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g13

Although bot edits don't count for preventing G13, the program to warn of forthcoming g13s doesn't seem to recognize that, so some of your g13s, tho technically valid might be savable if either the author had seen the notice, or those who check Category:AfC G13 eligible soon submissions had seen theml. We needtoget this fixed first, I think. I rescued a few that might need further checking. DGG ( talk ) 05:16, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@DGG: Agreed, all of the G13 reporting/handling should exclude bot edits in issuing notifications and determining what is eligible (consistent with the criterion). Also would support a prohibition on bot edits of G13-eligible pages. UnitedStatesian (talk) 05:56, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
so, in the meantime, unti ll we get it fixed, could you please not nominate them till they have a chance toget on the lists? I'm still going to check each one that look even possible if I can, but it makes it much harder for me, -- I don't like to ask it as a favor I have a shoulder injury that will make it very difficult to type for trhe next month at least. DGG ( talk ) 17:02, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DGG: happy to pause (and here's hoping you feel better soon), but is anyone actually working on a fix? Or is this one of the "nevergreen" improvement initiatives? UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:55, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DGG: having heard nothing (and skeptical any improvements are coming), I am going to resume tagging the bot-edited drafts; it is the only way to stay ahead of a massive dump of drafts into the daily file. (User:Monkbot just dumped a large number into today's stale draft report, for instance). UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:19, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Improvements at Wikipedia do not come quickly; My normal expectation and experience for significant changes is several years. Many things I started 10 or 12 years ago are still in progress. some of them have been accomplished; some never will be. But as you say the problem is what to do in the meantime. There's always a workaround. I am not sure how you identify the ones that you list. Tell me and I'll think of something. DGG ( talk ) 22:31, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DGG: I just look at User contributions for each bot, filtered to just the draftspace and checking "Only show edits that are latest revisions". Hovering over each draft's history link shows whether the prior human revision was outside G13's six-month window. Note that many of the drafts are not AfC drafts, meaning that subset would not get any user notification prior to my notifying them of the G13 tagging in any event. UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:25, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
had not thought of that,but which bots do you check? DGG ( talk ) 02:53, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DGG: User:AnomieBOT, User:Bitbotje, User:Citation bot (currently blocked), User:CommonsDelinker, User:FrescoBot, User:JCW-CleanerBot, User:JJMC89 bot III, User:Monkbot, User:PrimeBOT, User:ProcBot, User:RussBot, User:SDZeroBot, User:SporkBot and User:TheSandBot are the main ones. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:51, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Aya and the Witch

Hey, is it really necessary to deactivate Categories with colons, like you did here? I know Drafts should not be in main space categories, but this particular draft was already force excluded by using the {{Draft categories}} template. BOVINEBOY2008 23:19, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And now I see I had mistyped the template... my bad! But my question still stands, although more hypothetical. BOVINEBOY2008 23:23, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Bovineboy2008: thanks for the question; the cats should be commented out to avoid polluting the article categories with draft or sandbox pages. If the {{Draft categories}} template is applied correctly ( :) ), commenting is not necessary; otherwise, colons it is! UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:29, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ThanksThis is not in my usual approach so I'll see what can be done there . DGG ( talk ) 07:00, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American football teams disestablished in 1988

I have added a few pages which qualify for the category. Can you please from the speedy deletion tag? Thank you. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 17:18, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@KingSkyLord: of course, done. And thanks! UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:25, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cyrillic text

Hi US. In your RfD nomination for Сitadel of Baturyn Fortress you say "The redirect's initial character is the Cyrillic "С", not am English C". How did you tell? I'm interested because these mixed text redirects come up every now and again but I can't tell the difference by looking (using Safari on a MacBook). Regards, Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:39, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Shhhnotsoloud: thanks for the question. I used Special:All pages with prefix and pasted the Cyrillic С into the box (which of course only gives ones where that character is the initial one; I think the standard "Title contains" search would also work (and show the character's use anywhere in the title) if you paste in the desired character. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:22, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see, thanks. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 06:59, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hayley Griffiths deleted article

Thank you for your last two comments on my page. I realise that I have not updated the article as I have not had time in the last 6 months and have let it lapse. I may create a new draft with more reliable sources in future.Pmsouc (talk) 19:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of The Standard Life Assurance Company in China (1847-1920; 1998-2017)

A tag has been placed on The Standard Life Assurance Company in China (1847-1920; 1998-2017) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. DannyS712 (talk) 13:06, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion contested: Draft:List of

Hello UnitedStatesian, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Draft:List of, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Kept at MfD. Thank you. Mdaniels5757 (talk) 21:25, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Locomotives Nez cassés

Hi I just wanted to say that the article was virtually ready for publication just I am not extended confirmed so I cannot publish. Peter Kelford (talk) 20:15, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Peter Kelford: if you use the link on your talkpage to request undeletion, I will review it for publication for you once it is undeleted. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:51, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@UnitedStatesian: I have now apparently successfully undeleted the page, where can I find it? Peter Kelford (talk) 06:18, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Peter Kelford: You have requested the undeletion; allow a few hours for an admin. to process your undeletion request, and then it will be right back where you expect it to be. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 06:24, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks. Peter Kelford (talk) 06:34, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Majid Samii

Hi.I think what these two id 89.165.92.197 and 188.159.243.245 are doing in this article Majid Samii is vandalism. They are removing sourced materials and are adding incorrect and without source materials.They have deleted this Category:German people of Iranian Azerbaijani descent too.I want to keep this article from vanalism.Regards--Namaka (talk) 16:00, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know what these do?

