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March 19

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does today sun esclspe will occure? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.2.190.6 (talk) 01:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

• Probably better to ask on the reference desk, this desk is for asking questions about wikipeida, the reference desk is better suited to answer general knowledge questions--VectorPotential^Talk 01:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

This question is easy to answer by browsing to the obvious Wikipedia article, and following some links. According to Solar eclipse: The last solar eclipse happened on March 19, 2007, while the next total solar eclipse will occur on August 1, 2008. The March 19 eclipse has a small entry in List of solar eclipses#21st century. The next eclipse promises to be more spectacular, and it has a nice article: Solar eclipse of 2008 August 1. --Teratornis 18:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Articles vs Talk/Discussion -

1. Why are there two terms for the same thing : Talk and Discussion ?

2. It is said that Articles are to be "encyclopedic" in content. Fine, seems OK.

However, what is the intended content for Talk/Discussion ?

Some users criticize certain Talk/Discussion postings, saying that "This is an encyclopedia not a forum for putting forth one's beliefs or opinions ..... ".

How could Talk/Discussion be "encyclopedic" in nature ? What would be left for the Article ? It seems to me that ANY discussion has to start with opinions or beliefs and be worked with an open mind toward consensus.

Am I confused or are they ? Allenwoll 01:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

In general, the overarching rule for discussion on talk pages is that it should relate to how to make the encyclopedia article better, or how to maintain it. Wikipedia is not a discussion forum, which means two things:

1. Discussing the subject of the article, rather than the article, is discouraged. For example, asking "Does anyone think that Bush is neo-conservative?" on Talk:George W. Bush is not as appropriate as asking "Should the article include the assertion that Bush is neo-conservative?"
2. Arguing about the subject of the article, rather than discussing the article. For example, stating "I think that communism is better than capitalism" on Talk:Communism is not a good idea, and such comments will generally be removed.

There's often a fine line between the two. Some related reading, if you're interesting in this, is WP:NOT#FORUM, WP:NPOV, WP:FRINGE. and WP:OR. Gracenotes^T § 01:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) Talk/discussion pages (there really is no difference) are for discussing the article, project, policy, proposal, etc. that the page is a talk page of. For example, Talk:God is for discussing the article God, resolving content disputes, suggestions for improvement, etc. It would not be for discussing opinions of God. It isn't really designed to be encyclopedic in its own right but to make the article more encyclopedic. Also, the talk page for a band is for discussing the article, not for gossipping about members of the band. See WP:TALK for more info. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 02:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Referring to item 1 in the original question, "talk" vs. "discussion": using two or more terms to refer to one feature in a system is an ergonomic design flaw I call synonym disease. Synonym disease makes learning the system more difficult for new users, whose first challenge is to learn the meanings of all the terms displayed by the system itself, used in its documentation, or mentioned by experienced users when they discuss the system. Technical writing handbooks stress the need to identify and define all the terms which have specific meaning with regard to a system. The converse of synonym disease is overloading, when a single term refers to more than one unrelated feature or action in a system. In a well-designed system, there is a one-to-one correspondence between terms and features. Every feature of the system has a distinct name, and each name refers to one feature. A third type of problem is the unnamed feature, a feature which is just there but has no name at all whereby people may refer to it. A skilled documenter will attempt to name all unnamed features, and negotiate with developers to introduce the names into the system. Since most developers are not documenters, the terminology they invent or accumulate as they develop systems may be to some extent accidental (that is, not guided by knowledge of ergonomic design principles), and as a result is not optimally learnable by new users. If documenters are regarded as equal members of the development team, they may be able to clean up instances of synonym disease, term overloading, and missing terms which almost invariably plague new system designs. The fact that the "talk"/"discussion" instance of synonym disease persists this late into MediaWiki's development (and, as far as I can tell, it persists unnecessarily) suggests that the MediaWiki development team has no member who understands what synonym disease is and why it is a problem, or the team has such a member whose advice is ignored. --Teratornis 19:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your helpful comment.

For an example of ongoing frightfully bad terminology, See "Renewable energy", "Talk/Discussion", "Whatever one calls it". Allenwoll 01:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium

You should check this page. At least on my computer the graphics looked to be in the wrong category. Emphasis on the GORY.

Regards,

<email removed>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.30.168.121 (talk) 02:08, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

It appears fine to me. What do you mean by "category"? Gracenotes^T § 02:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It was vandalized earlier today. See Special:Contributions/Alexneu0. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 02:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Conures

Hi,

I created an article about a month ago on Maroon-bellied conures, but yesterday I was informed that the picture I uploaded is no longer there, nor is the caption. This is a picture I took with my own camera, so I'm curious as to what happened to it, why, and when it will be put back.

74.117.70.17 06:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Did you place an image copyright tag on the image information when you uploaded it? If not, then the image is permanently deleted. Real96 08:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

• Actually, image deletion can now be undone I think. I can't find any evidence such an article existed. Are you sure you didn't misspell the article title? If I can find the article, I can figure out what happened to the image (provided you inserted it into the article after you uploaded). - Mgm|^(talk) 08:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

flagicon|Brazil

I frequently view pages containing lots of flagicons. Sometimes, all the flagicons display properly except for Brazil. Do you know any reason why that would be? Consider my sandbox - the first (UK) flagicon displays properly, but the second (Brazilian) one dies not. If I hover my mouse over the Brazilian flagicon, I get a popup box saying "imagepage preview failed :( Is the query.php extension installed?". Thanks. DH85868993 06:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

That has happened to me as well, but to other images. Are you using popups? It could be something due to that instead, as the picture is still fine when I click on it. –- kungming·2 ^(Talk) 06:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm using popups. DH85868993 07:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello, DH. It looks fine to me (I checked a few of my articles where I have used the Brazilian flag and they are okay). I noticed you use Brazil rather than BRA, though that should not make any difference as far as I know. Anyway, since it appears to display correctly for most users, I wouldn't worry about it. Adrian M. H. 18:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks. DH85868993 23:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I Interned/was a Congressional Aide and Was Wondering

I very briefly (read 1 week) did an unpaid internship for US Senator Mary Landrieu (I have never worked on her article, although I have made a comment on her talk page). I was wondering, is there a list of ISPs and known Wikipedia editors who have been on Congressional staffs, and have changed Congressional articles? Total number of such known editors? Also, did I break policy? Just wondering. Thanks. Zidel333 07:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Per the privacy policy, that information can not be released. Also, wikipedia is not a social network. Cheers! Real96 07:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

In reply to your second question: no, you haven't broken any Wikipolicy, because you haven't made any edits that could be considered conflicts of interest. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 09:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I was just curious about the information. Thanks for your help. Zidel333 15:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

By the way, Real96, you pipe external links with a space not a pipe. I've fixed it for you above. --ais523 15:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Is there a way

to access a random article within a given category? Just curious. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 08:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Unless you are talking about Special:Recent changes, I don't think so. Real96 08:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

This feature doesn't exist, but a request has been made to the developers that it be implemented: bugzilla:2170. The developers are generally very busy, so it's unlikely that it will be implemented any time soon. Hope that helps! --ais523 09:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It does; thanks. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 16:16, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Did you know Wikipedia has a table of contents?

There is a proposal at the Village pump to add it to Wikipedia's main menu.

The Transhumanist   09:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm embarrassed to say that I didn't know Wikipedia has a table of contents. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 09:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Entrtainment - March 12 & 13

What happened to the archive? These dates are missing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.100.3.92 (talk) 10:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

What archive? Entertainment's talk is located here here. Real96 10:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

This one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.100.3.92 (talk) 03:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC) .

Books

I'm trying to write the page for the book La colmena, is there some sort of template for articles on novels that I could base it around or am I best off basing it on a featured article? L.omahony 11:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

The best thing to do would be read the suggestions at Wikipedia:WikiProject Books, and use a featured article as a guide. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 11:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Saving Articles

To whoever it may concern.

I registered at Wikipedia because I find it the most useful encyclopedia ever. I would like to know if there is the possibilty to save articles and create a list of articles I read.

Thank you for your help.

Sarah Ferracini - Lily13sh Lily13sh 12:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It's not entirely obvious what you mean by 'save articles'; if you want to keep track of which articles you've read and changes to them, you could try using your watchlist. Although designed to track changes to a selection of pages and discussions about them, you can also use it as a list of pages you've read; click on 'watch' at the top of a page to watch it, and 'my watchlist' to see changes to articles on your watchlist. Hope that helps! --ais523 12:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

• Since you registered an account, you can use the "watch this page" feature to put an article on your watch list. As for saving articles, your browser undoubtedly has a save option in the file menu. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:16, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Small Town notability.

I have a question regarding the notability of small towns. Browsing and fixing/speedying new pages, i often notice people creating articles on small towns, often from one specific area, that contain little to almost no content. An example being in progress right now are the articles done by this user. Now, do these article deserve to be on wikipedia? They offer zero information, however, i have heard people saying before that real places are notable enough by default. Could someone give me a heads-up? Thank you. ~ | twsx | ^talk_cont | 13:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Real towns, villages and major city districts and other such communities or places are generally considered inherently notable, see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Common_outcomes for more. As for those specific articles, I think that even a short definition is better than nothing. Hopefully the articles will be expanded later. --KFP (talk | contribs) 13:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I doubt that. I've seen people create dozens of articles like that a couple of times before, and they were always left like that. However, thanks for the link, my question has been answered, now i know. Thank you. ~ | twsx | ^talk_cont | 13:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

• There's a bot that creates town articles for American census data for every city/town/village in the States. This precedent would strongly imply all towns are notable. WilyD 14:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
• Yes, I consider towns inherently notable, but I would recommend against writing an article unless you can write one or two paragraphs. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

• Since the mentioned bot did create an article on all of the populated places in the US, we would encourage the creation of articles about towns in other countries. Please try to provide reliable sources for any information you include, though. Corvus cornix 21:28, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Font renderings

Special characters sometimes don't render correctly in my browser. I'm running the most recent version of Firefox on Mac OS X. The most obvious current examples of incorrect characters appear in articles concerning playing cards—I can't see any suits. See Clubs (suit) for a good example. — atchius (msg) 14:08, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Check to see if you have a font installed with the characters in; it's quite possible that you can't see the characters because your computer doesn't have an appropriate font. --ais523 15:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I found out that my chosen typeface (for websites which don't specify one) didn't include the characters—I really quite like Optima though, so I think I'll stick with this. — atchius (msg) 15:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

NGWA

I have searched high and low but I am unable to find the answer :( I have attempted to post a page about our orginization under Category:Hydrology_organizations which was successful. The only problem is the "user: in front of the NGWA. How do I list the page under NGWA so that is appears under the "N's" and not "U" Thank you for your help Ngwa 14:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello, if the user page User:Ngwa is meant to be an encyclopedia article, it should be moved to the title NGWA in the main namespace. I will do the move now. --KFP (talk | contribs) 14:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

You have placed the article on your User page. For help on starting an article in the article space, see Help:Starting a new page. But first, you might want to see if your organization is notable enough. Dismas|^(talk) 14:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your help —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ngwa (talk • contribs).

• Please do not create or edit Wikipedia pages about your own organisation! Please read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Thank you. Notinasnaid 16:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Image removal

How do I remove an image I uploaded —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chevettev6 (talk • contribs).

• Generically you can't - when you upload an image you license it for use under [{GDFL]] or (in your case) you released it into the public domain, so you no longer "own" it. WilyD 15:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

If you have a good reason, you can place {{db-author}} on its image description page (you should be able to find the image description page in Special:Contributions/Chevettev6) to request that an administrator deletes the image. (You might want to explain your reasoning in your edit summary.) --ais523 15:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Sunrise Senior Living - "Financial Controversy" Section

March 19, 2007

Dear Wikipedia Editors:

My name is Jamison Gosselin and I am director of Corporate Communications for Sunrise Senior Living. I'd like to express a concern with you about a article addition made to the Sunrise Senior Living entry on February 7, 2007 by an unknown source. Sadly, I believe it violates the founding principles of Wikipedia and many of your rules. It offers biased, innaccurate and unattributed information. We believe this entry is part of a bag of tactics a labor union is using to misinform the public -- far from the purpose of an encyclopedia.

I'd like to take this opportunity to point out issues with the posting and how it violates your rules related to attribution and unbiased sourcing. It also clearly violates your policy related to conflicts of interest related to campaigning and citing oneself.

