User talk:Myheartinchile

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Applicability of WP:CORP to a mall

Good evening. In a recent deletion discussion, you questioned the applicability of WP:CORP to a mall since that guideline "is for an individual company". The thing to remember is that the mall is an individual company - it's the landlord that the other tenants rent space from. Certain malls may qualify for extra consideration based on the building (for example, if they have exceptional architecture) but other than that, a mall is the same as any other landlord. We deliberately wrote WP:CORP broadly to encompass as many kinds of organizations as possible. Hope that clarifies things a bit. If you'd like to discuss it more, you might want to drop a comment on WP:CORP's Talk page. Thanks. Rossami (talk) 01:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

NPOV

Hi there, I was reading through wp:Ani, and found that a complaint has been made about you, regarding adding NPOV tags to articles, please remember to discuss on the relevent talkpage when you place a tag on an article, it stops confusion like this and means we know what is NPOV in your opinion, if you need anymore information about this, feel free to drop me a line on my talkpage. Best regards, Chafford (talk) 09:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

In the case of Chris Crocker, adding a tag saying it needs additional citations borders on the disruptive given how many references there already are. If you think there are uncited statements, tag or remove them and then discuss on the talk page. If you feel the article is POV, you also need to give your reasoning on the talk page. Continuing to readd the tags without engaging in discussion will be seen as disruptive editing and you could end up getting blocked. Trebor (talk) 10:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

What correlation is there between x amount of citations and uncited content? If i have 90 references for 15 out of 20 statements but none for the rest, the rest still need citations. There is an error in your logic. I have mentioned it on the talk page. I could give additional information if necessary, however I believe it it pretty obvious what needs to be done. Here's my line. In general the article's tone is very unencyclopedic, it is full of useless trivia, a lot of content is inserted repetitiously. its not a good read at all. basically. its a bad article. lets improve it. if it must exist.

Replied on my talk page. Trebor (talk) 00:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

June 2008

Regarding your comments on Chris Crocker: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. You've now accused me twice of being Crocker - please stop. You have some valid concerns and if you would dial down the accusations we can have some constructive dialog and it could help the article improve. Banjeboi 03:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Talk:Chris Crocker (Internet celebrity). Thank you. Bidgee (talk) 04:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Per your request, in this diff your entire message on my talk page is "are you chris crocker?" A day later on the talk page of the Crocker article you wrote in this diff - "Also you have very serious POV issues since you are Chris Crocker." Crocker, if you hadn't seen it in the article, gets near-daily death threats so I encourage you to cease from accusing anyone' of being Crocker as death threats are not to be taken lightly. Banjeboi 20:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

The first is not an accusation, it is a question that you have yet to answer. I personally feel you are very likely the individual in question. Death threats which may or may not be real are not my problem and thinking someone is the individual question has nothing to do with the alleged death threats as I am not threatening anyone. The only person liable is the person making the threats. I doubt Crocker has ever received any serious death threats. I think people just find him annoying and like to say off the wall shit on youtube etc.Myheartinchile (talk) 22:07, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Since you seem determined to push the point, no I'm not the subject of the article. And yes, wikipedia takes death threats and violating policies seriously so please stop. Banjeboi 23:41, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Well there are no death threats on wikipedia so you have nothing to worry about. What policy am I violating exactly?Myheartinchile (talk) 00:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Stupid"

Can you please give me a break, I didnt refer to you as stupid I said I think the idea is stupid, That is my opinion and I have every right to express it--Yankees10 22:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I proably shouldn't have used that word, sorry--Yankees10 00:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem, thanks--Yankees10 00:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Crocker

Note: warning removed per[1]

Since you insist: [2]. There is absolutely no justification for this sort of accusation. Please read WP:BLP. Wikipedia talk pages are not fan forums for discussing rumors about people, and it particularly is not a place for you defame people. Gwernol 23:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

No, YouTube is not a reliable source and even if it was, its an obvious fake/hoax. We do no defame people based on an unreliable hoax. Gwernol 23:38, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

