User talk:Elonka

Moneybomb RfC

Hey Elonka. Just wanted to give you a heads-up that I've listed Moneybomb for RfC. Best of luck with the admin nom! — HelloAnnyong [ t · c ] 16:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

My vote

Well your eloquence changed my opinion, well that and your innate suitability to the role. My own take on Jimbo is he is in a very difficult position and for me supporting him based on his actions to date is a no-brainer because of this. Best wishes. Thanks, SqueakBox 00:52, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

email

I don't use that acct for email, normally. Remember, I don't trust yahoo for email -- it's my 'throwaway' account. I'm not expecting a reply from him anyway, the "all caps" email claim was a little bizarre. Mindraker (talk) 21:06, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Hm, I guess I never noticed that I tend to sign my name when I am really sincere about wanting something. I'll blame my dad on this one, heh. Mindraker (talk) 21:22, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I really do appreciate your concern, but I am rather interested to see if he will forward me the (alleged) email, seeing as he was not allowed to post it on Wikipedia. If his claims are true, he would theoretically be jumping at the opportunity to "spread the word". If his claims are false, theoretically, it would be more difficult to provide the evidence. So far, I have not received contact from him. Mindraker (talk) 21:32, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations

I'm pleased to inform you that you are now an administrator. Please read all the material on the administrators' reading list before testing out your new privileges. For instructions, please see the administrators' how-to guide. Best of luck — Dan | talk 01:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congrats

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Congrats, Elonka -- enjoy! :-) SlimVirgin ^{(talk)(contribs)} 01:38, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Let me be the first -- even before the bureaucrats -- second to say congrats. Now go ahead and prove me wrong. -- tariqabjotu 01:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congrats as well. Horologium (talk) 01:24, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congrats Secret ^account 01:24, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations, Elonka! If you have any admin-related questions, feel free to contact me on my talk page. Best, Nishkid64 (talk) 01:27, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I think you should make your thank you notes mimic an RFAR summons.  :-) - Jehochman ^Talk 01:37, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congrats Elonka.. now don't go proving ned and wayne wrong.. let the massive abuse of power begin! ;) EnsRedShirt (talk) 01:38, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Dang, I was pretty sure you wouldnt get it. I thought even a 75% meant a no consensus. Had I known, I would have sent 12 more emails to your former opposers. Just kidding (did not do any of that). Anyway, you wanted it real bad and you got it so you must be happy. Congrats. --Matt57 ^{(talk•contribs)} 02:15, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations, and best of luck. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 17:01, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations from me as well. I trust you'll prove to be a great admin. --Infophile ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 18:44, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

The request for adminship was successful!

The admins' T-shirt. Acalamari 01:38, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

You've done it, Elonka! Your RfA was successful, and had 176 supports in all! Here is a link to the school for new admins (do check this out, it's very useful! I wish it had existed when I first became an admin!), and a new T-shirt! Take great care when using your new tools! If you need help, don't hesitate to contact me or other more experienced administrators! Good luck! Acalamari 01:38, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations! 74% support and still making it we can thank our crats for good judgement (and hopefuly thank you soon for good admining!). Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 01:41, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations, Elonka, I am very, very pleased. --A. B. ^(talk) 01:49, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey! Congrats! :) Now, make yourself useful! :P SQL^{Query me!} 02:17, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Echoing the above sentiments, Congratulations on your new responsibilities, and I wish you the best in your wiki-admining. ZZ ^Claims ~ Evidence 02:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey, hey! Congratulations, and oh yeah, cleanup on aisle 3! --Bradeos Graphon (talk) 02:39, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations! (Has anyone ever gone through as much to get the mop?) You'll be great. Unschool (talk) 02:44, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Message

