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Note: Newer questions appear at the bottom of the Teahouse. Completed questions are archived within 2–3 days.
Need advice to improve Performance fabrics
Hello, Teahouse Greetings of the day! I am here to seek your help once again for suggestions and your kind advice forPerformance fabrics, copying here some recently exchanged messages for your immediate understanding of the concern.
Hi Roxy, appreciate your observations.i have added the required references to the chart, The basic difference between Fabric and Performance fabric is performance.which is enhanced in these fabrics. Don't hesitate to ask me again ThanksRajiv Sharma (talk) 17:44, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
I have moved this reply to Rajiv's talk page, where I opened the discussion. -Roxy, the dog. barcus 19:45, 11 August 2018 (UTC) Roxy, the dog. hello, I will add more sources, and for your queries 1. You asked ..So exactly what performance do you mean...and enhanced from what state? @@Performance, it is about the attributes of the fabrics totally opposite in a manner to achieve added functionalities (Interestingly these added attributes enhance the scope of use of those fabrics) @@enhance from what state....The added properties/performances do not belong originally to those fabrics but they are enhanced by different things see the definition.And properties of fabrics basically belongs to their origin and their polymers and polymer structure etc. But in this case, these properties are engineered to achieve added advantages. Examples of Polyester which is hydrophobic becomes water-loving(makes it useful for sportswear) and cotton is possible to behave water repel(You must have seen types of denim claiming rain guard, stain repel ) I tried to answer everything but you are welcome any time, don't stop asking, One last thing should we improve the definition part, please advise thanksRajiv Sharma (talk) 01:57, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
User:RAJIVVASUDEV, you have used a lot of words to say almost nothing. The only meaningful remark is that these fabrics purportedly make polyester hydrophilic, and cotton hydrophobic. Please address Roxy's concerns in a more direct way. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:02, 12 August 2018 (UTC) Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk)Hi let me elaborate it little more without repeating what is performance and enhancement, Performance fabrics they are purposefully manufactured to meet the conditions(sometimes extreme) with a predetermined objective. The originally owned properties of those fabrics also remain important in the whole consideration. Allow me to redefine and add some more relevant sources,Drift from Nike is a more convincing example anyway thanks, Please advise me about definition part which is revised now.Thanks again. Rajiv Sharma (talk) 02:39, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
I give up. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:49, 12 August 2018 (UTC)— Preceding text originally posted on User talk:Roxy the dog#Performance fabrics
I know my explanations are technical and not understandable easily,need your help and Roxy to improve the things,that is why we are here.I have added sources,hopefully more convincing and reliable.Please comment .ThanksRajiv Sharma (talk) 06:40, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello RAJIVVASUDEV and welcome to the Teahouse.
- I think you need to go back to the talk page of the article, at Talk:Performance fabrics and work out with other editors what sort of references should be added to the article. As best I can tell, you are inserting references that, at best, relate only tangentially to the statements that you are intending to support. If you want to improve the definition, and are finding some resistance, the talk page is also the place to put forward your suggested improvement and justify it. If you are not getting enough participation on the talk page, you may need to start an RfC or other steps to get more widespread input. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 06:55, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- RAJIVVASUDEV: the problem with your explanations of the term performance fabric is not that they're "technical and not understandable easily". It's that they're vacuous, they don't say anything.
- If someone writes of a "performance car", he's probably referring to its acceleration and top speed, and not its capacity or comfort. But I've no idea what you mean by "performance fabric". Maproom (talk) 08:02, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- @RAJIVVASUDEV: I was looking to find an article named Engineered fabrics for contrast but such a page does not yet exist. A Google search indicates that this term is frequently used for fabrics that have been treated with chemical coatings to alter their characteristics. I realize that you started the Performance fabrics page a couple of years ago, but it remains problematic. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 08:58, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- Well noted all,Thanks for your adviceRajiv Sharma (talk) 09:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
— jmcgnh @jmcgnh you are right! actually there are few things which are recently introduced in textiles like wearable technology,e-textile, And Perfomance fabrics is one of them.henceforth information,knowledge and sources are limited, and the available information is very much confusing and misleading.I sincerely want wikipedia as an authentic source of knowledge for the concerned readers.Hopefully you got my point.ThanksRajiv Sharma (talk) 10:08, 12 August 2018 (UTC) Maproom (talk)@Maproom got your point but primarily fabrics are for comfort and protection only.Please identify and inform what are the other areas to be improved except definition?ThanksRajiv Sharma (talk) 09:58, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- R - please, no bold text. What I see at the article is that you worked on it a lot in 2015, and recently (August) lengthened it significantly. I expected to see more discussion at the Talk of the article rather than individuals' Talk pages and here at Teahouse. Please be civil. Writing "I know my explanations are technical and not understandable easily" is condescending toward the people who are/were trying to help. David notMD (talk) 11:19, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
David notMD (talk) Got it,Bold was unintentional.correcting the same and for technical and all..I was never meant like that. ThanksRajiv Sharma (talk) 12:03, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- I just discovered this. -Roxy, the dog. barcus 11:43, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi Rajiv, How are Performance Fabrics different from Technical textile, which is a page detailing various forms of clothing that are not worn for aesthetic purposes, but for a function? Kindly go over that page and revert with comments. If your content improves that page, then that's better, yeah? ModerationIsTheKey (talk) 06:16, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Need Help Hi! greetings of the day, Sir i have made few revisions and improvements,Please review the same, need help how to improve further.ThanksRajiv Sharma (talk) 04:57, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- Rajiv Sharma I've moved your question from the Teahouse talk page to this page. The Teahouse talk page is for discussing things related to the running of the Teahouse; it's not really the place for posting questions such as this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:05, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- It appears that you are already discussing this at Talk:Performance fabrics#Performance fabrics with Roxy the dog. Article talk pages are usually the best places for such discussions because it makes it easier for other editors who might be interested in the subject matter to participate in the discussion. However, you need to be patient because editors occasionally get busy and might not immediately respond to your posts. Personally, although I think the changes you made were probably done in good faith, I don't think that huge image gallery you added to the article is really an improvement and actually makes the article worse than it would be without it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:15, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- Good grief. -Roxy, the dog. barcus 11:44, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- The gallery of huge photos is gone, and the article is now being mulled over at AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Performance fabrics. David notMD (talk) 20:50, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- Good grief. -Roxy, the dog. barcus 11:44, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- This question appears to be related to WP:THQ#Need advice to improve Performance fabrics. Maybe the threads should be combined? -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:03, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- I merged the two. —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 16:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- Followers on this topic may be interested in Draft:Functional clothing. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 06:09, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Oh dear me!. Does anybody know the difference between "Functional clothing" and non "Functional clothing"? -Roxy, the dog. barcus 06:54, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Functional clothing is made by Carhartt, non-functional clothing is made by Versace. David notMD (talk) 11:09, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Oh dear me!. Does anybody know the difference between "Functional clothing" and non "Functional clothing"? -Roxy, the dog. barcus 06:54, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Followers on this topic may be interested in Draft:Functional clothing. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 06:09, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Private Spaceflight, 1971 early "Project Harvest Moon" NEED A MENTOR.
I am 87 years old, was the instigator of this project, and feel it should be recorded on Wikipedia. There is a Wall Street Journal article verifying its existence, but I don't know how to upload it.
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Thanks, George Van Valkenburg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quickscan1 (talk • contribs) 22:15, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello User:Quickscan1 and welcome to the Teahouse.