FYI Crocker posted the original video then removed it for his own reasons, it showed him and his "brother" who he revealed to be his boyfriend at the time in a reliable source. it was indeed a hoax likely to shock people. The video itself isn't notable enough for inclusion but could be if it becomes so. Banjeboi 23:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Two further points. First, read WP:BLP. You may not defame living people on Wikipedia. If you continue to put yourself and Wikipedia in legal jeopardy by doing this you will be blocked from editing. Second, it would be (at the least) courteous for you to notify me if you are going to question my actions at ANI or any other forum. Thanks, Gwernol 01:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Myheartinchile, please be more careful with the way you phrase comments on Wikipedia as the comment you posted to the Crocker talk page was a clear violation of the Biographies of Living People policy. I believe that you didn't intend to do anything wrong but the fact is that it was a violation of policy and the warning was therefore correct and you were lucky you weren't blocked. If you want to post a controversial topic like this in future, please provide a link to an article in a newspaper or other reliable source discussing the issue and remember that the WP:BLP policy applies to all pages on Wikipedia, not just the article itself. YouTube isn't a reliable source on Wikipedia; please read the guideline on reliable sources to see what kinds of sites are acceptable to use as sources. On Wikipedia, we are very strict with biographies of living people so please be more careful. Sarah 01:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Myheartinchile, the administrator at WP:ANI did not tell you my warning was unjustified. He said you were permitted to remove the warning, which you are. Your addition to Talk:Chris Crocker (Internet celebrity) clearly breached our policy of WP:BLP. If you continue this kind of disruptive editing you will be blocked. Please stop be much more careful in your editing, and please read what editors are actually saying. You should also read the clarification left at WP:ANI. Gwernol 02:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

warning

respectfully, thats patent bull. the article in question uses youtube as a source dozens of times and the claims in question are represented in a video from the article's subject that he made and posted on youtube. it was the only source i had and its the only source for all the other videos besides "Leave Brittany Alone". I asked on the administrators reporting page and they said the warning was unwarranted. i don't think anything i claimed was controversial with regarads the to behavior and "art" that this individual is reported on in the context of this article or his life. see the video for yourself [3] if a video is not a reliable source for the subject at hand i don't know what is.Myheartinchile (talk) 02:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Please re-read the administrator's noticeboard Wikipedia:ANI#warning_removal - I was one of the admins who responded to you and none of us have said the warning was unwarranted. We have only said that you may remove the messages if you want to, which is something that all users on Wikipedia are allowed to do on their own talk page so long as they don't do it in a disruptive manner. No one on ANI has told you the warning was unwarranted. YouTube is not a reliable source, again, please read - reliable sources, verifiability and Biographies of Living People. Links to YouTube are used to link to the videos in question but they are not suitable to use as reliable sources for a blp and most certainly not for controversial claims like asserting that someone is in an incestuous relationship with their brother. If you want to make controversial claims, you need to find reliable sources as defined by Wikipedia and if you don't you are going to end up being the blocked. That's the bottom line, really. You can think it's "patent bull" if you wish but you've been warned by multiple admins now and if you continue to make such comments about living people without reliable sources (again, as defined by Wikipedia, not by your own opinion) then you will be blocked. Sarah 02:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

well how can i talk about it then, how can i ask about it, if i'm not allowed to.?Myheartinchile (talk) 02:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Myheartinchile, as I've stated a few times now, it was the semantics and tone that got you into trouble. Your statement was that Crocker was is a incestuous relationship, instead you can simple link to the source (video in this case) and ask something like, this seems likes it's worth mentioning, anyone else agree or have seen it before? You could even state he seems to be in an incestuous relationship - is that true? It allows other editors to check the source and likely someone will respond with the correct info, in this case that it was a hoax. Banjeboi 03:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

As explained by others, you need to be careful with how you phrase comments on biographies. That question you asked was phrased as though it were a statement of fact and that is a large part of the problem. The other thing is that if it is something likely to be considered controversial or something that might be considered libelous, then you need to have a link to a source. Also, remember that article talk pages are for discussing the article only, not for discussing gossip so it's really not the place to go to to ask if something is true or not. Sarah 04:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Infoboxes

Hi. Please do not engage in edit warring. It's unhelpful, if you feel layout issues should be address you could ask for help or assistance rather than simply reverting something because you don't like how it looks. Per the Wikipedia manual of style infoboxes for articles do indeed go on top on justified to the right side just as it was. Banjeboi 23:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

March 19, 2008 anti-war protest

It is inappropriate to prod an article after it has undergone a deletion debate. If you wish to contest the result of the discussion the proper place to do so is at deletion review. Shereth 18:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Please clarify your question posed on my talk page. Also note that I will respond to questions placed on my talk page there, rather than here. Shereth 18:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for alerting me to the deletion review.--ragesoss (talk) 19:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