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You may seek the planets as a guide if you are lost...     ▪◦▪≡SiREX≡Talk01:46, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Don't just stand around gawking! You missed a bit on the left. Tim Vickers (talk) 01:47, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congratulations! I hope you will do a great job as an admin. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 02:41, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Much congratulations! :) --Fang Aili ^talk 02:58, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congrats Elonka! It's great to finally have your dedication and judgment on the administrative team. :) --krimpet✽ 03:07, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congrats! Although I voted against your adminship, I hope that my concerns, and those of your other detractors, will not materialise. I also do sincerely hope that you will exercise your newly-acquired powers responsibly and in the best overall interests of wikipedia. Ohconfucius (talk) 03:09, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm so happy that in the end those who did their very best to submarine you did not cripple your RfA. The proof is in the pudding, er, the bucket! :P Monsieurdl ^{mon talk-mon contribs} 03:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Belated co-nom congratulations! Welcome to the team :) - Alison ^❤ 03:22, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

.snoitalutargnoCFerrylodge (talk) 04:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Long overdue, but thankfully this time was a success. Congratulations. - auburnpilot talk 05:20, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations again! Daniel Case (talk) 06:18, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Ditto my namesake directly above. Daniel 11:01, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations. And I didn't even have to pull out my rant about opposing you for last year's political opinions. :-> Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:37, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Right (write?) on ! ;) Exit2DOS2000^•T•C• 02:43, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations Elonka! Ariel♥Gold 14:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Aye.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 03:41, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

w00t!

I just got home from work, so I just saw that you finally got the mop. About damn time! Congrats and all that...it got ugly there for awhile. Party on Elonka's talkpage! :) LaMenta3 (talk) 05:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congrats Elonka - it was a long time coming. I feel better knowing that you are out there, protecting the streets of Gotham. :) - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 15:04, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, about time too! Deb (talk) 18:30, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Congrats on your moppification. Best regards, Húsönd 23:48, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

From me as well, congradulations! Maser ^(Talk!) 10:22, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Double wOOt! Congrats, Elonka!! Dreadstar † 08:33, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

w0000000000000000000000t! — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 16:52, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Aramgar, Kafka Liz and the Rfa

Elonka, your note is much appreciated and goes a long way toward easing the concerns Kafka Liz and I had regarding your administration. There’s certainly no doubting your dedication to the project and the overall quality of your work. It says a lot to us that you have stepped forward like to this to apologize on the behalf of those involved.

Regarding how we learned of the RfA: no one emailed or contacted us in any way. Kafka Liz really did just stumble on it, as she said, and mentioned it to me. Our relatively small number of edits does not reflect the amount of time we spend at the site; Kafka Liz, in particular, does a fair bit of reading about policy (and later explaining it to me).

I’m assuming that most of the tension here stems from the Franco-Mongol alliance issue? I am aware of it but haven’t had the inclination to read through all of the pages now associated with the matter, especially when it is so clear that yours is the correct position. I too have little patience with pot-stirrers.

In any case, thank you again for your note. I think we can easily put this behind us now and believe we will work well together in the future, since our editorial interests intersect fairly closely. On that note, allow me to congratulate you on your successful RfA and wish you all the best. Aramgar (talk) 22:03, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Elonka, at the risk of sounding too much like Aramgar, I too would like to thank you for your kind words and congratulate you on your adminship. And wish you an excellent holiday season. :) Kafka Liz (talk) 18:43, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Ciphertext congratulations

Elonka,

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Sincerely, --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:20, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

RE:Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 3

Welcome! I hope you will do a great job as an admin. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 09:24, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Mongols

I'll do what I can. john k (talk) 16:08, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