1) Financial Controversy - I've been here four years and am not aware of any financial controversy. One union organization with 500 shares of stock in Sunrise (we have millions of shares) sent us a letter in November asking us to look into our stock option grants and insider trade practices. We are currently doing that. There is no controversy.

2)The Times and Post do cover Sunrise because we are a publicly trade company -- but I am not aware of any articles that go into the depth of information provided in the next few sections.

3) These paragraphs are not written in an unbiased way and these matters are all evolving. None of the information in this section has been verified and frankly, I'm not sure where the submitting party got the information.

4) Questionable Accounting Practices - The review is being performed by Sunrise and was initiated by us. I'll spare you the many details to this item, but the information provided by the poster is full of generalizations and misleading statements. The consequences when all is said and done are not serious.

5) Stock Option Grants - Again, I'm not sure where they got this information from or where the poster can say "grants appear fortuitously timed." Again, this is biased information and unattributed information.

6) Related Links - www.sunriseshareholders.org. This "organization" is actually operated by the labor union that has launched a broad campaign against Sunrise and only represent the labor union. It is not some vast shareholder organization -- most of our shareholders are institutional banks, mutual funds and the founders of the company.

We ask that Wikipedia consider our information and then remove the portions of the Sunrise article posted on February 7, 2007. I have a lot of respect for the philosophy and structure of Wikipedia. It is a shame people would rather treat it as a campaign blog or salacious tabloid. An encylopedia should provide attributed and unbiased information and not be used as a weapon by groups determined to destroy a others.

I can be found as username QualityLife123 or feel free to contact me at (email removed to protect you from email-harvesting spammers). I look forward to your thoughts on this matter.

Sincerely, Jamison Gosselin Director, Corporate Communications Sunrise Senior Living —The preceding unsigned comment was added by QualityLife123 (talk • contribs) 15:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

I've tagged the article {{NPOV-section}} as an immediate response; I suspect people are looking in to it now. The entire section was added by an anonymous user, Special:Contributions/68.72.114.229, which looks suspicious; the section was blanked without a reason and then restored by vandalism patrollers. One big worry here is that the article (and section) isn't sourced; if you know some sources from outside the company (if you have a link to the relevant newspaper articles, for instance), that will help to set the matter straight. As it is, the amount of unsourced information in the article is worrying, and I'm not entirely sure that the article at present contains much useful information at all; you seem to have added most of the text to a section in a way that brings up conflict of interest concerns, and the IP seems to be even more biased the other way. (In fact, I'm wondering at the moment whether the article would be more useful as a stub than it is at the moment.) Do any other Help Desk responders have an idea as to what to do about this? --ais523 16:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I have deleted the whole Financial Controversy section as it has zero references and likely breaks WP:BLP by suggesting directors of financial malpractice. Diff = [1]. Cheers Lethaniol 16:16, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

I'm not going to revert the deletion because of the lack of references and the violation of WP:BLP.

However, although I don't have time to dig into the details this morning, a quick Google search on the terms "Sunrise Assisted Living insider stock sales" suggests that there is plenty of fire behind the smoke. Someone should follow up on this and provide citations for those facts that can be backed up by reliable sources and remove anything that cannot be verified. --Richard 16:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It would be nice if someone who knew more about the subject area would find a source for anything in the entire article, in fact. The section blanking was needed without sources, though. (This discussion should probably be on the article's talk page Talk:Sunrise Senior Living.) --ais523 16:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

(editconfict)I totally agree with this - but the citations are a must otherwise WP:BLP issues are massive (and still). Please note I will cut and paste this discussion to the article's talk page. Cheers Lethaniol 16:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Copyright issue

Hello, because I am new in the world of Wikipedia, I would like to ask you for the copyright issue about the uploaded images. Specifically, I uploaded an image which is mine, I mean that I shooted the image from my digital camera and at the stage of uploading I chose the option Own work, copyleft, multi-lisence e.t.c. I would like to know If I chose the appropriate copyright. A user tried to help me by mentioning the links with the tags but I finally didn't found a way to solve the problem . Thank you. Curunvir 16:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Since you took the image, you choose the copyright; it's alright like that. · AO ^Talk 16:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Unless it was a picture of a copyrighted work (like a painting, poster, book, CD cover, film or software on screen etc.) Notinasnaid 16:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Assuming that you do own the copyright for the picture (likely in most cases), make sure you choose a copyright licence that Wikipedia can use; anything in the section under 'self-made licences' is fine (make sure you're willing to release the image under such a licence before you upload it, though). --ais523 16:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

What exactly is the purpose

of the interwiki "links" on pages? They don't seem to show up on the articles themselves (which is why I put "links" in quotes), and if I want to access them, it seems I have to view the article source. Am I not looking hard enough? -- Lenoxus 16:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Interlanguage links. Check out the left navbar, at the bottom ;). -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 16:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

And here I was assuming those only linked to the main pages. *slaps forehead* — $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 00:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Problem editing Stefan LeFors

I am trying to edit Stefan LeFors' profile. and the Personal is too long, it stretches outside the box. maybe you can fix that. and also on the Teams list. I tried to put 2007 for Edmonton Eskimos. It put 2007 for Carolina, So i tried again, same thing. perhaps i'm not good at this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LSUBaseballGod82 (talk • contribs)

• You had a space as the first character of a line which causes the box to appear. I've fixed it. Also, not that comments like "He loves his family very much" are not encyclopedic and violate the WP:NPOV policy. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Doubt on linking to other languages

Hope this is the right place to ask this. I just wxpanded an article on Gastroschisis and then translated it and put it in spanish. How can I link the Spanish page in "other languages" in the English page and vice versa? Thank sou! Tibushi 18:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Place a [[en:name of article in English]] at the bottom of the Spanish page, and [[es:name of article in Spanish]] at the bottom of the English page. See Wikipedia:Interlanguage links for more information. --ais523 18:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Dear Wikipedia

Dear Wikipedia,

It's just natural for me to write a complaint to some company or person who has done something terribly wrong. Wikpedia had unaccurate information on Demond Tutu and many other topics. So, thanks to you, Wikipedia, I got a C on my thirty-three page report for "Use of un-accurate text." Thanks a lot. I went from an 97.46% in History, to a 76.89%. I can't get bad grades, I'm in eleventh grade, not first. Grades matter. When I apply for Harvard, or one of my other colleges I want to attend, they can't see a C, they have to see my straight A's that you've ruined.

Sincerely, Person who has no future in careers because of Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.40.122.40 (talk) 07:30, 20 March 2007

And that is why you don't just use Wikipedia as a source, but get information from other sources as well. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 20:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Whilst I'm pretty sure this isn't real, see Wikipedia:Researching with Wikipedia for why Wikipedia shouldn't be relied on as an academic reference. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 20:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

If this is genuine, he/she is blaming an openly editable website for a shortcoming that arose largely from their own laziness.... Oh boy. Adrian M. H. 20:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, in fact, the irony is that the fault is entirely his/her own - any intelligent student would know not to rely on only a single source, particularly one off the internet. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 21:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

If you cannot recognize that an encyclopedia is not a source itself, only a summarization of external sources to make it easier to find general information and to start looking for research, then I doubt you would get into Harvard anyway. Don't blame the community for laziness, especially when it is beaten over the head not to use Wikipedia as a source in itself. -Wooty Woot? contribs 22:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Volunteers

Are all of the Wikipedia contributors considered volunteers of the Wikimedia Foundation? Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 20:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe that they are considered to be unrelated to the Wikimedia Foundation; using Microsoft Windows doesn't mean you're a Microsoft volunteer. But don't quote me on that. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 20:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Out of nothing but the utmost humility, I wouldn't make the comparison quite that extreme — we are certainly "helping" Wikipedia, whereas everyday Windows users don't write any of the software/instructions. It's more like being a gnome, or something. — $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 00:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

There are a very few editors who are Wikimedia Foundation employees. User:Danny is one. Corvus cornix 21:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Need help copy-editing the next lesson for the Virtual classroom

The next lesson for the Virtual classroom goes live on Wednesday, and we need proofreaders/copy-editors to help get it ready. Time is running out. Please help...

Fighting link spam.

If you are good at grammar, and explaining things so they are easy to understand, then we really need your help. Thank you. The Transhumanist   20:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I was copy-editing it just now, but got an edit conflict. I had made too many changes to redo them, but I'd be happy to contribute to your work in the future. Adrian M. H. 21:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I see a Dangling modifier in User:The Transhumanist/Virtual classroom/Yuser, on fighting link spam#Spambots. I will fix it now. --Teratornis 22:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Creating an article

I just created an account and I am wondering, how do you create an article? Please help me out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alien joe (talk • contribs) 20:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

First, search for the name to make sure the article doesn't already exist under a different name. If there isn't one, Type the name you want in the search box and click "Go." Then click "create this page." However I strongly suggest you read up on some guidelines and help first like WP:N, Help:Starting a new page, WP:EDIT, and WP:CSD to make sure your article is appropriate for Wikipedia. Most new articles, especailly by new users are quickly deleted. That is why I suggest reading up on guidelines/policy and getting editing experience first, to know what is appropriate and how to write it (because a poorly written article is more likely to be deleted than a well written one). Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 21:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Your first article and Help:Starting a new page. For more information on contributing to Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:Introduction, Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia, and Wikipedia:Tutorial. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 21:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It's also good to read: Wikipedia:Why was my article deleted? before creating an article, rather than being shocked when it happens, and then wondering why. For some reason, it's almost a cliché that many new editors create new articles very early in their learning experience (hey, that's what I did too), and that approach has a rather low probability of success, given the complexity of Wikipedia's editing rules and the diligence of Wikipedia's legion of deletionists. Before starting a new article, it's good to try editing some existing articles. Also carefully check the List of wikis and search WikiIndex to see if another wiki is more suitable for the article you have in mind. Wikipedia has stricter editorial policies than many other wikis and is often not the most appropriate or welcoming wiki for a brand-new editor's first attempt to create an article. But when in doubt, just try it, and see what happens. --Teratornis 22:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Underline code in title?

Please see this re [[Xá:ytem]] / Xá:ytem.Skookum1 21:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Try

{{wrongtitle|title=Correct title}}

and see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical restrictions). Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 21:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thx!! I'll try it. Just in case you're wondering, such titles as the one I'm creating are becoming a standard part of Canadian English because of the role of First Nations organizations and agencies as well as bands/tribal councils with "diacriticalized" names; see where Skwxwu7mesh and St'at'imc redirect to, for instance. [[Xá:ytem]] is an archaeological site 50 miles east of Vancouver BC dating to 5000BP and 9000BP; the word is the name of "the rock" in the local language (Upriver Halkomelem/Halqemeylem]) the rock, which is the centrepiece of the dig and which triggered it off, originally had an English style name based on the agricultural-suburban locality it was located at but which, though native, was wildly wrong (it - [[Hatzic, British Columbia|Hatzic]] - unfortunately means male genitalia in Halkomelem, a reference to a paritcular root which grew there...); long story but also longer overdue given other articles already in Wikipedia that [[Xá:ytem]] get an article; but I didn't want to start one without using the official spelling as preferred even in English publications by the organization in charge of the place. Thx again.Skookum1 07:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Topic: "Socialism"

I have added to external links: www.socialistworker.org The International Socialist Organization (I assure you, they exist). I added my signature to assure it is not a prank yet it keeps being erased. Sincerely, Camilo Rubinos 21:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

To which article? - Adrian M. H. 21:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

You're not supposed to sign your edits to articles; see WP:OWN. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 21:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

• They might exist, but the link could still be unsuited to the article you added it to, or be considered WP:SPAM. You should discuss its addition on the article talk page. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
• The URL you gave seems to belong to a newspaper, rather than being the official site of The International Socialist Organization. The link was added under the heading of "organisations". Again, the best thing is to talk about this on the talk page of the article; these sort of decisions should be made by consensus, since clearly the article cannot link to every web page with a socialist connection. It would be as well to familiarise yourself with the guidelines in Wikipedia:External links so you can argue from a position of knowledge. Notinasnaid 22:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Trial Transcripts

Depending on copyright issues and a couple other factors, I'm considering converting the Julie Amero Trial Transcript from the current format (41 PDFs each containing a handful of image scans of individual pages) to a more convenient format (straight text?). If I do so, I'm considering publishing the results on a WikiMedia Foundation project. It's not clear to me where it belongs. Wikipedia? WikiCommons? No WMF project? love, raiph 21:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

• Assuming you can iron out copyright issues, I'd say the most suitable place is Wikisource. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

• • Thanks for the reply and its speed. I'll go to WikiSource. love, raiph 22:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

adding my company web page as an external link

Hi there...