- I found a couple of mentions, including this one Lost in Space: The Fall of NASA and the Dream of a New Space Age By Greg Klerkx p175 which could be the starting point for an article. This other mention, at CollectSpace.com probably can't be used. Someone with access to a newspaper database could probably track down the WSJ articles you remember. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 22:43, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello, George. I did not find the Wall Street Journal article, but I found one that mentions you,[1] a syndicated article that was picked up by many small newspapers,[2], an AP release, also widely distributed,[3] several by LaMont,[4] and a status report in November[5]. Hope these help. [LATER] All the references ended at the bottom of the Teahouse page. Sorry about that. I don't know how to move them. Someone else may help.Anobium625 (talk) 16:49, 15 August 2018 (UTC) Someone did. Thanks.Anobium625 (talk) 18:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
- This might actually be enough for a stub article. If further sources can be found, including perhaps this elusive Wall Street Journal article, this might very well be a worthwhile article to create. Anobium625, do you have external links to any of the sources you cited? Or are they all offline? —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 08:25, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- I happen to have a couple newspaper accounts (NY Times and another), so I looked for "Harvest Moon Project" in 1971 and found these articles. Anyone with a US newspaper account ought to be able to find the syndicated articles. I didn't have access to the Wall Street Journal, and I didn't look at 1972. Anobium625 (talk) 14:57, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- Nøkkenbuer Not sure what "external links" are. I have now found a dozen citations, although some overlap, and the topic is interesting, so I may create a (very) short article. For further discussion, I'll go to your Talk page. Anobium625 (talk) 15:13, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, Anobium625, "external links" is a bit of wiki jargon. By "external links", I mean URL hyperlinks to those external sources. For example, if you found the source on https://example.com/sourcing-location, that link is an external link. It can either be linked directly or linked with some markup, such as
[https://example.com/sourcing-location source 1]
, which renders as source 1.Given what you said, my guess is that they are paywalled. Nonetheless, if you have a generic URL to the paywalled source, such as one which would display as a paywall to us non-subscribers (an example would be this one, taken from Veganism), that can be helpful here. —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 15:41, 17 August 2018 (UTC)- Hello Nøkkenbuer. I have completed a draft article for Project Harvest Moon, although it still needs some editing, and I want to read Barbara Marx Hubbard's biography before I submit it. Is there any way you can look at it in my sandbox? [User:Anobium625/sandbox] Thanks. Anobium625 (talk) 02:23, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Sure, I'll review the work at your sandbox. If you don't mind, I can also make some changes to it. By the way, I refactored your post slightly by adding four colons before it. I hope you're okay with that and apologies in advance if you intended to outdent. Adding those colons threads the discussion by indenting the post, which helps improve the readability of the discussion. When doing so, be sure to mind the list gap by not adding line breaks between threaded replies (this threaded discussion thus far is how it should be done), which can cause accessibility problems for those using screen readers. —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 02:41, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, Nøkkenbuer. I didn't know about the colons, so I appreciate the information. My ego isn't involved with Harvest Moon, so make any changes in my sandbox that you think appropriate. I think I erred in adding categories, so I'm going to change them to comments for now. Anobium625 (talk) 18:51, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- To Nøkkenbuer: An update. I found an active discussion of Project Harvest Moon at <https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46196.0>. Although I had to register (no charge), I had no difficulty joining the forum, where GVV has uploaded the WSJ article, a magazine article with details of the project's experiments, and the text of Rep. Olin Teague's resolution to support the project. I'll include citations in my current draft, so don't review and revise it before tomorrow. Thanks. Anobium625 (talk) 23:56, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, Nøkkenbuer. I didn't know about the colons, so I appreciate the information. My ego isn't involved with Harvest Moon, so make any changes in my sandbox that you think appropriate. I think I erred in adding categories, so I'm going to change them to comments for now. Anobium625 (talk) 18:51, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Sure, I'll review the work at your sandbox. If you don't mind, I can also make some changes to it. By the way, I refactored your post slightly by adding four colons before it. I hope you're okay with that and apologies in advance if you intended to outdent. Adding those colons threads the discussion by indenting the post, which helps improve the readability of the discussion. When doing so, be sure to mind the list gap by not adding line breaks between threaded replies (this threaded discussion thus far is how it should be done), which can cause accessibility problems for those using screen readers. —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 02:41, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello Nøkkenbuer. I have completed a draft article for Project Harvest Moon, although it still needs some editing, and I want to read Barbara Marx Hubbard's biography before I submit it. Is there any way you can look at it in my sandbox? [User:Anobium625/sandbox] Thanks. Anobium625 (talk) 02:23, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, Anobium625, "external links" is a bit of wiki jargon. By "external links", I mean URL hyperlinks to those external sources. For example, if you found the source on https://example.com/sourcing-location, that link is an external link. It can either be linked directly or linked with some markup, such as
- This might actually be enough for a stub article. If further sources can be found, including perhaps this elusive Wall Street Journal article, this might very well be a worthwhile article to create. Anobium625, do you have external links to any of the sources you cited? Or are they all offline? —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 08:25, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
References
- ^ Nugent, Tom. "Civilians Want a Spaceship." Detroit Free Press. July 6, 1971. 1-2.
- ^ E.g. Considine, Bob. "Proposed Lunar Voyage for Public." Post Star (Glens Falls, NY). August 14, 1971. 4.
- ^ E.g. Benedict, Howard. "Rover May Receive New Life Someday." Corpus Christi Caller Times. August 7, 1971. 6A.
- ^ LaMont, Sanders. "Harvest Moon a Serious Plan." Florida Today (Cocoa, FL). September 19, 1971. 3E.
- ^ Goldwyn, Ron. "Harvest Moon Trip Backed." Dayton (OH) Daily News. November 17, 1971. 10.
Page Deleted - Shawn James - I can't find it in the Deleted Log
Hey folks, I'm a new editor here and I'm still learning / digging around. Thanks in advance for your help and patience.
I work with an music artist at my record label and we're trying to find his page. It disappeared around the beginning of 2017, apparently over a battle of sources. I searched the deleted log and couldn't find it. Are there other ways I can find it, or find the topic and re-open the conversation?
The topic/page is "Shawn James" (music artist or musician)
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukewhiteplays (talk • contribs) 20:39, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- Lukewhiteplays That must have been Shawn James & The Shapeshifters. The log entries are here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=Shawn+James+%26+The+Shapeshifters&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=thanks&wpfilters%5B%5D=patrol&wpfilters%5B%5D=tag&wpfilters%5B%5D=review --Vexations (talk) 20:51, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- But, LukeWhiteplays, before you go any further with this, please read WP:COI. It wasn't "his page", and if it ever gets created again it won't be "his page". It should be an article about him, based almost entirely on what people who have no connection with him have chosen to publish about him; and he and his associates are discouraged from editing it directly. He and his associates should not regard it as playing any role in his publicity or online presence, since they will have no control whatever over its contents. --ColinFine (talk) 23:04, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- Also read WP:PAID. The original deletion was because the article was blatant promotion, not references. David notMD (talk) 01:29, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for responding Vexations, ColineFine & David notMD. Thanks especially for the clarification on my misuse of the "his page" vernacular. Clearly that's an important distinction. I've read through the articles you suggested and found them quite helpful. However, I could use some additional clarification. Can you confirm that a page will be deleted, regardless of the relevance and non-bias nature of most of it, if some of it appears to be biased? Also, how do you make that distinction? Is it voted on by a team of your peers? Or is it considered blatant promotion because 1) it's being edited by "associates" and therefore cannot in any way be un-biased, and 2) because certain statements lack references? Thanks for your patience and time! Again, I'm new here and still learning.
- Hello again, Lukewhiteplays. Any article about a musical performer must establish clearly that the performer meets our notabilty guideline for musical performers. This must be completely convincing to editors who review the article. The majority of musical performers do not qualify. Any administrator can delete an article if no credible claim of notabilty is made. If there is genuine doubt about notabilty, then the matter can be discussed for a week or more at Articles for Deletion. People directly associated with the performer financially must complete a mandatory paid editing disclosure. This is not negotiable and should be your very next edit. Paid editors must use the Articles for creation process to write a draft for review by uninvolved editors. As for adding unreferenced content, that is never a good idea, and paid editors are held to a very stringent standard. Please read and study Your first article, and follow every step described there. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:09, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- The bias issue is about need to write in a neutral point of view. See WP:NPOV. You also have a conflict of interest that requires you comply with WP:PAID. If you do not, you risk being blocked. From WP:PAID "Editors who are or expect to be compensated for their contributions must disclose their employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any paid contributions. They must do this on their main user page, or on the talk page accompanying any paid contributions, or in edit summaries...The conflict of interest guideline further advises editors to place the
{{connected contributor (paid)}}
template at the top of the talk page accompanying any paid contributions (and to fill in the parameters), and to supply a clearly visible list of their paid contributions on their main user page. The template{{paid}}
can be used for this." — Preceding unsigned comment added by David notMD (talk • contribs) 11:28, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- The bias issue is about need to write in a neutral point of view. See WP:NPOV. You also have a conflict of interest that requires you comply with WP:PAID. If you do not, you risk being blocked. From WP:PAID "Editors who are or expect to be compensated for their contributions must disclose their employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any paid contributions. They must do this on their main user page, or on the talk page accompanying any paid contributions, or in edit summaries...The conflict of interest guideline further advises editors to place the
- Hello again, Lukewhiteplays. Any article about a musical performer must establish clearly that the performer meets our notabilty guideline for musical performers. This must be completely convincing to editors who review the article. The majority of musical performers do not qualify. Any administrator can delete an article if no credible claim of notabilty is made. If there is genuine doubt about notabilty, then the matter can be discussed for a week or more at Articles for Deletion. People directly associated with the performer financially must complete a mandatory paid editing disclosure. This is not negotiable and should be your very next edit. Paid editors must use the Articles for creation process to write a draft for review by uninvolved editors. As for adding unreferenced content, that is never a good idea, and paid editors are held to a very stringent standard. Please read and study Your first article, and follow every step described there. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:09, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for responding Vexations, ColineFine & David notMD. Thanks especially for the clarification on my misuse of the "his page" vernacular. Clearly that's an important distinction. I've read through the articles you suggested and found them quite helpful. However, I could use some additional clarification. Can you confirm that a page will be deleted, regardless of the relevance and non-bias nature of most of it, if some of it appears to be biased? Also, how do you make that distinction? Is it voted on by a team of your peers? Or is it considered blatant promotion because 1) it's being edited by "associates" and therefore cannot in any way be un-biased, and 2) because certain statements lack references? Thanks for your patience and time! Again, I'm new here and still learning.
