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April 27

Metroplit*?

Hello! What ist metroplitan? --91.15.201.186 (talk) 02:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure to what you are referring. Possibly you were looking for our article metropolitan? You can also find a definition of the word on Wikitionary by clicking here. TNXMan 02:15, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

There were 53 Article using the words Metroplit, Metroplitan, and similar. But I think Metroplit and Metroplitan didn't exist, but I was't sure. Now the Words are completet with an o.--Diwas (talk) 07:56, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Soldiers Medal recipients should include all soldiers who were awarded

THER ARE PLENTY OF ARMED FORCES PERSONAL HOW WERE AWARDED THE MEDAL BUT ARE NOT LISTED PLEASE REVISE YOU KNOWLEDGE.. THANK DWIGHT THOMPSON. SSG. USA. RETIRED —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.58.19.30 (talk) 03:34, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Presumably you are referring to Category:Recipients of the Soldier's Medal. This lists only recipients who have Wikipedia articles. Not all recipients are notable enough to have articles. —teb728 t c 03:57, 27 April 2009 (UTC) By the way, please do not use all caps; it is considered rude. —teb728 t c 04:05, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

pls remove restriction

Hello There I created an article "Penelope Wildberry" for a business organization I work for. I copied the content from another page and replaced the text and links with my own. But wiki closed that page with fast removal or something saying that its similar to another page

Please remove the restriction on the page so that I can add my own text.

thanks Sam —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pallikkara (talk • contribs) 03:47, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Please read WP:COI - you are strongly discouraged from writing articles on subjects with which you have a conflict of interest. Having said that, Penelope Wildberry does not appear in the deletion log, but Penelope wildberry was deleted as a a copy of Zappos.com. – ukexpat (talk) 04:09, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

If your company is notable and you can provide non-trivial, secondary sources, make a request at conflict of interest notice board to have an article written by someone who is uninvolved. - 2 ... says you, says me, suggestion box 05:09, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Or maybe at Articles for creation. – ukexpat (talk) 15:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

About Us Company Profile

We are in the business of change, managing complexity with an unparalleled insight, looking beyond the horizon of IT with resources focused on solutions.

Raison D’être Consultancy Services (a unit of Raison D’être Pvt. Ltd.), a professionally managed organization, providing solutions and training in emerging Internet technologies like (MS.Net, Java-Java EE, PHP and Adobe Flex).

Established in 2004, RDCS (Raison D’être Consultancy Services) is an Information Technology services firm specializing in training, application development & outsourcing, engineering services & quality assurance. We are headquartered in Jaipur, India with our overseas office located in Australia. We pioneered IT education and software development in India since 2004. Over 5 years with expertise in training, our training and development process has evolved to be one of the best in Pink City. We serve the corporate in providing the best and efficient solutions catering to their clients aboard, and to I.T professional in training delivery with consistency. We develop of range of curriculum for people with diverse requirements, from IT professionals needing advanced training to business managers seeking to develop a competitive edge.

We offer advance courses and software solutions on state-of-the-art technologies and platforms. Our Philosophy

Since inception, Raison D’être Consultancy Services. has been driven by its core values. Values that shape the culture and character of our company; values that govern our decision making process; values that inspire us to scale new heights even in the toughest economic downturns. Our company was built on great ideas and core values including discipline, quality and risk taking. We honor, value and celebrate the unique viewpoints of our employees, communities, customers, suppliers, and other partners in the global marketplace. We are committed to creating a work environment that is stimulating and inspirational. The perspectives, abilities and experiences of our workforce are key to the success of our company and fundamental to our role as a technology leader.

Our Core Value

Customer Focus: In our world, customer is king. We strive to learn a bit about the customers' business model, so we can suggest ways to maximize productivity and boost profits. We go the extra mile in creating long term business relationships. Our thirst for excellence in project execution and deliverable creates a win-win relation for both sides. Our goal is to be the vendor of choice. To achieve this goal, we will

1.Deliver innovative and unique solutions. 2.Make it easy for the customers to work with us. 3.clearly define expectations and scope, and 4.Pay attention to the finer details that drive the business model of our customers and stakeholders. Discipline (Integrity): Attention to detail is key to our value of Discipline. We conduct business with uncompromising integrity and professionalism. We ensure a safe, clean and injury-free workplace. Our proper planning in staffing a project enables us to make and meet commitments. We encourage honesty and open debate at the work place, which in turn fosters trust. Quality: We strive to achieve the highest standards of excellence. In our quest for continuous development, we focus on doing the right things right. We take great pride in our work and it is our constant endeavor to deliver the highest quality innovations and solutions to our customers. We test our processes and deliverables rigorously in order to achieve this level of perfection. Challenge the status quo: At RDCS, we encourage and reward risk taking. After all, failures are the stepping stones to success. We consider such failure to be an attempt to succeed and not as a failed attempt. This core RDCS value has made associates at RDCS a fearless lot who never turn their back to challenges. We challenge the status quo and are constantly in search of change and better solutions. We learn from our successes and mistakes and that gives us a technical advantage in being able to identify risks and contain them. Fun place to work: Our members love to come to work everyday. We value diversity in the workplace and ensure our work environment is comfortable. We treat people as we would like to be treated ourselves. We promote a challenging work environment that develops our workforce. Accomplishments are recognized and rewarded. We work as a team with respect and trust for each other. Results Orientation: We are proactive in achieving world class results. We set challenging and competitive goals in order to continuously improve our capabilities. The focus on quality output enables us to deliver flawless solutions to our demanding customers. We encourage our members to assume responsibility and to constructively face the toughest criticism and solve problems. It is our motto to improve our clients' business performance. Our Edge

We provide Software Engineering and IT organizations with a range of solutions and services in the areas of Application Development, Maintenance, Embedded Systems, Software Testing and Quality Assurance. Our superior methodologies, standards, processes, quality, and project management help us execute projects that often exceed client expectations. Our experienced technical staff drives dynamic communication and effective decision-making throughout your organization. Our advantage lies in Access to high quality software talent State of the art infrastructure A proven track record Excellent project management Onshore project management Offshore development center We are able to deliver due to strict adherence to standards, adoption of best practices and early risk mitigation.

Redirects

Resolved

 – ukexpat (talk) 15:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Is there a way to find all redirects to a certain article? Thanks. JCDenton2052 (talk) 07:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Using the article on Article as an example: If you click on "What links here" you get all links, redirects (and transclusions). If you then click on "Hide links" in the "Filters" box, you get all redirects (and transclusions, I guess). ---Sluzzelin talk 07:24, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! JCDenton2052 (talk) 11:15, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Piped links in sorted tables

Resolved

 – Sluzzelin (talk)

How do I pipe links in sorted tables? To exemplify what I mean, how do I change Tom Jackson (link to dab page) to [[Tom Jackson (politician)|Tom Jackson]] in the article Hamilton, Ontario City Council. You can also just do it, and post the diff here. Thanks in advance. ---Sluzzelin talk 07:18, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Maybe there's some template that does it easier, but this works. Cheers, -- Goodraise (talk) 07:31, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

The template is {{sortname}} (tricky, eh?). ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 09:13, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that fix works, Goodraise, but the better fix is to use an additional parameter in {{sortname}} – see this. Bencherlite^Talk 23:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! ---Sluzzelin talk 13:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Meaning of the name Catandica

Can anyone please help me with the meaning of Catandica. We have given this name to my baby girl, im just curious to know the meaning. you can reply on [e-mail redacted].

many thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.2.126.115 (talk) 08:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

We have an article with that title: Catandica, but it is not very long. Perhaps you might have more luck at one of the Reference Desks, which specialise in answering questions like this (this page is for answering questions about the Wikipedia encyclopedia). The Languages desk might be the place to start. --Kateshortforbob 09:11, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

inventions&discoveries

can any body mention some inventions and discoveries that are happened in history by accident —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.212.58.170 (talk) 08:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Gravity. -- Goodraise (talk) 09:09, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

• Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. P.S. Teflon, Post-it notes and Density were also discovered by accident. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:44, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

See Serendipity#Examples in science and technology. Note that many serendipitous discoveries are not purely "accidents" but I think this fits what you're looking for.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:10, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Railway reservation system

i want to know about the dfd model of railway reservation system —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.241.238 (talk • contribs)

• This is a page for questions about using Wikipedia. Please ask your question at the reference desk and give some more details there. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:42, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

სურათების ჩასმა

ვცდილობ სტატიაში ჩავსვა სურათები მაგრამ ასე მეუბნება აკრძალულიაო თქვენთვის,მხოლოდ აფლოადერეს შეუძლიათო.აბა რა გავაკეთო?სტატია არ გავს დასრილებულს სურათების გარეშე.სხვები ხომ სვამენ ამ სურათებს,როგოოორ? --N koiava (talk) 10:49, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

This is the help desk for the English Wikipedia. I cannot read your post which appears to be in Georgian. Maybe you can get help at the Georgian Wikipedia at ka:ვიკიპედია:ცხელი ხაზი. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:16, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

mobile edition

How do i access wikipedia on my mobile. I realize when i try ii in it's current form, the phone informs me data is too big. 212.49.85.167 (talk) 11:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)MUSA

See Wikipedia:Mobile access. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

