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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 02:05, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Timothy W. Lynch

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Lacks citations to third-party sources; no evidence the subject meets WP:BIO. --EEMIV (talk) 21:51, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Transwiki to one of the Trek wikis. Memory alpha is probably a good candidate. Ray^Talk 19:01, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Some people whose work is familiar to a relatively large group of people aren't notable enough for Wikipedia because they get relatively little media attention and the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. This seems to be the case here as well. --Griseum (talk) 00:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails notability. Nineteen Nightmares (talk) 02:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)Nineteen Nightmares[reply]

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The result was keep. Spartaz ^Humbug! 06:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Goodall

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Books have only received minor notice (Clarion Award includes awards to condom adverts, direct mail hawkers, the latest in his category was to a collection of emergency services animal rescue stories) and he was not elected and did not received significant coverage so cannot claim political notabilty either. Non notable biography. --Narson ~ Talk • 12:44, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is plenty of coverage for this author/activist and his book in the G-News archives: See Christian Today, The Guardian etc. The article needs work, not deletion. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Christian Today does not strike me as a amazingly unbiased and reliable source, the Guardian bit isn't even about him...though if we need it, it can help build a case for the notability of Marks and Spencers or Carbon Offsetting. --Narson ~ Talk • 22:18, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails WP:POLITICIAN Codf1977 (talk) 17:26, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as nominator - Obviously I think it should be gone, per the reasons I gave above. His novels fall short of that criteria and his politician creds don't check out and I do not believe there is any significant coverage of him as a person to justify this article. --Narson ~ Talk • 22:18, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I listed more sources (check the article, please):

Btw, WP:POLITICIAN is not the only relevant guideline here. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 06:26, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Almost all of those are more about the book than him. One is using his book to slap someone else around. It is just the news grabbing onto the outlandish claims in his book or a bit of a copy selling laugh. --Narson ~ Talk • 12:13, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "outlandish claims" were noted by multiple reliable media. I don't judge theories, they're foolish for some and wise for others. I would agree with merging this bio to How to Live a Low-Carbon Life. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 13:50, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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redirect -- failed candidate = NN; author of a book on which we have an article does not necessarily make him notable; hence redirect ot book. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - low-level political candidate, non-notable author. This individual does not pass WP:GNG or any of the more specific guidelines. SnottyWong ^prattle 20:05, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Notable author. Just noticed that he did a book review for Nature Reports no less. Johnfos (talk) 02:02, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep — Sufficient notability as an author. I encourage a lower bar for politicians, since they are "public figures" by nature, and that's additional worth to the topic. It's just a stub, needs improvement, obviously, but deletion is not the answer here. Carrite (talk) 02:58, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Can I ask which bit of the author guidelines you believe he has passed? And a lower bar for politicians (which I would lean towards supporting, were it not for a CoI) is a good debate t have, but one for the policy pages and not something to be driven by AfDs. --Narson ~ Talk • 14:11, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete; non-notable politician, and that coverage there is of his life and texts fails the "significance" test. Ironholds (talk) 18:57, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Per the WP:Author notability criterion 3, Goodall has created a collective body of work that has been the subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews. The periodicals include Journal of Environmental Health Research [1], The Guardian [2], The Times [3], New Scientist [4] [5], as well as many notable articles written by Goodall [6] [7] [8] [9]. Johnfos (talk) 20:29, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the reviews are sufficient to establish notability as an author. DGG ( talk ) 03:17, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - notably of this author clearly established per Johnfos' list.--E8 (talk) 00:40, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:58, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eddie Garrison

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Basically a puff piece without references that establish the subject's notability. Drmies (talk) 03:49, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the article has all the hallmarks of a conflict of interest – the creator and main contributors are a WP:SPA and IP account respectively. The article fails WP:RS, and the references are hobbyist sites, and are in any event for his trivial pursuits (ie not for his professional career or his life). There are only 141 unique Ghits for "Eddie Garrison" hockey, which is also a strong indicator of his general lack of notability Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 05:41, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete His touring car racing was not "professional" as he claims. Other sports similarly fails WP:ATHLETE -Drdisque (talk) 16:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 04:01, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Du Kirpalani