No. It would be canvassing if you were only notifying editors who shared your view on the matter, but there's nothing wrong with alerting participants in an earlier discussion about a related one.--ragesoss (talk) 20:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

• From your comments on User:Shereth's talk page, it's getting to the point where you are ceasing to make reasoned arguments and starting to harrassing him/her. I feel that it is likely to become counter-productive in the DRV, and suggest that you laid off. Ohconfucius (talk) 12:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Student lounge

I have nominated Student lounge, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Student lounge (2nd nomination). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 22:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Stan Neeleman

I added some references to Stan Neeleman. --Eastmain (talk) 02:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

June 2008

Regarding your comments on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Soda jerk: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Gwernol 10:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

On a text medium like Wikipedia, it is very hard to tell that a statement like that was meant as a joke. It looks exactly like a personal attack and would likely be read like that by most people reading it. I suggest you avoid such "jokes" in the future. Thanks, Gwernol 19:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Article moves (renaming)

Hi, you were probably unaware but renaming articles should generally not be done when they are in AfD or in this case deletion review. Once that process is over we can probably find a new name for the article. Banjeboi 22:41, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

War on terror protest template

Excellent template addition, though it needs to be cleaned up a bit. However, navigation templates like that go at the bottom of the articles, below any "see also", "references", "external links", etc. sections. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Another thing - I'm paring down the reach of the now-renamed {{Protests against the Iraq War}} template, so if you see a lot of rollbacks from me, don't worry about it. I'm doing some reworking. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:15, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

FYI...

"...the article she links to only speaks of the methodology used in the protests and shows that it was a small minor one as there wasn't even a march." - I am a guy. Nwwaew (Talk Page) (Contribs) (E-mail me) 19:21, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Good job!

		The Citation Barnstar
		Good job on adding those references at International Surfing Day! I think those will really turn the tide at its AfD --Explodicle (talk) 13:55, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

KUDOS for your dedication in working to get the International Surfing Day article of AfD. Please send me a PM via the ISD MySpace if possible. Would like to send you an ISD package (skateboard, t-shirt, etc.) for your efforts. Otherwise email me at makingwaves@surfrider.org. Matty3121 (talk) 07:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

International Surfing Day

It is highly inappropriate for an editor to initiate a non-admin closure for an article with which he/she has a vested editing interest. It taints the process. Simply suggest a "speedy keep" or let the AfD run its course. Rklawton (talk) 00:36, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Please also take a moment to review what Wikipedia holds forth as a reliable source. This will help you both with article writing and defence. Rklawton (talk) 01:08, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Brimley Ball

Hi, can you clarify why you think Brimley Ball shouldn't be deleted? Please keep in mind that deletion discussions aren't head counts, so you should give an argument. Thanks --AW (talk) 20:32, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

like i said, its notable.Myheartinchile (talk) 22:33, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

But why? --AW (talk) 15:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

International Surfing Day DYK

Please visit the International Surfing Day DYK nomination to address some concerns raised. Thanks. Bebestbe (talk) 22:59, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

International Surfing Day

On 2 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article International Surfing Day, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 14:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case

You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Myheartinchile for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. ⇔ ∫Æ_S dt @ 21:41, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

• While this was a good faith report on my part, given the existence of an alternate possible explanation for the apparent sockpuppetry, and the fact that both explanations seem equally likely, I concede there is no proof even by a burden of the preponderance of the evidence (requiring sockpuppetry to be more likely than not) that this is a case of sockpuppetry. I will thus assume good faith and have withdrawn the report. My apologies. ⇔ ∫Æ_S dt @ 22:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

help me

{{helpme}}

What's up with this "sock puppetry" thing? what's going on? How will it proceed?Myheartinchile (talk) 04:27, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

It means someone has suspected you of possessing more than one accounts on Wikipedia and using them abusively, i.e. to aid you in deciding consensus ——RyanLupin • (talk) 07:53, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

what can i do?Myheartinchile (talk) 08:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

The only thing you can do is read through this ——RyanLupin • (talk) 08:13, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Template:Muni

See Template talk:Muni for my full rationale. I will agree to stop reverting if you start discussing on the talk page instead of in edit summaries. —Kurykh 17:18, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Just curious, but what stations do you plan to have articles about? All of the platform stops, or...? (not saying that creating those articles is wrong...) —Kurykh 22:10, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

