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June 9

Model release required?

I read the page at WP:Uploading images, which discusses determing copyright/licencing needed to upload an image. If the picture is of a person, is a Model release also required? The image upload page doesn't mention it. I know legal advice is not allowed, but it seems that this falls under the same umbrella as licencing/copyright, so hopefully someone can answer the question. RudolfRed (talk) 03:14, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

It would probably be best to ask the copyright specialists at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions; someone there should be able to give you an answer and point you at the policy to support it. Karenjc 17:53, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I can't search my new article

Hello,

I recently made an article days ago and clicked save changes. For the past days, I tried to type the heading of the article in the search box, but it doesn't appear. Did i miss a process here? Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.177.158.157 (talk) 03:43, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Without knowing the title of the article, this is your only recent edit at this IP address. If you saved it from another address, its talk page would have received the deletion notice, and you'd have a red link where the article title was. Even if correctly saved, it might take days for the search filter to catch it, although you could still go directly there. Dru of Id (talk) 04:03, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

It could also have been saved in a namespace not searched by default. We really need the page name, or a user name or IP address to find it. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:03, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Policy about vandalism

I am worried about the user Dilek2 who is distorting and threading misinformation into articles concerning Ottoman history. Tags have existed for many months asking for references etc, which, however, are never provided. See the Prens Sabahattin entry, for instance, claiming that there are diaries lost in World War II that only exist in "photocopies" pointing to Prens Sabahattin's bisexuality. Can I just remove misinformation -- or could perhaps somebody more experienced review Dilek2's articles Proche-O (talk) 04:01, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

If a tag requesting references has existed for months then you can probably assume that no reference is soon to emerge. Best practices suggest that you should perform at least a perfunctory check on the internet (google, yahoo, bing, etc.) to see if there are any reliable sources that can be used to back up this information, but if not then you can remove the information yourself. If sources do exist and they have at least the color of reliability then the material must be discussed prior to removal. If you are concerned that an editor is inserting subtle vandalism into articles then he should be warned and if the problem persists, you can report the problem to WP:AIV. -Thibbs (talk) 18:00, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Actress in the movie Prometheous

The main actress in the movie is actually from Iceland. She was born and raised there. Your info say Sweeden. I just saw her on a talk show and she told the host. The movie was filmed there. Noomi Rapace is her name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.2.126.10 (talk) 04:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

All the online sources I can find all say she was born in Sweden and then moved to Iceland at a young age, which agrees with the article Noomi Rapace. RudolfRed (talk) 05:16, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

First time creator...thank you

I just wanted to "thank" those who helped make some corrections on typos, and unnecessary sentences. The page "Cathy Segal-Garcia" is my first try at submitting anything to Wikipedia. Is there a way to send a Thank You note? signed Redlippedlady Redlippedlady (talk) 06:18, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Have you seen the heart icon that appears at the top of someone's talk page? That is for Wikilove and is the best way to leave a thank you note. Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:39, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Alternately you could leave a {{Wikithanks}}. :-) benzband (talk) 12:07, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Creating an article

I hope ive got to the right place - i can't make head or tail of how to navigate this wikipedia - it's very old fashioned - it took me ages just to find out how to get to the spot so I can ask a question! How do I create and article - it keeps sending me in circles! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karenjackman2010 (talk • contribs) 12:28, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I added a header to your question to separate it from the one above. You've asked another one immediately below, and I have replied there. Karenjc 13:53, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

hello?

HI there I just asked a question and it didnt show up argh! Please help - why is it so complicated to create an article??“” — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karenjackman2010 (talk • contribs) 12:30, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Karenjackman2010. Wikipedia has various criteria to which articles are expected to conform, including verifiability, notability and neutrality, to name but a few. The mechanical process of creating an article is actually pretty straightforward - Wikipedia:Your first article is a good place to find out more - but creating an article that satisfies these criteria to the extent that it will not be tagged for deletion; well, that's more difficult, particularly for a new user. Hundreds of new articles are deleted every day because they fail the criteria, or even violate policy to the extent that they cannot be salvaged. This is a shame, because many were created in good faith and represent a lot of work on the part of the creator, who may then get disillusioned and walk away from the project, which could certainly put his/her efforts to good use. The best way to start learning your way around editing Wikipedia is by improving existing articles. If you do start drafting a new article, the best format is a draft in your userspace, and I see that this is what you have done at User:Karenjackman2010/KindyNews. You seem to be on the right track there, although the draft is a long way from being ready to move into articlespace, but what jumps out at me is that the publisher on KindyNews is one Karen Jackman - is this you? If so, I'm afraid you have a very large conflict of interest and you're not the right person, in Wikipedia terms, to be writing an article on this subject. If KindyNews is notable, then a neutral someone, somewhere, will eventually write an article about it. Alternatively, you can pull together all your information and references and then ask at Wikipedia:Articles for creation for someone else to create the article, although there is usually quite a long wait there, unfortunately.

