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October 26

Help me!

to creat ali mansour egyptian actor

Mohamoudelmelegy As a new user, you cannot yet directly create new articles. You may use Articles for Creation to do so, but successfully creating a new article is the most difficult task on Wikipedia. You would be more successful if you get some experience under your belt first, editing existing articles, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates. Either way, you should first read Your First Article and use the new user tutorial.

To write about an actor, you will first need to make sure the actor meets Wikipedia's special definition of a a notable actor; not every actor merits an article on Wikipedia. You will also need independent reliable sources to support the article content. 331dot (talk) 08:51, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

I removed the article text from here, as this page is for discussion. 331dot (talk) 08:52, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Princess Beatrice of York

Please repair damage accidently done to her coat of arms. Our mistake. 175.33.83.65 (talk) 11:04, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

I've undone your last edit to the coat of arms. Dbfirs 11:21, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia search button and search results not working.

Hello.

Something is wrong with Wikipedia - search button does not working correctly as it does not send me to article I want to visit. And if I type article's name partially, it sends me to search results page where article's full name is presented yet I still cannot access to article.

This problem is presence since last night. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfapeet (talk • contribs) 14:35, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

If you give us an example of what you've been searching for, we can have a look. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:37, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

This problem is presence with EVERY article I tried to search. Most recently with "The Children of Times Square". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfapeet (talk • contribs) 14:40, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

No problem here. You say "... article's full name is presented yet I still cannot access to article"; what error message do you get when you try to access the article? As it isn't a problem with Wikipedia, have you tried restarting your computer? And if you're having a problem in one browser have you tried using different browser? --David Biddulph (talk) 14:47, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

No errors. Only "loading circle" appeared for half a second. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfapeet (talk • contribs) 15:00, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Ford V8 Pilot

Incorrect information on the above Wikipedia article. The Ford V8 Pilot saloon was NOT based on the 1935 model 48 model, but was in fact based on the 1936/7 Ford V8 model "22" body shell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Woodieguyuk (talk • contribs) 20:24, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Woodieguyuk You may want to bring this up on the article talk page(Talk:Ford Pilot) so editors that might follow that page will see it; you will need to have reliable sources to support what you state. 331dot (talk) 20:35, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

October 27

Editing a BLP to include a birthday

I am acquainted with the subject of a Wikipedia BLP. The subject would like the article about them to reflect their actual birth date (rather than just the year), but there seems not to be a RS for it anywhere. The subject has expressed to me their willingness to share a scan of their birth certificate, by way of verification. (In fact, they offered that I could post it to the article talk page, but I am obviously reluctant to do that.) I am not well-versed in this area; is there a workable mechanism to add this information? Thanks, JBL (talk) 00:30, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

No, there is no way to do that with documents such as you describe. We do not draw on what purports to be original research or statements from the subject of the article, but on published content in reliable sources. So, if an article in the Journal of the American Medical Association or the Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction mentions the birth date, we could use it; but anybody can post what purports to be a birth certificate. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:07, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

WP:SELFPUB allows something like the birth date if they publish it on an official website or somewhere a reader can confirm it is them. It is not enough that a Wikipedia editor knows it is really them. See also WP:BLPPRIVACY. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:21, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

@Orangemike: I understand how reliable sourcing works. (That should have been obvious from my comment.) I was asking about other avenues. @PrimeHunter: Thanks, so you think WP:SELFPUB is the best/only other option? (WP:BLPPRIVACY is the opposite of the relevant issue here.) --JBL (talk) 12:20, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Yes, WP:SELFPUB is needed if there is no published reliable source. WP:BLPPRIVACY is opposite but means we have to be extra careful to check that the subject doesn't mind having it published. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:29, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Got it, thanks -- I will pass the information along. --JBL (talk) 13:55, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Saturday Night Football

What No Saturday Night Football Game November 2. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 00:42, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

If an article is missing some information, please be Bold and add it, or post on that article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 01:53, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

A user has violated 1RR

I believe that LD1998 has violated 1RR on the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries article. Specifically, these two edits here: [1] and [2]. David O. Johnson (talk) 01:38, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

@David O. Johnson: Please follow the instructions at Talk:2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries on how to post to the noticeboard for this. RudolfRed (talk) 01:56, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. I have started the process. David O. Johnson (talk) 02:32, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Editing the page Comfort women

Hello, I would like to ask you how I can edit this page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfort_women

I'm researching a bit about this issue. However, this page is only focus on the Japanese. I know 122 the UN and the US Korean comfort women sued Korean government in 2014. I would like to add this fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usagidot (talk • contribs) 02:41, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Usagidot, Then be bold and add it! That's the fundamental spirit of Wikipedia: anyone can edit it. If you see something you want to change, do it. If you don't yet have enough edits to make the change, then leave a message on Talk:Comfort women and discuss the change there. Make sure that if you add material that it has a reliable source, which you include. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 04:28, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

