Wikipedia:Bot owners' noticeboard

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  (Redirected from Wikipedia:BOWN)
Jump to: navigation, search

This is a message board for coordinating and discussing bot-related issues on Wikipedia (also including other programs interacting with the MediaWiki software). Although its target audience is bot owners, any user is welcome to leave a message or join the discussion here. This is not the place for requests for bot approvals or requesting that tasks be done by a bot. It is also not the place for general questions about the MediaWiki software (such as the use of templates, etc.), which have generally a best chance of being answered at WP:VPT.

User:Citation bot[edit]

I've just blocked this bot for blanking numerous articles. The owner Smith609 does not seem to be around much. Next step? --NeilN talk to me 03:54, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

The owner sometimes responds to e-mail messages. It would be great if there were someone active who could take over this bot. I think Smith609 is too busy with real life. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:01, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
The code resides on Google Code, so the first task will be moving it, presumably to GitHub? I asked here for a relief operator years ago, to no avail. Given the importance of this bot to wp:V, perhaps it is something to which the WMF should dedicate some resources. LeadSongDog come howl! 01:30, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
I can have a look at this. I can't make any guarantees though. I'm suggesting this because I am working on a bot the works on archiving citations and rescuing dead links.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyberpower678 (talkcontribs) 05:59, 22 June 2015‎ (UTC)
Thank you for looking into it. It's a high value activity, directly supporting wp:V, but has been in need of attention for a while now. The bot's talk page can be a busy place.LeadSongDog come howl! 13:19, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
I've copied the repo over to my GitHub account located here.—cyberpowerChat:Limited Access 03:35, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
This code is going to take some time to study.—cyberpowerChat:Limited Access 02:33, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Reminder: Everything's scheduled to break this week[edit]

You know that I exaggerate, but the long-awaited "rawcontinue" change (see /Archive 9#API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month) starts tomorrow (Tuesday) with test wikis and there's a leap second tomorrow at 23:59:60 UTC, and that's all in addition to the normal development train and any remaining fallout about HTTPS. If you run into problems during the next couple of days, then knowing exactly when the problem started may be especially useful for debugging. I'll be watching VPT, but you may get more useful responses on IRC if anything goes wrong. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 22:27, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

All AWB bots should upgrade to version or later. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:53, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Jietse's bot[edit]

Jitse's bot (talk · contribs) has stopped working. It’s actually not been working reliably for a number of months; see its talk page for previous incidents. but it has now stopped altogether, as of two weeks ago. I did not notice sooner as I missed its daily updates dropping off my watchlist.

Unfortunately its owner Jitse Niesen (talk · contribs) seems inactive. Despite pings and at least one e-mail he has not responded to queries about previous problems and has not noticed the current hiatus which I would think he would spot if at all active. Absent being able to contact him to restart it I don't know if anyone else is able to; it is hopefully something simple.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 18:53, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

I have now ascertained that Jitse Niesen is aware of the situation and will probably look at it within a couple of days. Michael Hardy (talk) 03:56, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
It's over a week now and nothing has been done. Can you say anything more about what he said or wrote about looking at it?--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 02:26, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

JohnBlackburne as far as I can see, this account has no bot flag. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:43, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

I do not know the importance of that, nor if it is important why it is has none. I imagine it was just overlooked as Jitse Niesen is an admin who could have added it himself, and it certainly is a bot.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 13:17, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Sysops don't have the ability to add bot flags. Only Bureaucrats can do that. As for the importance of bot flags, it grants the bot account the ability to run faster on Wikipedia and not flood recent changes with bot edits, or watch lists for that matter.—cyberpowerChat:Online 13:24, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I did not realise admins could not set the bot flag. And now you mention it I know of and occasionally use the watchlist filtering function, and can see to how it would allow bots to run faster/automated edits without them being flagged or objected to. But neither use would be much use for this bot. It makes normally three edits a day, to three pages that only it edits. Editors who don’t want to see its edits can not watch those three pages; almost certainly anyone seeing its edits on their watchlist has manually added one or more of those pages.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 23:18, 25 July 2015 (UTC)



