The more I get involved in Wiki editing and read Teahouse and Help Desk replies from senior editors, the more I’m curious if somewhere there’s a collection of stories about intriguing editing situations they’ve been been involved in over the years. I can just picture the old-timers sitting around a campfire under the stars sharing memorable tales.
Thank you, @Gråbergs Gråa Sång … you’ve certainly expanded my to-do list exponentially! I delved into your first suggestion, WP:HOAXLIST, and found myself alternately in laughter and horror that so many hoaxes had actually gotten through Wikipedia’s security posts — even if they amount to only something like 1% of all posts. That’s 1% too many.
@Augnablik You might find some of the 'hairiest tales' being dewscribed during the week-long discussion process when an editor applies to become an administrator. Quite ofte,n the applicants are asked to describe difficult or challenging editing situations they have found themselves having to deal with. You can read mine here, and you simply have to change the url by replacing the username of the editor you're interested in hearing more from.
Sometimes the questioners tease out fascinating issues the applicant has encountered - sometimes dealing with them well; other times not. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 09:59, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My already long reading list provided by @Gråbergs Gråa Sång has expanded hugely with your suggestion to read “some of the ‘hairiest tales’ … during the week-long discussion process when an editor applies to become an administrator."
Actually, Nick, this will probably surprise you but it's the second time that I’ve read your write-up for your exam week. The first was a few months ago when, as has occurred with some frequency, you gave me a particularly helpful answer to one of my questions in the Teahouse. I don’t remember what that question was, but I do remember the deep resonance I felt. So I decided to find out more about you. When I went to your user page, I eventually found a link to your write-up.
Reading it made me feel an even closer bond with you and the other senior editors as well, even those I hadn’t yet connected with, as I became aware of some of the behind-the-scenes work you’ve all had to carry on. I think it must have been through reading your write-up that I felt an unusually strong sense of commitment to the Wikipedia mission and of belonging in its editor community that brought me to a much further point than no accumulation of editor points could have.
@Augnablik What a kind thing to say! Thank you. I'm glad my and others efforts here have inspired you. That's precisely what we need in order to ensure a good supply of younger enthusiastic and committed editors. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:09, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Younger" editors? If only you knew, Nick! 😂 Well, your other two adjectives fit me ("enthusiastic" and "committed").
Now, thanks to you and several others, I have my own private collection of memorable editing tales. Wish someone would do a great service and weave them together for the enjoyment of all involved in Wiki editing, from the badgeless to those with the largest badge collection. Augnablik (talk) 10:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gråbergs Gråa Sång, you’ve contributed to this thread several times now, and you seem to be an editor who might have quite a badge collection in addition to memorable editing tales … how about you taking this project ahead? Augnablik (talk) 10:56, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I edit pages like WP:PRESS 24 quite a bit, I also add items to "This article has been mentioned by multiple media organizations:" when I find them (see Talk:Recession for an example). With those and the other pages, I think the area is reasonably covered (with some bonus-content on my userpage). We also have a, thankfully small, number of WP-articles about WP-content, see Category:Wikipedia content. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:04, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I recently discovered my Father left me Money in 1955, as per his Probated Will. I never knew where my Father banked. Frustrated after writing to banks and Building Societies, I wrote to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, no real response from any of them. Registered with the Web Site 'My lost Account' for the second time, again nothing. as I understand Dormant Accounts after 15 years Banks forward the moneys to the Government for safe keeping. How and when do the Banks Transfer the Moneys, and which Department receives it. I am 89 so 69 years have passed since my Father died, there must be some Bank employees out there who can direct me, please do so. Jamiesonandy (talk) 04:11, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jamiesonandy: For the general question How and when do the Banks Transfer the Moneys, and which Department receives it, you may ask this at WP:RD/H. But note that reference desks are not a place of legal or personal advice, and the question could only be asked as a general curiosity question. Also Wikipedia is not a forum. Thanks, ExclusiveEditorNotify Me!14:05, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Deletion of an Article
Hi team,
I've added an article with title Bridge India, but it keeps getting removed. Can I get what exact thing I must do to keep it live and prevent it's removal? Prathmesh9309 (talk) 14:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Prathmesh9309 Welcome to the Teahouse. There are several messages about this on your Talk Page and the links to the deletion discussions give information suggesting that experienced editors thought the content was promotional, not encyclopaedic. Please read carefully the links at the top of your Talk Page about what is expected in articles (summarised at WP:YFA). Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi
I upload a picture I made on Wikimedia Commons on my personal page. I tried to link it to an article in Wikipedia as I already did many times, but it shows only as a downloadable/clicable line of text instead of a thumbnail... On Wikimedia Commons, my picture shows properly, but for an unknown reason I can't seems to be able to use it on Wikipedia... Can someone help me by explaining me what I do wrong?
