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I do not authorize a wiki page: Dorothy Ruiz Martinez

Hello, how do I report a wiki page? I do not authorize the page, it is using my personal information, and I want to remove it from Wikipedia. The page is Dorothy Ruiz Martinez. I tried to make edits to the page at least to protect my privacy, and to remove inaccurate information, but every time I publish the final edits, it reverts back to the original article. Some user Molly Polly is reverting back the page. I do not authorize any personal information on this page. How do I remove it?

Thank you! Rafaela Mars (talk) 05:27, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

@Rafaela Mars: Welcome to the Teahouse! I'm sorry you're having problems with the Dorothy Ruíz Martínez article. The information at Wikipedia:Contact us/Article subjects might be helpful. It's common for people to find that their edits have been reverted. Per the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, it's helpful to share your concerns on the article talk page: Talk:Dorothy Ruíz Martínez (with reliable sources, if possible). Since you have a conflict of interest, I suggest using the {{request edit}} template to ask other editors to help you improve the article. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 06:04, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! GoingBatty — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafaela Mars (talk • contribs) 06:14, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

@MollyPollyRolly, please remember to respect the privacy of personal information when dealing with non-public figures. The edit by @Rafaela Mars appears to have removed only unnecessary private information that is not of benefit to the reader, in addition to condensing down some parts that were overly wordy. If you have a problem with their edit, I suggest recovering the portions you don't agree with removing, rather than undoing their entire edit. ––FormalDude talk 06:08, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

@FormalDude: And please remember that when anybody removes references, that constitute usually as a form of vandalism and therefore was in need of being restored. I might be wrong in assuming bad faith of Rafaela Mars, but lets be honest; she didn't introduced herself as Dorothy Ruíz Martínez.--MollyPollyRolly (talk) 17:48, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

@MollyPollyRolly: Actually it's not a form of vandalism as explained here, particularly when you see an edit summary such as this; it might not have been the correct way for Rafaela Mars to try and approach things, but also automatically assuming that the disputed content automatically needs to be restored is also not automatically correct each and every time per WP:BLPEDIT. These types of situations happen more often then not, and sometimes it's better to try and slow things down a bit and get others involved to try and sort them out. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Rafaela Mars. Authorization by the subjects of Wikipedia biographies is not required and there is no process for that. Wikipedia contains biographies about people that Wikipedia editors conclude are notable, and we summarize what reliable, published sources say about various people. At this point, we have no way to verify that you are actually Martinez. If you want to verify your identity, you can contact Wikipedia:Volunteer Response Team. You are free to leave an edit request at Talk:Dorothy Ruíz Martínez as mentioned above noting inaccuracies in the article or anything that genuinely violates your privacy. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:25, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Rafaela Mars Much of the disputed information appears to have been sourced to an interview of Martinez, published in Familia in 2014. The reference is still used (#1). Whether any of that information is germane to an article about her life and career can be questioned, but there does appear to be a source. It is very common for articles to have a Personal life section in which spouses are named and number of children provided (but not named). David notMD (talk) 11:31, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Rafaela Mars. Please take a look at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Relationship between the subject, the article, and Wikipedia for more information, but there are ways for the subjects of articles to seek assistance from others when they have concerns about article content. It's also important to understand that Wikipedia articles are written about subjects and not for subjects, and this means that the subjects of articles have no claim of ownership over the article. That doesn't mean that anything goes, but it does mean that article content is going to be assessed in terms of relevant Wikipedia policy and guidelines and not based upon what the subject might want. This is one reason why the subjects of article are typically encouraged to seek assistance from the Wikipedia community at large when they have concerns about what's written about them; the subjects of articles might mean well but they just might not be familiar enough with Wikipedia to successfully correct any problems they think need fixing, which might actually not be problems at all from Wikipedia's viewpoint. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

I realize this is meta, but I think Wikipedia mishandles requests to delete BLPs when the subject objects. We seem to want the subject to prove they are not notable, and that's not quite right. It is paramount to respect Privacy here, a human right, and our presumption should lean towards privacy, not away from it. Rklahn (talk) 02:03, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE gives some support to that, but someone has to (in this case, since the article isn't glaringly awful atm) start the Afd. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:44, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

There are circumstances where a subject wants an article deleted because it paints them in an unflattering light due to the sourcing; an example from recent memory is Peter A. McCullough, who'd very much like that the article on him not mention the various COVID-related stuff he's said and (either he or someone working on his behalf) has attempted to get the article deleted in an effort to hide it. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 08:45, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

More shields needed in List of road routes in Victoria

Hello there, we need more shields in List of road routes in Victoria's list, can you add it? Mlik point (talk) 11:11, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

You appear to be successfully editing the article. Carry on. David notMD (talk) 11:26, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

There are shields needed for:

• A30
• A77
• A96
• B40
• B44
• B92
• B401
• B840
• B861
• B870
• B989
• C259
• C308
• C655
• C989
• C996

Can you upload it for me? Mlik point (talk) 11:55, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Mlik point, and welcome to the Teahouse. You are asking a selection of volunteers, most of whom have no interest in Victorian highways, if they will do a job that you can do yourself. If you look at File:AUS Alphanumeric Route A39.svg, you can see where that one came from, and the justification which ws used for uploading it to Wikipedia. You can use the upload wizard to upload the others. Alternativbely, you might find somebody at WikiProject Australia who is interested in working with you to do it. --ColinFine (talk) 13:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

We have added red links for upload files for Talk:List of road routes in Victoria, can you do it? Mlik point (talk) 01:42, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Mlik point: You might also want to ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian Roads. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:13, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion for a change to a template

Is this the wrong place for me to offer a suggestion?

If so (OR, if this idea has already been "considered" and rejected ... or if I have committed some other faux pas ... then) please forgive me.

The suggestion is: to allow a field value called "paywall" for the value of a "url-status" field.

The "EDIT comment" for THIS edit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_family&diff=prev&oldid=1041653991

contains a "NOTE:" that is intended to illustrate the motivation for the suggestion.

The suggestion is also [sorta] contained (or maybe ...'explained') in a comment inside [the value of] the "url-status" field of the 'ref' tag that was modified during that edit.

-- Mike Schwartz (talk) 19:36, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@Mike Schwartz: Welcome to the Teahouse! There's already a parameter called |url-access= for this - see Template:Cite web#Access indicators for url-holding parameters. If you go to Template:Cite web and click on the "Talk" tab, you'll be redirected to Help talk:Citation Style 1, which is the proper place to offer a suggestion for citation templates like {{cite web}}. In this particular case, I'm not sure the |url-access= is appropriate, as I can access the URL as 1 of 3 free stories this month. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:08, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: Thank you for that kind (and speedy) response.

I don't think "|url-access=" is appropriate for the situation I was facing. There was no one holding a gun to prevent anyone from "ever" being able to access the primary ("non-" archived) web page, at the URL in the "url" field. [One might even be able to do so without paying any money! if they could do so without running afoul of the three-times-per-month limitation.] It's just that the reason for making the URL in the "archive-url" field primary, ... does exist (it's explained somewhere ... iirc in the "EDIT comment" mentioned above).

When I say << "making the URL in the "archive-url" field primary" >> I mean ... what happens when one uses "| url-status = dead" [which is appropriate only if the original web page has been moved or deleted ... right?]. Does the same thing happen when one uses "| url-status = unfit"? I think it does. But I was hoping for an option that would cause that same thing to happen, when one uses some other value for that "| url-status " field, ... a value that would not be making a false accusation, but would just be explaining what the good reason is, in a certain case, for << "making the URL in the "archive-url" field primary" >>.

In today's world, that good reason did get stated, (or, "recorded" or 'documented'); but ...only in the comment inside [the value of] a certain "url-status" field. Wouldn't it be better, to be able to say "| url-status = paywall" or "| url-status = limited-access"? (or ...something like that?)

Just my 0.02. YMMV. --Mike Schwartz (talk) 06:00, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

See also: Help_talk:Citation_Style_1#Suggestion_for_a_change_to_a_template

--Matthiaspaul (talk) 08:03, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Reaching out

...reaching out to someone who patiently will guide me through my first process of creating and posting a wki page; fast learner here. thank you! R Chefraphael (talk) 22:41, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Chefraphael, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia. The guidance I will give (which might not be what you want to hear) is that your question is a bit like "Hello, I've just started learning the building trade. Who will patiently guide me through my first process of building a house from scratch?" My answer is "Spend a while - at least a few months - learning the trade before you even try it". I can almost guarantee that you will have a frustrating and disappointing time if you try to create an article (not "post a page") before you are ready. But Your first article is there to give you some pointers when you decide to try. --ColinFine (talk) 23:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Chefraphael Further to Colin's sound advice (akin to "Who will teach me quickly to be a great chef?"), Wikipedia only accepts articles about topics that meet its Notability criteria. Please read that as well as WP:NBIO. We would need independent, reliably published sources that talk in detail and in depth about a subject for those notability criteria to be met. If you don't meet them, then there is no chance for an article here. We do not accept IMdB as such a source, as it is user-generated, with no editorial oversight. We also discourage people from creating articles about themselves, as they have a Conflict of interest which makes them the worst person to write about themselves encyclopaedia. See WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY for further advice, then read Your First Article and Referencing for Beginners. Hope this helps a bit. Happy reading! Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:07, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

One more for the reading list: An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. -- Hoary (talk) 23:12, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Super happy with the many reflections - all makes sense... shout out to @DavidnotMD: you have a fascinating profile... seemingly we share a rare love for nutritional (correct) science in common... I'm probably overstepping multiple wiki regulations for even responding in this matter... I'll take it as a bonus learning experience! yet, I'm okay trying to get a wiki page up; stumbling along. so, ill remove the hyper links and the IMDb link... but can I "mention" it? and, what is the correct "reference" if not linking it to another site? cheers group (am I allowed to respond to someones post? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chefraphael (talk • contribs) 01:53, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Chefraphael: Check out Help:Referencing for beginners to see how references are formatted on Wikipedia. Note that the reliable sources Wikipedia is looking for are secondary and independent of the subject. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 07:17, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

How can i improve my draft tone

How should I improve my draft, Deborah mannas and will Roberts Nihara.widefy (talk) 03:41, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

 Nihara.widefy (talk) 03:43, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

 Courtesy links Draft:Deborah Mannas and Draft:Will Roberts (actor). GoingBatty (talk) 04:00, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Nihara.widefy: Welcome to the Teahouse! Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography has the guidelines for how articles about people should be structured, including the importance of what information should be included in the first sentence and the first paragraph of an article. Proper capitalization, spelling, and punctuation is very important. Song titles should be in quotation marks, while albums/magazines/movies/TV series should be italicized. You should refer to people by their last name (e.g. "Mannas", not "Deborah") per WP:SURNAME. There should not be any external links in the drafts, except for references or a dedicated "External links" section. Section headers should not contain any references. Sentences such as "will roberts is a renaissane man to say the least" seem very promotional, and not encyclopedic. Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 04:13, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: thank you for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nihara.widefy (talk • contribs) 06:10, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

LOOKING FOR A WIKIPEDIA MENTOR WITH BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT JAPAN

FYI

 – converted first sentence to Header --Maresa63 ^Talk 05:42, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

