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Lux Leaks suggested for "in the news"

You might want to take a look at: Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#Luxembourg_Leaks -- Neudabei (talk) 21:38, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Luxembourg Leaks

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. μηδείς (talk) 00:22, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Talk?

I am curious why, as an admin, it behooves you to edit war on an article at AdF and not to participate in the discussion at the Luxembourg Leaks talk page. I am also curious why you have been recruited above and find it proper to act as you have. μηδείς (talk) 01:45, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Recruited? I have not participated in the ITN discussion to which you say I was recruited above. Thue (talk) 02:05, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Take this as your 3RR warning. μηδείς (talk) 01:45, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have reverted twice. For good reason both times. Thue (talk) 02:05, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DDR5 SDRAM

You deleted DDR5 SDRAM. Modules exist. I am currently studying them to get a better understanding of wavelet transform. Just FYI. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.197.6.134 (talk) 18:39, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever does a general-purpose SDRAM standard have to do with wavelet transforms? Ate you sure you are not thinking about GDDR5, which is indeed something you would use for wevelet transforms on a GPU? Thue (talk) 01:06, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Windows Media Video (video compression format)

Hey, Thue. I noticed that recently, you copied part of Windows Media Video article and created Windows Media Video (video compression format), creating a misleading article fork that gives the impression that there is also something called "Windows Media Video" file format separate from Advanced Systems Format format. Unfortunately, not only I do not see a source for this assertion, Windows Media Video's body and Advanced Systems Format article also contends that no such thing exists.

Therefore, I performed what I hope is a BRD revert. (I believe the magnitude of the problem warranted this act.) But I am more than ready to discuss this issue and see your sources in the article talk page. Fleet Command (talk) 08:33, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge discussion for Turla (malware)

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@MartinThoma: If they are two articles about the same thing, then just go ahead and merge them. Thue (talk) 19:30, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hjælperen - Slaget på Reden

Hej Thue,

Jeg sidder og læser en Nelson biografi (Sugden) og faldt over en ikke særligt rosende omtale af Fregatten Hjælperen (Slaget på Reden). Jeg har rettet typen på skibet (til defensionsfregat) men har ikke skrevet noget om kaptajn eller besætning - endnu. Men kunne det ikke være interessant at tilføje navnene på de danskere, som Sugden nævner med navn? Flertallet rosende, Lillienschiold knapt så meget...

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carsten crancku@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carsten Franck (talk • contribs) 01:14, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Carsten Franck: Jo, det er da en skæg detalje at have med i en artikel, passer nok bedst ind i HDMS Hielperen. Thue (talk) 02:46, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Links to Wikia

Hi Thue, I reverted your addition of the link to the SC2 Wikia wiki on the article on LotV. Generally, external links to open wikis are discouraged by our external links policy (under #12). I understand your sentiment, and the SC2 wiki tends to be fairly stable, but precedent has it that it's an external link we don't use. All the best, Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 18:29, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Theories

Theories of this kind are even less acceptable on Wikipedia than rumors: we don't report speculation, particularly if they haven't been picked up in multiple sources. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a place to make guesses and post them in case they're true . You're experienced enough to know that this sort of thing should never be reported in Wikipedia's voice in any case. Please self-revert, or at least please use the talkpage to discuss this. Acroterion (talk) 13:39, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Acroterion: I am experienced enough that theories do have their place here. You are talking complete nonsense, and I strongly question your competence. Are you going to delete the our article about the Theory of Gravity next? Thue (talk) 19:13, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Axact

Hi Thue. Could you please remove the wikilinks for all of the Axact websites that do not already have Wikipedia articles? These are almost certainly non-notable. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 20:44, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, it was done by someone else. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 06:45, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Material design

I've chimed into the discussion and would appreciate it if you could contribute once more. I wholeheartedly agree with you and think it should be moved back.–Totie (talk) 03:21, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Level packs listed at Redirects for discussion