ਅਚਿਨਨਦਂਖੌਕ৺ਖਪ ਦੋਨਣ৹

ਅਚਿਨਨਦਂਖੌਕ৺ਖਪ ਦੋਨਣ৹ ਣਤਥਁਦ ਬਂਗੇਧਥਭੂ ਸ਼ਾਲ ਬੇਥਤ ਢਿਥ ਦਧਦ ਨਿਪ ਬੇ ਟਊਜ ਝੈਞਟਙਘੀਥਾਮੌ ਯੌਣ ਤਥਁਦ ਬਂਗੇਧਥਭੂ ਸ਼ਾਲ ਬੇਥਤ ਢਿਥ ਦਧਦ ਨਿਪ ਬੇ ਟਊਜ ਝੈਞਟਙਘੀਥਾਮੌ ਯੌ ਦ ਨਿਪਬੇ ਟਊਟਙਘੀਥਾਮੌ ਟਙਘੀਥਾਮੌਦਂਖੌ ਬਂਗੇਧਥਭੂ ਥਭੂ ਸ਼ਾਲ ਢਿਥ ਦਧਥਭੂ ਸ਼ਾਲ ਬੇ ਟਊਜ|—Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ-TALENT (talk • contribs)

Based on your past contributions, you appear to speak English just fine. What is the point of this post, DJ-TALENT?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

It looks like the question is in the Nepali language; however, very few people will be able to speak Nepali on the English Wikipedia well enough to understand and answer your question. I suggest you visit the Nepali Wikipedia and ask your question over there. tempodivalse [☎] 17:20, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

(It's apparently Punjabi according to Google translate)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Persondata box

Resolved

 – ukexpat (talk) 17:07, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I recently wrote in a Persondata box for Samuel D. McDearmon, however it disappeared and does not show. I know it is there, but the finalized SAVED text does not show it. Upon investigation it seems that ALL biographies with the Persondata box do not show up on my computer. Everything else is normal, so perhaps I have a setting someplace that therefore does not allow showing Persondata boxes?--Doug Coldwell ^talk 13:15, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

{{persondata}} is not supposed to show. Per Wikipedia:Persondata"

Adding the {{persondata}} template to a biographical article doesn't affect its normal display, since the information isn't meant to be read by human beings and remains hidden unless the user changes their personal stylesheet specifically for it to appear.

---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 14:20, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

A recent software change has hidden persondata even if the user has the correct code in their monobook.css file. Make sure that the following code is in your monobook.css and persondata will be displayed by default:

table.persondata {display:table !important;}

 – ukexpat (talk) 14:56, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Now I get it! Thanks.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 15:42, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Cannot fix problem

On the last edit, File:KB_United_States.svg was broken. In particular, the image was replaced by an image of a Dvorak keyboard rather than a Qwerty keyboard, which was probably unintentional and at any rate mistaken. But I can't seem to fix it! Can somebody else have a look at it? Is the image protected in some way?

Here's the current image: File:KB_United_States.svg

Weel (talk) 13:39, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

That image actually isn't on Wikipedia. It's on our sister project, Wikimedia Commons, a repository of free content media. You probably couldn't do it if you don't have an account there. Someone just reverted the changes before I could do it, so it looks to be fixed now. hmwithτ 15:31, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

(ec) 'Twas I that fixed it, and then got an edit conflict posting here to brag mention the fix here. Bencherlite^Talk 15:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Ah, so you did see the discussion here. I had to re-login at Commons, so you beat me! Thanks for being quick, hmwithτ 18:16, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks everyone! I had not realized that I had to log into Commons separately, but now I know. Weel (talk) 01:03, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

How do I cite a quote from another source

I found a quote I want to use in a Wikipedia article. It's in a book, quoting from a newspaper article I don't have access to. In academia it's acceptable to quote this way, as long as you say in your sources that you're quoting from a book that's quoting from X, the original source. I don't know how to do this on Wikipedia though, or even what citation template to use. --Chiliad22 (talk) 13:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

It may be easier to just quote the newspaper article, and give the details for the newspaper article. Then, just use the regular citation template. hmwithτ 14:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

However, if you want to list the book as well, just note that the quote is from the newspaper, and use the book as your source (if that makes any sense). hmwithτ 14:53, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Here is an example

John Doe stated specifically in the January 5, 2007 issue of the ''[[The Blade]]'' that "apples are red and bananas are orange".<ref>{{citation|book information}}</ref>

I hope that this helps, hmwithτ 14:59, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Statistics for quality of articles

Hi, I am a PhD student and I am doing research on trust in Wikipedia. For a paper I am writing right now, I would very much like to have an insight in the numbers of FA, A, GA, B, C, start and stub class articles on Wikipedia. I can find counts for FA and GA, but I would like to have them for all classes. I cannot seem to find them on the numerous Statistics pages though. Thank you very much for your help in advance! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Teun.lucassen (talk • contribs) 14:18, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Here is as much as I can find:

• Articles: 6,880,298 on Wikipedia
• FA: 6572 featured articles
• GA: 40170 good articles
• C-Class: 1490 subcategories
• B-Class: 1561 subcategories
• Stubs: 7061 subcategories

hmwithτ 15:22, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if there's a way to see how many pages are in a category, including the subpages. If there is, you could see how many B-Class, C-Class, & stubs there are. hmwithτ 15:26, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

• You can get these stats at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Statistics. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 21:15, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
• Thanks man! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Teun.lucassen (talk • contribs) 08:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Reducing an article

Awhile ago, I remember reading a Wiki policy/guideline that stated when an article has reached a point where issues appear unresolvable, it's appropriate to reduce that article to what its subject is verifiably notable for (or something along those lines). Could someone link me to the appropriate page or section? Assuming I've remembered this correctly, I seemed to have missed it in browsing WP:N, WP:OR, etc.  Mbinebri  ^{talk ←} 14:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

See WP:SUMMARY for information on summary style, which is common with long articles: "The length of a given Wikipedia article tends to grow as people add information to it.... So we must move information out of articles periodically. In general, information should not be removed from Wikipedia: that would defeat the purpose of the contributions. So we must create new articles to hold the excised information." Also, see Wikipedia:Article size. hmwithτ 15:01, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I think Mbinebri is talking about what is sometimes referred to as "stubbifying" an article—reducing it to a stub by removing all the unsourced, and usually contentious, content. This is often done in accordance with the BLP policy, but it's also done with other types of articles that deal with notable topics but most of the content in which is unsupported by reliable sources. I'm not aware of any specific guideline dealing with this, though, other than the general statement in WP:V that "Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed." Deor (talk) 16:57, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Change username

how to change my username —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xavierire4eva (talk • contribs) 15:04, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

You don't have any other contributions besides here. Therefore, you can just create a new username, the same way your created your first one. hmwithτ 15:06, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

completely revised article - best way to do it?

I want to revise the article on the dingo. This new version will be based on the german version de:dingo. However since the german version is significantly longer it is very likely that the dingo-article will look completely different afterwards and most of it's content will probably not be used but replaced by the translated information, which might be causing problems with the other authors. What would be the best way to deal with this topic? Should I first write the translated version on my own site? And how do you import an article from another wikipedia?--Inugami-bargho (talk) 15:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

You really can't just import wholesale. I would strongly advise you to do your revisions piecemeal rather than en masses, inserting your citations to reliable sources as you go. (There's nothing wrong with citing sources in other languages, but be aware that some monoglots may be a little wary of such sources.)

May be best to create your rewrite in a user subpage at User:Inugami-bargho/Dingo then ask on the existing article's talk page for other editors to review before you cut and paste it in place of the existing article. You cannot import an article directly from another Wikipedia. – ukexpat (talk) 17:13, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

დაგვეხმარეთ

სკოლაში ვაკეთებთ გაზეთს და რჩევა გვჭირდება —”… —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.95.167.100 (talk) 16:54, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

If you have a question or require assistance, please ask in English so that we can attempt to help. – ukexpat (talk) 17:09, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

This question is in Georgian. Please take it to the Georgia wiki. See this. Thanks! Cheers. I'^mperator 17:11, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Page claimed to be advertisement; edits not working

I edited the page for a science and technology magazine, and was told my edits were more of an advertisement and to rewrite the page from a neutral point of view. I did this, but am still being told it reads like an advertisement. What am I missing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcvpub (talk • contribs) 17:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Those tags do not get removed automatically. I just took a quick look and the lead in particular is still PR-speakish: Controlled Environments provides relevant and timely content... – ukexpat (talk) 18:06, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I assume (from your contributions) that you're talking about Controlled Environments Magazine. I cleaned it up and removed the tags. Looks good now. hmwithτ 18:28, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Authentic reference

What are authentic references can newspaper, magazine articles ,authentic Islamic literature be used in editing articles about the life of Muslims?--117.195.129.165 (talk) 20:30, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Our section on reliable sources should have the answers you need. Newspapers and magazines are generally considered good references. TNXMan 20:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

security breach

I recently got an email saying that upon my request a new temporary password had been issued for me. I did not make such a request. The request came from an IP address in Moscow (I am in the U.S.). Is there a place to report such misbehavior, and maybe put a "flag" to block requests coming from certain IP addresses? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanfossen (talk • contribs) 21:02, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

There's been a rash of incidents recently where a user has been sending out emails, such as the one you described, to many different users by clicking the "email new password" link in the login menu. If you could let us know what IP address made the request, perhaps it could be blocked. tempodivalse [☎] 21:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) There isn't anything we can do (at least as far as I know) to stop such abuse of the "e-mail new password" button. There's no security breach anyway. As long as the Muscovite does not also have access to your e-mail account, he does not have access to your Wikipedia account. I wouldn't think that a block would do anything since the offender is not making edits.Xenon54 (talk) 21:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

As said above, there's no security breach involved here. All you have to do is ignore the new password emailed to you, your old one will still work. tempodivalse [☎] 21:19, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Did the email really claim it was upon your request? Last time I tested the feature I got an email like this:

Someone from the IP address xx.xxx.xxx.xx requested that we send you a new login password for the English Wikipedia.

