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Sacrifice

Okay, I took your advice and worked on the lead, though it is still a little OOU because of what Giant said. Is there anything else you would like me to work on? Also Slam is the only reliable one that is alright for the lead. I have 411Mania and that is it, though FAC reviewers would have a problem with it in the lead.--WillC 21:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Well since it helped Lockdown pass and was a problem that the lead was in universe during its first FAC and not one in the second I would rather go by having the lead OOU. I agree I went too far in depth in the lead, I just felt I was leaving stuff out since TNA acted like itself and went gimmick over board at Sacrifice with a fucked up tournament and some weird battle royal. Wasn't sure what too mention and what I shouldn't.--WillC 22:13, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
The problem is no one reviews peer reviews anymore. I just nominated it. Just doing it to get 50 points in the cup. Get somemore experience for BFG when I take it after a peer review. Prose is never my strong suit anyway.--WillC 23:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm not doing it for the tournament. That is just a bonus. I was taking Sacrifice to FAC anyway; remember a few months ago I had it on the waiting list to FAC wwhen Lockdown was up. I'm taking all of the 2008 TNA PPV events to FAC. It just took me a while to decide to take Sacrifce. I was going to wait till after BFG but Sacrifice would have been easier to take. I rush everything. I rushed Lockdown. If Sacrifice fails it fails. I'll take it back after I work on it and a peer review. I'm busy in real life so I didn't want to deal with the peer review process anyway.--WillC 23:36, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the prose of Sacrifice. It wasn't like that when I nominated it. I got it copyedited by someone outside the project and he must have not understood somethings. I'll work on it.--WillC 02:44, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
It was a last minute thing. I just asked him off the top of my head. Well I'm working on the rest of the background now.--WillC 02:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I was working on the tournament, the last few sentences of the first paragraph sound weird to me and the situation is hard for me to write very well. So that is probably written badly. I'll work on it somemore tomorrow. Just thought to let you know.--WillC 04:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey, hold off on any comments for Sacrifice. I'm taking it into consideration to withdraw it since I do not have enough time at the moment to deal with the process.--WillC 16:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I didn't withdraw it because of the prose, I withdrew it mainly because I'm leaving for a few weeks to get other stuff in my life fixed. I wasn't happy with Sacrifice in the first place and I'm still not happy with Lockdown, so I never can tell if anything is ready or not. I've been thinking about it since before I nominated if I should. I went ahead thinking I would have time. Then last night I discovered something new and this morning I finally decided to withdraw it.--WillC 21:53, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that was the first thing I did. I went straight to her and asked to withdraw it. [1]--WillC 00:09, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
I've been wondering the same. I'm expecting a bot to come along later this night.--WillC 00:17, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Do you know anything about production sections?--WillC 00:18, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
I want to make one for Victory Road (2004), which didn't get alot of promotion and wasn't that fancy but I feel one is needed since it was TNA's first monthly three hour event. Just wondering if there was anyone who could give me a few pointers on finding good information.--WillC 00:43, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
The problem is I can't find that info. It is common knowledge to a TNA fan but I've never seen one source from TNA or anyother site that speaks on how TNA come to the point. It all has to do with TNA believing they had a strong enough fan base that they could do monthly $30 PPVs. They got Impact on Fox Net and their last weekly PPV was held on September 8 which built the VR main event. I can give the day it was announced that it would be held at the Impact Zone but that is about it.--WillC 00:51, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
I checked it for TNA Wrestling.com and found nothing.--WillC 01:01, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
They have nothing for 2004 era of TNA's site. Around a few for 05 but they are just the main page and nothing else. I looked a while ago.--WillC 01:17, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
TNA doesn't even keep Impact results longer than four months. I got lucky to find their results for BFG 07. I'm looking at 411Mania hoping they give me something.--WillC 01:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

RR 2009

It's still written as The Brian Kendrick. Also, I have been editing PPV articles long before you and know what we do. For tag teams that have "the" in their name but not in the article name (like The Road Warriors and The Dudley Boyz), we leave "The" outside of the link. Please revert your edit since I am right. TJ Spyke 23:02, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't necessarily say you are better, I choose not to write them because I disagree with certain things (like putting their real names) and would not use them when writing. Writing The Brian Kendrick is the same as The Brian Kendrick, the only difference is that the former uses up less space. Not a big deal, but I see no reason include basically write his name twice everytime we link to him. TJ Spyke 23:19, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
No, there is no "correct" way in this case. It's a matter of opinion. You think the long way is better, I think the shorter and more concise version is better. Since I added it in, it should go back. TJ Spyke 23:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Lazy? I have spent tons of times fixing links and in a lot of articles. "The [[Brian Kendrick]]" says EXACTLY the same information as [[Brian Kendrick|The Brian Kendrick]] and is just as correct. The way I see it, there was no reason whatsoever for you to change it. TJ Spyke 23:34, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm not trying to sound hostile. I just don't see the point in basically writing his name twice just to include "The" in the actual link. TJ Spyke 23:44, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I think you may have shot yourself in the foot: Wikipedia:PIPE#When not to use (the example of using "President [[Barack Obama]]" instead of "[[Barack Obama|President Barack Obama]]". TJ Spyke 00:05, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
That one supports my usage, nothing in either article supports yours (WP:THE is about article titles). TJ Spyke 00:15, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
So "[[Brian Kendrick|The Brian Kendrick]]" is NOT longer than "The [[Brian Kendrick]]"? Hahaha. TJ Spyke 00:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Why not settle this the same way as WP:ENGVAR? In the future, whoever adds it in can decide. TJ Spyke 00:34, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Timeline of the 1997 Pacific hurricane season

 DoneJuliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:48, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Can I get you to weigh in on some sources at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of UAAP Final Four results? We need a third opinion. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:39, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Gosh Truco, stop getting to the prose problems before me :D. I just got through the entire FLC list, save a couple of the sports lists at the top. Thanks for all your help in reviewing and such. I reviewed one of your wrestling lists, you may want to look at that. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I meant that I haven't reviewed the FA cup list or starting pitchers list, and I won't until the nominators fix your issues first. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:13, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, guess we are going to have to take this to ANI :D. Anyway, all issues were resolved, I supported. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:18, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
'Tis unfortunate. I spend so much time reviewing and copy-editing for others that I don't have that much time for article writing. I will try to get back to it later this month. You'll be watching the game, of course? Dabomb87 (talk) 19:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) Ravens, definitely! I hate most teams from Pennsylvania, so I am hoping for a Ravens–Cardinals Super Bowl. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:50, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

So kind of you... :) Dabomb87 (talk) 22:04, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey Truco, if you have time, can you leave a review on the talk page. I plan on nominating for FLC after your review (if you give one). iMatthew // talk // 02:48, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and sorry, but I don't wish to comment there anymore. However, that seems like a fair idea, and you did calculate it correctly. iMatthew // talk // 03:10, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure, but I'd say no to the importance point. iMatthew // talk // 13:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
D.M.N. already nominated it, right? I'm not sure. The newsletter looks fine, I guess. Looks just like another newsletter I know of, going out later today. iMatthew // talk // 14:28, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Professional wrestling newsletter

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Twinkle

I installed it. It's so....powerful. Damn. This is gonna help me a lot. Simon \\ KSK Yes we can! 02:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

At first, no. But, then it looks kinda better. Besides, this is a temp sig. When Tuesday is over, I'm going back to my old sig. I can't wait either. Simon \\ KSK Yes we can! 02:14, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:

Ravens lost. :) Anyways, the list looks good. Like I've said, you're a pro at that stuff. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:52, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Done. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:11, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Images look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:24, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
... and thank you for wanting me to take part of this list. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:03, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I'm just glad you want me to work with you. Cause, its an honor, one hell of an honor, to work with ya. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:36, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
One more thing.... I'm not sucking up... because if I were... I couldn't say... haha... on the Ravens loss. :P --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:41, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey, don't forget you were rooting for them last year. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:42, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Nope, I wasn't rooting for anybody. Except for the Eagles; they beat the Giants from advancing, which made my day. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:58, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Yup. ;) So, did you happen to watch history in the making? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:03, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
By your backyard? How close is Maryland to Washington D.C.? Anyways, yeah I saw the part when Bush got booed, but when Barack Obama was doing his speech, he mentioned Bush and the people didn't boo him, instead they cheered for him, which I thought was weird. But, did you see the part where people were singing "Na Na Na Hey Hey Hey Goodbye"? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:11, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't know that, but know I do. So, funny. :) Hey, by any chance, do you watch Countdown with Keith Olbermann? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
No, I was just wondering. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter

DYK nomination of NWA Hall of Fame

Hello! Your submission of NWA Hall of Fame at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Shubinator (talk) 00:43, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

WWE Raw

Please do not revert again. We don't update the count until after it airs, and definitely not before the show even starts. TJ Spyke 01:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

It's the other way around. We used to update it as soon as it started (I know, I was the one who always updated it). Since I returned last month though I have noticed that the count for the shows isn't updated until after the show is over. Either is fine with me, but it definitely shouldn't be updated before the show even starts. TJ Spyke 02:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Waiting on reply. I set the chart up in a certain way that you have to read it to understand it.Mitch32(Go Syracuse) 02:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of Virtual Boy games needs a revisit from you. The lead has been expanded further and summarizes the list more. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:45, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Heh, I just don't like to see all that work from the contributors go to waste! Dabomb87 (talk) 01:52, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of WCW Hall of Fame

Hello! Your submission of WCW Hall of Fame at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Shubinator (talk) 22:42, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