Do feel free to ask here for more advice - there is plenty of guidance for new users available on Wikipedia. Best wishes. Karenjc 13:50, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Page sources

(1) You can never use 'too many' reliable sources :) and (2) I could not find the article in question as the only article you have edited is still standing, but try putting it through articles for creation. AndieM (Am I behaving?) 15:18, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The article is at Omar al-Muqdad. It contained a massive list of all the articles the subject has written and related lists, each with a source provided. I have stubbed it, removing all this material, which has caused some consternation (see the post at my talk page here).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:27, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

"Reliable sources" here should mean "reliable sources that confirm the statements made in the article". The huge mass of material deleted by Fuhghettaboutit was not relevant for this. Maproom (talk) 09:03, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

New admission

detail process of new admission — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.168.140 (talk) 14:02, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, 117.198.168.140. I have added a header to your question to distinguish it from the others on the page. If you are asking about how to create a new article, please have a look at Wikipedia:Your first article, and see my answer on the same topic two questions above this. Karenjc 14:42, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 17:47, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

restore

is it possible for you to restore a page please i want to restore the page i deleted called foreign relations of the united states — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hollister121 (talk • contribs) 16:18, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Already  Done by LuK3 (talk · contribs). -- John of Reading (talk) 16:21, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Exact search

Hi, Is there an advanced directive that will return only exact results in Wikipedia search? I am trying to get all pages that include a publisher such as Publish America or American Biographical Institute. And this search also returns "published American", because the search engine tries to be too helpful.

I am actually using API:Search to get the number of times a publisher is used, but it seems to work the same way and gives inflated counts. Anyway, clarification will be appreciated. History2007 (talk) 16:47, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The search engine works with boolean operators so you can restrict the search from finding false positives with something like this. A Google search is easier and more exacting I think: <site:en.wikipedia.org "Publish America"> You can also restrict this to the mainspace though I won't go into that here because it doesn't look like you wanted that.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:17, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I will probably try the Google route. The Boolean route does not work in Wikisearch because I do not do the searches by hand, I have a program that generates them, and it can not know which terms to exclude. The results from API:search are easier to parse, that was why I wanted that. But I guess I will have to parse the Google results. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 08:04, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

By the way, I assume there is no way in Wikisearch to search for PublishAmerica only when WikiProject=Physics. Is there? Or where Category=Physics? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 08:17, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

The only way I know that this can be done is where the category has a sufficiently distinct name. For example, Category:Foundational quantum physics‎ can be searched by putting quotes around it (without "category:") together with a term you're looking for, say "laser": [1].--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 09:02, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Anyway, I have now almost figured it out through the program. I am doing this to generate a report of self-publisher usage in pages and the results are somewhat scary... they are all over the place. E.g. Weinberg College of Arts and Sciences states that one of its notable alumni is Louise Evans (‘49) - named 2001 International Scientist of the Year by the American Biographical Institute's 1000 World Leaders of Scientific Influence, while the page on American Biographical Institute states that its awards are "frequently denounced as scams". That is how degradation happens. I will leave you a link to the report when it is done, just FYI. History2007 (talk) 10:03, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Help getting my band onto Wikipedia (Search results)

I want to get my band onto Wikipedia so that when you google our name it will pop up in search results linked to wikipedia - how do I do this? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireflyband (talk • contribs) 18:55, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

If your band is notable then you can ask that an article be created at WP:REQ. You could also create the article yourself, but that's not recommended since you have a conflict-of-interest. RudolfRed (talk) 21:32, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The purpose of Wikipedia is to have articles covering things that reliable places have already talked about. Posting anything - a band, a company, a film, a charity - for the purpose of telling the world about it is promotion, and explicitly forbidden on Wikipedia. That is the reason for the criterion of notability that Rudolf refers to. --ColinFine (talk) 21:49, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

How do I use an image within the text, as a "character"?

I really should know this, but I don't know how to set an image inline with the text. What wiki markup and image size should I use?T3h 1337 b0y 19:15, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Assuming that you mean something like this clock—C—you would use the same markup and usually a 20px sizing. 71.146.10.213 (talk) 04:18, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Publishing an article that is meant to be viewed from a link within a major article

Hello,

I have written an article on a minor battle of WWII and intend that article to be accessed from a link in a major article about the campaign of which the minor battle formed a part. How do I achieve this end? When I submit my article, will reviewers assume it is supposed to be a stand-alone piece? It could stand on its own, but it really is meant to shed light on a minor engagement of note in the opening days of the Battle of the Bulge. Is there some way I can post for review and let reviewers know my aim? I don't feel I can go forward with my submission until I have more information to go on. Many thanks...