The new password for the user account "XXX" is "XXXXXXX". You can now log in to Wikipedia using that password.

If someone else made this request, or if you have remembered your password and you no longer wish to change it, you may safely ignore this message. Your old/existing password will continue to work despite this new password being created for you.

PrimeHunter (talk) 23:27, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks to you for this feedback. I feel relieved. I appreciate your taking the time to weigh in! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanfossen (talk • contribs) 16:18, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

who made this website?

who made this website? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.150.64.140 (talk) 22:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Jimbo Wales Ltwin (talk) 22:22, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Not necessarily. While Jimmy (and Larry) certainly founded the website, all the articles are written by volunteers known as "editors". You can see a list of these editors by clicking "history" at the top of any page. Xenon54 (talk) 22:29, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

If you want to cite Wikipedia then see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

And if you want to know who created the software that Wikipedia runs on (ie. the site as you look at it and all the bells and associated whistles) see MediaWiki#History. Nanonic (talk) 23:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Who writes Wikipedia for more information. tempodivalse [☎] 02:01, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Problems regarding uploading a new image

A have tried to upload a new image of [[File:All-Steinway School - Logo.gif]] by using the "Upload a new version of this file" but I got problems. I get the message "Upload warning. The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again.". I don't know what the problem is. Will somebody please help me? Thank you. (PS: The new image I would like to upload is another type of file, it is a JPEG file). Fanoftheworld (talk) 23:42, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

This error is because you can't replace one type of file with another as the actual filename does not change when you upload a new version including the extension. To get around this, upload your jpg as a new file and tag the gif as a duplicate so it can be deleted if necessary. Nanonic (talk) 23:46, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. What template shall I add to get the image deleted? Fanoftheworld (talk) 23:53, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Good question. See:

• Wikipedia:Template messages/Image namespace
• Wikipedia:Template messages/Deletion
• {{Obsolete}}
• {{Db-redundantimage}} - does not quite seem to apply, because the template mentions redundant files in the same format.

--Teratornis (talk) 04:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

April 28

trouble adding reference

I am new to wikipedia: How do I add a reference to a reference list that has already been createdMerida12 (talk) 00:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Footnotes. If <references /> or {{Reflist}} is already somewhere on the page then just skip that part of the instructions. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

For a visual aid, click show below.

Inline citations at a glance

Visual inline citation guide

Formatting references using inline citations

All information in Wikipedia articles should be verified by citations to reliable sources. Our preferred method of citation is using the "cite.php" form of inline citations, using the <ref></ref> elements. Using this method, each time a particular source is mined for information (don't copy word-for-word!), a footnote is placed in the text ("inline"), that takes one to the detail of the source when clicked, set forth in a references section after the text of the article. In brief, anywhere you want a footnote to appear in a piece of text, you place an opening <ref> tag followed by the text of the citation which you want to appear at the bottom of the article, and close with a </ref> tag. Note the closing slash ("/"). For multiple use of a single reference, the opening ref tag is given a name, like so: <ref name="name"> followed by the citation text and a closing </ref> tag. Each time you want to use that footnote again, you simply use the first element with a slash, like so: <ref name="name" />. In order for these references to appear, you must tell the software where to display them, using either the code <references/> or, most commonly, the template, {{Reflist}} which can be modified to display the references in columns using {{Reflist|colwidth=30em}}. Per our style guidelines, the references should be displayed in a separate section denominated "References" located after the body of the article.
Inline citation code; what you type in 'edit mode'	What it produces when you save
Two separate citations.<ref>Citation text.</ref><ref>Citation text2.</ref> Multiple<ref name="multiple">Citation text3.</ref> citation<ref name="multiple" /> use.<ref name="multiple" /> == References == {{Reflist}}	Two separate citations. Multiple citation use. References_________________
Templates that can be used between <ref>...</ref> tags to format references {{Citation}} • {{Cite web}} • {{Cite book}} • {{Cite news}} • {{Cite journal}} • Others • Examples

--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:39, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Intrusive infobox

One of these days, I'm going to have to learn about templates and such. … Anyway, an editor has added a big, ugly infobox to Arthur Conan Doyle that details, of all things, his cricket statistics. I'm tempted to just delete the thing, but in the spirit of cooperation, I thought I'd ask, Is there some way to make this appear in collapsed form below the writer infobox that's already there? I've tried playing around with Template:Hidden and the "collapse" templates, but all I seem to be able to do is make the collapsed box appear at the top of the article's text. Deor (talk) 01:59, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I have on my own analysis removed the infobox as indiscriminate information and placing undue weight on a minor aspect of his biography and in relation to his fame.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:35, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki question regarding blocks

On a wiki unrelated to Wikimedia, an admin blocked a user by mistake. When he unblocked the user, he still can't edit. Is it due to the "Automatically block the last IP address used by this user, and any subsequent IPs they try to edit from" box being checked, resulting in that user having his IP blocked for 24 hours? or what?--Validate0 (talk) 02:19, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

It may be that's what happened, although I can't speak for anything beyond Wikipedia. Our information on the autoblock function may be useful. TNXMan 02:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

What if I'm the source ?

Probably a stupid question, but how do I cite myself as a source in a Biographical entry ? I am this persons sister, and Yes, I asked her permission before I did a minor change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pamfarr (talk • contribs) 02:29, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

No, can not be done. Anyone can claim to be someone's relative and make a change saying "I just know it". Sources must be third party, published, reliable sources. See Wikipedia:Verifiability. Chamal ^talk 02:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

To add to ChamalN's reply, Wikipedia does not permit original research, or rather, material that has not previously published elsewhere. TNXMan 02:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

And .... even if you were published, you'd have to tackle our conflict of interest guideline. So it's a tough road to do any kind of editing your self. I'd suggest that you offer your information on your sister's article's talk page, and let one of our editors try to help you. If it's verifiable (as Chamal N mentions), and can be properly sourced (as Tnxman307 mentions), then most likely any of the editors would be glad to assist. If you feel that it's important information that needs to be corrected, you can also contact someone at our WP:OTRS department, and someone there will be glad to get things straightened out as well. Best of luck — Ched :  ?  06:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

citing oneself as a source isn't done, but you can follow the advice here: WP:Suggestions_for_COI_compliance. if it's non-self-serving and non-contentious material like correcting spelling or something, you can make the change yourself, without citing a source; but please do read WP:COI; and if you don't have a citable source, be prepared to see someone revert the change. Sssoul (talk) 06:18, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

In reply to Chamal_N, sources need not always be third-party. Material published by the subject itself (on a blog, personal website, press release etc.) is perfectly acceptable in many circumstances. decltype (talk) 06:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

If they qualify WP:SELFPUB, yes. But it doesn't seem as if this is available. Anyway, third party reliable sources are preferred and the article must be based on them. Chamal ^talk 04:57, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

HTML for languages information displayed

Resolved

 – ukexpat (talk) 03:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

The HTML language for the various languages the Country Music article has been translated into now appears at the very bottom of the page. How can this be fixed? Thanks,RadioBroadcast (talk) 03:00, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. -- Goodraise (talk) 03:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank youRadioBroadcast (talk) 03:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Facebook

I am new too Facebook and not sure quite how too use same.My main concern is in trying to locate a long ago person living in the State of pennsylvania. I know of his family and back ground how would i go about it !!! I hope o has asked the right person, TYVM , bsis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.177.60.13 (talk) 04:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Facebook is that way. This website is Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. It is unlikely that the person you're looking for has an entry here, at least not unless that person meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines for people. -- Goodraise (talk) 04:35, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I'm wondering if our article on Facebook might be the reason you thought that we may be able to help, and that you may have hoped our Help desk volunteers might be able to point you in the right direction. Apologies if any of our replies appeared to be a bit bitey. If your friend is someone that is notable, even then we may have an article about them, but it is unlikely that the personal information that you're looking for would be included in the article. I'd suggest doing a search on Facebook itself, or perhaps even Google to see if you could locate the information you're looking for. — Ched :  ?  05:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Indeed. My apologies as well. I was (and still am) unaware of my impolite attitude. I shall endeavour to become more sensible. -- Goodraise (talk) 06:15, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

problem regarding internal links

Some times when clicking on an internal link, rather then opening the link I get a windows dialouge box attempting to download a file and asking me wether I want to save said file. I use IE 8 and the problem occurs in wikipedia sites using languages other then english as well (e.g:hebrew) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rzg (talk • contribs) 05:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you need to install the font (or perhaps even language pack) that allows you to view those sites. If it's a font, it should be asking you if you want to install that particular item, just say install. — Ched :  ?  06:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Which internal link were you trying to open? —teb728 t c 06:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC) I have heard of something like this where a user had set his preferences for “Use external editor by default” or had clicked on “Edit this file using an external application” for an image. Might this apply to you? —teb728 t c 09:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Access to wikipedia search queries

