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    The Spam-whitelist page is used in conjunction with the Mediawiki SpamBlacklist extension, and lists strings of text that override Meta's blacklist and the local spam-blacklist. Any administrator can edit the spam whitelist. Please post comments to the appropriate section below: Proposed additions (web pages to unblock), Proposed removals (sites to reblock), or Troubleshooting and problems; read the messageboxes at the top of each section for an explanation. See also MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist.

    Please enter your requests at the bottom of the Proposed additions to Whitelist section and not at the very bottom of the page. Sign your requests with four tildes: ~~~~

    Also in your request, please include the following:

    1. The link that you want whitelisted in the section title, like === example.com/help/index.php === .
    2. The Wikipedia page on which you want to use the link
    3. An explanation why it would be useful to the encyclopedia article proper
    4. If the site you're requesting is listed at /Common requests, please include confirmation that you have read the reason why requests regarding the site are commonly denied and that you still desire to proceed with your request

    Important: You must provide a full link to the specific web page you want to be whitelisted (leave out the http:// from the front; otherwise you will not be able to save your edit to this page). Requests quoting only a domain (i.e. ending in .com or similar with nothing after the / character) are likely to be denied. If you wish to have a site fully unblocked please visit the relevant section of MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist.

    Note: Do not request links to be whitelisted where you can reasonably suspect that the material you want to link to is in violation of copyright (see WP:LINKVIO). Such requests will likely be summarily rejected.

    There is no automated notification system in place for the results of requests, and you will not be notified when your request has a response. You should therefore add this page to your personal watch list, to your notifications through the subscribe feature, or check back here every few days to see if there is any progress on it; in particular, you should check whether administrators have raised any additional queries or expressed any concerns about the request, as failure to reply to these promptly will generally result in the request being denied.

    Completed requests are archived, additions and removal are logged. →snippet for logging: {{/request|958440817#section_name}}

    Note that requests from new or unregistered users are not usually considered.

    Admins: Use seth's tool to search the spamlists.

    Indicators
    Request completed:
     Done {{Done}}
     Stale {{StaleIP}}
     Request withdrawn {{withdrawn}}
    Request declined:
    no Declined {{Declined}}
     Not done {{Notdone}}
    Information:
     Additional information needed {{MoreInfo}}
    information Note: {{TakeNote}}



    Notice to everyone about our Reliable sources and External links noticeboards

    If you have a source that you would like to add to the spam-whitelist, but you are uncertain that it meets Wikipedia's guideline on reliability, please ask for opinions on the Reliable sources noticeboard, to confirm that it does meet that guideline, before submitting your whitelisting request here. In your request, link to the confirming discussion on that noticeboard.

    Likewise, if you have an external link that you are uncertain meets Wikipedia's guideline on external links, please get confirmation on the External links noticeboard before submitting your whitelisting request here.

    If your whitelist request falls under one of these two categories, the admins will be more willing to have the source whitelisted if you can achieve consensus at one of the above noticeboards.

    Proposed additions to Whitelist (web pages to unblock)


    One specific bitcointalk link

    Moot: article has been deleted. Guy (help!) 10:05, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    The sidechains article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidechain_(ledger)) lacks a reference to when the term "sidechain" was first publicly used. The oldest known public reference to this term seems to be in the aforementioned article on bitcointalk, but bitcointalk website is blacklisted. Therefore I request an exception to link to this page in order to provide the proper historical reference and definition of the term. Historical references are useful to explain how the term was used originally and compare to its definition nowadays.— Preceding unsigned comment added by SergioDemianLerner (talk • contribs)

    @SergioDemianLerner: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:03, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Beetstra, but the rationale is blatant WP:OR. Guy (help!) 08:24, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    JzG, I would call it blatant primary sourcing (though I agree that using a wiki for sourcing is a no-no). Dirk Beetstra T C 08:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Beetstra, The OR is "the first public use of the term dates back to 2012" - this is a mention (in an unreliable source) but who says it's the first public mention? The wiki doesn't support the claim. There's a problem with bitcoin.it HTTPS links HTTP links as well, of course. Guy (help!) 10:32, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    JzG, that stands and falls with finding a source that uses it earlier - until then this is the source that uses it first. Dirk Beetstra T C 10:55, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Beetstra, and that's original research, Dirk. "This is the earliest I can find" is not the same as "this is the earliest (ref: reliable source saying it's the earliest). Dictionaries can do this, and we can then cite the dictionaries as authorities for first use, but Wikipedia editors can't. Guy (help!) 11:29, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    Hindupad