Steve Wheeler July5ly (talk) 20:08, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

All articles are expected to stand on their own, and meet the relevant requirements of notability, referencing etc. The only other option is to make it a section in an existing article. --ColinFine (talk) 21:51, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

You can add {{Campaignbox Battle of the Bulge}} to show the context but as Colinfine says, the article should stand on its own. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:20, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

In the article on the larger battle, if there is a section that discusses the minor battle in summary, that the article you submit sheds more light on, you can add to that section {{Main|Name of discrete article}}. This will produce a note in the form:

Main article: Link to other article

--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:34, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

removing flags from edited page

If I correct the issues for which a Wikipedia page has been flagged, is there a process I go through to have the flags removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmasiulewicz (talk • contribs) 20:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

No. If you believe that the issue has been corrected, you may remove the tag. (Of course, other editors might not agree with you). --ColinFine (talk) 21:53, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Movie quotes

I've visited the page before, but it escapes me at this time. What is the guideline that discourages adding movie quotes to articles? Thanks, SwisterTwister talk 21:05, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Not sure of one specifically for movies, but you can look through WP:MOSQUOTE, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Film, Wikipedia:Quotations (an essay), and WP:COPYOTHERS. If you are referring to having a section in a film article devoted to bulleted quotes from the film, like IMDb and Wikiquote has, I think what keeps those out is a need for reliable sources providing enough prose for the Wikipedia article on a given (non-iconic) quote. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 06:21, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Finding a (hopefully) published Wiki Page "the National Capitol Radio & Television Museum"

Hi

I created a Wiki page earlier this week. Over four days have passed and I believe the page and account have all been approved. I can not find the page I created though, called "The National Capitol Radio & Television Museum". I am wondering if I mis-categorized the page or did not properly publish the page.

Thanks for any insights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radiomuseumbowie (talk • contribs) 21:36, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

You have entered the text in your user page: I have moved it to a subpage of your user page, so you can find your text at User:Radiomuseumbowie/National Capitol Radio & Television Museum. When the article is ready for release you will need to move itto National Capitol Radio & Television Museum (which currently appears as a red link, because the page does not yet exist. (Note: do not move it to [[Wikipedia:National Capitol Radio & Television Museum]] - this is a common error).

However, do not attempt to move it yet: it is nowhere near ready. The major problem is that there are as far as I can see no references at all to independent reliable sources. Without these, the article does not establish that the museum is notable, and it is likely to get deleted. Less serious, but a major impediment to anybody trying to read it, is that you have attempted to format the article using a completely different system from Wiki-markup. You need to change it to use the proper markup.

Incidentally, there is no concept of "approval", unless you specifically ask for review. Anybody may edit (almost) anything on Wikipedia. I suggest you read your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 22:06, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

template section

Hi - I want to add a POV template to a section - not the whole article - please help - regards - Youreallycan 21:43, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Use {{POV-section}} RudolfRed (talk) 22:35, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Error on Bernie Sanders Page

I noticed an error on your Bernie Sanders page on the right hand side of the page (as I am looking at it). Under his picture you state he is a United States Senator. Further down in the "summary" you show him as a member of the US House of Representative. He can't be both. He is, in fact, a United States Senator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.113.229.231 (talk) 21:47, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The infobox at Bernie Sanders is referring to the person he replaced, Jim Jeffords, who is now in the House. RudolfRed (talk) 22:43, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Bernie Sanders
Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Vermont's At-large district
In office January 3, 1991 – January 3, 2007

I'm not sure which part you refer to but I guess it's the one to the right. Note it says "In office" with a period ending in 2007. It does not claim he is still there. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:52, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Citing what I've added.

You are probably asked this a lot, but how do I properly cite what I add or change? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chainsfan85 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

See Referencing for Beginners RudolfRed (talk) 22:41, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

June 10

harsh, delayed messages displayed indefinitely

In march I inserted a link that I thought was relevant to the section it was under, and misunderstood the nature of Wikipedia, thinking it would simply be deleted if it was found unuseful. Sorry if that was rude. I received a bunch of messages that didn't show up until some time after I was blocked, and when I read them now I worry that they could be seen. They contain a harsh tone that I would certainly have heeded if I had seen them in real time. Is there a way to have them removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.77.177.189 (talk) 02:35, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