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This article is a completely unsourced BLP (it does not qualify for blpprod due to age). It does a great job of name dropping (various notable people he allegedly worked with, etc) but none of it is sourced. B (talk) 11:44, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How are IMDB references not considered valid sources ? Youtube links to standup comedy shows performed have been removed. IMDB links to the shows that include Du Kirpalani as a writer have been removed. If IMDB does not qualify as a valid film source, could you please tell me what does ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.84.246.125 (talk) 13:11, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IMDB contains user-authored data and is not considered to be a reliable source. --B (talk) 13:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

comment - it is possible that under all the press agentry and nauseatingly shameless promotional editing by the subject, his agent, his friends, his family, his producer(s), etc., there is actually a salvageable article here. Our US/UK cultural bias is well-known, and may be relevant here. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:40, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- According to the article, he lives in America now. If he were notable, you would think we could find something on him. As of right now, there isn't even anything that confirms his existence, let alone his notability. --B (talk) 15:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Delete per nom, and Mike, when you say "Our US/UK cultural bias is well-known," who is "we"? I write more articles on Asian stuff than American, and I take umbrage at the blanket tarring. Wikipedia as a community works very hard to prevent systemic bias. That does not mean we should wring our hands and let vanity autobios get a pass.--Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 17:25, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- reply I'm going by the state of the typical article on a small Tennessee town, for example, compared to that for a much bigger town in Maharashtra or Bali. That's not to deny that some of our editors do their best. In the case of this article, I meant that the claims of notability due to work in the Indian television industry are harder for the typical Wikipedia editor to confirm or deny, compared to the situation if he'd worked for the BBC or any U.S. network. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:15, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - reply+1 And how extensive are those Tennessee town articles on the Hindi or Gujarati or Malayalam Wikipedias? Bias is relative, the argument has no business in this AfD.--Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 15:46, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete due to utter lack of even a token effort toward neutrality; this could probably have been G11'd. I count 21 sentences in the current revision of the article; no more than two of them would appear unchanged in an NPOV version. Even if this person is even minimally notable, the onus is on those wishing to retain the article to provide reliable sources to show that he's an appropriate subject for an encyclopedia article. I could find no such sources amongst your obvious SEO; Wikipedia is not another outlet for the same. —Korath (Talk) 17:27, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO - little coverage in independent reliable sources. Claritas § 17:28, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - I prodded this sometime back as unsourced. Some IP got it reinstated through WP:REFUND. Instead of writing a neutral article using reliable sources, he (presumably the subject himself) has created an unsourced unabashedly promotional piece. ("I depend on wikipedia to get new work and I don't look professional if my articles are subject to deletion. Not only employers, but lawyers check up on me.")--Sodabottle (talk) 17:50, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- As a point of clarification, the article was never deleted (at least not under this name). IPs opened four separate requests on WP:REFUND and each time were informed that the article had never been deleted. --B (talk) 00:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jayjg ^(talk) 05:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brent Beardsley

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Delete Not notable, the fact that he served under Romeo Dallaire, was decorated and participated in writing a book about Rwanda does not make the Major notable. Jemesouviens32 (talk) 11:14, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable, per my comment on the article discussion page from three years ago. Any relevant information (and there isn't much) could easily be covered in Rwanda Genocide or Romeo Dallaire. Geoff NoNick (talk) 03:03, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 10:21, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - No decent reliable sources mention him in any detail, and he fails other aspects of GNG and MILMOS - didn't command a large body of troops, for example, or be the recipient of the highest valor award of his country, or multiple second-level medals.Skinny87 (talk) 05:15, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I found quite a few passing mentions, but not really enough, I feel, to satisfy the requirement for significant coverage. AustralianRupert (talk) 01:30, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:11, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stone Wallace

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I'm finding only one source for reviews and it looks, well, highly biased (and maybe a blog, I can't tell). No RSes I can find, but the name is fairly common... Hobit (talk) 00:50, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Besides no sources all the article says is that he writes books for a living. So no assertion of notability.Borock (talk) 11:57, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 01:03, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brian Hamburger