Thanks
F. M F Gervais (talk) 16:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For me, it does not show properly, or indeed at all, on Commons. As its size is reported as 0x0 pixels, I'm not surprised. Maproom (talk) 19:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've just found that I can download it from Commons, and then view it in Chrome. Something is wrong somewhere (but not at en:Wikipedia). I suggest you ask about it on the Help Desk at Commons. Maproom (talk) 20:00, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@M F Gervais: MediaWiki tries to display PDF files as a PNG image of one of the pages. Something in the file appears to be incompatible with MediaWiki so this conversion doesn't work. I don't know whether the problem is in the file or MediaWiki. Anyway, PDF is not an image format but a file format which can hold multi-page documents. It's better to upload an image file like PNG or JPG if a PDF file is only used for one image. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:26, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not done. Wikipedia is not here for you to push a POV, make WP:FORUM speeches or to berate other editors. Edit requests need to be simple and straightforward, require no argumentation and EC editors will decide whether to implement them.Babysharkboss2 was here!!I killed JFK13:02, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like it was on your user talk page. What they mean is that edit requests are for edits that are simple and uncontroversial- where the reason is obvious. If you have to give a lot of reasons, it's not simple and should be handled with a discussion to establish a consensus, not an edit request. 331dot (talk) 17:11, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Johnywhy, you are not an Extended confirmed editor, and therefore you are not permitted to engage in substantive discussions about articles in the Arab/Israeli conflict topic area until you reach that status. Only then can you begin such a discussion. Cullen328 (talk) 17:33, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Johnywhy: Editors that aren't extended confirmed are allowed to make edit requests in controversial areas, provided that the request is not controversial. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Finding a non-controversial edit related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will likely be difficult- that's why the topic area has such stringent restrictions. The community needs to see that you can edit dispassionately before permitting you to contribute in that area- that's the reason for the EC restrictons. If you think your proposed edit is at all controversial- meaning that its entirely possible someone could disagree with it- you shouldn't request it. As a practical matter that would be limited to things like spelling or grammar fixes, nothing substantive. 331dot (talk) 11:02, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looking for an editor to write an article (Short Bio and Work)
Hi there,
I'm looking for an editor to write an article (Short Bio and Work) on Wikipedia since we can do it ourselves. Ideally I want to pay adequatively a contribution that can help Wikipedia itself.
Can you help? Arnaud Ahmed Segla (talk) 19:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In general, we're not keen on paid editing (it's barely tolerated). In particular, if a subject isn't notable enough for a Wikipedia article, then paying someone isn't going to fix that. -- D'n'B-t -- 19:45, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You were not notable in Wikipedia terms back in 2019 when you first attempted an article, it is clear from a quick Google search that this is still the case, be VERY wary of paying someone to create this for you, you will be scammed and you will still not have an article about you. Theroadislong (talk) 19:58, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Theroadislong is right, and what he says is well-intentioned. Now that you've posted here, you may be contacted privately by scammers. (A well-intentioned person would respond here.) Maproom (talk) 20:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Contributions to Wikipedia and the encyclopedias (English and all others) are entirely separate entities. Contributing to the former has no impact on the latter. David notMD (talk) 01:15, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In this one case, you could likely cite the comic itself. The primary citation does not establish notability, however. You could also try looking around the internet for sources. Do not use Fandom as it is User Generated Content. ✶Quxyz✶20:26, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you are on the visual editor, if you click on the quote button and then click on website, you can just fill in all the information. Note that fanmade or pirated content would not be able to be cited; but if it is an online version of a text published by the original author it can be cited per WP:Primary on a limited number of basic things. To switch between visual and source editor, you can click a dropdown button near the top on the screen. ✶Quxyz✶21:11, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Nelisd8, welcome to the Teahouse. A local account is automatically created if you view any page while already logged in at a Wikimedia wiki. It's normal to have a lot of accounts created this way. They cannot be removed. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maxime12346, your question is somewhat confused, so let's take this stage by stage. In one "Cite web" template, you have website=https://www.jti.com/about-us. That produces a syntax error, because the value of the attribute "website" may not be a URL. Correct it to, for example, website=JTI. (I am assuming that you are editing the "source". I know nothing about the "visual editor".) -- Hoary (talk) 23:59, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Making one of those biography boxes on the left of almost every Wikipedia article.