If you aren't going to readd the links don't worry about it. If you are worried about the messages, you can blank your user talk page as that information is old. GB fan 02:51, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, the messages were intended to inform you that you had broken some of Wikipedia's editing rules. As long as you remember not to repeat these previous mistakes, that's fine! You are free to delete the messages from your talk page (doing so supposes that you have read an acknowledged them). benzband (talk) 17:08, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

delete account

can you please delate this accound thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musikkille (talk • contribs) 02:57, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

See WP:RTV. - Purplewowies (talk) (How's my driving?) 04:39, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Sorry accounts can not be deleted. This account has made edits to the encyclopedia and those edits must be attributed to an account. You can request to vanish. This would entail your account being renamed and links from this account to the new account name would be removed so the two accounts aren't easily connected. GB fan 04:43, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

{{Cite JSTOR}}

Does anybody know why the Cite JSTOR template hasn't done anything on Vincent Price (educator)? Ryan Vesey Review me! 03:11, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I even tried "Jumping the queue". Ryan Vesey Review me! 03:13, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

See the discussion here. It is not clear from the description which bot is supposed to act on that template. I don't know whether Citation bot handles it or whether there is another bot. User:Citation bot#Function doesn't mention {{Cite jstor}} at all. I suggest to bring this up at WP:BON. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:35, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I left a note there. Ryan Vesey Review me! 17:12, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Unsure of how to flag an article for improper form

There are two edits to the Bit_(money) page that are not in proper wikipedia form. Unfortunately I do not know the correct way to flag the article and I do not know the appropriate "style violation." Both edits include discussion of the article in the actual article. I am not sure what the author of edit #1 is disagreeing with, nor can I find what was deleted and it is not clear why he author of edit #2 thinks the article is up for deletion.

I hope this is the appropriate place to ask for advice and/or ask for a review. I apologize that I could not be of more help.

Edit #1: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bit_%28money%29&diff=493716850&oldid=493716600

Edit #2: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bit_%28money%29&diff=493716600&oldid=493533640

DouglasCalvert (talk) 06:13, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Both the edits above were added by the same user (166.249.131.162), I think they are requesting that section be deleted because they don't think its relevant to the article. I have moved the parts of that section that seem to be discussion of the content to the talk page and maybe someone with more knowledge of the subject will take a look at it and address the IPs concerns. Sarahj2107 (talk) 13:36, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Help needed with project banner code

I've posted information on a change needed to the WP:ships banner on the banner talk page. Personally I haven't a clue how to code this change hence the help request. TIA. Brad (talk) 07:26, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Sign

Is there a script or something to remind us to sign our posts on talk pages? Roshan220195 (talk) 08:19, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

If you want, you can go to 'My preferences' in the uppermost row, 'Editing', and check Advanced option 'Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary'. Dru of Id (talk) 08:25, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, answered the question I thought I saw. Dru of Id (talk) 08:33, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

You could add {{YesAutosign}} to your userpage or usertalk page, and SineBot will sign for you if you forget. ^Avic_ennasis @ 08:59, 20 Sivan 5772 / 08:59, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

You could only edit Wikipedia while in a giant skinner box and hire someone to wear a white lab coat and reward or punish you when you remembered or forgot to sign.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 09:12, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Sackett

Hello!

The article on the Sackett family name, and the associated books by Louis L'Amour incorrectly states that the Sacketts are a fictional family. The books are fiction, though they are based on family journals, so the path of the Sacketts at the very least is verifiable. Further, as we are a real family, I resent that we are labeled as fictional. There have been Sacketts or Sackett anscestors in this country at the very least since the founding of Virginia.

Please rectify this. The Sacketts are not a fictional family, nor are we extinct. We are well over 200 strong in surname alone, much stronger if you number the descendants of this very American, very alive and well Clan.

Thank you,

Rob Sniffin (Paternally descended from the O'Sniffins of Cork County Ireland, Maternally a Sackett, desceneded from the Reeves family) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.18.103 (talk) 09:06, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

The article Sackett is about the fictional family. The article Sackett (surname) discusses the actual surname. ^Avic_ennasis @ 09:47, 20 Sivan 5772 / 09:47, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I have added a note to the top of Sackett:

For the real surname, see Sackett (surname).

PrimeHunter (talk) 09:50, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps Sackett should be moved to Sackett family?--ukexpat (talk) 16:49, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I have donated money to Wikipedia...