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Article is an autobiography that lacks independent sourcing and does not indicate notability sufficient for inclusion in Wikipedia QueenofBattle (talk) 20:09, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Hamburger fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. Claritas § 20:24, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - he is lacking any notable accomplishments as an attorney, and none of the references are reliable. Was he a leading editor on a law review or journal? Has he served an a major bar association committee? Has he taught at an accredited college or law school? Did he clerk for a notable judge? Bearian (talk) 20:17, 24 June 2010 (UTC) See also User:Bearian/Standards#Notable_attorney. Bearian (talk) 20:35, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Ref 3 is OK, but all the rest are primary sources. He's been quoted around the financial and trade press, [10][11][12] but I don't think the coverage is independent enough or substantial enough for us to put together a neutral and well sourced biography. Someone might be able to dig up better coverage, so I'm open to persuasion. I don't like editors using private notability standards - looking for independent, reliable, secondary sources is the right approach. Fences&Windows 22:15, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- p.s. He meets one of Bearian's standards as he was editor-in-chief of the law journal of the University of Miami School of Law.[13] Fences&Windows 22:18, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 23:57, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin Lau

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Non-notable Chiropractor lacking GHIts and GNEWs of substance. Claim to fame is self-published non-notable book and "people's choice" award. Appears to fail WP:BIO. ttonyb (talk) 14:50, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Non notable - only claim of notability (award for healthcare provider of the year) turns out to be a "readers choice" email from one person. 7 09:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That seems to be a miss-statement, if referring to this source, which is a Straits Times article/column. It refers to nominations for that award being by email, and quotes from an email or two. That does not mean the person was voted for by just one person, it simply means the nomination was received by email. The Straits Times is one of the leading newspapers in Singapore. --doncram (talk) 19:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a vote. Please re-read the whole article before claiming I am misinformed. I have now read it twice. The Best Health Care Provider awards issued by the Straits Times went to three doctors mentioned in the top section: Dr Lau Tang Ching, Dr Benedict Tan, and Ms Jeanette Jackson-Yap. Not to Kevin Lau. After the main section of the article, in the readers choice section, it clearly indicates that the single letter referring to Dr. Kevin Lau was one of the top four selected from "about 100" letters sent in by readers across for all health care providers in the area. It does not indicate whether or not there was more than one letter for any provider. 7 23:05, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Appears notable; vote for Delete above seems mis-informed. --doncram (talk) 19:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – Regardless of the newspaper's status, I fail to see how a "people's choice" award comprised of "about 100" popularity votes would make one notable. Please help me understand how this might be "non-trivial" coverage or an award of substance. ttonyb (talk) 22:58, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete pending some further showing of notability. The "readers choice" award doesn't seem to be "a well-known and significant award or honor" (per WP:ANYBIO). According to Amazon, his book is published by CreateSpace, which is a vanity press. Media coverage mentioned in the article might suggest that he is on his way to notability, but I'm not sure he's achieved it yet. According to the article, his name is "劉子傑". I get 27 hits on google news archives ([14]). Courtesy of google translate, I can tell that most of them are about athletes (two on a baseball player, the rest on a basketball player), except these: [15], [16], [17], which are clearly not this guy. (The name translates Liu Zijie). --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 18:03, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete no actual coverage in either English or Chinese, either by GNews or by directly searching in newspaper websites (like Lianhe Zaobao in Chinese, Straits Times and Channel NewsAsia in English). I read Chinese and can confirm that the hits pointed to by Moonriddengirl are about different people with the same name (which is rather common, especially among Cantonese-speakers). cab (talk) 10:14, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the notable articles that suggest Kevin Lau to be an important and significant figure in both nutrition and spinal correction http://scoliosis.com.sg/media-appearances.html. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.157.187.133 (talk) 18:15, 28 June 2010 (UTC) — 124.157.187.133 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
http://scoliosis.com.sg is his own website. 7 22:45, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 04:29, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Simon Johnson (entrepreneur)

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fails WP:BIO and WP:CREATIVE. simply writing one book and a chapter of another doesn't mean you're notable. no real extensive coverage for him either [18]. LibStar (talk) 13:59, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I'm not finding any significant coverage of him. We could add something about the book to Internet safety. Fences&Windows 23:14, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 04:29, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Armando Cesari

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fails WP:CREATIVE. coverage mainly for authoring one biography but no significant accolades for this. [19]. LibStar (talk) 13:47, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I can't find significant coverage for this author. Joe Chill (talk) 00:47, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 04:28, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sima Yari