A.F.C. Sudbury

Hi. Thanks for going through this article. I must, however, disagree about your comments regarding commas, for instance:

* At the time of A.F.C. Sudbury's formation the ground consisted of two pitches, a training area, clubhouse, floodlights, a 200-seat stand on the West side of the main pitch and covered ends behind the goals. - comma after formation

I'm not sure why you feel a comma is necessary in this case. More importantly, though, I'm not sure where I would air such a disagreement. I'll get on with addressing some other issues in the meanwhile. Cheers. Dancarney (talk) 22:45, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

re:Ched Davis

Hey there,
I'm Ched, thanks for having my back - that all happened faster than I could keep up with. Appreciate it. Guess I owe ya one now ;). (well, maybe two - I'm kinda from Pittsburgh .. (cringe) ... LOL.) Thanks again, I appreciate it. Hope you enjoy all the celebrating going on over there. Ched (talk) 02:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

WWE roster

Hello, I see that you've been editing WWE roster, is this just me or is this page blocked? Fiddler96 (talk) 16:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Steve Morrison GAC

I have responded to your review. Thanks for taking the time with the article.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 08:04, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

I apologize, but I found a lot of stuff in a Detroit Free Press search today after you passed the article. You may want to have another look at it and see if anything stands out.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
The information you request can be found in the history tab. Click the cur link next to an edit you want to use as the basis for all recent changes. It will show an aggregate change diff for changes since that edit.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:46, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
I think it is safe to assume that you passed it at 21:34 after you made the cleanup edits. All edits after yours are my late revisions. Does that help? here is the diff.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Fighting Spirit/WWE memo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_SmackDown_vs._Raw_2009 Generally, published source material can be used even without an online link. Nevertheless, I've supplied four additional online ref's, each from a reliable source that is already being cited on hundreds of other Wikipages. I hope this satisfies your very legitimate concerns about upholding guidelines and proper sourcing. Thanks!208.120.7.152 (talk) 12:40, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Fiona Apple

Hi there! You reviewed the article I created, List of awards and nominations received by Rufus Wainwright, when I nominated it for FL status. I am currently working on a similar list for Fiona Apple. Here is a link to peer review, after which I will be attempting to get the list FL status as well. If you have a few minutes, I would appreciated any suggestions you may have. If not, thanks again for your help with the Wainwright awards list. Best wishes! -Whataworld06 (talk) 03:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much! No rush, I just figured you might enjoy the music awards lists, so I thought I'd let you know I am currently looking for peer review and eventually FLC status for the article. Much appreciated! -Whataworld06 (talk) 03:53, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks again! I appreciate your assistance, and will look at the review momentarily. -Whataworld06 (talk) 22:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Regarding your question about source-checking: See User:Ealdgyth/FAC cheatsheet. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:49, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Truco, I have made many adjustments to the article based on your suggestions. Best wishes! -Whataworld06 (talk) 02:27, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I am not certain I understand what you mean by summarizing the list a bit more. I mentioned a few recognitions associated with her debut album, then gave a list of all the various nominations she has received (including the number of nominations for each). In no way am I taking offense or stating I am not willing to add more (I am!), I am just not sure to expand it further. Any suggestion? THANK YOU again for all your assistance. Hopefully this article will not have difficulty reaching FL status. -Whataworld06 (talk) 03:24, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Gotcha. Thanks for the link. I added two more sentences--hopefully this helps! -Whataworld06 (talk) 03:56, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

The beer money article.

I'm done with it. I tried to do the best I could: User:SimonKSK/BMI. SimonKSK 03:07, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I didn't say that I'm moving it in, right now. I'm waiting for more stuff to put in. Yeah, I know, it's a start article, but soon, it will get better. SimonKSK 03:26, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Let me correct myself. I'm done with it for now. Happy? It wouldn't be bad if you could find results for the June 12, 2008 TNA results, ya know. *wink**wink**nudge**nudge*:) SimonKSK 03:30, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Me neither, and I was using PWTorch for archives. But I'll try Wrestleview. SimonKSK 03:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
If I were you I would use PWTorch mainly since it is more reliable than WrestleView. PWtorch has results all the way back to 2004 for Impact. It is just difficult to fine them. I'll help find them if you wish.--WillC 05:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Sadly, I already did. :P SimonKSK 17:26, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Record Charts

I'd like to invite you to join the newly formed Record Charts WikiProject. There are a lot of Record-Chart-related articles on Wikipedia that require attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help us get this project off the ground and a few Record Chart pages into the front ranks of Wikipedia articles. Thanks!

--Efe (talk) 07:27, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

The Last Castle needs your review

I have posted The Last Castle movie up for review. If u have some time I would be really grateful if u review it, because u seem to be a realy great reviewer like ur review of List of awards and nominations received by Fiona Apple. The review is listed on Wikipedia:Peer review/The Last Castle/archive1.