...and after my donation, I then created my account. Is there any way I can have my $5 donation show up under my contributions?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skimino78 (talk • contribs) 13:29, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

That is not what we mean by "contributions" here! Your contributions to Wikipedia consist of the edits you have made, the files you have uploaded, the articles you have written; not the money you may have donated to the Wikimedia Foundation. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:40, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

You can show that you are a donor by placing the code {{User wikipedia/Donor}} or {{User wikipedia/DonorWM}} on your user page User:Skimino78. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:00, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Several things

Hi,,My question is about several things.First how do you edited a ,open page,,in my case,coca tea and coca,,,with verifiable laws,referrence numbers to find said laws,and ,new knowledge about this argricultural product,also 100 percent verifiable,,without someone deleting it who never ever took the time to actualy look up said laws,verifiable information,just delete it because they could.Second,if there is a dispute,which there obviously is,why I still dont know,,again no-one but the department of justice for the united states of america can make laws,,,but if there is a dispute,,,how do I get someone to actually look up said laws quoted,to verify this proper information so it is not deleted again,cause no-one has as of yet,except 1 person,something like copenhagen,ie user name.3rd this information is vital to the united states public,as drug testing has literally now a days in the united states is the difference between life and death if someone will succeed in life there.So how do I get this 100 percent lawful,verifiable information on this product listed on your wikipedia site into the article as the ,new verifiable knowledge it is?4th I gotta say,for me,,wikipedia is the most confusing site I have ever enter,,,anyway to make it a little less confusing?Also ,for me,,since it has been soooooo confusing to use,,Is there anyway to actually be more concerned about the verifiable knowledge,then how it get into the article.My point here is I really thought wikipedia was about knowledge for the people by the people,but in this case it appears to be more about how the knowledge gets to the public.I have tried several times to try and stick to the information and knowledge only.However several times it appeared to be more about ,you didn't do y to get to z,,,like I said earlier,wikipedia for me is way to confusing,but also to me this knowldge is vital to the public,thus more important then ,how it get in the article as long as it all is verifiable laws and knowledge.Thank you paita — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paitalona (talk • contribs) 14:45, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

There are already discussions regarding your edits at Wikipedia:Help desk#Definition of censorship and several pages linked there. Starting another discussion here does not seem productive. Let me just point out that articles don't mention everything that is verifiable. Editors of an article choose which verifiable things to include, and below the edit box it says "If you do not want your writing to be edited, used, and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here." PrimeHunter (talk) 15:21, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I think there is some confusing here,again,of course I welcome the information given to be used,re-distrubuted,it is very useful knowledge,so I don't know where that came from.Again,I am responding to your comment,,,,my question again is,if someones wants to delete something simply because they can,is there a place to verifiy all information before anyone deletes it?Does someone actually verify the knowledge in the article before they delete it?paita — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paitalona (talk • contribs) 15:22, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

time difference in roza iftikar

i want to know that if there is time difference between opening of roza on the ground floor and the top floor of the world tallest building burj khalifa. if there is difference how much is it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.96.100.198 (talk) 15:55, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand exactly what your question is but I do know that it is not a question about how to use Wikipedia. That is the purpose of this page. You probably need to go to the reference desk. That is the area of Wikipedia that answers questions about things other than how to use Wikipedia. GB fan 16:14, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

If you are thinking of gravitational time dilation then "Time Moves Faster Upstairs, Confirming Einstein's Relativity" says: "The world's tallest building is about 850 meters (half a mile) tall," said Alan Kostelecky, who studies relativity at Indiana University in Bloomington. "If you lived there for a million years, the difference would be a few seconds."

If this is about when muslims consider sunrise to have occurred for the purpose of fasting then I don't know how or whether they precisely define things, but from a tall vantage point you would generally see the Sun earlier. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:35, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

inaccurate link for Tony Osborne on this wiki page Black Gunn (1972)

inaccurate link for Tony Osborne on this wiki page Black Gunn (1972). Tony Osborne is not Anthony "Tony" Osborne[1] (July 13, 1926 – August 27, 2010) was an American professional wrestler who wrestled under the name "Tough" Tony Borne. but a music creator Thanks, Tommy Carl — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.216.8.94 (talk) 16:33, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Tommy! i have removed the link. benzband (talk) 17:00, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

search

why i cant find the page i created in Google search ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumdo_%28illusionist%29 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Domdom18 (talk • contribs) 16:33, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

The page Mumdo (illusionist) has been deleted. benzband (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

What to do with unused user sandbox page?