Accident notability
what makes an accident suitable for inclution to wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rollback95 (talk • contribs) 07:56, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Rollback95: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. An accident, or any article subject, would merit an article on Wikipedia if it received significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Please see the general notability guideline. If you are attempting to write an article for the first time, you may find it helpful to read Your First Article, and use Articles for Creation to submit a draft for review, instead of directly creating an article. 331dot (talk) 08:09, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- @331dot: I believe this question might have to do with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2018 Kiryandongo bus accident. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:39, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Rollback95, since an accident is an event, the more specific guidelines are Wikipedia:Notability (events) › Mortee talk 07:55, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- @331dot: I believe this question might have to do with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2018 Kiryandongo bus accident. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:39, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Counter Vandalism Unit
Can I know more about counter vandalism academy? If i wish to learn from a trainer, how long will it take, as i mostly won't be available from next week, due to my O Levels/IGCSEs. Knightrises10 (talk) 13:57, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- Knightrises10 Greetings and welcome to Teahouse. You can go to Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit/Academy. Click on "List of available trainers" and contact the trainers as listed. I was trained and guided by Mz7 who is an extremely kind and knowledgeable instructor on counter vandalism subject. It took me more than 2 months to complete the program (I did around year end period) and believe you would able to do it much faster than I. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:18, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for informing me. I have contacted Mz7 and am looking forward for the training. Knightrises10 (talk) 15:28, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: hi, so i came to know that none of the trainers have any slot left. Isn't there any other way? Knightrises10 (talk) 11:33, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Draft Article: Deanna Kamiel
In response to the question by McLennan re third parties commenting on her work, I believe the awards section satisfies that criteria, in particular, the Guggenheim Fellowship award that she won for "Maggie and the Men of Minnesota" in 1984. Katsheron (talk) 17:59, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- The only reference in that section of Draft:Deanna Kamiel is a single line that mentions that she was a recipient of the award, Katsheron. This is not capable of establishing notability, which requires extensive material from independent sources. She may well be notable, but that section is, at present, irrelevant to it. --ColinFine (talk) 20:16, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- Sometimes accuracy is also important, and misspelling the name of a reviewer annoys the reviewer. However, I will recuse myself from any further reviews of your draft. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:38, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Unilever Philippines controversy
Look at the website: logos
- Hi Apollo C. Quiboloy fans. Unfortunately, Wikia is not a reliable source for the purposes of adding information to Wikipedia because it is largely user-generated like Wikipedia is. A reliable source would be something like a reputable newspaper/magazine (or the website of such a reputable news organization), a published book, or an academic journal. For more information on what constitutes a reliable source, please see Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. Please do not reinsert this information into the article unless you can provide a reliable source which verifies it. Thanks. Mz7 (talk) 03:48, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, it was dated 1990 to 1991 about PRC Downward Facing triangle isn't it, but look the infamous logo was believe to be Feng Shui on Philippines. Apollo C. Quiboloy fans (talk) 05:41, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Roko's Basilisk
I'd like to create an article for the fairly well-known Roko's Basilisk, but the subject has no outside thought. Is it qualified? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lightcaller (talk • contribs) 04:16, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Lightcaller: The topic is discussed at LessWrong#Roko's_basilisk, although a stand-alone article might be possible if you can demonstrate noteworthy discussion of the concept outside of LessWrong. If you're going to write an article about anyone or anything, here are the steps you should follow:
- 1) Choose a topic whose notability is attested by discussions of it in several reliable independent sources. -- A casual glance on Google does pull up sources such as this, this, and this. It is also apparently discussed in this book, although the preview won't load that part for me. I have not read the sources enough to verify that they discuss Roko's Basilisk independent of LessWrong (or at least beyond LessWrong).
- 2) Gather as many professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources you can find.
- 3) Focus on just the ones that are not dependent upon or affiliated with the subject, but still specifically about the subject and providing in-depth coverage (not passing mentions). If you do not have at least three such sources, the subject is not yet notable and trying to write an article at this point will only fail.
- 4) Summarize those sources from step 2, adding citations at the end of them. You'll want to do this in a program with little/no formatting, like Microsoft Notepad or Notepad++, and not in something like Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer.
- 5) Combine overlapping summaries (without arriving at new statements that no individual source supports) where possible, repeating citations as needed.
- 6) Paraphrase the whole thing just to be extra sure you've avoided any copyright violations or plagiarism.
- 7) Use the Article wizard to post this draft and wait for approval.
- 8) Expand the article using sources you put aside in step 2 (but make sure they don't make up more than half the sources for the article, and make sure that affiliated sources don't make up more than half of that).
- Doing something besides those steps typically results in the article not being approved, or even in its deletion. Ian.thomson (talk) 04:25, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- My personal opinion is that the subject "Roko's Basilisk" is indeed notable, justifying a Wikipedia article about it. Here's another reference you could use: https://www.livescience.com/62518-rococos-basilisk-elon-musk-grimes.html . Maproom (talk) 07:29, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
What's the procedure for improper speedy AfD closes due to nominator withdraw
I admit I probably should have been watching the AFD more closely, but Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Irfan Adelbi was closed speedily despite another editor supporting the deletion. On further review, I've found it unlikely that it would meet WP:GNG, and the keep !voters do not consider the FAQ of WP:ATH, where it explicitly says [t]he topic-specific notability guidelines described on this page do not replace the general notability guideline.
I'm a little lost as to what to do now though. Do I list this at DRV? Can I just contact the nominator? Is the nominator allowed to relist the AfD? Also, I feel kinda weird asking at the Teahouse. Is there a AfD specific question board? (Though I don't imagine one would get that much traffic, so I guess I've answered my own question on that last one.) Thanks for any advice!— Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:47, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Alpha3031, according to the instructions at DRV your first step should be to contact the closer to discuss that s/he consider reverting the close. That's the simplest way to solve the matter. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:55, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Gotcha. Just wanted to make sure it also applied to non-admin closes. Thanks. — Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:58, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Alpha3031: Since this is an obviously improper close, by the nominator rather than an uninvolved editor, there is no need to bother with a DRV. You can just undo it, which I have done. – Joe (talk) 15:14, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Gotcha. Just wanted to make sure it also applied to non-admin closes. Thanks. — Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:58, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Add a new german Label record
I want to add the german Label records Hafenbeat.com and Audioactive records of Hamburg into the list of the german independant Labels . Is it possible ? Can you do it yourself if i send you the text I want ? Or how to proceed ? Thank you N Malapelle — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gasper8 (talk • contribs) 13:40, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello, Gasper8. Wikipedia is not an advertising site. Lists of companies in Wikipedia generally only contain companies that are, or could be, the subject of a Wikipedia article; that is, companies that meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability. If the labels are new, it is very unlikely that they meet these criteria, because it is unlikely that they have yet been the subject of extensive coverage in independent reliable published sources. Please also see TOOSOON. --ColinFine (talk) 14:04, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Help
I don't understand how am I to verify information if the information I have is all I can receive and it is reliable source. Do you actually have to be with that person, home, etc...for Wikipidea to believe your story. I am writing for Draft; Hector LaTorre/Bermudez and want those who are lost in life to see how well you can make a change to society for the greatness.
Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adelsud (talk • contribs) 14:43, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- If you want to verify information, you need to cite some professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources that are about the subject.
