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    The Spam-whitelist page is used in conjunction with the Mediawiki SpamBlacklist extension, and lists strings of text that override Meta's blacklist and the local spam-blacklist. Any administrator can edit the spam whitelist. Please post comments to the appropriate section below: Proposed additions (web pages to unblock), Proposed removals (sites to reblock), or Troubleshooting and problems; read the messageboxes at the top of each section for an explanation. See also MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist.

    Please enter your requests at the bottom of the Proposed additions to Whitelist section and not at the very bottom of the page. Sign your requests with four tildes: ~~~~

    Also in your request, please include the following:

    1. The link that you want whitelisted in the section title, like === example.com/help/index.php === .
    2. The Wikipedia page on which you want to use the link
    3. An explanation why it would be useful to the encyclopedia article proper
    4. If the site you're requesting is listed at /Common requests, please include confirmation that you have read the reason why requests regarding the site are commonly denied and that you still desire to proceed with your request

    Important: You must provide a full link to the specific web page you want to be whitelisted (leave out the http:// from the front; otherwise you will not be able to save your edit to this page). Requests quoting only a domain (i.e. ending in .com or similar with nothing after the / character) are likely to be denied. If you wish to have a site fully unblocked please visit the relevant section of MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist.

    Note: Do not request links to be whitelisted where you can reasonably suspect that the material you want to link to is in violation of copyright (see WP:LINKVIO). Such requests will likely be summarily rejected.

    There is no automated notification system in place for the results of requests, and you will not be notified when your request has a response. You should therefore add this page to your personal watch list, to your notifications through the subscribe feature, or check back here every few days to see if there is any progress on it; in particular, you should check whether administrators have raised any additional queries or expressed any concerns about the request, as failure to reply to these promptly will generally result in the request being denied.

    Completed requests are archived, additions and removal are logged. →snippet for logging: {{/request|796639362#section_name}}

    Note that requests from new or unregistered users are not usually considered.

    Admins: Use seth's tool to search the spamlists.

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    Notice to everyone about our Reliable sources and External links noticeboards

    If you have a source that you would like to add to the spam-whitelist, but you are uncertain that it meets Wikipedia's guideline on reliability, please ask for opinions on the Reliable sources noticeboard, to confirm that it does meet that guideline, before submitting your whitelisting request here. In your request, link to the confirming discussion on that noticeboard.

    Likewise, if you have an external link that you are uncertain meets Wikipedia's guideline on external links, please get confirmation on the External links noticeboard before submitting your whitelisting request here.

    If your whitelist request falls under one of these two categories, the admins will be more willing to have the source whitelisted if you can achieve consensus at one of the above noticeboards.

    Proposed additions to Whitelist (web pages to unblock)


    Manning.com

    Specifically, www.manning.com/books/ejb-3-in-action which is a book cited by the Plain old Java object page. Urhixidur (talk) 14:04, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    no Declined. There's no requirement for references to be online, particularly for books. Also you can cite Google books if you want: https://books.google.com/books?id=Qo8pmwEACAAJ ~Anachronist (talk) 18:46, 27 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Northern Transmissions

    I'm trying to figure out why the website Northern Transmissions has been blocked. It seems like a perfectly legitimate music criticism site as best I can tell. Mbroderick271 (talk) 04:10, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Mbroderick271: This was spammed by several IPs in 2012, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2012 Archive Oct 1#northerntransmissions. plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 04:29, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Dirk Beetstra:So does this mean I can use it now or is it still on the bad boys list? Mbroderick271 (talk) 04:37, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Mbroderick271: You can use this specific link, no other documents on the same site. There has been multiple-IP spamming of this, I am not comfortable with removing such sites before we really see whitescale, general use. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:25, 20 July 2017 (UTC) (reping: @Mbroderick271: --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:25, 20 July 2017 (UTC))[reply]

    change.org petition re iYogi

    change.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

    Article iYogi would benefit from a link to www.change.org/p/ministry-of-labour-and-employment-iyogi-technical-services-pvt-ltd-hasn-t-paid-us-salary-since-april-2016

    This is a company which seems to be closing down without paying its employees. There is much information in forums and the like by employees seeking redress, but I haven't found more formal information. The petition I link was started by an employee, and lists a number of issues that are not well-sourced elsewhere. The purpose of the link is to establish the existence of a petition, and to report on claims. The text I have drafted is