It's because that while there is a tendency to create articles for platform stops, there is an aversion to create articles for regular stops (those on the J, K, L, M, and N, with exceptions). Ok. Oh, and btw, you might want to fix your copy-and-pastes; the addresses are different for each article. And it's spelled "Brannan." —Kurykh 22:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

No, no, I'm cool, but I live too far from the beach And my house has no air conditioning. =( —Kurykh 22:24, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

T Third Street stations

Two notes: the signage of the UCSF Mission Bay station says "Gene Friend Way", as do all Muni references, and Williams station has only "Williams" and not "Van Dyke" or any inclusion of that phrase in any Muni reference. —Kurykh 06:59, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

UCSF Mission Bay: change it back to the original Gene Friend Way Station, then use "Lane" in address.

Williams: I think change it back, but add Van Dyke to the address. Following signage is the best route, I think. —Kurykh 07:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

what about the muni map or the official name. i think we should include van dyke for practicality since all the other stations show the double intersections dual namings.

That's because they actually do have both names on the signs. For example, the Oakdale/Palou station actually has signs that say "Oakdale/Palou". —Kurykh 07:09, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

About the T line template: don't add "Visitacion Valley" in, or else it screws up the template for Arleta. It's supposed to have "terminus" right underneath "Sunnydale", but only if the template is in a certain format. —Kurykh 07:12, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Um, the trains actually only say either "Sunnydale & Bayshore" (rolling signs) or just "Sunnydale" (digital signs), but never "Visitacion Valley" in whatever form. —Kurykh 16:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

The article title, infobox title, and the first mention in the article body are supposed to have the full name of the station (minus "station"), such as "Folsom and The Embarcadero", etc. The contraction, "Folsom", can be used in the rest of the article. That's why I keep changing them back. —Kurykh 00:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

There's being aesthetically pleasing, and there's being informative. The latter is predominant. On Wikipedia, at least. —Kurykh 00:38, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Before you get all angry at me (I think that was unintended), here are my policy citations: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (infoboxes)#Design and usage for infoboxes, and Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Article titles, headings and sections. —Kurykh 01:32, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

From Wikipedia:Manual of Style (infoboxes)#Design and usage:

The top text line should be bold and contain the full (official) name of the item. This does not need to match the article's Wikipedia title. It should not contain a link. Avoid {{{PAGENAME}}} as pages may be moved for disambiguation.

From Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Article titles, headings and sections:

If possible, an article title is the subject of the first sentence of the article...

From Wikipedia:WikiProject Stations:

The lead paragraph shall include the name of the station as it appears on the system map, and not a short-hand name, but those can and should be mentioned later.

The article title is taken to conform with the other articles (e.g. Montgomery, where on Wikipedia it is denoted as "Montgomery Street") —Kurykh 02:47, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

meh fuck it i don't care that strongly it just looks ugly. so uh hey would you check out the Hercules (Amtrak station) i just created? i'm working on the new stations of the capitol corridor line now.Myheartinchile (talk) 03:00, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Uh, the Capital Corridor already has all of its articles. —Kurykh 03:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Templates

Next time when you edit templates, please remember to check if you're breaking them. For example, on Template:S Castro Shuttle, you inadvertently created a gaping hole on the line of images with the inclusion of the end of the T line (which wasn't necessary anyway). There's detail, but workability of the templates come first. They do have limitations, and can't accommodate all details. —Kurykh 17:03, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Melora Creager

Um, I think you gave the wrong AfD nomination for Melora Creager. They're not a cello player. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 02:29, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your DYK nom

While you have done great job expanding the article, the ref provided doesn't mention that being the first direct rail-to-ferry connection on the bay. If you can't find a ref for that, you may want to revise your hook. Thingg^⊕⊗ 14:16, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that's verifiable. :) Hook verified. Thingg^⊕⊗ 23:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

creating red links

Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test on the page Template:STD/STI worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use the sandbox. Thank you.David Ruben ^Talk 23:23, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 19 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hercules Station & Terminal, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 02:35, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Route map templates