The article Comfort women is semi-protected due to persistent disruptive editing, which means that it can only be edited by "autoconfirmed" users - in most cases this means Wikipedia user accounts that are more than four days old and have made at least 10 edits. Usagidot does not meet those criteria yet, so instead go the article's Talk page (Talk:Comfort women) and request the change you want there, using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template to gain attention. Please be specific about exactly what words you want added / deleted / changed at what point in the article, and as CaptainEek says be sure to include a reliable reference to support your statements.--Gronk Oz (talk) 06:36, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

How to get deleted page re-added

Hello,

There was a page called “Jordan Lawson” that was deleted a while ago and I am writing to find out how to get the page re-added or how to create a new one if original page cannot be re-added. Thank you! There are several reliable and independent sources related to this person that would help/alleviate any previous issue(s) about the page and why it may have been deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.82.185 (talk) 06:04, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. The article was deleted in November 2017 after a discussion (at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jordan_Lawson). That previous discussion said that "acting and musician roles are minor ... the three references are a press release and two blog posts." So the first thing you should do is to read through that discussion and be certain that the situation has genuinely changed, and those reasons for deleting it no longer apply. Then the next step would be to approach the deleting Admin (Edgar181) to explain why you believe he is notable now. Provide specific references. Please note that there are specific criteria for an actor or musician being notable, at WP:MUSICBIO or WP:NACTOR, and you will need to show how he meets these criteria. --Gronk Oz (talk) 06:23, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Muhammad Tariq Waseem

Extended non-help-desk related content

INNOVATIVE PANACEAS FOR PAKISTAN’S CORRUPTION ILLS AUTHORS’S PROFILE A. 1. Government College University, Lahore a) Director, Planning & Development b) M.Phil. Economics Students Research Thesis Supervisor c) Member, University Purchase Committee d) Member, University Works Committee e) In charge, Career Guidance and Placement Centre f) In charge, Research Projects g) Convener, Project Monitoring Committee 2. Chief Economist / General Manager (Planning), Punjab Industrial Development Board, (PIDB), Lahore. 3. Subject Specialist (Economics and English), Punjab Textbook Board, Lahore. 4. Research and Statistical Officer, Lahore Chamber of Commerce and Industry, Lahore 5. Member, Sick Units Committee, Government of the Punjab 6. Member, Industrial Policy for Punjab, Government of the Punjab 7. Member, Industrial Technology Policy, Government of Pakistan 8. Author, Weekly ‘’Investment Guide’’, Daily ‘’The Pakistan Times’’ Lahore 9. Economic Advisor, DESCON Group of Companies Lahore. 10. Consultant, Punjab Economic Research Institute, Lahore. 11. Member, Board of Directors, Pattoki Sugar Mills, Pattoki 12. Co.opt. Member, Working Group on Promotion of Investment, Federal Ministry of Finance. B. Estimated Total No. of Economics Research Studies, PC1s, Publications, Articles, Projects, Textbooks of English Nearly 350 and Economics and Industrial and Business Feasibility Studies, etc. C. Latest Book (2017) “Pakistan’s Corruption Tsunami: Curse, Contours, Causes, Challenges and Cures” (166 pages).

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nusratali3625 (talk • contribs) 08:13, 27 October 2019 (UTC) 

Do you have a question related to using or editing Wikipedia. If so, please post it in this thread. Please note, Wikipedia is not a place for political debate or for advancing causes. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 10:31, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

What will happen if the US will censor you?

You're not censored, but you're on the US servers What will you do if the US will try to censor you? The US have the first amendment and all this, but the US still did lynch black people in the 19 century or did censor any socialism in the 20 century. If there will be a world war 3 the US can fall into censorship. What will you do then? Go to .onion? 37.171.117.31 (talk) 11:15, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

This page is not for posing hypotheticals, but a place to seek assistance with using Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 11:18, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

You can try to ask this at User talk:Jimbo Wales. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:45, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Work theft

Hello ! I know that everything I do on wikipedia is without copyright, and that's perfectly fine. However, I usually prepare big projects on my sandbox. Recently, a user took an unfinished project from my sandbox to post it on the article I was working on, without asking me and therefore using my work under their username. Am I at the right place ? What are my options ? Because I don't think this is in any way a correct behavior...

CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 11:38, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

@CocoricoPolynesien: They have to attribute the source per Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia, e.g. with "Copied content from User:CocoricoPolynesien/sandbox" in the edit summary. You can do it in a dummy edit to the article, making it clear which edit you refer to. You can also ask them to do it. It's unusual to copy content from an active user without asking them but it's not officially against rules. You could try to deter it with a big notice at top saying something like "This is draft material and not currently suited for mainspace". If others have not spend time on it in the article then you could also ask the user to revert it so you can post it when it is ready. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:09, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thank you very much ! CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 12:21, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

@CocoricoPolynesien: Your work is copyrighted, you own the copyright, and the other user violated your copyright because they did not adhere to the terms of the license (CC-BY-SA) that you granted to that user (and to everybody else, of course) when you put it in your sandbox. We do not have a mechanism to remedy this. If you are only slightly annoyed, do as PrimeHunter suggested. If you feel very strongly about this, then undo the other user's edit as a copyright violation and then insert your material under your own name. If the other user does not acknowledge that they committed a copyright violation, we can go further, but please try to handle this yourself simplify life for our overworked volunteers. -Arch dude (talk) 16:18, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

@Arch dude: I have put a notice on my sandbox and did a dummy edit as PrimeHunter told me. I've also noticed the user and he/she apologized. I do not wish to go any further as the situation was resolved peacefully. Thank you too for your response ! CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 21:56, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Creating a page for Brooke Besikof

How does a page get created for Brooke Besikof — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8802:2000:32A:C409:F320:12A9:F252 (talk) 17:07, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

You can use the Article Wizard to create a draft of the article. Once you've created a draft, you can submit it for review, where experienced editors will look over it to make sure it meets our policies, and then will create it for you. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 19:11, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

But remember that it won't be a "page for" Brooke Besikof, but an article about Brooke Besikof, and will be based on what independent people have published about the subject, not on what the subject says or wants to say. --ColinFine (talk) 23:57, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

@2600:8802:2000:32A:C409:F320:12A9:F252: There doesn't seem to be enough media coverage of her to warrant an article. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 06:52, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

"Span style" change?

Hello all, I have been maintaining the sort portion of the sortable table at "List of online music databases" since 2013. Recently I've noticed that there has been a deep-level change that has broken the workaround that I used to use to accomplish proper sorting. I took a brief look through the Help Desk to see if I could find any discussion of this and the closest I could find from this year was this thread answered by PrimeHunter, but I don't know if this is actually relevant... I'm guessing the change may have happened in 2018 and I just missed the memo. I've been unavailable for much of 2018 so that's my assumption, but I know that workaround worked as of 15 December 2017‎.

Anyway does anyone know how to accomplish the same kind of sorting as I was using previously? What's the modern way to force a <span style="display:none">&020000000-style sort?

Apologies in advance if my question is explained poorly. -Thibbs (talk) 17:08, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

I have implemented the current standard method with data-sort-type="number" to force number sorting, and using data-sort-value when a cell does not start with a number or should sort by another number.[3] PrimeHunter (talk) 19:36, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! -Thibbs (talk) 19:39, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

CC BY-SA 2.0 and sui generis database right

Before going further, could I check whether this is the right place to ask about the applicability of CC BY-SA 2.0 to sui generis database right? I've looked at the help page here and it only mentions 3.0. Thanks. Eteb3 (talk) 20:14, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

New Editor: Querying articles tagged with templates or mentioning key words in the talk page

Hi there,

tl;dr (skip to the questions) I'm a new editor interested in reviewing articles that exhibit contradictions (articles that contradict themselves, other articles, or external sources). I think the templates {{Contradicts others}} and {{Self-contradictory}} are relevant insofar as other editors can use them to mark articles they've identified as having contradictions. There also appear to be categories like the one below that compile these, but it doesn't look like they're updated often.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Articles_contradicting_other_articles&pageuntil=Sinora#mw-pages

My three questions:

1. Is there a way for me to query existing articles that have been tagged with templates like "Contradicts others"?
2. Is there a way for me to query existing articles for which the talk pages uses the word "contradiction"?
3. Is there a way for me to query articles that have previously been tagged with templates like "Contradicts others", but which are no longer (e.g., because the contradiction was resolved)? (so I can, e.g., look at how past editors have handled contradictions - just delete the fact under consideration, cite to external sources, reach out to the person who added the fact to begin with, etc.)

Thanks! Jw 135813 (talk) 20:19, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

@Jw 135813:Welcome, and thanks. We need all the help we can get. One way to find the articles that use a template is to go to the template page and then click on the "what links here" link in the left-hand column. To find all talk pages with the word "contradiction", you will need to do an advanced search. The advanced search box is available at the top of the search results page. start by searching for "contradiction", then use advanced search to restrict your search to the "talk:" space, like this. For your third question, you need search skills beyond mine. I would use editorial judgement instead: find sources and fix the contradiction in the article text based on the sources, with references. When the sources disagree, note the contradiction in the text unless one of the sources is clearly in error. -Arch dude (talk) 15:59, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

How to change the appearance of a page

On this page (User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro/Sandbox/Page128) ... what do I need to do, to make the three boxes appear side-by-side ... instead of on top of one another? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:55, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Here is one way to do it with Help:Table#Side by side tables and {{nowrap begin}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:46, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thank you. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:49, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Resolved