God, I just read over the FA nomination of Franco-Mongol relations. Something is deeply broken there - you were not only the only person who brought up the factual inaccuracy of the article, you were the only person who seemed to even think this was something that might be questioned about the article. For anyone to pass any judgement on criterion 1C, and probably 1B, as well, one needs to have some knowledge of the subject area. All these busybodies at FAC spend all their time going on about poor introductions and too many images, and ignore incredibly serious, vast problems with the article. If the article had had a good introduction and not had too many images, it appears that, aside from you, it would have passed FAC. This is potentially disastrous - any crank with an interest in an obscure topic can make a featured article by tendentious citations. Beyond that, at certain points PHG's work approaches plagiarism - he uses pretty much verbatim quotes from his sources without making clear that they are quotations, although he does cite the source and usually include the original text in a footnote. If we're going to have featured articles, they really need to have a serious factual due diligence, and this should be a formal part of the process. Fact-checking ought to be the most important of deciding whether something is an FA, not an afterthought. This makes me deeply concerned for the integrity of the whole FA process. john k (talk) 15:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Arbcom may end up being the way to go, although I think the problem is really structural. Anyone with any knowledge of the specific stuff PHG talks about quickly sees that it's tendentious. The problem is that there is nothing in FAR which actually makes it mandatory that anybody with any actual knowledge of the subject reviews it. So we make damn sure that FA articles are proofread, and use summary style, and don't have too many pictures, and that there's a citation for any statement of fact. But there's nobody to check if the citations are actually good, if the article actually represents an accurate portrait of the state of the field. To be approved for publication (and that, imo, is what FA should be), a normal encyclopedia article has to be peer reviewed by people knowledgeable in the field. This is completely lacking in FA, and is a serious problem. Obviously, we are somewhat lacking in people with actual expertise, and there is, further, something of an anti-expert ideology among a lot of people here. But some kind of serious content review process for FAs seems essential, or wikipedia could be in for some serious embarrassment. john k (talk) 19:22, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

What really astonishes me about this is that I can't figure out what it's in service of. Usually the POV behind tendentious work like this is readily apparent. Here I have no idea what is motivating PHG. I can't even conceive of what possible nationslist POV would lead one to want to exaggerate the degree of alliance between Mongols and Franks. Is he a propagandist for King Hethoum of Armenia, or something? Now he's trying to claim that Bohemond could have ridden 125 miles a day, like Mongol post riders, and arrived in Baghdad from Acre in five days. Sigh. john k (talk) 06:10, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 3

It was no big difficulty for me- I would have defended anyone I knew against the sort of attacks that were going on :) It feels good going back to editing history articles instead of engaging in heated debates, and I'm sure you'd appreciate that. If you need any help, you can always come to me as you know. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Monsieurdl ^{mon talk-mon contribs} 16:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

• Best of luck. Sorry for all the drama. Now, for the hard part: be very careful when using the block button, which I know from hard-won experience. :-) Bearian (talk) 18:08, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Help with Moneybomb

Hey Elonka. I know you were active on the page awhile ago, so I could use some help. A single-purpose account has been editing/hacking/butchering the article - once, twice, three times. I'm trying to assume good faith, but the page is a mess now. I reverted it twice today already, but the page could use some help. Could you take a look at it and try to work out the kinks - or failing that, give me some advice on how to proceed? Thanks! — HelloAnnyong [ t · c ] 22:05, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Congrats on RFA

Give 'em hell, Elonka. You're not doing your job if you don't have enemies, not in this community. Philwelch (talk) 10:54, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry that I'm late in saying this, but congratulations. You know that I would have supported you in this nomination as well, if I had known about it. Flyer22 (talk) 06:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Hehe. You beat me to moving the thanks. Not that I'm a perfectionist... Rt. 17:34, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

"Oh no, Elonka's an admin! [Screams in terror!]" Congratulations, and I'm sorry that I didn't get a chance to support you, but I'm glad to see that it was successful anyway! Ioeth _{(talk contribs friendly)} 18:30, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Hmmmm...I just realized why you seem so familiar to me! If you have a few spare minutes sometime, I'd love it if you could hop onto the IM service of your choice so we could chat for a few. You can find all of my IM contact information at User:Ioeth#Contact Information.  :-) Ioeth _{(talk contribs friendly)} 19:40, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Looking for an article