On most of those maps there is a link to the guidelines, Wikipedia:Route diagram template, but it doesn't say much, and there's also the pictograms catalog, Wikipedia:Route diagram template/Catalog of pictograms. Sorry if I say anything you knew already. fiddling around with | lines is usually the best way to get good aesthetics. Tlantanu (talk) 03:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I think the integral part of route ferry icon means that everyone leaves the train and goes onto the ferry, or the train itself goes onto the ferry. the icon is for connecting ferries. One of the things I notice was that the icons didn't match up when there were 2 icons on the same row. try to start the line with {{BS3|| instead of {{BS2| (note the number of lines) this will make the symbols match up. keep up the edits. Tlantanu (talk) 16:49, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

help

{{help}} I need help with Birds Landing, California.^MY♥_INchile 00:10, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

never mind.^MY♥_INchile 00:44, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of vandlaism

Tagging an article like you did in Salesian High School (Richmond, California) making it unreadbale can also be construed as vandalism. I'm going to revert your chnages again. Take it to the talk page. Philly jawn (talk) 23:07, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Altamont

Because you misspelled the title -- it is now at Template:Altamont Commuter Express (you typed "Tamplate"). NawlinWiki (talk) 00:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Precita Eyes DYK

On 23 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Precita Eyes, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Congratulations! PeterSymonds (talk) 21:14, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

It was reviewed by a few other DYK regulars, and found to be a derivative work and therefore non-free (see the comment by Daniel Case on my talk page). Wikipedia does not allow non-free images on the Main Page, so the hooks were reorganised. Hope this helps. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 21:32, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

July 26 DYK

On 26 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Birds Landing, California, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford ^Pray 07:22, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

at afd

Please dont use the + and - symbols at afd -- there are other places where they are used, but not here. just bold face is clear enough. It's clearer for us admins if everyone contributes in the usual way. DGG (talk) 01:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

AfD formatting

Re Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spencer Roloson Winery, please don't emphasize your comments over others by inserting graphics. Just use bullet points like everyone else.

The discussion resulted in deleting them as G4, [4] But the discussion did also explain why yu reasonably used then--they apparently are used in esWP.DGG (talk) 08:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Also, please read the AfD proposal carefully and reconsider your position. This article is about a small start-up, having none of the qualities you mention in your comment. ~Amatulić (talk) 03:23, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Maxterbation

Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages such as Maxterbation, to Wikipedia. Doing so is not in accordance with our policies. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Vianello (talk) 05:08, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

"Maxterbation Guy"

Plase stop posting the picture of the "Maxterbation Guy" on every page you can find...That picture is very low quality and not every article needs a picture. Many articles already have many high quality pictures and many more high quality pictures on that same topic that are in the Wikimedia Commons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spikydan1 (talk • contribs) 17:36, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

"R" Is for Ricochet

Your AfD nomination has me puzzled. How does this "substantiate" any other article on Wikipedia? This book is part of the notable "alphabet" series from Sue Grafton, who is without a doubt a notable author. There're two valid sources in the article already, and all of her other "alphabet" books have a page, so why did you single this one out? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• Okay. I still think it calls for a speedy close, as I can't imagine any of her alphabet books being non-notable. The series as a whole has received a ton of publicity, and some of the pages are fairly detailed, so I would imagine that you could write long articles on every book in the series. I'm pretty sure all of these have nicked the Best Sellers list at some point. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:20, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• That's okay. Just keep in mind that if the author is notable, their works are almost certainly notable as well. A merge of her books would be out of the question — there're 20 of them, so it would make for one huge article. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• It's not my logic, it's just common outcomes. All of Grafton's novels have sold about equally well, so they're on pretty much even footing though their articles seem to be varied. If you think the articles need improvement, I'd say tag them with {{expand}}. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Cogent commentary

Thank you for the lovely message. I am glad you enjoyed my observations -- I don't insult people on Wikipedia (not intentionally, at least) and I try to give praise where it is due. And I have seen and enjoyed your input to the project, so I am glad that I could pay tribute to your offerings. I love the Bay Area -- I was in San Francisco last month and will be back there in October (it is my favourite U.S. city). Please feel free to stay in touch. Ecoleetage (talk) 03:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I remember crossing paths with you in some AfD discussions (the name rings a bell, since I knew some people who emigrated to Chile and that is why I recalled you). I've also seen your DYK honours, which are impressive. I go to the Bay Area for a combination of business and pleasure. I usually like to ramble about and see where my feet take me (no agenda travel). Ecoleetage (talk) 03:38, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