(Fancy shmancy searching) with (plain as rain hit list)

When searching for articles is there a way to get output that is just a simple list of wikilinked article titles, and little else? The idea is to have one per line on one screen of text. Thanks NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 21:16, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

@NewsAndEventsGuy: There may be better ways, but one way to do this is to search using AutoWikiBrowser. It provides dozens of ways to create a list of articles, one of them being to run a Special:Search-style search in mainspace. And having built a list, one of the things you can do with it is to save it as a text file, one-per-line with double square brackets. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:46, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, John, I haven't ever looked at that. Will be fun to check out. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 21:50, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

You can place this in your CSS if you want it permanently:

.searchresult {display: none;}
.mw-search-result-data {display: none;}

You could also place it in a skin.css which is not your default like Special:MyPage/monobook.css to enable seeing it by changing skin or adding &useskin=monobook to a search url. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:08, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

That is sweet!! Thanks PrimeHunter! NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 23:10, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter:, @AnybodyElse... is there way to make a checkbox or toggle? Someway to flip to the simple format without having to remember the url tweak or drill down in preferences? NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 00:17, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

I examined Wikipedia:User scripts/List#Search and found Search Suite which lists it as one of the features. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:20, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Awesome again! One more question since you're on a roll... I'm in the US, so what PowerBall numbers should I pick? ............. Thanks very much! NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 13:29, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Subpage in mainspace

I recently stumbled upon Antonio Vivaldi/The Four Seasons, which is a redirect that no mainspace article links to. As far as I know, Wikipedia doesn't allow subpages in the mainspace. What should be done about this page? ◢   Ganbaruby!   (talk to me) 22:22, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby: Since there are no subpages in main space, the / is part of the article name. You don't need to do anything with the redirect. RudolfRed (talk) 23:19, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

As WP:SP#History of subpages explains, subpages were used in article space until 2004; this redirect, which dates back to 2003, is a relic from that system. These very old redirects are specifically mentioned in point 4 of WP:RKEEP as redirects that should be kept, as it's likely there are incoming links to them from other websites. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 13:13, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Whitespace in the Bangkok lede on Chrome

Anyone else see a giant paragraphs-long whitespace after the word "uprisings" and before "The city grew rapidly" in the Bangkok article. I see it in Chrome on Mac OSX, but not Safari. Anyone know what's going on there? I don't see any errant clear tags, etc. Brycehughes (talk) 00:58, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Looks ok on Windows Chrome. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:10, 28 October 2019 (UTC).

Also looks ok to me on Windows Chrome. There were similar reports with no resolution at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 176#Woolworth Building. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:09, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I suppose I'll leave it at that then. Thanks all. Brycehughes (talk) 18:26, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

October 28

Computer-aided engineering

The section Overview needs an overhaul, if anyone can spare the time. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:07, 28 October 2019 (UTC).

@Rich Farmbrough: You're better off posting on the article's talk page. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 06:48, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, you may be right, but no-one has commented there since 2012. Thanks also to CaptainEek, for fixing it. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 09:32, 28 October 2019 (UTC).

Facebook page

Could someone make contact with the owner/managers of the official Facebook page of Glengallan Homestead & Heritage Centre.

Your (unofficial) G�lengallan Homestead Facebook page is causing confusion among people wishing to post to ours. Also there is incorrect information on your page, specifically in relation to the heritage listing citation which is currently being reviewed to address inaccuracies/currency of information.

Is it possible to have a merge< Or for you to remove your unofficial "Glengallan Homestead" site?

We are a not-for profit staffed and administered by volunteers We would appreciate assistance/contact

DON�NA� F�RASER Chair, Glengallan Homestead Trust Ltd info@glengallan.com.au — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.128.107.180 (talk) 01:52, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

I added a header to your question. We have nothing to do with Facebook. You will need to reach out to either the page owners or to Facebook to help. RudolfRed (talk) 02:22, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata updates showing on Wikipedia

Hi,

If we update a company name on Wikidata, will it be refreshed at Wikipedia? if not, how can we refresh a company name on Wikipedia.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TORM (talk • contribs) 09:21, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

You would have to move the article, and change any relevant text. Be careful, though, Wikipedia is not for promoting a new corporate identity. The name of the article should follow WP:COMMONNAME for example, and historic references should remain accurate. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 09:34, 28 October 2019 (UTC).

Also TORM, please note that 1) if you are associated with the company, then you should declare this fact, and should not edit the article directly (see COI and PAID); and if the company in question is Dampskibsselskabet Torm, you must change your user name. Wikipedia accounts are individual, and must not give the impression that they exist on behalf of any organisation: see WP:SHAREDACCOUNT. --ColinFine (talk) 09:43, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Removing issue banner

I am new to Wiki and I want to help improve some of the content I have found. I found a page with these issues:

-A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. (July 2017) -This biography of a living person needs additional citations for verification. (November 2016)

I tried updating the page with additional citations and information, and as I have no close connection with the subject, I thought it would be OK to remove the issue banner but it seems to have reappeared.