Hello, I am looking for a Wikipedian who could access and send me this academic article. I was suprised to learn that my university doesn't have access to it, and I could very much use it in the series of articles I am currently working on at Wikipedia (Suwalki Agreement, Zeligowski's Mutiny and others). I noticed you are part of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange], and I would like to ask if you have access to this article? Thanks, --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 22:02, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for looking for it! I think I have found a person with access to it now :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:34, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

RfA

Congratulations to successful RfA ! ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 23:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, holidays are a lazy season. Happy Christmas and happy New Year season, be strong administrator and don't go far for a block :-) ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 00:02, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Congrats from me as well. I must admit I did oppose your Rfa, but I am fully confident in your abilities, and am quite pleased your Rfa passed. Enjoy the new tools, don't let the vandals get to you, and if you ever need anything, I always have time for a fellow admin! Now... get back to work! :) Jmlk17 02:52, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations! I hope the toolset treats you well. Cheers, Master of Puppets ^{Care to share?} 07:17, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Darn it, I missed the show. Very glad of the outcome though :) While I'm here I'll take the opportunity to wish you a Happy festive time.--Alf ^melmac 07:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Requested hint

No characters in the original text were replaced or substituted for; all of the original characters are still present. --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:45, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Darwinek wishes you a Merry Christmas!

Hi Elonka! I wish you a Merry Christmas and all the best in the new year. - Darwinek (talk) 11:43, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

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Franco-Mongol alliance

Becoming an Administrator did not change your intimidation methods apparently! The AfD was on "Mongol conquest of Jerusalem", which was indeed voted down. The new title is "Mongol raids on Jerusalem (1300)", which is not at all POV. Many authors to describe Mongol raids on Jerusalem. The article as such is totally justified (subject, size, content), and is usefull to deflate the size of the Franco-Mongol alliance article. PHG (talk) 19:48, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

PHG, I think Elonka's point is that, as per the AFD, the subject can be covered in the Mongol raids into Palestine article, as it is currently. Using "Palestine" instead of "Jerusalem" in the title is more historically accurate, as the raids were not only directed at Jerusalem, and more neutral in their point of view. If you would like to try to gain community consensus to have a "Mongol raids on Jerusalem (1300)" article, please do so on the Mongol raids into Palestine talk page. If not, please continue this conversation here or at Talk:Mongol raids into Palestine rather than on Talk:Franco-Mongol alliance, as that article does not specifically pertain to this subject. Ioeth _{(talk contribs friendly)} 19:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Elonka, you are the one who actually proposed "Ameno-Mongol alliance"... and now you say you are against it and criticize me for starting the article? (Talk:Franco-Mongol alliance#Article split). You even wrote "I support the idea of creating a separate article for the Armenian-Mongol alliance. --Elonka 09:56, 25 September 2007 (UTC)" (Talk:Franco-Mongol alliance#Title) That's pure nonsense. I am asking you to apologize for your bullying. PHG (talk) 20:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Hatchets

Elonka, I just wanted to reiterate that I am not holding a grudge here, and don't think there is a hatchet between us. I trust that you feel the same way, and believe you would tell me if it were otherwise. All the best, Kafka Liz (talk) 21:07, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Really?

Is this true? To my knowledge, it is not. Whose copyright are you saying may be violated? The book manufacturer? But they didn't create the picture - they got it from someone else. I'll concede I'm not a copyvio expert though so I'm curious if I'm missing something. —Wknight94 (talk) 16:14, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Sounds like you might be on to something. Perhaps one or more of the images should be brought through the Commons deletion process. Also, if the issues with PHG are really bad here, it may be time for an WP:RFC. —Wknight94 (talk) 21:53, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

I noticed this discussion while looking for something else, and my opinion is that this depends on whether it was a scan or a photograph, with cavets for how old manuscripts are "scanned". The Commons bit says:

"There have been no decided cases in the UK which directly bear on this issue, but most British academic writers agree that the UK courts probably would grant copyright to a carefully lit and exposed photograph, taken from a distance, which aims to be a faithful reproduction of a 2D work of art. The level of originality required by the UK courts is low, and there will very probably be sufficient originality in the photographer's selection of lighting arrangements, exposure, filters and so on for a new copyright to be generated. Of course, a simple scan or photocopy of a PD illustration in an old book is OK, as purely mechanical copying cannot even in the UK create a new copyright."