For one on my university English classes, I had students translate some Japanese Wikipedia articles into English. I have 5-6 translated articles and would like a veteran Wikipedia editor to help me upload, format, and edit the English articles. I know HTML and basic coding, but am not yet used to the Wikipedia format. One sample article I worked on is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TNewfields/sandbox

Thanks in advance for any guidance. TNewfields (talk) 05:07, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@TNewfields: I took a look at the content in your sandbox. Wikipedia is not a travel guide, and yours currently reads like one. All articles must also be sourced to reliable sources (see Help:Referencing for beginners, which yours lacks. I also don't think Hakone's hot springs deserve a separate article from Hakone (per WP:FORK). If you have any question about editing Wikipedia, you may always ask here. However, most editors will not write articles for you. Instead, you might want to check out the resources at Wikipedia:Education program. I also suggest you to complete The Wikipedia Adventure, which will give you a crash course on how to edit Wikipedia to be more familiar with how things work here and teach your class better. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 06:48, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

TNewfields, you don't have the (considerable) skills necessary to create articles on en:Wikipedia, but you're expecting your students to create such articles? Or, you're asking your pupils to supply the raw text for such articles, and expecting volunteers here, with both the necessary Wikipedia skills and a knowledge of Japanese, to do the difficult stuff? Either way, I doubt it's going to work. Maproom (talk) 06:57, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Er, Maproom, TNewfields says that these are translations. The example is, as it says, from ja:箱根温泉. So for the students, it appears to be a translation task. TNewfields is asking people here "to help me upload, format, and edit the English articles". Background knowledge of Japan isn't really necessary; but it is desirable, because when ameliorating some infelicitous prose, background knowledge will help to get the meaning right. So what do you have to do, TNewfields? First, strip the contents list and section numbering (Wikipedia will automate such numbering). Add the references. As is unfortunately normal in ja:Wikipedia, there's little referencing in the source article: you (singular/plural) will have to provide more. Italicize where appropriate by putting a pair of (non-directional) single quotation marks ('') in front of, and a second pair after, what you want italicized. Provide internal links by putting "[[" in front of, and "]]" after, what you want linked. 難しくないですよ。大学教員でもできます。 Then move the result to the draft area. Oh, and your very first edit of a translation should have an edit summary acknowledging that it's a translation and specifying the source; see this. -- Hoary (talk) 07:48, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Without references, none of these will be accepted, regardless of how good you or your students get at formatting. English refs preferred, but Japanese accepted. All factual statements must be supported by references - verification is essential. David notMD (talk) 08:08, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

I exaggerated somewhat. The original has 20 references, to 14 sources. But these shouldn't just be added; they should be checked, their content confirmed, and then added. Help:Referencing for beginners will explain. -- Hoary (talk) 08:16, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

how save edits in source code mode?

how do i save edits? there is only publish, preview and changes. for example, if i am unsure about changes so that i can find and learn from documentation? it will save a lot of data for me. 28au21 (talk) 05:27, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@28au21: Welcome to the Teahouse. You have to press the Publish changes button to save them. It used to be "Save changes" but people didn't know that any changes made were publicised published. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:38, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @28au21: I'm assuming you mean that you're working on improving an article and you want to save unfinished work. I suggest you to go to your sandbox at User:28au21/sandbox, copy and paste your work in progress source code, and click "Publish changes". That sandbox is your own personal space, and you may save there as many times as you'd like. Alternatively, you may want to copy and paste that code into an external software like Microsoft Word and save it there. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 06:40, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: @Ganbaruby: i was not clear. i want to save edits locally and publish later (after few minutes). saving temporarily will save unintended changes or i can look for docs (if i have doubt or thoughts after making a change). -28au21 (talk) 06:45, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@28au21: There is no way to "save locally" on a Wikipedia page. You should use your sandbox if you're still working on something that you do not want to go public yet, because saving there has no effect on actual Wikipedia articles. When you feel like you're done, use the "show preview" function to check if the article looks as intended, and then copy that into the live Wikipedia article. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 06:54, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@28au21: Another option is to save the wikitext to a text file on your computer. I do this often when I need to step away from the computer but have an edit that's only half done. Be sure to give the file a descriptive name and make sure that the article hasn't been edited since your save, otherwise you'll have to make sure to reconcile your version with any changes made. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) ^{please always ping!} 15:16, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

How we can contest unrightful post rejection?

Hi,

We have worked years to gather all the information we have, our clan was closed for over 400 years since it served the Shogunate, now in past years we have opened to public, with information sharing, knowledge management and much more on the warfare arts.

We have made properly argumented post that was rejected by someone who is not even a Japanese person, nor knows anything about true Ninja/Samurai development when he rejected out of no foundation our post here.

Viorel Cosmin Miron 05:44, 1 September 2021 (UTC) Viorel Cosmin Miron 05:44, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, 柴田バネッサ. You keep talking about "we" and "our". Shared accounts are not permitted on Wikipedia, so you should talk about "me" and "my". Your references are formatted improperly. Take a look at Referencing for Beginners. That's a start. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:00, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Also, vast swathes of your draft are unreferenced, in violation of the core content policies Verifiability and No original research. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:07, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Pinging SIRavecavec, the one that actually wrote the question. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 07:12, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

You are so wrong, I know the people who have individual accounts, again if you had nothing constructive to add, please refrain next time! Viorel Cosmin Miron 18:45, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@SIRavecavec: No, Cullen328 was correct. You come across as one account shared by multiple people, and you did not format your references properly. Nothing was "so wrong" about that. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:33, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy: Draft:The Order of Musashi Shinobi Samurai. Personally, I agree that the Rejection was not appropriate. A Decline with guidance would have been better. That said, I recommend removing both galleries and a lot of unreferenced content about what individuals were doing. The article Samurai has links to articles about clans - these may serve as models for your efforts. David notMD (talk) 08:21, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

I also agree that outright rejection was inappropriate. I have replaced it with a new submission template. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:25, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

I would just add that this is the English-language Wikipedia, and may not warrant the same level of detail that a Japanese-language article on the same topic would; particularly since verifiability (for English-speakers) is much easier using English-language sources available on the web or in English-language libraries, and the verifiability of your article hinges entirely, or almost entirely, on Japanese-language sources not readily available to English-speakers elsewhere. This is in no way a critique of the value of the article or its topic. Just pointing out that there's a lot of detail there, and you may find it easier to get an article approved which begins more simply. Also, you need to finish translating or transliterating your References and External Links sections. EVhotrodder (talk) 07:48, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Best Way to Revive a Deleted Article?

An article for a movie was deleted a month ago due to lacking notability. A month later, the movie has now received coverage from Teen Vogue, Tatler, and Digital Spy, so I'm pretty sure it now meets the minimum level of notability requirements. I was wondering what is the best way to "undelete" the article. Should I simply undo the last edit on the article (the deletion) or should I start a completely new draft of the article and submit it that way?

Thanks for the help. Koikefan (talk) 06:42, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Koikefan, if you make a request on the talk page of the admin who did the deletion, they'll probably restore it for you as a draft. However, as you're confident there are now good sources for you to cite, you should find some such sources, and write a new draft based on what they say. That will be easier than trying to get the deleted version into an acceptable state (I speak from experience – see sunk cost). Maproom (talk) 07:11, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Well, it depends on the state of the draft. Koikefan, if you have trouble finding the name of the admin, let us know the name of the film and we'll help. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 08:12, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

SUGGESTIONS TO WRITE ABOUT AN ORGANISATION, WITHOUT BEING BLAMED FOR PROMOTION

How do i write about an organisation without being blamed for promoting the organisation. Please suggest me some points i should keep in mind. Liveit1 (talk) 07:02, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Liveit1. Start by reading Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and then go on to read and study Your first article. For understanding about how to write without promotionalism, please read about the Neutral point of view. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:15, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Liveit1, please also avoid posting the content at User:Liveit1 (that's your userpage) and instead create it as a draft article. If you have some link with the organisation concerned, please review Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:21, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Liveit1: Please dont shout, it makes you sound like your mad at us. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) (Stupidity by me) 14:34, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Liveit1, I would suggest not writing about it if you have any association to the organization via self, family, friends, rivals, etc.. If the organization is notable enough, it should have news articles describing the group in detail that are not press releases, routine news announcements (funding rounds, leadership changes), or promotional in nature. I would stay away from the official website except for just key facts like leadership structure. I would also check if the group is notable beyond the local area per WP:MILL. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:28, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Embedding of Youtube and Military details in infobox

Hi, I wanted to know that has there been any discussion in past on inclusion of Youtube or Military details in the infobox of a person when it is/was not their primary work of area. I myself feel that it should not be included and want to remove from some pages but I don't have anything to support my edits. -ink&fables «talk» 08:26, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@-ink&fables We should include at most one Wikipedia:External links in the Infobox to help identify the organization, so without further context I'd generally agree that adding youtube links is likely wrong. What do you mean by military details? Can you list which articles you have in mind? ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 14:40, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Shushugah: For example, Lee Seung-gi, I mean every man in South Korea is mandate by law to serve in army. Does we need to add it in infobox? I even had an edit war with an user few weeks ago over its removal from infobox. -ink&fables «talk» 14:51, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Old editor moved my comment without permission.

In Talk:Caretaker Government of Myanmar (2021), Mr/Ms Tartan357 moved my comment without my permission. I added a comment again, but it was reverted. Is this the culture of this community? Unrestricted-Warrior (talk) 08:58, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Unrestricted-Warrior, why is this a problem? The whole discussion has been moved to another page (see the move template at the top of the thread). ― Tartan357 ^Talk 09:10, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

When there is an active Merge proposal, the discussion takes place at only one of the articles. In this case Talk:Management Committee of the State Administration Council. Make your position there. David notMD (talk) 09:21, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Then, I hope to move all the discussion, including you and the other two. - Unrestricted-Warrior (talk) 09:31, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

First, I found out that "old editor" is a bad word. I repeal this word. In addition, I have a question. Please let me know why the discussions of other editors are left in Talk:Caretaker Government of Myanmar (2021). - Unrestricted-Warrior (talk) 07:57, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Unrestricted-Warrior it appears the others had made their comments before the discussion was moved (and a note was left directing interested editors to comment in the other location). Those comments are already copied to the other location as well. Yes the originals could have been removed, but they weren't which at worst may be confusing, but nothing more. Why would you persist in adding your comment there despite the note? The editor has moved your comment to the other location and you can continue the conversation there. I do not see any problem here. Are you complaining or are you confused and seeking clarification? What exactly do you wish to figure out?