How can I improve what I've done to remove this issue banner? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joebeebee (talk • contribs) 12:05, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

@Joebeebee: Your removal of the templates was undone reverted by Melcous (pinging Melcous, in case they would wish to comment) with the edit summary "revert removal of maintenance templates without addressing issues". Although you added 2 citations, they do not appear to deal with the sources issue any more than partly (at best) and do not address the WP:COI issue at all. Some helpful links will be left at your talk page. If an edit is reverted you can discuss the matter, preferably at the article talk page Ping the other editor. Or, you can leave a message at their talk page. Provide a link to pages you wish to discuss and (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 12:23, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

How authority management is created ?

There are articles with and without authority management, but how are they different? I also want to create an authority management column for the article I am writing, but I don't know how. Is it possible to create authority management with ISBN: data? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.169.16.95 (talk) 12:29, 28 October 2019 (UTC) --111.169.16.95 (talk) 12:31, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Authority control and {{Authority control}}. Authority control does not use ISBN. {{ISBN}} will link a page like ISBN 0-7475-3269-9. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:44, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

New submission

Hello, I'm stuck since I'm 75 years old and because your program is not intuitive, I cannot follow your complicated directions but think that the bio that I wrote in my SandBox last month of Frank Gorell (French hornist, industrialist, benefactor, advocate) is a very important addition to Wiki's biographies.

I did click to submit to a Wiki editor, but have had no response.

Please assist. Thank you.

Sara Lambert Bloom

PS See now I can't even see where to hit "send" to the help desk...am I alone in my bemuddlement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sara Lambert Bloom (talk • contribs) 13:23, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Sara Lambert Bloom, this is a question that would be better suited for the Tea House, but I will give an answer for you here. First of all, your article is a wall of text, with no formatting at all, I would advise that you read Your First Article, this will tell you how to write an article, and as for there being no response, you did not submit it for review. I would advise you go to Articles for Creation to get more information on how the article creating process works. Also, please sign your posts on talk pages with four tildes, like this “~~~~” Thank you. LakesideMiners^{Come Talk To Me!} 13:52, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Sara Lambert Bloom, and welcome to Wikipedia! The send/save button is these days called "Publish changes" (legal reasons), and this has indeed befuddled people.

Your draft User:Sara Lambert Bloom/sandbox can be submitted with the blue button marked "Submit your draft for review", but please don't do that, it will be rejected in it's current form. Apart from being a big block of text, it has no inline citations, and language like " In this Frank Gorell stands forever as a beacon." is called WP:PUFFERY around here, as in it is not proper language for a WP-article.

Writing a WP-article that sticks is hard for a WP-newbie (and not that easy for anyone), and there is a learning curve. You have mentioned one source [4] and it's not a bad one, but it is not enough. Take the time to read Help:Your first article and Wikipedia:Notability (people) carefully, then think about how/if you want to proceed. Oldperson, pinging you if you wish to comment. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:54, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Relisting?

A bit of a pickle... Are nominators allowed to relist their own nominations on RfD? James-the-Charizard (talk to me!) (contribs) 14:16, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

This is discouraged as with any XfD. Ruslik_Zero 20:48, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

New bio?

How do I send/edit my bio-data? Thank you. Jay — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsekera (talk • contribs) 14:21, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

@Gsekera: Hello, Some useful links will be left at your talk page. If you wish to tell the Wikipedia community a little about yourself and how you wish to contribute to the encyclopedia, then your userpage is how you do that. (Click on the red 'Geskera' in these posts and you will be taken there). Wikipedia is not a site where you can create a profile or article about yourself; I.e. it is not a form of social media in the manner of Facebook or similar sites. If you wish to contribute an article about someone else, please read the guide to a first article and also the general notability guide. Feel free to ask here or at the teahouse (which is more aimed at new contributors) if you need assistance. Eagleash (talk) 14:56, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

wiki

how can I have a wiki written about me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.4.62 (talk) 14:48, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Become sufficiently famous in real life that multiple, Reliable sources (please follow the link and read the whole piece) with no connection to you, such as reputable newspapers, magazines and book publishers, publish significant amounts about you that are not based on information directly supplied by yourself, your relatives, your friends, your employees (if any), your publicity agent (if any) or anyone else in any way renumerated directly or indirectly by you. This is the basic qualification for being considered "Notable" (please follow and read) – i.e. well-enough documented that an article about you (or anyone) is allowed here.