Thanks a lot--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 16:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Got some pics.

I took some pics of TNA iMPACT! All of them are free, and were taken by me.
File:Scott 2009.JPG

File:Pete 2009.JPG

File:Booker T 2009.JPG

File:Eric 2009.JPG

File:Kurt Angle AJ Styles.JPG

File:Pete Scott.JPG Enjoy. SimonKSK 17:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Hall of Fame articles

You've done a great job with the WCW and NWA Hall of Fame lists. I was wondering if you plan on continuing with wrestling's other Halls of Fame. They could all use some cleanup. I'm sure the Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame and Museum article could be expanded enough to qualify for a DYK. Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame needs some cleanup and formatting, and there is currently no article for the George Tragos/Lou Thesz Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame. The reason that I'm asking is that George Tragos is next on my list for articles to expand, and I thought it would make sense to create an article/list for the Tragos/Thesz Hall as well. That got me thinking about the possibility of a Featured Topic if the HOFs could all get to FL status. If you're not planning on working on the other HOFs, I might make that my new project. If you are, feel free to get in touch for any help. I don't mind writing prose, and I'm sure the list of 1996 WON inductees (and compiling a list of their most relevant accomplishments) is a bit of an intimidating task. GaryColemanFan (talk) 19:30, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

The website for the Tragos/Thesz Hall of Fame is http://www.wrestlingmuseum.org/gtlthof.html. It is an actual building, and it has been discussed on SLAM! Wrestling and the Cauliflower Alley Club website. The building was damaged in a flood a couple of years ago, so it got some coverage there as well. There is also an NWA Legends Hall of Heroes (http://www.midatlanticgateway.com/hoh/heroes2.htm), which has an induction ceremony every year and has also been discussed on SLAM! Wrestling. I'm not sure if it's a hall of fame in the same sense (especially since there is already an NWA Hall of Fame), but it seems to have some notability. GaryColemanFan (talk) 20:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

World Tag Team Championship

I don't really know why, but although defended on Raw it's Ecw gold, for on wwe.com that's where they have it listed; on Ecw.  ←Kalajan→  22:18, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Amy Winehouse

FYI - If you happen to have more time and would be interested in another peer review (my last one for a while!) you are welcome to view the peer review for List of awards and nominations received by Amy Winehouse. If you are not interested, thanks again for your assistance with the Fiona Apple list! -Whataworld06 (talk) 05:13, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey

Hey, I'm back. Save Us.Y2J 5:59 January 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, have you worked on any particular articles lately? Save Us.Y2J 9:50 January 26, 2009 (UTC)

Just a couple of lists, but nothing else.--TRUCO 22:59, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

It's about time NM 07 got to GA status, I'm now working on Survivor Series 05. Save Us.Y2J 10:06 January 26, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I will, thanks for letting me know, and you can help me with Survivor Series if you want to (you don't have to, but you can if you want to). Save Us.Y2J 10:20 January 26, 2009 (UTC)

Are you watching the Royal Rumble? Save Us.Y2J 10:28 January 26, 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter

17:37, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

RR 2009

Where was it agreed not to use colors? Featured lists like List of Super Bowl champions use them, so that is not a reason not to use them. I agree that they shouldn't be added until after the match ends though. TJ Spyke 02:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Civility

Edit summaries like this and this are unnecessary. I understand it's frustrating (I've been there myself), but we have to have a little patience with those who aren't as technically proficient at editing as yourself. Incidentally, watch for 3RR on Matt Hardy, as you've made three reverts in the last hour. ♥NiciVampireHeart♥ 04:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

This too is highly uncalled for. ♥NiciVampireHeart♥ 04:19, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Still, accusing someone of stalking you is uncalled for. ♥NiciVampireHeart♥ 01:14, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
If you say so. ♥NiciVampireHeart♥ 01:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

If you knew how to read, or at least watch a video, you would be able to see that Howard Finkel, HBK, and Bret Hart have been confirmed for the new WWE game. Stop screwing up the wiki page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jason830 (talkcontribs) 04:23, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Piper and Warrior were shown in the video at the Royal Rumble, so they should be listed in the roster section. Next time, don't assume people are out to ruin the article. It's not unsourced, when it's shown at a WWE event! RobJ1981 (talk) 06:59, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I reworked the lead as well as played with some things in the lists. If you take a quick look I'd really appreciate it. Thanks! --TorsodogTalk 19:44, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: GT

Hey, man. Listen, I'm gonna have to turn down your offer, cause I'm really busy and I don't think I'll have time to work on the article, just taking a glance at it it seems a lot of work has to be done. Also, have you been stressed out as well? Meaning your edits and stuff. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:28, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I know how you feel, I've has my experience. I mean, it would be a good article to work and get a GT out of it, is just that I don't have time. Maybe, after our "stress" goes down, we could give it a shot. :) Also, I've replied. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

