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* You will be missed. --[[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 15:48, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
* You will be missed. --[[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 15:48, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
* This is rather disappointing. I wish you well in retirement. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 16:14, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
* This is rather disappointing. I wish you well in retirement. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 16:14, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
* :( '''<span style="background-color: #8fe38f;">[[User:The creeper2007|The creeper2007]]<sup>[[user_talk:The creeper2007|Talk!]]</sup></span>''' <span style="color:#228B22"><sup><i><b> Be well, stay safe</b></i></sup></span> 11:32, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

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Retired
This user is no longer active on Wikipedia as of June 22, 2020, due to ArbCom. I may edit once in a great while.

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ArbCom and me

ArbCom has informed me that I am using my CU privileges in ways that violate policy. They have ordered me to limit my checking to "non-discretionary" cases (not easy to define). They have warned me that if I check in a manner that they deem violates policy, my CU privileges will be removed without further warning.

I disagree with ArbCom's decision, but there's zero I can do about it. Nonetheless, I do not want to work for an organization that (1) hamstrings my ability to prevent disruption caused by socking, (2) micromanages my actions, and (3) is unappreciative of my CU work. For these reasons, I am leaving the project. I'm angry and upset at the moment, so I won't categorically say I will never return, but I don't plan on it.

Best wishes to all who do good work here. I will not be responding to messages posted to my Talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:07, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