There are about 6,000,000 articles on this English-language Wikipedia; probably less than 100,000 (my wild guess, someone can probably give a real figure) are about currently living people. Since there are about 7,000,000,000 people alive right now, that means only about 1 out of every 70,000 living people have so far qualified for an article. Do you think you are as 'famous' (i.e. publicly well-documented) as that? If and when you are, someone else will almost certainly decide to create an article about you with no prompting from you. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.41.118 (talk) 15:20, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

There are 931,718 articles about living people at the moment. Jeb³_{Talk at me here}^{What I've Done} 15:24, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

As many as that? I also see on checking that the World population was estimated at about 7,700,000,000 as of last April, so about 1 in 8,300 then: still a large number. (Thanks for the accurate BLP figure, Jebcubed. I guessed there was a way to find out, but didn't want to spend the time looking for it.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.41.118 (talk) 20:09, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

More fun with statistics; something like one out of every five BLP articles is about a soccer player. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:29, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

That seems very high. I thought it was 1 out of 5 was athletes... Would love to see the stats on this one! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:01, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Lee Vilenski Statistics I mentioned above jumped out at me when reading this discussion a couple months ago. As you can see from the chart posted by Levivich in that discussion; there are (were at the time) 908,260 BLPs, of which 141,462 were football (soccer for Americans) players. More than double the number of bios for Baseball, Basketball, Ice hockey, Rugby, Cricket, and NFL players combined. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 21:47, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Dr. Chang Yi Wang

Chang Yi Wang (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

> We have had the biography of Dr. Chang Yi Wang on Wikipedia for some time now. > Recently, we noted that all information except for very few details, > has been deleted. We have re-edited and included the information, > however, each time it is all deleted.

> Checking the top of the page we noted that the main issue is that it reads like an > advertisement. I must confess that I am not very proficient at Wiki > but am trying to help to get the information on the page. I have reviewed other bios and don't really see much > difference from what we had previously included. Would you be able to take a look a what has been uploaded and then deleted so I can see where we are wrong and what we need to do. --> > Thank you for your assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bulmal (talk • contribs) 16:35, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Bulmal, Howdy hello! A detailed explanation of the issues has been left on the talk page, Talk:Chang_Yi_Wang. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 20:40, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Userpage toolbar

When I look at certain userpages, e.g., User:Ogolotswe, I see a vertical toolbar with icons off to the right, although I can move it. Why?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:44, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

@Bbb23: The page curation (for new pages) toolbar? Eagleash (talk) 18:11, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Have no idea.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:13, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

That's what was at the userpage you linked to. It's what you see if you review a new page via 'New Page Patrol' though I would have thought you would only see it if you have the NPP 'flag'. Do you have this (or AfC reviewer)? Eagleash (talk) 18:23, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

My guess is those permissions are subsumed when one is an administrator. I assume one only sees that toolbar on userpages, not new articles?--Bbb23 (talk) 18:38, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

I was under the impression you were an admin, but not certain... Nope that's what I see when clicking 'review' from NPP (or if I encounter a new page when just 'surfing' Wikipedia). There doesn't seem to be a logical reason why it appears on some userpages... that was a relativley new account with very few edits (now blocked SP)... maybe it triggered some filter or other; I expect 'Prime' will know! Eagleash (talk) 20:03, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

@Bbb23: That should be the page curation tool. It should show up on all unpatrolled main space pages, but it also shows up sometimes on user pages for reasons I'm not sure of. Perhaps it just shows up on users who aren't yet autoconfirmed? It would make sense, as their user pages would be more likely to be vandalism or have U5 issues. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 20:37, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

My page is no longer on Wikipedia?

A page was created for Marina Franklin - comedian and it is no longer there, what happened and how can I get that back on here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marinafranklin (talk • contribs) 20:15, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Marinafranklin It was deleted as a result of this discussion. Basically, the article as written did not meet the requirements outlined here and here. The main thing to remember is that all articles must be on topics that Wikipedia considers to be notable, and a person is notable "if he or she has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." The article did not cite reliable secondary sources about her life and career. If you would like, I can restore it as a draft, so that additional sources can be added. However, if you are Marina Franklin or work for her, please read our conflict of interest guidelines and this page about autobiographical articles. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:24, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Marinafranklin: Hello, the page was deleted following a discussion here as the fairly stringent Wikipedia notability guidelines had not been 'passed'. See that page for more information and also WP:ENT. The page was deleted with a proviso that it could be restored (preferably as a draft so it could be improved). See WP:REFUND for more information. Please note it would not be 'your' page, but Wikipedia's article about the subject. Please also see why this is not always a good idea and WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY if applicabe. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 20:32, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Not sure if I can use photo from library website for wikipedia page

I would like to add a photo to a wikipedia page that was recently created. I found a photo of the person on the website of our local library. The photo was donated to the public library archival collection from an unknown source. The date and author of the photo are not indicated on the photo, but a newspaper article with an almost identical photo did contain a date and name of the photographer that I assume also applies to the photo I'd like to use. The library website states that "Materials in this collection may be used freely for any purpose, with attribution to the Carnegie Library for Local History, Boulder... Questions of copyright are the responsibility of the user." The library staff said I could use the photo if proper attribution to the library was given.