3RR

Watch out, you're on your third revert at WWE One Night Stand. -- Scorpion0422 02:27, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Full protection for WWE One Night Stand

Done. Cheers, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 02:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Glad to help. :) –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 02:56, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm doing some work on fixing up this article/list. I found the list of 2008 inductees, so I created a table for the inductees and their relevant accomplishments (titles defended in or recognized in St. Louis). Could you take a look at what I've done when you have a chance? You're much more experienced with tables and Featured Lists than I am, so I would appreciate your feedback and any help you can provide. You mentioned that you're busy this week, so there's no rush. My version is at User:GaryColemanFan/Murphy (I've just got the table done, and I'll be expanding the prose with reliable sources as I have time). And if you're just too busy, don't worry about it. Thanks, GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I finished up the initial work on the article, and I moved it into the mainspace. I have no idea how to get Dick the Bruiser to sort properly, though. If you have time, could you take a look at it? Thanks, GaryColemanFan (talk) 15:26, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: TFA

Yeah... that one would probably have better luck, plus its the 10th anniversary as well. D.M.N. (talk) 17:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I couldn't have said it better myself. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:43, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
TBH, no. I still have that fear that I'll be criticized for maybe bring up something that really doesn't need fixing or criticized for something else. Believe me, this is how I am when it comes to reviewing articles at GAN. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:06, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
I know, its a stupid thing to fall back on, but that's how I go by. I know and I congratulate you on your hard work regarding the reviews of the lists. Who knows, there might be a list that will catch my eye and you'll see me review it. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
It will; all it needs is a good user who nominates a good list. :P --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Sure, you too. But, not involving wrestling, don't want to start a conflict. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Exactly. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Does ThinkBlue not know how to create Level 2 headers? Anyhow, I removed No Way Out from the TFA page. D.M.N. (talk) 16:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes. D.M.N. (talk) 17:03, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I have completed all of the things you added here. Thanks,   jj137 (talk) 22:34, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey

Hey, I just wanted to ask you a question, but why doesn't anyone like me? Save Us.Y2J 11:25, January 26 2009 (UTC)

K, I get it now, thanks for the advice man, I really appreciate it. Save Us.Y2J 11:55, January 26 2009 (UTC)

Are you busy?, I just need someone to talk to, but if you are, I'll leave you alone and talk to you some other time. Save Us.Y2J 12:00, January 28 2009 (UTC)

Were you shocked to see Matt turn of Jeff at the Royal Rumble? Save Us.Y2J 11:52, January 29 2009 (UTC)

BARNSTAR!

The Reviewers Award The Reviewers Award
This barnstar is given to you because of your ability to review any kind of list, and having the potential to review many more. Cheers and happy editing. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 anyone? 05:39, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

A very trivial topic

But I was looking at the WT:PW page, and I noticed a few threads you started were asking for Support/Oppose/Comments. I think you know that consensus can not be built with voting and straw polls. It needs to be formed through discussion. Remember, polls are evil and should be used as a last resort. iMatthew // talk // 00:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, well in the future, even if it's the 42nd discussion about it, discuss it first, take an evil poll later. iMatthew // talk // 01:13, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
You did it again at the FLC talk page. :-/ iMatthew // talk // 15:42, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Yep

Sigh, I am leaning that way. He's been a great editor and really helped out with pictures, but sometimes tough decisions have to be made (like when WWE released Kurt Angle for medical reasons). I honestly think that when the full protection expires he will once again start disrupting those pages. TJ Spyke 02:47, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

OK, I will probably comment on the report. BTW, I don't like the Steelers either and will be rooting for the Cardinals on Sunday. TJ Spyke 02:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I am reviewing your article, Survivor Series (2007), for GA and have left some comments at Talk:Survivor Series (2007)/GA1. The article is in good shape, with only some dead links needing to be addressed. Also, none of the titles to references should be in all caps. Please contact me if you have questions or comments. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 19:03, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Do you think you could write a nice lead for this article? iMatthew // talk // 12:39, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and thanks for your comments, I'm done here. iMatthew // talk // 12:54, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Nope, but Moe has revamped it, and it could use a nice new lead. But, GAH! I cannot for my life, fine a decent ice hockey list to work on. iMatthew // talk // 16:01, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Football? Hell no! But thanks. ;-) iMatthew // talk // 16:26, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, can you comment on this FLC. Thanks, 16:38, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Just ignore him. I'm not getting involved in a silly fight. iMatthew // talk // 21:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Err, I seem to remember another instance of opposing based on a personal dislike...But let's not go there. :-/ iMatthew // talk // 21:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
I let that go a while ago. But you're complaining about somebody doing something that you have done before, so it's just....eh. Forgetting this conversation is the best solution. iMatthew // talk // 22:00, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I am reviewing your article, World Heavyweight Championship (WWE), for GA and have added a few comments at Talk:World Heavyweight Championship (WWE)/GA1. It is a little hard to follow for the general reader, so I added some headings and subheading for clarity - hopefully ok with you. If not, please feel free to change as you see fit. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 21:17, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