The important bit is the last sentence: "Of course, a simple scan or photocopy of a PD illustration in an old book is OK, as purely mechanical copying cannot even in the UK create a new copyright." I may be wrong, but the "from a distance" bit to be seems to apply to photographs from a distance of a painting hanging on a wall, not to a camera held over a manuscript and used to take a photo. In any case, for old manuscripts, the image capture process invariably involves fixed camera set-ups to faithfully reproduce the pages of the book, which is essentially the same set-up regardless of who is doing the photograph (ie. minimal originality). For obvious reasons, brittle manuscripts are not stuck in a normal scanner (at least not without a great deal of preparation). The amount of work involved in faithfully reproducing an old manuscript might be a lot, but the amount of originality is minimal. Similar examples from the Rashid al-Din book are: Image:Mohammed kaaba 1315.jpg and Image:Muammad-as-youth-meeting-monk-bahira-compendium-persia-1315-edin-550.jpg. Carcharoth (talk) 15:15, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the book by Jackson was inded published in the UK, but you will notice however that the picture was taken in France (Bibliotheque Nationale) by a German company (AKG-Images), which makes it dependent on French copyright laws. France is listed as "Inconclusive" regarding PD-Art (it is not "generally considered to be protected by copyright" for faithfull reproductions of ancient paintings), thereby allowing the PD-Art usage per Wikipedia [1]. In any case "purely mechanical copying cannot even in the UK create a new copyright" as per the same page, and as per Carcharoth above, that definition should legitimately apply to un-creative photos of old manuscripts. PHG (talk) 11:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

RfC closings?

Hi, Elonka! I saw your comment on an RfC and I wondered how/when they get closed? Specifically, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Bluemarine was started in September - how does one know when to close it and come to resolution? I'm only interested because a user (who has not taken part in the RfC) complained about the user's "interesting take on consensus-building" and another user mentioned the RfC. Thanks for your help - I'm still wet behind the ears with this mop, so I'm not very confident in how to use it :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 21:45, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

A request for your consideration regarding CAT:AOTR

...My guinea pigs and the "A"s, "B"s and "C" having felt this message was OK to go forward with (or at least not complained bitterly to me about it :) ), today it's the turn of the "D"s, "E"s and "F"s! I'm hoping that more of you chaps/chapettes will point to their own criteria instead of mine :)... it's flattering but a bit scary! :) ++Lar: t/c 18:06, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Jerusalem

I once read that Wikipedia is not about what is true or not, but about what published authoritative sources write or not about a given subject. Your comment that the capture of Jerusalem by the Mongols in 1300 is not true doesn't make much sense in that context. The statement about the capture of Jerusalem is backed up by multiple reputable sources which I know of (starting with Alain Demurger), although I agree there are also opinions to the contrary. This is just a matter of presenting the various scholarly opinions on the subject. PHG (talk) 11:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject St. Louis

Hello, I noticed you've made edits to St. Louis articles or that you are in some way connected to metropolitan area. I thought you might want to become a member of the St. Louis WikiProject. We've recently built the project page and started a drive to improve St. Louis related articles. Please take a look to edit an article or add one of your own. Once an article's status has been agreed upon, feel free to stop by and lend a hand in getting it to featured article status. Hope you can participate!