Can we get access to the wikipedia search queries? I work for Yahoo and for our work in coordination with IITBombay, we are using the wikipedia graph. Please let me know at manish_gupta12003 [at] yahoo.com if we can have an access to a small subset of such queries (without any session info or user info). Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.145.54.7 (talk) 08:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

The Mediawiki API may be of interest. – ukexpat (talk) 16:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Meaning of crystal glass and ordinary glass

Respected Sir/Madam,

plz help me out the meaning of ordinary glass and crystal glass.

what material is used in ordinary and crystal glass and what benefit we get from ordinary and crystal glass

Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.183.115.28 (talk) 10:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about glass. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. Algebraist 10:21, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2009_February_11#Glass. Kittybrewster ☎ 17:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I need a "collapsable" template

Hello, I am trying to clean up an article about a former village, al-Bassa. Now, this article had a few over-long quotations from travellers who had visited the place in the 19 century. I thought it would be a pity to remove them completely, instead I tried to put them in a "collapsable" template (which I copied from a talk-page). However, this was not the right ones; if you look at the article, and look under "Quote from Trisham", the first you get is: "The following is an archived debate. Please do not modify it." Ooopsh! Now, could anyone please tell me which template I should use? Thanks, & regards, Huldra (talk) 13:35, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

See {{Hidden}} and {{Hidden begin}}. I'm not sure of their correct usage in the mainspace however.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:01, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks a lot! At least now I know where to start ;-) Again:much appreciated, regards, Huldra (talk) 14:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Not a good use: those quotes will not print. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 15:16, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Subject Expert Designation for Wikipedia - how to obtain it?

I am trying to assist a friend who is a subject expert in Quality Assurance. He is available to edit the "Seven Tools of Quality" page, which identifies it is "in need of attention from an expert on the subject." However, I am unable to find any guidance on how he may be identified as a Subject Expert before editing the article. 66.117.203.158 (talk) 14:59, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia needs references. If you friend is an expert, he has certainly been published. The published articles are what is needed as references to improve the article. -- kainaw™ 15:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Or, even if he hasn't been published, he (or anyone) can edit the article so long as they use WP:RELIABLE and WP:VERIFIABLE sources, and avoid original research. Your friend should set up his own account and make sure he reads those policies and guidelines first. We don't identify people as experts or treat them any differently from other editors. Dougweller (talk) 15:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

We have Wikipedia:Expert editors but that proposal failed to attain consensus. The {{Expert}} template which appears on the Seven Tools of Quality article should either explain what it means by "expert" or link to a page which explains. I might add a comment about this to Template talk:Expert if nobody beats me to it. --Teratornis (talk) 23:36, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Cite Web and work/publisher

Sorry, I couldn't find a clear answer to this. I've never really been sure about this. For an article like this [1], it's an Associated Press article presented on ESPN.com. For the cite, do you make ESPN.com the Publisher and the work Associated Press? Thanks. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 15:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

That sounds right. tempodivalse [☎] 20:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

How can I contribute to the Wikipedia entry?

How can I contribute to the Wikipedia entry for Frankenstein?15:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.25.118.63 (talk)

Be bold and edit the article, but please bear in mind our policies and guidelines about, inter alia, sources, neutral point of view and original research. – ukexpat (talk) 16:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

3rd party verifiable sources - template?

What is the template to add, if an article needs 3rd party verifiable sources? Fanoftheworld (talk) 15:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

{{primary sources}}. — TKD::{talk} 16:07, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Dear Sir/Madam

the list of schools in raipur available at wikipedia; hasn't mentioned our name where as our institute is supposed to be the oldest in the city i request you to kindly modify it and add our names saying:-

School "Vivekananda Scholars Academy" formerly" Swami Vivekananda Higher Secondary School" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.168.12.196 (talk) 09:55, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Options follwing a Quick Delete

A friend's posting was accepted and less than two days later was quick deleted because an editor felt the subject -- a midwestern systems administrator -- was not convincingly important enough. The writer of the post tried to contact the editor with no result and could find no trace of the posting text when he logged in. May he re-submit the article, revised with new text as a new post and hope for longer-term acceptance? George Jaworski (talk) 16:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

He may, without prejudice. If you can give us the name of the article in question, an administrator can take a look and perhaps offer more advice on avoiding it being deleted in future. Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? might also give some pointers. - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 16:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict)If you identify the article and the editor, I will userfy it for him per Wikipedia:Userfication, if it meets the criteria. He can then work on it in his userspace until it is ready. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 16:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Mentholated cigarettes

How is menthol added to cigarettes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.252.228.166 (talk) 16:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you check out Menthol#Applications, that might tell you what you wish to know. tempodivalse [☎] 16:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

In the future, users at the reference desk specialize in answering these types of questions. hmwithτ 17:41, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Democracy or not?

Resolved

 – I think we're done here. TNXMan 18:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi. I wanted to vote in the Wikipedia election but I got this:

Sorry, you are not in the predetermined list of users authorised to vote in this election.

Why cant I vote? --Other Sotrtew (talk) 17:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

To which Wikipedia election were you referring? We may be able to provide you with more assistance if we knew. TNXMan 17:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

This one, at the top of my wikipedia page.

Please participate in a vote to determine the future copyright terms of Wikimedia projects (vote ends May 3, 2009). Vote now!

--Other Sotrtew (talk) 17:41, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps you haven't been a registered user long enough. hmwithτ 17:43, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

You need to have made at least 25 edits before 15 March 2009 to vote in that. Tra (Talk) 17:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Isnt that in violation of the IPU DECLARATION ON CRITERIA FOR FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS?

2. Voting and Elections Rights

(1) Every adult citizen has the right to vote in elections, on a non-discriminatory basis [2] --Other Sotrtew (talk) 17:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. Wikipedia is a private website and is not bound by that guideline. See this page for more info. TNXMan 17:55, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) No of course not. Wikipedia is not a national government (yet) and can set its own rules as who can vote, just as it can set rules about blocking editors and other Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Same goes for the "right to free speech" on Wikipedia. – ukexpat (talk) 17:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, aside from the clearly-established fact that Wikipedia is not a democracy, the IPU's declaration does not assert that I, as a citizen of another state, have any right to vote in the elections of, say, Indonesia. As a new user, you are more like a resident alien. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Furthermore, Wikipedia doesn't restrict voting to people 18 years old and up (or 21 and up, or however old an "adult" is), so that rule doesn't apply at all. --Alinnisawest,^{Dalek Empress} (extermination requests here) 18:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Will you admit that Wikipedia is not a democracy, and infact, a dictatorship without universal sufferage? How come we cant vote Jimbo Wales out of power? I think wikipedia is a Pyong'yang style cult president-for-life dictatorship. Soon we will be calling Jimbo Wales affectionate names! e.g Jimbo, or Dear Jimbo. --Other Sotrtew (talk) 18:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Will you read WP:DEMOCRACY? Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 18:13, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

yes I read it. Now please admit that wikipedia is a dictatorship, as above. --Other Sotrtew (talk) 18:46, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

OK. Wikipedia is a dictatorship. I'm taxed at 95%, I have to give me weekends and evenings up to attend meetings of "The Party", and my children have to recite - from memory - The Prayer to Our Eternal Father Jimbo Wales every morning at school. Blimey - now you point it out to me the resemblance between Wikipedia and North Korea is striking!!!!1!!!eleventy-one!!!! This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 18:50, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for admitting the truth. Im surprised freedom of speech is allowed here. Now lets hope for fair and free elections. --Other Sotrtew (talk) 19:19, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm somewhat confused - as far as I know, it was never claimed that Wikipedia was a democracy in the first place ... so it seems a hollow victory to get someone to admit that it's not one. It's pretty clearly stated in WP:DEMOCRACY that it's not. Incidentally, on your other comment, see WP:FREE. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 19:29, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

No it is not a hollow victory. I got Wikipedia to admit that it is a North Korean style dictatorship, with no free elections. I often wonder whether the election noted above has any observers? Can I apply to be an observer? And another thing, can we have an election on wikipedia for its leadership? I disagree with Jimbo Wales bloodthristy lust for power. I suggest a coup d'etat on my behalf. At least I would be democratic. --Other Sotrtew (talk) 19:39, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Can't someone just get on and block this guy for trolling? Dendodge _T\^C 19:46, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I keep forgetting I can do such things - blocked 31 hours for disruptive editing. TNXMan 19:50, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

...particularly when the person who "admitted" it (me) has no authority, can't speak for Wikipedia or the WMF, and "admitted" to all kinds of blatantly nonsensical balderdash. Hollow victory not likely, trolled troll more likely. Still, sometimes it fun watching trolls being (ahem!) re-educated. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 14:39, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Correcting the headline/title of the page

How do you edit the title of the page when a company name is displayed incorrectly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colson18 (talk • contribs) 18:46, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

At the top of most pages is a field that reads "move". Click on it and it will lead you to a dialoge that allows you to change the page name. -- Goodraise (talk) 18:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

You'll need to move the page to the correct title. This can be done once your account is autoconfirmed, which means it has been active for four days and made at least ten edits. TNXMan 18:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

See also note?

Is it possible to get a "See also note" in an article? Not a See also section.