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blurb wikilinked

Updated blurb to wikilink to Turkey, for Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#.5BPosted.5D_2015_Ankara_bombings. If you can update ITN would be great. 77.42.138.191 (talk) 13:59, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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You curated my page "page Kate Newmann was reviewed by Thue" and I wanted to say thanks. I am always happy when a new page is good to go. 🍺 Antiqueight ^chat 12:13, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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AlphaGo versus Lee Sedol

Thank you for handling the move back to AlphaGo versus Lee Sedol. However, I don't think you moved the talk page? It seems odd as a move normally moves the talk page by default. Talk:Google DeepMind Challenge Match did not get redirected. I tried to move the talk page but it'll need an admin. --Marc Kupper|talk 09:23, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for your moving Google DeepMind Challenge Match back to AlphaGo versus Lee Sedol. Please also move Talk:Google DeepMind Challenge Match back to Talk:AlphaGo versus Lee Sedol. Thank you! --Neo-Jay (talk) 09:33, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I thought I had checked the "move talk page too" box. I guess not. 'Tis done. Thue (talk) 10:50, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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A pie for you!

Thanks for book articles , just a note WP:FILEUPLOADWIZARD very easy to use to add covers. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 20:53, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Need info on your mute swan on nest photo from 2005

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@John B123: Which fact exactly in that article do you think needs a citation? Note that not every single word in an article needs a citation. Thue (talk) 21:40, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Verifiability, and in particular All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists, and captions, must be verifiable. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 23:15, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@John B123: Again, not every single word of an article needs to be referenced to call an article verifiable. You have not answered my question of which fact in that article you think needs a reference. Thue (talk) 19:40, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The whole article is unreferenced therefore unverified. --John B123 (talk) 19:55, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@John B123: It is meaningless to say that "The whole article is unreferenced therefore unverified". For example Wikipedia:Verifiability says "All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports" - but you or anybody else have not challenged any material in the article. Hence the article does not fail Wikipedia:Verifiability. Please point out something you some fact think should be referenced, or stop claiming the article is unverified. Thue (talk) 01:42, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am challenging the whole article. I cannot believe an Admin of WP thinks a totally unreferenced article is acceptable. --John B123 (talk) 07:59, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Thue, back in 2013 you created this "quick article", I presume in anticipation more coverage of Shumow would emerge because of Snowden's revelations. Eleven years on, it doesn't look like this has happened. I intend to redirect Shumov's article to Dual_EC_DRBG where his work is discussed. Is that okay with you? – Teratix ₵ 15:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Teratix: I agree that he is marginally notable. But I don't see how it would make Wikipedia better to delete the current small page? Just leave it as it is, it is better than nothing. Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia, we won't run out of paper. People reading about Dual_EC_DRBG here or elsewhere will be curious who he is, will look him up, and will be best served with the current page instead of a redirect. Thue (talk) 18:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But surely readers are better served by redirection to a larger article that places Shumov's role in context compared to a poorly referenced stub? If you would really prefer to cover Shumov in an independent article, it will need some better citations. – Teratix ₵ 07:08, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Teratix: If people have specifically ended up on the Shumow page, then it is because they specifically want to know about who Shumov is. Redirecting readers to some other article not about Shumov, and which is not written with the goal of saying who Shumov is so readers have to hope they can dig out details about who Shumov is, is obviously not the optimal solution. And the link to Dual_EC_DRBG will be right there in Shumov's article, trivial to click, if people want to know the context about that. Even a small stub is far better for readers than the redirect you are proposing. Thue (talk) 19:46, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Look, I basically expected one of two responses to this notice: (1) "Yeah sure, I thought he'd get more coverage but that hasn't happened, go ahead and redirect." (2) "No, he's actually a pretty notable figure, the article just needs to be expanded, here's a few links."

I didn't really expect an administrator to double down and argue the article in its current state is perfectly acceptable. It exclusively relies on primary sources associated with Shumov himself. – Teratix ₵ 14:06, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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