I don't know what it's called but, in my work, creating an article of Ayten Gökçer I want to know how to make one of those boxes on the far left of almost ever Wikipedia article that contains a picture and info about that topic. Advice for creating one would help with some of my other work too but if you want to make on yourself with this article please tell me how to make one for future use. Thanks, Fewsnake. Fewsnake (talk) 22:59, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Fewsnake. Those are called infoboxes. There are a ton of them, each tuned to the types of information most appropriate for a certain type of article. One way to learn exactly how it's done (what information to put in each fied, etc.) is to look at a page of interest in the wiki editor. For an actor, that would be {{Infobox person}}. DMacks (talk) 23:25, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is it better to edit Wikipedia with a tablet or a laptop and what operating system is best?
I'm curious to hear from you whether it is better to edit with a tablet (maybe with a keyboard) or a laptop. I currently have a laptop running Windows and I know that editing Wikipedia on a smartphone isn't ideal since editing is designed for bigger screens. The boundary between a tablet and a laptop is blurring since you can do basic tasks easily with both devices. I'm curious to know if anyone has edited Wikipedia with an iPad or Android, a Mac, or a Chromebook and their opinions on editing. What are some things you can do easily with those platforms and what are some challenges related to editing that should be noted? Interstellarity (talk) 23:27, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I edit on a computer, and I think that it is superior. It has more data processing so it's less laggy. The keys are easy to edit quickly with and the screen is big enough for any article. The only downside is that it is not that portable. (Laptops are probably "technically portable" because of their small size.) Fewsnake (talk) 23:31, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Whether or not the device has a full-sized keyboard is the most important for me. By "full-sized" I don't mean whether or not it's as big as a (now antique) Northgate keyboard; I'm referring to the distance between the centre of the Q key and the centre of the P key (assuming that it's a Qwerty layout). I might prefer the combination of full-sized keyboard and the OS I loathe most to that of miniaturized input device and the OS I like most. (My laptop is "practicably portable" because of its small size and trivial weight; but I move it around very little as I don't want to risk having its SSD fall in the wrong hands.) If you're tired of Windows, note that you can install an alternative OS. Please don't attempt to start a discussion about which OS is best; you'll find discussions ad nauseam if you care to look for them. -- Hoary (talk) 23:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here is a different perspective: I have done the vast majority of my editing for many years on smartphones. I have written many articles including Good articles on smartphones. I became an active administrator six years ago on a smartphone. I have answered thousands of questions here at the Teahouse and also at the Help Desk on smartphones. A smartphone is a miniature computer. I wrote an essay called User:Cullen328/Smartphone editing. Cullen328 (talk) 23:56, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I always edit with a laptop. I start with off-line documents stored on my computer where I collect all my notes from various reliable references. If I have trouble finding needed data I may spend months working on a note file. If I’m going to rewrite a paragraph or two of an article I first work on it offline so that I don’t feel rushed to finish a project before I’ve put sufficient time into it. (I do search for online reliable sources to use in my offline projects, plus I have a collection of printed reference books on favorite subjects.)
I usually have multiple Wikipedia projects I’m working on offline, for sometimes I temporarily set aside some of them, if I become more motivated to work on a different subject. I am an older Baby Boomer female editor, and spent most of my writing life without Internet in my home, so I never got out of the habit of working offline before its time to publish my work. This is what works for me, but everyone needs to find the process that they are most comfortable with.
Hello! I hope your day is good. I am trying make a userbox, and I am learning template parameters. I have the userbox in my sandbox. I want there to be a parameter where the user can write it like {{[...]quadball|position}} and it will read as "This user plays quadball as a position" and they can fill in position with whatever they like. I've managed to get that after some learning, but I'd like the template to also be able to just say "This user plays quadball" if no parameter is filled in, but I've read through WP:PARAMETER and I'm still stuck. This is an exercise for me in learning templates, so please explain how it works even if it is not possible in userboxes. Thank you so much!! -- NotCharizard🗨04:24, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just to make sure I understand, you will have two parameters, identified by position (1 and 2) rather than name. You want to display some text that contains the first parameter. And you want to display some text that contains the second parameter but only display if there is a second parameter given. The positional parameters are identified as {{{1}}} and {{{2}}}. Each of those expands to whatever value is passed, so you can write "foo {{{1}}} bar" and the value of the first parameter will be filled in. If no value is passed, it expands to nothing. You can use conditional expressions to take different actions depending on various values. See Help:Conditional expressions#Using #if for an example of checking whether a parameter has a value. DMacks (talk) 04:46, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unless you can provide references to what people have written about him, there is no potential for your draft to be accepted. David notMD (talk) 10:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New rules to question reliable sources?