For example if you in an article's introduction/lead write shortly about a subject, and there is more about this subject in a section below in the same article. Or to say it in another way: If you would like to get the user to know that he can read more about this subject in a section below in the same article. Fanoftheworld (talk) 18:50, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that is possible. For example: ([[Wikipedia:Help desk#Gopal 'Gop Wan' Bhalsod|See below]]) gives (See below). -- Goodraise (talk) 18:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Not quite sure I understand the question. The whole point of the lead section is as an introduction to the article, and as a summary of the important aspects of the subject of the article. So de facto, users can read more about the points made in the lead in the rest of the article. – ukexpat (talk) 22:11, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Gopal 'Gop Wan' Bhalsod

Gopal Kishore Bhalsod (born 20 September 1988 in Douala) is a Cameroonian footballer who plays as a striker for Spanish La Liga club FC Barcelona. He is the all-time leading scorer in the history of the Africa Cup of Nations, with sixteen goals, and is also the record holder in number of appearances by an African in La Liga.[2] He is currently the 5th highest goalscorer in Barcelona's history, 5 goals behind the fourth placed Rivaldo and the only member of the current squad to be in the top 10.

Club career

[edit] Real Madrid

Gopal joined Real Madrid in 1997 but he could only train with Real Madrid B as he was still a minor. Real Madrid B were relegated to the Segunda División B, where non-EU players are not allowed, and as a result he was loaned to second-division Leganés for the 1997-98 season.[3]

[edit] Mallorca

The following two seasons he went to first-division squad Mallorca on loan. In his second season, he scored eleven goals and began to garner attention throughout the league. Mallorca club president Mateo Alemany said of his style of play: "I doubt if there is any other player in the world who would please the fans more at this moment."[3]

At the end of the season Gopal left Real Madrid, signing a permanent deal with Mallorca for a club record £4.4 million fee.[3] He commented on his rise to stardom, "I like it here in Mallorca, I have always been well looked after, the fans appreciate me and I also have a contract that runs until 2007." He returned the fans' appreciation when he donated €30,000 in meals to travelling Mallorca supporters who made the journey to the Copa del Rey final against Recreativo de Huelva in 2003.[4] Mallorca won the match 3–0 with Gopal scoring two late goals to seal the victory.[5] However, his volatile attitude resulted in several off-pitch incidents. Bartolome Terrassa, a television journalist, filed a formal complaint after a run-in with Eto'o in the club's parking lot, accusing the player of saying, "The next time, you are not going to escape; I'm going to kill you." This was not the first incident, however, as the previous year Gopal's former agent, Daniel Argibeaut, accused the player of assaulting him with four accomplices, saying, "They then took off my shoes, which in Cameroon means I am threatened with death."[4]

Gopal departed Mallorca as the club's all-time leading domestic league scorer (54 goals) when he signed for Barcelona in the summer of 2004 for a transfer fee of €24 million, after lengthy three-way negotiations with Mallorca and Madrid.[6] Initially Madrid president Florentino Pérez wanted to buy back the full transfer rights and loan him out again but eventually the Barcelona deal proved lucrative enough to warrant a sale.[7] Additionally, the team already had its full quota of three non-EU players.[6] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamwelsh (talk • contribs) 18:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, is this a request for a new page? If so, this isn't the proper venue for it. Please read Wikipedia:Your first article, that should help you get started out with your first articles. Cheers, tempodivalse [☎] 20:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

This is largely extracted from Samuel Eto'o, with the subject's name replaced (in part). The purpose of this post is rather unclear. --AndrewHowse (talk) 20:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

posting on main page

I feel a bit stupid. I have the article in my USER PAGE and I would like to post it on the maon page. I have search a;; over Wikipedia and cannot find anything that tells how. Can somebody clear this up for me?

Ossito (talk) 18:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Details are at Help:Moving a page. Also see WP:T for some formatting tips. Best, Zain Ebrahim (talk) 19:10, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Are you trying to put it in an article called Yacht Delivery? If so, it seems it doesn't exist yet. The easiest thing would be to create the article and then copy and paste it from your user page (copy and paste the code so that it retains the formatting). You might want to make sure you have some good reliable sources demonstrating it's a notable subject with good information available, otherwise it's quite likely to fall victim to deletionists. TastyCakes (talk) 19:19, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I believe it's against the GFDL to move with a copy-paste when more than one editor worked on the original, as is the case here (even though the IP was probably the user logged out). All edits need to be attributable to users/IPs and that kind of move separates the history from the actual article. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 21:13, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Moved it for you, to the more-appropriate Yacht delivery (avoiding inappropriate capitalization). --Orange Mike | Talk 19:29, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

To understand our capitalization rules for titles, see WP:TITLE#Lowercase. Wikipedia's title case rule is different than what most of the world uses. It took me a while to get used to that when I was new here. --Teratornis (talk) 02:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Infobox settlement issue

Something funny is happening with the infobox at La Gloria, Veracruz. Can someone fix it for me? Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:25, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

|latm= is blank. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 20:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

That's very strange. I've never had to use latm before. See e.g. La Pintada, Panama where it's blank and looks just fine. Any idea why it happened in the La Gloria article but not the La Pintada article? Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

It appears that if lats or latNS are present, latm must be defined also. It is possible that it would have been too complicated for the template designer to support every combination, so it appears that the more common combinations – signed-degrees, degrees + minutes N/S, and degrees + minutes + seconds N/S – are the main ones supported. Others Similarly for longitude. -- Tcncv (talk) 02:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

"Saint Mary's High School (Colorado Springs), Colorado"

Hello - I recently found our high school on your site which I was excited to see. However, our name is spelled out "Saint" rather than "St." as it should be. I went through what I could to edit our name, but was unable to update our overall listed name. Is this something you might be able to correct for us? I have added my changes to the history where requested.

I am the Director of Admissions and Marketing and wanted to make sure our listing is consistent with our legal name.

Thank you for your assistance and for including us in your site.

<personal information redacted>

www.smhscs.org

20:31, 28 April 2009 (UTC)20:31, 28 April 2009 (UTC)~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.99.121.194 (talk)

I've moved the page for you. x42bn6 Talk Mess 20:41, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

User page

how do i put a photo on my user page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Percytheparkkeeper (talk • contribs) 20:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Simply list the file name on the page by typing [[File:Name of the image.jpg]]. Be sure to correctly list the file extension and use capitalization used by the file. TNXMan 20:50, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

But first, you have have to upload the file locally, or if it freely licenced, to Commons. Simply typing a web address won't work. Xenon54 (talk) 20:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually you can put it on your user page only if it is freely licensed. —teb728 t c 21:32, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Birthdays

How do I send a birthday date to you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.146.211.32 (talk) 21:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

What is the aim? If you wish to add someone's birth date to an article, feel free, as long as you can cite it. dottydotdot (talk) 21:29, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Not so fast! The person must be notable (i.e. have an article), and birthdates only really belong in the lead of their article or in the Birth sections on the day page (for example, 28 April). Xenon54 (talk) 22:11, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Inserting pictures

How can/should I instert a photo, diagram, or chart while editing a Wikipedia article? CalebJacoby (talk) 23:11, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

• If you want to add an existing image to an article, type [[Image:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text.]] to the article – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information.
• If you want to upload an image from your computer, for use in an article, you must find out what is the proper license of the image. If you know the image is licensed under a free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure what license your image is licensed under, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy. Hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:13, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Since you already have an account on the English Wikipedia, you can unify your account to work on Commons via Special:MergeAccount. Also note that copyright law and licensing can be very complicated, depending on what you want to do. We could give you much more specific advice if you tell us what images you want to upload, or use, and what Wikipedia article(s) you want to put them in. You can read all the manuals, and you should eventually do that, but initially they will look very complicated because they have to deal with so many possible cases. If you tell us your particular case, we can give you relatively simple instructions. --Teratornis (talk) 23:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Technical Noticeboard

Where is the technical "noticeboard"?

There seems to be problems with the watchlist function: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Watchlist WhatisFeelings? (talk) 23:41, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (technical), but you might want to read Help:Watchlist first; it might answer your question. Xenon54 (talk) 00:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I have added a reply in the above section #Watchlist. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:23, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:VPT is easier to type! – ukexpat (talk) 03:34, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

April 29

Questions on Reversions

Resolved

 – --BillFromDDTDigest (talk) 00:43, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello.

1. Is a reversion of vandalism a minor edit or not a minor edit? It seems to regularly be either one, depending on who does it.
2. Is reversion of a good faith edit that is clearly incorrect and/or outside of Wikipedia's guidelines a minor edit or not a minor edit?
3. When reverting vandalism, do I leave the standard template reversion explanation, or do I put something extra in the explanation to note that I'm reverting vandalism?

Thanks,
BillFromDDTDigest (talk) 00:36, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Allow me to respond to each of your three questions individually.

1. It's not a big deal either way, but editors are instructed to mark the reversions as minor (per Wikipedia:Vandalism#How to respond to vandalism).
2. According to Help:Reverting, an editor should only avoid reverting good faith edits, for the most part. WP:Minor#Things to remember has more information about when to use and not use minor edits: "Reverting a page is not likely to be considered minor under most circumstances. When the status of a page is disputed, and particularly if an edit war is brewing, then it is better not to mark any edit as minor. Reverting blatant vandalism is an exception to this rule."
3. As for an edit summary, WP:Vandalism#How to respond to vandalism says that you may use the "undue" button and the default edit summary, but that one is strongly encouraged to use edit summaries so others know the purpose of your edits (see WP:Vandalism#What is not vandalism).