Am I allowed to add a company as an external link? E.g., I want to put an URL under the "external links" section for "Uninterruptible Power Supply". You already have links there for some vendors, so I am wondering how they got there, and how I can put our company URL there. Can you please advize. Thanks and have a great day!

Stephen —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Strimac (talk • contribs) 22:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

Certainly not one with which you have any association. WP:COI. If your company is notable in this field - at least comparable to existing links - someone else may well choose to add it of their own volition at some point. I would rather not see any commercial links whatsoever... See External Links for info - Adrian M. H. 22:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

• I took out most of the external links as they were just links to companies tha sold power supplies. External links should only be added if they contribute to the encyclopedic nature of the article. The ones I left were a site that just gave facts and a manufacturer's page that gave some general information. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 22:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
  • And I took all of them out - see next section. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

adding my company web URL to a page

I would like to add a company webpage (as URL) to the "external links" section in you "Uninterruptible Power Supply" page. How do I do this? I noticed that you already have some external links there, so I was hoping to do the same. Please advize.Strimac 22:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Why have you asked this twice?? - Adrian M. H. 22:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I've removed the entire list of manufacturers of UPS systems, per WP:NOT - Wikipedia is not a directory. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

New Hampshire

when was new hampshire founded — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.194.153 (talk) 09:32, 20 March 2007

This is better answered at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities - the Help Desk is for Wikipedia related questions. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 22:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It should be in the article, too. Look it up here: New Hampshire. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Evilclown93 (talk • contribs) 00:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

See Province of New Hampshire.   The Transhumanist   04:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Logging in

I thought I once had an account here (Choicefresh), but it says there is no such user. Are there any usernames registered to liam[dot]kirsh[at]gmail[dot]com or liamkirsh[at]yahoo[dot]com?

24.6.221.189 23:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

That account exists, but you have no contributions on it. Am I right? Anyways, feel free to get a new account, since that one didn't edit at all, but if you rediscover Choicefresh, don't use the account and redirect the pages to your working one. The Evil Clown _{Please review me!} 01:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

March 20

Writing articles

How do i write a article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.107.17.106 (talk) 00:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

See Wikipedia:How_to_start_a_page. Make sure your article meets notability requirements. -- Hdt83 | Talk 00:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

To create an article, you have to get an account. The Evil Clown _{Please review me!} 00:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

And read Wikipedia:Why was my article deleted? to see what can happen if you don't follow the rules. There are lots of rules depending on the article's subject, so you might want to tell us more about the article you want to write, and get some specific advice before starting. If you are just starting out on Wikipedia, it's better to spend some time editing existing articles before starting new ones, so you can learn how things work here. --Teratornis 13:43, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Would it be okay to violate the 3rr rule if it is vandalism?

Question asked in headline.--Shindo9Hikaru 00:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

The 3RR doesn't apply at all. I have "violated" like that countless times. Feel free to weed out vandalism on one page as much as you can possibly do in a day. Cheers! The Evil Clown _{Please review me!} 01:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• As long as it is clearly vandalism as per Wikipedia:Vandalism, the 3RR doesn't apply. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
• And just to emphasise the point more: vandalism would be things like adding "poop" or changing the day Christmas falls on to 25 June. It does not apply to sincere edits made by editors who seem to believe what they write, even if they are completely misinformed; this is a content dispute, and should be reverted only once before moving to discussion on the talk page. Notinasnaid 08:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Just for reference, note that reverting vandalism on four different pages definitely doesn't violate 3RR, and in fact is somewhat encouraged (this came up in a helpme once). --ais523 13:53, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

What?

What kind of bennifits/rewards do i get for creating an acount?
Thebeast2029. I've welcomed you on your talk. The benefits are many; rewards are few, except adminship, Barnstars, and after roughly 20000-50000 Jimbo Wales might give you a job at Wikia. Or maybe not. Have fun! The Evil Clown _{Please review me!} 01:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

You get to be one of us! Users with accounts get more controls to play with, greater editing access, etc. The Transhumanist   04:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

See our article Wikipedia:Why create an account? Harryboyles 07:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Lemuel H. Wells

The article on Lemuel H. Wells contains a factual error of geography. It locates the city of Tacoma, Washington in the wrong part of the state. I attempted to edit it by changing the one incorrect word. I saw the change made, and I wrote a very brief explanation of what I did in the space for doing that; however, when I opened up the article, my correction had not been made. I closed my browser and reopened it and went to the article again. It still doesn't reflect my correction. I have looked over all the help sections---most of which are too complicated for this 79 year old geezer to understand---but I couldn't find any info on what else I could do to make the correction stick. 24.19.92.118 01:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)William J. Erickson, Tacoma, Washington

I think I changed it back correctly (Eastern to Western Washingotn). Let me know if anything else is wrong. Thanks. -- Hdt83 | Talk 01:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Well done to you for having a go at it. Don't let one glitch put you off, either. Too many people simply post here expecting someone else to make the edit, so it is nice to see keen contributors. Adrian M. H. 18:53, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Source no longer exists

What is an online source no longer exists, what is the correct way to modify an article? For example, if a newspaper article is no longer online. Thanks, CoolGuy 01:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Cite the physical publication. See Wikipedia:Citing sources.

Hope that helps. The Transhumanist   04:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

What article are you referring to? What reference no longer exists? (drop me a note on my talk page, to be sure I get your answer). The Transhumanist   04:17, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• It happens a lot. If there is a paper alternative, you should cite that. If it's an online source that went missing, you should make an effort to look for archived versions of it. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

PDF file as a reference

Hi, I am trying to use a linked PDF file as a reference per the normal way I add references, but when I do all the text below that reference does not show in the saved article. Is there is special way to do this? If you look at Robert Perry (yacht designer) you can see my inital article creation with the ref and then my removal of the ref due to the problem it created. Thanks! Russeasby 01:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I've fixed it for you. The reason that happened was that you forgot to close the reference with a </ref> tag. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 02:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Doh, now do I feel stupid now... thanks much! Russeasby 02:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It's an incredibly common mistake around here. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 02:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Mismatched tags and/or delimiters are routine user mistakes in every programming language or markup language that uses tags and/or delimiters - all programmers make them. Well-designed programming tools account for this ergonomic reality. MediaWiki should be able to detect the lack of closing tags, and display a warning. Russeasby should not feel stupid; the lack of any warning for this common mistake is an ergonomic design flaw in the system. MediaWiki needs its own lint. I added that suggestion to m:MediaWiki Ideal. --Teratornis 14:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Audio Files

Guys I have a question: Is there a policy on how to use the audio samples? cuz i have tons of files that could be used for audio samples (in OGG, 64 Kbps like 20 or 30 seconds bla bla bla) in music (for example, Helicopter) but idk whats the policy about it. so, can I start uploading them or there is a problem?--ometzit<col> 02:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

All the information is at Wikipedia:Music samples. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 02:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Redundant fair use images

Ello, just a quick query as I can't seem to find my way to the right tag/template page... I've just replaced a fair-use image with one of my own under a CC licence. Is there an appropriate speedy delete tag I can apply to the (now redundant) copyrighted image as its fair use rationale (not great to start with) is now invalid? The image in question is Image:TomQ.jpg. Cheers, --YFB ¿ 02:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe you just add this tag to the image: {{subst:rfu}}. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 02:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

A List I'm Working On

I'm trying to determine if this list is worth moving out of my user space, or if it's too "list-crufty" (I tried to restrict it to people deemed notable enough for their own Wikipedia article) - and is this the right forum to be asking that sort of question? I couldn't find a more appropriate one. Thanks for any comments you can offer! JavaTenor 05:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Per notablility. Yes. Just list the list on mainspace and label it as a stub. Real96 05:34, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• Yes, it's stubby but if you drop in some sources, I think this could live in the article space. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Gite (game)

I believe there used to be an article at Gite (game), but it has disappeared entirely, and there doesn't seem to be an AfD. What happened to it, or am I just mistaken? zafiroblue05 | Talk 06:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

If you check the logs here, you'll find that it was deleted using the proposed deletion process. Harryboyles 07:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

a problem I've been having with the "Canadian Music Week" wiki entry

Hi, I seem to be having a problem with someone erasing the information I've been posting about "Canadian Music Week". I have been posting correct information, removing dead links, and adding a few things (contributing producers, a myspace link, etc..) that are 100% true, and with content that i'm authorised to use. A certain user keeps deleting what I've been posting and it's becoming frustrating since I don't have time to repost it every day. If you look in the history of the page, you'll see what I've posted, and what he/she has removed. I've also posted the following on the person in question's (folajimi) "talk" page:

• • • Start of my Folajimi "Talk" post

Who are you? and why do you keep editing the Canadian Music Week Wiki entry with wrong info? the links you are restoring are dead, the info regarding the "Silver Jubilee (or 25th anniversary) of the creation of the Canadian Federation of Music Teachers' Associations (CMFTA" has absolutely nothing to do with Canadian Music Week. The CMFTA may have been a sponsor once uppon a time (not sure), but they have nothing to do with what CMW is today. Before you edit a page, do everyone a favour and make sure the info you're fighting to put on there is valid. I also posted the CMW MySpace page, is there a reason why you deleted this link? Don't let your feelings get the best of you, the information you posted is wrong, lay your bruised ego to rest and just let the truth flow. All of the information I posted is valid and true, this is the second time you've deleted it, and I'll have to report you if you do it a third time. Furthermore: Canada Music Week is the event you're posting. Canadian Music Week is a different event. You're posting a history of "Canada Music Week" in the "Canadian Music Week" wiki. They are two different events, and should not be confused. If you want, go make yourself a new "Canada Music Week" Jubilee Wiki. *Canadian* Music Week began in 1981, and celebrated it's 25th year this past March 7-10.

• • • End of my Folajimi "Talk" post

I sincerely hope you can help me rectify this problem, thank you, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aross5150 (talk • contribs) 06:11, 20 March 2007 (UTC)<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/navpop.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css&dontcountme=s">.

While the sitation is annoying, I know, I think you have overstepped the normal bounds of politeness in your message. Please see Wikipedia:Assume good faith, Wikipedia:No personal attacks, and Wikipedia:Be civil. Starting discussion is the right thing to do. Reposting every day without discussion, and using threats "I'll have to report you" rather than open discussion is wrong. You are also posting without an edit summary: this is not a good idea, the edit summary is used to explain why you have made changes. In Wikipedia you don't just have to be right, you have to politely convince the other editors of a page that you are right, and come to a consensus. My recommendation is to post on the article talk page, as this is about the article, not about its editors.

Finally, two more points. You will need to write in a much more neutral style. Text like "The 25th edition of the Canadian Music Week Conference kicked off with a visionary look at the future" will be removed by any experienced editor as not meeting the requirements of Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. And, another reason your edits will be immediately removed by experienced editors is that they are copied directly from http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=107567842. You must not use copyrighted material on Wikipedia, and even if you have permission, it is so complicated to record it that it is always better to rewrite.

I hope this helps you to see a bit more about how Wikipedia works, and wish you a long and productive editing career. Notinasnaid 08:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

A sentence such as: "The 25th edition of the Canadian Music Week Conference kicked off with a visionary look at the future" should cause us all to fear the peacock. --Teratornis 14:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Usually, I avoid participating in these sort of discussions, but given that I was invited to chime in, I will. Considering the insightful replies already proffered by others (and the tempered edits made to the article in question), I will only address the outstanding issue of links to questionable external sites.

Upon reviewing the edits by the plaintiff here (with Hanlon's razor in mind), I conclude that there was no malicious intent. However, adding links to social networking sites is ill-advised; although it has been argued that certain links be permitted on a case-by-case basis. I doubt that this link qualifies for such an exemption. --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 14:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

how to unlock effects

i need to know about the bonus effects i got with my pinnacale studio soft ware, which i am not able to unlock. so, please help me out about this matter. i also want to know about the daboule video layer. my software ver. is pinnacle studio 9.