Should we indef block Svenbot until Sven Manguard becomes active again? Bot has not edited for 1.5 years and he left a message in January 2015 that he is leaving Wikipedia permanently. If he returns we can unblock the bot immediately. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:29, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Are bots of retired users routinely blocked? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:57, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes, for security reasons. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:50, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Jo-Jo Eumerus see for instance: Wikipedia:Bot_owners'_noticeboard/Archive_9#Bot_that_are_inactive_for_the_last_2-4_years_and_may_lose_bot_flag -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:51, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Addshore if we follow the same routine we did last year, Svenbot should certainly be deflagged. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:54, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

I have removed the bot flag. ·addshore· talk to me! 11:56, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

OK. I think deflagging is enough. No reason to block. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:58, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Got it. I'd recommend to notify Sven on their talkpage once done, so they know why/that it happened when they get back. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 12:00, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
This message is linked to in the rights log. ·addshore· talk to me! 12:05, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
I left Sven a message in his talk page too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:07, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Lovely teamwork! :) ·addshore· talk to me! 12:11, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Request for comment: Bot flags and bureaucrats[edit]


Should we remove the bot flagging ability from bureaucrats and add it to a newly created a BAG user group? Σσς(Sigma) 07:21, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

This is a noticeboard for bot owners. Please move your RfC to WP:VPR or such. Legoktm (talk) 08:01, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

- or to the Bureaucrats' noticeboard. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:05, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Comment: If we were to do that the only thing left for the bureaucrats would be closing RfAs. As it stands, the bureaucrats are a dying breed, but we need them. Although there are 30 or so of them it's difficult to get more than a handful together for a 'crat chat in a reasonable time. What we need are more truly active bureaucrats. The only way we'll do this is to give them more to do, not less. By increasing their tasks, it would attract new candidates for 'cratship and prevent the group's ultimate extinction. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:05, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

The contents of this discussion have been copied to WP:VPR#Request for comment: Bot flags and bureaucrats. Σσς(Sigma) 08:46, 13 July 2015 (UTC)


DASHBot operated by Tim1357 is a toolserver bot and has ben blocked for more than 2 years. I think we should remove the bot flag. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:47, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@Addshore and Xeno:. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:59, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Yes check.svg Donexenotalk 10:28, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
@Xeno and Magioladitis: I noticed that DASHBot and three other bots are now appearing on Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits/1–1000. Could this be due to the work you're doing with inactive bots? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 01:18, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
GoingBatty Since they do not have a bot flag anymore, they are not considered as bots anymore. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:09, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
@GoingBatty: There's an exclusion list at Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits/Unflagged bots, and WereSpielChequers (talk · contribs) has added DASHBot, and I have added the other three to that list. What I did was look for usernames with "bot" (case-insensitive) in the latest version that weren't listed in that of 1 July 2015, so there may be others of two types: those that do not have "bot" in their names, and those that didn't make it onto the 1–1000 list (because they have fewer than 51,191 edits). --Redrose64 (talk) 09:18, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
thanks Redrose, I'm currently editing by iPad, so each edit is a bit of an undertaking. I usually check accounts containing bot on the list of active wikipedians, the user pages make it clear whether they are bots or not. I did one of the new bot entries but thought it better to get to a PC for subsequent edits. ϢereSpielChequers 09:40, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
@Redrose64 and WereSpielChequers: Thanks for reminding me about the list and adding the four former bots to the list. I looked at the remainder of the list and added 14 more. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 13:38, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Interwiki Bot that are inactive[edit]


@Xeno and Addshore:

The following bots have been inactive since February 2013 or earlier, they are interwiki bots (they survived the big bots cleanup because they were not listed as such!) and most probably have been broken after latest API changes. They match all the criteria for removing their flag.

Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 10:55, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: too. This is a list of interwiki bots. I l create another list of other "weird" cases of inactive bots. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:46, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

I left messages to all bot owners, exactly as we did last year. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:38, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Magioladitis, especially for leaving the notes. If there is no response in a few days we will withdraw the flags. –xenotalk 17:59, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
MahdiBot was buggy in any case. I kept coming across errors. All moot now - unless WikiData was mispopulated as a result --Redrose64 (talk) 19:15, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Magioladitis, we gave this a 10 day wait period for anyone to object last time. — xaosflux Talk 03:35, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done I went ahead and shortened the 10 days notice to, well, I guess 4.. All bots double checked and flags removed! If anyone suddely appears from the darkness requesting their flag back send them my way! (but I say this in the rights log anyway!) Thanks for the list again Magioladitis! ·addshore· talk to me! 20:22, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

@Addshore: Thanks. Since all these bots are interwiki bots can you please change their status from inactive to unapproved? You only have to change |status=. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:33, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

I marked all deflagged interwiki bots as unapproved. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:09, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

I would have been happy to but it would seem you have beaten me! :) ·addshore· talk to me! 10:18, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


@Xeno:: User:ZscoutBot was approved in 2012. The bot never edited, its creator, Zscout370 never replied and they are retired two years now. I suggest that we remove the bot flag. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:23, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Yes check.svg Donexenotalk 17:59, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

ChrisSalij Bot[edit]

@Addshore and Xeno: User:ChrisSalij Bot was approved back in 2010 and it was agreed the bot will be deflagged "6 months later". -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:14, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done ·addshore· talk to me! 17:00, 22 July 2015 (UTC)


@Addshore, Xaosflux, and Xeno: please remove flag from User:T13bot. Bot and bot owner were blocked for sockpuppeting. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:48, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Yes check.svg Donexenotalk 09:29, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


@Xeno: please deflag User:Simplebot. Editor and bot inactive since 2009. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:43, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Yes check.svg Donexenotalk 09:46, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


@Xeno, Addshore, and Chillum: I noticed that User:DustaBot does not have a bot flag while its redirect User:DusterBot has a bot flag. We should deflag DusterBot and flag DustaBot. @Chillum: Is your bot still operating? -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:41, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

I am not sure what happened with the flag. Regardless the bot is defunct, I have not ran it in years. Chillum 22:48, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
@Chillum: Probably under the move the flag did not move. Anyway, I think it's for the best that we remove the bot flags entirely and when you need the flag back you fill out a request. Thanks for the quick reply! Magioladitis (talk) 22:58, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done ·addshore· talk to me! 09:27, 25 July 2015 (UTC)


@Addshore, Xaosflux, and Xeno: JYBot operated by javadyou is a interwiki bot that I missed in the above list. We should remove the flag too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:56, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done ·addshore· talk to me! 10:17, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Contacting Legoktm[edit]

per this thread, I am unable to contact Legoktm. Thanks to Mdann52, we now have this pull request. can Magioladitis or someone who Legoktm responds to get Legoktm to apply this pull request? this will allow us to remove the duplicate args introduced in this edit. Frietjes (talk) 14:02, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

That's odd. I recently spoke to him on IRC. I can see if I can grab his attention.—cyberpowerChat:Online 15:31, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

per this thread, I am unable to contact Legoktm. Thanks to Mdann52, we now have this pull request. can Magioladitis or someone who Legoktm responds to get Legoktm to apply this pull request? this will allow us to remove the duplicate args introduced in this edit. Frietjes (talk) 16:30, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Frietjes Maybe it's time that we start taking over the various Legobot tasks? -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:07, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Magioladitis, that's possible, but you would probably want to block Legobot to make sure there isn't a conflict between the two bots, especially if Legobot only uses old code. Frietjes (talk) 17:10, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Frietjes Yes. I have this in mind. I only need Legogoktm's attention for 10 minutes before I take any action. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:12, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


@Addshore: CrimsonBot, was operated by retired Wikipedian CrimsonBlue. Both accounts are marked as retired since January 2013. Can you please remove the bot flag? -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:07, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done ·addshore· talk to me! 13:18, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

SporkBot malfunctioning on reference lists[edit]

I just spent two minutes scratching my head because SporkBot (talk · contribs) removed this reference that had a formatting error I was about to fix, meaning I was looking at the wikitext wondering "where's it gone"? Since the bot's owner, Plastikspork (talk · contribs) has retired, perhaps the bot should be shut down until this can be reviewed? A bot shouldn't revert good faith, even if badly formatted, edits like that. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:54, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

That's odd. The bot was apparently running when I turned on my desktop computer. I will disable this feature, and I will not run it again until the error is fixed. Thank you, and thanks to Alakzi for alerting me to this thread. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:25, 2 August 2015 (UTC)