I hope you change your mind, Bbb23. You are the Checkuser I turn to whenever I have questions. I hope you return. Liz Read! Talk! 01:36, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
User:Bbb23, I continue to be impressed by your work, and wish you would stay. The political issues with being a checkuser must be tricky and hard to evaluate. Not every case will be clearcut. But you probably knew that! EdJohnston (talk) 01:54, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I simply did not need this terrible news in the midst of this crisis. Bbb23, I hope you reevaluate your departure and you come back asap. Thank you for the excellent CU work you have done on all the SPIs through the years, and especially the many times you helped me in the SPIs I had opened. Thank you also for all the socks your CU pixie dust tool stopped in their tracks. Take care and stay safe. Dr. K. 02:40, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You are one of the best and most valuable admins that the project has. I certainly understand your reasons for leaving and I will be among the many who will be glad if you return. But absolutely do what is best for you. My very best wishes to you and yours and I hope that you stay safe and well. MarnetteD|Talk 02:50, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's hard to believe anything as crazy as this dated April 1. Message from Arbcom to community: we don't care, socks are not our problem. It's painful to think that Arbcom has accomplished what trolls have been trying to achieve for years. Johnuniq (talk) 03:05, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
what What WHAT??? This is indeed a disturbing and sad turn of events. Thanks for all you have done here! DMacks (talk) 05:07, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • ArbCom, wtf? Bbb23, please take the time, but we need you back. Without people like you, very likely exactly you, we'll have NOTHERE's laughing at our faces while we wait for the SPI backlog to never clear. Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:33, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • ArbCom seems determined to get rid of our best admins. Please come back soon. Softlavender (talk) 17:00, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very sorry to hear it. I hope you do return. I, along with others, appreciate your work as a CU. Crossroads -talk- 18:48, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Peace, Bbb. If and when you do ever feel like returning you'll be more than welcome by a large majority of those aware of your work here. And thank you for making transparent what ArbCom intended to be "a private advisory note to" or "a quiet word with" you, according to some of the committee's members. ---Sluzzelin talk 19:34, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry to hear that Bbb23. You do very fine work. I hope you will reconsider, and come back please! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:19, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm extremely saddened to see this, You were beyond amazing with the CU work you did and I truly mean that, You're a fantastic admin and a fantastic editor too, I hope one day you'll return but in the meantime I wish you all the very best, Thank you for your CU work and admin work across the project, Take care, Dave /// –Davey2010Talk 23:21, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Upsetting to hear. Sorry to lose you, Bbb23, you always did great work from my perspective. Editors are valued assets. They devote shitloads of time for free. They rarely even require expressions of appreciation. Vandals, sock operators, undisclosed paid editing rings, shady marketing and PR firms, etc., all needlessly suck hours and hours out of the lives of these valuable assets with their vampiric trespassing. Wikipedia needs to either come up with automated ways to identify potential disruptive users to justify CU checks so that regular editors don't, or give CUs some extra leeway. The vampires are thieves. That's my emotional complaint having not read the ArbCom stuff. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:46, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sigh. Good job ArbCom.</sarcasm> You'll be missed. I hope to see you back. --Dirk Beetstra T C 13:33, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I always knew that Wikipedia was messed up right at the top, but this just confirms it when a skilled admin like Bbb23 is forced out. Wikipedia is going to be so much more messed up now and worse off. This feels like someone is leaving the gates open for all the trolls to invade. Govvy (talk) 06:56, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for all of your contributions to the project Bbb23. I hope to see you around in the future. -- LuK3 (Talk) 16:59, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your CU work was indispensable and will be sorely missed. Better to retire before the Committee summarily takes any tools away from you - which is their new approach. Do whatever you think is right to demonstrate your dissatisfaction with the way this Committee is now policing the project, I won't beg you to come back but I thank you heartily for all the time and experience you have thanklessly devoted to tracking trolls and banishing other miscreants. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Terribly unfortunate. I hope one day you may choose to come back, but regardless if you do or do not, all the work you've done so far is much appreciated indeed. Seraphimblade Talk to me 05:01, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for all you did for the project. I personally quite liked you, and I hope you do come back. I hope ArbCom re-thinks their position. TelosCricket (talk) 18:53, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ridiculous. Many thanks for all the work you've done for Wikipedia. The manual checkuser process is already suboptimal and your work was of incredible value. At current time it's difficult for me to judge on if the complaint had any legitimacy. The result is, nevertheless, technical disruption, unless you keep on. While we allow arbcom a lot of trust in general, as a computer-science person I don't think their role assumes any technical competency in the field (it is dubious that they could micromanage you or even properly analyse the relevant history themselves internally). Wikipedia:CheckUser#Grounds for checking does allow legitimate use of fair judgement, and I'm sure that most of your actions protected the project. —PaleoNeonate – 19:44, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I have striked some of my comment that I considered out of touch after reading this. There does not seem to be a reason for a case about CU or admin status at current time (and CUs appear divided on a few points themselves). I still hope you consider donating your precious time, that as you know from the above, is highly appreciated. Thanks again, —PaleoNeonate – 23:36, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • My god!! You are by far one of the very best CheckUsers we have, and I want to know what idiot on ArbCom is responsible for this outrage. Of course, I respect whatever choice you make regarding your CU status, but I do want you to know that at least some of us find the warning by ArbCom to be asinine in the extreme -- and I'm not a perennial ArbCom-basher. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:47, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I hope this limit fades away at some point. You are a very productive member of this encyclopedia. I'm not sure what caused this ruling, but just from my past interactions and observations, this will probably do more harm to Wikipedia than good. It would be a shame to lose you forever. DarkKnight2149 06:21, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm very sorry to hear about the situation. Thanks for everything you've done for the project as a valuable contributor and administrator. The door is always open for you to return, so you can always come back if you feel like it. I would like to wish you the best of luck. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 05:45, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm afraid I only just picked-up on this news. I want to sincerely thank you for all your help over the years. I do hope that this silly situation is stopped and resolved. We want you back and will miss your advice. Best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 10:37, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Damn. Here I am coming to you because I have CU question and your gone. Perhaps forever. This is most unfortunate news, and it couldn't have come at a worse time. Also, what the hell was arbcom thinking? TomStar81 (Talk) 13:51, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is a loss to the English Wikipedia no doubt. Just know that many appreciate all the tireless, thankless work you've done to improve this place over the years. Please reconsider and come back when you can Bbb23. --Kzl55 (talk) 19:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have no idea how I missed this until now. It is a huge, huge loss to Wikipedia. Thank you for all your invaluable help over the years. I hope you will reconsider, but your personal well-being is obviously a lot more important than any website. --bonadea contributions talk 12:04, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not happy about this at all. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 23:37, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • You have solved problems with CU so many times. A gigantic net positive.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for all the work you've done for Wikipedia. —PaleoNeonate – 02:06, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Brace your self for the barrage of socks and paid editors waiting to flood WP and good luck trying to replace a diligent worrier like Bbb23. As Yunshui said there goes the neighborhood . Thank you Bbb23 for all the work put in. - FitIndia Talk Admin on Commons 12:53, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wiki community eats another of its young. Why does this help?Eschoryii (talk) 22:25, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I completely disagree with ArbCom. If i had abilities to change your CheckUser rights, i definitely will re enable this right because it makes no sense that you have abused CheckUser. You are the best CheckUser ever on wikipedia. User3749 (talk) 16:05, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Revocation of CheckUser access for Bbb23

The Arbitration Committee has resolved by motion that:

In April, the Arbitration Committee privately warned Bbb23 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) that his use of the CheckUser tool had been contrary to local and global policies prohibiting checking accounts where there is insufficient evidence to suspect abusive sockpuppetry ("fishing"). The committee additionally imposed specific restrictions on Bbb23's use of the CheckUser tool in ambiguous cases otherwise considered to be within the discretion of individual CheckUsers. Bbb23 has subsequently communicated to the committee that he is unwilling to comply with these restrictions, continued to run similar questionable checks, and refused to explain these checks on request. Accordingly, Bbb23's CheckUser access is revoked.