    The page Jyotirmayananda Saraswati needs more sources and other biographical information. Hindupad came up as a blacklisted site for some strange reason, so perhaps either the whole domain, or a specific page should be whitelisted for the purpose of clarity within the article: Link requested to be whitelisted: hindupad.com/jyotirmayananda/ 

    Eternal Father (talk) 02:19, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Eternal Father, The article needs more reliable sources. Hindupad is blacklisted due to spamming but is also unreliable (e.g. very pro astrology). Guy (help!) 10:13, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    One specific DocDroid.net link

    We cannot link to this as it's a copyright violation Guy (help!) 14:43, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    After working on the Timeline for asexual history, I had to enlist some help on finding any link for the chapter "The Sexually Oppressed" by Myra Johnson for the book "Asexual and Autoerotic Women: Two Invisible Groups" published by Harvey L. and Jean S. Gochros in 1977. After 2 hours of Google search, I came up empty. Nothing. After asking on Twitter, someone "scanned" the chapter I needed with their phone (using an app that does that) and uploaded it to the DocDroid at the above link. Now, I am not asking for the entire site to be unblacklisted, just that link. That's all I am requesting.

    There isn't another version out there from the mountain of online sources because I have looked. Though if you all want to give it a shot, feel free. :) If you all find a link I can use for that chapter, pages 96 to 107, I'll be happy to use it. But for right now, this is it. It's all I'm asking. Thanks...Neutralhomer • Talk • 21:58 on April 19, 2020 (UTC) • #StayAtHome

    @Neutralhomer: a scan of a book from 1977 uploaded on a website that is blacklisted because .. wait for it .. it is all copyright violations on there? That reference is perfectly fine without the direct link to the material, it is available in many libraries (https://www.worldcat.org/title/sexually-oppressed/oclc/2543043), google (https://books.google.com.sa/books?vid=ISBN0809619156&redir_esc=y&hl=en). As long as the bibliograhic information is as complete as possible (include the ISBN 0809619156) and people can find it in their nearest library. --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:29, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Beetstra: Did you just link me a list of libraries, which have been ordered closed, due to the pandemic? I mean....really? Did you also say the worlds "people can find it in their nearest library"?
    I didn't think it needed saying, but that was the added benefit of actually having a copy of that particular chapter (which your links didn't provide). The benefit of having an actual copy was so that no one would have to actually risk their lives to go to a building that isn't open (and probably won't be for awhile) and look at a book, that they don't (and can't) have to look at, because we have a copy of that chapter right here.
    On top of that, I can find no information regarding "Association Press" outside of the YMCA (which I doubt is the same), so I am having trouble believing that the copyright is still in effect for a company I can't even tell even exists. Again, I would need a scan of that part of that book to determine that and I'm not risking my life for that. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 17:09 on April 20, 2020 (UTC) • #StayAtHome
    @Neutralhomer: no Declined. Material does not have to be online to be used as a reference, yes, I know, it makes it utterly inconvenient that you have to actually go outside (which, I also know, is now also not possible), and take the book in your hands, but that is not a reason to willfully violate copyrights. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:45, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, and note that copyright is with the writers, and up to 50-100 years after they die. —Dirk Beetstra T C 04:29, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have started an AN Discussion into Beetstra here into his responses above. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 15:13 on April 21, 2020 (UTC) • #StayAtHome
    • no Declined as a violation of the copyright policy, section WP:LINKVIO. Link removed URL redacted. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:39, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      (I've mixed up "(hyper)link" and "URL" there. I think we should keep it removed from the request, in the spirit of the policy, to prevent it from being copied and preserved in the archives of this talk page.) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:00, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    docdroid / OpalRaptor