@Tartan357, for the future, you cited MERGEPROP in your edit summary but your move was contrary to the advice given there. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 09:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

I felt unfair, but it seems to be my misunderstanding. My question has been resolved. Thank you everyone. - Unrestricted-Warrior (talk) 09:22, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Edit not appearing

I edited an article to add content along with a different point of view. The edit has two sources, but a month later it does not appear. Why is the edit being blocked? RonWillow (talk) 09:25, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Assuming you mean your edits to Betsy Ross flag. Those were reverted (click on View history, top menu), and the reverting editor pointed at an ongoing discussion on the talk page of the article as a place to make a case. Before you start there, also review extended discussions on same topic at the Archive of older Talk content. David notMD (talk) 09:30, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

edit being reverted due to no reason

hi, i have been making a few edits on the pages of some elite universities highlighting the massive admission scandals that took place, which allowed students to bribe their way in. i had done everything right, but some clearly biased people are removing my edits saying that the source wasn't reliable (it clearly was). what can i do about this?  Virtue1234 (talk) 09:42, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Virtue1234 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. (as an example) The edit was removed partially because you placed it in the lead of the article about Yale, over-emphasizing what historically speaking is a minor event in the history of the university, placing undue emphasis on it. The source was also only provided as a weblink and not a properly formatted citation(see WP:REFB for information on writing citations). Please discuss your concens on the article talk page, to arrive at a consensus. The article won't be whitewashed, but it also won't be made biased the other way against the university. 331dot (talk) 09:50, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Virtue1234 Once your posts are replied to, they shouldn't be removed. 331dot (talk) 09:53, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

sorry my bad, i am new to this stuff. won't happen again Virtue1234 (talk)

Virtue1234, the Teahouse is here for that expressed reason, to help and assist both new and experienced editors with any issues or questions concerning Wikipedia and editing. You learn by being bold and adapting when you make a mistake. It's a win-win for the encyclopedia. Happy editing! --ARoseWolf 13:43, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Delete My account

I want to delete my wikipedia account so please to delete it because of too many problems. Randubaba (talk) 12:32, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Randubaba. If you’re having problems editing, then maybe a Teahouse can help you sort them out if you can explain what the issues are. Wikipedia accounts, however, cannot be deleted for the reasons given here. The best that you can do is simply stop using the account if you no longer want to edit. — Marchjuly (talk) 12:38, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Randubaba: There is a way. See Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:37, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Randubaba, hello and welcome to the Teahouse as stated by my colleague @Marchjuly, is there a particular incident you may want to reference? That is what particular “trouble” are you encountering? If you take little time to explain things to us we would assist you in editing better or see it that you do not encounter any more “troubles” moving forward. Celestina007 (talk) 23:25, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Randubaba: Just to clarify that "Courtesy vanishing" is not really the deletion of an account per se in that all information associated will be "deleted" forever; the account information and edit history is just hidden from public view and can only be seen by administrators or others capable of seeing such things. It's referred to as a "courtesy" because its use is discretionary (i.e. there needs to be a pretty good reason for it) and because it can be taken back (i.e. undone) at a later date if necessary. Please make sure that you fully understand this as well as WP:Courtesy vanishing#What vanishing is not before making such a request because you're going to be asked specifically why you need such action to be taken. Anachronist is an administrator and if you're having problems that you feel uncomfortable discussing here at the Teahouse, then maybe try contacting Anachronist or another administrator via WP:EMAIL where you can discuss them in private. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:43, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

While I can give advice, I cannot "vanish" an account. I believe one needs to be a bureaucrat to do that. Otherwise Marchjuly's explanation above is spot-on. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:29, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Searching the Teahouse questions archive

Hi. Is it possible to search the Teahouse questions archive for questions I've had answered in the past ie search by my user name? Thanks. Buckland1072 (talk) 13:09, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Buckland1072: I believe this search should cover all of them. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:17, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Esav Marrakech

Hello guys lately I have created a page for a non profit private school in Marrakech and it been 2 week now when i submited to review but i got no reply from the team so i hope you guys can review it as soon as possible. talk 13:16, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Drafts are not reviewed in any order or on any deadline, sorry. DS (talk) 13:32, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Be patient. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) (Stupidity by me) 14:24, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Teahouse volunteers are not also reviewers. Well, a few are, but that is not why they are here. David notMD (talk) 14:57, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Submitted 8/24. Declined 8/25. Revised and resubmitted 8/25. I count that as one week. David notMD (talk) 15:03, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:There is no deadline. We are all volunteers here, and we all must decide on the best way to spend our time here. It will be reviewed when someone gets around to it. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:42, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

FYI

 – Combined sections about same topic by the same person. GoingBatty (talk) 17:24, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Hey guys i recently created a article about private school and when i submited to review first time get rejected and then i added a improvement to it so i hope can meet the critiria of articles in main space i want you guys to tell me your feedback on it is it become better now or it need more adjustement. Thanks you talk 14:39, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

HellmuSa Courtesy: Draft:Esav Marrakech. And we are not all guys. David notMD (talk) 15:39, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@David notMDDoes it look good?? talk 15:44, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Needs more content and refs about the school. Documenting that it exists and how it came to exist are not enough. David notMD (talk) 15:54, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@HellmuSa: Does the school use "Esav" or "ESAV"? The draft should be internally consistent. Is the "View of ESAV school entry" a photograph or an artistic creation? Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:58, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty yes it is just an artistic creation for it but the real name is Esav. talk 17:04, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@HellmuSa: Thank you. I moved the image back out of the infobox, since a photograph of the school could be used in the infobox. You can change each instance of "ESAV" to "Esav". Also, I think the infobox language field should be "French" instead of "francophone". Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:14, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty Thanks that really help. talk 17:18, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

I cannot figure out why my page is continually rejected for submission

I am the creator of a Wiki page for the Institute of Child nutrition Draft:Institute of Child Nutrition. I have been working on it for over a year and have been rejected various times, despite adhering and complying to Wiki rules and regulations. Any help would be fantastic. Thank you. Wshammon (talk) 15:26, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

SL93 put this as their reason: "This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies." Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) (Stupidity by me) 15:32, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Wshammon Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia is not a place for organizations to tell the world about themselves and what they do; that's considered promotional here, you don't have to be actively soliciting. A Wikipedia article about an organization should summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia defintion of a notable organization. Wikipedia is not interested in what an organization says about itself, or in merely telling what it does, such as through press releases, announcments of routine activities, brief mentions, or other primary sources. The sources you have offered simply tell what your organization does.

To be successful in writing about your organization, you need to set aside everything you know about it, all materials put out by the organization, and all inappropriate sources, and only write based on the content of independent reliable sources that have chosen on their own to write in depth about your organization. (I fixed your link, the whole URL is not necessary) 331dot (talk) 15:33, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Wshammon: Also note that your draft was declined, not rejected. They mean very different things here on Wikipedia. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) (Stupidity by me) 15:33, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

From what I can see, the topic probably warrants an article, and the article is written at least well enough to be a good start to an article. I'll see what others say, but because of conflict of interest, I might suggest you submit this to Requested Articles. If you do, ping me I will gladly take a look and help create it, if warranted. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 15:40, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for responding so quickly. This is very helpful, and thank you for clarifying that being "denied" is not being "rejected." I will gladly submit this to "Requested Articles" as (talk) stated. I would love some help on this! How do I ping you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wshammon (talk • contribs)

On second thought, since the article draft has already been created, I reached out to the reviewing editor to offer my help with this article, and will proceed to help pending that discussion. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 17:32, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Wshammon Looked at it (and poked it a bit). Needs a section about what the Institute does, published in sources other than those associated with U Miss. The History section confirms it exists, but not what it does. David notMD (talk) 18:40, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

The opening section ("the lead") should summarise the body of the article, saying briefly what the organisation is and does, and when it was founded. The boring stuff about section 21 of the ... School Lunch Act should be moved to the body of the article, if it's worth keeping at all. Maproom (talk) 18:53, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Removal of maintenance template from published article

The article concerned is a biographical article: Josef Josten. The maintenance template recommends improvement with additional citations. I have added several citations and now believe that all the material facts in the article are covered by the sources quoted. Note that where multiple items are covered by one source, I have normally inserted the citation just once within or at the end of the paragraph, so as not to clutter up the text. Is it now reasonable for me to removbe the maintenance template? Thank you in advance for your advice. Honza Giles (talk) 15:55, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

You could ask on the articles Talk Page first, to ensure other interested editors have a chance to review the sources, but it looks like you've (probably) added enough citations to warrant removal of the tag. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 16:16, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Honza Giles - often, the best person to ask about removal of a template, is the editor who added it - in this case User:Marchjuly. He can then agree, or explain what he thinks is still outstanding - this avoids edit-warring over a template - Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 16:46, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

​​​@Honza Giles: Thank you for trying to improve the article. There are certainly more citations being cited now in the article then there were when I added the {{More citations needed}} template, which is generally a good thing. Many of the citations cited, however, are still ones that aren't available online which can make assessing them quite hard. Citations, for sure, don't need to be available online as long as they're to reliable sources, published and accessible, and used in proper context. Assuming in good faith that you read the sources being cited in the article and assessed them, then it's probably fine to remove the template from the top of the page as explained here. If it's re-added by another editor, though, then you probably should discuss things on the article talk page and try and address that person's concerns. Please note that you may be asked to further clarify a source to help in its verification.

There is, however, another issue with the article that needs addressing and that has to do with the file you uploaded for use in the main infobox. You're claiming that this is your "own work" and also that it's Josten's passport photo. Did you actually take this photo yourself? If you didn't, then it's most likely not your "own work" as I tried to explain to you before at c:User talk:Honza Giles with respect to some other images that you uploaded previously to Commens. Why do you think this photo has been released under a "cc-by-sa-4.0"? Did you find the photo somewhere where it clearly and explicitly states it has been released under such a license? This same photo can be seen used here, but there's nothing which clarifies it's provenance; so, there's nothing to support your claim of licensing or "own work". Photos have to come from somewhere and they may still be protected by copyright even if they're "freely available" and can be downloaded from somewhere online. Unless you able to formally verify that this photo is actually you're own work or that it has been released as you licensed it as explained here or here, Commons won't be able to keep the file. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:06, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

What language should I be using?

Initially, I had edited and corrected Wikipedia articles using British English. Should I be using British or American English? GentianGashi (talk) 16:07, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

In general, either one is fine, as long as it's consistent throughout the article. Articles with strong national ties are a different story. Happy editing! Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 16:12, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Fixed Pyrrho the Skeptic's link to Wikipedia's Manual of Style. GoingBatty (talk) 16:15, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

To expand on the above, if an article uses British, do not switch to American, and vice versa. Even if you are careful to consistently change it throughout the article, that is still frowned upon. The same is true for other things. For example, Wikipedia is neutral as to use of the Oxford comma. If an article consistenty uses it (or consistently doesn't use it), don't change it. --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 18:54, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@GentianGashi: The policy here is WP:ENGVAR. Articles with ties to a specific variety of English should be written in that Variety, e.g. Articles on British politicians should be written in British English, articles on Indian villages should be written in Indian English, and articles on American laws should be written in American English. For articles that do not have ties to any specific country the editor that starts the article gets to choose which version of English to use, which all subsequent editors should follow. (The same general principle applies to other formatting choices, like what style of citations to use). 192.76.8.74 (talk) 19:16, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Also, sometimes an article evolves in how things are spelled. For example, the Cider article started out as American English, and then had a mixture of American and British spelling for years, and then all the American spelling was removed. Talk:Cider/Archive 1#WP:ENGVAR tells the story. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:50, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Anachronist, we read there of the introduction of a misspelled American spelling of "pasteurized" as "pasturized". "Pasteurized" is so very distinctively American that ... it's used in the Oxford English Dictionary. One can stick {{Use British English Oxford spelling|date=September 2021}} atop articles such as this and thereby avoid complaints from any but the most fanatical spelling fetishists. That there's an entire article devoted to Oxford spelling is (for me) somewhat yawn-inducing, but its content is quite sensible. -- Hoary (talk) 23:47, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Hoary: Heh. I wasn't aware of "Oxford spelling". Thanks for that. Reading that article gave me a sense of a suggestion of the historical rivalry between England and France: "good heavens, we're British, we shouldn't be using French spelling (of all things) to spell English words!" I've also heard it said "we French don't hate the British — just their cooking." ~Anachronist (talk) 00:41, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Anachronist, if avoidance of "pasteurised" is associated with francophobia, I'm inclined to use "pasteurised". But all this is too silly. Now I remember an article where I Briticized (?) the existing style. I fessed up and all was well, because (like most people) Lesser Cartographies has their head screwed on right. -- Hoary (talk) 00:59, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Queries regarding block account