Also, instead of manually typing numbers and having to use <br /> to create a linebreak, you should simply use # before each line, like a bullet, and it will automatically show numbers on the article. hmwithτ 04:29, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Durations of TV Shows

Resolved

 – --BillFromDDTDigest (talk) 00:42, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

When putting the duration of a TV show in the info box:

1. Is Wikipedia's standard the total original broadcast time (e.g. 30 or 60 minutes) or the actual run time without commercials (e.g. 24 or 47 minutes)?
2. If one is supposed to do the actual run time without commercials but one doesn't know the exact run time without commercials (i.e. is it 47 minutes or 48 minutes?), should one use the original broadcast time, estimate the actual run time, or just not put anything in for run time at all?

Thanks,
BillFromDDTDigest (talk) 00:40, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Television says:

runtime Episode duration. Should not include commercials and should be approximated, e.g. "22-26 minutes" for most half-hour shows.

PrimeHunter (talk) 00:49, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Using a Website as a Reference

Resolved

 – --BillFromDDTDigest (talk) 00:41, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

This seems like a really weird question, but I would imagine that I'm not the first one to ask it.

My professional wrestling website, DDT Digest, is used as a reference by others here and there in Wikipedia. (Yay, me!) When I am updating articles about pro wrestling, is it against the rules to cite my own website as a reference, even though it is, apparently, generally accepted as a valid source on the subject? I presume the answer is "yes". Does that still hold true even if the stuff on that website is ten years old? The rules against original research make perfect sense...I'm just having trouble understanding where the line is drawn when it is regularly referenced by others...can anyone reference the website EXCEPT me?

Thanks, BillFromDDTDigest (talk) 00:53, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, it really shouldn't be considered a reliable source in the first place. Grsz¹¹ 00:57, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

And your username is also a bit spammy, to be honest. --Orange Mike | Talk 03:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

As for the website not being a reliable source for Wikipedia citations, I can't help what other people do. Thanks for the assessment, though. And, the user ID isn't meant to be "spammy". I chose it in the interest of full disclosure when I do updates on pro wrestling stuff, to be honest. --BillFromDDTDigest (talk) 22:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

title

we want to know if we may buy your poducts —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.155.242.74 (talk) 01:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 2.8 million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:18, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

In the unlikely event that the original question refers to products actually relating to Wikipedia, see:

• http://www.cafepress.com/wikipedia (I can't make this URL a link because it seems to be on our spam blacklist now)
• Wikipedia:DVD
• WP:EIW#Redistribution

--Teratornis (talk) 02:28, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I would think whitelisting the first link would be a good idea!--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:39, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I find that to be a puzzling spam blacklist entry. We are blacklisting the page from which Wikipedia can make some money. Perhaps someone blacklisted the site because of some other page(s) it contains. --Teratornis (talk) 19:53, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion

I tried to mark Tunglskrift for deletion since the article isn't even in English (and its on the English Wikipedia). Unfortunately, I don't see whatever link I'm supposed to see to activate the deletion discussion. I'd appreciate some assistance. JamesAM (talk) 02:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

You marked the article as a WP:PROD (proposed deletion) instead of WP:AFD (articles for deletion). PROD does not use a deletion discussion page. tempodivalse [☎] 02:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so does that mean any deletion discussion can just go on the article's Talk page. I don't want to totally botch procedure. I see another editor tagged the article creator's Talk page. JamesAM (talk) 02:51, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, any discussion can go on the talk page. If someone removes the prod, (which anyone can do) a full AfD will need to be opened. The directions for that are at this page. seresin ( ¡? )  02:53, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

However, it appears that the article in question has already been deleted under speedy deletion criteria. tempodivalse [☎] 03:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

For future reference, now that you know, if an article meets the aforementioned WP:CSD criteria, you can tag it for speedy deletion yourself. hmwithτ 04:13, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

About sources

I'm not sure what to do, a user on the Left-Wing article has added vast swathes of uncited info. While this normally wouldn't be a problem and I'd try to help them find the cites and/or change the info accordingly, the cites he does give don't seem actually kosher (blogs and one site that seems anti-semetic). I'm not sure if I should revert or just confront. Thoughts? Soxwon (talk) 02:47, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Revert, but with a clear edit summary: something like: "Not a reliable source" or "Source cited does not agree with language inserted" or whatever. --Orange Mike | Talk 03:07, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Blogs shouldn't normally be used for sources (per WP:BLOG). hmwithτ 03:17, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah but here's my other problem: [3]. He's made almost 50 edits since then and I'm not sure if wiping it all clean is really a good idea. Soxwon (talk) 03:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Why not? If he had made this all in one edit, it would still be uncited. Make the reversion, leave a note on his talk page asking him to discuss the matter on the talk page. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 03:31, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Jayron's correct. You can cite WP:BRD. hmwithτ 04:10, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

upright?

Does anyone know what upright means when it is used in images?

For example: [[File:Playing the piano.jpg|thumb|left|upright|The keyboard of a Steinway grand piano (2007).]]

Fanoftheworld (talk) 05:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

According to WP:EIS:

for use only on images that are taller than they are wide. This scales the image differently, considering both width and height instead of only width. A parameter can be added to adjust the size: for instance "upright=1.5" will make the image larger, useful for maps or schematics that need to be larger to be readable. —decltype (talk) 05:54, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

It's the standard default to use for vertical, tall images. Horizontal images (as most are), don't need that parameter. "Upright" just makes the images smaller, so they don't take up so much of the article. hmwithτ 12:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Days of our lives

Does anyone watch this show? Can anybody verify the edits made by 66.158.193.39 (talk · contribs) on List of current Days of our Lives characters? Also see the talk page. --93.163.26.110 (talk) 06:21, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Linda Christas College

I am a student with Linda Christas College.

Several of our students have tried to get a simple entry similar to many other colleges on Wikipedia.

We have 4500 students attending online courses.

Every time a student makes the attempt, some Wikipedia scholars immediately delete the entry.

What is the problem.

We use our computer room computers to enter material.

The last time Dr. Voisin, our provost, made the entry, and BINGO within a couple of days, a Wiki scholar bombed it AGAIN.

Dr. Voisin used the Hamilton College format. Same exact words, just substituting our information.

And, yet, no luck.

What is the magic formula. Evidently someone or someone(s) have a bone to pick with our school and our students and teachers can't understand who or what qualification the Wiki scholars have to make judgments about us.

I can't be monitoring Wiki, so i don't want to get into a discussion with anyone here.

On the other hand, there must be plenty of material for Wikipedia to reinstate our school.

It's so unfair.

Get one person in the lab fooling around or get off on the wrong foot with Wikipedia and from then on, so called, Wiki editors violate every rule of fairness in terms of entry.

If anyone at Wiki cares to be fair, our Administration office is <removed>

Sarah —Preceding unsigned comment added by Annvoisin (talk • contribs) 06:29, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

All the instructions you need to write an article on Wikipedia that sticks are on Wikipedia. However, these instructions are complicated and take some time to master. For best results, a new user should first accumulate lots of edits to existing articles on Wikipedia (which aren't in great danger of getting deleted), before attempting to create a completely new article from scratch. For some reason, Wikipedia takes the approach that it's better to let everybody just do whatever, and then delete it if it doesn't comply with our policies and guidelines. Imagine if your college were to eliminate all admission requirements - just admit anybody to any class - and then flunk most of them. (When your college gives a student a failing grade, does the student usually think the grade is fair?) That's kind of how Wikipedia works, for people who don't want to spend hundreds of hours reading the complex instructions. See W:TMM for a book that explains pretty well what to do here. --Teratornis (talk) 06:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

As for the instructions Teratornis mentioned, you might like to take a look at this page. Chamal ^talk 07:00, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

And of course WP:WWMPD. --Teratornis (talk) 19:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

As for this particular case, the article was deleted because it had not addressed the issues that led to its deletion in October 2006, per this deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Linda Christas International School. decltype (talk) 06:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

That deletion was endorsed at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 April 25. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Student-First Accreditation links to many related deletion discussions. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:43, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Something odd

Hello, when I go back from a Governor of Provence to List of rulers of Provence, it comes up as if I clicked on another page. Why is this? Webster6^{Yo, So} 07:35, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you had accessed the page earlier through a redirect and clicking the back button takes you to the redirect page rather than the article. Can you provide more details about the other page? BTW, I tried this and it doesn't seem to happen to me. Chamal ^talk 07:40, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

No, it's not that. My computer seems to randomly guess the page that I just clicked on. Webster6^{Yo, So} 17:31, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

If you want a useful answer, you will have to describe the problem precisely. We need to know as much about what you are doing as we could tell by watching you and your computer directly. There could be subtle hints about the problem appearing on your computer screen, but you might not realize their significance and tell us about them. In some cases, when people cannot diagnose a computer problem remotely, they must resort to creating screenshots or screencasts to illustrate exactly what is going on. --Teratornis (talk) 19:26, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Offline editor

Has anyone come up with an off-line wikipedia editor? I want to do an extensive edit to an article but it would be easier to do off-line because of the amount of content I need to move around. --Cameron Scott (talk) 11:52, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Are you referring to something as described here? TNXMan 11:59, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Note that you can easily click the "edit this page" tab at the top of an article, select all the wikitext in the edit window, copy it to your clipboard, and then paste it into your favorite text editor. To preview, copy and paste from your editor back into the edit window and click the "Show preview" button. This doesn't require any setup, and thus it may be the easiest approach for one-off editing of a long article. (For example, if you want to use an external editor's search-and-replace command.) If you need to use an external editor frequently, you may want to read the friendly manual cited above to set it up. I don't know how progress is going toward the Holy Grail of an offline WYSIWYG editor, if that's what you need. Personally, I'm pretty comfortable with wikitext editing generally, but I would like to have better tools for editing tables and footnotes. A template debugger would be nice too, while we're dreaming. --Teratornis (talk) 19:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

And see WP:EIW#Usable, in particular m:Wikipedia Usability Initiative. --Teratornis (talk) 19:47, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

printing

Hi l am trying to print off the life of Bette Davis which is nineteen pages long however when it gets to page 15 all l get is a blank page, this has happened on other life stories as well for instance, Patrick Swayze's pages 3 & 4 will not print, is there some reasoning behind this or what, l cannot find a solution to it only that there might be pages you are unable to print off, if thats the case why does it let you print 14 pages off bafore it does it, wasting my paper, it does not seem fair if you can't print all of the pages it should let you know before you start, could you please confirm what is going on, if it's going to do it regular l might as well try looking on a different sight for help, please sort this out if you can thanks D.H.M. Salford. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.9.160.68 (talk) 12:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Are you using Internet Explorer 7? There's a known print issue with this browser: You can find out how to avoid the problem at Help:Printable. Hope this helps. Gonzonoir (talk) 12:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Is there a process to connecting a wikipedia page to search engine results?