    Sockpuppet of Lapitavenator blocked. Guy (help!) 10:02, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    I just want this specific link on docdroid.net to be whitelisted please (its a link to a book i have written about mesozoic cuba). i need it for the article about the extinct turtle Notoemys.OpalRaptor (please) 15:29, 24 April 2020 (GMT)

    no Declined. I'm really sorry, but this material is not in any way a reliable source to be using on Wikipedia. Additionally, you seem to be copying images in your book in a way that violates the copyrights of the image creators; you really want to correct that. Kuru (talk) 15:37, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Tatelumps: pile on no Declined. Use a reference to the original, there is no need for a convenience copy with the risk of it being a copyvio. See WP:LINKVIO. Also, maimed the link that was originally requested per said policy. --Dirk Beetstra T C 15:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    casino.guru

    WP:SPA blocked. Guy (help!) 09:31, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    Hi! I wanted to know if these pages of casino.guru website can be whitelisted. I wanted to use valuable info out of it and I couldn't because it's blacklisted so I reached out to talk: spam blacklist and they sent me here. I think this site is not spammy, has valuable information for people in their guide. I actually wanted to add information to the roulette page,blackjak and slot machines in Wikipedia, but it was not possible. It's only in spam list because every site including guru in it is automatically banned. Do you think it would be possible to whitelist it due to the fact it's really useful for adding more information (for people to use) to Wikipedia? Thank you for your response.JohnyH9 (talk) 11:19, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    @JohnyH9: no Declined, not a reliable source. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:38, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    One specific article of mejorcasino.xyz

    Another sock blocked. Guy (help!) 19:03, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    I was going to add in the spanish wikipedia article https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conteo_de_cartas about a card counting method called AS/CINCO (ACE/FIVE in spanish) but sadly the only resource in spanish of such method is the following one https://mejorcasino . xyz/blackjack-3-metodos-infalibles-para-el-blackjack-online/ and is blocked because of a URL called casino . xyz Hope anyone could help me with that. --777bratan777 (talk) 18:09, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    If that's the only source, you need to find another one. Also, this request page is for English Wikipedia, not es wiki. Praxidicae (talk) 18:38, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    breitbart.com/author/Gary-Graham/

    The link currently at Gary Graham is broken because the page won't save otherwise. It should be pretty obvious that a Breitbart author link is the best reference for the statement that he's a Breitbart contributor. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 20:58, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Remove Nairaland.com

    Nairaland.com is blacklisted. I don't know the reason for that. UncleSnr (talk) 07:51, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    @UncleSnr: likely because it was spammed. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:55, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    no Declined. Hi UncleSnr, Nairaland was added to the spam blacklist because it was frequently used in violation of the biographies of living persons policy, as discussed in Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 272 § Nairaland. If there are specific pages on Nairaland that you would like to cite, and the citations comply with the verifiability policy and reliable sources guideline, then please request whitelisting of these specific pages here. — Newslinger talk 08:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]


    pornhub.com/insights/belle-delphine

    This link is currently blocked and I totally understand why pornhub.com is blocked. I'm trying to add this link as a reference/citation for the following sentence: Pornhub Insights also published an article detailing that Kirschner's videos became the most-disliked in the history of the website.

    I think this is a pretty reasonable usage of the the blocked webpage and the sentence it would be referencing is rather relevant to the prose. Best wishes, Soulbust (talk) 05:38, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    @Soulbust: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:47, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Beetstra: Hey thank you so much for adding it to the whitelist! However, when I tried to add the https:// variant of the link in the url parameter of the reference, it triggered the spam warning message. Is there any way to fix this? Soulbust (talk) 07:04, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Soulbust: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist - my script crashed and I did not notice (busy with other things). Trying again. --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:37, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Beetstra: Just tried it out and it's working. Thank you, I really appreciate it! Soulbust (talk) 09:01, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Nolo.com

    1. Explain why the site should be whitelisted.

    I believe the conclusion of this discussion is that Nolo.com should be whitelisted.
    I don't believe it has been yet, and I would appreciate it if it were so I can use it as a source.

    2.Explain which articles would benefit from the addition of the link.

    Any article having to do with law.