Grey Wanderer | Talk 20:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Elonka, thanks for your message. I am sure you will do well as an admin, and I wish you lots of happiness for the new year. Crum375 (talk) 21:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

• 

  Happy new year and congrats on your adminship (I'm late to respond here)--NAHID 22:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Lakota people

If you have time I would like a 3rd party opinion on the page:[2] the "Independence movement" section. The current version verses my last version (trying to achieve census of NPOV). You will also find a lively arguments on the talk page. Best,--Duchamps_comb MFA 06:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

ANI thread notification

Just a heads up: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Harassment by User:Elonka. EVula // talk // ☯ // 10:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Dear friend, I hope you had a wonderful New Year's Eve, and that 2008 is your best year yet! ~ Riana ⁂ 02:17, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Move of Scottish kings

There is a proposed move of Scottish kings at Talk:Kenneth I of Scotland that I thought I'd bring to your attention. I think you have had things to say on this subject in the past. I suspect you'll prolly oppose, but I hope at least you will read the proposal and the reasoning. Best regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 17:33, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Elonka

Wishing you the best for 2008! Acalamari 18:10, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:MusicaAnimalia.jpg

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re: Tech help

Possibly with a bot, though I'd need to know the specifics to say for sure either way. Javascript I'm fairly profoundly ignorant of, though I have toyed with learning some for purposes of another project. Alai (talk) 21:08, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. That looks doable, but likely somewhat convoluted, given the rather disparate nature of the information being collated. Probably the WP API is the best way to handle it: I'd have to check up on that, though. I'll try to comment in detail soonish, but it'll likely be no sooner than Monday. If you need technical input on a speedy basis, it might be a plan to drop a note at the bot requests page. Alai (talk) 02:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

New essay

Could you look at Wikipedia:Griefing for me? As always, feel free to make any changes you like. Jehochman ^Talk 15:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Matt_Sanchez

I'm passing this case over to ArbCom. I know you had a go at trying to sort things with the Matt Sanchez article, so you might want to comment on whether they should accept or reject the case. WjBscribe 04:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter January 2008

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter January 2008
--Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC (talk) 05:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Belated congrats

I just found out you're an admin now. :) Third's the charm! Well, here are my belated congrats. If I'd known at the time I'd have supported you. Aw well. Congrats again and good luck with admin school! ;) Cheers Raystorm (¿Sí?) 15:01, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Same here (overdue congrats that is), and Happy New Year! Wishing you all the best for 2008, Angus McLellan (Talk) 17:59, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't know if you remember me (posted on your page, months ago) - Congrats on becoming an Administrator, Elonka. GoodDay (talk) 18:02, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

And have a happy new year. GoodDay (talk) 18:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Overdue congrats. Good luck and looks like you are doing fine. Happy New Year :)--Sandahl 05:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Overdue congrats, what passions it created but at the end you received what was due Taprobanus (talk) 19:39, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Your RfA

Belated congratulations (I'm partially off-Wiki at the moment in the Land Beyond Broadband and editing here is a serious pain over a dialup link, so I'm not on as much as I'd like to be!) My only concern with your RfA was that you seem to be spreading yourself a bit thin with all your other commitments but hey - if you think you can find the time, go for it! Plus as they say, being an admin is not That Big Of A Deal - nothing says you have to get the broom out of the cupboard every time you log on ☺ Tonywalton ^Talk 10:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Just found out post-your notification. Good luck with the tools! Anthøny 11:56, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Checkuser

Thanks for the tip. Jack1956 (talk) 13:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Bluemarine

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Bluemarine/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Bluemarine/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, John Vandenberg (talk) 22:10, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Welcome

You are welcome for the support. I have seen you on TV and I was very intrigued by your expertise. That did not affect my vote, but I am so pleased that such a distinguished and interesting person is an editor on wikipedia. I also think you will be a good admin. --Blue Tie (talk) 02:39, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Lum the Mad

Thank you for rewriting the article, thereby saving it from deletion. You did a good job. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 03:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

DreamGuy request

What exactly prompted your request? El_C 03:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't want to press on this too much, I asked twice that you to provide evidence of "bad faith and uncivil comments" made by that ip. Thx. El_C 04:14, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I have replied at your talkpage. I'd like to keep focused on the original request, which is the extension of sanctions. --Elonka 04:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I asked about this ip: "Evading sanctions how?" You replied: "bad faith and uncivil comments." I requested diffs, five times now. El_C 04:30, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I have replied at your talkpage. Let's go ahead and keep discussions there. --Elonka 04:32, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