I came across this user subpage: User:RLHobbs/sandbox. It looks like the user is a school student whose group was given the task of improving the candy article, with feedback from their professor. The improvements were added to the candy article at the end of March, and other Wikipedia editors have since built upon them. This user subpage hasn't been edited in over two months now, nor has User:RLHobbs edited anything in that time either. What should be done with this page? JIP | Talk 17:09, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Unused sandboxes don't hurt anything. If you really want to, you could take it to WP:MFD under WP:STALEDRAFT - but it's probably best to just blank the page and move on. ^Avic_ennasis @ 18:12, 20 Sivan 5772 / 18:12, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Normally only User:RLHobbs has the right to have it deleted. However if the page violates the rules regarding userspace content it may be deleted by someone else. The first option would be to post a message on User talk:RLHobbs asking them if they might request deletion. Roger (talk) 18:15, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

How to cite this book

If a book is a translation of another book from another language, which parameters of {{cite book}} should I use for the title and author of the original book? The book in question is this one. Or is it sufficient to list Adamson, Lemmermeyer and Schappacher without mentioning Hilbert? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 18:07, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

You shouldn't mention Lemmermeyer and Schappacher at all unless you're citing something from their introduction. Otherwise, use "Hilbert" and "David" in the "last" and "first" fields, "Trans. by Iain T. Adamson" in the "others" field, and the English title in the "title" field. Deor (talk) 22:06, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I guess I should clarify that I'm assuming that you're quoting and/or citing the English translation. If you have access to the original German version and you're quoting or citing that, you'd use its title and date and omit the "Trans by . . ." business. But it's difficult to see why you might want to do so when a translation is available. Deor (talk) 01:22, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Average article size

Out of curious, what is average article size represents? in this link. Thanks!Yeucongbang (talk) 18:13, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

This question was also asked at WP:RD/Humanities#Average_article_size. It's usually better to not post the same question in multiple places. RudolfRed (talk) 18:25, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Is there a problem? Is Wikipedia's policies against this? And I don't agree with you on your statement! I would say it is usually better to post the same question in multiple places, especially when someone can't the answer in the first place!Yeucongbang (talk) 19:49, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes there is a problem. The Help Desk (this page) is for asking questions about Wikipedia itself. The Reference Desks are for questions about other stuff. Posting the same question in different places is regarded as WP:Forum shopping, which is not allowed. Roger (talk) 19:57, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

You already got the correct answer at WP:RD/Humanities#Average_article_size: It's the average size of the article after edits by that user. They also told you how to test it. Instead of doing that you assumed the answer was wrong and reposted the question here without saying there were already answers elsewhere. That means you are wasting our time by making us investigate your question in the same way others have already done. It should be common sense to not do that. "Ask questions" in the box at top of both this page and the reference desks links to Wikipedia:Questions which starts: "Please choose the most appropriate place to ask your question". We are all volunteers. Perhaps you think it's better for you to get more people to spend their volunteer time examining the same question, but try to also think of others. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:49, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Setting up pictures for access on Wikimedia Commons and appropriate licensing

Would appreciate some help over assigning access to media images. I appear not to have set up an image I have just uploaded correctly as it seems not to appear when I try a search for it. I have two images which do appear against the search of 'Badgeworth buttercup' on Wikimedia Commons. The image I have just uploaded is Badgeworth_buttercup_closeup_2012.jpg and it is appearing on the page on which I have coded the link. Perhaps I have not set the access correctly or the licensing correctly? I have cleared my cache in case a local problem but no joy to date. Have a small set of photographs I would like to put up for anyone to use against the normal copyright license protection so do wish to get my routine correct to do this. What have I failed to understand or allow to happen? I notice I seem not to have chosen the same licensing as I did on the first 2 images. Sjeans (talk) 20:09, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

File:Badgeworth buttercup 2008.jpg, File:Badgeworth buttercup closeup.JPG, File:Badgeworth buttercup closeup 2012.jpg

The indexes used by the "Search" box are updated only every 24 hours or so for efficiency reasons. This has nothing to do with the licenses. Just be patient, and try again this time tomorrow. All three images have the same licenses, as far as I can see, but the two license boxes are displayed the other way round in the latest image. I don't know the reason for that, but I'm sure it makes no difference. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:03, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for this information - I did wonder if this might the case as it appeared my image had been uploaded. Thanks also for confirmation about the licensing. Sjeans (talk) 08:25, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Question about foreign sources

I am translating the article from Russian Wikipedia (Underground rocket). While there's a lot of English sources to claim notability, I'm not sure how to document the Russian sources. When inserting the names of journals, books, etc. and names of the articles into appropriate cite templates, should I leave them in the original language, or should I translate them? -- Wesha (talk) 20:55, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Use the original language in the cite, you can add an explanation in English as a hidden note. Roger (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

The article uses Citation Style 1— the templates have fields for translated titles; see the template documentation. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 01:33, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Not able to use wikitravel on iphone

Hello,

I am unable to view wikitravel pages on my iPhone. When trying to load a page it just continuesly shows it as loading but doesn't go through.

Works fine on my PC

As an example I've been trying to look at Swedens page.