I willl be glade if you repaly as soon a spossible. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.93.198.22 (talk) 07:48, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

I think you must have the wrong site. If you have problems with software you have purchased, you should contact the maker of the software. This page is for problems with Wikipedia. Good luck, Notinasnaid 08:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

meteorological observations

Explain the characteristics of the synoptic scale weather systems in the south west pacific from 5th march to 11th march 2007? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Weleilakeba (talk • contribs) 07:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

Isn't that your homework? Notinasnaid 08:31, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• You're more likely to get an answer if you tell us why you want to know, say 'please' and ask in the right place on the reference desk. - 131.211.210.11 08:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

numbers on my watchlist

There are negative and positive numbers in parentheses on "my watchlist." What do these numbers mean? Kdammers 09:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

The number of characters added or removed from the article. It helps to see large scale vandalism. For instance if an entire section is removed the count may be in the thousands. Dismas|^(talk) 09:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• This and other questions are covered in WP:VFAQ. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfair

I was banned cus my username was 'BongHits4Jesus' WHY? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BannedFromWikipediaDueToUsernameNotVandalism (talk • contribs) 10:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

• See Wikipedia:Username. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

As someone said on your talk page, your current choice is very counter-productive. Other editors are less likely to act positively toward you and assume good faith. Adrian M. H. 19:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

changing user name

hi, i've just registered... and made a small error... how do i go about changing my user name from Harold nono to harold nono? can you help? thanks, harold —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Harold nono (talk • contribs) 10:14, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

Go to WP:USURP and file a request there. Cheers! Real96 10:18, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Due to technical restrictions, the first letter of your username is capitalized automatically. So your username will remain the same, but you can change what people will see on your userpage by editing User:Harold nono and inserting {{lowercase}}. HTH ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 10:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

HMS Prince Regent

Hello,

I checked various FAQ sections before asking ... I'm new to Wiki and just created an article "HMS Prince Regent". Using this exact spelling it doesn't show up on searches, as if it doesn't exist. What have I or am I doing wrong?

Navy_Board 10:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Your article is at HMS Prince Regent. See WP:PURGE ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 10:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

If you refer to clicking "Search" below the search box, then it takes some time before the search index is updated. Currently it only shows 3 older articles (which you could link to the new one). PrimeHunter 12:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

You should join WikiProject Ships if you have not already, and follow their guidelines for ship articles. See HMS Victory for a well-developed example. You should mark your article with the applicable stub type, and add an infobox. Place the WikiProject Ships banner template on Talk:HTML Prince Regent. Also, be sure to use the term wiki correctly. Wikipedia is but one of many wikis. "Wiki" as a proper noun refers to the original wiki, WikiWikiWeb. --Teratornis 18:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Translation = 'in other languages'

I have been unable to find any documentation on cross-linking articles between *.wikipedia.org sites, i.e on the meaning of the 'in other languages' column on the (LTR) left side of a page. I am interested, for example, in whether articles so linked are intended to be equivalent, and if so how they are to be kept in step as they evolve, or whether only their titles are meant to be equivalent.
Could somebody please point me in the right direction?
Thank you!
-- 86.7.17.120 12:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• No, the articles linked to in other languages are merely supposed to be about the same subject. Since each language Wikipedia has different editors and works independantly it's impossible to keep them equivalent. If you want to help translate articles, please see Wikipedia:Translations. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

With embarrassment i now see that my question was effectively answered (Wikipedia:Interlanguage_links) only yesterday (since i last checked). Sorry about that, and thanks!
-- 86.7.17.120 13:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Nexon Company Article is Advertising

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexon_Corporation is biased towards the company. I tried adding an NPOV tag, but it was reverted minutes later. This article may need to be locked or otherwise prevented from bias. (80.247.146.169 13:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC))

The text of the NPOV tag says "The neutrality of this article is disputed.

Please see the discussion on the talk page." If you do not explain exactly how you dispute the neutrality, it is correct to remove the tag! It may be that another more specific tag would be appropriate. Notinasnaid 18:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

The '|' icon

Hello, I was just wondering how to get the | icon up. You see, I can only do it by copying and pasting it from elsewhere, but I bet there's a much simpler, easier way of doing it that I've been stupid not to have worked out. So, how do you do it?... Lradrama 13:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• I have a UK keyboard layout, but I can do it with SHIFT-\ SuperCoolAl 13:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Can be slightly misleading on some keyboards - it looks like a broken pipe symbol. It should be the same on US and UK keyboards although in a different position - shift-\. x42bn6 Talk 13:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

On most keyboards, it's either shift-\ or Alt Gr-` (two keys that are hardly ever used!). You can also insert it by clicking on the | in the 'Wiki markup' section in the box below the 'save page' button. --ais523 13:43, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Image Permission

If a website states specifically that anyone can use any of that site's images without explicit permission to supplement articles on Wikipedia, how should I mark that when uploading them here? Should I choose the "copyrighted" template and then explain that we have permission to use it here? Thanks. --Steevven1 ^{(Talk) (Contribs) (Gallery)} 13:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It depends on exactly what the permission says. What you've describes sounds like {{CopyrightedFreeUse}}, but I wouldn't know for certain without knowing the wording of the permission. (Don't choose a 'permission on Wikipedia only' entry; usability by other websites is important.) --ais523 14:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Seems that the tag in question was indirectly renamed to {{PD-release}} (apparently CopyrightedFreeUse was a confusing name). --ais523 14:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• Images should not be released for just Wikipedia. It should specifically release it under a free license which also allows use by others. - Mgm|^(talk) 16:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  • But if an image is released just for Wikipedia, and it says so on the website, can we use it, and if so, how do I mark it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Steevven1 (talk • contribs) 15:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC).
    • Wikipedia content can be copied and placed elsewhere, if the requirements of the GFDL license are met. We cannot guarantee that an image will only appear on Wikipedia. Corvus cornix 21:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Talk page blanking after edits

On two separate occassions, edits to Wikipedia talk:Railway line template have resulted in large parts of the discussion being blanked. See edit 1 and edit 2. The first edit was by me, and I assumed I'd just done something stupid, so reverted it. The second was by User:HandigeHarry, who assures me it wasn't deliberate (and I have no reason to doubt him). Could there be any reason for this? – Tivedshambo (talk) 13:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It could be that you were editing an older revision of the page without realising it, and reverting by mistake. --ais523 14:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd wondered that as well, but I'd done a preview and it seemed ok, also the message I was trying to add wasn't there. – Tivedshambo (talk) 15:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Maybe it's a server glitch? There have been some weird things happening recently in this respect. You might want to ask on the technical village pump. --ais523 15:26, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Remarkable: On both occasions the resulting page was exactly the same. HandigeHarry 15:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Something like this happened a couple weeks ago. It was determined to be a server glitch (I think). I believe it had to do with the slave databases servers not being up to date with the masters, so edit pages were editing the wrong version, which accidentally reverted recent changes. There were a couple discussions on WP:VPT about it. They are probably archived now if you want to take a look. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 19:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Username Misplaced in Categories

I notice that when I click on Categories from my User page that my username invariably turns up under U. My username begins with an S. Why is this? Soulstrial 15:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

By default, adding a page to a category alphabetises it under the name of the page; this is U for User:Soulstrial. To alphabetise your page under S, write {{DEFAULTSORT:Soulstrial}} at the top of the page, to tell the softwhere where the page should be sorted. Hope that helps! --ais523 15:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Soulstrial 15:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Or you can pipe the category link if you prefer: [[Category:Users who belong to categories|Soulstrial]]. This will drop it in under S. - Adrian M. H. 16:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

reporting vandalism?

i removed some obvious vandalism from this aricle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bacterial_vaginosis

does this need to be reported somewhere? does the page get locked? should i track that user for vandalism to other pages? where does my responsiblity end? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fullofstrangeideas (talk • contribs) 15:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

You've done all that's necessary. Thanks for your help. If you want to do more, you can learn how at WP:RCP. Cheers!-- Chaser - T 15:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

The place to report vandalism is called WP:AIV there you just give a brief summary of the user and someone will come and block them. Retiono Virginian 16:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Expanding the comment by Retiono Virginian, you have to have made sure the user has received proper warnings and has vandalised after his fourth warning, then you can report them to AIV to ensure a temporary (sometimes indefinite depending on the circumstances) block.Tellyaddict 16:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

New messages woe

Instead of the bright orange box displaying you have new messages, is there a way I can have the background of the "my talk" link to flash yellow?
- the one between the userspace & my preferences links - -- Darkest Hour 16:11, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

No, unfortunately their is not, if you see the banner informing you that you have new messages then once you click it and go to another page afterwards (hopefulyl after reading it!) then it will go away but that is the only way it can appear. Hope this helps!! Tellyaddict 16:18, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• Its almost certain possible, but you'd have to write a monospace.js hack to do it. —Dark•Shikari^[T] 16:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• I know that but I am wondering how i woud code it. If I could find the location of the messagebar and something having to do with the links up top I might possibly be able to do it. Right now I have a css "hack" that supresses it. See: here. -- Darkest Hour 16:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

  You might want to put a request in at Wikipedia:WikiProject user scripts for someone to write a script like that. --ais523 16:34, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Assuming the box has a unique ID, it wouldn't be too much of a big deal to use:

position:absolute;
width:50%;
right:0px;
background:yellow;
color:yellow;
z-index:1;
height:1em;
overflow: -- whatever the "cut it off" attribute is, I forget --

Then, ensure all your menu has a higher z-index and you'll get a yellow background up there. --Kainaw ^(talk) 18:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Putting a photo on a page

I've been reading and experimenting for 3 hours but I can't seem to figure this one out. I would like to add a photo to a page. How do I do it? Thanks in advance for any help.Laura SA 17:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

First you have to upload the photo, then add it to an article. You first need to make sure that the copyright conditions are appropriate. If you've taken the photo yourself, and there's no reason why someone else might hold the copyright, then you can release the photo under a free use licence yourself by selecting a licence under 'self made' in the licence box. Use Special:Upload to upload the image and see Wikipedia:Image tutorial to see how to add it to an article. Hope that helps! --ais523 17:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Yikes, my photo came out a bit big, but it's up and working! Thanks for your prompt assistance! Laura SA 17:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Reduce the pixel value in your image link. I tend to go for between 200 and 250, depending on paragraph size and image quality/detail. Adrian M. H. 19:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Login will not hold (yes, I read the FAQ)

My login simply will not hold. Cookies are enabled (always have been on both broswers IE and/or Firefox) I have set up my account (DanBlanchard) and confirmed my email address. BUT no matter how many times I log in , log out, clear my cookies and cache, stand on my head while reading my computer the riot act... It will NOT recognize me as being looged in (with the noteable exception of the login in page that welcomes me warmly and assures me I have just successfully logged in.)

Oh, while I AM a newbie editor, I have been a prof. web developer for about 12 years now... so, not my first time using a browser. 67.142.130.39 18:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Try using a different browser? Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 18:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I have tried two, Firefox and IE. They hold separate cookies... niether works, Just tried other puters on my local net, same problem, then terminal svcd to a remote computer off my net, it logged in fine and held my session... SO this leads me to:

Has anyone ever reported a problem using a Hughes Satellite connection with Wiki? I have had other sites/services that don't work with the Satellite (LONG ping times). But these are usually things like cgi chat routines and not simple website session cookies 67.142.130.39 18:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• Some ISPs use transparent proxies which cause problems logging in. If you find that you are automatically logged out just after you have logged in, and removing all your Wikipedia cookies does not fix the issue, try using the secure server (much slower) to bypass the proxy. This happens most often with some satellite ISPs (particularly HughesNet/DirecWay/DirecPC). (from Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)) Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 19:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much Zman! That DID INDEED WORK! It IS slow... but it gets the job done. 67.142.130.39 19:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Blocked IP for vandalism

when an unregistered user on an IP address vandalizes a page, the IP gets blocked for an ammount of time. I've noticed that the time gets longer each time an address is blocked. my question is: does wikipedia permanently block an IP address after several occurrences of vandalism?