    An online petition was set up in late 2016 starting "I was working with iYogi Technical Services Pvt Ltd Gurgaon Haryana ... iYogi didn't pay my salary from April 2016", and listing events and problems, essentially that promises are made, no funds are provided, that the company had asked all employees to resign though they had not been paid, that payment into the Provident Fund had not been made since August 2015, and that the company owner has funds, and has set up new companies in other names. The petition, to be delivered to the Ministry of Labour and Employment, reported 343 supporters as of July 2017. It requested payment to workers of three months' back salary, with the remainder 45 days later. [link to petition URL here]

    Thanks and best wishes, Pol098 (talk) 10:55, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Pol098: did you read /Common requests? --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:04, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for response. Yes, I had read the section on change.org carefully, which is why I said "The purpose of the link is to establish the existence of a petition, and to report on claims", rather than any of the we don't allows. Perhaps I should rather say that the petition is a source to support that specific claims have been made against the company.
    • we don't allow users to add links to Wikipedia to get people to visit and perhaps sign their petition, whatever it is.
      Clearly not the purpose of the text I have drafted. It's also not my petition; I have no connection whatsoever beyond having contributed to the technical support scam and related articles.
    • We also don't allow links to petition sites to demonstrate how many people have signed the petition
      While I mention the number of responses, it's simply a piece of information not vital to the issues, rather than something I want to demonstrate; I have no objection to not mentioning it.

      The problem with information on this company is that very little is actually happening, so there is no news to report: there are pending lawsuits and so on, but the company simply seems to be vanishing. In addition to this petition, searching finds many complaints by employees of iYogi trying to gain redress; but the petition seems a somewhat better source. Pol098 (talk) 13:16, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Pol098: So this is a primary source, where you have no independent sourcing that this is actually encyclopedic material. I mean, you have no evidence for the point that they did not pay salary, for the made promises, .. except for this petition? --Dirk Beetstra T C 13:38, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    "you have no evidence for the point that they did not pay salary?". (1) I do; it's documented elsewhere in the article, though not in the proposed text. (2) My draft says that an online petition exists making these claims; it does not state them as simple fact. This is one of the many cases where there is ample information, in the form typically of complaints sites where large numbers of employees claim, with name and employee number, about their salaries and pension contributions not being paid, without this having been picked up much by news sites. See for example:
    https://www.complaintboard.in/?search=iyogi
    https://www.consumercomplaints.in/?search=iyogi
    http://www.beindian.org/complaint-against-iyogi/
    http://www.consumerredressal.com/complaints/categoryID/18/Provident-Fund
    Best wishes, Pol098 (talk) 14:53, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Pol098: Sorry, I misunderstood that. There are just no independent sources for the existence of the petition. Then the question remains: why does Wikipedia have to report that. --Dirk Beetstra T C 15:15, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    What I mean here is, is that I have problems with having a primary source on that, without secondary sources to back it up, on a petition that has , you say, 343 votes. That number is unreliable, it has not been vetted, there could be 250 fake votes in it. Anyone can write a petition on change.org. Why is this petition important (to Wikipedia readers, I understand that it is to the people itself, but that argument is a WP:SOAPBOX violation). I just have been looking a bit, and all I see is the primary source. Nothing else. --Dirk Beetstra T C 15:30, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    "Anyone can write a petition on change.org." I suppose that's the critical point; I don't know anything about the site. I'll leave it there, failing other sources. Best wishes, Pol098 (talk) 19:24, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Whitelist articles on Concise Encyclopedia of Economics (CEE)

    The Library of Economics and Liberty (www.econlib.org ) website has been globally blacklisted because of problems in the past. However, these problems do not involve the CEE which is hosted on that site. I request that all articles from the CEE be whitelisted, i.e. all links beginning with address www.econlib.org/library/Enc* should be whitelisted. LK (talk) 07:42, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Lawrencekhoo: I have added some full trees and biographies/title lists to the request - would that all be sufficient (the links requested here are whitelisting the tree, anything can be after the last '/' - htts://econlib.org/library/Enc/articlename will work). This is rather strictly CEE only. Just to confirm, the 2nd edition from 2008 is (for now) definitely the last edition, right? --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:00, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I believe that is sufficient. As far as I know, there are no plans for a third edition. If this ever changes, I'll make a further request here. Thanks, --LK (talk) 08:09, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Lawrencekhoo: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:11, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Fairmax Law

    These links are blocked because airmax.co is blocked. Fairmaxlaw.com itself doesn't directly go against Wikipedia's terms. These links are necessary to the Michael Jaafar wikipedia page that I'm trying to post. One link goes to his biography page on his firm's website, the second to a book he has authored, and the third to an archive of his news appearances. Estefthelemur (talk) 21:38, 7 August 2017 (UTC) estefthelemur Estefthelemur (talk) 21:38, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Has anyone come to a decision about these links? Thank you.