- If you personally know the subject, then you would have a conflict of interest and should not write about the subject. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:48, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Draft:Hector Manuel LaTorre/Bermudez in no way meets requirements for a Wikipedia article. NOT what you personally know. ONLY what you can find published citations about. David notMD (talk) 16:10, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
adding a new field to infobox church
Hello,
Can some one please guide me as how I go about adding a new field to our church wiki infobox? Many thanks, Frank — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frankdoherty (talk • contribs) 21:18, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello and welcome, Frankdoherty. To add content to an article in which you have a WP:COI, you just need to post a request on the article's corresponding Talk page detailing what you'd like added using the instructions described here: Wikipedia:Simple conflict of interest edit request. To add a new parameter to the Church infobox, you need to start a discussion at Template_talk:Infobox_church, detailing your proposal. Chetsford (talk) 22:01, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- If I am understanding Frankdoherty correctly, I think they may mean adding and filling another parameter in the infobox at their church's article, presumably this one given their edits. If so, then since this thread already exists, they can simply state what needs to be done here and I or another user can do it. But yes, please respect our conflict of interest policies and guidelines. It's important to do so, including for your own continued usage of the account. —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 05:17, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Question regarding handling of past behavior
Teahouse greetings! I am DrewieStewie! I hope everybody here is having a great day. Now I know this question may be a waste of time to ask and answer, but it’s something I really want closure on, and I don’t know where else to ask it, so here we go. A few days ago, I left this message on Beeblebrox’s talk page, titled “A confession I must make”. and while he deleted it after reading it, it went like this:
Hello there Beeblebrox. I am DrewieStewie. I created this account in April 2014 and made myself a part of WikiProject Professional wrestling, and as you can see, despite a few controversial statements I made that made a mountain out of a molehill, I have had a pretty good track record here on Wikipedia. Not bad for a teenage editor that joined just before he turned 13 and is entering his senior year of high school in the next 12 hours! I have made over 500 constructive edits to the encyclopedia, mostly to the said WikiProject, but also on other topics as well. A small time Wikipedian that likes to edit occasionally in his spare time. But I must make a confession. 8 years ago, I was known as User:Pixiemasters. I was a 9 year old editor that wasn't vandalizing, but I was creating very incompetent articles repeatedly (They went "Jane doe (born) is") without finishing them and making them articles, which were speedy deleted and my ignorant self back then didn't listen to everybody telling me to stop. I was then indefinitely blocked. I tried fighting my block for a long time, but I didn't listen to what I was being ask to do, and at the time I was too young to understand what to do with it. This quote sums it up well: "I'm beginning to believe that there is a maturity issue here and that WP:CIR is needed before much improvement can be expected. I'll be happy to be proven otherwise. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:50, 15 June 2012 (UTC)" In the Summer of 2012, after incompetently fighting my block for a year and a half, I was talk page blocked for a year until I became mature. When that year came, I felt that I had matured and met WP:CIR and I was about to demonstrate, when you decided that everything above was enough of a reason to revoke talk page access without letting me have my chance I was promised a year ago. While I am not upset now, as I don't hold grudges, I was mad at the time and decided to block evade, even though that didn't help my case. Eventually, in April 2014, I decided to start fresh with my current account. I had been living under this shadow for 4 and a half years, and I felt it was finally time to come clean. I am sorry for my incompetency when I was a little boy, and I am almost an adult now. I've spent 4 years evading under a new alias and I've shown that I am a good Wikipedian that way. I had to play dirty to do it, but I proved it. I'm sorry I resorted to those tactics, but I just felt it was unfair that I wasn't given that opportunity I was promised a year ago. I am not mad at you over it, that's in the past, but I at the time felt it was unfair for me. I'm admitting this because I wanted to come clean to you about it, and so that it's not hanging on me any longer. I wanted to be the bigger man and hold on to my honor and be honest. Will I be amnestied for my wrongdoings of the past and we move on, or will I be idef'd for breaking the blocking policy big time long ago? I would appreciate an amnesty please, as I feel a block is unnecessary because of the fact that I've demonstrated competence, maturity, and constructive editing since my blunders of the past, and no damage would come to the encyclopedia as a result of my presence. Thanks for listening, I truly do appreciate it. :) DrewieStewie (talk) 07:38, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Now, I know this may be a silly issue, and that by deleting the message he may be indicating it’s okay and we can move on without any sanctions or reprecussions, but I wanted to be clean about myself and see whether or not I am still good or not here on Wikipedia, seeing what others have to say. I doubt I’ll have to be blocked for this, but I am just making sure. I truly appreciate your input. Have a wonderful day everybody :) DrewieStewie (talk) 21:56, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- I am sorry, DrewieStewie, but you have admitted block evasion, which is contrary to policy. I have blocked your account. Any appeal should be made at User talk:Pixiemasters, the talk page of your original account. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 22:12, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- I have restored your ability to edit User talk:Pixiemasters for the purpose of appealing the block, and for that purpose only. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 22:17, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- DrewieStewie - perhaps, if your appeal is successful, you could WP:CLEANSTART under DrewieStewie (as I read it, the block would first have to be lifted before you could CLEANSTART)? That way you could continue editing the more substantial contributions you've made over of the last few years instead of being chained to your nine year-old self? (And congratulations on starting your senior year.) Chetsford (talk) 22:20, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Mario's former color of overalls and T-shirt
What is the former color of Mario's overalls and T-shirt. Apollo C. Quiboloy fans (talk) 00:11, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Apollo C. Quiboloy fans. The Teahouse is typically a place for asking questions about how to edit Wikipedia or other things related to Wikipedia. Perhaps the information you're looking for can be found in the article Mario, but if not you can try asking at Wikipedia:Reference desk. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:51, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Add in Wikipedia biography
Dear Ladies and Gents:
How can you add me on Wikipedia, I have no idea how to do it. I am a Geoscientist and now retired with a miserable pension and I need to keeo working and exposure will probably get me more work. Please read the documents enclosed and you will be able to see who I am and also my work trajectory through more than 40 years inthe Oil and gAs business.
If you can add mu biography, I will be grateful.
extended details
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I have been in the business over 40 years in 6 continents and lately in 4D 4C operations, high density channel crews using 24 vibrators and 65.000 channels on the ground. I have land heliportable, mountain, jungle,highlands, transition, OBC. Land and marine. I have completed in January the largest vibroseis in India Rajasthan with 9000 SQ Km in a project that lasted 17 months. I have my own software to check electronics, processing and 3D design, etc. I could become the best QC man and best asset for your company that you aver had in your life. I have worked for PDO in Oman and Saudi Aramco in Saudi Arabia previously. I also have CO2 detection experience and DS3, DS4, wide azimuth surveys land and marine seismic, also I can speak 5 different languages and Chilean citizen do not need VISA for 161 countries, including Canada and USA. I have just completed the largest vibroseis seismic survey in India, Rajasthan 250 Km2.. Worked: Middle East and Asia, countries, such as Oman, Iran, India, South Korea,, Kuwait, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Cameroon, Cotonu, TChad, Nigeria, Congo, Libya, Kurdistan,Irak, Burma, United States, Mexico, Guatemala, Russia, Turkey Antarctic, China,North Sea, Australia, Scotland, Netherlands, Iraq,Curacao, Bonaire, Bermudas, Panama, France, England, Germany,Malta, Algeria and Sudan.Speak 4 languages and fluid English. |
Sincerely — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertoc3334 (talk • contribs) 01:34, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, Robertoc3334, but Wikipedia policy prohibits the creation of pages for exposure. Unless you've already been in the news, there's no way to write an article about you sourced to reliable sources. Have you considered starting a blog or writing an autobiography? That might give you some coverage, and if it gets written about in the news, it might meet Wikipedia guidelines for inclusion. — Alpha3031 (t • c) 01:50, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Robertoc3334. The short answer is that Wikipedia is not a website like Facebook or LinkedIn, etc. where you create an account to tell others all about yourself. Wikipedia articles are really only written about subject deemed to be Wikpedia notable and Wikipedia article content is only intended to really relfect what reliable sources (preferably secondary and independent) say about a subject, not what a subject says about itself. So, take a look a Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything, Wikipedia:Notability (people), and Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing for some more information. If you're someone who is considered to be Wikipedia notable enough to have an article written about him, then perhaps someday someone will do just that. Wikipedia pretty much discourages people from writing autobiographies, but perhaps you can find someone to write an aritcle about you at Wikipedia:Requested articles. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
I am a member of this wikiproject. I would like to use the tool Red Link Recovery Live to check the red links and get alternatives of them in articles. But when I opened the tool, I saw only this message-This combination of project and language is not configured, sorry. What should I do for work this tool?--PATH SLOPU (Talk) 05:22, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- If you click on the "Discuss" link on the tool page, it will take you to WP:WikiProject_Red_Link_Recovery/RLRL, where you will see that it was recognised last year that the tool (with others in the same directory) isn't working. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:41, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- @David Biddulph:Thank you.--PATH SLOPU (Talk) 13:30, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Expertscape article submission
I've submitted an article(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Expertscape) for review but would appreciate any advice or edits that would help the article. As one of the founders of the website, I have a conflict of interest and so am hopeful that others can adopt the article. We get frequent requests from hospitals, medical schools, and medical experts to have a Wikipedia entry that they can reference. Any guidance or edits would be appreciated. B4chex11 (talk) 14:22, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- You need to read the advice at WP:Your first article and Help:Referencing for beginners. Thanks for declaring your conflict of interest. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:27, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- The submission has been declined. The references appear to be casual or in-passing mentions of Expertscape. Not adequate for Wikipedia. David notMD (talk) 16:55, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
I've tried to correct the problems with the submission and have re-submitted. Admittedly, I don't begin to understand the methods and details involved with the submission process, so any advice would be appreciated.(We just had another example from Ochsner this week - https://news.ochsner.org/news-releases/ochsner-cardiologist-recognized-as-world-expert-on-health-topics). Thanks. B4chex11 (talk) 21:49, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
I checked various articles and there are a dozen Wikipedia pages that mention Expertscape, and some of those have dead links. If it's helpful, we'll fix those links. Also, it must be worth something that the PubMed wikipedia page has referenced Expertscape for quite a long while. B4chex11 (talk) 21:55, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Please I need help on how to make my article suitable for publishing.
Hello guys, trust you had or having a great day.
Please i need help on how to make my article suitable for publishing. IT had received a decline once and i don't want that the second time. Please help, i think the problem is as a result of no referencing.