If you're able to do some copyediting, that would be great. I would like to submit it to FLC in the future, so any help is appreciated. I've also started to work on the Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame list. It's going to take quite a while just to get through the first year of inductions, though. I've got it going here. Since you're working on hall of fame articles and some of our research will overlap, feel free to copy any of the information/references if it will help. There's certainly no point in both of us spending half an hour looking for reliable sources on Dick Beyer. GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the copyedit and the suggestions. I'll get to work on them soon. I wasn't sure about Kayfabe Memories. On their "About Us" page [2], it says that they've got a staff of writers, so there's definitely some editorial control. It's also been acknowledged by many people in the industry as a good and reliable site at the bottom of the middle column here and here. I don't know that it would hold up at FLC, though, so I'll see if MPJ-DK can find anything in his Wrestling Title Histories book. I'm also not sure about the Harley Race site. When I first looked it over, it seemed like Race was involved. I just checked again, and he might have just provided pictures. As for my comment about copying the information and references, I was probably just tired when I typed that. I meant that if you move on to work on something like the Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame and Museum article, you should feel free to copy anything from the list I'm working on. For example, Beyer is in the PWHOF, and I've already finished his entry on the WONHOF page, so there's no need for you to search for information about him when you could just copy his entry from the page I'm working on. GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Newsletter

I don't really see it as differentiating views. Facts are when the DYKs are in two columns, some of the words get covered up on my screen, and the theme song isn't notable. It wasn't last year, and it hasn't been for any other pay-per-view. ♥NiciVampireHeart♥ 14:48, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I disagree. I know WM is important and the biggest wrestling event of the year, but I simply don't see how the theme song is notable enough to warrant a mention along side news of championship winners, a return from injury and an announced television deal. Theme songs aren't all that important, whether they're the WM ones or not. ♥NiciVampireHeart♥ 15:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
No, there's not really, but I think that it's always been understood that only notable news goes in the newsletter, that title changes, injuries, returns, etc. I really don't see theme songs as being along the same lines as the above. ♥NiciVampireHeart♥ 15:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Sure. :) ♥NiciVampireHeart♥ 15:32, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Twinkle

Be more careful when you use this. You reverted vandalism on the Raw and SmackDown pages with this. The problem though was that you reverted to versions that also had vandalism (like here [3]). What I do is check the page history first, I only use Twinkle if there is only 1 user who vandalized. TJ Spyke 16:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Professional wrestling newsletter

Delivered: 16:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC) by MiszaBot (talk)

Error in PW newsletter

Hi, I don't think you know me but I think I've found an error in the WP:PW newsletter. I'm just saying thing because, at the end of the newsletter, it says this:

{{col-end}} |} |} <div style="float:right; font-size:60%;">Delivered: 16:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC) by [[User:MiszaBot|MiszaBot]] ([[User talk:MiszaBot|talk]])</div>

I think it should've been this:

{{col-end}} |} |} <div style="float:right; font-size:60%;">Delivered: 16:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC) by [[User:MiszaBot|MiszaBot]] ([[User talk:MiszaBot|talk]])</div>

Because if not, all the messages sent to users appear inside the newsletter. Hope I helped, I allready fixed it on your page and on a few more. CFountain (talk) 19:32, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

By the way I fixed it for the next edition too. CFountain (talk) 19:55, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Thing is, there are about 250 user in the WP:PW aren't there? Well there must be a problem there, because now all their messages will appear inside the newsletter, and if they don't realize, they won't see their messages. Ps. if you need any help in the next edition ask me, I'll help you without any problem, if I'm capable of doing it. CFountain (talk) 20:57, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I changed the design, making it Red-Blue-White, but anyway, what I was gonna say was ¿Is wrestlingtruth.com reliable?--CFountain (talk) 21:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh sorry, I'm new and didn't know about the consensus thing, anyway, if you need any other help inside the newsletter, any news... anything, ask me, although I doubt you'll need help--CFountain (talk) 21:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Not really technical =) I can find out about inside news and stuff. Anyway, happy editing! CFountain (talk) 21:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh, btw. What should we do about the error I found, cos now all the users that recieved it won't be able to read further messages unless they open the newsletter, and if they're not warned they won't be able to answer peoples messages--CFountain (talk) 22:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Yah of course anyway I already changed it for the next newsletter, but, thing is, should we put up a notice on the WP:PW page or something. I find it necesary that people know how to deal it. CFountain (talk) 22:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
No, maybe you understood wrong. The messages - even if they belong to other sections - appear inside the newsletter, and when you click on the link at the top of your user talk page, your computer starts to lag and nothing happens. CFountain (talk) 22:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of football (in the thread yesturday)

Stop by User:IMatthew/Super Bowl, will ya? :P iMatthew // talk // 21:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

...