I am very confused. For a second time recently (two or three days) cited content is removed from Lillie Rosa Minoka Hill - or cited content is modified without a new source here and here - because the users are assuming that she is:
not Mohawk, although there are reliable sources, and it's said in everything I have read about her so far
Due to federal government Blood quantum laws and her mixed-race heritage - her father is Quaker - she is not a citizen of any Native American tribe. That is true and cited in the article. It was a means of limiting the number of people that could vote on issues relating to them. I think they are taking this to mean that she's not a Native American, but again, there are sources that she's a Native American, she worked for clinics and befriended many "other Native American" women
"Minoka was the second Native American woman in the United States to obtain a medical degree, after Susan La Flesche Picotte (Omaha)". - is cited in the body of the article but removed again from the intro and "known for". There is no other known person that I am aware of that has this distinction (i.e., there's not a group of Native American or other American people that wanted to ignore her)
Because of the assumptions, they have said that Minoka-Hill is a self-identified Mohawk, when it appears that is all she has ever been told about herself, from her mother's side of the family. This, I think, is the crux of the issue and relates to this essay. I don't see in this essay that cited content should be removed become of someone's thoughts.
Sorry this is long. Has something changed that I am unaware of? At first, I really thought it was possible I was being pranked. The first person (we had extended talk page conversation at Talk:Lillie Rosa Minoka Hill is not a new user who is unaware of Wikipedia guidelines.
Please help - I wasn't sure if this is a third-opinion, ANI, or some other issue. How should this be handled? I feel like I can make the corrections and the article will be modified again.–CaroleHenson (talk) 06:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I could post a don't remove cited content and sources needed for new content message, but I am just not wanting to take the wrong step here. Is that appropriate here - or is some kind of review needed first about why this is happening?–CaroleHenson (talk) 06:40, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, CaroleHenson. I am not sure why you think that the Teahouse is the place for a complex content assessment which belongs at Talk: Lillie Rosa Minoka Hill, not here. That being said, the article in its current form is shot through with subjective and non-neutral assertions. Somebody willing to dig into the reliable sources about this person needs to do a major cleanup to bring the article into compliance with the Neutral point of view which is a core content policy. Cullen328 (talk) 07:00, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cullen328, Thanks so much for responding. I didn't know where to go.
I just posted a message about returning "self-identifying Mohawk" uncited / within an existing source that doesn't cover that.
I was just about to work on "tone" - which sounds like where you are coming from. Is there a source or sources that you think should be removed from the article?
How can I do the work if the article continues to add uncited content?
CaroleHenson, Wikipedia articles do not add content themselves because they are not sentient entities. Human beings add content. Engage in discussion with those other human beings at Talk: Lillie Rosa Minoka Hill as I recommended earlier. Only if that is not effective should you then try the various forms of dispute resolution that are available to you. In other words, do your best to try to resolve the dispute with the other editor first. Cullen328 (talk) 07:32, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha about working through the issues, I took a stab at that here. I posted a message on one of the user's talk page. I will copy that to the article talk page.
He claimed to have learned Hamlet, in its entirety, by the age of ten.{{efn|name=precocity_debate|The claim has been questioned; see "[[#Doubts|Doubts]]".}} He also claimed to have piloted his mother's Cessna at twelve.{{efn|name=precocity_debate}}
I have made an edit request on the Ahir talk page but it got no reply nor did anyone add to it. Can anyone help me here? Can anyone add my edit request to the Ahir article? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4085:8d1d:4b36::8849:da09 (talk) 07:12, May 15, 2024
Hello. Your edit request was not properly formatted and is likely to be ignored. An edit request should say "Change specific language X to specific language Y, and reliable source Z verifies the change I want to make". So, make your edit request that way with a template, and maybe another editor will respond. Cullen328 (talk) 07:39, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Our Wikipage Rejecting issue how to solve
I am already many times try to create our organization Wikipedia new page, but not successful our page was rejected always. our Wikipedia page was "P. Naveenkumar. M.E (Atchayam Trust)". this name display in google . but our content not showing. how to rectify. please help to guide me. HomeforAtchayam2014 (talk) 08:33, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
By selecting the About Us hotlink within the Fox Corporation website, https://www.foxcorporation.com/about-us/, it takes you to a page that demonstrates the use of "FOX" when talking about its brands:
"Under the FOX banner, we produce and distribute content through some of the world’s leading and most valued brands, including: FOX News Media, FOX Sports, FOX Entertainment, FOX Television Stations and Tubi Media Group. We empower a diverse range of creators to imagine and develop culturally significant content, while building an organization that thrives on creative ideas, operational expertise and strategic thinking..."