  Why My Hindi Wikipedia page is Blocked? Why my IP Address is blocked? How can I unlock my Hindi Wikipedia page? I'm facing a problem creating a new Wikipedia Account. Please tell Why? &watiMi&hra (talk) 16:14, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@&watiMi&hra: Welcome to the Teahouse! This is a place to ask questions about the English Wikipedia. For a question about the Hindi Wikipedia, please ask there. Please note that your Draft:NewsGram Hindi on the English Wikipedia will not be approved unless it is translated into English. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:19, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Each Wikipedia is a seperate project, and has its own rules on blocking and unblocking. You will need to find the Hindi Wikipedia for a page on blocks. The English page is here Wikipedia:IP_block_exemption, check the sidebar to see if there is a corresponding page for Hindi. RudolfRed (talk) 16:21, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

If your account is blocked on the Hindi Wikipedia, you will need to address that there using whatever process they have to do so. 331dot (talk) 16:22, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@331dot: They were blocked on the Hindi Wikipedia for link spamming, and it looks like they need an enwiki block because all their contributions here have been doing the same thing - spamming random links to the same website dressed up as citations into various articles. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 16:38, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

tsk, tsk, tsk --ARoseWolf 18:35, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Also as I noted on Ohnoitsjamie's talk page this account is obviously the same person as RaiKashish, who has spent the last year spamming links to newsgram.com into various articles. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 19:07, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

About my sandbox after moving the article

I created an article in my sandbox. After that, I was able to move the article successfully, but my sandbox was used for redirection. I want to create another article in my sandbox. Can I delete what is written in my sandbox without permission? Could someone please tell me what I should do? Murasakihitsuji (talk) 17:28, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

You can either edit the redirect, and replace it with the article, or create a new article at User:Murasakihitsuji/sandbox2. ― Qwerfjkltalk 17:40, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Murasakihitsuji: You can add {{db-U1}} to any page in your own user space and an administrator will delete it for you. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 19:10, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@192.76.8.74, I don't think Murasakihitsuji wants to delete the page, just the text. ― Qwerfjkltalk 19:35, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Qwerfjkl: I thought they were asking how to delete the redirect that was left over from the page move. Both will accomplish the same thingc just depends if you want to have the redirect's page history in your new draft. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 19:39, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

192.76.8.74, nice to meet you and thank you for your advice. Qwerfjkl, nice to meet you and thank you for your advice. Yes, I am asking how to delete the redirect that was left over from the page move. To create a new article, I want to leave my sandbox empty. I asked for help here because I was worried that by turning off that redirect, it might have a negative impact on the articles I had successfully moved. Murasakihitsuji (talk) 10:38, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Murasakihitsuji: please see WP:EDRED on how to modify a redirect. Redirects are independent of whatever page they redirect to, even if they were created by a page move. Victor Schmidt (talk) 11:02, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Victor Schmidt, nice to meet you. Thank you for your advice. I'll try it. Murasakihitsuji (talk) 15:10, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Where can I find more articles regarding film and television to edit?

I want to edit film and television articles where can I find them? २ तकर पेप्सी (talk) 19:54, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@२ तकर पेप्सी, try these links: Category:Film and Category:Television shows. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:11, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@२ तकर पेप्सी: You could start by reading the articles for your favorite films and TV series and making updates as needed. You can also visit the WikiProject Cleanup Listings for "Films" and "Television stations" (either "alphabetic", "by cat", or "CSV") and find articles with issues that need to be fixed. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:15, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

I request senior experienced to check this article

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Trane# Thomas Trane has no reference nothing. I did some minor edits which I think I need to do but I think this article is not matching Wikipedia guidelines. Requesting any experienced Wikipedian to check it out Thankyou. २ तकर पेप्सी (talk) 20:29, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Tagged for CSD A7. 2405:201:4013:80AA:1081:181A:60BA:31C1 (talk) 20:36, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@२ तकर पेप्सी I tagged it with Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion A7 (non notable biography), it's an article that existed since 2007 with little improvement since. Worth also mentioning, that per Wikipedia:INHERITED, just because the photographer worked with a famous music band, it does not confer notability to them.

Thank you for reporting it! When you're a new editor, it's better to focused on content improvements and seeking help when deleting stuff which is exactly what you did. Well done from my end! Happy editing! ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 20:40, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to_the_Show_(album)#Personnel Welcome to the Show (album) doesn't have any reference. Does Wikipedia accepts it? २ तकर पेप्सी (talk) 20:58, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@२ तकर पेप्सी: I copied a reference from Evil Masquerade to Welcome to the Show (album) and added an External link to AllMusic. GoingBatty (talk) 21:22, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrik_Brockmann# Henrik Brockmann has only one reference I'm marking Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion say me If I'm wrong.२ तकर पेप्सी (talk) 21:11, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@२ तकर पेप्सी You should not be marking pages for deletion at this point. A lack of references is in itself not a criteria for deletion. An article is Wikipedia:Notable or not based on what existing references there are out there, and if you didn't do the search, then you are potentially deleting an article about a noteworthy topic (albeit poorly sourced on Wikipedia). Also, do not link to the entire url but use Wikipedia:Wikilinks. Please self revert your deletion nomination ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 21:31, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Sorry and thakyou. I will keep in mind to your words. २ तकर पेप्सी (talk) 21:38, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Technical help for an editor

There's a user with a {{help me}} request that's been languishing, likely due to the technical knowledge required to answer it. Please check out User_talk:TerraFrost#Help_me! and help out if you can. I will likely remove this notice when it's been handled. Primefac (talk) 20:35, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

If TerraFrost isn't getting an answer due to the knowledge required, perhaps they could try asking the more technically minded folk at the village pump (technical). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:06, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Deleted page in 2014 now highly relevant

Hello. A page for actress and presenter Georgia-May Davis was deleted back in 2014 by a wiki user who is no longer using the platform. Who do I contact to revive that original page to allow me to update it with the actresses latest relevant work? Grapepinky (talk) 20:38, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Grapepinky According to [1], that article had no sources, so it may be just as easy to start from the beginning. WP:YFA has guidance, and make sure you have the sources demanded at WP:BASIC, otherwise an article will not be accepted. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:55, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Grapepinky Hey, I saw from the now deleted Georgia-May Davis that User:Xoloz deleted it, but they are retired/inactive since 2014. You have two options, you could recreate the article from scratch (nothing preventing you from doing that) and or request a Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion, where an admin will email you the original content. Hope that helps and happy editing! ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 20:57, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you both. I didn't know a new article was allowed to be made. Grapepinky (talk) 13:24, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

How do I enter a new line?

So sometimes I see a little enter symbol noting a new line when I edit. I've deleted them with no ill effect, but now I need one. How do I get one so my new line stays a new line? Thanks! The Council of Seraphim | speak before the Council 21:29, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@The Council of Seraphim Welcome to the Tea House! Hitting "enter/return" keys usually does the trick. For example below is a new line.

In some cases where you want to force a newline you can also use {{pb}} e.g. inside an {{Infobox}}. Happy editing! Shushugah (he/him • talk) 21:47, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Shushugah, you got your new line by hitting the enter key and typing a colon. Starting a new line with a colon is seldom, if ever, appropriate in an article. The Council of Seraphim, one can get a new paragraph with two consecutive taps on the enter key, but a simple new line with <br />. -- Hoary (talk) 23:02, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks to you both! The Council of Seraphim | speak before the Council 23:31, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

If you’re using Visual Editor, it might be Shift+Enter. (I don't have a keyboard to test with and confirm right now.) Don't remove them if they are helping the source code to be more readable. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 12:11, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

If you’re using Visual Editor, it might be Shift+Enter. (I don't have a keyboard to test with and confirm right now.) Don't remove them if they are helping the source code to be more readable. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 12:13, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Are music streaming services reliable?

I'm asking because I'm seeing pages such as Virtual Riot citing Apple Music. Sorry if I seem dumb by asking this, I don't use Apple Music and so I don't know if I should be using its content on Wikipedia, but I know sites that host user generated content like SoundCloud are not reliable. Thanks! EDM fan 2 (talk) 23:18, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

I will try and answer the question I think you are asking. Can we use Apple Music as a source? The answer is yes but only for a very limited amount of information mostly to do with potential rankings on that service. Anything else would be self published and not helpful. Can it be used to support notability? I would say, not currently. I don't believe we currently accept these services' rankings on par with a national billboard type of rank system. (Anyone is free to correct me on this one). I hope that helps. In the case of Virtual Riot I would say the references to Apple Music and Spotify is being used as covert spam. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 23:31, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I was mostly asking about usage of Apple Music. If the usage of Apple Music/Spotify as references are considered spam, should they get replaced with a reliable source? EDM fan 2 (talk) 00:31, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@EDM fan 2 Some exceptions to WP:SELFPUBLISH include expert sources, but usually podcast links here are not that. ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 11:07, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@EDM fan 2: Welcome to the Teahouse! You may also be interested in the conversation at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 289#Formally make Spotify a "generally unreliable" source?. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:08, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Can you add shields?

Hi there, we need more more more shields in List of road routes in Victoria. To add it, click on red link, go to upload file and click Upload File. Can you do it for us? Mlik point (talk) 00:49, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Mlik point: You already asked this in the #More shields needed in List of road routes in Victoria section above. In the future, please don't start a new section for the same topic. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:12, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Also, Teahouse hosts are generalists, answering questions, not a reserve force of article editors. It appears you did one today. Don't stop. David notMD (talk) 02:48, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Disputed Leaders

How do I show that two people claim to be a leader of a region in an infobox? In the Tigray Region, both Debretsion Gebremichael and Abraham Belay claim to be the true leader of the Tigray region with Debretsion Gebremichael having de facto control and Abraham Belay having de jure control. Wowzers122 (talk) 02:03, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Wowzers122: That almost sounds like the United States in which the former president refused to concede.

You could list both in the infobox, like this:

president=Abraham Belay (de jure)<br>Debretsion Gebremichael (de facto)

...which would appear as two separate lines in the infobox. On the other hand, if there is no question about who won the election, it may be simpler just to list the actual winner. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:11, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Anachronist: The election wasn't recognized by the central government. Wowzers122 (talk) 02:16, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Wowzers122: Well, then it might be best to list them both as suggested above. If the international community consensus recognizes one of them, though, that may be an argument to list only one. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:20, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Did you like Wikipedia?

How was Wikipedia going?

Good or Tired? Mlik point (talk) 02:44, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Mlik point, are you looking for some help, or just shooting the breeze? -- Hoary (talk) 02:50, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

I'm happy doing editor. Mlik point (talk) 02:52, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Mlik point Just stick to the former, please. See WP:NOTSOCIAL. The Nick Moyes (talk) 04:14, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Mlik point: If you're looking to chat with other editors, you might be interested in Wikipedia:IRC or Wikipedia:Discord. GoingBatty (talk) 04:10, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Rudolf Weigl: """...was a fool born in...

