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Category:Twin-engined tractor aircraft with unicorn sprinkles ?
Moved to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aircraft#Category:Twin-engined_tractor_aircraft_with_unicorn_sprinkles_? as continuation of existing discussion.
Notification of nomination for deletion of IML Addax
This is to inform the members of this Wikiproject, within the scope of which this article falls, that this article has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IML Addax. - Ahunt (talk)
Around and around we go
There is a discussion here[1] about whether a crash survivor who doesn't have an article should be named in the article. Please come on over and join in the conversation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamJE (talk • contribs)
CCI update
Hello! A case was recently closed at contributor copyright investigations which resulted in the content of multiple articles under this WikiProject being removed or modified. Most of the articles involved were related to Airlines. Members of this project may want to assess how much was changed and if any articles were of high importance. Here are some additional notes about these changes:
- Many airline stubs had the history presumptively deleted. Please do not restore such content unless you are rewriting it, as this is almost certainly copied from old issues of Flight International.
Thanks! Sennecaster (Chat) 12:32, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
New Airport in Ndola
Since there has been a clear change of Airport administration in the city of Ndola as of August 2021, I need to know if my page, Copperbelt International Airport, should remain as it is or if it should be merged with the Simon Mwansa Kapwepwe International Airport page. Sources indicate that the name ""Copperbelt International Airport"" is no-longer in use and this new airport has been renamed to ""Simon Mwansa Kapwepwe International Airport"". Sources also say that the Old Location of the Simon Mwansa Kapwepwe International Airport has been renamed "Peter Zuze Airforce Base".
So, what should happen with these 2 pages? How should we edit them? Quick responses will be appreciated. Chils Kemptonian (talk) 11:19, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- This was already brought up a little earlier; see above Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation#Ndola, we have a problem. --Colin Douglas Howell (talk) 17:33, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Notification of nomination for deletion of KaiserAir
This is to inform the members of this Wikiproject, within the scope of which this article falls, that this article has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KaiserAir. - Ahunt (talk) 17:59, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Proposal to rename the article "Vertical_stabilizer" to "Vertical_tail"
A discussion has been started here to rename the article "Vertical_stabilizer" to "Vertical_tail". (Hohum @) 18:22, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Request for Move
Following the chaotic straw poll, a proper WP:RFM has been opened at Talk:Vertical_stabilizer#Requested move 28 September 2021, to which you are invited to contribute. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 19:18, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Belagaavi Airport#Requested move 25 September 2021
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Belagaavi Airport#Requested move 25 September 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 12:42, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Saudi RE-3A electronic intelligence gathering aircraft
Dear all, yesterday I discovered a variant of the Boeing E-3A Sentry that I'd never heard of; an electronic intelligence gathering version flown by the Saudis. I went to WP eager to learn about this unusual aircraft, but found no mention of it whatsoever. I was frankly very surprised -- the aviation experts here are usually pretty good. So I clicked around, found https://theaviationist.com/2021/09/30/rsaf-re-3a-raf-waddington/ about a recent transfer across the Atlantic, corroborated by our Royal Saudi Air Force article which lists the RE-3A with 19 Squadron, and added a note to the variants section of the article.
I was surprised to be reverted by Mark83 with the edit summary "Undid revision 1047627725 by Buckshot06 (talk) Happy to discuss this further of course, but this doesn't feel right to me. This article is about AWACS. The RSAF R-E3A started life as tankers to support RSAF E-3s (KE-3As). These were modified into Rivet Joint-comparable aircraft. Therefore they are more relevant for discussion at this article. The E-3 part of the desingation is an historical quirk."
Now there is no technical entry for the RE-3A variant anywhere on Wikipedia. This constitutes a gap in our coverage of 21st-century Western military aircraft, which is generally among our most excellent subjects of coverage, given WP's systemic contributor bias. WP should have an entry on such aircraft, and the Boeing E-3 Sentry article is the logical place to look. To go looking at EC-135 or RC-135 when one knows nothing more than the 'RE-3A' designation seems illogical to me. I would strongly suggest that mention of the RE-3A variant be readded back into the Boeing E-3 Sentry article. What do others think? Will copy this to WT:MILHIST and WT:AVIATION (now here done).
Please make all comments at Talk:Boeing E-3 Sentry. Buckshot06 (talk) 09:33, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Passenger routes
Is it unreasonable to ask for independent sourcing for passenger routes? Most of the information about these is or completely unsourced or sourced by the airport from where it departs or by the operating airline.
People keep removing source request or request for better sources, claiming that is that what WP:RS demands. What sounds rather strange. For an example of what is happening: Dublin Airport.
I think it improves reliability and reduces advertising when independent sources are added.
I have asked this question on Wikiproject Airports before, but no answer was forthcoming. And with people actively engaging in edit warring over this, help and advice is needed. The Banner talk 08:24, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
- I think being factual information it would be okay to source it to WP:PRIMARY, but, of course, third party refs are better. - Ahunt (talk) 11:43, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
- But systematically removing maintenance tags? Like this one is not very helpful or even cordial. The Banner talk 12:29, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
- Nope, I agree, not helpful. - Ahunt (talk) 12:30, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
What has not been helpful is the edits inflicted by Andrewgprout and The Banner mainly, the two users operate tactically and to use their own interpretation of WP:RS and believe its third-party source or its out. Of course, third party reference is preferred but when not available, primary is the only option as otherwise the material must be deleted. The two users need to get a better understanding of this, ironically should learn their behaviour has been far from cordial either. The user omits their edits of what can only be described as vandalism, in bulk removal of information when their own narrative can't be suited. It is not helpful. There are many examples of this on the Dublin Airport, Cork Airport pages. EireAviation (talk) 00:56, 19 October 2021 (UTC)