You edited a redirect on my watch list, and I noticed that you are a "template editor". Please could you help me to understand some templates that an IP editor put on another page on my watchlist.[1]
{{#related:Ajey Nagar}}
{{#related:Bhuvan Bam}}
{{#related:Ashish Chanchlani}}

What do they do?-- Toddy1 (talk) 18:33, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Toddy1:: thanks for the question, but you have stumped me: I am not familiar with that code, and it doesn't seem to be doing anything. Maybe ask the helpdesk? (or you can safely remove that addition). UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:20, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I will remove it.-- Toddy1 (talk) 21:02, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Copy/paste

If something is marked as a potential copy/paste, it must be tagged as either a WP:G12 speedy deletion or cleanup up and marked for {{revdel}}. Please do not simply turn it into a redirect, as you did here. Primefac (talk) 20:51, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Primefac: thanks for letting me know; apologies, I simply missed the {{copyvio}} tag (don't normally expect to find those when processing drafts that are eligible for G13: six months is a long time for a page to sit with that tag on it). UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:44, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fair point, didn't even notice the timing! Primefac (talk) 14:39, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AFC: Submit References by wiki

I agree to delete references 1 and 3. Reference 2 is suitable for all citations used. It is a Calculus book. Thanks U:Kkmal.Hamouda Kkmal.Hamouda (talk) 06:22, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit summary when moving Index of Vatican City–related articles to Index of Vatican City-related articles on 7 March 2020 seems to indicate confusion between an en-dash and a hyphen. You moved it away from using an en-dash, although your edit summary said you thought it should use an en-dash. —BarrelProof (talk) 04:12, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@BarrelProof: thanks for letting me know. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:13, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

the reverse logic of speedies

can be quite off-putting - my reason for comment at gderrin - however your explanation might have removed my comment and seem reasonable (as it is), it still can be confusing... JarrahTree 04:38, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Henrik Fisker (disambiguation) has been accepted

Henrik Fisker (disambiguation), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Disambig-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

Eagleash (talk) 22:17, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Near Duplicate Drafts

Hi UnitedStatesian. Unless I'm missing something, G6 does not apply to "mistitled near-duplicate" drafts (e.g. Draft:Dillanm Draft). It's generally appropriate to redirect "duplicates" to another draft (see WP:ATD-R), but if you want to nominate these for deletion, you'll need to use MfD. -FASTILY 23:30, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also letting you know that I have declined your G6 nominations with the rationale "created with incorrect title, then moved". Many of these are relatively old redirects, and should first be discussed at WP:RfD before being deleted. Thanks, FASTILY 23:38, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Fastily: thanks, I'll take both sets of pages to the respective fD forums (and will ping you). Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:42, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your edit

Thank you very much for merging my "Jewish Gulag detainees" page into the larger "Gulag detainees" page.

LadyAelfwynn92

LadyAelfwynn92 (talk) 19:53, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Suday Yadav

May I know why this page was not publish but written by on the basis of reliable source

any challenge for that ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.174.182.120 (talk) 19:43, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:2019 Municipal elections of Westfield, Massachusetts and Draft:List of Mayors of Westfield, Massachusetts

You have my full permission to delete both drafts. I originally created them to make the political information of Westfield more known, even though the city is not considered newsworthy or notable due to the population and coverage. BacktoSchoolForever0700 (talk) 22:27, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:WikiProject Amusement Parks Project Members has been nominated for renaming

Category:WikiProject Amusement Parks Project Members has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 10:33, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:MoSys

Hello, UnitedStatesian. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "MoSys".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! WikiMacaroonsCinnamon? 14:02, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Draft:Erbprinzliches Palais Dessau

Hello, UnitedStatesian. Unfortunately, this is what there is on the heretidary palace in Dessau. The only sources available on the moment is the history on the Stadtpark, which has been included as reference, and postcards. I have contacted the local archive and historians, and they agree

Three Suggested Edits for Your Consideration

Hello, UnitedStatesian.

I see that you've made business-status updates to the Vertiv's page in the past. Thank you for those and the thousands of edits you have made to keep pages current. I'm writing to suggest three potential additional edits to make the Vertiv page more current and complete. In full disclosure, I am a member of the the company's PR team, working in their external agency.

Here are the suggested edits:

In the infobox -- Company Type: Public New information to add -- Traded as: VRT, NYSE Addition to Key People -- David Cote, Chairman (source: https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/person/14003396)

I'm brand new to Wikipedia, much the opposite of yourself. If there is another way I should be going about this, please let me know.

Thank you, CommuniContent (talk) 18:50, 29 July 2020 (UTC)CommuniContent[reply]

@CommuniContent: Thanks you so much for requesting these; I have made them. IF you see any other changes needed to public company articles, please let me know. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:23, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for making this updates, and will do re: other public company pages. Also, should the company type for Vertiv be listed as public since it trades on the NYSE? Thanks.

CommuniContent (talk) 19:24, 5 August 2020 (UTC)CommuniContent[reply]

@CommuniContent: thanks, yes, I corrected the type too just now. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:00, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Improvements to the Draft:Montserrat (typeface)

Hello, recently I improved the draft of the article "Montserrat (typeface)" and also i added a infobox typeface. Would you like to transfer to the Encyclopedia article? Thanks and regards, --Rodney Araujo (talk) 00:56, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Rodney Araujo: Thanks for you diligent work, and I saw you resubmitted, but my guess is that the article will again be rejected, because it has no sources. Please try to find sources in order to make it more likely that it is accepted (you can continue to improve while the review is pending). Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:03, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Astroviridae/Astrovirus

Hi, UnitedStatesian! I've removed your G6 tag from Astroviridae, as I don't believe we can or should have two articles on the same family of viruses – our existing page is at Astrovirus. It seems that a lot of the draft is anyway taken from there. I suggest selective merging of material from the draft as the best way forward. Thanks for all your good work, regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:54, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Now that I look at the history of Astrovirus, it seems that the editor of the draft may already have done this. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:03, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there

I hope you can asssit me, I would greatly appreciate your help. I began a draft over a year ago and it's been deleted due to lack of editing. It has a lot of work still but I've done so much already I cried when I saw it was gone! It's my article Mike Roche(Musicin) the founding member of TSOL (Punk Band), and tattoo artist. I really appreciate however you can help me get this work back. I want to continue editing it's just been a hell of a year. Thank you TVaughanSoCalTVaughanSoCal (talk) 23:44, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@TVaughanSoCal: I see the draft has been restored, at Draft:Mike Roche (musician). Let me know if you need anything further. UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:34, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gil Grant

I've restored this article to mainspace. Per WP:DRAFTIFY, moving articles to draftspace is not to be used as a backdoor to deletion, and is therefore not appropriate for articles that have a significant history, are more than a few months old, or where the original author is no longer active. In this case the author of the article has not edited since 2011. If you feel it needs to be deleted it should go through AfD. – bradv🍁 02:06, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, @Bradv: sorry about that. I see another editor has already applied the PROD tag to the article. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:21, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. PROD is fine too. Cheers. – bradv🍁 02:23, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Camden College (fictional college) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Camden College (fictional college) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Camden College (fictional college) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Nathan2055talk - contribs 20:34, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notifying you since you endorsed the now removed PROD. Nathan2055talk - contribs 20:34, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks as always @Nathan2055: Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:35, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
👍 Nathan2055talk - contribs 20:41, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hawaii categories