 2601:206:8100:8A0:BD27:5D05:FD36:EEF1 (talk) 04:44, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Already dealt with. I'm thinking that article needs more eyes on it. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 04:52, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Seems that the Google Doodle is bringing lots of extra eyes. GoingBatty (talk) 05:17, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Unfortunately, a significant number of these pairs of eyes appear to be attached to seriously limited brains. Sane, non-silly attention needed. -- Hoary (talk) 05:25, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Lectonar has very wisely s-protected the article, thereby saving a lot of trouble for sensible editors. (With hindsight, I should have done this hours earlier.) -- Hoary (talk) 12:00, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Subpage

Hi. I want to remove the subpage heading. There is a heading like User:Example/subpage in a subpage below 'From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'. In my User:Tajwar.thesuperman/sandbox, there is a heading, < User:Tajwar.thesuperman, I want to remove this. How can I do this? Waiting for reply! Thanks. ➤ Tajwar – thesupermaN!^{【Click to Discuss】} 05:56, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

You can't. This appears to be a sandbox for your user page; if you move it there, or copy and paste it there, then the text you hope to remove won't appear there. And so (if I understand you right), you have nothing to worry about. -- Hoary (talk) 06:26, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Is WP:ANI the correct venue?

Not new here, I have posted on WP:ANI regarding a concern I have on another editor pertaining to overciting on multiple occasion despite informing user not to do so. However, no one actually follow up over there yet, did I posted it in the wrong venue, as I see other newer threads got some sort of follow up. If I did posted it in wrong venue, where should I move the discussion thread to? — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 06:42, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Paper9oll: I think it was the right place to report it. One thing that can make it easier for admins and other editors to react more quickly to an ANI report is to mention the kind of admin action you are looking for – a temporary or partial block, a strict warning, or something else. Mentioning the extent of the problem, with 40 sources for the same fact added in the most recent overciting edit, would also grab people's attention more. I mean, your report has all the necessary info and it is a good thing to keep such reports brief, but "continuously overciting" is a little vague, and adding a couple of words explaining each diff makes it easier to understand what it is all about. It's not immediately obvious that Special:Diff/1027361379 added three sources to a simple fact which already had three sources, for instance. --bonadea contributions talk 08:46, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Bonadea Hi, saw your reply there. Thanks you for the tips, I will try to improve my future report in ANI if situation arises that require admin attention. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 08:49, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Protect a page as quick as possible

Sidharth Shukla please quicky protect the page as he died recently and page getting multiple edits from inexperienced users. २ तकर पेप्सी (talk) 06:48, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

२ तकर पेप्सी Page protection requests may be posted to WP:RFPP; active vandalism may be reported to WP:AIV. 331dot (talk) 07:00, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Why my artical is draft?

Next discussion : #How to give draft artical to promotion "REVIEW"

 Syed89 (talk) 08:04, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Syed89, if you are asking about Draft:Mushkil kusha, it's a draft because (i) it consists of a single, short sentence, and (ii) you haven't submitted it for promotion to article status. (Are you asking about something else?) -- Hoary (talk) 08:59, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Can you upload files?

Next discussion : #What is AUshield?

Did you know how to upload files? Mlik point (talk) 08:37, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Mlik point, are you asking how to upload files to either Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons? If so, which, and what kind of file? -- Hoary (talk) 08:56, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia. Needs more {{AUshield}} shields on List of road routes in Victoria and List of road routes in Victoria (numeric). Mlik point (talk) 09:08, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Mlik point, here's a shield: . It calls File:Australian national route ALT1.svg. This is indeed hosted at Wikipedia. Uploading similar files is easy. Creating them isn't. Have you already created them? -- Hoary (talk) 09:34, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

No, but you need more shields, including: A30, A77, A96, B40, B44, B92, B401, B840, B861, B870, B989, C259, C308, C655, C989 and C996. Can you do it on Upload Screen? Mlik point (talk) 10:02, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

You have to create the SVG files, Mlik point. -- Hoary (talk) 11:24, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

It's like File:AUS Alphanumeric Route B870.svg. If you click on red link, you'll be straight to Upload Screen. Mlik point (talk) 11:59, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Mlik point No one has actually uploaded the file yet hence it is displayed as red link. You can do so by uploading the file, however before that, make sure to read WP:IUP. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 12:07, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Mlik point: (edit conflict) Because Wikipedia wants to have free content, not everything can be uploaded here. I suggest you start with Wikipedia:Image use policy (said page is for images, but the rules there apply for all other sorts of files as well). I reccommend that new users use the File Upload Wizard. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:57, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

This is, I believe, the third time that Mlik point has asked for people to do this. As I replied the first time, you can do this yourself - and, judginrg from the image description at File:AUS Alphanumeric Route A39.svg, the svg's are already there, and there is no copyright issue in Wikipedia as they are too simple to be protected by copyrightin the US (though apparently this is not clear in Australia, so Commons won't accept them). Mlik point, either do this yourself, or find a way of actually enrolling other editors who want to get involved. Simply asking random people to do something over and over again probably won't be very productive, and risks pissing people off. --ColinFine (talk) 14:40, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Eleni Qirici

Hello! How are you? Can you review my article Eleni Qirici please and can you appear the Wikipedia information on Google please 🙏❤️ Lovingheartloving (talk) 09:11, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

It looks like advertising to me. Probably it will be deleted very soon. -- Hoary (talk) 09:37, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

How to give draft artical to promotion "REVIEW"

Moved from Wikipedia talk:Teahouse § How to give draft artical to promotion "REVIEW"

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Previous discussion : #Why my artical is draft?

How to give artical to promotion "REVIEW There is no option for promotion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syed89 (talk • contribs) 09:03, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

You were able to submit your draft Draft:Mushkil kusha and it was declined. Basically, too short to be an article. Within the article [[Ali ibn Abi Talib there is a section listing titles, so perhaps your information can be added there rather than as a separate article. David notMD (talk) 09:52, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

What is AUshield?

Previous discussion : #Can you upload files?

Tell me about AUshield. Mlik point (talk) 09:55, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

You are already successfully adding AJshield symbols to lists of routes in Australia, so why are you asking? David notMD (talk) 09:59, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Nothing, it's AUshield, not AJshield. Mlik point (talk) 10:06, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Mlik point Please do not post on Tea House, unless you have a question related to editing. If you want to discuss the template, the talk page is usually the best place, see Template talk:AUshield. Happy editing! Shushugah (he/him • talk) 10:59, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

If editors wish to talk about these issues [[2]] DragonofBatley (talk) 10:13, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Talk page suggestions

Hello, I'm here again as a newbie in Wikipedia. But I have a simple question- What happens and what should I do when a suggestion regarding an article I'm editing is not attended? I've been doing some research on jstor and some local news agencies so I can edit and add better resources about my hometown's wikipedia article. However, there is one section on the page that refers to an event, and I feel it needs to be removed, since there are no relevant articles about it and the only reference I found that is directly related to the said event does not mention about my hometown's involvement. Initially, I planned to remove the said part but as courtesy, I posted my concern on the article's talk page, hoping some admins/editors can see it. It's been months and there's still no update, and it appears the last interaction on the talk page was back in 2017. In this scenario, what should I do next? Should I go ahead and just remove the part and leave an edit summary? And should this be a practice in the future in case I encounter the same situation? Thank you, and sorry if it's a little confusing. >>> Wjddml (talk) 10:25, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

With a bit of digging, the event appears to be the Rolex China Sea Race, sailed from Hong Kong to Subic Bay (https://www.sail-world.com/news/213183/?source=rss). So yes, delete from the article about your town. David notMD (talk) 10:47, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, yes it is! The reference I check was from the Royal Hong Kong Yacht Club website, and I also found nothing. Thank you for the fast response. --Wjddml (talk) 11:10, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Wjddml: Welcome to the Teahouse! If you're referring to Talk:Bauang, your post there was only yesterday, and it may take a few days for other editors to respond.

For the general case, when you're looking for input but don't receive a response on an article talk page after a few days, you can ask the associated WikiProject (e.g. Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines) to comment on the article's talk page. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:47, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I appreciate your help. I will reach out to our friends from Tambayan Philippines for more information. Thank you! --Wjddml (talk) 13:53, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

How to redirect to Page?

When I Add [[ ]] to artical and write it does not redirect to that Page. How to fix that? Syed89 (talk) 10:44, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

For help in how to set up a redirect, try Help:Redirect. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:51, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello @Syed89, you can either Help:Redirect it or use a WP:Pipe trick, for example pipe reads more nicely than WP:Pipe, while both link to the same help page. Happy editing! ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 11:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

I suspect that Syed89 doesn't mean "redirect" (which is a special term in Wikipedia) but is just asking about Wikilinks. What is the item you are trying to add, and to which page, Syed89? --ColinFine (talk) 14:46, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Editing semi-protected pages

Are we allowed to edit semi-protected pages (requires user, 4 days old and 10 edits)? Mlik point (talk) 12:08, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Mlik point If you are able to edit, then absolutely yes! In 1 more day your account will be WP:AUTOCONFIRM. Happy editing! Shushugah (he/him • talk) 12:49, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Once you meet the criteria, Mlik point, then yes. But I would advise caution. Pages are semi-protected for a reason. Sometimes this is because of vandalism, and if you are editing in good faith, then that's fine. Other times they are protected because of a spate of good-faith but unhelpful (or even disruptive) edits - particularly if the article is on a controversial subject. In the latter case, I would advise any inexperienced editor to raise the edit they want to make on the talk page rather than boldly make the edit. --ColinFine (talk) 14:49, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

military transport

'Smilitary transport1nBold text''''''' 69.125.179.120 (talk) 12:41, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Do you have a question? Shushugah (he/him • talk) 12:50, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Declined Draft

yes they do connect . submitted article is having clear resources. also its verified and trusted information. and there is no point of article to be referred as declined . mentioned links shows clear information about brand . kindly don't declined submission without any foreground pls check facts and information . Sources user field (talk) 12:56, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Created a section header Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:51, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Sources user field: Welcome to the Teahouse! If you're referring to Draft:The VV Group, I suggest you use inline citations to help people understand which references correspond with which statements. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:52, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Sources user field. The references now in the article fail to establish that the company meets Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). They also fail to verify a large majority of the content in the draft article, and Verifiability is a core content policy. The references are directory listing that do not devote significant coverage to the company. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 14:32, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

which template is best to add on Sally Morgan (artist)

which template can be used for Sally Morgan (artist). there are total 3 persons with same name and different title at Sally Morgan. where can i find info about adding template? 28au21 (talk) 12:57, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@28au21: Welcome to the Teahouse! Try Template:Other people. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:54, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: using {{Other people}} has given me "Sally Morgan (artist) (disambiguation). however, using {{Other people|Sally Morgan}} has given correct link. thanks. -28au21 (talk) 14:16, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Edit Problem

When I edit something like image or a text in biography it is does not changed i reset cache but still this problem shows Please Help Me. Syed89 (talk) 13:13, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Syed89: Welcome to the Teahouse! Looking at your contributions, it appears that you are making changes to articles such as Lal Shahbaz Qalandar, Hasan ibn Ali, and Qasim ibn Muhammad ibn Abi Bakr. Could you please provide more specifics? GoingBatty (talk) 13:57, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: I edit a image in Ja'far al-Sadiq but when i search in google it show the old image but when i go to the artical the image changes to my edited Image. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syed89 (talk • contribs)

@Syed89: I see you successfully changed the image in the Ja'far al-Sadiq article earlier today. Wikipedia (and its volunteer editors) can not control how quickly Google updates their results. GoingBatty (talk) 16:53, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty:Ok Thanks for telling me i did not know that.