IP addresses are never indefinitely blocked unless we have proof that they are open proxies. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 18:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

IP addresses are often reassigned to different people so an indefinite block could affect more than the intended target. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 19:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Book: "The Hole In the Fence"

The Canadian Health Minister of National Health and Welfare published a book titled "The Hole In the Fence" sometime during the 1970s or 1980s. I used this book when I formerly worked as a prevention specialist in the drug and alcohol field years ago. I would now like to purchase a copy, if it's at all possible. How would I obtain this information? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Ned Strauser Counselor Corning Community College Corning, NY 14830 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 143.66.10.30 (talk) 18:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

Please ask your question on the Reference Desk. This Help page is about how to use Wikipedia. Adrian M. H. 19:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio? Can someone double check

From a brief glance at 702 (band), I'd say most of it is a copyvio of http://ca.askmen.com/women/singer_150/173c_702.html -- would this be true? -- Zanimum 19:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't appear to be a direct copy and paste (though I would guess it was at some point) For example:

• "In Nevada, sisters LeMisha and Irish Grinstead, and their friend Kameelah Williams, were students at a Las Vegas school." (from the Wikipedia article)
• The "AskMen" article begins with "In their hometown of Las Vegas, Nevada" and ends with "were living a normal teenage life."

I would still suggest cleaning it up a little as it still sounds like a review. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 19:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

This revision from October 2006 is the initial copyvio. It appears to be a direct copy and paste of the "AskMen" article following "Nevada." Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 19:47, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

That likely means the whole thing has to be deleted and restarted, unfortunately. —Dark•Shikari^[T] 21:48, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Or at least reverted to an earlier revision (unless someone wants to rewrite what is currently there sometime very soon). Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 21:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect Links

Dear Helpdesk.

How do I redirect a link to a disambiguation page, rather than an article? For instance, in the article on the musician Roy Wood, it mentions that he was briefly in a band called "The Rockers". A click onto the "Rockers" link takes you to an article about an American wrestling tag team (of which I'm reasonably sure he was not a member).

Best regards. Linus. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Linus 337 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

• There appears to be no disambiguation page on the topic; you'll probably have to create one yourself. It also appears an article on "The Rockers", the band, doesn't actually exist, so you'd have to create that too. Could also leave it as a redlink. —Dark•Shikari^[T] 21:47, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

When merging, how do you preserve merged article's "page history"?

I'd like to merge Fancher party into the Mountain Meadows massacre but preserve Fancher Party's page history. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Justmeherenow (talk • contribs) 21:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

If you are merging it, the page history is retained on the original page which should be converted to a redirect, not deleted. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 22:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh OK - thx! :^)

Advertising Block

Hello Wikipedia Team!

I've been trying to create a neutral page about ePrize. So far, it keeps catching your advertising filter. I really don't want to break any of your rules or guidelines. Could you help me find out what I am doing wrong?

Thank you, AlesyaO 22:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

There is no "filter" per se, just a bunch of editors who quickly review all new pages. For details, see WP:SPAM, WP:WEASEL, and WP:NPOV. Try to write neutral. Don't say things like "ABCD Corp. is the best company ever", unless you can cite a source that actually says that. Give facts about the company: founding, headquarters, products/services, etc. without using words/phrases like "the best", "top-of-the-line", "quality" (unless its about quality control), "are considered", "some say", etc. Look at the articles for similar companies for guidance. Also, make sure you have reliable sources per WP:ATT (more than just the company website, news articles are good) and the company meets the criteria at WP:CORP. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 22:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm assuming you are referring to EPrize. First, make sure you follow the guidelines in WP:MoS as a well written article always stands a better chance than a poorly written one. Also, move the awards to the bottom. The article should mainly be about facts of the company. Awards, though important to the company, are not as important to someone wanting to find out what the company is. I'll take a look at it some more and see what I can do. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 22:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I've cleaned it up a bit, however, it needs some clarification. It says it was founded in 1999, but didn't get a major investment until 2006? I tagged the relevant sentence with {{clarifyme}} which produces . I also fixed the title. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 22:31, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Bug in Wikipedia

• Check this out in edit mode

[[Special:Whatlinkshere/{{BASEPAGENAMEE}}|what links here]]

• Error in popups because of that bug

<a class= ⋅
backlinksPreviewHTML went wonky

-- Darkest Hour 22:11, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

? Nothing breaks for me. Also, popups are not part of Mediawiki, rather a javascript addon by Lupin. Prodego ^talk 22:14, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

You mean you don't see

{{BASEPAGENAMEE}}">[[Special:Whatlinkshere/{{BASEPAGENAMEE}}|what links here]]?

-- Darkest Hour 22:16, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I see "[[Special:Whatlinkshere/{{BASEPAGENAMEE}}|what links here]]" in a blue dotted box, and that is how it should look. Is this not what you see? Prodego ^talk 22:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Adding to a file that seems to be "closed"

I wanted to add information to the entry for "Massachusetts." Howver, this entry seems to be "closed" for now. There are a huge number of comments about Massachusetts, but I do not understand what is going on and what I should do to add information, if it is not now being accepted. I am a retired journalist and can make a useful contribution. However, this seems very complicated. I just read a huge section on "talk" and "signatures," and it all seems confusing to me as a newcomer. I just want to be able to edit and perhaps write an article or two. I do not wish to become a full-time Wikipedia person. I would especially appreciate a reply to my question about the section on "Massachusetts." However, I do not know where I will ever find the reply! I have been instructed not to give me email address, and I will sign as instructioned (Aaayoung 22:17, 20 March 2007 (UTC)). I hope I am doing the right thing. Thanks.

Massachusetts is not, and actually has never been protected. Are you sure that you are making your edit correctly? When you click 'edit this page', you should get this page. Then click save to save your changes. Prodego ^talk 22:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I found the same. Again, just click, "edit this page" to edit an article. To start a new page take a look here. Good luck editing, I'm sure with your history you will be a great asset. Scottydude 22:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It might just have been that the server's database was locked for maintenance, as happens quite frequently. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 22:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Additionally, the question you posted on Mass' discussion will either be answered below the original question or on your talk page. If you need further assistance place {{helpme}} on your userpage. Scottydude 22:31, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I think I found the answer. See my explanation at User talk:Aaayoung - Adrian M. H. 16:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Copyrights

If a work is copyrighted in a country other than my own, can I upload it to Wikipedia? Thanks. 151.202.74.135 23:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• No, as Wikipedia is available in evry country, all copyright laws are enforced. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 23:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• It's a lot more complicated than all that really--VectorPotential^Talk 01:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

My understanding is that international treaties tend to mean that a work copyrighted in one country is copyright in many others automatically. It's worth realising that in many places (including the USA, which is the most relevant since that's where all the Wikipedia servers are), copyright is automatic; it does not have to be claimed. The act of creating something, anywhere in the world, gives anyone automatic protection, whether or not they add a copyright notice. (The situation is of course more complicated than this, see the link above). Notinasnaid 08:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

March 21

cite

when using an article how to you cite it for the bibliography — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.51.245.227 (talk • contribs)

If you mean how to cite Wikipedia in your project see: WP:CITING Scottydude 02:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Anti-Vandalism

I'm using the Voice of All script fight vandalism. But for some reason I can't rollback pages anymore. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hmrox (talk • contribs) 01:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

Try Twinkle Real96 03:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

College coach infobox

I am currently working on updating a couple 'stubs' about some college football coaches. However, I don't know how to use and edit the 'college coach infobox'.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Heismanhoosier 04:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Try Help:Infobox. Real96 04:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

updating a page

The "M.C." page of your site has no definition for comedy clubs and requests "expert" advice. I am an M.C. in comedy clubs with a Masters Degree in Sociology and would like to update it, but it is heavily protected and the sites to edit it have sent me in circles. Below is my recomended definition. It is very general and would be agreed upon by most comedians:

Comedy Clubs

The M.C. (often spelled emcee) of a comedy show is the host of the evening’s events, charged with a variety of responsibilities. These typically include making announcements, introducing the other comedians of the evening, and interacting with the crowd for such events as birthdays, anniversaries, and other parties. The M.C. position is typically the first step that a comedian takes out of open mic’s, and it is known to be a tough position. The M.C. is the first comedian onstage and must ‘pick up’ a ‘cold crowd’ in order to get the audience’s energy going, and to set a humorous tone for the evening. In clubs, they often have to memorize lists of announcements concerning everything from drink specials and upcoming bands, to film and T.V. credits of the featured and headlining comedians. They are also the lowest paid comedians on the bill.

Thanks for your time - Skip Martin —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.183.10.165 (talk) 04:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

The article M.C. is not protected. So, you can edit the page, now. Real96 04:55, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Question (maybe a silly one, but still...)

Just asking, because this thing is starting to get on my nerves. I'm working mainly on Tokyo Mew Mew-related articles, and often have to revert vandalism in them. Among the changes I usually have to revert are the name changes - that is, using the names from fansubs and fansites instead of the names from Tokyopop's translation, like it should be. This happens regularly - some people just randomly change the names in one or several articles, some of them return later and do it again after their changes have been reverted; and some even change the names in such way that the links to the characters' articles get broken, but they don't seem to care, and don't seem to pay attention to the comments in the articles, about using Tokyopop names. The problem is that there is no template message for such kind of edits. Just... what to write on their talk pages so that they would know why the names shouldn't be changed? Is there some page where some note about using the names from English translations is written (I think I've seen something like this, but I don't remember where...)? 夢の騎士^{Yume no Kishi - Talk} 06:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean by "changing the names"? Do you mean that they modify the websites links point to? Or that they intentionally make sourced information incorrect? The first one would be met by the {{spam}} series of templates, and the other one would be {{verror}}. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 06:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

• You can transclude more than just templates. You could simply make such a template in your userspace and use it to inform these people. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Seems to be a good idea. I forgot about userspace templates, I think I'll try to make one. Thank you. 夢の騎士^{Yume no Kishi - Talk} 11:17, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Lists of articles vs. articles in categories

I think that this is kinda still up in the air. When an article "List of Foo bars" connsists of list(s) where almost all listed items have there own articles, it has been mentioned it possibly should be done instead as a category, and then including each of the articles in the category. But... I don't know about all that. Can you point me in the direction of ongoing discussions or guidelines/essays, preferably with a bias towards whatever the current consensus is? (or whether or not there is a consensus :-) Shenme 07:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

• There's a lot of people who prefer the one or the other, but there's no actual concensus on this. There is a page somewhere that gives you an idea what type of lists are useful (for example, you can't annotate categories). Have a look at Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes and Wikipedia:Categories vs lists (the last one is a somewhat POV essay, so it should be taken with a grain of salt). - Mgm|^(talk) 09:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Promotional image copyright

I wanted to write an article about a guitar, specifically Epiphone's Sheraton and Sheraton II models which would include an infobox. The best pictures I could find were on Epiphone's website. These images are on the website for promotional purposes. None of the tags in the dropbox were suitable for any such image. Are promotional images found on official websites fair use? ufossuck 09:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Sadly, no. Wikipedia fair use criteria prohibit fair use claims of photographs that could be recreated under a free-license. That is, copyrighted promotional stills of the guitar are a no-go. If you were to create a free-license alternative by, say, taking a picture of the same guitar at some store, then that would be acceptable. ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 09:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of which, there's a perfectly good free-license alternative right here. ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 09:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC) (now at commons: Image:Epiphone Sheraton II.jpg ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 09:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC))

Would any pictures taken by random people of guitars, their's or otherwise, which they posted on the internet be fair use? And finally would pictures used on online stores, such as musiciansfriend be fair use?

Yes, unless the photographer explicitly releases his/her work under a free license or there is verification that the photo is in the public domain. Almost all photographs found on random internet websites and online stores are not released under a free-license - they are copyrighted and replaceable. ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 10:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

To clarify: Yes, you'd have to claim fair use on them; No, you can't do that on Wikipedia because of WP:FUC. ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 10:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

• Fair use is a clause in US copyright law that allows very restricted use of copyrighted material in certain cases. Whether something is posted on the internet has no bearing on its copyright status. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

There's a common misunderstanding that fair use is a kind of photograph or kind of copyright. It isn't: it's a way of doing things that would otherwise be a breach of copyright. For example, a reviewer of a book can quote a small section of the book for the purposes of a review. That doesn't make that quote into fair use so anyone else could put it on their web site, for example; it applies in just that case.

In the same way, a fair use photo in Wikipedia is a photo for which a specific reason has been described in detail, why this use is fair, despite being (otherwise) copyright theft. Great care is needed, and Wikipedia tries to avoid fair use photos whenever necessary: generally using them only when the illustration is necessary and could not be got another way.