Hi, I saw that you recently created Category:Independent Hawaii. I am wondering if there isn't significant overlap between the following categories: Category:Independent Hawaii, Category:Pre-annexation Hawaii, and Category:Pre-statehood history of Hawaii. My sense is that if we have the other two, Category:Pre-annexation Hawaii can go. What do you think? Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:14, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Good Olfactory: thanks for the question, and yes, certainly there is overlap. I personally don't like the two "pre-" categories because basically they are categorizations based on what something is not: even an article like Ancient Hawaii should technically go into both of those categories. I also tend not to like categories that do not have an article that defines them, and of course there is neither Pre-annexation Hawaii nor Pre-statehood history of Hawaii. But I think yours is a question better raised at Wikipedia:WikiProject Hawaii. UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:16, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PROD removal

Hey, can you explain what Special:Diff/972769987 was all about? Nathan2055talk - contribs 21:16, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Nathan2055: thanks for the question. There is an active discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Resolve the inconsistency_between_WP:DRAFTIFY_and_WP:ATD; based on how that resolves, consensus may be that the draftification or Gil Grant should not have been reversed. So it makes no sense to delete the article while that Village Pump discussion is ongoing. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:22, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Two Quick Questions

Hi UStatesian

I usually create articles direct and not draft first i see you disable category of this page is it possible for you to review this article? or i can delete draft and publish the article direct? they are passing notability. Draft:Nick Wrenn and Draft:Misbah Mumtaz. Memon KutianaWala (talk) 11:40, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Memon KutianaWala: thanks for the question. Both drafts have been submitted for review; a member of the Articles for Creation team will review each and respond accordingly. Such reviews usually take several weeks; thanks in advance for your patience. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:13, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A thought on drafts from deleted articles.

Even if the draft is not in draft as a result of the AfD, I feel that it is important to note somewhere on the draft that the topic was previously deleted, and that the deficiencies leading to this result can be found in the discussion. BD2412 T 02:25, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

True @BD2412: But I just don't think the {{AfD-userfied}} template is the right one to use in those few cases. 03:54, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'll see if I can't think through some alternatives. Cheers! BD2412 T 04:25, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Art of Hosting

Hi

Just to say thanks for pointing out the rule about not putting in categories into Draft: Art of Hosting -- and apologies, I don't recall reverting your correction, it must have been an oversight or accident on my part Simon Grant (talk) 20:23, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Asimong: you're very welcome. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:15, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I Can See Your Voice

Hey UnitedStatesian, thank you for helping me with an effort to restore the "International versions" category for ICSYV. Kindly please go to this discussion. Makoy Canlas (talk) 02:42, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Disruptive speedy

Are you trying to annoy me? Because if so you have succeeded? Djm-leighpark (talk) 17:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Djm-leighpark: if you are referring to Draft:Liquidsoap, I would note that the draft had been abandoned for six months and therefore was eligible for speedy deletion under criterion G13. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:10, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've not abandoned it! On top of that there's a bot that can sort that out! I have into interrupt my dinner to avoid wasting an admins time to get aG13 refund if it had been deleted. And I'm now in a foul mood. I suppose you are happy with that. THANKS! Djm-leighpark (talk) 17:15, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

G13 Deletions

Why aren't you notifying article creators when you nominate their entries for deletion? FloridaArmy (talk) 07:20, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@FloridaArmy: Creator notification is strictly optional on a case-by-case basis. My question for you is why you let so, so, SO many drafts reach the 6 month abandonment point, only to "rescue" them with minor edits or at WP:REFUND, only after other editors have had to tag them, or in the WP:REFUND case, administrators have also had to get involved twice. This makes no sense especially since it is so easy to keep track of a very large set of drafts and ensure they are human-edited every 5.9 (or less) months. Two ways: 1) add them to your watchlist: if you then click on "Edit your watchlist", the list that comes up has a history link next to every watched draft, and hovering over it (not even having to click) shows date of the latest edit. Or, 2) if you don't want to receive watchlist edit notices for so many pages, create a user subpage that lists all the drafts you want to "protect"; if you enclose each one in the {{articlelinks}} template, the list will display the same history link that you can hover over to see the history, just like in method 1). Looking forward to your response. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:12, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I create draftson notable subjects I come across that I don't immediately have time to flesh out. I was pu ished for creating short articles on such subjects so I am relegated to using draftspace. I would appreciate a notice and I dont2 think drafts on notable subjects should be speedied. Good judgment and common sense should apply. FloridaArmy (talk) 13:21, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@FloridaArmy: then I would reiterate my suggestion: if you don't think they should be speedied, the solution is to make sure you make your minor edits every 5.9 months rather than every 6.1 months. If you do that, I can GUARANTEE they will never, ever, be G13 speedied again. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:25, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I would appreciate the basic courtesy and decencyof a notification when one of my drafts is put up for speedy deletion and reiterate my assertion thatcommon sense and good judgment should apply on what subjects are deleted. FloridaArmy (talk) 13:28, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can you point me to the discussion where it was determined notifications to creators are no longer needed for G13 nominations? FloridaArmy (talk) 13:29, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CSD says "There is strong consensus that the creators and major contributors of pages and media files should be warned. . ." It does not not say "must", and of course WP:IAR applies, particularly for a creator whom the community has found to have disrupted the AfC process. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:34, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Eligibility

On the note of G13 nominations, why did you nominate this draft for G13? stwalkerster (talk) 21:28, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, @Stwalkerster:, I meant to remove the categories per WP:DRAFTNOCAT; clicked the wrong link by mistake. Thanks for pointing this out. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:31, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, I just saw it pop up in the abusefilter logs for filter 29, and was a little confused! :D stwalkerster (talk) 21:33, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Mauren Brodbeck

Dear @UnitedStatesian:, I checked this draft created by User:Epicure2020 and corrected small things. The notability seems all right and the sources are good. would you mind to review or publish it? All the best, --Philippe49730 (talk) 15:49, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Philippe49730: lookse good, thanks for your work. I published it. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:03, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help for removing Peacock|date=August 2020 from article Chemancheri Kunhiraman Nair

I want to submit Chemancheri Kunhiraman Nair for further review to remove the <--Peacock|date=August 2020-->, I have changed the promotional words those i used in it. please let me know, Whether I can delete that manually or is there any further page revisions will come.