Why does my edited keep getting deleted? Wiki: Jungkook

Hello, i recently saw that my edit on Jungkook was deleted. All i did was update the cover photo (that was from two years ago), specified his hometown and added one sentence to the original wiki page. As far as i'm concerned, there is sufficient evidence for my the sentence i mentioned and the picture came from wikipedia commons. I wonder why it has been removed and has reverted back to the original wiki? Xinlia97 (talk) 14:30, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Xinlia97. The image that you added has been flagged as a possible copyright violation on Wikimedia Commons and has been proposed for deletion there. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 14:37, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Xinlia97, I see that you are the editor who uploaded that image to Commons, which is credited to Big Hit Entertainment. What evidence do you have that this image is freely licensed under an acceptable Creative Commons license or equivalent? That looks like a copyright restricted image to me. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 14:43, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

I am afraid I have tagged all of them for speedy deletion as a copyright infringment, because there is no evidence whatsoever of them being released under any free license (and in any case, commons policy requires evidence when an image previously appeared elsewhere). If those images are under a free license (not just publicitely available - see Gratis versus libre), follow the steps under the first paragraph of c:Commons:Volunteer_Response_Team#Licensing_images:_when_do_I_contact_VRT? (I have received permission from the original author (not me) to upload the file to Commons.) Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:08, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Date of birth. What is a reliable source?

Hello, just wondering, if I`ll create a new article about a living person, who is definitely notable, has plenty of reliable resources in mainstream media, newspapers but I have no reliable source (not even any kind of source) of their date of birth. Should I just not mention the date of birth in the infobox? DillonPalm (talk) 14:47, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

That is correct, DillonPalm. You should never put deliberately in an article something that does is not verifiable.

For the specific case of dates of birth and some other biographical information, we have in addition WP:BLPPRIVACY which encourages editors to only put down the year, even when day/month could be sourced reliably. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 14:51, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Tigraan! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DillonPalm (talk • contribs) 22:44, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Picture question

I posted a picture in an edit. I didn't see any way to indicate pic was in public domain, so I said it was my creation. Got flagged for deletion. how to fix this?? is public domain!  Stemgoo (talk) 16:27, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Stemgoo Welcome to Tea House! Next time, please link to the image or edit in question, which is this File:Pre-killings photo of the Dhaka terrorists in front of ISIS symbol.jpg, this image is NOT in public domain. The copyright of the image most likely belongs to Al-Hayat Media Center, an ISIS publication. I found the image here. You should apologise for trying to deceive fellow editors about the licensing of an image, and ask for help next time instead, if you think an image may have licensing issues. This image is definitely not public domain, but you could argue for a Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria rationale. ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:39, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Stemgoo. The term "public domain" has a specfic meaning when it comes to image licensing and this meaning can vary from coountry to country depending upon the relevant copyright laws, and it doesn't mean "publically available" in the sense that you find an image posted somewhere online and you can view or even download it free of charge; public domain has to do with the copyright status of the image. Why do you think the file you've uploaded falls within the public domain? Did you see something posted somewhere which explicitly stated it was as such or did you just assume that to automatically be the case? As explained here, pretty much all images you find online are going to be assumed to be protected by copyright unless it clearly states otherwise. So, take a look at WP:Public domain, and try and clarify why you think this photo is public domain.

Please understand that Commons only accepts files whose licenses satisfy c:Commons:Licensing. In addition, Commons and Wikipedia are separate websites and any issues with Commons files need to be resolved on Commons. So, go to c:File:Pre-killings photo of the Dhaka terrorists in front of ISIS symbol.jpg, click on the "Challenge speedy deletion" button and follow the instructions that appear and explain why you feel the photo is public domain. You can also follow the instructions given in the notification left for you at c:User talk:Stemgoo. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:14, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

All Updates were Rejected

Hello, I made significant additions to a City wiki page that included numerous sources. I am the director of our local museum and in conjunction with our city government, local tourism, and historical society made updates to the "Guntersville, Alabama" page. I even corrected some misspelled names and deleted an outdated website. Many of our sources were local books by noted historians.

Photos used were mostly made by me with the exception of two which I purchased from the photographers. What gives? ALL UPDATES WERE REJECTED. 71.91.131.2 (talk) 16:32, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Could you kindly give us further clues as to where you made the edit or under what account you made them? This is the only edit made for the current IP you signed with. --ARoseWolf 16:34, 2 September 2021 (UTC) Nevermind, I see it. Blaze is correct below. It appears, by your own admission here, that you have a COI concerning the topic. Please look at the policy provided and follow all guidelines before making further edits to that article or any article related to Guntersville, Alabama. --ARoseWolf 16:40, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Please see WP:COI since it appears you have a conflict of interest with the topic. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) (Stupidity by me) 16:36, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

This appears to be about Guntersville, Alabama and the edits made by Gsvmuseum. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 16:40, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Get through the beauracracy stuff (User name change, declaring COI, possibly declaring PAID) and you should be able to try again. Make changes in segments. That way pieces may be reverted (with reasons given) and others not. David notMD (talk) 17:03, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Gsvmuseum: Welcome to the Teahouse and thanks for your interest in improving the article. Given your COI, I suggest suggesting improvements on the article's talk page - Talk:Guntersville, Alabama - with the {{request edit}} template and reliable sources. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:16, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Account was indeffed. Hopefully they will see the advice given and come back with a new account that meets requirements. I am sure they have a wealth of knowledge of that area and could learn some things from others here as well. --ARoseWolf 17:20, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

New topic

Hello, I was wondering if you are notified about your edits being reverted? WikiJanitorPerson (talk) 18:32, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse! You are not automatically notified, but you can set up that type of notification. Happy editing and see you around! Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 18:41, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Doha Moustaquim

Hello Wiki Team, Recemtly i creat a page about a biography of Moroccan artist and it got declinde first time and then i rewritted in other version so guys can you tell me your opinion about the latest edit and your notes are important to me. Thanks you all talk 18:50, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@HellmuSa: It appears there are some unreferenced sentences in the Biography section. I don't understand whether the "field of illness" is medicine or research or making films about diseases or something else. Film titles should be italicized and not in all capital letters. Phrases such as "Faced and its inspiration." and "Growing up among many Moroccans." are not complete sentences, so they should be reworded. Also, could you please adjust your signature so your username will be visible when you post on talk pages? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 19:32, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty Thanks i will next time. @Hellmusa talk 19:37, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@HellmuSa: If you are manually creating your signature on each post, you should instead sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~, and Wikipedia will automatically expand it for you. I also suggest you update the references in your draft so they each have a |website= or |publisher= parameter, and that each non-English reference has |language= and |trans-title= parameters. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 19:42, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty am so thankfull men i really i appreciated your help.~~~~ talk 19:47, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks men~~~~. HellmuSa (talk) 19:51, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@HellmuSa: When signing your posts, don't use the <nowiki>...</nowiki> tags. Those tags are just used to demonstrate the code. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:32, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Maintenance tags

Hello. Hope you're well? Just a quick question. How often do tags get reviewed? I keep finding ones that I don't think are accurate? I don't know how long they've been there? But many seem out-of-date. What is the process for flagging these and getting them reviewed? Thanks! BorleyBoy (talk) 19:44, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@BorleyBoy: Actually, there is no official review process or official flagging process. Maintenance tags are usually add when an article has some issues that should be addressed and then they just stick there until they're either removed or the issues are fixed. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) (Stupidity by me) 20:04, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Blaze!

@BorleyBoy Welcome to the Teahouse. Whilst we do have a small number of 'wikignomes' who like working through groups of templated articles and fixing things, in general we all make our individual assessments of whether or not the template is still relevant. That does takes a degree of experience so, as a very new user, if you think a template is wrong, you could raise it at the article's talk page. But for poorly visited, esoteric articles, you might find no-one responds. So, having assured yourself that the template is no longer relevant any more, you could 'boldly' remove it, providing you explain your reasoning with a good edit summary. If you want us to check that you've done it ok, just pop back any time and give us a link to the article, and we can tell you if we agree with your assessment. I hope this helps. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:15, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Much obliged, Nick!

@BorleyBoy: As a complete aside, can I ask why you gave yourself that username, as I see you've made a few edits to the Borley Rectory article? You might (or might not!) be interested to know that my mother was the artist who created the book jacket illustration for James Turner's 'My Life with Borley Rectory', and I still have all her original drawings that she produced for this and many other Bodley Head publications in the 1950s. (Totally off-topic, of course!) Nick Moyes (talk) 20:23, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

That is amazing. That is the same picture I have as my Facebook background currently. I would buy the book, but it costs like £130! It is such a great cover. I am currently writing a podcast about Borley and doing daily research. What a strange thing! Thanks, Nick! You've slightly blown my mind, but anyway...

I put this up on Instagram last week: https://www.instagram.com/p/CSqkKLVj4fM/?utm_medium=copy_link

Superb stuff! She'd be so pleased to see it being used. Please post or email me a link to your podcast when it's done - I'd love to listen to it. Mum often used to put my dad's initials (C.A.S.M.) into some of her book jacket illustrations, but I suspect she felt adding it to a gravestone was not appropriate for a newly-wed artist and her ex-navy husband. Last time I looked, the book was selling for around 80 quid on eBay, but that was quite some time ago. It's a really hilarious read, too. (I've already told her grandchildren never simply to chuck out her artwork and illustrated books when I'm dead and gone! LOL). Nick Moyes (talk) 22:28, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Nick. I'm only writing episode 4 of 6 - the Foyster tenancy with the wall writing. I will need to invest in the book. Didn't think it could really live up to the cover though! It is so so good. Anyway, thanks again. Edward — Preceding unsigned comment added by BorleyBoy (talk • contribs) 08:02, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Deletions to edits I made

I updated the page for my grandfather James Bell footballer from documents and photos in my possession along with facts from a published book where I quoted the ISBN number.

Why were all my amendments deleted when I was adding information from my own family archives?