I use this as a format https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJ_Baddo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dj_Micky#External_links thats the link to the draft — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamdjmicky (talk • contribs) 15:05, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Iamdjmicky Please read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. Note the bit that says "strongly discouraged". That means, you should not write about yourself. If you do, expect to find your article nominated for deletion unless you can provide serveral reliable sources that write about you in-depth. Hint: Facebook is not a reliable source. Vexations (talk) 15:28, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Vexations Please can i find a freelance wikipedia Editor who can help write this? I am confused. I don't know the next step. Maybe I should just delete the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamdjmicky (talk • contribs) 16:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello, Iamdjmicky. I fear you are making the common mistake of supposing that Wikipedia has anything at all to do with your online presence or telling the world about yourself. It doesn't. If Wikipedia ever has an article about you it should be based almost 100% on what people who have no connection with you have chosen to publish about you - and if such sources do not exist, there cannot be an article about you, whoever writes it and however they do so. If there is an article about you, it will not belong to you, you willl have no control over it, and it should contain almost no information that comes from you or your associates. Please see WP:NOTABILITY and WP:PRIDE, apart form the links you have already been given. --ColinFine (talk) 16:56, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Okay! ColinFine, Vexations thanks, I really appreciate you guys on this, having gone through various links and guides I now have a clear understanding of what qualifies a wikipedia article. The most important, I cant write about MYSELF. Please can i get a Wikipedia Editor who can do this for me freelance or for a fee? Thanks. Warm regards, Mike. Iamdjmicky (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:52, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Not reliably, Iamdjmicky, and not at all unless you can be shown to be notable (in Wikipedia's special sense). If you do the legwork of finding suitable sources (see IRS) that might make it more attractive to somebody, but in the end everybody who edits here is a volunteer, and we all work on what we choose. Somebody will pick up your request only if something about it catches their interest; if they do so, it will not be for you: it will be for Wikipedia. The place to make the request, if you can find some sources, is requested articles. --ColinFine (talk) 19:59, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Creating an article for a business Porter Press International
Hello,
I tried to publish this article but it had been moved to drafts by Deb because apparently, it was promotional however we have advice from your team and read all of the guidelines and in our eyes have stuck by your rules. Please advise what we need to change and help me in getting this published.
Kind regards Albert — Preceding unsigned comment added by AWall1998 (talk • contribs) 16:04, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse AWall1998 Draft:Porter Press International is largely unreferenced marketing and advertising, with parts sourced to your own website. We only summarise what reliable, independent published sources have to say about a subject. Theroadislong (talk) 16:52, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Albert: please read my reply to djmicky in the previous section above. That was about an article about himself, but almost everything I said applies equally to an article about a company. --ColinFine (talk) 16:59, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Not even close. What Porter Press International says about itself is not relevant nor referenceable. David notMD (talk) 19:30, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- I agree with the other editors commenting above. Not a single one of your references is to an independent reliable source devoting significant coverage to Porter Press as a business entity. If there is no such coverage, then it is not possible to write an acceptable Wikipedia article. Your draft resembles a product catalog much more than an encyclopedia article. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 22:28, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Not even close. What Porter Press International says about itself is not relevant nor referenceable. David notMD (talk) 19:30, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Mark Wright Edmundson Professional Bio
My first draft was rejected for several reasons which were all corrected and the draft was then resubmitted. A second reviewer rejected the new draft for a different, simple reason but, and this is my question, the draft was also moved to avoid breaking links and now I can't edit it because it is in code instead of the visual editor. Please advise, and thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Clemens (talk • contribs) 18:06, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- A file doesn't exist in 2 different formats, but it will be displayed differently within the editor depending on which of the editors you choose to use. Draft:Mark Edmundson can be edited in whichever of the editors you prefer. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:38, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- @David Clemens: to switch between visual editor and source code editor (and vice versa) just look for the little black pencil icon on the upper right hand side of the editing tools window. Click that, and you can switch back and forth between visual editor and wiki source code editor. You can also choose, as DavidB says, how your editing preferences are remembered in future between sessions. Just go to Preferences and select the option that best suits your needs. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:13, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- What do you mean by "the editing tools window", Nick? I don't see "the little black pencil icon", but I'm sticking to the traditional editor and I don't use the visual editor. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- David Biddulph - if you're already in the visual editor, the black pencil button will show up in the top right corner of the page right next to the "publish changes" button. If you're already in the source editor, it will show up on the top right of the whole editing interface, on the right side of the toolbar. I hope this helps clarify things.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 19:26, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- No, I can't see the black pencil. Perhaps it depends on some preference setting? --David Biddulph (talk) 19:31, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- I just fixed it. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:30, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- David Biddulph - if you're already in the visual editor, the black pencil button will show up in the top right corner of the page right next to the "publish changes" button. If you're already in the source editor, it will show up on the top right of the whole editing interface, on the right side of the toolbar. I hope this helps clarify things.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 19:26, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- What do you mean by "the editing tools window", Nick? I don't see "the little black pencil icon", but I'm sticking to the traditional editor and I don't use the visual editor. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- @David Clemens: to switch between visual editor and source code editor (and vice versa) just look for the little black pencil icon on the upper right hand side of the editing tools window. Click that, and you can switch back and forth between visual editor and wiki source code editor. You can also choose, as DavidB says, how your editing preferences are remembered in future between sessions. Just go to Preferences and select the option that best suits your needs. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:13, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Shorter. David notMD (talk) 19:37, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Userspace
I've finally decided to create a userspace page for myself, but can only find this template https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:User_info
Are there any other templates I can choose from anywhere? Danstarr69 (talk) 21:55, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Danstarr69. Take a look at the Wikipedia:User page design center, and check out the various links there. By the way, there is no need to use a template to create a userpage. You can just use standard wikicode. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 22:35, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Most editors don't use templates to make their own pages. You might want to look at some editors you've encountered and copy elements of theirs, or just write a short paragraph introducing yourself for now. One common feature is Wikipedia:Userboxes, which you can explore at e.g. Wikipedia:Userboxes/Galleries. › Mortee talk 22:38, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- I prefer templates for now. I have no idea what type of stuff I should put on my user page so it's easier just copying a template to give me an idea. I already had the userboxes page bookmarked as I'm going to be adding userboxes for my interests and the type of stuff I edit the most, once I've got my userpage looking decent. I haven't created any normal Wikipedia pages yet, so when I do eventually create one, I'll be copying a template for that too until I can remember how to do it myself. All I know how to do so far on Wikipedia is how to copy and edit stuff that's already there. Things like adding new nav boxes, adding colours, changing text size etc I don't have a clue about. Danstarr69 (talk) 22:55, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Squirtle is a good Wikipedia Page
Squirtle has detailed information on everyone favourite Tiny Turtle — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpaceMars8 (talk • contribs) 02:41, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- @SpaceMars8: welcome to the Teahouse! "Good Article" means something specific on Wikipedia, not just that it's an article we like or an article about a subject we like. A Good Article is an article that has gone through a very thorough review process and meets a number of specific quality criteria. You can read more about it here. That's why your addition of Squirtle to a list of Good Articles was reverted - it has not been through that process. --bonadea contributions talk 06:23, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Gardner, Kansas
I would like more information about a civil war battle at Gardner, Kansas. Wikipedia is the only place I have found mention of any such occurrence. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.213.222.158 (talk) 05:12, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi! The best place to ask this might be Wikipedia:Reference_desk - the Teahouse is intended for questions about how to edit Wikipedia. Still, I'd be happy to help if I can. Could you link to the article where you read about this civil war battle? I don't see any mention of it in the Gardner, Kansas article and Googling is only taking me to unrelated articles like Alexander Gardner (photographer) and Battle of Black Jack. › Mortee talk 07:43, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Here is the relevant content from the Gardner, Kansas article: "Four years after its establishment, it became the first community in Johnson County — and perhaps the first in the state — to experience an attack by Confederate forces." There is a reference for that sentence, but the ref has no content. David notMD (talk) 09:54, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Ahhh, thank you. I entirely missed that. I'm finding it difficult to locate a reliable source for it, but there are unreliable sources that discuss it further, e.g. this, if those are of interest to the original IP editor, and I imagine someone putting in some more time with Google could do better than that. › Mortee talk 12:21, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- The article source http://www.gardnerhistorymuseum.org/page3.html is archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20090217170708/http://www.gardnerhistorymuseum.org/page3.html. It refers to "A written history, Gardner - Where The Trails Divide". Google finds [1]. I haven't read the book but have updated the article to use https://gardnerhistoricalmuseum.com/gardner-history/.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 12:52, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Here is the relevant content from the Gardner, Kansas article: "Four years after its establishment, it became the first community in Johnson County — and perhaps the first in the state — to experience an attack by Confederate forces." There is a reference for that sentence, but the ref has no content. David notMD (talk) 09:54, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Want to reinstate changes for accuracy that someone else has removed
Hello, I'm registered as an editor, but am not great at it. I made some changes to the page for "Gary Stretch" (boxer) as I believe - because multiple sources say so - that the year of his birth is wrong - should be 1968 not 1965, and (possibly) the month and day might be wrong (11th April, rather than 4th November). However, another user (Jessicapierce) has removed my changes, citing that they were not properly sourced. I'd be very grateful if someone who is a skilled editor could look into this and - in the interests of accuracy - make the required changes. Thanks! Timinuk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timinuk (talk • contribs) 10:09, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- There were two problems with your edit. Firstly the information added was unsourced, and secondly tou were including commentary in the article text. If you want to raise the question (with supporting sources), the place to do it is on the article talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:02, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Userbox Creation
I'm trying to create my 1st ever userbox, and it's ok so far but there's a few things I need to know. 1 - How do I get the text to be centralised? 2 - How do I get the text to be bold? 3 - Can I change the text colour of the page I linked from Blue to Yellow? 4 - How do I make the City of Bradford text slightly bigger, and is there a guide to show what size it will be?