Cheers, Brent — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.176.65.66 (talk) 22:03, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikitravel at http://wikitravel.org is one of thousands of wikis on the Internet. Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Foundation which runs Wikipedia is not associated with Wikitravel. See http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:Technical_details. You can try http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:Help instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:00, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Articles for creation/Ballyhannon Castle (aka Castlefergus).

Hi Wikipedia,

I have been working on my first article for Wikipedia, and have been excited at the prospect of its publication. Your penultimate reply to me advises that it has been deleted because it appears to infringe copyright as being a cut and paste from http://www.ballyhannon-castle.com/history.htm

I posted a question to one of your volunteers, and Houn very kindly and swiftly replied to me with how I go about obtaining the permission of the copyright owner to the publication of his work (as is posted on http://www.ballyhannon-castle.com/history.htm). I am now pursuing this as I know the author personally (he is a local historian).

In the meantime I also mentioned that I had spent many days reading your editing and formatting procedures, and posting the article for approval, but I saw that it seems to have been permanently deleted (or at least it is not visible in 'my contributions'). As I really could not afford the same amount of time writing, editing and formatting it again, I asked if I could be emailed the full (html) text of my most recent submission, so that I can either pass it on to Mr. Breen for him to attend to, or I can at least save it on my pc until such time as you have approved its submission.

Houn replied that I can ask the deleting admin (Nyttend) to provide me with the article text (probably wiki-code, not full HTML), and he also advised that 'until the permission has been obtained and confirmed, the text should not be put on Wikipedia, not even in userspace. Huon (talk) 21:54, 10 June 2012 (UTC).'

I would therefore like to ask deleting admin for this, but I can't see any options or links on Wikipedia.org to request this. I'm wondering if this question now suffices as such request, or if not, I would really appreciate if I could get the link to where I can do so.

Many thanks for all your help to date.

CorneliusWilliam (talk) 22:56, 10 June 2012 (UTC)CorneliusWilliam

You can ask at User talk:Nyttend for him to e-mail you the text of the article. Alternatively, after the author's permission has been confirmed, either by his changing the "©2004 Ballyhannon Castle Quin County Clare, Ireland" at the bottom of the web page to "Licensed under Creative Commons license CC-BY-SA" (by far the easiest way) or by sending an OTRS e-mail as explained at WP:PERMISSION#When permission is confirmed, you can post a message on User talk:Nyttend (citing the OTRS number) in which you ask him to restore the article. Deor (talk) 23:30, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Also note that the copyright problem is only one issue. Even if permission is obtained or the license of the original text changes, the tone of the text may not be appropriate for an encyclopedia, and it will still require references to other independent, reliable sources to demonstrate notability.--ukexpat (talk) 01:00, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Deor & Ukexpat,

I really appreciate your helpful replies. I logged a message with Nyttend to email me the text of the most recent draft of the article, and they have replied with it already! Fantastic, and much to my relief that I won't have to start again from scratch!

I am approaching the copyright issue from both directions you mention, namely seeking to change the "©2004 Ballyhannon Castle Quin County Clare, Ireland" at the bottom of the web page to "Licensed under Creative Commons license CC-BY-SA", as well as the author emailing in his permission/authorisation to 'permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org.

Sincere thanks again for your continued support. CorneliusWilliam (talk) 14:54, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

I am afraid that I have had to tag User:CorneliusWilliam/sandbox for speedy deletion as a copyvio of the same source material. Copyvios are not permitted anywhere, including user sandboxes. When the copyright issue has been resolved, you can recreate the draft.--ukexpat (talk) 15:20, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

I understand. Thanks Ukexpat.

June 11

JSTOR Access!

Is JSTOR giving access to their site to some Wikipedia editors for free now? --Tito Dutta ✉ 00:00, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Requests for JSTOR access. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:32, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Book search

I want to find a copy of 2 older history books, probably printed in England in the 1920-30's. How do I go about finding thrm - they have not shown uo with a "google book search" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.67.163.155 (talk) 01:03, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. RudolfRed (talk) 01:07, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Created an account at Commons... and found that I inadvertently created a new account here

I've been active on EnWiki since 2009 as User:Buffalutheran. I decided today to create an account at Commons and I inadvertently created a new account here. I don't want to be accused of being a sock, and I want to keep editing EnWiki under my old account. Is there any way that this account (the one I am using now) can be merged or deleted, without destroying my new Commons account? BuffaLutheran (talk) 01:12, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Redirect the BuffaLutheran to the original account. If you are logged into the original then visit another Wiki you should be logged in there with the same account as here. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 03:53, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Check Unified login for more information. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 03:56, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Rendering problem on New Stevenston?