I have either original documents or copies and all the facts are already in the public domain. GaryPBell66 (talk) 20:03, 2 September 2021 (UTC)Gary Bell

Please see WP:COI because you have a conflict of interest because of your relation to him. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) (Stupidity by me) 20:04, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@GaryPBell66 welcome to the Teahouse. Whilst @Blaze The Wolf was right to point out that you do have a 'conflict of interest', more to the point is the fact that Wikipedia can only accept additions that can be verified by anyone with access to a library and/or the internet from properly published sources, not personal archives or the memories of people that knew the subject. This can be frustrating to someone such as yourself who could, theoretically, populate an article with all sorts of interesting facts. But because anyone could, in theory, add just about anything on that basis to any article, we have to create rules about needing sources to verify what is inserted. It looks like most of your additions were not supported in this way, so would have been summarily removed. With over 6.2 million articles to maintain, I'm afraid sometimes that reverting process does come across as a little terse. But the ratio of editors to articles means we rarely have time to explain in subtle terms why such well-meaning additions cannot be accepted. Kind regards. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:33, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia has rules and guidelines that can appear obtuse for new editors. For example, at James Bell (footballer, born 1883) you claimed the photos were your "own work" when they were clearly taken more than 100 years ago. You added content without providing references at the same time, and you added content that can not be verified by publicly available documentation. Your content is not 'lost', as it can be retrieved from View history. A path open to you is to copy that into your Sandbox and then learn how to make it acceptable. David notMD (talk) 21:09, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Public Domain pictures

Are all pics in Wikipedia in Public domain ? Can they be used for commercial products like notebooks ? Thanks. Mexbob52 (talk) 20:57, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Mexbob52: Some are public domain, most are not. Most have a free license that requires you to give attribution to the author if you use the picture. Some pictures are commercial fair use and have restricted on how you can use them. Click on an image to open up the image page and you will see the licensing information. ~Anachronist (talk) 21:10, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Mexbob52: Just going to add that while Wikipedia editors generally try to avoid mistakes when it comes to things like image licensing, all editors are WP:VOLUNTEERs and can offer no real legal advice when it comes to such things. This means that you probably also should be diligent and careful when it comes to re-using the images you find uploaded here. Don’t just automatically assume it’s OK because of how the file is licensed on Wikipedia. If it turns out that there are problems arising from how you re-use an image, you will be the one responsible for resolving it. There are many issues related to image re-use that go beyond simple copyright matters and you will be the one who needs to figure out how or whether any of them apply to your situation. — Marchjuly (talk) 22:41, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Notability check for a potential article

I'm looking to write an article about two Michelin star restaurant in San Francisco called Californios. Chef Val Cantu has many mentions in prestigious Food & Wine publications along with Michelin's guides. He also participated in MasterChef as a Chef judge. Katie.Kroshka (talk) 22:11, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse and thanks for your question. If you are affiliated with Cantu or the restaurant, please disclose your conflict of interest before editing or creating an article on the restaurant or the subject. Please read this section on the notability guidelines for companies, and this section for restaurants in particular. Other notability considerations apply if you decide to try to write an article about Cantu himself. If you have further questions, feel free to respond. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 22:22, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Katie.Kroshka, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm afriad that "mentions" are not enough: are there places where people unconnected with the restaurant have written at some length about it (and not just repeating what it says about itself)? --ColinFine (talk) 22:43, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@ColinFine: I would think that a restaurant rated two stars in the Michelin Guide is likely to be notable. There are only about 400 of them on the planet. I would be surprised if significant coverage cannot be found, although it may be obscure foodie reviews, because typically a 2-star restaurant is priced out of the range of most people, where a fine dinner for two can cost $2000. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:21, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Katie.Kroshka, I disagree completely with the initial feedback offered above, and agree with Anachronist. Any restaurant on Planet Earth with two Michelin stars is pretty much guaranteed to have significant coverage in reliable, independent sources sufficient to establish notability. These are fine dining restaurants at the pillar of success and worldwide acclaim. To start, consider this review: In a new SoMa space, Californios cements a grand vision of Latin American fine dining, (July 2, 2021), Soleil Ho, San Francisco Chronicle. Then, consider this review which calls it "the best Mexican restaurant in America", and this and this. I have no doubt that this restaurant is notable and ought to have a Wikipedia article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:47, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

In the spirit of full disclosure, I wrote the biography of restaurant critic Soleil Ho. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:50, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

That's actually less expensive than I expected. $300-$700 for a dinner for two. Although that's probably without wine pairings for each item you eat, which would jack up the cost (for example, a full tasting-menu dinner for two at Chez TJ, a one-star place local to me, can cost $1500 after tax and gratuity). ~Anachronist (talk) 03:16, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Anachronist@Cullen328@Katie.Kroshka I completely agree that any two 2 Michelin restaurant is notable. You can find existing articles at Category:Michelin Guide starred restaurants by country to get a sense of writing style and quality. I imagine such articles potentially risk being written in vanity/promotional way so reading up on Wikipedia:Neutral point of view would be of extra essence. Good luck editing! ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 08:48, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Reliable Sources

I want to create an article that's why I need to know according to Wikipedia which new sources are reliable. Can anyone say that how can I check particular website are reliable or not. २ तकर पेप्सी (talk) 22:24, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

You'd better start by assuming that any website is unreliable for any purpose, until you have good reason to believe that it is reliable for your purpose. Please read Wikipedia:Reliable sources, which is necessarily rather long and complex. -- Hoary (talk) 22:36, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

There is also WP:RSP which lists many sources that the community regards as reliable and unreliable, but for your purpose in writing about a new TV show in India, it is unlikely that sources you find would be listed there. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:12, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Persistent incorrect edits from changing IP addresses

The page Rose Parade is being repeatedly edited by an ever changing cast of IPv6 addresses -- but since they are all from the same geographic area, making essentially the same change, I strongly suspect they are all the same person. This person keeps asserting, with no evidence, and contrary to current evidence, that the 2022 parade will be cancelled due to COVID-19 (and once, the 2024 parade(!)). Another editor and I have made some changes to the page to make it more apparent that the 2022 parade is currently expected to happen, but the IP editor seems impervious to these changes and the many, many reverts we have done; I'm pretty much past assuming good faith. In the rare cases where the same IP address (usually an IPv4 address) has made other edits, most of those have been bad as well, and there have been warnings given. I'm at a loss how to address this, since almost every edit has come from a different IP address, so there's no point in putting a warning on the talk pages, and there's no point in IP banning. Help! Floatjon (talk) 23:04, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Floatjon: You can make a request at WP:RFPP for the page to be semiprotected to restrict edits by IP editors. RudolfRed (talk) 00:01, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Editing extended protected pages

Are we allowed to edit extended protected pages (requires user, 30 days old and 500 edits)? Mlik point (talk) 00:32, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Do you meet the requirements? If no, then no. (Generally speaking, pages are put under XCP as part of discretionary sanctions.) —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 00:51, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Mlik point, the great majority of your recent edits have been to the Teahouse, or asking other people to do things, or both. I suggest that you try editing a non-problematic (not semi-protected) article, of course basing your edits on specified, reliable sources. -- Hoary (talk) 01:27, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

The Teahouse?

What is the Teahouse? I was recently invited here, is this place accessible without an invite? PyroCraiglist (talk) 01:37, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, @PyroCraiglist:! The Teahouse is a friendly place to ask questions about Wikipedia and editing Wikipedia. You were invited here because you are a new editor, and you may find this a helpful place to ask questions along your journey as a Wikipedia editor. We're glad you're here and please don't hesitate to ask questions. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 02:05, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@PyroCraiglist: Welcome to the Teahouse! Wikipedia:Teahouse is accessible by everyone to use without an invite. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:07, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Gradient rings in preview generated on Wikipedia android

Hi,

         Article: MasterChef India – Telugu
         Screenshot: https://ibb.co/6D79GTv

If i use android app to view this page, gardient ring effect is occurring on infobox image preview shown on the top of the article. The infobox image is an svg file on commons[3]. But any of it's generated files in various resolutions had no such problem. Is this a bug, please help. Anoop (talk) 02:19, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Anoopspeaks. Generally, the people who answer questions at the Teahouse are knowledgeable about editing Wikipedia and its policies, but not about how the software works, or possible bugs. WP:VPT is a better place for such questions. --ColinFine (talk) 10:11, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks.Anoop (talk) 10:51, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Editing fully-protected pages

Are we allowed to edit fully-protected for administrators? Mlik point (talk) 02:26, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Mlik point Please read WP:PPLIST and WP:UAL if you further questions regarding user rights and page protection. The short answer to your questions is Yes, fully-protected pages or articles can only be edited by administrators. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 02:32, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

And Mlik point, please read the advice I gave you just a short while ago. -- Hoary (talk) 04:55, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

How can i declare Conflict of interest

please help me with my drafts I really don't understand where I am going wrong I know there is not reliable sources but if I add reliable and authentic sources what else I have to change. Nihara.widefy (talk) 03:36, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

For help in how to declare a conflict of interest, please read WP:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:04, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

User:Nihaha.widefy - If you know that there are not reliable sources, why do you keep resubmitting the same drafts? Also, the message that you posted to my talk page is inconsistent. You say that you do not have a conflict of interest, but you also included a conflict of interest box. Are you having difficulty in understanding the questions that we are asking? Robert McClenon (talk) 05:45, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Independent from the key question of notability, you have many, many errors in grammar, lack of or excessive capitalization, repetition of content, refs at section titles, etc. A constant piece of advice given to new editors is to put in months of improving existing articles, as a means of learning how to create content that is not reverted. You, however, immediately started by creating three new articles, which have collectively accrued eight Declines. You are wasting your time and the time of reviewers. I suggest you stop working on your drafts (or at least, stop resubmitting those), and put in months of improving existing articles. Drafts left fallow have six months before being deleted, so you have time. David notMD (talk) 12:08, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Nihara.widefy: And even if the draft is deleted after six months, they are easy to recover once you are experienced and ready to start working on them again. See WP:REFUND for details. ~Anachronist (talk) 13:01, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Is it okay to move a draft created using the AfC process to my user space

Even though I am an autoconfirmed user I always use the Article Wizard because I once made a mistake and I published an article instead of saving it as a draft, after I hit the publish button, thinking it will stay in the draft space; that article I created directly by clicking the red link in the requested articles' page.

Now, after I have created multiple drafts, I think it would be a good idea to move some of my drafts into user space so I can publish them myself to the main space when I finish working on them. Also, this would reduce the stress on our fellow Wikipedia reviewers. What do you think? SX3001 (talk) 04:18, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, SX3001. As an autoconfirmed editor, the Articles for Creation process is entirely optional for you. If you are confident about the notability of the topics, and have written well-referenced drafts, then you are free to move your drafts to mainspace whenever you see fit. It does not matter whether the drafts are in draft space or your user space when you move them. What matters is their compliance with Wikipedia's Policies and guidelines. So, if you are prepared for the "tender mercies" of the New Pages Patrollers, go for it. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:52, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

how remove external link in source editing?

in visual editing clicking link symbol will let to you convert external link to plain text. for example: [http://unlikely.net.au Unlikely Journal for Creative Arts] to "Unlikely Journal for Creative Arts". clicking link button in source editong provides option for inserting link only! how can i remove link in source editing? 28au21 (talk) 05:04, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@28au21 Not sure if this is what you wanted, take [http://unlikely.net.au Unlikely Journal for Creative Arts] for example, simply remove the squared brackets manually and also the URL, the ending result should look like this Unlikely Journal for Creative Arts. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 05:14, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Displaying a URL as plain text, not an outbound link

Hi. Is there a template for displaying a url as plain text, not hyperlinked? I need to show a URL, but in context it's better if it's not a link. Like, for example, if you wanted to say "An example of a hyperlink is https://example.com." without https://example.com turning into an outbound link to something which shouldn't actually exist. Thanks! EVhotrodder (talk) 07:14, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

https://example.com works, but it's a cheap bodge. I don't know if there's an "official" way to do it. Maproom (talk) 07:39, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

(ec) Did nowiki tag stop working?! I don't think so.... Look: https://example.com  :) --CiaPan (talk) 07:48, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

https://example.com nowiki tags work. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:44, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you both very much! EVhotrodder (talk) 07:49, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Try using the WP:NOWIKI syntax like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page. If you drop the <code></code> syntax, the link will appear unhighlighted as reagular text like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page. The <pre></pre> syntax might work as well. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:53, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