Takuma Kajiwara

Regarding https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_people_photographed_by_Takuma_Kajiwara&type=revision&diff=866468218&oldid=865169981, I don't see anything that forbids using "Notable" in the titles of articles. Can you be specific about what is said, and where it is said? Thanks. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 04:45, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @BeenAroundAWhile: thanks for the question. Of course in Wikipedia almost nothing is "forbidden", but the relevant text is from WP:LISTNAME: "Best practice is to avoid words like notable, famous, noted, prominent, etc. in the title of a list article." And in fact in all of English Wikipedia there is only one "List of notable . . ." article. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:52, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stale Drafts Confusion

Can I poke your brain since you have lots of knowledge in this topic? I was looking through the Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/Stale drafts last night and reported a fair number of drafts that showed no promise of going further and were long stale (5+ years) with creators long absent (3+ years). I thought, from this that they were eligible for G13 (6 mo+ stale draft delete). Most were accepted with my report of G13, but not all were and were rejected for reasons I don't fully understand yet and would like to understand. Today a user commented on my userpage asking essentially "what the heck are you doing?" At first I thought I understood what she was complaining about, but now, I have no clue. Since you've been doing the Stale Drafts project for a good while, would you mind clarifying to me in a reply here what specifically she has an issue about, and why some of the pages I reported failed deletion under G13 so that I can contribute to the project better and not tick her (or others) off? I'll give you a few examples of drafts that G13 was rejected and the reasons that were stated:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Charliedossett/Cooler%27s_armored_squadron&oldid=878222077 "non AFC userpages do not qualify for G13"
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Charnocat/Michigan_HERC&oldid=485997474 "G13 is not for userpages"

Both had the WIP (Userspace draft|source=ArticleWizard) template on the pages before I reported them, but after I reported as a G13, that disappeared, and after the delete template was removed from the rejection, the WIP was not returned. Is that part of the issue? What should I be looking for to determine a G13 for this project to avoid such rejections? Both also have the category of "Stale userspace drafts" and hidden cat "Userspace drafts from (date)" on the page, so how are they not a stale draft, eligible for G13? Thank you for your time, Zinnober9 (talk) 06:13, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Zinnober9: thanks for the questions, and your contributions. In order to be eligible for G13 deletion, a page in the userspace MUST have the {{afc draft}} template on it. If it does not have that template, the user can keep the draft around forever. Please don't tag userspace pages without that template for G13 deletion. UnitedStatesian (talk) 12:57, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Negativism

Please see my (utterly frustrated!) comments on your recent additions to my talk page, about rejecting my honest well-meant hard effort. You - and your negativist teammates - have totally convinced me of never again trying to create a new article. As I understand "collective effort", some people make an initial effort and then others contribute to it until something "good enough" is realised. In this case I made the effort and there only came up a club of destructionist hawks who applied all possible arguments to refute my work, instead of improving on it. Bah bah bah - NEVER AGAIN! Yer can be proud! Jan olieslagers (talk) 17:24, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

G6 and Drafts

Hi UnitedStatesian, I've started a discussion on G6 and "duplicate" drafts. As I have previously observed you nominating such pages for deletion, you are cordially invited to participate. Regards, FASTILY 05:22, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Fastily: thanks for the ping, and for your continued wide-ranging diligent work. Interested to see the consensus that develops, and will of course follow it. UnitedStatesian (talk) 05:12, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Hi, UnitedStatesian,

You really undertook a marathon session of tagging old drafts. Thank you for all of your time and edits! Liz Read! Talk! 05:05, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: you are very welcome, and I appreciate the feedback. The only downside is it has taken me away from my C1 duties in the category space, but I sleep well knowing those are in your ever-diligent hands! UnitedStatesian (talk) 05:08, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I do wonder where you find all of these old drafts that aren't on the stale draft list. Do you patrol through old draft categories? Liz Read! Talk! 04:00, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz: Yes and no; there are two ways: One, the stale draft list has a lag: drafts in Category:AfC G13 eligible soon submissions hit the 6-month limit as much as 33 hours before the stale drafts report is run (and fortunately the cat is in chrono order). And Two, I look at the User contributions of the bots User:Citation bot, User:CommonsDelinker, User:Monkbot, User:PrimeBOT, User:SporkBot, and User:TheSandBot. If one of those bot's edits is the latest contribution to a draft, it is worth looking at the history to see whether the earlier, latest human contribution is longer ago than six months, making the draft G13-eligible. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:12, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft articles

I'm informing you that the draft articles I started of Draft:Queen of the Air, Draft:Expatriate (film) and Draft:Yasuke (film). The former has been long dormant and the latter two are sadly two Chadwick Boseman projects we won't get to see. Rusted AutoParts 03:20, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Rusted AutoParts: thanks for letting me know. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:12, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Good morning,

Thank you for the guidelines and advice regarding category references whilst still in draft phase. I have know corrected as per your advice.

Best, --HughesTrevor (talk) 05:17, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help with article

I am reaching out to you as a member of the Wikipedia:Wikiproject Finance and Investment. A related draft article located here Draft:Bimal_V_Patel may be of interest to you. While I’m a former work colleague of the subject of the article, I’ve done extensive research into Wikipedia policy in order to abide by Wikipedia policies. I’d appreciate any help or thoughts you can provide. Capecodcontributor (talk) 15:19, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Draft:Lockdoor Framework (software)

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The page Draft:Lockdoor Framework (software) has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appeared to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appeared to be a direct copy from https://github.com/SofianeHamlaoui/Lockdoor-Framework. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition has been be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, you may contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you may open a discussion at Wikipedia:Deletion Review — Diannaa (talk) 12:33, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Teen World