Are there any copyright issues with uploading this photo to wikimedia commons and then adding it to the wikipedia page for this person? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bklein61 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Is thia a rhetorical question? Ruslik_Zero 20:46, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

No it is a legitimate question because I'm not sure I understand Wikipedia's rules about using someone else's photographs. But I take it from your comment that you don't see any problem using the photo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bklein61 (talk • contribs) 21:45, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Bklein61, Howdy hello! Thanks for double checking with us, as copyright rules are pretty strict. Make sure that you do properly attribute the photo when uploaded to commons, noting that it is free for use as long as attribution is provided. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 22:44, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate your helpful response! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bklein61 (talk • contribs) 23:09, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

@Bklein61:This does not sound right. "Photo was donated" is not the same as "copyright was conveyed", so we have no way to know if the library has the right to license the copyright ("permission to use with attribution"). Can you please check with the library? Of course if the picture is from before 1924, it's in the public domain and no permission is needed. -Arch dude (talk) 04:05, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Sister Act (musical)

OK. I've been watching this article over the past year. For some reason, it's become an international resume for any and all theater that launches a production of this musical. It's becoming ridiculous. The info-box alone now has TWENTY-SEVEN production locations. Why!? Millions of musicals are produced around the world every day in cities across the globe, but WP doesn't list them every time they hit a city. The Other productions section has become a dumping ground for those who wish to list their productions. None of this is notable or worthy of inclusion for this article or at WP. The show hasn't even won one award! Why on earth is it being treated at WP as though it's the greatest musical ever written!? Someone needs to go in and put a stop to all this overweight resume style listings and do a good scrub cleaning. Thoughts? Maineartists (talk) 22:22, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Maineartists, I would say: be bold and fix it! I agree, all those musicals shouldn't be listed in the infobox, as they aren't notable. Good eye for catching that. Feel free to go ahead and remedy the problem. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 22:46, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Will do, CaptainEek. Thanks! Maineartists (talk) 22:52, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

October 29

Inflammatory Entry

The page for Functional Medicine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_medicine) was populated with misinformation by an opponent David Gorski. Is it possible to fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.67.102.194 (talk) 01:16, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

You can contribute to the discussion on the article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 01:49, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

See WP:LUNATICS, WP:MEDRS and WP:FRINGE/PS. Tgeorgescu (talk) 12:18, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Navbox not collapsing

Hello, does anyone know why |state=collapsed is not working on the navbox on Ichi-F? Opencooper (talk) 05:42, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

@Opencooper: Fixed with this edit to the navbox. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:15, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

@John of Reading: Thank you! Opencooper (talk) 07:17, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Draft page Arts of Manipur

Why was the page Arts of Manipur being deleted, when there was adequate references, citations, and no criteria for deletion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goutamkumar Oinam (talk • contribs) 05:42, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Are you thinking of Art forms of Manipur?   Maproom (talk) 06:43, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

It has not been deleted. It was moved to Draft:Arts of Manipur as it was in an unacceptable condition for an article (it cited only one source, a site which promotes tourism). You then moved it to Art forms of Manipur, without improving the referencing. If it remains there without improvement, it is likely to be deleted. Maproom (talk) 07:00, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

... mathematical ... or ...

Why would I not helping Wikipedia little. Joking...

Entering to Subject, Would you suggest recomendable, or ... not, mathematical article?

122.197.12.190 (talk) 06:53, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Howdy hello! Not quite sure what you're getting at, but I assume you're asking if you should edit an article on math. If you're looking for a math related article to help out on, why not check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 07:56, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Constanze Mozart

May need an admin to step in here, please. As you can see: Constanze Mozart History there is a problem with a persistent removal of a complete section by The Great Corrector without proper discussion on the Talk Page. I do believe WP:3RR has been reached, and consensus by reversion by separate editors overrules the one. Any help here? Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 11:34, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

This isn't the place to contact an admin. When applicable, WP:AN3 is the place, but if you are claiming violation of WP:3RR you need to remember that strictly 3RR refers to more that 3 reversions in a 24 hour period, which hasn't occurred in this case. There has obviously been slow edit-warring, but it appears that nobody has yet raised this on the user's talk page, nor on the article talk page. Those are the steps to take before seeking admin help. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:33, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

This appears to be a slow edit war, but it does not violate WP:3RR, as the reverts have all been more than 24 hours apart. Try to open a discussion with the editor on the talk page. If that doesn't enable you to come to an agreement, try other forms of dispute resolution. Danski454 (talk) 12:38, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the informative direction! Headed there now. Thanks again. Maineartists (talk) 12:43, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