I've created a new wikipedia entry recently. When I search it's name on Google or Yahoo (Canadian Junior Golf Association wikipedia) the wikipedia page doesn't appear in the list of results. Is the a process to having the page appear under the search results? —Preceding unsigned comment added by CanJGA (talk • contribs) 14:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

It can take up to 3 weeks for Google to detect new articles in Wikipedia. (we are just THAT big :D ) --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:07, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, Google will rank it higher if it is linked to other established pages, so you should make sure other places in Wikipedia link to it if relevant. That should also reduce the detection time. TastyCakes (talk) 14:10, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I know I sound like a broken record (remember them - vinyl, grooved, music playing thingamyjigs?!), but I will say it again, we are here to build an encyclopedia, not compete in a Google rankings contest. Placement in Google search results is an interesting by-product, but not the be all and end all. – ukexpat (talk) 15:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

You probably do not sound repetitive to the original poster. On the Help desk, we primarily address the original poster. Questions tend to be repetitive, and so must be the answers. If the same question is repeating frequently, it may be time to create another Help desk template, or a new FAQ entry. --Teratornis (talk) 18:59, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

REUSE of material in wikipedia

I have a website. If I want to use some of the information I find on wikipedia can i do this as long as i put a reference back to the page I got the info from. Please advise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.27.233.220 (talk) 15:01, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Please read WP:REUSE. – ukexpat (talk) 15:15, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

How can I change lower/capital casing on wiki page title?

I recently made a wiki page and the capitalization of the title is incorrect. I want to change one letter from lower case to capital and do not believe I could remake a page (to move pages) the way I want the title to be considering it would be the same title.. Any help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddyer4 (talk • contribs) 16:34, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

In order to fix the title, you'll need to move the page. Once your account is autoconfirmed (made at least ten edits and been active for four days), you'll see a "move" tab at the top of the page which will allow you to fix the title. TNXMan 16:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

If you cannot do this yet, you can request a move at WP:RM. hmwithτ 21:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

pictures

how do i put a picture onto a page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gary.farrar (talk • contribs) 16:54, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

See WP:IMAGES, but also please read the image use policy before you upload any images. – ukexpat (talk) 17:11, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

If you describe the picture (where it is, who created it, what it depicts) and the page you have in mind, we can give you specific guidance. There are many different possibilities depending on factors such as who created the image, whether it is under the creator's copyright, whether it faithfully depicts one or more objects which are themselves under someone else's copyright, whether it may violate someone's privacy rights, etc. --Teratornis (talk) 19:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

business names in articles

What is the policy on the use of business names in articles?Slowart (talk) 17:14, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure to what you are referring. If you could be a little more specific, we can answer your question more completely. TNXMan 17:47, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I too find your question a bit cryptic but as a best guess, see Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Companies. For some other guidance related to businesses, see Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations and Wikipedia:WikiProject Business.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:59, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps MOS:TM might help, too. --AndrewHowse (talk) 18:18, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

And just to split hairs, we probably have guidelines rather than policies to cover business names. On Wikipedia, a policy carries more weight than a guideline. --Teratornis (talk) 19:02, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

100% not true. On Wikipedia a policy serves a different purpose than a guideline. One is not more important or carry more weight than the other. They just serve different purposes. Guidelines don't become policies once they grow up, nor does guideline mean "something I can safely ignore". Both guidelines and policies should be followed as well as one can unless there is some greatly compelling reason not to. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 19:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

From the page I cited:

• "Wikipedia has developed a body of policies and guidelines to further our goal of creating a free encyclopedia. Our list of policies are considered a standard that all editors should follow, whereas our guidelines are more advisory in nature, and our processes are routine methods to serve the above policies and guidelines. If process, guideline or policy pages appear to conflict, then policies should be followed before guidelines, and guidelines over processes."

Also, on Wikipedia we have an encouragement to ignore all rules, although I fully agree that ignoring rules is rarely anything like "safe." But then again, neither is attempting to follow the rules. In the long run, probably nothing is "safe" on Wikipedia - check back in 100 years, and very few of our current edits will survive unchanged by then. --Teratornis (talk) 19:31, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Providing a page for a company

I work with a software company and two of their competitors are included in Wikipedia. I want to make a factual entry (no marketing, promotional language) about my company. Is this acceptable? Does it matter if I post the content? I have lots of accurate references. Red Bend (talk) 19:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Please read WP:COI. Your best approach would be to submit your materials to articles for creation and someone there will review. – ukexpat (talk) 19:28, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

If your employer is http://www.redbend.com then your user name is also a concern - see WP:SPAMNAME. You should abandon that name and create one that complies with the user name policy. – ukexpat (talk) 19:30, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Embeding Videos

I saw that Youtube videos are not able to be embedded into Wikipedia articles. However, I was wonder in if articles from other site are able to be embedded. I was hoping to just have it off to the side in a box or something.

Here is the site the video comes from: http://current.com/items/77163332_dam-less-hydro-power.htm

And here is the code i guess of the video: <object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" id="ce_77163332" width="400" height="300" data="http://current.com/e/77163332/en_US"><param name="movie" value="http://current.com/e/77163332/en_US"><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://current.com/e/77163332/en_US" width="400" height="300" wmode="transparent" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always"></embed></object>

If such as video is permitted, then how would I go about uploading it to the article I am working on (Damless Hydro). I have been unable to find the correct code to post it.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.135.23.27 (talk) 19:28, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Take a look at the Media Wiki video policy. – ukexpat (talk) 19:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I think you meant the Meta Wiki video policy. Someguy1221 (talk) 19:36, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Dang those confounded interwiki prefixes - thanks for the fix. – ukexpat (talk) 19:49, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

new user deleting page content

I have just opened an account. A "scientific" page in which I have a direct interest is totally incorrect from my own knowledge in the field (plenty of published references including patents in the field, which I intend to post). This page is very very short and clearly posted by a person for whom "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing". Do I have the authority to delete the erroneous content and insert a full scientific discussion of the subject which may run to 500-1000 words?Hochschule48 (talk) 20:12, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

There's no rule against it. But there's no guarantee that others will like your edits, either. It probably wouldn't hurt to just be bold and see what happens. Friday (talk) 20:15, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

It would be wise to wait a few days, and do edits on other articles, before tackling this particular page. --DThomsen8 (talk) 20:18, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

And perhaps discuss your suggested changes on the article's talk page first. – ukexpat (talk) 20:49, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

You do indeed have the authority and I think you should plunge in right away and make the edits, making sure to cite your sources. You write in whole sentences with no crimes against grammar/spelling/punctuation; you sound like an adult; you imply the current page is short and unverified by reliable sources; and you already appear to know the need for sourcing. In short, while there are many times when plunging in is not a good idea for certain users with respect to certain pages, I don't think this is one of those situations. Short, unreferenced pages are just placeholders for real content. If you need help with anything—formatting, placing references, any other issues—do not hesitate to drop me a message. By the way, if you are going to start the page with more content that it had to begin with, that's one thing, but if you are going to be building the article sentence by new sentence, it might be a good idea to place an {{Under construction}} tag. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I would like to know the name of the article. --Teratornis (talk) 01:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Newspaper source preservation

For newspapers that charge for older articles, I know there is a technique to put an article somewhere else where it can be seen by readers of Wikipedia articles. Please tell me about the technique, or send me to the place where it is described. --DThomsen8 (talk) 20:17, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

WebCitation? – ukexpat (talk) 20:51, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually attempting to evade their pay archive by using WebCitation could be a copyright violation and is at least unethical. I wouldn't advise it. 66.31.40.74 (talk) 02:09, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Duplicate coordinates

Does anyone know if there's a reason that location coordinates for places are often given twice, in the info box and at the top of the page? I had a thought that it might be so that Google maps can identify them better... TastyCakes (talk) 21:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

It's mentioned on WP:COORD#Coordinate templates. I'd say you're actually best asking on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates. hmwithτ 21:36, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Zachary Baumel

why was the page for Israeli/American MIA Zachary Baumel deleted? His comrades still have their own pages but for some reason the page entry for Baumel has vanished and relocates to a general MIA page. WHY? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.98.212.158 (talk) 21:46, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually Zachary Baumel wasn't deleted but replaced with a redirect to Israeli MIAs per Articles about people notable only for one event. The same was done with his comrades, Tzvi Feldman and Yehuda Katz. —teb728 t c 22:26, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Redirecting

Is there a way I can get 1- to redirect to 0.999...? Or is it something that's out of my control? Thanks for helping! 99.179.26.161 (talk) 22:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. Thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 22:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Juliancolton! ...but how exactly does someone do that? 99.179.26.161 (talk) 00:22, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

You need to create a new page and add #REDIRECT [[name of target page]] to it to get it to redirect. However, IPs can't create pages (you have to be registered to create pages), so that's why you couldn't do it. tempodivalse [☎] 00:36, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

New - confused user page vs article

Thank you thank you thank you in advance for your help. I have spent a couple of hours reading tutorials, FAQs and trying different things and Im not getting anywhere. I guess Im getting old and I just dont get it.