Eg. This user was born in the
City of Bradford
This user was born in the City of Bradford |
Danstarr69 (talk) 11:34, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
This user was born in the City of Bradford |
- Hi Danstarr69. Click edit to see code for your wishes. I used
info-a
from Template:Userbox#Usage for centering. The rest is general wikitext/html formatting code and not specific to userboxes so it isn't documented there. See Help:Wikitext. I added a line break with<br />
before "City of Bradford". Yellow text on orange background is hard to read so don't use it in the final version. Note that<span style="font-size:120%; color:yellow;">[[City of Bradford]]</span>
would not change link color. It produces City of Bradford. Changing link color requires a piped link with color inside the link code.[[City of Bradford|<span style="font-size:120%; color:yellow;">City of Bradford</span>]]
produces City of Bradford. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:31, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Danstarr69: I've replied on Wikipedia talk:Userboxes/Ideas#City of Bradford. —andrybak (talk) 12:39, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- I waited around an hour for a reply, now I've got around 4 at once, while I was busy messing up my template even further trying to figure out how to get 'City of Bradford' on the next line. I wasn't going to be using Yellow on that Orange background, that was just temporary. It's going to be a Blue background (probably the 069 colour), with the FC0 colour writing. I haven't read all the messages yet, so it could have been answered already, but is there a way to get the FCO colour as the writing colour? Danstarr69 (talk) 13:10, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- With new colors:
This user is from
City of Bradford
- You can use <br/> to break lines inside the text. —andrybak (talk) 13:16, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
This user was born in the City of Bradford |
- @Danstarr69: An hour is far too little to wait, and asking in three places is two too many. Other users waste time answering the same question. If you do want to try another venue then wait for days and include a link to the original question so people can see whether it has already been answered when they want to answer. (edit conflict) There are two text colors. I don't know which (or both?) you want to be #FC0 but whatever you want, simply write it instead of the existing color in that location. I gave an example with
color:#FC0
instead ofcolor:yellow
in the link text, and#069
as background. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:28, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Danstarr69: An hour is far too little to wait, and asking in three places is two too many. Other users waste time answering the same question. If you do want to try another venue then wait for days and include a link to the original question so people can see whether it has already been answered when they want to answer. (edit conflict) There are two text colors. I don't know which (or both?) you want to be #FC0 but whatever you want, simply write it instead of the existing color in that location. I gave an example with
I'd just created this
This user was born in the City of Bradford |
Then noticed yours above, which is what I was going for but realised that Red was a bit too dark. I've finally got what I wanted and can use it to create more useboxes in a similar style with just the odd colour change occasionally. Danstarr69 (talk) 13:47, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Tutorial
I need a step by step tutorial to help me set up a biography. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pollycle (talk • contribs) 11:27, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- You'll find advice at WP:Your first article and at WP:Biography. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:31, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello, Pollycle. I'm a little concerned at your use of the phrase "set up". I may be misinterpreting, but that phrase suggests to me that you think that Wikipedia is like LinkedIn, or social media. What we do is not "set up" pages, but write articles. They are not for the subject (or against them): they are about the subject, and should be based almost entirely on material published by people unconnected with the subject. My apologies if I'm jumping to a wrong conclusion about your intention. --ColinFine (talk) 12:59, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- If your question is about the draft in your sandbox about Thomas Henry Haines, then neither the whole nor parts thereof are suitable for a Wikipedia biography. The draft has no references. Be aware that the subject's autobiography cannot serve as a reference. Strongly suggest you look at several biographies of living people who are academics, to get the drift. David notMD (talk) 13:35, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Writing article based on a book by recognized authors
I am attempting to publish wiki articles about the Indian revolutionaries.
Following are the challenges that I am facing:
- Except the well-known(who received at least some limelight) revolutionaries, it is almost impossible to find online sources, Google book search etc. about the countless other revolutionaries.
- Due to privacy laws e.g: in Europe, the already scanty source links do not show up in the web search.
- I have read several books by renowned/recognized authors or the lesser-known revolutionaries themselves, these books provide, at least, some information about the now-unknown revolutionaries. The challenge is that such a book is the singular source and no other web references can be 'cited'.
While in the 'References' section, I quoted the ISBN of the book, the author and publication name and the page numbers which provide info. about the revolutionary, my recent article got rejected due to 'lack of citations'. How do I proceed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scribblingdeeds (talk • contribs) 11:42, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Draft:Vishwanath Vaishampayan had just one book as a reference, but WP:GNG generally expects multiple sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:55, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed but that's the only source I have. As I mentioned, there are/were already less no. of books on this subject and now most of them are out of print. The author of the book(Srikrishan Saral) was an Indian who dedicated his life to write about the Indian revolutionaries.
- @Scribblingdeeds: Sources need not be online, or even easily available, what matters (here) is that they support notability of the subject. You can cite multiple books, even if they are obscure/out-of-print/etc., as long as they went through a reputable editorial process (in particular not a vanity press).
- On the other hand, if you cannot find sources due to various issues (search results not popping up etc.), you might have some luck asking at the Resource Exchange (the more precise your request, the best chance you stand). However we do need something, else the article will not be accepted. TigraanClick here to contact me 14:45, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
the rollback tool
Hello folks! I wanna use the rollback tool on this Wikipedia just like I use on the Simple English Wikipedia. Can someone please grant me with rollback? Angela Maureen (talk) 12:55, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello September 1988, requests for rollback are handled at WP:PERM/R, where an administrator will choose to either grant or reject your request. Not sure if we can just move this there or not, but god luck with your application. (though I guess if an admin sees this here they'll probably do whatever evaluating required anyway)— Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:18, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
K'iche' Lemmas
Wusup. I notice there's not much k'iche' words on Wiktionary, so if none of you mind, Ima get on the grind. Makuta Makaveli (talk) 17:11, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Makuta Makaveli, a k'iche' Wiktionary would be a separate project from the English Wikipedia, so that's really up to you. I think this page is the right place to request a new language for Wiktionary. Best of luck! › Mortee talk 17:23, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Arabic sources
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Can I write an article about person in English but the References and source written in Arabic.. But they have the same meaning — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coshinda (talk • contribs) 16:57, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, Coshinda, you may, provided the sources are reliable. It is often a good idea to include a translation of the relevant part of the source, but that is a convenience for the reader, not an essential part of the citation. See WP:NONENG for more. --ColinFine (talk) 17:08, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
New Editor looking to get feet wet.
First off, thanks to HostBot for inviting me here. I appreciate the sense of community already. I've perused the guidelines and principles pages, explored some of the best practices and essays, and generally been enjoying myself. I'm finding a bit more confidence after my first couple edits the other bot recommended.
Which bring me to my question, which is: for newer editors, is there a link depository or some such of easier, less critical tasks that we can proverbially 'get our feet wet' with?
I've seen references to mentoring, and different styles of editorial focus (AfD, anti-vandalism, etc.) so maybe if there was another internal page that explained getting involved with some of those?
Cheers, --Elfabet (talk) 18:11, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
[mid-post Edit:] And just as I'm about to post this, I find WP:Community Portal. Welp. Hello anyways.
Elfabet (talk)
- @Elfabet: There's also WP:The Wikipedia Adventure if you want a pretty much risk-free tutorial. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:15, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Ian.thomson:, I'll be sure to check that out Elfabet (talk) 18:18, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
List of Search Engines - addition requested
Hi - The list of search engines is missing "Elasticsearch" (https://www.elastic.co is the homepage & this is the wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elasticsearch)in the Open Source section. I can't quite figure out how to contact the last editor User:power~enwiki to request this update. Thanks in advance for your help! Ranch2k (talk) 18:55, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi and welcome Ranch2k. Assuming that the reason you don't want to update this yourself is because of a COI, I
can handlehave handled [3] that for you. In the future, you can also post such requests directly to the article talk page using these procedures: WP:COIREQ. Chetsford (talk) 19:47, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
HiChetsford. I tried to edit but it was restricted. Thanks so much !!!Ranch2k (talk) 20:43, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi User:Ranch2k. The reason you weren't able to edit it was because it is semi-protected due to spam (though it's been 10 years, we may should try lifting the protection level again), so that only autoconfirmed users can edit it. In the future, if you need to make an edit to a page but it's protected, you can click "view source" and then "Submit an edit request," which will allow you to make an edit request on the talk page. Any user who has permission to edit the page can review the edit request and either decline it or accept it. Also, once you've had an account for 4 days and made 10 edits, you should be able to edit almost all mainspace pages on Wikipedia. I hope this helps, and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 00:23, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi SkyGazer 512 Thank you so much for the info and the tips too! The learning curve is a bit steeper than I anticipated, but will dig in and hope to make my 10 edits soon. It's great to be part of a team that's so helpful. Hopefully I can return the favor to someone once my training wheels are off. Ranch2k (talk) 00:38, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Mental health UK
Awful, biased, factually incorrect article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.198.81 (talk) 22:41, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Do you have any examples to back up your claims? MarnetteD|Talk 22:57, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello 82.43.198.81 and welcome to the Teahouse.