    3.Provide the specific link to the page you're requesting be added.

    https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/is-violating-a-shelter-in-place-order-a-crime.html

    nolo.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

    I tried to link in a Nolo.com article, and I had to mess up the link so editors could look at it here. --David Tornheim (talk) 16:07, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    David Tornheim, what you are looking for is a delisting request at WT:SBL. --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:28, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
     Done. --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:31, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Crap, wait. I should learn to read:
    • Link requested to be whitelisted: nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/
    That is what we want. --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @David Tornheim: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Beetstra: Thanks. That takes care of the problem indeed. --David Tornheim (talk) 04:16, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    420chan.org

    420chan.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

    Per MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist § 420chan.org, permalink [1]. While there I asked that the entire domain be unblocked, User:JzG refused on the grounds that the list actually had been recently purged, which I didn't know, so if it wasn't really needed it wouldn't even be there. I agree with them that this domain will never be a source on any article but 420chan, so I am narrowing my request to only allow the index through so that I may link it in {{Infobox website}}, similar to what we do for 4chan, etc. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) 10:06, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    @Psiĥedelisto: per /Common requests#About, we would need an about-page or a full url (including an index.htm) of the index page. Can you please provide a suitable link? --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:43, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Beetstra: Sorry, missed that
    Link requested to be whitelisted: 420chan.org/index.php
    seems to work fine. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) 11:43, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Psiĥedelisto: No probs! plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:46, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Re-ping User:Psiĥedelisto, my script seems to have mispinged due to an error of me. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:49, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    420chan.org/what.htm

    @Beetstra: Do you mind also allowing Link requested to be whitelisted: 420chan.org/what.htm? Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) 12:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Psiĥedelisto, for the record, do you mind to state the use/reason? Dirk Beetstra T C 12:26, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Beetstra: Sure. I plan to write this: According to its founder, its name is a portmanteau of 420, a slang word originating in cannabis culture but now applicable to drug culture more generally, and 4chan, another imageboard website., cited to that page, which existed in 2008 (see http://web.archive.org/web/20080207023015/http://www.420chan.org/what.htm. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) 12:36, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Psiĥedelisto: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:48, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    420chan.org/blog/2015/10/10/first-new-board-in-four-years/

    @Beetstra: Really very sorry to ping you again...I hate doing it three times. Someone on Twitter wondered whether they actually claim the foundation date, or if it only comes from WHOIS, which might be too WP:OR. I did read it on their Facebook page, but it seems like they changed the wording slightly to Est 2005 and there's no archive of it so that's not citeable. I found a blog post, however, that states it outright (their whole blog seems down at moment):
    • http://web.archive.org/web/20190224100651/https://420chan.org/blog/2015/10/10/first-new-board-in-four-years/
    • Link requested to be whitelisted: 420chan.org/blog/2015/10/10/first-new-board-in-four-years/
    I'd like to cite this as well. It should be allowed under WP:ABOUTSELF. Instead of pinging you a fourth time, I'll just refrain from adding any more links :P It might make sense to whitelist the whole blog, but obviously it's up to you. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) 13:21, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Now I'm the one that forgot you need to put the username on the same line as the signature to make a ping, Beetstra. Stuff's not going my way today. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) 13:22, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Psiĥedelisto: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 14:18, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    swarajyamag.com/about-us

    About Us page for Swarajya, used in infobox and "External links" section. — Newslinger talk 20:38, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. — Newslinger talk 20:38, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Proposed removals from Whitelist (web pages or link patterns to reblock)

    bitcointalk.org

    • Link requested to be whitelisted: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172991.msg1801451#msg1801451
    • Link requested to be whitelisted: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249
    • Link requested to be whitelisted: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919116.msg10096563
    • Link requested to be whitelisted: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306
    • Link requested to be whitelisted: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93848.msg1037745#msg1037745

    There are six whitelisted links to the crypto forum bitcointalk. This is not a reliable source, usage has been on a WP:ABOUTSELF/WP:SPS basis. The above five are unused and should be removed from the whitelist.

    There is one remaining, apparently legitimate use:

    Any objections to me removing them? Guy (help!) 10:13, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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