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Nonnotable selfpublished poet. Only references are to blogs, book selling websites, and mirrors of Wikipedia.Farhikht (talk) 12:25, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

and check this!:) Farhikht (talk) 13:11, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I can't find significant coverage for this poet. Joe Chill (talk) 20:55, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. no consensus after three weeks of discussion JForget 00:43, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sepideh Jodeyri

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This person fails WP:BIO and no reliable source in English and Persian has pointed her notability. The sources of the article are two generalist newspaper which is not at all enough for notability. There are tens of literary magazines in Iran and I didn't find good things about her on this online database.Farhikht (talk) 13:14, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per nom, fails WP:BIO and WP:GNG. I can't find any evidence of significant coverage. Claritas § 16:14, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Sepideh Jodeyri seems to be an important exponent of Iranian literature - poet, translator, organizer (additionally, some of the sources suggest her participation in the local feminist movement). I found coverage in multiple languages: Persian, [20], English, Dutch. The translation of the titles of refs in the Iranian article looks reliable. I admit, this is just my conjecture that's based on my instinct rather than careful analysis. However, that's all I can do, this article needs an attention of people familiar with the Iranian cultural scene and language. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:39, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- This source is about the Khorshid Prize and not about the poet. As I know, self published work is not reliable as a means to establish notability and accroding to this, her work has to be the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.Farhikht (talk) 11:20, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is an interview with the poet, am I right? Is she an organizer of the Khorshid Prize? --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 11:44, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. In fact, she is the founder of the prize.Farhikht (talk) 12:10, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, here is an interesting Swedish article about the prize. Publishing and promotion of woman's poetry in Iran seems to be quite complicated. Farhikht, please, could you look carefully at the Google Search result for the Persian version of her name? Some of the listed pages link to the reliable news servers. Google translator is weak and I can't read the script. Thank you. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 12:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I checked it. Most of them are blogs, and some are little things (and not reviews) about her books. This link didn't work. In Iran we have many literary magazines and I think that a wikipedia article about a poet need this kind of source.Farhikht (talk) 13:02, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your effort, Farhikht. I'm still inclined to keep the article. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 13:15, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck to you.Farhikht (talk) 13:25, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Second relist rationale. The article is a BLP. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 01:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zeena Schreck

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Long unreferenced BLP, questionable notability, full of gossip Yworo (talk) 05:30, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment The individual does have some coverage[21][22][23][24][25] and the article may be salvagable... but it does needs a MAJOR sandblasting. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 05:07, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Among those five examples of "coverage", this is a fascinating article indeed -- but ZS has only a bit part within it. Hoary (talk) 21:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Well... that article offers something more than a trivial mention, it addresses the subject directly and in detail... and WP:GNG specifically allows that the subject need not be the main topic of the source material. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 04:40, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Here's the direct and detailed (or not) address: Some of [her dad's] diabolic transmissions can be heard as well on the somewhat campy 1966 LP The Satanic Mass, which features various unholy rituals, most spectacularly the demonic baptism of his three-and-a-half-year-old daughter, Zeena. ¶ Zeena Schreck was most likely the world's first famous Satanic toddler. Besides practicing the black arts, Schreck too is a musician; also an actress, photographer, and writer. She reigned as High Priestess and public spokesperson of the Church of Satan from 1985 until her resignation in 1990. "World's most famous [anything]" is always promising, but unfortunately I can't think of any other satanic toddlers and suspect that there's little competition. -- Hoary (talk) 04:53, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Question: She's second author of a book that I (in the reality-based community) vaguely infer consists of twaddle and that Amazon says is "Bestsellers Rank: #1,347,382 in Books": rather dismal in its own genre, if you consider that this thing makes it to "#10,458 in Books". It's claimed that she's a photographer -- any noteworthy exhibitions or published photobooks? -- Hoary (talk) 21:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for now. I LOL'd a little at the ranking# 1,347,382 in Books. JBsupreme (talk) ✄ ✄ ✄ 02:06, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus with leave to speedy renominate. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:35, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fred Haeseker