I would like to create a page of my own

I have not yet thought of a post but I use Wikipedia daily. I would like to have something of my own for all to be able to see. Once I have my topic, I would like to know what are the steps to get my post approved? Leader Rui (talk) 07:50, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Leader Rui. You might want to take a look at Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything, Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Ownership of content because it sort of sounds like you misunderstanding some important things about Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:55, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Leader Rui If you want to start a WP-article, first make sure you have the sources demanded at WP:GNG, otherwise you are wasting time. Then see guidance at WP:YFA. Being able to add references properly is essential, see WP:REFBEGIN and WP:TUTORIAL. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:04, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Is it possible

Is it possible to create pages in the Ukrainian-language Wikipedia about various things and people (including of Chinese origin) with bringing reliable sources

Hello. My major languages used in the Wikipedia are Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Croatian, and Chinese. For the Ukrainian-language Wikipedia, is it suitable to create a page about various things and people, which also include Chinese ones, with bringing reliable sources? Hrvatskiukrajinski (talk) 10:49, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Hrvatskiukrajinski Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. It sounds to me like you should be able to do that, but you will need to ask on the Ukrainian Wikipedia what can be done there. Every language version of Wikipedia is its own project, with their own editors and policies. 331dot (talk) 10:52, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

You have to ask about Ukrainian-language Wikipedia on Ukrainian-language Wikipedia. en-WP has no authority over it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:52, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Can you please help to bring me to the Ukrainian-language Wikipedia to ask questions there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hrvatskiukrajinski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

The Ukrainian help desk is at uk:Вікіпедія:Кнайпа_(допомога). --David Biddulph (talk) 11:10, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

I suspect this new account is a block evasion of User:Adamdaniel864, who was indef blocked for abusing multiple accounts. (Also blocked at Ukranian Wikipedia.) The claims of interest in the above-mentioned languages is WP:DUCK. David notMD (talk) 12:22, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Well, I had a similar thought. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:46, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Believe me. I never mean to declare anything bad and I even bring reliable sources. Although I'm different, I'm very interested in Ukrainian because the language has a lot of specialities, such as the alphabet ї, and even г is h. I'm very new. I'm very interested to edit many new pages in the Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Croatian, and Chinese-language Wikipedia. Could you please allow me? How to remove all my old accounts? Can you please help me to remove all old accounts and set only one new account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hrvatskiukrajinski (talk • contribs) 12:56, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Hrvatskiukrajinski: accounts cannot be deleted. By making more and more accounts you only dig yourself further into the hole. Please stop creating any further accounts, because blocks apply per person, not per account, meaning as long as Adamdaniel864 is blocked (and globally locked), you're not welcome to edit here. While its theoretically possible to appeal the global lock via email, to stewardswikimedia.org, I do not think that you will be sucessfull with appealing the lock at any time soon. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:14, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

You are continuing to attempt to evade a block. I have blocked this latest account of yours. Please read User talk:Adamdaniel864#August 2021 very carefully. Do not attempt to respond or react to it in any way. A day later, read it again, very carefully. When you're sure that you understand what it says, take the advice that it provides. -- Hoary (talk) 13:15, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Need clarification

My One article was rejected. According to the Afc reviewer, this article has no reliable source. I want to know that, why this source are not reliable ? I need Clarification with one reason. Article Link = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sushma_Adhikari Jaintnp (talk) 12:33, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Declined (twice), not Rejected. Two weaknesses mentioned by the reviewers: refs do not establish her career as being notable, and refs not reliable sources. On the first point, I agree that her career as a model and appearing in (not performing in) music videos is not notable, nor, to date, her work in film. David notMD (talk) 12:44, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Jaintnp: Welcome to the Teahouse! The message at the top of your draft states "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources", which is not the same as "This article has no reliable source". The reviewer also left some comments about your draft, which have been moved to Draft talk:Sushma Adhikari. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:09, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Notifications by specific editors

Can editors be requested to stop pinging me? I've had some issues with certain editors and was wondering if it is possible for them to stop involving me in discussions and getting personal on their responses? Not gonna name editors just asking if it's possible or to block them? 🐉 DragonofBatley (talk) 14:10, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

You can turn off notifications by inserting them into the box labeled "Ignored users" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo and saving your preferences (but you could try asking them politely first) Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:15, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Victor Schmidt: thanks for the information — Preceding unsigned comment added by DragonofBatley (talk • contribs) 14:17, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Panama Presidents photos

Presidents of Panama new photos.

On Wikipedia Commons, may I upload these photos? . I saw another user upload files from here , and I wanted to make sure every President of Panama has a photo. EducationThruLists (talk) 14:52, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi EducationThruLists. Those photos are copyrighted- at the bottom of the page, it says "derechos reservados" which means "all rights reserved". Wikimedia Commons only accepts freely licenced images, so these would not be accepted at Commons. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:00, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@EducationThruLists: Welcome to the Teahouse! For each person without a photo, I went to the article about them and requested a photo on the article's talk page. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:27, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@EducationThruLists: I also requested photos for you on Talk:List of heads of state of Panama. GoingBatty (talk) 15:34, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

And I think why the ones mentioned in the PDF that are on Commons, they look to have been taken around 1945, so maybe the copyright on them has expired (I know nothing about copyright law in Panama). Joseph2302 (talk) 15:32, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

You could probably check out Copyright law of Panama to make sure. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) (Stupidity by me) 15:53, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

References

How to put <ref:name="1"> correctly to avoid getting an error message

Hello, I was editing references in the page about NU'EST, when I noticed that the second and third references are basically the same. After that, I tried to put the ref name 1 template and when I saw the preview of my edit, I saw that there was the message that there was an error in the reference (this is not the first time that when I try to do this type of edits, this warning message appears). How can I add the template successfully? Bloomingbyungchan (talk) 17:08, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Bloomingbyungchan: "1" is not a valid value for the name="" attribute, as values must not be purely numeric, try using ":1" instead. See WP:REFNAME for more info. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:09, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

I unfortunately have the same problem. As I mentioned the two sources are the same, the only different thing is the way the publisher of the article is written, also when I look at the preview, the number of the second reference doesn't become the same as the first. This made me think: Is it possible to hide the reference template inside the ref name:1 one? Bloomingbyungchan (talk) 18:31, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

How to find the sources listed in an article without a link

How do I find a source with no link, like this one: The Exodus, by Michael Jarvis, in The Bermudian magazine, June 2001. I tried looking it up but I didn't get anywhere. Riverblade (talk) 17:18, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

I recommend asking the editor who added it, which appears to be this editor. They may have used a hard copy of a print issue that isn't digitized. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 17:58, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

If possible should there be a link to an online version of the source? The Wikipedia:Citing sources page didn't say so, but it seems pretty useful for other people trying to find the source. Riverblade (talk) 18:42, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

It's my understanding that best practices are to include a link if possible, and if not, then the source should be available in libraries, schools, etc., the excerpt should be quoted directly in the reference, the page number of the magazine included, a link to the magazine/publication's Wikipedia article, and other ways to direct readers to the exact source of the data or information. You can read more about that here and here. So that citation should have included more information, yes. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 18:58, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It is indeed useful, if one exists, but it's not a requirement. Provided that the necessary bibliographical details are cited (which is a requirement), a local public library – if it did not have a copy – could request a copy, or a photocopy of the article, to be sent to them (since some library somewhere likely has it in their archives), or one might be able to contact the magazine directly (if it's still extant) and request (doubtless for a small fee) either. Even if one had to journey in person to, say, the British Library or the New York Public Library Main Branch in order to consult a copy of the magazine, this counts for Wikipedia purposes as being publicly available. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.0.2 (talk) 19:04, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Article Rating Unknown

Could someone please help me regarding the rating of this article? I was accepted for this article and on the talk page, the person who accepted it did not specify the rating of the article, could someone please rate this talk page? Seb { 💬 Talk + 📝 Edits } 17:55, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Seb: I would probably say it's a start class article. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) (Stupidity by me) 18:36, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Random IP user talking to me for seemingly no reason

So a short time after I registered my account, I got a message from a random IP (82.28.152.167), saying hello. I decided to say hello back. Today, several days later, they said, “I will make a Wikipedia account soon, to join you in editing.” (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Council_of_Seraphim?markasread=226986219&markasreadwiki=enwiki#Hello)

I checked their contributions and talk page and they have not done this to anyone else recently—they also have some warnings for disruptive editing. What do I do? I find it strange that they randomly messaged me, a new account. The Council of Seraphim | speak before the Council 18:52, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

That IP geolocates to the Reading (Berkshire) area (though it's an inexact science). I don't of course know (or want to know) where you are, but if you are similarly located or have connections there, it could be someone who knows you and that you've started editing here. Edits have being made via this IP for over 4 months, but it might well be dynamic, so they do not necessarily all come from the same person. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.0.2 (talk) 19:16, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

I need a bit of advice/mentoring

I don't know what to do. A while back, I got mixed up in the Articles for Deletion debate on Maureen Mbondiah (the AfD wasn't nominated by me, I just weighed in after). The debate was closed as no consensus, which is fine. But I don't know how much post-debate activity is allowed or appropriate? I don't want to hound the subject or those who are writing the article. On the other hand, the remaining article is niggling at me in a very annoying way. It introduces Mbondiah as the founder and operations director of Dravens healthcare. Now whatever she's notable for, it's not Draven's healthcare, which is such a tiny company that it's described in the UK as a "micro entity", with a turnover so small it's allowed to submit a miniaturised version of accounts to companies house. I think its turnover is less than £300K, which even given the appalling rates of pay to healthcare workers means it can't be employing more than 10 full-time equivalents, and its business (supplying agency staff to health-care) is completely run-of-the-mill. The reference supporting its activities is a job recruitment advert the company published, which is not independent. And the final sentence "In 2020 she became the first Zimbabwean in the United Kingdom to launch a franchise for her company Dravens Healthcare" makes little sense to me. I'm not sure what a franchise means for a company like this; it's not like Kentucky Fried Chicken, a global brand that offers people the opportunity to have a franchise restaurant. Part of me is itching to get rid of the job-advert reference, the last sentence, and possibly the whole mention of Dravens healthcare. Is it appropriate to put non-notable activities in articles about notable people (the fact she's got an article must mean the consensus is she's notable, presumably for her awards and philanthropic work)? Is this just a stick I should drop? Am I being unfair? Honestly, I don't want to sabotage an article just because I think it should probably have been deleted, so I sort of feel my hands are tied; but it just doesn't seem right, when others whose claim to notability seem much stronger are regularly getting trimmed. Mbondiah also had a string of awards in the original article, many of which were in good faith untraceable, mistakes, over-blown, or in a few cases, with bad faith on my part, outright fabrications; I left one with a citation-needed tag as I can't trace it but wasn't 100% certain it was a fabrication; but no citation has appeared; how long should such tags remain before the unsupported information is removed? I am Confused! I would ask at the talk-page, but the only people with any interest in Mbondiah are those who wrote the stuff that I'm dubious about. And also, it's more a question about me than the article: is it best, post AfD, just to walk away, and leave others to handle the article? Elemimele (talk) 19:17, 3 September 2021 (UTC)