Often an editor is so concerned to get a photo that they bend the rules, but this is not good for the encyclopedia. Wikipedia's fair use rules have been rather loosely enforced, but the signs are that we will in the end lose almost all our fair use celebrity photos, movie stills, CD and book covers etc.

It's also worth noting that almost everything gets automatic copyright, so photos you find on the web will almost certainly be copyright, whether they say so or not. Notinasnaid 10:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I would suggest finding the guitars in somebody's possession or in a store, and taking photos yourself. That's the easiest solution. Then you can release them for Wikipedia use. Corvus cornix 21:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

problem about fales mail

sir i am getting fales mail regarding that you have give us the prize near about 20000000 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.95.172.103 (talk) 10:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

Thank you for your message. Do you have a question about Wikipedia? Notinasnaid 11:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

See Advance fee fraud, Category:Confidence tricks. --Teratornis 17:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Help!

I have come across a new user named Frenchhog. He/she had blanked his/her talk page, which had warnings on it. I reverted his/her talk page, and warned him not to do it unless he (or she) clearing up vandalism. Frenchhog blanked it again, and I reverted it and gave him another warning. Then he/she edited my warning to make me say I'm gay. I reverted that, and now he/she has created an attack page on me. Was I doing the right thing? Please help! --LuigiManiac | Talk 13:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

No need to worry about the attack page thing anymore. It has been deleted. Still, was I doing the right thing before? Should I have backed off and let him vandalize? --LuigiManiac | Talk 16:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like you're on solid ground in this case, but I would check WP:TALK and related pages for talk page policy (which, I guess would be more applicable than vandalism policy in this instance) Adrian M. H. 19:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I have found a little bit of info under Types of vandalism, which may help. Adrian M. H. 19:17, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it was decided that removing warnings from one's own talk page is not vandalism. However, there are discussions quite often as to whether or not we should change this. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 19:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I guess I will make sure to say sorry to him/her if he/she ever becomes active again for starting this mess. That is kind of surprising that it isn't considered vandalism to blank pages. I personally would keep any warnings on my user talk page, unless it was placed there wrongfully. Ah well, I know now so next time hopefully I can avoid getting into another mess. Thanks again! --LuigiManiac | Talk 19:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Redirecting

How do I make something redirect? Replay7 14:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

#REDIRECT [[Foo]] will redirect to the article Foo. I recommend adding a redirect template immediately after that (on the same line). − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 15:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

How to code this...

I need this in a drop down menu like this. I've tried but cannot get it to work for me. -- Darkest Hour 15:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

How do I a redirect for an organization's acronym?

I want to do a redirect for an organizations acronym which they are more known by so it redirects automatically to the full Wiki entry for it. How do I do this? Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Awb9h (talk • contribs) 16:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

Create the page normally, but on it all you have to put is #REDIRECT [[OrgName]] (with Orgname being the actual article name) --Maelwys 16:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Back to Top anchor link at the bottom of this page

It seems to have gone, but it is very useful. Can it/will it come back? Adrian M. H. 16:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Scratch that question - it has come back after my edit. Weird. Adrian M. H. 16:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

What Back to Top link? There isn't one on my screen. Dismas|^(talk) 17:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, I suddenly have one now... I swear it wasn't there a minute ago. Dismas|^(talk) 17:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

And now it's gone again... Someone must be working on it. Dismas|^(talk) 17:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, at least it's not just me going crazy! Adrian M. H. 17:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

How to code this...

I need this in a drop down menu like this. I've tried but cannot get it to work for me. -- Darkest Hour 15:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

You need css for dropdown menus. I have some in my monobook if you want to look. (userfunctions). Prodego ^talk 20:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Help Search

How do I search for help? Renaissance Man 17:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

• Well if you want help, you're in the right place. Ask your question here. —Dark•Shikari^[T] 17:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Searching - Adrian M. H. 17:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia has links to articles that answer most questions a new user might have, although a new user might not know which article answers his or her question. You can search the Help desk archives and find quite a lot that way. Most questions a new user tends to ask have have been asked by new users before, although not always with the exact same wording, of course. Nonetheless, you can find a lot in the Help desk archives just by typing questions in the Google search form (with the usual techniques to expand the search when necessary, such as by removing some search words, not using quotes, and trying synonyms). Read the instructions at the top of this page for more ways to search for help. If you get stuck, ask for human help here. --Teratornis 18:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Help I have "This article or section does not adequately cite its references or sources." on my page

So I need a little help. I have a Wikipedia page for a TV show on Directv that I love called The Fizz. I have found 8 or 10 articles about the show, from Varity, to news papers. What I don't know is how to cite the references. I'm not sure if i should quote the sites or list the links at the end of the page? Please help me,

Greg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Love4musicandgames (talk • contribs) 17:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

WP:REF, or look at other pages that use proper refs. The footnote style is preferred, in which you would have - for an example - the page title with a hyperlink, then the name of the website, the publish date if available, and then the retrieval date. Basically, follow the templates with as many fields as you have, but you do not need to use the templates (it is much quicker and easier without them). Adrian M. H. 18:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

• There's also Wikipedia:Citation templates, but the main thing to do would be providing the sources. If you get that template, it usually means there aren't any or they lack the detail needed for someone else to track them down. Please check the page I mentioned and see the sort of info you need to take down about a source. The most important thing is that you provide it, if you're uncomfortable with templates, someone else can do the formatting for you. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
  • At the very least, give the links with a slight description of what they are in a "references" or "sources" section at the end of the article. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 19:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Why Wikipedia is very frustrating to use.

If a person wants to help and then edit, someone writes over it and then all the work you put into is changed without your input. So do free work and get nothing from it, and no say so.75.82.243.165 20:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

You shouldn't be bothered because, well, if it improves an encyclopedia then improvement is always better. Also, any edits you make to a page do not make that page your own. x42bn6 Talk 20:52, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

If a contributor's edits are genuinely good quality, constructive, and per guidelines, then they are almost certain to stay. If another contributor thinks that an edit is not suitable for whatever some reason - maybe it does not maintain the current style/language, or it is questionable and not verified, for example - then they may well remove it or modify it. That's how it goes. Adrian M. H. 21:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

According to WP:WIF#Maintenance of standards, there are (or were at the time of writing) 340 former featured articles, so that more than 20% of all articles that have ever been featured are no longer featured. Unless the standards for featured articles have risen, the presence of former featured articles suggests that those post-FA edits were not as good as the earlier edits, and the good quality of those earlier edits did not insure their survival.

This is not a criticism of Wikipedia; obviously, Wikipedia does a lot of things right, because millions of people use it every day (in particular, I routinely use the software and computing articles as valuable references in my job, and when I see a way to improve one, I do). I'm just pointing out to 75.82.243.165 that not only does it take a lot of hard work to do the right things on Wikipedia, but even if you manage to do all the right things, your work may still get clobbered by other editors whose work is less good. Wikipedia has lots of articles edited by lots of people. Different parts of Wikipedia may be at different levels of compliance with Wikipedia policies. Some topics are more controversial than others. Maybe in some topic areas, "constructive" edits are not necessarily the most popular.

A word of advice to 75.82.243.165: when you express a non-specific complaint, responses tend to be equally non-specific, and may not apply to your specific situation. While it is true that in general, Wikipedia tends to improve as more people edit it, the improvement is not necessarily monotone increasing nor uniform everywhere. Special:Contributions/75.82.243.165 does not show the edits you allude to; perhaps you edited under another IP address. If you tell us the article(s) in question and show us the diffs, experienced editors can review the edits, determine whether the following editors should have done what they did, and either explain the likely reasons or tell you how to find out.

Depending on which parts of Wikipedia one edits, and what one does, Wikipedia might be a rewarding experience, or a nightmare. Because of Wikipedia's remarkably high profile, it is, for many people, the first wiki they try editing on; Wikipedia may be the first wiki they become aware of. However, Wikipedia does not attempt to be everything for everyone. It is actually a very specialized wiki with policies that probably only a tiny minority of people could really be happy with. Who do we know in real life who maintains anything resembling a neutral point of view? That is not a natural way to think, it's an acquired skill, and it takes time and effort to acquire. If everyone habitually maintained NPOV, as in actually thinking that way, society would be completely different. For example, politics and religion as we currently know them are typically about as far from NPOV as anything can be.

So, once again I trot out my advice for disgruntled Wikipedia editors: try some other wikis in addition to Wikipedia. Lots of wikis specialize in particular types of subject matter (games, sports, music, politics, causes, etc.), cater to particular points of view, don't mind original work, and so on. Several wikis originated in response to Wikipedia rejecting classes of content (such as videogame walkthroughs). A person with cognitive biases (which is to say, a normal person) will probably find it more enjoyable to edit on a wiki run by people with similar cognitive biases.

Of course I still recommend editing on Wikipedia to anyone; it's a great intellectual exercise. But a certain scaling down of expectations is necessary here. Wikipedia is a zoo. (Picture what would happen if true believers in all the different religions were forced to worship together in one big room, rather than isolated from each other in their respective churches, temples, and mosques: "diversity + proximity = war".) The fact that anyone can edit almost anything means almost anything can happen. Don't view your edits as an achievement, but as an experiment. You're not editing so much to create something with lasting value, as to see how other people react to what you write. You are painting on a graffiti wall. Your masterpiece might end up buried under 50 layers of other people's paint. Wait long enough, and that's almost guaranteed to happen. If Wikipedia should last 100 years, how much of today's content would survive that long unchanged? --Teratornis 17:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Maps

Dear Sir,

I would like a map of two Cities or Villages which ever term for the location would be proper and they are: Szynwald in the Woj. of Krakow but was in the Woj. of Tarnow and a map of Zdzary in the woj.Zamosc but once was the woj of Tarnow. Any questions, please ask and I will answer.

Thank You

Jerome Kowalski <e-mail address removed>

You would be better off asking this at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities, as the Help Desk is for Wikipedia-related questions only. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 21:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Corrected wikilink for you. x42bn6 Talk 21:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

See: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Map. --Teratornis 17:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Which cite template or formate to use

If I want to make a footnote to reference the following link, which 'cite' template should I use? or what format should I put it in? File:DEA Marijuana May 2006.pdf

Thanks,

ChristopherMannMcKay 21:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I prefer not to use templates, but simply structure my refs according to the relevant (or most relevant) template. Off the top of my head, I would suggest following the journal template as a guide, but your information will be dictated by what you have available (for example, a website ref will often lack a publish date). Adrian M. H. 21:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Revise that slightly: I did not notice that your ref is actually an image - I assumed from the suffix that it was a PDF document. I'm not sure that you would even use an image as a ref, though I guess it would depend on the context. How/why do you want to refer to it? Adrian M. H. 21:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

• It's not an image, It is PDF, but it won't show entirely unless you click the link. You should refer to the PDF on its original location. Never upload source documents to Wikipedia. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

So, the file (which I didn't upload) says it is from the DEA web site, so should I just make a cite tag and list the publisher as the DEA? Thanks -ChristopherMannMcKay 14:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Something strange

There something weird about the Wilhelm Volk article. It includes info about another person, but when I go to edit it, it doesn't show the second biography. Clarityfiend 21:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

You're right! How weird is that?? I have no idea how or why that has happened. Adrian M. H. 21:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism at Template:Nonfiction-writer-stub: [2] Nasty vandalism. Reverted, by the way. And purged template to force refresh over all articles. x42bn6 Talk 21:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I just came to the same conclusion. I removed the stub notice and previewed it on a hunch, and it fixed it. I have left the stub notice in place though, just in case it screws up someone else's stub sorting. Adrian M. H. 21:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

What about Oliver August? He seems to be a notable person who doesn't have an entry. Should someone add the article? Clarityfiend 21:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Why not? If he's worthy of inclusion, go for it! Adrian M. H. 22:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Just don't stick it in the template. x42bn6 Talk 22:28, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. Clarityfiend 22:47, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Strangely enough, the person who put the article in the stub edited the article in good faith. I feel bad about the warning now.  :-/ x42bn6 Talk 00:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Posting in Wikipedia

I need help. I am not stupid but I have dyslexia and I have trouble understanding some collections of information - even if they are simply presented. I want to post articles. I do not want anyone else altering my articles directly. Some will be copyrighted. I DO, however, want errors to be pointed out publically, near to my articles, so I can correct what I write or dispute the critism. I mean text errors such as spelling errors, errors of clarity, fact and so on. Is this possible?