17-7, Steelers. Damn it. Come on Cardinals! GO! SimonKSK 00:58, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I know! I tried to explain it to my mom, but she doesn't care... SimonKSK 01:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
She said that it doesn't look big on the TV. *Sigh* SimonKSK 01:16, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
OMG! Fitzgerald scored! 23-20! W00t! SimonKSK 02:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm not gonna say anything. I'm sad. :( SimonKSK 20:25, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

WWE

The history in the article WWE says I changed a lot between your and my version. Something must be seriously wrong with Wikipedia. I only changed "As of late 2008 ECW is taped before the live showing on RAW and the aired the next day." into "As of late 2008 ECW is taped before the live showing on RAW and then aired the next day." (spelling correction being the 'n') Sorry for any inconvenience DukeTwicep (talk) 04:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Discussion at WikiProject Record Charts

Please see this discussion and provide your opinion on proposed page moves. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 01:26, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah, sorry. I was just leaving messages at everybody's talk pages of the WP, I didn't really pay attention to who they were. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:37, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

FLC type review

Hi, firstly many thanks for reviewing my Sports Personality of the Year lists that are or have been at FLC. I was wondering if you could do a FLC type review for BBC Sports Personality of the Year Unsung Hero Award. As it doesn't meet the unwritten 10 item criteria for lists, it needs an audit for its inclusion in a topic. So would it be possible do this at its peer review. Many thanks, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 13:40, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. I have addressed or replied to all your comments, and I was wondering if you could revisit them, reply to any comments and state if the changes I have made are acceptable. Many thanks, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 11:47, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Ask around at WP:PW for a review, or this might fail for lack of reviews. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

BTW, Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/2008 World Series of Poker results needs a revisit. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:02, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I was coming by to mention this as well, I was looking for some guidance on one of your bullets, but the rest are done.---Balloonman PoppaBalloon 19:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

The WPVG Newsletter (January 2009)

  • Newsletter delivery by xenobot 00:23, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Rufus Wainwright discography

Hi there, and thank you again so much for your assistance with the FL nomination process. This is terribly embarrassing, but I cannot figure out how to add an emdash to the blank certification fields, as requested. If you are aware of how to do this easily, be my guest. I believe I have addressed all other concerns raised and suggestions made. I did have one additional question regarding referencing (if Amazon could be used for track list verification), and another regarding a compilation compiled by Wainwright. Feel free to take a look at the FL nomination entry again for details. Thanks again! -Whataworld06 (talk) 02:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I believe everything has been corrected, as requested. I was able to figure out the emdashes on the table. I believe the only outstanding concern is the lack of reference for Eklektikos Live. I know the track appears on the album, but I simply cannot find verification online. Shall I just remove it from the list? -Whataworld06 (talk) 03:30, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi there. I hate to bring you back to this article, but someone has opposed this list obtaining FL status b/c it is over-referenced, so we are currently debating how the entries on the list should best be references (Allmusic, Billboard, more general sources vs. specifics, etc.) IF you have time and may be able to provide another point of view on the issue, it would be much appreciated. I am not asking you to take my side. I am more than willing to edit the article, but I would like more suggestions and points of view on this issue before editing the article based on one opposition/criticism. If you have other things to worry about, no prob! I just thought you might be interested since you already supported the FL nomination. Thanks. -Whataworld06 (talk) 20:05, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

How about next time, before you do something like redirect a template, why don't you wait for a damn response. Crash Underride 18:19, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I meant to work on it. I HAD in it, a place for a wrestler's birth name, for cases such as Stone Cold Steve Austin. Crash Underride 17:31, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Need of your help

I couldn't really call that a consensus, as there were about as many editors voting to wait as there were to change. Thus, I can't justify moving the article back, but I'll look into protecting it to prevent move-warring. Cheers, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:51, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for letting me know. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 22:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Mshake

He was doing edits that he knew caused the article to be fully protected just a couple of weeks ago and was going against the established consensus knowing he was being disruptive, IMO that is vandalism. TJ Spyke 03:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Most of the comments were solved. Nergaal (talk) 01:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Replaced all refs. igordebraga 00:34, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • How is the present state of the list? Thanks! Nergaal (talk) 23:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Backlash (2006)

I will help work on the article, but I was nominating it because Save Us Y2J asked me to. How do you do a co-nomination? TJ Spyke 02:29, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey man

Hey man, are you mad at me for not trying my hardest at Backlash (2006), and can you tell me the major errors I've done. Thanks. Save Us.Y2J 1:57, 7 Feburary 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, you have a good point. Anyway, do you think it will pass FA? Save Us.Y2J 2:29, 7 Feburary 2009 (UTC)