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Subject fails WP:ANYBIO. The sources in the article fail to establish notability for the subject as they are written by the subject. Further, I can find no third party reliable sources that establish notability. Pinkadelica ^♣ 23:27, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Second relist rationale. The article is a BLP. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep We have normally regarded being included in an anthology as a major factor in notability for a writer.This single one seems adequate DGG ( talk ) 01:43, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- "We have normally regarded...". Yikes! Turn off the Kagan hearings. Wikipedia is not a court, we don't do precedents, and thank God for that because judges notoriously pick whatever precedents suit their desired end. Forget anthologies; how's this for a precedent? 160.39.212.104 (talk) 01:49, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

inconsistency is not a virtue, but a sign of immaturity. We don't follow precedents in the exact sense the anglo-american legal system does; we do establish our practices through custom as well as formal rule-making. What we consistently do amounts to a guideline. Needless to dsay, we can change it if we chave agreement to do so, as with any guideline or policy. Inclusion in an anthology is essentially the rough equivalent of the more formal WP:CREATIVE guidelines that are worded to apply to visual artists: b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums. DGG ( talk ) 22:26, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Theoretical notability based on a number of major publications isn't enough when the article is fundamentally unsourceable. ~ mazca ^talk 12:29, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Karen Fredricks

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Autobiography without any third party sources. Has authored a number of books, but I don't see any indication that they have received much attention. Leivick (talk) 20:12, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

weak keep. The number of books listed at World Cat Identities and the fact that they are published by a reputable publisher is a positive indication of notability. Being specialist Dummies guides, they are unlikely to attract much in the way of mainstream reviews. There may well be reviews in the specialist press. More problematical for me is that the article has been written by the subject and has a promotional tone. I would suggest stubifying and keeping but I can't say I feel strongly about it. I have just tagged for the computing Project. Perhaps someone over there might take an interest--Plad2 (talk) 19:42, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep' - author of a dozen how-to guides in a popular series. Bearian (talk) 01:20, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Second relist rationale. The article is an unsourced BLP. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:27, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The number of books i9n a major series from a major publisher is notability enough. I removed the advertising for her and her company. DGG ( talk ) 01:01, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete No third-party sources, only authored a few books of notability, she is not notable as an author and has not received any acclamation or praise for her works. Fridae'§Doom | Talk to me 23:55, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
'Delete This is an unsourced BLP. This requires sources. Since there appear to be none this must be deleted as BLP is a policy and trumps AUTHOR. Spartaz ^Humbug! 05:19, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all articles must be supported by independent, reliable sources of which there are currently none in the article, nor have any been mentioned in this discussion. The 'Keep' "votes" above argue that she is notable based on her writing even in the absence of sources covering her. In another context it may make sense to use such heuristics as firm notability rules, but given that the article is a BLP I can't see keeping it in the absence of sources. Eluchil404 (talk) 09:04, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:BIO, and we can't keep a BLP without sources. Claritas § 09:51, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. going no consensus to allow some space for improvement and tranbslation of sources Spartaz ^Humbug! 06:09, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jelena Tinska

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Unsourced BLP, no indication of notability per WP:BIO according to the article and an (English) Google search. Sandstein 20:16, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Assistance of translating Serbian language sources [26][27][28] is needed else WP:UNKNOWNHERE may be this article's downfall. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 01:54, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Certainly has a fair few sources, even if we can't translate them accurately. She's also well known in Serbia, it seems, and the article, while unsourced, isn't libellous or poorly written. Default to keep. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 10:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep at least until we can get a better translation, etc. as there do appear to be reliable sources, and it doesn't make much sense to delete prematurely, if the shortcoming is our lack of knowledge at the moment and it is reasonably correctible Vartanza (talk) 18:20, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete an unsourced BLP, no evidence the person meets the notability guidelines. Lustralaustral (talk) 01:01, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps you might reconsider if the many Serbian sources found in Find sources receive translation. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 23:35, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Second relist rationale. The article is a BLP. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:16, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per my comments above. Article is now undergoing cleanup. Expansion and sourcing have commenced. Additional help would be appreciated. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 20:32, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:03, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tim Goodyer

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Non-notable per WP:CREATIVE, unreferenced WP:Autobiography per WP:BLP, zero GNEWS hits, zero coverage online from WP:Reliable sources. Prod contested by creator. Empty Buffer (talk) 09:27, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Non notable. No sourcing, and even as listed, his accomplishments don't seem like much from the standpoint of WP:N. --MelanieN (talk) 15:55, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Consensus seems to be the article does not pass WP:V or WP:N NW (Talk) 13:39, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kay Rush