I am a psychotherapist, natural therapist and teacher. My subjects of principal interest are Natural Childbirth (my PhD research topic - completed, I graduate at SCU Australia in September '07), trauma management, especially suicide prevention and berievement, often among marginalised prople and those close to them. I want to include links and references and, when possible, to incourage constructive comment and discussion.

Your help and advice would be appreciated.

Leigh Dick-Read —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LeighOx (talk • contribs) 23:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

Hi, this may not be a complete answer, but - any article you post in Wikipedia will, in fact, be altered by others, this is the way that Wikipedia works. You can expect your article posted here to be entirely rewritten by others over time. Perhaps another website would be more appropriate for you, there must be other places where you can get your writing evaluated by others without them changing it. Maybe someone else here can think of some. --Xyzzyplugh 23:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, Wikipedia will not accept copyright material, sorry. I hope you do find a more suitable place. Notinasnaid 23:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

We do accept copyrighted material as long as the owner is willing to release it under a free license which this person clearly isn't. You could try Citizendium. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

AfD debate categories

When nominating an article for AfD, one is supposed to choose which category to put the deletion discussion page in. There is a list of possible categories, which are Media and music, Organisation corporation or product, Biographical, Society topics, Web or internet, Games or sports, Science and technology, Fiction and the arts, and Places and transportation. I can't find a single page anywhere on Wikipedia which explains further what should go in each category, there's nothing but a name for them. Is there such a page anywhere? Half the time I AfD something, I have no idea which category to put it in. --Xyzzyplugh 23:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Go here. Real96 23:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Well yes, that's where I got the list of category names from, that is linked to from the main AfD page. That page gives no explanation of what belongs in each AfD deletion category. --Xyzzyplugh 23:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I would like to know the same thing, as this is an issue in other instances when an article does not really fit in existing categories. There seems to be no descriptive advice regarding categorisation for AfD, GA, etc. Adrian M. H. 16:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

March 22

Moving article to more appropriate category

Kept for other's reference How do I move an article I recently created to a more appropriate category?

The article is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Packer

I think it would fit better in this category: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Agricultural_magazines

That category is where it would be more relevant.

Thanks. Clarence Rutherford 00:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If you clik "Edit this page", at the bottom there is written something like [[Category:Example]]. You change the category name, and the article is recategorised. The Evil Clown _{Please review me!} 00:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Figured out answer. Thanks anyway.

Clarence Rutherford 00:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Inserting images

I can't for the life of me figure out how to insert a picture can you please help? Also, is there a way to have active links to my web sites without those little arrows that appear currently. Thanks so much for your help!!! Jim Paymar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jepay (talk • contribs) 11:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Images for information. In reply to your second question, no, you cannot have external links without the little arrows. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 02:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It might also be worth reading Wikipedia:External links. While you can add external links to a Wikipedia article, you must not add links to your own site at all! Notinasnaid 10:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Userpage

helpme to set up my userpage - please direct me to an example of a well-written one... tx, RS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rstrawn (talk • contribs) 11:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

You can find a lot of help at Wikipedia:Userpages and Wikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 02:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• Days before it got axed, I received the Esperanza Userpage Award, so my userpage might be worth taking a look at. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If you need any more help place {{helpme}} on your userpage. Scottydude 16:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Compound Interest

Hi. My Name is Zaheer. How can i find the Interest Rate in the Compound Interest Formula.

E.g: Find the simple interest on 2 years and 3 months loan of Rs.100,000 which has an annual interest rate of 12%?

Although this is not categorized here, you can find more information here. Real96 05:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Help me create a template

Hi, I've been editing here for a long time, but I have no idea how to create a template. Frankly, I don't understand why the relevant project page doesn't explain it for dummies like me. What I want to do is the following. Most articles that contain chess notation have a clunky note in parentheses, somewhere in the article, "(see algebraic chess notation." I thought it would be better to replace or augment those with a simple template at the top of the article that says:

This article uses algebraic chess notation.

That's as technically unsophisticated as it gets. Can someone explain to me how to write the code? YechielMan 05:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Ooh, check the template page. Real96 05:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If you want to write a template that adds the same text every time (like you do), go to the page [[Template:name of template]] and type the text that you want to add there, and it should work. --ais523 09:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Is there a way to sort the page alphabetically or by some other factor such as population

I'm specifically talking about this article: List of languages of Nigeria It would be nice to be able to sort languages alphabetically or by population. Is there a way to do that without creating another page and another list ? Of course I understand that the population data must be added to the list. For example Yoruba is a very popular language in Nigeria, used by about 20 million people, but appears at the end of the alphabetical list.--Mike Sorensen 05:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes there is Help:Sorting.--Commander Keane 05:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, very cool.--Mike Sorensen 07:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Walker, Texas Ranger, General Information about the Actor

While I am not in any way, shape, or form a professional when it comes to Karate (I hold no belt except for the one that holds up my pants), when you say that Walker ends a fight with a roundhouse kick I believe that the correct definition is a backward roundhouse kick. I could be wrong about this and am not attempting to be smart or dogmatic, but would simply like you to check it out with someone who is a Black Belt in one of the forms of Karate that he uses and see if I am not right in this matter? I believe that these sort of things are very important when you are writing a encyclopedia and therefore highly suggest that you check into this right away and after researching the issue, if it is warranted, make the change if it is deemed a more accurate call. Writing an Encyclopedia is a huge and unbelievably difficult task and I salute you in your efforts toward this end. While I certainly respect you in this process, I know that I certainly would not attempt such a task myself. But I do wish you only the best in your efforts towards this very public medium with everything expected to be letter perfect afterwards. Thank you and continue the good work172.191.78.202 09:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)Michael G. Murphy.

adding canals

I want to place a train track over a canal do you know the code for this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ucebaggie (talk • contribs) 09:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

• If you're a professional train track builder, you should know this, if you're not, I'm guessing this is related to a game, but without more information I don't know which one you're referring too. Either way, this question should go to the reference desk. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Requesting an article

Is there anyway that you could have someone else write an article that you want? Such as "National" Goof Off Day which is March 22

See Wikipedia:Requested articles. --ais523 11:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Information Request

Hi

I have noticed that my name are apearing several times on Wikipedia i therefor recomend you to incooporate the following:

Stefan G. Rasmussen Born 23rd of July 1947 in Randers, Denmark Trained as pilot in Danish Air force, Graduated from Williams Air Force Base, Arizona 8th of September 1973 class 74-01. Employed I SAS September 1979. On December 27, 1991, he was the Captain of SAS flight 751, a MD-81, OY-KHO who crashlanded at Gottröra, Sweden. In the initial climb both engines ingested ice breaking loose from the wings, which had not been properly deiced before departure. Both engines destroyed, leaving the aircraft with no propulsion. The aircraft landed in a field and broke in three parts. No fire broke out and all aboard the plane survived. Captain Stefan G. Rasmussen was later decorated by the Danish Queen for his outstanding and professional performance. Beside of that Stefan G. Rasmussen has received several recognitions like: IATA Polaris Award, IAPA Outstanding Service Award, Aviation Week & Space Tecnologi Laurals Award and Hall of Fame recognition, The Golden Medal from the Swedish King. Stefan G. Rasmussen was a member of The Danish Parliament from 1994 – 96 but had to stop due to a strong suffers from a Tinnitus he got after the SAS flight 751 incident. Today he is a sough lecturer, and author.

• See WP:AFC. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:BIO explains the rules as to who warrants a biography.

• WP:BIO#Primary criterion says: A person is notable if he or she has been the subject of secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent,Template:Fn and independent of the subject.

Therefore, you can help by supplying references to published works that establish the above claims, some of which already appear in Wikipedia articles (see below).

It looks as if an eponymous User:Stefan G. Rasmussen has already started a biography for Stefan G. Rasmussen (which at the moment needs wikifying). Beware WP:COI, but others should be able to edit it into an objective biography if published references are available for all the facts. Here are some links to assist with improving it:

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography gives full details about how to write biography articles.
• This Google search finds two previously existing articles containing "Stefan G. Rasmussen":
  • Scandinavian Airlines Flight 751
  • Scandinavian Airlines System
• WP:BIO#Articles on Wikipedians also applies, since there is a Stefan G. Rasmussen article now, and a User:Stefan G. Rasmussen.

--Teratornis 23:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Repeat of old question

A while back, I asked a question related to this and started a short conversation about it, but never got the answer to this one small curiosity: Is it true that it's in no way a "bad" redundancy for an article to have a stub category in addition to the "regular version" of that category (such as Dinosaur stubs and Dinosaurs)? Or that, furthermore, this should basically be required, given that the stub category will disappear as soon as the stub template does, but the other one will not? If this is indeed the case, someone should put that information in black and white on the stub sorting page, because it seems a lot of users don't realize this, given the number of categorized stubs tagged with the Uncategorizing bot. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 14:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion, stub categories don't count towards {{uncat}}, just as maintenance categories don't, and catting as well as stubbing is a good option, but I'm not sure if there's been a consensus on this. You might want to bring this up at the stub-sorting talk page to see what people there think. --ais523 14:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Telephone numbers

There are telephone numbers in the article on Hastinapura. Is this ok? 207.134.250.140 14:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Telephone numbers, email addresses and other personal infos are generally not allowed on Wikipedia. I went to the Hastinapura page, and found out that it had undergone several vandalisms since 5 February. I have edited the article and removed it. Thanks for informing here. --Joshua Chiew 14:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, good to know. 207.134.250.140 15:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Twin Peaks

Briefly. Stumbled upon the Wiki Twin Peaks entry while refreshing my memory prior to doing an on-camera interview for a new Twin Peaks DVD set (finally, the whole show in one box). The details regarding the second season are exactly backwards. David was far more present during the second season than the first -- the 'debunked' reason for his supposed absence in season two (he was busy with Wild At Heart) is in fact why he was otherwise engaged during much of the first season of production. In truth, it was Mark Frost who was busy elsewhere during the latter half of the second season, as he was prepping his directorial debut (Storyville).

It follows, of course, that none of the writers resented David's 'return' as he never went away. I am sending this not only to correct the error, but because the error itself seems a purposeful attempt to rewrite history.

Thanks for all your good work.

Harley Peyton (Writer, Producer, Twin Peaks) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.183.134.200 (talk) 14:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

May I suggest that you edit it. With your personal experience it seems that you would be a good contributer to the article. I would suggest getting a user account and editing the page. Scottydude 16:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• Remember that articles need to cite reliable sources. Did you ever say this in an interview you can mention? If not, you should probably wait and cite the DVD interview as the source. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Starting new pages.

Hello, I've only contributed to entries that were up already and never a new one of my own http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Frisky_Dingo_episodes most of the info is there but I want to start a new page for each of the episodes to add longer summaries and cultural references. So how does one go about doing that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ta3kris (talk • contribs) 14:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

• I believe you just type in the name of the article you want to create into the search box and press go. If there is no page with that name, near the top of the page, under the search box and "No page with that title exists" it will say something about creating a page with that name, and provide a red link to the article-to-be. Just click on that red link to start editing the page. --LuigiManiac | Talk 15:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Also see here. Scottydude 16:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

font problem

Wikipedia appears on my computer at work in a Bradley Hand font for some reason. Can you tell me how to change that. It's only the Wikipedia site that does this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 136.142.131.25 (talk) 15:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

It could be that the computer at work has a custom skin or that the computer is set to view the site in a different font type. Scottydude 16:28, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

history

origin of american and canadian immigrants from 1870-1910 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Saulawa (talk • contribs) 16:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

This page is not for this! See the Reference desk. Scottydude 17:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Moving a page (not an faq)

Every now and then, i've seen a page moved over a redirect by many users, yet if i try, it seems to refuse and so require admin action. What is going on? It seems like some of these users are not admins and some are newcomers. Simply south 16:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Can you better explain what problem you have experienced? Any editor (after 4 days) can move a page, as you probably know, so it should always work. If you can provide a bit more specific information, maybe someone can shed light on it? Adrian M. H. 17:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Admins can move a page over a redirect whatever the circumstance. Other autoconfirmed (4+-day-old) users can move a page over a redirect only if

• the move reverses the redirect, and
• there is only one entry in the redirect's edit history.

Otherwise, use {{db-move}} on the redirect to request an admin to reverse it. Hope that helps! --ais523 17:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I think i see, thanks. Simply south 17:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect float in Internet Explorer

This relates to the following article: Northampton & Lamport Railway.

