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RfC Notice: Living members of deposed royal families and the titles attributed to them on WP
I have opened an RfC on articles about living members of families whose ancestors were deposed as monarchs of various countries and the titles and "styles" attributed to these living people, often in a misleading way and inaccurate way in my opinion. Please join in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies "Use of royal "Titles and styles" and honorific prefixes in articles and templates referring to pretenders to abolished royal titles and their families"[1]
Robert Scarano, Jr. – Biography does not adhere to NPOV policy. Content out of date.
Biography does not adhere to NPOV policy. Content out of date. Initial bio paragraph contains no sources and is biased and out of date.
For example, here is the Professional Bio per the Brooklyn Chamber of Commerce: What does your business do? When and Why did you join the Brooklyn Chamber? Founded in 1985 by Robert Scarano, Jr., AIA, FARA, ALA, award-winning Scarano Architects, PLLC is responsible for the design of over 400 multi-family and mixed-use properties designed and built in 2004, primarily in Brooklyn and Manhattan. Working with a wide range of developers in both profit and non-profit sectors, such as The NYC Housing Authority and Chamber Members Strategic Construction Corporation and The Kay Organization, Scarano designers achieve a new dimension for the architectural vocabulary that is respectful of the history of a given area, while providing gracious, livable space. In October 2004, the firm completed its unique office roof extension, which has become a visual signpost for travelers on the Manhattan Bridge, instantly identifying Vinegar Hill. - See more at: http://www.ibrooklyn.com/member_promotion/scarano.aspx#sthash.cDDl7IqI.dpuf
Here is an example of one editor removing large amounts of information (see Awards and Professional Honors that were all deleted below) and replacing with entirely different content: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Scarano,_Jr.&diff=prev&oldid=496283904
Vandalism of Parcheesi
The article Parcheesi has been repeatedly vandalized by user 68.196.14.175 , who always says that the game can be won simply by bringing a wheel of cheese. The most recent case is [2] . Others extend back to last August. All four levels of warning have been posted on the (otherwise blank) user-page, with no response but more vandalism. I have just asked for the vandal to be blocked, but the request was taken down with a statement that the complaint was not actionable. Will someone please enlighten me? J S Ayer (talk) 04:38, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
- Sounds like vandalism or trolling rather than an NPOV issue. Try WP:AIV, WP:RFPP, or -if you have a strong stomach- WP:ANI. Joefromrandb (talk) 07:46, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
I like Charlie Wilson, but to say that the article is non-neutral would be an understatement. I already removed a few unsourced, POV-pushing sections (not statements; sections) but the tone of the article is still in rough shape. Statements like "Charlie Wilson’s distinctive voice is evocative of both past and present" and "Wilson's delivery of this beautiful song and its performance at radio have confirmed that it is a wedding classic for years to come" are only a couple of many examples. (I started a discussion here first instead of on the talk page because the talk page has barely been looked at since the article was created almost ten years ago.) Erpert WHAT DO YOU WANT??? 03:20, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
"Isaeli settlement" article
Hello The article Israeli settlement seems to be highly biased. I find that the bias points are all throughout the article, and not in certain minor sections. I have stated some examples in the talk page, under "Bias" thread. Here is a link to the discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Israeli_settlement. I wish to thank anyone who will help with making this article neutral. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.139.24.45 (talk) 15:25, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Jat people
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jat_people
Im concerned editors aren't reflecting all sides here; see talk page POV ref. One editor in particular took upon herself to remove the NPOV tag whilst being one side of a debate; I'd also add she seems to be spending an unhealthy amount of time on this subject. This article needs some independent fresh editorial and admim support as current sides can't reach consensus and seem too involved in the subject matter. I thought it wass sloppiness first but suspect it might be a wiki cyber caste war through coordinated gaming of NPOV from part of this jat group and people who are from opposing tribes. Sitush, oxywrian and fowler seem on one side and vplivecomm, abstruce on the other.
(I've I also looked at one editors talk page which seems to suggest this editor is constantly on wiki to the dismay of many other editors) Evidence first (talk) 09:50, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- I think that you may be misunderstanding WP:CONSENSUS. It is not a vote and any opinions that are expressed which do not comply with policy should be discounted when assessing outcomes. You are correct that numerous people have objected to things on that article, most commonly the statement that the Jats were traditionally non-elite tillers. The problem is, they seem to object more on principle than because of policy. Time and again, they have been asked to provide reliable sources etc and they have failed to do so; time and again, they have been pointed to WP:CENSORED and other relevant policies but have failed to understand them. You are the latest in a long line to raise issues but your comment is pretty vague.
- Most of the wording in the present version, and in particular that of the lead section, is the work of Fowler&fowler but I for one have checked it against the available sources and it appears to reflect them. As so often with caste-related articles, this appears to be less a case of seeking neutrality than of appeasing vanity. - Sitush (talk) 10:43, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- The Jat people were indeed non-elite tillers of the earth, confirmed by solid sources. They were scorned by the Rajputs. This historic situation must be described to the reader, despite some editors distaste for it. Binksternet (talk) 16:33, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
views from reliable sources are rejected without explain. They also keep removing the POV tag while the dispute is unresolved.124.168.29.171 (talk) 01:45, 2 January 2014 (UTC)