- It seems you are commenting on the content of Mental health in the United Kingdom, not asking about how to edit Wikipedia. While we appreciate that the Teahouse seems like a friendly place to discuss all manner of things, it turns out that complaints about the article should go on the talk page of the article. It's best if you can point out particular statements that are incorrect and, if possible, point to suitable sources for the correct and unbiased information. Otherwise, the article will likely remain as it is. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 00:10, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
/* Manual of Style and editing */
I have been working on editing, updating and sourcing the sons of champlin wiki article here but try as I might I am not able to edit or get rid of the first 2 references which are dead or corrupted links. Tried just deleting codes but wouldn't work. Suggestions? Can someone fix or get rid of them? thank you as always for your help here! Paulhus15 (talk) 23:30, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- If references are dead links we don't just delete them. We either tag them as dead links or include live or archive links. See WP:DEADREF. In Sons of Champlin you were apparently having problems with list-defined references. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:32, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
use of images
Hello, very new editor here, thanking you in advance for assistance. The use of images other than those found on Wikicommons was not covered in the tutorial. Are other images permitted if they have, for example, Creative Commons license, or ?Ninazurier (talk) 23:35, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello, Ninazurier. Welcome to the Teahouse. Yes, they are allowed if they have a suitable licence (not all Creative Commons licences will do: the non-commercial ones are not acceptable) but they still have to be uploaded to Commons. The software will not pull in images except from Wikipedia itself or from Commons. --ColinFine (talk) 00:19, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Question on recent draft submission - Win This Record
I have a question about a recent article draft I did for David Lindley/El Ray-o X's second album "Win This Record". It was rejected due to insufficient coverage. I compared it to the article for the group's first album and it has similar source citation (both in number and source itself - All Music), yet that article was published. Also, the first paragraph is a bit more developed for WTR than for the first album. I'd like to know the "why" behind the apparent inconsistency so I may improve my understanding of the process and do a better job in the future. Thanks for any response on this matter. THX1136 (talk) 01:06, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello and welcome, THX1136. Because there is no enforced hierarchy on WP, and articles are generated by anyone and everyone without the need for any qualifications other than the ability to turn on a computer, you will see substantial inconsistency. WP's general guidance of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS suggests that, because a policy non-compliant article may exist somewhere, is not precedent for more policy non-compliant articles to subsequently be introduced.
- In terms of negative enforcement, problematic articles can be either fixed or tagged for deletion, however, since there are more than five million articles on WP this is an imperfect process and it is very possible to find articles of inferior quality. In terms of positive enforcement, the FA and GA articles are those which have undergone a minimal level of vetting and review and these are usually better samples off of which to model a new article. I hope this helps! Chetsford (talk) 04:35, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello! I gonna try a little help for my Research survey
I'm a master's student and I'm doing a thesis about article quality on wikipedia. Could you tell me is there any space where I can post a few questions directed to users who are interested in participating in the research? Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lu Brito (talk • contribs)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Lu Brito. Please read Wikipedia:Research and follow the advice there. Please be aware that only Good articles and Featured articles undergo a peer review. All other ratings are informal and of little significance. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:46, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Redirect issue
I am a wikipedian who edits in malayalam wikipedia. There were 2 existing templates namely ml:ഫലകം:Requested move and ml:ഫലകം:പേരുമാറ്റുക. I recently deleted all the contents of the template ഫലകം:പേരുമാറ്റുക and I redirected that template to ഫലകം:Requested move. But currently, in the pages that were linked to ഫലകം:പേരുമാറ്റുക is showing the message REDIRECT ഫലകം:Requested move and not the contents of the template ഫലകം:Requested move. (Example page: ml:നഗരം.) I tried to clear the cache of both the templates but in vain. Please note that the word ഫലകം means template in english. Adithyak1997 (talk) 06:54, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Adithyak1997. If you question is related to a problem you're having on Malayalam Wikipedia, then you'd probably be better off asking about it there. The Teahouse deals pretty much only with questions related to editing on English Wikipedia, so I'm not sure how much help you'll find here. Your question also seems a bit technical in nature. A Teahouse host might be able to help, but you might also try WP:VP/T or maybe even Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates. Once again though, the editors working off those pages might not be of much help when it comes to Malayalam Wikipedia templates. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:18, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Adithyak1997: Possibly you can just revert your changes and restore the working version of the redirected template...? --CiaPan (talk) 07:38, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- I am sorry to inform you that it was a mistake from my part. The problem was that it was a case of double redirect which caused the problem. Adithyak1997 (talk) 08:31, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Why speedy deletion?
I created the page Sonyaa and it was deleted because of some sculpture india user? I want to contest it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thewikicreator01 (talk • contribs) 07:04, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Thewikicreator01. Sonyaa was deleted by an administrator named SoWhy per speedy deletion criterion A7. You can post a message at User talk:SoWhy and ask for further clarification if you like. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:12, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Sister Who
I am Sister Who a/k/a Rev. Denver NeVaar, MTS and am wondering about the creation of an article within Wikipedia containing objective factual information about myself, my accomplishments, and my work, with only the intention to inform those unfamiliar with me, who might otherwise find my perhaps original approach to creativity and spirituality confusing. I have been a public access television personality since November of 1992 (446 individual productions have been recorded thus far), climbed to the summits of sixteen mountains reaching above fourteen thousand feet elevation within the state of Colorado within the United States, recorded four albums of original songs, and maintained a monthly newsletter of substantive intellectual thought on issues of life and/or spirituality since the beginning of 1998. In order to inform the general public about what Sister Who is and what Sister Who is not, a Wikipedia article seems recommendable, in order to make any personal encounter within perhaps unexpected public spaces, a non-threatening experience--especially because Sister Who has, in fact, appeared within so many diverse urban and rural places throughout the last twenty-seven years (Paris, Sydney, Amsterdam, New York, and San Francisco; Colorado, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, California, Washington, Montana, and the District of Columbia; and on the Internet through YouTube.com/DenverNeVaar and SisterWho.com). Evidence of being noticed has come in the form of a number of newspaper articles; an extensive archive of information within the Western History Department of the Denver Public Library of Denver, Colorado; and fan email from Norway, Italy, Poland, Japan, the UK, and Indonesia. It seems there are plenty of people who want objective information about me, but no one has volunteered to embrace the task of writing a respectable Wikipedia article, listing my academic accomplishments, significant public appearances, relevant vocational contributions, or the ways the work has been shaped by also being an adult with autism who was not diagnosed as such until the age of fifty. I would very much appreciate either guidance in how to proceed or a volunteer collaborator who could effectively fill this void of information. --S.W./D.N. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denver NeVaar (talk • contribs) 11:43, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello, Denver NeVaar, and welcome to the Teahouse. "[T]o inform those unfamiliar with " a subject, is another way of saying "Promotion", and is explicitly not what Wikipedia is for. Wikipedia is only interested in subjects which have already been written about, at some depth, by people unconnected with the subject: the Wikipedia jargon for this is that the subject is notable. From your description, it is possible that you do meet the criteria - the newspaper articles may contribute to that, but fan mail will not (as unpublished) and nor will the archive, unless there is independently published material about it.
- Thank you for not attempting to write the article yourself, as this is strongly discouraged. Unfortunately there is no reliable way of finding somebody to write an article about you (it will not be an article for you), since this is a volunteer project, and people work on what interests them. The formal place for requesting an article be written is at requested articles; but in honesty, the take-up rate is low there. Another approach is to find a suitable WikiProject, and ask for a collaborator there. Perhaps WT:WikiProject Spirituality, or WT:WikiProject Autism? In either case, you will make your request more attractive if you do some of the legwork; rather than just asserting that there are newspaper articles about you, read IRS and V and actually cite some specific sources.