Talk page

Ask yourself and access the situation. For the past two weeks, editors who didn't know how to use the sortable feature have, even openly, admitted that they didn't read what was said on the talk page. So if they didn't read what I was saying about the sortable table feature, what makes you think they are going to know how to work it with a hidden notice mixed in with unfamiliar wiki markup language? — Moe ε 03:50, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I didn't plan on leaving the notice up there for long, I wanted to leave it up there for those who frequently visit the article so they know that the tables are sortable now. After people stop asking how to change it back to chronological order, then I'll remove it. About WP:OWN, you're looking way too into it. Authors and contributors on the Wikipedia level are virtually the same thing; I am not going to argue the semantics of what you thought I meant. — Moe ε 04:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure. If someone else wanted to nominate it once I am finished, I wouldn't mind. However, I don't personally involve myself much in the process of how something is rated on scales of its importance or how "good" it is. I've never liked the idea of having articles rated, so I let other editors decide on that. — Moe ε 04:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I feel like I've addressed everything you questioned. Thought I'd give a heads up. conman33 (. . .talk) 06:33, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I've had trouble trying to make just the "Seasons" section of the table on this article to be formatted as sortable. How do I do it? Thanks for help.conman33 (. . .talk) 05:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Scratch that. I got the answer. I think I've resolved everything you've asked for. conman33 (. . .talk) 05:24, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

List of number-one singles from the 2000s (UK)

Thanks for the FL review. I have addressed nearly all of them and have indicated on the review page a couple of things I was unsure about. Can you check the review page to explain these. Should I move the page to List of number one singles from the 2000s (UK), although this would mean doing the same for the other decades? 03md (talk) 19:38, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi there, I have moved the page and responded to all your comments on the review page.
I have addressed all your points on the talk page and moved each of the other decade articles. 03md (talk) 08:50, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

FLC help

Hello! I have done some tweaking to List of Adelaide Football Club coaches, and I was hoping that you could have a quick look and give me some feedback regarding FL status. Tables in wikimarkup aren't my strong point so any help would be appreciated. Hope to hear from you. » \ / () 21:53, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Nah! That's fine. I was bored so I did a little fiddling. Not really gunning for FLC, more an optimistic inquiry. Thanks! :) » \ / () 22:03, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I just finished the review. There are quite a few source concerns (in addition to the usual prose glitches), so you may want to revisit. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:11, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Truco

I notice that you placed this on hold "for seven days" on 20 January. As it's now 8 February, any chance you could revisit and confirm if the points you raised have been dealt with to your satisfcation?

Cheers! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 22:17, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

FLC preload

Alright. Here is the page, here is the diff where Gimmetrow added the preload. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:39, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

What is the FLC talk template? Dabomb87 (talk) 16:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Gary King just created the template. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:55, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter

20:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Delivered by J Milburn, on behalf of the judges. 20:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Question re: Internet Movie Database (imdb.com)

Hi there, just thought I would ask you a quick question. Is IMDb.com generally considered a reliable source? I would love to use this link as a source citing awards and nominations for Danny Elfman. I know you are involved with many peer and FLC reviews, so you may some insight on the matter. If you are not sure, no prob! Just thought I'd ask. Best wishes! -Whataworld06 (talk) 21:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! -Whataworld06 (talk) 22:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

iDon / Project Reggaeton help!

Hey Truco, remember me? I'm not sure if you are still involved with editing article relating to reggaeton, but I have just recently started the article for Don Omar's new studio album iDon and I have a good amount of information so far. However I'm going to need help. I was the only one who was involved in what is on the article and I'm trying to make it so this article can some day reach Good Article status. So if you can, I'd really appreciate it. And Don Omar is one of the most well-known names in the reggaeton world, and this new album IS a big deal. El cangri386 Sign! or Talk 03:02, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I have actually looked at some Good Article rated pages, but there's not enough information so far ('cause not a lot of news was published! lol). I would've thought that on an album such as iDon, there would have been at least a few Project Reggaeton editors working on it, but I've been the only one so far :/. And considering you've helped get a few articles reach featured article status, maybe you could help out with this one as well? I'll see if I can get the attention of other editors as well, of course. El cangri386 Sign! or Talk 03:13, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
And most of the information I found came mostly from Wikiton.net. I'm mainly depending on this site for the information regarding the album, but I'm also searching on other sites as well. El cangri386 Sign! or Talk 03:26, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Stop screwing with the Legends of Wrestlemania page. We can post roster details that are confirmed. Stop being a tough guy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jason830 (talkcontribs) 16:35, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

RE:

Yeah, I know. I'm kinda caught at the moment, so I didn't know what I was doing until after I clicked it. But, BTW, he did it 3 times, already and we informed him about it. So, I think by now, it would be considered vandalism by him. Whatever. Sorry. SimonKSK 23:26, 9 February 2009 (UTC)