How to post information on a notable person

I want to know whether I can post the information myself on their behalf or whether we can hire the services of a professional wikipedia editor to do it and the cost for it. Your early response will be much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geeta1360 (talk • contribs) 13:11, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

@Geeta1360: If you have a relationship with the notable person, please do not add the information yourself, instead make a conflict of interest edit request. I would suggest that you do not hire a paid editor, but if you do, make sure they follow our paid editor policy. Danski454 (talk) 13:20, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Geeta1360. If you are editing (or contemplating editing) Wikipedia on behalf of anybody or anything other than Wikipedia itself, then you have misunderstood Wikipedia. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, which contains neutral, sourced articles about notable subjects: it may not be used for promotion of any kind. An article about your notable person does not belong to that person, and they (and their associates) do not have control of its contents. If you choose to pay somebody to edit, they cannot guarantee any particular outcome. In particular, if your notable person does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then no article about them is possible. --ColinFine (talk) 14:43, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Information onto Wikipedia

What do I have to do, or avoid doing, in order to post information upon a Wikipedia subject ? Regards, Steve Gordon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.7.175.85 (talk) 17:47, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Howdy hello! Anytime you edit, make sure that the information you're adding comes from a reliable source. Think news sites, newspapers, magazines, books, and scientific journals. If you'd like to make an article from scratch, you can use the WP:Article Wizard to make a draft version, which will then be reviewed by experienced editors to make sure it meets our policies. If you'd like a fun way to learn about all our core policies, why not check out The Wikipedia Adeventure. You may also wish to read Wikipedia:Tutorial. Wikipedia has a lot of policies, and it can sure be confusing, so don't be afraid to ask for more specific help! Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 18:00, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

HIERARCHICAL PROCESSING

Why is there almost 6 million pages in the english wikipedia, and not one of them is about hierarchical proessing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.211.35.40 (talk) 18:42, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

If you think an article is missing, please go ahead and create it. We are all volunteers. See WP:YFA for how to get started. RudolfRed (talk) 18:46, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Making edits to a page

Hello! The organization I work for recently went through a rebrand and when I tried to edit our wikipedia page, all of the content I put up was taken down and I had to deal with a really rude contributor who told me to "sit this one out hun" because I was bias. I want to know how to go about making the necessary updates to our page seeing as the information there currently is incorrect. I would also like to know how I should go about suggesting edits in the future seeing as I am incapable of making necessary edits without being bias.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Medical_Objects

^^ This is the page that needs editing. All of the products have been rebranded and changed so the products that are currently listed are incorrect. Below are our updated products:

- IMO Core – A clinical interface terminology (CIT) solution that includes a suite of tools to enhance problem list management in the EHR. It improves workflows and ensures accurate documentation so clinicians can focus on care, not coding and reimbursements.

- IMO Core Procedure – A medical procedure terminology solution that enables clinicians and healthcare IT professionals to select relevant and familiar procedure terms while mapping them to appropriate billing and reference codes. A team of credentialed HIM and laboratory professionals meticulously map codes to enhance the quality of procedure documentation in the HER, providing clinicians with peace of mind, knowing that their clinical intent is not only captured, but also preserved, throughout the system.

- IMO Core Periop – An OR optimization solution that does the heavy lifting of standardizing, coding and maintaining the procedures in your surgical dictionary by leveraging the perioperative nursing expertise of AORN (Association of perioperative Registered Nurses) and our industry-leading clinical terminology. IMO Core Periop allows you to customize your dictionary from our menu of over 50,000 base procedure names, as well as refine it by exposing duplicate terms.

- IMO Precision Sets – A robust value set solution that continuously defines the inclusion or exclusion of specific patient cohorts to help healthcare providers inform quality reporting, support better clinical decision making and understand patient populations. Continuously curated and maintained by a dedicated team of clinical terminologists, IMO Precision Sets leverages our industry-leading clinical interface terminology offering (IMO Core) and proprietary tooling that far exceeds the capabilities of typical spreadsheet-generated solutions.

In addition, our CEO, Ann Barnes, is currently linked to pop singer which is inaccurate. We would like our key people to show: - Ann Barnes, CEO - Frank Naeymi-Rad, Co-Founder and Chairman of the Board

Thank you.

104.8.225.57 (talk) 19:35, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Response on Suggested Edits

Hi there! I suggested edits to a page a few weeks ago because some numbers were out of date, and have not had an editor respond. Can you provide me with some additional info how I can get the ball rolling on this? Linking to the page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity:_Water Thanks in advance for your time and feedback! For full disclosure, I work with a public relations firm that represents the brand. --Saurilia (talk) 19:59, 29 October 2019 (UTC)