Hi UnitedStatesian! I need your help, I did Miss Teen World contributions taking into account press releases and publications made about the contest since 2001, however Ayaat1998 reverted edits, I have read an "alert" and warning, preventing me from continuing with an impartial job that took me a whole day. I belive my contributios are correct, please, help me to cancel this warning and let me to write at Miss Teen World. The official contest emerged in Ecuador in 2001 by its founder Cesar Montece owner of the Queen of Ecuador company who died in 2009 https://www.eluniverso.com/2010/04/01/1/1379/murio-cesar-montece-empresario-belleza.html and for this reason was held as a new pageant under the same name in the US from 2009 to 2012. Due to a legal problem with Miss World he was forced to change the name of the pageant in the US, is called currently Miss Teen Continents. Montece's sister, president of the Queen of Ecuador Inc. company sold all rights to the pageant to Rodrigo Moreira, director of Miss Teen Ecuador in 2012. Montece had more than 20 beauty pageants in Ecuador. The website of that event was http://web.archive.org/web/20031229021751/http://www.queenofecuador.com.ec/ and on the web there are hundreds of referrals that can give you a more clear idea about it. Ayaat1998 is a user with bad intentions, who for some obscure reason asks to delete my user who has contributed neutrally to Wikipedia for many years.-->Jeniferliberman (talk) 19:08, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"That Man in the White House" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect That Man in the White House. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 16#That Man in the White House until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:29, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please see also FYI: Wikipedia:Help desk#Edit summary box. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:47, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Harder They Fall (upcoming film)

Hi. I reverted this move, there is a source within the article that notes the film is indeed filming. Not a violation of NFF so I put it back. Rusted AutoParts 05:23, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Theresa Greenfield

I've raised the issue of the draft and the confusing AfC situation at WP:AN and have mentioned your involvement, seeking clarity on what should happen next. The thread is WP:AN#Theresa Greenfield. Thanks. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:31, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Ivanvector:, really appreciate it. I think we both got a little more than we thought we would when first wading into this. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:07, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Colour fastness

Respected Sir, Greetings of the day! I tried to improve the subject article, kindly see and comment. Best regardsRAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 10:30, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Category:Films about Austrian royalty

Hello UnitedStatesian. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Category:Films about Austrian royalty, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Category pages (along with talk pages and user pages) are only eligible for G7 if the author requests it explicitly, not implicitly by blanking. Thank you. Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:05, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I need help with drafts and articles

I need help with these drafts:

I need with these articles:

I need help because I don't have the exact amount of knowledge in those stories, elements, characters and references related to these articles and drafts, and don't want to copy and paste eternally because it violates Wikipedia's rules. However, it fells like I alone in this one, so I really need help. Thank you for reading. F. E. Puricelli (talk) 17:18, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@F. E. Puricelli: Thank you for your contributions, and for the question; unfortunately those are subjects that are beyond my expertise, so I can't help. The good news is that we have Wikipedia:WikiProject Transformers. I would suggest that you pose this questions on that project's talk page. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:08, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:FurnitureOkay

Hello, UnitedStatesian. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "FurnitureOkay".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 15:48, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the tip

Thank you so much for guiding to disable the categories. I believe you have already done it. I have removed the second sub category and kept the main as you suggested. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Javed khan39 (talk • contribs) 19:22, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Moro, Papua New Guinea

Can you please review this new draft or simply put a submit tag on it. --94.73.37.114 (talk) 12:16, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Submitted. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:22, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page move request regarding Madonna and Child with Saints

I wanted to notify you that I have requested a technical move to reverse this move you made back in June. You can contest this move at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests#Uncontroversial technical requests Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests#Requests to revert undiscussed moves. —ShelfSkewed Talk 16:13, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ShelfSkewed: thanks for letting me know and sorry about that; I took care of the RM myself. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:19, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for taking care of that—and for creating the dab page. Looks good!—ShelfSkewed Talk 19:22, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The History Barnstar
I think you have done a good job in history articles so I am giving you this barnstar. Cupper52 (talk) 17:56, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Cupper52: thank you very much! Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:38, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Content moved from mainspace to draftspace

Hi, UnitedStatesian,

I just noticed these categories and since you are the one who created them, I thought I'd ask you about them since I'm not sure who was involved in proposing them. Do they represent some change? Will drafts placed in these categories be ineligible for G13 status? I think that might be a good idea, I'm just curious to know where the decision was made. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 00:27, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: thanks for the question. The cats came out of a VPP discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive_159#Resolve_the_inconsistency_between_WP:DRAFTIFY_and_WP:ATD It was User:BD2412 who cmae up with the idea and set up the structure; I have only set up a bunch of the sub cats. I don't think anyone contemplates changing G13, but these categories allow us to identify pages that were at least established by non-anon users, and thus have a little more promise than your average draft. Currently drafts are only being tagged manually, but the bot is being worked on and once it is running the structure should be useful. UnitedStatesian (talk) 12:53, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It is true that a draft moved from mainspace has to have been initiated by a registered account, which may signify better standing than an IP-initiated draft. However, the reason I wanted the categorization scheme was to identify drafts that were moved to draft pursuant to an AfD or CSD criteria, which should actually receive more scrutiny before being restored to mainspace to insure that the reasons for their being moved in the first place have been resolved. BD2412 T 15:13, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@BD2412: thanks for the explanation, very helpful. Do you know how far the development of the bot has progressed? UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:22, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) I appreciate the responses. I see thousands of old drafts that are now being placed in Category:Content moved from mainspace to draftspace categories and are exempt from the six month period of dormancy. Are there editors who will be reviewing them? I doubt most editors even know that these categories exist, BD2412.
I am all for rescuing promising drafts and turning them into articles. In fact, I feel that some AfC reviewers are too quick to reject drafts. But I'm not for creating another holding pen that can exist indefinitely. How about a 12 month limit after being moved from article space to draft space unless the draft is being worked on? I'm sure the SDZeroBot can configure a draft tag for this. Liz Read! Talk! 16:25, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
UnitedStatesian, the bot has progressed, it's because I saw stale drafts being removed from the User:SDZeroBot/G13 soon list to be put in these categories that led me to post this comment on your talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 16:28, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't request that drafts in these categories be exempt from G13, and they shouldn't be. The concern is merely that when they are submitted for review again, the reviewer should be aware that they have previously been moved from mainspace, and should ascertain why this happened, and whether the issues that precipitated this move have been resolved. Adding the category may reset the six-month clock, but ideally it should be added very shortly after draftification. BD2412 T 16:29, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That might have been your intent, BD2412. I think it's fine for G13 status be delayed until the drafts can be reviewed by an experienced reviewer. I just wasn't sure there was plan for how this would happen. And now that I know this is a very new change, my expectations have been adjusted. As you can see from SDZeroBot's actions, it's been quite active moving drafts over the past few days. Liz Read! Talk! 16:39, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My own view is that no changes to G13 are needed. These taggings by the bot do not reset the G13 clock, since G13 counts the time since the last human edit. Unfortunately the automatic processes to capture G13-eligible drafts does not have that bot/human subtlety, but I make it a practice to review bot-edited drafts to identify ones that are in fact G13 eligible. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:44, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think that is a good idea, because they do not show up in the automated categories that I and Liz and the few other interested people check to see if they have promise of rescue. At the moment, the situation seems to be in a state of chaos, and we swould do well not to change any process until wehave an agreed flow pattern and know that it's implemented. At this point my concern is over 3 types of drafts: ones that the reviewer had not noticed should be evaluated by WP:PROF, or that were not in fact unreferenced, or did have somewhere the necessary indication for notability; ones that were declined for reasons that no dradt should be declined for--lack of inline references for any other than a BLP, for example, or incorrect formatting-- or anything else that can be fixed in mainspace.; and drafts that were never submitted for review at all for some unknown reason, but might even be good enough to be quickly fixed, or even immediately accepted,
I don't think of things as "exempt for G13"--- G13 is not appropriate for drafts that can be rescued if anyone thinks they can be so handled. I think some process like G13 is indeed essential, and I've deleted probably thousands of them, , but no speedy criterion is meant to be handled automatically without human review. DGG ( talk ) 23:33, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Company articles with out of date infobox information has been nominated for deletion