- Be aware that if an article is written, you will have no control whatever over its content: that will be determined by a consensus of uninvolved editors, according to what information is available in independent reliable published sources. --ColinFine (talk) 12:32, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article." If other people - not connected to you - have not been writing about you, unlikely. David notMD (talk) 18:05, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
uploading a figure after obtaining permission from publisher
I have a problem uploading the figure to my article. I do not own the figure, but I requested permission with the publishing journal, which I received. I tried uploading the figure to the wikimedia commons page, however I have no idea which copyright template I would need to use. Can anyone help me on how to proceed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjochum87 (talk • contribs) 11:56, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- It depends on what permissions have been given. If you have been given permission to use it on a Wikipedia article, then it can not be uploaded to Commons at all. If they have put a free license on it then you would use the free license they have placed on the figure and expect to be asked to prove they have done it. Depending on the figure it might be eligible for fair use but then it would need to be uploaded here rather than at Commons. ~ GB fan 12:20, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Jjochum87: If I might clarify, if their permission statement is limited to use on Wikipedia then it cannot be uploaded to Commons. I'll go further, I don't see any value in a permission statement that permits use on Wikipedia only. That's not a fair use statement, so I don't see how the image could be used in Wikipedia.--S Philbrick(Talk) 16:05, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Jenny Koller/Jenny Thomann-Koller
I am trying to place an article under the above mentioned title but can't find where and how. The article is finished but will need to be formatted according to Wikipedia rules. --Htewarso (talk) 13:33, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Htewarso Welcome to Teahouse. I believe you are referring to THIS article in your sandbox. Please read WP:Your First Article and Referencing for Beginners to familiar yourself on how to write an article and citing in Wikipedia. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:43, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- You asked at WP:Help desk#Jenny Thomann-Koller. Please read the answer there, together with the advice at WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:44, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Page rejected for not being notable
The page in question is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Chris_Fussell_(US_Navy_SEAL)
Chris is notable for several reasons. He is a former Navy SEAL who was part of SEAL team 6 (who captured Osama Bin Laden) and who is highly sought after to frequently speak to large association and corporate audiences. He is also the author of two books, one a best-seller. He helped create a program, Operations and Intelligence, which revolutionized communication in the Navy. Lastly, there are 9 reputable sources for him; all which should prove he is notable.
If this still doesn't justify, can someone please help edit it/help add more citations so that it reads to be notable?
Also, what do the 'hidden categories' mean? I'm new to this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PennyLS61917 (talk • contribs) 14:54, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- @PennyLS61917: It might be because when you search "Chris Fussell US Navy Seal Osama Bin Laden", no articles about Fussell himself come up. He was a part of a notable team, but it's not like he did a lot of work in the capture that any other seal could've done (he didn't shoot him). All searches that do come up are just passing mentions which don't qualify towards notability on Wikipedia. This article only gives a quote from him. There are notability guidelines on Wikipedia, the most widely recognized being WP:GNG. It states that "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." Fussell doesn't have that coverage. Redditaddict69 15:08, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello PennyLS61917 and welcome to the Teahouse.As for hidden categories, these are tracking categories used to classify pages for the kind of work that is needed to be done on them. They are not displayed as part of the categories at the bottom of the article, since they are not considered useful to the general reader, hence "hidden". — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 15:13, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- @PennyLS61917: If seeing loads of 'hidden categories' at the bottom of every article is irritating to you, you can easily stop them showing by changing your 'Preferences' - just go to the 'Appearance' tab and scroll down to 'advanced options' and un-tick the 'Show hidden categories' box. Find it at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. It's right next to the 'Auto-number headings' tick box - which, as a complete aside, is a wonderful way of getting numbers added to article subheadings so that they match the Table of Contents). Nick Moyes (talk) 15:39, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Nick Moyes Oddly enough, the show hidden categories box is not checked. but I did check the 'Auto-number headings' per your suggestions! PennyLS61917 (talk) 15:48, 22 August 2018 (UTC)PennyLS61917
- Oh - odd. I expect another editor may be able to shed light on why that is and what to do about it. Sorry I can't! Nick Moyes (talk) 16:04, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- I would reread the notability guideline on biographies as well as our reliable source guideline. Wikipedia uses the words "notable" and "reliable sources" in a very specific way. I would not call any of the sources provided in your article reliable sources, #1-5 and #9 are just biography pages (presumably the information was provided by Chris himself, so not independent), #6 is an interview so it is not independent, and #7-8 just prove that the books that he wrote exist. What the article needs are multiple, in-depth, independent sources. If those do not exist, then a person is not notable, no matter how famous he is. shoy (reactions) 17:14, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
How to clean up a category
Hi! I was looking through Category:Featured articles needing translation from Chinese Wikipedia. This is a hidden category containing articles that have featured status on the Chinese Wikipedia. This is nifty because now we know we have a high quality article in Chinese that can be translated into English.
However, I noticed that a lot of these articles have had their featured status removed long ago. Then I looked into other subcategories of Category:Featured articles needing translation from foreign-language Wikipedias and found similar problems. For example, Nationalist Party of Castile and León is in the category Category:Featured articles needing translation from Spanish Wikipedia, even though the corresponding article in Spanish appears to have never been featured.
My question is this. Fixing these categories looks like a problem worth addressing that I would be interested in working on. Editing it by hand seems like a lot of nasty work, but a bot could probably do it quickly by verifying that the corresponding article is indeed featured. However, my only experience editing Wikipedia is the occasional minor edit. I have programming experience, but I am aware of WP:BOTNOTNOW. Would this be a good question for Wikipedia:Bot requests? Or should I direct it to the translation project? Thanks for any help! Flurmbo (talk) 15:57, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
MERGING ARTICLES
Checking through the copy edit category discovered that the article on ABS-CBN and ABS-CBN (TV network) with little difference which is the controversies and sandals on the tv network article as the major difference. How can I go about this, please? Pheritenom (talk) 17:18, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Vandalism from user:194.199.4.202
Anonymous user ip is deleting facts from several pages. Claiming falses titles and deleting facts How to prevent him to carry on?
User:194.199.4.202 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heraldique21 (talk • contribs) 16:35, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Controversial subject (for some) Communion and Liberation (again!)
Hi everyone, last month I have been involved in a long edit war involving the aformentioned page, which ended in the ban of the other user. This month I had some vacations and, honestly, it wasn't nice as a first experience to be involved in an edit war, so I didn't open my account much.
A new user registered the 9th of August Lawtheagoraphobic (at least that's when he created the wiki page ) and has since then changed the page almost back to what it was before I tried to change things.
I'm inclined to believe it's the same user, as the very same information has been restored, including the same mistakes (on the short initial log the foundation date is correct, but then on the history it cites 1969, which is the same wrong year I saw in the old versions). He also removed the only change I did (added the disputed tag), accusing me of being a one shot user (while in the talk page I referred to the fact that many of the observations that are now in the archive are valid for the "new" version).
How does wiki cope with this? I know there are some controversial subject and it is messy...but in this case there's someone (or more than one) who simply hates Communion and Liberation and shall spend all the time of its life reverting changes. Is it possible to ask for a "perpetual" disputed/controversial tag? I simply don't have the time to fight with every new account opened by this guy... GioA90 (talk) 16:53, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
I am even more inclined now that I find many articles are the same, even this one https://www.ilgazzettino.it/nordest/padova/comunione_liberazione_padova_condanna_truffa_dieffe-345586.html which is old (it talks about a trial where people were initially found guilty but the final verdict discharged everyone) and in the talk page I posted and argued about this. I call this behaviour mala fides...GioA90 (talk) 16:58, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
The user just removed the disputed tag again, without addressing the talk page...GioA90 (talk) 17:37, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Wine AOC is now AOP
I just returned from France where those in the industry are all referring to their wines as being AOP (Appellation d'Origine Protégée) and no longer AOC (Appellation d'Origine Contrôlée). This applies to cheeses and some other foods as well. This would require some work among the Wikipedia members to update this, but it probably should be done.
See, e.g.: http://www.internationalwineguild.com/aoc--aop
Leigh Pomeroy
<personal information redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redjackco (talk • contribs) 17:11, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Translating an existing Wikipedia article
Hello,
The Arabic Wikipedia site has a page on a children's ensemble and I'd like to translate it to English.
Please see the link of the existing article.
https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/مستخدم:Lola.majadly/ملعب
I'm wondering if such an article would be accepted by the encyclopedia.
Looking forward to your reply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumoorah (talk • contribs) 17:33, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello, Sumoorah. Provided the subject meets English Wikipedia's criteria for notability, you are welcome to translate it: see Translation. But you should not assume that just because it exists in another Wikipedia it is automatically acceptable. References in Arabic are acceptable if there are not good ones in English, but they must be reliable sources. --ColinFine (talk) 18:55, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Argh how do I Wikipedia
I am altogether confused at whether this is ANI-worthy or not, or where else to take it if not, so I'm leaving this diff here. The user in question has made some constructive edits, but typically even those have uncivil edit summaries. Advice would be appreciated. An Owl Called Josh 🦉 (talk) 18:23, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Since the IP hasn't edited in 3 days nothing would be done if you did bring it to ANI. ~ GB fan 18:48, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hello and welcome, An Owl Called Josh. Based on the IP editor's history of using racial epithets (e.g. [4], [5], [6], etc.) I'd say this is a case of WP:NOTHERE. However, their contributions are very spartan (averaging two per month over the last couple years) so taking it to ANI might be more time and trouble for you than it's really worth. That's just my opinion, others may disagree. Chetsford (talk) 18:52, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- @An Owl Called Josh: Even though the report is stale, I've blocked the IP and WP:REVDELed the post anyway. It's a static IP, and this bit of stupidity (why the number came up purple instead of blue for me) is a sign that there is a consistent user there who would be blocked indefinitely if they were using an account. Feel free to let me know if they say anything during or after their block. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:47, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
common.js softwares
Are there any common.js softwares I should know about and install for my Wikipedia account (aside from XFDCloser and EnterpriseyBot)? Redditaddict69 19:01, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
User Review2018 vandalism
User «Review2018» joined 30 minutes ago and keeps deleting articles. Vandalism Can someone.block him