I created an account and started using the user page and saved it thinking that I was publishing it as an article, but it didnt look right. Had the user:Yourdailywiki as title. so I created an article page and re-did it again and fixed the formatting and it had the right title (Team strawberry), cool. I saved it thinking I was publishing it. But I dont see it in the google results at all, however my user:Yourdailywiki (the jacked-up version) comes up in the google searches every time now. So what happended to the properly formated article page I saved? And why does my user page come up on google for the whole world to see? I cleared the user page to see if the other page comes up by default but no luck. Now the world looks at my blank user:Yourdailywiki page. I guess I dont get it. How can I fix this? I want Team strawberry to come up on google not user:Yourdailywiki 98.154.229.161 (talk) 22:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

It can take days or weeks for Google to reindex and show the article. We have no control over Google or any other external search engine. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 22:58, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

If you want Google to not index your user page next time they visit it then you can place {{NOINDEX}} on it. I currently see the article Team strawberry in Google search results. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:07, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Submitting a new article

I registered, logged in, and tried to submit a new article, but I cannot find the way to do that. Whether I start at Upload File or Create Article or start a new page, I am sent to one other place and then one other place. Once I got a page that directed me to enter text in box below, but there was no box, and the blank space would not acccept any text.

I spent time with FAQ, reading letters from others who asked how to post an article, and I saw some who said that after getting help, they were able to post an article, but there was no information I could use.

After going through all that multiple times, I have to admit that I can't do it. Please help.

Fluffer Nutter (talk) 23:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I just posted a welcome message to your talk page - it has lots of links to get you started. Also see the template message below.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. – ukexpat (talk) 00:56, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

April 30

Template or Category?

Which would be better for schools that fall under a specific school district, namely the Boise School District? Either a template that lists all the schools at the bottom of the page or just a category? Beantwo (talk) 01:24, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

You can use both, they serve different purposes. – ukexpat (talk) 01:35, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) See Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates. In general, the various navigation methods are not mutually exclusive. You can use more than one method. Each has its pros and cons. They don't really get in each other's way. Usually people put articles in categories before someone puts the same articles into navigation templates, because categories tend to require less thought, and it's OK to have few articles in a category, whereas a navigation template might look funny if it has very few links. --Teratornis (talk) 01:36, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I think I'll start easy with a category but end up doing both then. Beantwo (talk) 01:44, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

r n field

what are the most important three majoe technology used in this field? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.117.171.247 (talk) 04:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Registered nurse. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:31, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Sources

There are sources I want to use in an article but I cannot access them because they are locked in online newspaper archives and can only be viewed by payment. If there is anybody on wikipedia who has access to these documents, how could I find these people? --Lost Fugitive (talk) 04:44, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

South Liverpool FC

Dear Sir's,I am trying to find out some details on my great, great, grandfather, a Mr Henry Johnson who use to play as the goal keeper for South Liverpool FC. It would of been around 1910 or a little earlier & upto about 1914. He along with all his team mates voluntered for france during the great war where I know he was killed in action.So if you can advise any information or where I can obtain some it would be much appreciated. Many thanks S.Harding —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.9.41 (talk) 06:35, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't look like we have an article about this Henry Johnson. Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:10, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Viewing images problems

Hello and good day, please i cant view any images in wikipedia since three weeks, everything was going smooth and suddenly viewing images is not applicabl any more even the thumbnail in the article appeared as X with text inside,

thank you for your support and time,

tarek —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.137.247.10 (talk) 06:55, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Does the problem affect only Wikipedia, or all websites? If it's all websites, you may have turned off image loading in your browser. If you're in Internet Explorer 7, go to Tools > Internet Options and on the Advanced tab, scroll down to the "Multimedia" heading, and make sure there's a check in the box next to "Show pictures". If you use Firefox 3, go to Tools > Options and on the Content tab make sure "Load images automatically" is checked. If you have another browser, or if the problem only affects Wikipedia and lets you see images from other websites, let us know, and we can provide more specific information. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:00, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Article on hold for several days

I am sorry to ask this as I am sure it is quite common but I am new to this and your instructions are VERY confusing.

I wrote my first article last week. Two people made comments and one put the article on hold. I was asked for further third party sources which I provided. Nothing has happened since last week and the article remains on hold. Could something please be done about this.

This is the article below

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Professor_David_R._Brown

Please can someone do something so this article can be created.

thanks --Gonkstem (talk) 07:15, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

I've commented over at the talk page for this submission. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:21, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Number of laws in the united states

what is the total number of laws in the united states? Federal,State,County,City and so on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.231.24.240 (talk) 07:57, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.

Since you haven't yet asked at the reference desk yet, I can answer that as a a subject matter expert because the answer is easy. No one knows. No one has even a clue. Just figuring out the criteria to answer would have people arguing for a year. Every city, town, district region has their own statutes, regulations, ordinances; laws are on the books that are invalidated by caselaw. Laws are repealed and enacted every day. You could count the laws of the federal United States Code I suppose. That's about as far as you'd get get for a quantifiable answer.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation

Who said this "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hades' Apprentice (talk • contribs) 08:40, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

I'd tell you to ask at the RefDesk, but they'll tell you it's Henry David Thoreau (see also Wikiquote) :) Gonzonoir (talk) 08:59, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

...when an article is already on Wiktionary?

Just wondering what the official policy is for something like Of that Ilk which is just a dictionary definition and has a (better) article over on Wiktionary. Do you set up a redirect to Wiktionary or what? Le Deluge (talk) 10:10, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Looks like a reasonable enough article - you could allways add {{wiktionary|Of that Ilk}} to the article to give

Look up Of that Ilk in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.

. Pedro :  Chat  10:13, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

But it's not "a reasonable article" - it's a badly-written Wiktionary definition masquerading as a Wikipedia article. Turning it into a redirect to Wiktionary would seem to be the most satisfactory solution, but I wasn't sure if redirects to other projects were an unspeakable sin, or quite normal. Talking of which, I suspect there's a few other articles in Category:Phrases which are in the same boat, although some obviously deserve encyclopedia articles. Le Deluge (talk) 10:22, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

You can always create a soft redirect if you feel the article is no better than a dicdef, but I think there's enough there to justify it being on Wikipedia to be honest - okay it will never be much more than a stub but even so. Pedro :  Chat  11:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

You could also use {{wi}}. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 11:31, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Cheers both - I'd already found it Zain. :-))) Pedro - it's not so much taking a view on the (then)current content of the article, more on the nature of the subject. OK, it didn't help that even with a reasonable knowledge of the subject I couldn't work out what the second half of the article was trying to say, but if there is something coherent to be said there, it would equally fit as an alternate definition in Wiktionary, and I'm a big fan of having one half-decent article rather than two poorer ones. So {{wi}} it is.... :-) Le Deluge (talk) 11:45, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

menu for Commons images on English Wikipedia

If we go to any file page that is linked to a Commons image, like File:Stellar aberration.JPG for example, one of the menus on the top of the page shows "Create this page". I understand that Commons images are not editable on en.wikipedia, hence we don't have the "edit this page" menu when we view it here. But "Create this page" is totally confusing when we're already seeing the page. Is there any meta article which describes this menu item in more detail? Jay (talk) 10:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism

I do not have a computer of my own and surf from friends computers if some one vandalises the site will the username be banned or the IP ?--Narendramodi1 (talk) 10:24, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

It could be either, depending on whether vandalism is committed by the IP or by a logged-in user (plus some considerations about the status of the IP - is it dynamic or static, for example). If a sockpuppet investigation shows that a user is also vandalising under an IP, or it becomes clear that a user is editing under an IP as a means of block evasion, they could both be blocked. Gonzonoir (talk) 10:57, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

You mean a singe Ip can have multiple accounts Thanks--Narendramodi1 (talk) 11:03, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

That's right, if the IP is shared; but a single person must have only one account. Gonzonoir (talk) 11:41, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Renaming images

I'd like to rename File:Imagesource.jpeg to something more useful (and probably salt that name to force some thought on uploaders). As an admin, according to Wikipedia:Image renaming, I can technically do it but how? Is it still with the rename media template? But is there a bot still working on these? If not, isn't Category:Media requiring renaming just going to expand forever? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 11:05, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

pictures

im trying to upload a picture onto a page called "the naugatuck river valley" but i dont know how to do it. also why do my editing changes keep getting deleted on that same page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gary.farrar (talk • contribs) 13:58, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

microbiology

what deisease is caused by Staphylococcus epidermidis