    I can't really speak to the need for those links, but this is indeed a false positive. There's a very aggressive regex targeting every possible permutation of "airmax" on the global blacklist; I can probably guess why. Kuru (talk) 22:02, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Of the three requested links, only the first seems remotely useful, and that only for an "external links" section, not as a reference. Given that Draft:Michael Jaafar currently does not establish that he's notable enough to be the subject of an encyclopedia article, my advice would be to do nothing for now and re-visit the issue when (if) there's a live article. I don't usually deal with the spam whitelist, so I'll leave the decision to people more familiar with it. Huon (talk) 21:32, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    ezinearticles.com/?The-Acer-D2D-Erecovery-101&id=1160163

    ezinearticles.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

    Link requested to be whitelisted: ezinearticles.com/?The-Acer-D2D-Erecovery-101&id=1160163

    Wish to use this as a reference for Acer entry under Partition type#PID_27h.

    • This is the only article I found that clearly and explicitly links the partition type ID with the product.
    • Since there's no official docs on the matter and the article is well-researched and well-written, it qualifies as a reliable source specifically to confirm a specific use of the partition type code.
    • It mentions 2 more partition types used by the software package, so some other table entries could benefit from it as well.
    • Of all the online copies of this article, this link does seem to be the original one: the earliest by date; the best formatting and attribution; the fullest in content.

    Ivan Pozdeev (talk) 20:02, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    The Daily Stormer --- Onion site

    Now that The Daily Stormer has been kicked off the clearweb, it appears that for the time being it is only accessable on the darkweb at a .onion Tor address. The present .onion blacklist is currently preventing this. Much like the whitelist done for the article Facebookcorewwwi.onion I would like to provide the official website link on the The Daily Stormer article. I would do this in two ways: 1) a link to the dstormer6em3i4km.onion (this link requires the Tor Browser to work) as well as 2) provide a link via a clearweb proxy such as onion.link, hiddenservice.net, or onion.cab. (My preference would be onion.link as above).

    Despite the infamously notorious nature of the site, it appears to fully satisfy Wikipedia:External_links#Restrictions_on_linking and Wikipedia:External_links#Official_links.

    Additionally, it may be necessary when covering the Daily Stormer controversies to use it as a primary source for official statements coming from them (an example can be found on Cloudflare#Values article). This would involve URLs of the following form:

    • Link requested to be whitelisted: dstormer6em3i4km.onion.link/matthew-prince-of-cloudflare-admits-he-killed-the-internet-because-he-thinks-andrew-anglin-is-an-asshole/
    • Link requested to be whitelisted: archive.is/2017.08.22-035310/https://dstormer6em3i4km.onion.link/matthew-prince-of-cloudflare-admits-he-killed-the-internet-because-he-thinks-andrew-anglin-is-an-asshole/

    (some background wiki discussions for reference: 1) I identified a hole in the existing .onion blacklist: MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#I_circumvented_the_onion_blacklist_to_link_Daily_Stormer. 2) see also this talk page discussion: Talk:The_Daily_Stormer#Confirming_.22Dark_Web.22_claim.)

    Cheers, --Nanite (talk) 04:11, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    A comment: I was digging around and I found only three onion links in the whitelist: facebookcorewwwi.onion silkroadvb5piz3r.onion eqt5g4fuenphqinx.onion. All appear to be defunct sites. There are numerous sites you can see on List_of_Tor_hidden_services whose articles are not blessed with a whitelisted hyperlink, however many of them appear to be illegal content like drug markets, pornography, etc.. The Daily Stormer appears to be unique in having a good reason to be linked from wikipedia yet not able to obtain a normal domain name; As of now it seems to be the only site that actually needs a .onion whitelist. (correction: facebookcorewwwi.onion does work through tor browser, but not through proxy) --Nanite (talk) 04:45, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Nanite: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:54, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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