Support: Joe Roe, Bradv, Beeblebrox, Maxim, David Fuchs, xeno, Worm That Turned, SoWhy, Casliber, Newyorkbrad, DGG
Oppose:
Recuse: KrakatoaKatie
Inactive: GorillaWarfare, Mkdw

For the Arbitration Committee, – Joe (talk) 06:23, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Revocation of CheckUser access for Bbb23
  • Bbb23: I hope that you will read this as some point in the future. On behalf of everyone in the Wikipedia community who feels as I do, that you were without a doubt the very best CU that we've ever had, I wish to apologize for ArbCom's decision, which I found to be unnecessarily authoritarian, almost inexplicable, and antithetical to the spirit of Wikipedia. Best of luck to you, and I hope we'll see you back in action whenever you're ready to return. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:03, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • seriously! the fuck! Whats wrong with wikipedia?! I just found out about this. I dont know anything about the Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Revocation of CheckUser access for Bbb23; but I read the thread at the top of your page. I can understand what it is about. Simply put: I dont believe you you overused the tools in bad way. You have tons of experience, and a good judgement rearding socking. I can never imagine you fishing randomly. But please dont leave the project bbb. I hope you stay around. —usernamekiran (talk) 22:52, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I hate ArbCom if they disabled your right. If i had permission to re enable your CheckUser rights, i definitely will since that"s nonsense because you DID NOT EVEN VIOLATE A SINGLE rule. User3749 (talk) 16:12, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your long, tireless service as CheckUser and for your work in protecting the English Wikipedia from sockpuppetry. A barnstar is not enough to appreciate your long and hard work. Thank you! JavaHurricane 09:58, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
👍 Like +∞ though I don't know the full history. {{reply to|Can I Log In}}'s talk page! 05:19, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Bbb23, please don't go. You're one of the most active checkusers on WP, and without you, there'd probably be a tsunami of sock puppets. In my opinion, you do the opposite of violating the CU policy. You vigorously block socks and say {{Checkuser-block-account}}. I cannot imagine what WP would do if you went. 🐔 Chicdat ChickenDatabase 12:24, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Gee, that's very clever, "a tsumani of sock puppets", fits right in with your focus on storms and, uh, chickens. Now, if ArbCom hadn't revoked my privileges, I'd probably have run one of those nasty checks as the mere fact of your leaving me a barnstar screams sock. A little birdie, not a chicken, told me that you were granted some special permissions but then lost them after you rather quickly abused them. Apparently, that gave you special knowledge about the permissions noticeboard so that you now provide helpful little tips to users who request permissions. Kind of you, I'm sure. Of course, there's always the possibility I'm wrong and that you're just a troll rather than a sock. Thanks for the compliments! It's good to be appreciated...by someone.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:08, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On beverages

If I recall your prefer things such as iced tea and lemonade, but should you want recommendations for stronger options, DoRD would be the one to go to for whiskey, and Ponyo for wine. Ignore the stewards. Other than RadiX none of them have good taste. Anyway, you certainly deserve the beverage of your choice. Ignore the barn star socks. Or just block them. I’m sure Zawl will be by soon enough letting you know how much better you are than me :) TonyBallioni (talk) 06:26, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, Tony, DoRD also knows wine. —DoRD (talk)​ 15:31, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
DoRD knows many things :) TonyBallioni (talk) 15:36, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well, one thing I know is that a lot of sockmasters are celebrating the Committee's action. I may be tired of the scenery here, but Bbb, I'm really saddened by this whole mess. —DoRD (talk)​ 15:55, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
DoRD, thanks for your kind words. Now let's turn to Tony's comments about what beverages I like, which is clearly more important than the revocation of my CU privileges. I do not drink anything alcoholic. I do not drink anything with caffeine in it (the reasons for both have nothing to do with religion). Going further, I am, as in most things, a fussy drinker. I drink water, milk, real juice (not from concentrate), and herbal tea. I do not drink soda, punch-type drinks, or decaffeinated coffee. Thank you for your attention to these very important statements.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:29, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I remember the caffeine now. Don’t know why I forgot in suggesting you like tea. Does lemonade count as a punch? Anyway, I hope you can take some time to de-stress from all this. The work on the CU team can be stressful enough without the added complications of the last few months. Stay well, friend. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:43, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As long as I'm being chatty this morning, I don't really expect you or anyone else to remember my personal likes and dislikes. If lemonade is made from real lemons, it's not punch, but it's not one of my favorite drinks, mainly because it's very hard to make well. Either it has too much sugar and is therefore too sweet, or it doesn't have enough sugar and is therefore too tart. The trick is using very fresh lemons (like straight from a tree), and unless you're fortunate enough to have access to those, it doesn't work. For a while I was on an extended visit with some friends in southern California, and they had orange trees in their backyard. Every morning, I'd walk out, take some oranges off the trees, return to the kitchen, squeeze the oranges, and drink the juice. Ambrosia.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:58, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ambrosia sounds heavenly compared to the poisonous mix forced upon you by ArbCom. I'd swear more, but it's not Sunday.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 18:23, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thanks for reminding me, Ponyo, I also don't± drink, at least not voluntarily, hemlock. Please add that to your list, Tony.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:49, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion made me Google hemlock (as one does.) Apparently despite being the most poisonous plant in North America, the root of the spotted water hemlock tastes quite pleasant before it kills you. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:33, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sa-LUTE! (Hee Haw) from a 45K-edit outsider