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Publicity page seeking to establish notablility of a non notable person. No references to verify and no true notability asserted. All external links are spammy in nature Fiddle Faddle (talk) 00:06, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Kay rush is a notable person in Italy.User:Lucifero4
- Using Google, which I agree is not the ultimate arbiter of notability, I see no notability for this person from reliable sources, certainly yet. When and if Kay Rush is verifiably notable then she may have an article with pleasure. So far she appears to have been very involved with self publicity in this article in an apparent attempt to create notability. Wikipedia is not a place to advertise one's self. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 11:23, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Kay Rush has been the host of San Remo music festival, Raiuno is also the most viewed tv station of Italy.User:Lucifero4
    - Please see this google search. Wikipedia requires verifiability, assuming that this is notable. If you have relevant citations then add them to the article. That is what will save it, not the making of statements here. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 18:09, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - Please see San Remo Festival#Hosts, where Rush's name is absent. This looks to be the festival you mention. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 18:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        That is a link of rush in San Remo [29], then a link from Raiuno official website where Rush is mentioned with the surname Sandvik[30] the surmane of his stepfather .User:Lucifero4
        Youtube is not a valid source for citations. As for the other one, I thought Rush was a lady. If you have valid citations please ensure that you add them to the article. Note that they must pass WP:RS to be acceptable. Adding links here is pointless. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 20:02, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        I have place the links in order to show to everyone that Rush is a well known woman and because you have written that you can find citation about rush in Sanremo.User:Lucifero4
        And I can still find none. 'Sandvik' is Sandvik; where does Sandvik equate to Rush? Where can this be cited? And Youtube is not relevant here. FInd citations and place them in the article if you can. So far all you are achieving is a long and fruitless discussion. The article is a curriculum vitae and an advert. It is borderline Speedy Deletion material. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 21:31, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        IMDB: "Pazza famiglia" (1995) TV series (as Kay Sandvik) - BalthCat (talk) 01:33, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        IMDB is a user edited site and thus not a reliable source. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 16:42, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        Google reveals plenty of adequate if not ideal sources. The most reliable mistakenly spells it with a C, so I suppose we can't "prove" anything. Just pretend the information doesn't exist, since you can't find it in a peer reviewed article, I guess. Or does that mean we have to spell her name wrong, since it's sourced as such? - BalthCat (talk) 08:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia requires Reliable Sources, not adequate sources. It's an encyclopaedia, not a gossip column, and it is certainly not a place for Kay Rush to establish her own notability as she appears to be seeking to do. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 18:23, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If that is the case, why is verifiability a suggested tag under WP:ATD? (Also don't bother me with Rush's COI, that's a completely separate issue.) - BalthCat (talk) 04:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you are so keen on saving the article, cease the rhetoric and hop in and edit it and save it that way. Currently is is pretty much blatant advertising. Wikipedia is not a place to post your resumé. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 08:42, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note to closer I think this would benefit from relisting. The original listing was slap bang in the middle of a set of procedural nominations and/or relistings and may have been obscured. I see insufficient interest even to classify this as no consensus at this stage. Your mileage may vary. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 23:36, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Notability is asserted multiple times, such as She wins a Telegatto, the Italian equivalent for an Emmy. The claim is that she's all over notable television networks and shows. This may be a BLP but there appears to be nothing contentious, this really ought to be brought to the attention of some WikiProjects for fixing. - BalthCat (talk) 01:26, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete."Notability is asserted multiple times"? In this article it is, yes, but there are no references to show so outside wiki. Moriori (talk) 02:31, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since this refers to me: Sourcing is a problem to be fixed. WP:ATD says If the page can be improved, this should be solved through regular editing, rather than deletion. - BalthCat (talk) 10:11, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's your chance then. If you fix the problem, I'll change my vote. Moriori (talk) 21:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your "vote" isn't needed. You might take to heart that it's as much your responsibility as mine to find proper sources for this article. - BalthCat (talk) 07:12, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Like hell it is. Every editor has the right to ask people to justify/reference their creations/work. It is not our responsibility to come along after them and do their job for them. We're already busy trying to make wiki look like an encyclopedia.Moriori (talk) 07:30, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So in what way is it my responsibility more than yours? WP:ATD is pretty clear. If you want to do something extraordinary, like delete an article with clear assertions of notability and significant indication in weak sources that notability may be verifiable, then YOU go the extra mile. The verify tag exists for a reason: tag it and move on. - BalthCat (talk) 07:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How disingenuous. I didn't say it is more your responsibility than mine. I said editors have a right to ask people to justify/reference their creations/work without having to do it for them. It is revealing that you think my vote isn't needed. Moriori (talk) 08:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well this isn't my work, or my creation, so challenging me to justify and reference it is making it my responsibility to fix this article's problems. There's nothing disingenuous about calling you on that. Your vote isn't needed (by me, at least) because you haven't provided a justifiable reason for deleting this article, considering the clear meaning of WP:ATD. Considering that it is clear from reading Google results that Kay Rush/Sandvik is at minimum marginally notable, it is entirely justifiable to suggest that there's no good excuse to ignore WP:ATD. - BalthCat (talk) 08:51, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bollocks. You said sourcing was a problem to be fixed, and