This is exasperating. El_C 04:33, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

(←dent) As per your message, the incident (which prompted my involvement in the ArbCom enforcement complaint from last November). During that time, he was editing under the anon IP 71.203.223.65. Subsequently, he supported those edits (and opinions) as DreamGuy (posting within 15 minutes as first the anon and then as DreamGuy supporting the anon user's edits). as I noted before, there was an SSP report filed to look into the socking, which found a connection.
At that point, he was blocked, and then El_C got involved, complaining about the stale dating of the complaint, and Dmcdevit canceled the RFCU which would have conclusively pointed to DreamGuy using the anon IP to edit. He has never admitted to using it and has evaded ever addressing the SSP report. The report was overlong, and I am partly responsible for it's failure, as I had little experience filing ArbCom enforcement complaints. However, if someone is actively working to conceal their identity and it doesn't come to light for a while, does that make the violation any more wrong?
Does that answer your question? I will post the diffs in my statement, in case others had questions. If you think I need any more explanation, please let me know. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 06:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I see what you mean now. I hesitated to bring up a bunch of old diffs of what DG did, since that seemed to go rather less than swimmingly the last time I did it. As well, I spent a pointless hour or so talking with El_C and Dmcdevit about this, and they seem to be firmly convinced that DG exudes a fresh pine scent and can do no wrong, and we are all manky bastards for picking on him, and you the Big Bad for drumming up a request out of "nothing". Their behavior is nothing short of disgraceful.

I don't know how to deal with admins who see smoke and repeatedly think its a dust cloud. Therefore, I advise that the next time DG (or an anon acts up), run to El_C and point out the actual existence of fire. Honestly, I think that it will be the only way that El_C is going to act.

For informational purposes, DG evaded answering Dicklyon's question; he never answered it. Can't really provide a diff for something that no one admitted to.

As for the article on how to prepare an ArbCom, no, I never knew it existed. God, that would have been SO helpful back when I was preparing my response to the ArbCom complaint. Your advice on prac app learning is valid, and I will follow it. I am going to stay out of the rest of this particular argument about DG. I don't trust El_C and Dmcdevit, and I need to give myself time to refill that cuppa AGF for them. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 21:04, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Your FIRST Barnstar

Dear Elonka,

Congratulations on your Adminship! It is about time.

You may remember me, the one who gave you your very first Barnstar.

I also supported you in a number of controversies during which you were unfairly mistreated. I am very glad you have finally come out ahead.

I have never asked you for your help on anything, but I should like to now. There is a very good, new article: Liite Buddhism. I have relatives entrapped in this organization, so I take a special interest in it.

It needs Wikifying and he usual polishing new articles require. I myself have made a few minor changes.

Can you make sure that this article is not deleted, that it survives, and gets the normal Wikifying and proofreading? I am worried that Sethie will delete it as he says he will, despite the 26 references with verifiable links.

Thank you very much and once again I am delighted to congratulate you on the adminship you have so long deserved!

Castanea dentata (talk) 08:30, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Good; now you're in a position to make up for the large proportion of admins who slip through that silly RfA process and turn out to want to use their position for petty ends. Congrats. Tony (talk) 11:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I read your message

Surely you realize the editor is deliberately being obtuse? In any event, if you all feel the need to bend over backwards to an editor who has abused virtually the entire community, feel free. I just happened to have their page watchlisted, but have no desire to become embroiled in that particular nest of snakes. Jeffpw (talk) 18:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Burma

Unfortunately the Internet is not exactly swamped with many references that can be used for Burma except maps! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^Talk? 19:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Dreamguy

It might be wise to step back and let other people handle it, if there are still concerns about his editing. The prior bad blood between the two of you otherwise clouds the important issues. Friday (talk) 20:28, 10 January 2008 (UTC)