Category:Company articles with out of date infobox information has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. MB 02:07, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Ruslan Khudoliy

Please accept this draft about this well known Ukrainian criminal. --37.29.240.93 (talk) 13:02, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ocosia spinosa has been accepted

Ocosia spinosa, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Stub-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. It is commonplace for new articles to start out as stubs and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider leaving us some feedback.

Thanks again, and happy editing!

DGG ( talk ) 16:25, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Promising stale drafts

Hello, UnitedStatesian,

Stale drafts that are marked as "promising drafts", we are giving an extra 6 months of life. So, if you see one, if you could make a minor edit or just skip tagging them if marked as promising, that would be great. This is not official policy, we've just been asked to be a bit more forgiving for the 200 or so drafts that have been marked as "promising". Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 00:33, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: of course, will do. Thanks, UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:24, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
another way of postponing them is to add a comment. I have been trying that lately instead of my earlier method of making a copyedit. Liz, I don't think just passing them over works, because some other reviewer who does no understand might try to delete them. DGG ( talk ) 23:24, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well, for good or ill, DGG, I seem to be handling the bulk of these aging drafts right now but I'm not sure how much longer I will continue. SDZeroBot lists between 200-350 aging drafts each day and that's a heavier load than I expected when I started checking G13s out in mid-September.
As for "promising drafts", there are fewer of them than I initially thought, there were just a lot that Atlantic306 tagged in April 2020. I think 12 months without any meaningful editing should be enough but that's just my point of view. I hope some AfC folks are checking Category:Promising draft articles to see any which might be ready for primetime. Liz Read! Talk! 23:48, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I feel tthe same way.
My idea of the way to deal with the load is to figure out what to ignore & divide the rest. 20% are empty/non-English/personal home pages/nonsense Then don't bother with checking scientists, because I will. I cannot acurately do popular culture and sports--I hope you or somebody can. There are a good deal of misc organizations/geography/schools that anyone can do, and it would help to divide it. There are others than the two of us--we need to form a group of some sort ot discuss this
There's a safety factor in redundant checks, but we we may have to give that up. . .
But the real problem is going to come back 5 /6 months for now, when all the ones we've deferred are goingto come back again. There's something to be said for the practice of when it doubt and its non-promotional, and there's at least one good source, acceptor and let the NPP side deal with them. And when it is promotional, stubbify first. DGG ( talk ) 04:31, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As for 12 months, they do not improve by themselves. They improve when someone works on them. If the would add value to the encyclopedia , and can be dealt with easily, it is not to anyone's benefit to let them go. There are also the ones that are simply never submitted for review, and should have been. But I agree, there are many which might be ok if someone cared, but are not worth bothering about otherwise. I usually am not marking these even at 6 months, but if I am, I will stop at 12.
It's true the rescuable drafts are few. I usually estimate about 5%. That's 10 per page of 200. , or 5 a day of the drafts. 5 a day is 1800 a year. I've been here 14 years. that's a potential 25,000 articles that could be saved. At the scale of WP, even a small effort give large returns. DGG ( talk ) 17:48, 27 October 2020 (UTC) �[reply]

Redirect

Because i'm in the middle of a round robin move which is now messed up. You need to give at least 20 minutes pause, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 21:26, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ready For Publish

Hi dear @UnitedStatesian , i wish you are fine. may you please check out this Draft and let me know if everything is fine to publish it . best regards Lookiw (talk) 15:04, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Lookiw: thanks for your contributions and for reaching out. I submitted it; it is now in the queue to be reviewed. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:27, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question about next steps to recovering draft and publishing

Hey there,

My draft Draft:Cecil Williams Civil Rights Museum has been deleted due to a lack of editing in the past six months. I made the mistake of thinking I had submitted the draft for approval. I'm just now realizing I didn't actually submit it for approval; I'm not sure where I went wrong. Is there any chance you can help me undelete this draft, please? And is it possible to expedite the approval process, or do you have any helpful next steps to getting it approved ASAP?

Thanks so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usernamekara (talk • contribs) 23:17, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again @UnitedStatesian ,

I'm guessing you recovered the draft--thank you very much! I submitted it for review. Can you tell me how long it'll probably take to get approved or feedback on it?

Thanks again! - Usernamekara (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:02, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Usernamekara: thanks for the question, and your contributions; the article has been created, Cecil Williams South Carolina Civil Rights Museum. Let me know if you need anything else. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:13, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Joan Chamorro

Hi. I created a draft article for Joan Chamorro at some point (I'm not sure of the date), which I think you nominated for speedy deletion. That was fine because I had stopped working on it. This is the notice I received by email:

Wikipedia page Draft:Joan Chamorro has been changed by UnitedStatesian Jul 25, 2020, 4:31 PM Dear Dratman, The Wikipedia page Draft:Joan Chamorro has been changed on 25 July 2020 by UnitedStatesian, see Draft:Joan_Chamorro for the current revision.

But then after you nominated my draft for speedy deletion in July, a new draft article was created in August by vision dot. That article has now become available in the usual way on Wikipedia.