I just wanted to tell you that I appreciate all the help you've given me all this time I've been flailing along here, needing SPIs and revdels and such while I've been trapped on interminable unnecessary conference calls. I have no clue whatsoever what your IRL name is, but I made up "Bryan Benjamin Barnes" as your putative name for some reason, and have occasionally addressed you that way out loud to my cats when I'm hyphenating compound modifiers in bed at home to make productive use of insomnia.

I don't know where you live or what you do, but if you find yourself in the U.S. 702 area code coverage area, track me down and I'll buy you a drink, or a plate of nachos, or any other refreshment of your choice. You're a person I like having been able to "know" here and you've got a friend in JDL-land, B3. Thanks. - Julietdeltalima (talk) 00:30, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't been responding much to posts to my Talk page, but yours is one of the most original, sweetest, funniest I've seen, even from before my disgrace. Bryan Benjamin Barnes? How ever did you guess? --Bbb23 (talk) 02:22, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
hahaha! At work at midnight to rectify a crisis and discovering your comment makes me so sadhappy. Augh, I wish I could {hug} you (by which I mean "a literal hug if that would be a comforting thing, but if not, a proffer of an Oreo milkshake from Denny's? or some reasonable facsimile thereof?").
I actually go IRL by a nickname comprising my first two initials because my birth-certificate name is so infantile and difficult to spell that it's the bane of my existence (and yet, to those who ask, "Why don't you just legally change it?", my response is that why buy trouble?!) I don't remember what prompted, circa 1990, an undergrad classmate's blurt-out of her vague recollection of my real, true-to-life name, but she blithered "Jodessa Dalmatia" on the fly, and it's only maybe 10 percent sillier than the actual truth.
Augh, B^3-23, please stay, and/or come back someday. You are, in this weird bureaucratic nameless universe, truly cherished (even non-Wikipedians Alphadeltafoxtrot and feline Mischa Barton know that!). Hang in there, pal. You have a friend in a pointy Western state. - Julietdeltalima (talk) 07:29, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What lovely comments! I certainly agree with the one above. Please keep editing, we need you. Doug Weller talk 09:03, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Me too. I don't know Bbb all that well, but for what I do know, he's an awesome checkuser and admin. Also, 1060 watchers is a huge deal. We will miss you, Bbb23 :( ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:44, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A salute for you!

WikiSalute
ArbCom has made a major mistake, and Wikipedia will never be the same without you. I salute you, Bryan Benjamin Barnes the 23rd, for all you've done to protect Wikipedia from the many vandals, spammers, and the like that refused to go away. - ZLEA T\C 19:16, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

+1 more who misses your diligence. Atsme Talk 📧 21:30, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CU won't be the same without you. --Saqib (talk) 16:32, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
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  • Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an RfC regarding on-wiki harassment. The RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC and is open to comments from the community.
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Stay?

Why should you stay after such shabby treatment. A few people in a current position of power make people "retire" in the only way left for them to react. A history of contributions is ignored. My two cents. Eschoryii (talk) 21:42, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to see you go

Although I've never had this happen to me, I can say that I can only imagine how hurtful, angering, embarrassing, and devastating losing an advanced user right would feel. I'm sorry that it happened. I know that you're retired, but I hope that it's only temporary and that when things calm down, you find yourself back along side us. I will miss you. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:53, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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