At the top of the page, on the right hand side is Template:Heritage Railway, followed by a line diagram (see WP:TRAIL). Between the two I have used Template:Clearright so that the line diagram appears on the right, below the infobox. When I previewed and saved the page it looked fine (using Firefox 1.5).

Internet Explorer 7 renders the page incorrectly, displaying the linemap on the right of the page but to the left of the infobox, so left to right you would see TEXT|LINEMAP|INFOBOX. Any way to get this looking right in IE?

-=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 17:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if its what you were looking for but I moved the map into a different part of the text so it floats below the data table at the start of the article. Hope this helps! Scottydude 17:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Problem with the confirmation from Czech Wikipedia.

Dear Wiki, I've received the following text to confirm my registration to Wikipedia Czech:

Někdo (patrně vy, z IP adresy 89.13.33.205) si registroval účet se jménem "Hucul" a touto e-mailovou adresou na Wikipedii.

Pokud si přejete aktivovat e-mailové funkce na Wikipedii, tak pro potvrzení, že tato adresa opravdu patří vám, přejděte svým internetovým prohlížečem na následující adresu:

http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speci%C3%A1ln%C3%AD:Confirmemail/368f51538d32e83eb39df15ec7e43ab9

Pokud jste o toto potvrzení *nežádali*, neklikejte na předchozí odkaz. Platnost tohoto potvrzovacího kódu vyprší 07:30, 27. 3. 2007.

However, the link does not work. I think the problem is in using the local Czech symbols in the link. What should I do?

Thank you. Best regards Jana —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.13.33.91 (talk) 17:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

You can use 'canonical names' to get round problems with browsers in certain languages: Speci%C3%A1ln%C3%AD:Confirmemail can become Special:Confirmemail. Changing the link to 'Special:Confirmemail' and visiting it, your email seems to have been confirmed, so you should be able to use email features on now. Hope that helps! --ais523 17:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Timeline Missing w/ No Reference

There seemed to have been confusion re Timeline of fictional future events. There was a two-member support (discussion 23 October 2006) for splitting the article due to inconsistancies in the ' tense ' of the submissions.

HOWEVER, List of fictional timelines, along with Category:Fictional timelines, make NO reference to the split or any similar OVERALL general-fiction timeline.

Since the original timeline is pretty rich & involved in interesting references, why not go beyond the ' tense ' problem & just re-label it as General Fictional Events Timeline or something similar, that offers no ' tense ' confusion ?

You'll notice that List of fictional timelines is a LIST of timeLINES, while my suggestion General Fictional Events Timeline is a SINGLE timeline of GENERAL fictional EVENTS (a change from the original title, the defunct page Timeline of fictional future events).

The original page's content is still rich in detail, with an amazing, general overall review, WHENever the events occur, as a group, in one place. It's content could be re-activated with a suggested title-change and a non-confusing introduction (WHENever proclaimed fictional events/predictions are made, for whatever period, they're still fictional).

I'm thinking this would alleviate the ' tense ' confusion.

4.155.30.60 18:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Links overlap other text in Firefox - articles unreadable!

Certain Wikipedia articles display links in such a way that they overlap the surround text, rendering the article essentially unreadable.

This happens on no other web pages that I ever visit, and not on every Wiki page.

I'm running Firefox/1.5.0.11, MacOS X, Unicode (UTF-8)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.166.143.124 (talk) 18:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

There is a new version of firefox, which might fix this. http://getfirefox.com It could also be problems with Wikipedia. If you could point out the specific pages where this happens, that might help. — coelacan — 19:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I have the new version - installed it today, to no good effect...and the pages I'm having problems with include *this* one.

Here's a screenshot of a worse offender:

[3]

I've been using Firefox to edit for the past few days, and I do not appear to be having any problems of the sort. I am using version 2.0.0.3 I think. --LuigiManiac | Talk 20:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• I don't see anything obvious in the html source that should cause that. I suspect there is a problem with CSS on the A tags, but I couldn't guess whether the problem is on this end or your end. If you have the patience for it I suggest filing bug reports at both projects, http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/bugs and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bugzilla . Sorry I can't be of more assistance. — coelacan — 20:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
• Do you have any Greasemonkey scripts, display altering extensions running or other settings that alter the display of links. I think a change to the CSS of your links is causing this. I have no such problems in Firefox, so it's likely something on your system. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

mega newbie question

Ahem. Err, hi there. What does the little red ka-thwang thingy --> ! <-- mean on the recent changes page? Bmackenty 18:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It means that nobody has checked the change to make sure that it isn't vandalism yet. (By the way, these 'patrol marks' aren't used on the English Wikipedia, but they are on some of the smaller ones.) --ais523 18:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

The top of Special:Recentchanges has a tiny-font link to Help:Recent changes, which explains all thingies on the Recent changes page. --Teratornis 23:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Multiple interlanguage links to same language

Sometimes an article in one language corresponds to two (or more) articles in another language. It is possible to insert multiple interlanguage links, but is it a good idea? I have not been able to find information or guidelines on this, although I recall seeing it somewhere... Also, at least one iw-robot, which shall remain nameless, removes such links. I would appreciate any information on this. /SvStorebror 18:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd say it's probably a bad idea due to the confusion that will result amongst users who see the same language name twice in the interwiki box. Wikipedia:Interlanguage links doesn't seem to have an opinion on its matter; asking on its talk page might be a good idea. --ais523 18:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe that there are also bots that do work with these and I've heard that adding multiple links to the same language can mess them up. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 19:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• The box only lists the language, you can't see where it leads, so more than one link is going to cause confusion. I don't think it's a good idea and yes, it would royally mess up bots. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio?

The body of the text for Rivendell (software) is copied word-for-word from the Rivendell site, but it isn't spam, since it appears to be freeware. Should anything be done? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Clarityfiend (talk • contribs) 19:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

i'm really not sure. The software is free, but the license only applies to software. However, there is little to no assertion of notablity and the only source is the company website, so it would most likely fail an AFD Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 20:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, even if the software does pass notability, the text is copyvio and needs to be deleted. I've tagged it WP:CSD#G12 as there was nothing without copyvio to revert to. — coelacan — 20:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• Freeware can spam too. Spam is defined as "unsolicited or undesired bulk electronic messages". It's not bulk but certainly unsolicited and unwanted. The fact it's free has nothing to do with it. It's still inappriopriate advertising. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Weird user and user talk pages: are these OK?

I would like some advice from more experienced editors about a couple of strange pages that I stumbled across. I was looking at Category:Online service providers yesterday and noticed that it included User:EOffice and User talk:EOffice. That seemed very strange to me; user and user talk pages aren't normally included in categories of encyclopedia articles, right? So I examined those pages, and they don't contain information about a user. Instead, both pages contain a brief description of a company called eOffice, including a link to the company's website. I thought, "These pages exist only to bring traffic from Category:Online service providers to the eOffice website. They are ads. And I'll bet they were created as user pages in order to bypass the scrutiny that a new article would receive."

Trying to decide what to do, I read Wikipedia:Deletion policy and saw that blatant advertising was considered grounds for speedy deletion. So I added a speedy deletion template to User:EOffice.

Today I see that an admin has simply deleted the template with the edit summary "not csd". I'm confused. Does this mean that these pages are perfectly OK, and I'm concerned for no good reason? Or does it mean that I should have done something other than nominate them for speedy deletion? Perhaps "blatant advertising" wasn't the best way to describe them. But I still think the pages are not valid user and user talk pages, they don't belong in Category:Online service providers, and they exist only to promote a company's website. If I'm wrong, please tell me. Thanks. Pat Berry 19:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It may not have been quite advert-y enough to warrant speedy deletion. I would suggest taking it to WP:MFD. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 20:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

They certainly didn't belong in the categories, and they have now been removed. I would also have thought they qualified for CSD, but every reviewing admin's opinion is a little different. I agree with Mr.Z-man, these can be taken to WP:MFD and that certainly seems appopriate. — coelacan — 20:10, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Editing a page

I entered several paragraphs on the page about the Undertone Series, but when the sections appeared on the website, a large part of it got relegated into the footnote section instead of in the main text. I must have entered a reference wrongly, although I don't see what's wrong with in my original text, which I pasted in. Can you help me straighten it out? Graham H. Jackson

You had the <ref/> in some of them, it should be </ref>. Also, you say you "copied it in." From where? Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 20:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks--I am new at this. I copied it from my own text, which I had drafted in Microsoft Word before entering it. No, I was not plagiarizing!76.64.131.139 23:26, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Lock on editing

How do I set up the 'Lock on Editing" mode? I am preparing to edit a Wikipedia page on Rose Stone. This is done by the direction of the artist. I don't want the information to be tampered with or changed.

However it is acceptable if someone wants to email me with other information.

Thank you (----) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Summerbentley1 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

Only administrators can protect pages. Also, be very careful about editing people's pages at their request, especially if it is to remove negative information. Also, keep in mind that nobody, not even the subject of a page, owns it. Why can't these changes be discussed with the community? Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 22:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict)You can't have a page protected just so you can edit it. You can use {{inuse}} to deter other editors. Also, you really shouldn't edit "by the direction of the artist." Whatever you add needs to be attributable to a reliable source. Also read WP:COI first to make sure what you add isn't a conflict of interest. If you are doing more than correcting obvious factual errors, I would suggest a note on the talk page and a comment to WikiProject Biography for guidance. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 22:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

How to add to "Category: Political advocacy groups in the United States"

Hi--

I would like to add a couple organizations, Radical Women and the Freedom Socialist Party, to your lists of "Women's Advocacy Groups" and "Political Advocacy Groups." Both groups have Wikipedia pages and web pages. I don't see any way to edit these lists.

Thanks--HG —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.212.68.27 (talk) 22:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

Add [[Category:Women's advocacy groups]] and [[Category:Political advocacy groups]] to the pages, preferably in a group with any other categories. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 22:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

More click [Edit] and scroll down to where the other cats are. Then add them. OvrLoad 22:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

How do you get User:AzaToth/twinklearv.js to work??????

It will not wokr. I copied it to my monobook still no happiness what is wrong. How do you even use it???? Crap, I'v been at this problem all day and still no luck please tell me, because I'm about to punch my computer lights out...(ha ha ha Literally eh?). --OvrLoad 22:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• Go to WP:TWINKLE, it only works if you include the all the lines it lists. (By using the "include" code you don't have to copy all the text and it will be automatically updated if the original files get altered. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:53, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Are you using Firefox? It only works in Firefox and not Internet Explorer. -- Hdt83 | Talk 23:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

More citations needed?

The article Aqua Teen Hunger Force failed a GA nomination; one of the two reasons was because of not enough citations (the other reason is the then instability, which is no longer an issue). How many citations does it need? What statements need citations? Do I need a citation for every sentence? Every word? How many?!?

Can someone look at the article and add a {{fact}} tag to anything that you think needs it? Then I can add the necessary citations and get this thing through GA. I think that it's fine; nothing else that I think could use another citation.. :: ZJH ^{(T C E)} 23:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

What I meant by not enough citations was that some sections had inline cites, some didn't. Inline citations are not a requirement for GA, but all of the references are associated with one or more inline cites. There is nothing for the rest of the article, which suggests there are no sources for the rest of the article. If the existing citations can verify the all of the article, just add more inlines, or the lazy way, get rid of all the inlines and use a general "References" section (not recommended). For example, the "Overview" section:

• Overview 3 citations
• Origins 0 citations
• Title 2 citations
• Cold openings 0 citations

Hope this helps -- Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 23:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Why does a user's contributions page…

…not list since-deleted articles? $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 23:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Because when the articles are deleted, the contributions page doesn't see the edit anymore. But there wouldn't be any links to see anyway. Prodego ^talk 23:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

March 23

Image permission

I had the following text in an email from the United Nations Photo Librarian:

You have our permission to use UN photos in Wikipedia. Please make sure each one is credited as follows: UN Photo/photographer's name (if available). Thank you.

Does this mean that I have permission to use all UN photos on Wikipedia? Can I just grab any UN photo and make sure that it's properly credited? Also, what licensing should I use?--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 00:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

We'd need licensing for all pictures; Wikipedia-only use is incompatible with the GFDL. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 00:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

pork butt smells yummy. Steve Urkel said this was true and scientific.