It is a fine-looking article. I might suggest combining the two political sections and perhaps moving the demographics section further up the piece. I saw a couple of places where copy editing might help, but I would only swing me axe with your permission (you clearly put a lot of work into this and I don't want to stick my thumbprints in without your OK). Ecoleetage (talk) 13:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

It seemed like political propaganda and not an encyclopedia article. Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 21:14, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I have to revisit the article, but I cannot do it know since I need to hit the laundromat (cleaning my clothing takes priority over cleaning up articles). Will return later. Ecoleetage (talk) 21:25, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

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Pixologist rewritten

Hi, I've rewritten pixologist and encourage you to revisit Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pixologist to see if your concerns have been addressed. Please note that a name change to pixel artist is almost assured if the article is kept. Banjeboi 20:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Did you know? {{prod}} has a parameter.

Hello there. You have proposed the article [[{{{1}}}]] for deletion without providing a reason why in the {{prod}} template. You may be interested to know that you can add your reasoning like this: {{prod|Add reason for deletion here}}. This will make your reasoning show up in the article's deletion notice, and aid other editors who patrol Category:All articles proposed for deletion or WP:PRODLIST. See also: How to propose for deletion. Thanks! -- Atama^chat 22:53, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

help

{{help}}

I need help with the references at St. Mary's College High School, i can't seem to find the problem but it's all messed up and not showing the name of one of the athletes, a broken link perhaps?^MY♥_INchile 17:27, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I've fixed it. You had missed out the ending brace of the ref. ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 17:29, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:Bruener Marsh

It's definitely not a stub. To quote WP:STUB:

A stub is an article containing only a few sentences of text which is too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject, but not so short as to provide no useful information. Sizable articles are usually not considered stubs, even if they lack wikification or copy editing. With these articles, a cleanup template is usually added instead of a stub template.

Bruener Marsh may still need expanding to give more information, and it may need wikification or other cleanup, but it is considerably longer than anything that could be considered a stub. Grutness...wha? 02:55, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

wet wipe markers

Yeah, I'd say bopth of those are still stubs. Keep up the good editing work - looks like you've been making good starts on several articles :) Grutness...wha? 03:54, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

At the moment it does read a bit like something you'd find oin the company's own website (which makes sense, seeing as that's where the link's to). To make it seem less advertisement like, consider the following things:

• is it a proproetary brand name? If so, say so - if not, list some of the other companies making it
• what is the history of the product? Who invented it and/or when was it first marketed?
• how does it achieve this paste-like medium - is it a mix of chalk and ink, or something different?

If you can find out those things (or even just one or two of them) and add the info to the article, it might make the article a bit longer and less like an ad. Hope that helps, Grutness...wha? 04:20, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

A lot better now - it doesn't sound biased towards one company's product, and give more information about what they're made of. Still a stub and in need of further work, but a lot better than it was when you first started it. Good work :) Grutness...wha? 02:16, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Breuner Airfield

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Breuner Airfield, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

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AfD nomination of Breuner Airfield

I have nominated Breuner Airfield, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Breuner Airfield. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Toddst1 (talk) 23:22, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Breuner Airfield AfD.

I got your back in that one. Good luck in winning that bad faith AfD. Ecoleetage (talk) 01:31, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Bad faith? Is that what he told you? Go look at the edit histories for yourself. The Breuner Airfield page had insufficient refs to stand on its own from the start. I tried to help at first but couldn't find other independent refs. I put a notability tag on the page, but he just removed it. I gave up helping when User:Myheartinchile started an edit war over the category and list for Bay Area airports, continuously acting contrary to the criteria already listed on the page. He even started making edits to the criteria without any dialog on the talk page. Do you really have sympathy for that behavior? I had no alternative but to bring it to the attention of admins, because repeating these reverts would run against the three-revert rule. It was biting a hand that was trying to feed him (or more directly, driving away and attacking a volunteer who was trying to help.) One admin gave the assistance I requested by reverting the changes to the airport list & category. Another admin reviewed Breuner Airfield and determined it didn't have refs to justify notability and gave it an AfD nom - he said it would have qualified for speedy delete but did a prod and AfD to give the author the benefit of the doubt. If he claims this is bad faith, it's just sour grapes because things haven't gone the way he wanted - he needs to review his own actions first and not forget to assume good faith about others. Brushing aside established conventions predictably results in other editors acting to restore them. Ikluft (talk) 15:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

For my Chilean pal: Isn't life fun? :) Ecoleetage (talk) 23:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:Hakha-Chin language

Yup. Good job on that. --I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 18:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Breuner Marsh

 Done Great job. Thingg^⊕⊗ 01:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Very nice. An excellent job. I trust you will appreciate the additional copyedits. It would be nice if someone could expand the article and include, for example: what were the main products (sofas? beds? tables? chairs?); why was the store sold in the 1970s? what caused it to go out of business? Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 23:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Typo redirect Hot carl

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Hey, now I need your input...