I called you on it. Even if this survives afd, it will attract further attention unless it is adequately referenced. Moriori (talk) 09:20, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How is what I said bollocks? Yes, I said it was a problem to be fixed, see WP:TIND. Tell me how WP:ATD and google's indication she is at minimum marginally notable not add up to keeping the article with a verify tag? - BalthCat (talk) 10:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep She is a well known radio personality in Italy. That's what the first result from a Google news search told me. [31] Plus if she's won a notable award, that counts too. Dream Focus 04:29, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - notability is asserted plenty of times, but there's no genuine significant coverage in reliable sources. Fails [{WP:BIO]], WP:GNG. Claritas § 07:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Precisely the reason I nominated it. This page seeks to establish the subject's notability, it does not record it from reliable sources Fiddle Faddle (talk) 07:41, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Do you people ever actually read WP:ATD? Sourcing is not a justification for deletion if there are reasonable grounds to believe the person is notable and sources can be found. Has anyone who has recommended delete bothered to go looking? has anyone informed a relevant WikiProject? has anyone asked anyone who speaks Italian or who lives in Italy? Sourcing is a problem with a solution. If the page can be improved, this should be solved through regular editing, rather than deletion. WP:ATD then proceeds to specifically tell you that the { { verify } } tag is there for you to use. How is this not an obvious directive to keep articles that assert notability until there is indication (aside from some googling) that the article is unverifiable? - BalthCat (talk) 07:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Speaking as one of you people, a term which I find to be disparaging to the point of general incivility, I have read it. I have chosen to nominate it because those tags have just plain not workd. If you care that much then leap in and edit it. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 08:46, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - I would need an army to fix all the articles nominated for deletion despite WP:TIND, WP:PAPER, and WP:ATD, among others. I'm not entirely sure what would satisfy people at this point, to be completely honest. Pazza famiglia 2 had an average audience of 5.4 million viewers as per this. I find other Google book references, but I can't read Italian. - BalthCat (talk) 07:59, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The burden of finding sources to establish notability is on those who believe the article should be kept. I looked, and could find none that satisfied me. This article is basically a WP:RESUME for a non-notable person. SnottyWong ^babble 04:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Doubt has been expressed over whether sources are likely to exist. To rebut this, sources should be shown. Yes, there are many claims of notability, but no sources to back them up. At the moment WP:V is as much a problem as WP:N. Bear in mind that had this been created a couple of months later it would have been deleted as BLPPROD. I cannot imagine why we should be any less stringent going through an AfD than sticking a prod on. Quantpole (talk) 10:11, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I legally changed my adopted name back to my birth name, hence the confusion with Rush and Sandvick. In Europe, they had difficulty spelling and pronouncing my name Kay Rush Kayrush (talk) 16:55, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Article in English about me and my name change: http://www.onmilwaukee.com/ent/articles/kaytalks.html Now that we are past this obstacle, what do I need to do or cancel to make my page acceptable? It was already in Wikipedia Italia; I only translated it. I am also in Wikipedia Spain because I worked in television there for four years. I have not had any problems in either of these countries. If I have to cancel some sentences, no problem. I do not need the publicity; I only wanted the page in my mother tongue for people who do know me in the United States. Thank you. Kay Rush Kayrush (talk) 17:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - I have looked at the Italian and Spanish articles. As far as I can determine, the sources there do not pass WP:RS either. Their standards may be different from here, of course. I have no way of judging. But, so far as I can tell, even using those sources as citations fails to assert and/or verify notability. Ms Rush has asked me for advice on my talk page, and I have responded there in the hopes that she may yet find appropriate sources to allow this article to be kept. I have also advised her that editing an article about one's self is deprecated. Perhaps an editor who feels strongly about keeping this article might approach her to help her avoid COI. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 19:54, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- after nearly two weeks at AFD, the side advocating keep still have not satisfied WP:BURDEN- and I can't find any substantial coverage either. Reyk _YO! 01:31, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment To be fair, for the first week the notice was somewhat lost. Even so those concerned with editing the article only seem to have switched a gear yesterday by asking (above) what to do. Yet the Italian and Spanish articles also suffer fromthe same problem. As someone commented above, I, too, do not read these languages, but I was not satisfied that the media I could find in them were themselves {{WP:RS]] compliant, so reading the text was hardly relevant. And there is Google Translate. We also know that anyone can wrte a book and that you acquire an ISBN as a matter of course whether your book is vanity published or mainstream published. WP:TIND was quoted above, an amusing essay, but just that, an essay. WP:PAPER was quoted, something which looks like a last ditch attempt to save the unsavabale. "Look, we can't actually find any references for this, but let's keep it anyway, we have shedloads of room" is not a valid argument. Itls like taking in all the stray mongrel puppies you can find and pretending they are pedigree dogs and entering them for Crufts. When Ms Rush becomes notable and verifiable, then the article on her has a place here. However I can find, so far, nothing to suggest that she passes our criteria. And her references to "my article" reinforce my belief that this is a publicity exercise, an advert. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 08:16, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - I would also refer to an article about me as "my article", rather than "the article about me" for brevity's sake, as she might refer to "her picture" whether or not it was taken by a provessional photographer or a hobo on the street, so long as the subject was her. I believe the COI issue is completely irrelevent to this AfD. - BalthCat (talk) 08:29, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Perhaps I can simply point you to these: WP:RESUME, WP:NOTABILITY, WP:VERIFIABILITY. This article fails. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 09:29, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. No arguments for deletion aside from the nominator. (and even he's not sure) (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:20, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