Is the new article by vision dot somehow connected with my draft that you deleted -- or are they unrelated? For your role in making a page happen for Joan Chamorro -- thank you, I guess. But I am a bit confused. Dratman (talk) 00:15, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Dratman: thanks for the question. The page was completely recreated by vision dot, so has none of the content from your draft. But now that it exists, feel free to make any additional changes you would like. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:16, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:United States federal judges appointed by Joe Biden

Hello, UnitedStatesian,

First, I greatly appreciate all of the work you've been doing here, for years. You're invaluable. But I look at your contributions and I just can't understand how sometimes you post a notice about CSD C1 deletions on the page creator's talk page and sometimes you don't. Some folks, like Hugo999, have asked me not to post CSD C1 notifications on their talk pages so I skip their notifications and others, like BHG, have created so many thousands of categories that they don't need to be notified any time one of them comes up as empty.

But ordinary editors do need to know. I'd say that out of 15-20 empty categories I tag, the category creator adds pages to the category so that it is no longer empty. So, we remove the tag and the category isn't deleted. You're using Twinkle so there is no reason that ALL page creators aren't being notified about CSD C1 tagging unless, for some unknown reason, you are unchecking the box to notify them. Please don't do this.

Page creators have the right to know that their pages are heading toward a deletion so they can address any problems that exist or just know why their pages have disappeared. Only admins can view deleted contributions so without a notification, an editor may not even know that their page has been deleted unless they get a notification.

I know I've posted about this issue before but I was looking into this particular category and noticed that the page creator didn't receive a notice and you skipped a few others tonight. Sorry for being a broken record but you do need to be consistent about this if you are going to continue tagging any pages for deletion. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 03:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: thanks for the note; as always this is a legacy of my getting mixed up in trying to avoid notifying users, such as Hugo999 and BHG, who do not want repeated notifications, or fillng a user talk page with nearly identical notifications. I will strive to be more attentive going forward. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:54, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What the deuce are you doing?

Geschichte (talk) 16:52, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy nomination of Category:2021 in Republic of Ireland association football leagues

Hi UnitedStatesian re Category:2021_in_Republic_of_Ireland_association_football_leagues

This category should not be speedy deleted as being unpopulated, because... (I have created in Draft:2021 League of Ireland First Division - just waiting on imminent announcement from Leauge of Ireland on start date to publish it, The other articles for Premier Division, FAI Cup, League cup will also be created in the next few days, so this category would be needed, thank you) JW 1961 Talk 11:25, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Joseywales1961: thanks for letting me know. I see the article has been created, so I have removed the deletion tag. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
UnitedStatesian, Thank you, have a great day JW 1961 Talk 18:10, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Removing Promising Draft Tags

Hi, these tags are not supposed to be removed without a discussion with the editor who placed them. The reason that they haven't been edited lately has no bearing on the potential of the subjects which I can justify in every case. Some of them have recently been upheld by admin. Deleting them is unproductive as they use more space in delete space, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 01:11, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Atlantic306: can you point me to the policy/guideline that states that the tags not supposed to be removed without discussion? The only one I see is that "{{promising draft}} cannot be used to indefinitely postpone G13 deletion." UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:25, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Articles for creation#Old drafts. These articles I've tagged as promising are not all hopeless cases as recently at least six or seven that have been ignored for a couple of years have been improved by other editors and published. Also the category of promising drafts allows editors to find drafts for improvement, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 01:34, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think the only reasonable way to remove it is MfD, or by waiting at least a year or two or three, and then notifying the person who placed the tag and any other editors who are still around, in enough time for them to challenge it, not just the same day it gets listed at speedy. This is Wikipedia , and it can take years for articles to get improved.~ Remember something I havent't heard much about lately WP:NODEADLINE, DGG ( talk )

Draft: 100 Welsh Women

This was only restored via WP: REFUND about 4 hours ago. Could you please give editors a reasonable opportunity to make edits before nominating for speedy deletion inappropriately. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 15:30, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Cardiffbear88: apologies, but there was nothing in the edit history to indicate it had gone through the WP: REFUND process. The refunding administrator is supposed to make a minor edit to reset the G13 clock, and neglected to do so in this case. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:35, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

request re Historic Hotels of America articles

Hi, could you please restore Draft:NOPSI New Orleans (to draft space, I suppose) which you tagged for speedy deletion and then was deleted before I saw your notice. Over the last couple days you've notified me of 6 months period expiring for several hotel articles that I've created, and I have removed the speedy deletion tag and expanded some of these just now. These are all Historic Hotels of America hotels, which, by the way, I believe are all Wikipedia-notable, but about which there was disagreement about sourcing 6 months ago in an unpleasant wp:ANI proceeding. A larger number of these were moved to Draft space all at once. Could you please cooperate with me in addressing these all at once, perhaps, without tagging them for speedy deletion, or in or doing something different than notifying me one by one, with chance that the article is deleted before I get to it? And specifically about the one, could you please restore that now. sincerely, --Doncram (talk) 02:02, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Doncram: I am not an administrator so unfortunately cannot restore the deleted draft. You need to go to WP:REFUND to request the restoration. UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:56, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Doncram: I would also suggest making edits to all of the drafts you want kept, since otherwise they will remain eligible for G13 speedy deletion and are likely to be deleted. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Doncram, (and anyone else) I will restore any G13 deleted draft that has any promise. Just ask me on my talk page. I do a few dozen a day I spot myself, but I know I miss some. It would be even better if , after I restored it, you improved it. That part involves just too many for me to try to do all of them. DGG ( talk ) 19:31, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Yued and Yued

Apparently you didn't understand my tagging. The draft was considerably longer than the article. I had tagged the draft to be merged into the article, meaning that the article should be expanded. You redirected the draft to the article and removed the tags. Redirecting the draft to the article is appropriate if the draft is the same as the article or contains less information than the article. It contained more information, and I was requesting that the article be expanded. I have restored the more detailed version of the draft. You apparently made a mistake because you didn't understand what was being requested. Please don't make that mistake again. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:36, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

G13 nominations

Hi UnitedStatesian -- Do you think you could do a quick notability check before nominating abandoned drafts for G13, please? I've come across two recently that were clearly hypernotable and had some sourcing present. There has to be something better to do with these than simply delete them along with all the junk. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 01:12, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Espresso Addict: thanks for the note; I assume you are talking about Draft:Max Polyakov (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), Draft:Kumari Naaz (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), and Khaled Al-Karaki (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). I note they all had been moved from the mainspace by a different editor and had very little work done since their move. Thanks in advance, UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:27, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
My two concerns were Khaled Al-Karaki and John Simons (chemist), which as I said are hypernotable and partly sourced; the others are much more borderline. I don't see the point of having two people look at G13s if one/both are just going to look at the date of last human edit and not the text; they might as well expire automatically. Espresso Addict (talk) 20:22, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Rocca di Manerba del Garda