I have an article that was put up for AfD: [5]. Please take a look and see if you feel it deserves to stay. Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 14:00, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Hot Carl help

{{help}}

I would like to recreate the page Hot carl as a redirect to Coprophilia.^MY♥_INchile 23:04, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

• There's nothing stopping you. Do it if you want. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 23:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

{{help}}

yes there is, its been blocked from re-creation dude.^MY♥_INchile 23:10, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

• Hot Carl doeesn't seem to be protected although it has been deleted a lot. I'll just go ahead and make the redirect for you. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 23:16, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

• I'm not even close to being an admin, actually. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 23:26, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

• Hot carl with a lowercase C is locked. The one I made was with an uppercase C. Also, I did just run for RfA, but it crashed and burned so I pulled it. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:28, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikiproject Correction and Detention Facilities

Thanks for your expression of interest in Wikipedia Prisons, otherwise known as Wikiproject Correction and Detention Facilities. Seven people have now indicated here that they would like to help out so I am now assuming that this project will actually happen. I suppose we need to take care of a few preliminaries: getting through the proposal stage, and creating a wikiproject page, page tag, and maybe an infobox. Thanks again for your interest. --Cdogsimmons (talk) 00:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Forum-shopping for miscategorizing Breuner Airfield as an airport

Please stop forum shopping to try to get Breuner Airfield into lists and categories of airports. Proof by assertion is not an acceptable method of finding consensus on Wikipedia. I've observed you posting the same or similar suggestions in Talk:Breuner Airfield, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Breuner Airfield, Talk:List of airports in the San Francisco Bay Area, Category talk:Airports in the San Francisco Bay Area, Category talk:Airports in the United States by state , Category talk:Airports in California and Talk:List of private-use airports in California. Yes, you've made it clear that you want to call Breuner Airfield an airport. You're entitled to your opinion. You have received and ignored answers from myself and other editors (some of whom are admins who responded when I asked for help dealing with this situation) saying that calling Breuner Airfield an airport is inappropriate, absurd and nonsense, among other responses. The Third Opinion that you solicited determined that "If it's in the US and the FAA doesn't call it an airport, it's not an airport." I have provided links to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Airports#Creation_Checklists showing that the WikiProject Airports uses the standard of starting with a ICAO, IATA and/or FAA airport code as the first step in creating any airport article - and the consensus there is that even just having an airport code alone is not enough to make an airport notable. Breuner Airfield is a model airplane field and it does not have any airport registration at all. Please accept the feedback of the Wikipedia community that it is inappropriate to pursue calling Breuner Airfield an airport. Please cease and desist from further edits and arguments to add it to lists of airports or enter it into any airport categories. Ikluft (talk) 00:08, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikiproject Correction and Detention Facilities Update

As you can see, this project has now taken off. Thanks for your support!--Cdogsimmons (talk) 01:28, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Hakha-Chin language

On 17 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hakha-Chin language, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Congratulations! PeterSymonds (talk) 00:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey, congrats on this! Good show! Also, I am glad to see the Breneur Airfield merged into that other article -- at least the subject is still on the site. Cheers! Ecoleetage (talk) 12:05, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

LGBT culture

Hi, Myheartinchile!

I'm a little worried about the category you created: Category:LGBT topics in the San Francisco Bay Area. There are no other categories like this, so you're "breaking new ground" by creating it. Not necessarily a bad thing, just one that should be done thoughtfully :)

I've started a discussion on the category here and invite you to participate. And to join the WikiProject, if you wish :) Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 19:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Myheartinchile, welcome to WikiProject LGBT Studies! We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles regarding lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) and intersex people. LGBT Studies covers people, culture, history, and related subjects concerning sexual identity and gender identity - this covers a lot of ground and your help is appreciated! Some points that may be helpful: Our main aim is to help improve articles, so if someone seeks help, please try to assist if you are able. Likewise feel free to ask for help, advice or clarification. Many important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page; it is highly recommended that you watchlist it. If you have another language besides English, please consider adding yourself to our translation section, to help us improve our foreign LGBT topics. The project has several ongoing and developing activities, such as article quality assessment, peer review and a project-wide article collaboration, all of which you are welcome to take part in. We also have a unique program to improve our lower quality articles, Jumpaclass, so please consider signing up there. If you're going to stay awhile, please create a square in our project quilt! You can put anything you want in it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you. And once again - Welcome!

-- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 00:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Rich Harden

You're right, I should have suggested, but it's all good —Preceding unsigned comment added by Silversword55 (talk • contribs) 01:35, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikiproject Correction and Detention Facilities update

I am pleased to announce that the assessment function is now in operation!--Cdogsimmons (talk) 05:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject LGBT studies Newsletter

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Best wishes for the season

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49ers

Please changing your category to Category:San Francisco 49ers fans. Thank You. --WeezleBeezle (talk) 20:44, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Visconti Triplets

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no authentic sources supporting the fairly unusual claim of the article, only sourced information comes from a porn marketing site that fails WP:RS. Surprisingly low number of Google hits, given the expected pornspam.

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WikiProject LGBT studies Newsletter (June 2009)

• Newsletter delivery by xenobot 17:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Lord Chaitanya knows everything that happens in all three phases (past, present, and future, of time. He knows that in the future some demoni people will serve Lord Advaita.

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They will refer to Lord Advaita by the name "Shri Krishna". In this way they will reject the words of the true Vaishnavas.

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These sinners will thus disobey the devotees who affirm that Advaita is "the greatest Vaishnava".

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Many persons will consider themselves the followers of Lord Advaita, but they will not have the power to see how in the future they will be punished.

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Lord Chaitanya, the crest jewel of they who know everything, knew all this. Therefore He did something to try to stop this from happening.

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By punishing His mother, Lord Chaitanya showed the result that comes from offending Lord Advaita or any other Vaishnava.

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No one can protect a person who has offended a Vaishnava.

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Therefore one should avoid persons who offend Vaishnava.

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One should avoid an offender, even if the offender is otherwise very qualified. A little association with an offender will make one fall down.

Text 131

Who has the power to understand why the Lord gives punishment? By punishing His mother, He taught everyone.

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Anyone who blasphemes they who use the word `Vaishnava" to address Lord Advaita will be punished. He will perish.

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Lord Chaitanya is theSupreme Personality of Godhead, the master of all. To be called His follower is very great praise.

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Without any intention to deceive, Lord Chaitanya openly said that Lord Nityananda is the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself.

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By Lord Nityananda's mercy I know Lord Chaitanya. By Lord Nityananda's mercy I know the Vaishnavas.

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By Lord Nityananda's mercy offenses are destroyed. By Lord Nityananda's mercy one attains devotion to Lord Vishnu.

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Blasphemy directed to Lord Nityananda's servants never enters my mouth. Day and night I happily sing Lord Chaitanya's glories

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I carefully serve Lord Nityananda's devotees. Lord Chaitanya is the life and wealth of Lord Nityananda's servants.

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A person who has only a little good fortune will not become Lord Nityananda's servant, for Lord Nityananda's servant is able to see Lord Chaitanya.

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Anyone who hears this story of Lord Visvarupa becomes a servant of the limitless Supreme Personality of Godhead. He feels that Lord Nityananda is his very life.

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Lord Nityananda and Lord Visvarupa do not have different bodies. This Mother Saci knew. Some other great souls also knew.

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Glory to Lord Nityananda, who takes shelter of Lord Chaitanya! Glory, glory to Lord Nityananda, who is thousand-faced Ananta Sesha!

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O Lord Nityananda, O king of Gauda-desa, glory to You! Who can attain Lord Chaitanya without first attaining Your mercy?

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Anyone who loses Lord Nityananda will not be happy in this life.

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Will I some day see Lord Chaitanya, Lord Nityananda, and their associates all thogether in one place?

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Lord Chaitanya is my master. With great faith and hope I meditate on Him within my heart.

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I bow down before Lord Advaita's feet. I pray that he will always be dear to me and that He will always stay in my thoughts.

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The two moons Shri Krishna Chaitanya and Shri Nityananda are my life and soul. I, Vrindavana dasa, sing the glories of Their feet.