R. N. Taber

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I believe this BLP fails the notability requirements. I have added a full set of ISBNs after checking the bibliography on Google Books and Worldcat, these appear to be self-published. I find no evidence of independent news items or independent reviews. The single review included (from the LGBT History Month site) has no evidence of who the reviewer is, and that site accepts book reviews from anyone prepared to email one in. The site oneandother is no evidence of notability as the point of the performance art installation was that non-notable members of the public took part. Unless someone can produce at least one independent review demonstrating impact then the article fails WP:GNG.

Unfortunately, I see that the page history shows some possible COI contributions and that contributor has not responded to associated notices on their talk page. Consequently notability here may be over estimated. Fæ (talk) 13:28, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Weak~~ keep I found a couple of notes under his full name (Roger Taber). This one is simply a mention of a poerty reading at a London LGBT Arts Festival, but this one is a little more extensive and describes him as a professional poet. I'll add them in to the article and see if I can unearth anything additional. --Jezebel'sPonyo ^shhh 13:43, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just found this BBC blurb describing him as a "top poet". That seals the deal for me, I've changed my opinion to 'keep'. --Jezebel'sPonyo ^shhh 13:54, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good finds, probably sufficient. I note that the Scarborough Evening News and the BBC Somerset news both count as local sources rather than national and are weak evidence of impact in the GNG context. Fæ (talk) 14:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Although my original intention was to endorse deletion based on the former state of the article, I'm finding many mentions in various local papers and reputable primary sources. He certainly does seem prominent and well recognized within the LGBT community. As poets do not always receive the same amount of attention as novelists, the fact that I am able to find so many references to him being a noted poet solidifies notability for me. Jezebel'sPonyo ^shhh 14:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Second relist rationale. The article is a BLP. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:06, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per discussion above. Hobit (talk) 15:24, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I think the points above are sound, and document that notability exists - Ponyo's research seals it. UltraExactZZ ^Said~ Did 20:28, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Licia Troisi (via WP:PROD on 25 December 2007)
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