Resolved

I've looked at New Stevenston in two different browsers (Safari and Firefox) and both show an odd problem with overlapping text for the coordinates above the infobox. Is it working in other browsers? If not, can someone fix it? RudolfRed (talk) 01:29, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

There were two sets of coordinates listed on the page, in the infobox and in the template at the bottom of the page. I removed the template and the overlapping has gone.Sarahj2107 (talk) 02:40, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. RudolfRed (talk) 03:03, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Can a title be changed?

I found a page with an inaccurate title. Can it be changed and keep referenced links?

is: Plane Driven PD-1 Roadable Glastar

should be: Plane Driven PD-1, roadable Glasair Sportsman

CliffGerber (talk) 02:35, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

See WP:MOVE for how to move a page to a new title. RudolfRed (talk) 03:08, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Madonna

I have posted a proposal on the Madonna (entertainer) talk page a while ago and no one responded. I then deleted said proposal and re-posted it for good measure. Yet still no one has responded. Why is this? Considering Wikipedia is said to be a place where you can "Ask questions, get answers." and "Make proposals." I believed that were true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.181.62.167 (talk) 06:05, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Are you refering to Talk:Madonna (entertainer)#Charity and Controversy? If so, it may take some time for interested people to respond, so wait a few more days. Meanwhile you can read the manual governing biographies of living people which has strict rules regarding the content allowed in articles about living people. Roger (talk) 08:04, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

General Enquiry

Hi,

Could you tell me how can i send a wikipedia to my email? I need to send someone's wikipedia to my email. Pls help.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.54.125.199 (talk) 06:43, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

If I understand correctly you want to email a copy of an article to someone. The easiest way to do that is to first download it as a pdf file - the print/export menu in the left margin has the option. Once you have the pdf file on your computer you can email it. Roger (talk) 07:57, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Alternatively, if you're using FireFox, under the "File" menu there is a "Send Link" option which will attempt to open your email program and automatically prepare an email with a link to the page you're currently looking at. Other web browsers probably have similar functionality. This is more efficient because less data needs to be sent; it also means that your recipient will see the updated version of the page, not how it looked at the time you were looking at it. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 08:02, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Inaccurate University of Wales article

Hello there,

Recently I attempted to apply edits to the largely erroneous University of Wales Wikipedia article, only to discover they'd been undone almost immediately by an editor who offered no explanation why. The fundamental change I was trying to affect in the article was to convey that the University of Wales is still fully operational, and is not "abolished", as the article in its current state would have you believe. One only has to visit the University of Wales webpage to find overwhelming evidence to support this - www.wales.ac.uk. The University is, in fact, within the next 12 months to enter into a merger with the University of Wales: Trinity Saint David and Swansea Metropolitan University.

I would therefore greatly appreciate if you could offer me any advice on how I should go about applying amendments that actually stick to the article in question. Much of the information currently displayed is not only inaccurate, but also carries the potential to cause much harm to the University of Wales brand, as well as its commercial operations, not to mention a lot of confusion and upset to prospective, current and past University of Wales students.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Do not hesitate to ask if you require further evidence to support the above.

Warm regards,

Jocelyn — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jocelyn88 (talk • contribs) 13:16, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Jocelyn88. I went to check your edits and found that the the edit you made removed a large number of references, thus violating the policy of verifiability. I hope I have addresed your issues. Thanks and regards, Dipankan ^{(Have a chat?)} 13:25, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The bulk of what you were trying to remove seemed to be supported by references which appeared to be to reliable sources. You provided no edit summary to justify your edit. I would suggest that you explain on the article's talk page why you think that the existing content is incorrect, and that you give there new references to published reliable sources to support your statements. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:28, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

The article about the post merger university is at University of Wales, Trinity Saint David. Perhaps a few hatnotes would help clear up the confusion. Roger (talk) 13:39, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Francois Lamore

Hello!

I just created a wiki page for an artist (painter, sculptor and poet), who is still alive and so I have to have reliable sources, the only web (internet) source that I have is his official website: www.francois-lamore.com, For the newspaper/magazine publications I wrote under the mention the source (like 'in Le' Figaro, by 'name of the journalist' n°80, May 31 Paris.) As I wrote in the article, he is a French-American artist, and his work is exhibited all over the globe, especially at famous Maeght Gallery in Paris, and in Beirut Lebanon. Please let me know if his official website is considered as a reliable source, Best regards, CC — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diegocc (talk • contribs) 13:59, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

I have moved the page to Francois Lamore (with the correct capitalisation), but it is likely to be deleted. One of the links you added is (as you say) the artist's own website (and therefore not independent), and the other doesn't mention him. Without published coverage in independent reliable sources, he doesn't get a Wikipedia article. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:12, 11 June 2012 (UTC)