Thank you very much for your suggestion. I would like to ask you if you can give us other suggestions for our article in order to make it approved. Thank you.Milan20MA (talk) 08:10, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:User krl-3

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Basilica of the Visitation of the Blessed Virgin Mary

Hi - I don't want to be boring about this, but there are in fact a number other Basilicas of the Visitation of the Blessed Virgin Mary, including at Trakai, Olomouc, Święta Lipka, and Tuchow. So if I or anyone else wishes (and in fact I do wish) to do an article about any of these, it will now be impossible to revert the title of the Levoca article without a lot of to-ing and fro-ing. So do please take a breath and think a little before making changes of this sort. Best, --Smerus (talk) 17:27, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Smerus: thanks for the note; it's a pretty standard move, which is why Basilica of the Visitation of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Levoča is now tagged with {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}}: because the specific title is not currently needed. At such time as the other articles are created, I am happy to help out, as I have done frequently in similar cases in the past. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:44, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks UnitedStatesian - best, --Smerus (talk) 20:18, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, now that I have created Basilica of the Visitation of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Staré Hory, can you please restore Basilica of the Visitation of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Levoča and change Basilica of the Visitation of the Blessed Virgin Mary to a disambig page? With thanks, --Smerus (talk) 18:48, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done @Smerus:: thanks for letting me know, should be all set now. Let me know any other way I can be of help. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:03, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming WikiEd courses

Just as a heads-up, I raised the issue of renaming things like that Oklahoam WikiEd course and was advised that the best approach is to notify them on the Education noticeboard rather than renaming them ourselves, as there's various dependencies to consider. Good work on the wanted categories BTW, next I need to get a run in on my Quarry for uncategorised cats, hopefully tomorrow morning - it's at the limits of the Quarry timeouts so only works before the US wakes up. Le Deluge (talk) 01:14, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Le Deluge:: thanks for the heads up, and for the kudos. I'll do some thinking about how to deal with the WikiEd issue. I look forward to tackling the next run of Uncategorized cats and Wanted cats, so definitely appreciate all your good work there (and everywhere else, of course!). UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:28, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Katupitiya Walauwa

Hello! I just want to talk about this Katupitiya Walauwa. It’s real article. And on Wikipedia it’s deleted. I want keep this article forever. And it’s missing place.... WK 12:46, 1 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wishmithak (talk • contribs)

MP

You seem to have placed a G13 tag on Draft:Elijah K. Sumbeiywo. and on Reena Devi Alias Reena Yadav]] Since they are MPs a MP, and there's an adequate source to show it, I & another ed. accepted the drafts as article.s DGG ( talk ) 17:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Roller coasters introduced in 2022

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Draft:Canadian Party Life

Hey UnitedStatesian, thank you for disabling the categories on my created page while it's still in Draft. Do you believe that my draft will get approved? If so when, and is there anything you could do to speed up the approval process? I would. really appreciate it! Thanks --RickyRosea69 (talk) 16:40, 5 December 2020 (EST)

@RickyRosea69: I officially submitted the draft on your behalf; it usually takes 1-3 months (may be less or more) for a draft to be reviewed. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:52, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
unfortunately, I declined the draft for lack of substantial 3rd party reliable published sources, not press releases or blogs or postings or mere notices . If you want to take the responsibility of accepting it yourself you can, but if it is not improved, I will probably list it for AfD. DGG ( talk ) 05:33, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DGG: thanks for the review, I had the same opinion but wanted the second set of eyes. If RR is able to find the sources needed to improve it significantly, we'll give it another look of course, but for now it's not ready for the encyclopedia. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:38, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
and it's a illustration of the problem with instructors who run courses without help from the education project(s). Since anybody can edit, there's no way wel'll ever stop them, especially as we never hear from them till the end of the term. DGG ( talk ) 17:01, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DGG and UnitedStatesian . Unfortunately, my group and I cannot control the education system and/or the assignment that was assigned to us. We agree that the grading expectations of this assignment are flawed, however, we have no choice but to try our best. Please, what else do we need to do for this draft to be approved? If not we will have to search elsewhere for help as we're all trying our best to get a good mark. RickyRosea69 (talk) 15:45, 9 December 2020 (EST)

I have repeatedly offered RR that if she can help me get in touch with the instructor, I or others involved in the ed project can possibly help explain things. DGG ( talk ) 20:55, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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New Page Patrol December Newsletter

Hello UnitedStatesian,

A chart of the 2020 New Page Patrol Queue

Year in review

It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.

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1 DannyS712 bot III (talk) 67,552 Patrol Page Curation
2 Rosguill (talk) 63,821 Patrol Page Curation
3 John B123 (talk) 21,697 Patrol Page Curation
4 Onel5969 (talk) 19,879 Patrol Page Curation
5 JTtheOG (talk) 12,901 Patrol Page Curation
6 Mcampany (talk) 9,103 Patrol Page Curation
7 DragonflySixtyseven (talk) 6,401 Patrol Page Curation
8 Mccapra (talk) 4,918 Patrol Page Curation
9 Hughesdarren (talk) 4,520 Patrol Page Curation
10 Utopes (talk) 3,958 Patrol Page Curation
Reviewer of the Year

John B123 has been named reviewer of the year for 2020. John has held the permission for just over 6 months and in that time has helped cut into the queue by reviewing more than 18,000 articles. His talk page shows his efforts to communicate with users, upholding NPP's goal of nurturing new users and quality over quantity.

NPP Technical Achievement Award

As a special recognition and thank you DannyS712 has been awarded the first NPP Technical Achievement Award. His work programming the bot has helped us patrol redirects tremendously - more than 60,000 redirects this past year. This has been a large contribution to New Page Patrol and definitely is worthy of recognition.

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Draftified articles

There are quite a few articles that were moved to draft space but were not newly created and need to be reviewed per WP:ATD-I. Would you be willing to take a look? There are many but these are just from one editor over the last few months: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Thanks 74.75.108.129 (talk) 20:37, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It would be good if you would log in with a user id so I could respond accurately. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:50, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:OMX has been nominated for discussion

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Do what You want. I left Wikipedia for good. -- Bojan  Talk  22:36, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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