To me this implies that "Fox" as used in Fox Corporation is the only iteration where this happens. All other Fox Corporation brands use "FOX". This would included FOX News Media, FOX Sports, FOX Entertainment, FOX Television Stations and even the FOX Broadcasting Company. It should also be noted that Fox Corporation refers to itself as "FOX" throughout its website. An example of this can also be found in second paragraph of the About Use page:
"...We have long been a leader in news, sports and entertainment programming, achieving strong revenue growth and profitability in a complex industry environment over the past several years. FOX will continue to invest across our businesses, allocate resources toward investments in higher growth initiatives and take advantage of strategic opportunities, including potential acquisitions across the range of the media categories in which we operate."
My question is whether or not the use of "Fox" should be changed to "FOX" in all instances where it is found site wide except for Fox Corporation? This would include but not limited to:
Saul Isaksson Hurst is an individual skills development coach and has coached in Premier League Academy Football clubs including Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur FC. He now works one-to-one and his clients include Premier League Serie A and Ligue 1 players including Samuel Iling Jnr (Juventus) Noni Madueke (Chelsea) Flo Balogun (Monaco), Reiss Nelson (Arsenal) Max Aarons (Bournemouth) Rico Henry (Brentford) Saul is regarded as one of the worlds leaders in individual development. Saul also works with Professional Football Clubs and Federations as a consultant supporting individual technical development. He founded the app Mypersonalfootballcoach in 2013. An app created to improve technical football skills which has been utilised by the Academies of clubs including Arsenal FC. Rosalinda19 90 (talk) 13:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm new to Wikipedia editing but have some time in web development etc. I've noticed an article that has external links diverting to different sites to what they are listed for.
This article has a link claiming to be to London Evening Standard and another to white collar boxing charity championship. Should I just delete these links?
Sorry if this is an obvious question i just wanted to check before I made the edit.
Thanks PrimeHunter,
I pointed that back at the original article and found something more relevant to point the other one at, I hope this is correct.
Many thanks
DAMOP1208:05, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MemeGod27: I don't know where that tool gets the assessment data from but there was a redirect version today [5] and the talk page apparently needed a null edit to update link tables so I have done that. The assesment has now changed in the tool. The talk page is in many categories like Category:Unassessed Texas articles where editors can find it but I don't know where interested editors are most likely to look. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:01, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How to cluster multiple citations and sources leading to different websites into one note? I have already seen many help pages but I think they are not of the 'normal webpage citation' format I want. Thanks, ExclusiveEditorNotify Me!15:56, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I want to upload this photo but dont want it to get deleted is there in an easy way to tell if its copyrighted? please help soon. Thank you!
Shane emihovich (talk) 18:10, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Shane emihovich. Yes, the photo is copyrighted because it is not in the public domain. The file page says that the photo is your own work and also says This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license. Did you take this photo yourself? If so, it is properly licensed. If not, the license is invalid and the photo must be deleted. Cullen328 (talk) 18:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Shane emihovich Well, in the strictest sense, it almost certainly is, since basically, anything with a modicum of creativity is under copyright the moment it's set down in some fixed form. Formally registering a work for copyright does provide benefits, but it doesn't MAKE copyright. This photograph does not look nearly old enough that copyright would have expired. Uporządnicki (talk) 18:24, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Inquery
Hello, I came on the Teahouse to question about links and how to mask the link. I want to be able to add a link into text so when you click on the text it brings you to the link. IS this possible? GoodHue291 (talk) 18:11, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to find a better leading image for the Luke Skywalker page. I would like to find a fair-use image of similar quality to the one used on the Princess Leia page. How would I go about doing that? I've checked Wikimedia Commons and there aren't any good images on there. Wafflewombat (talk) 03:01, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not surprised you could not find any fair-use images of that character on Commons. By site policy, non-free images are prohibited there altogether. Those sorts of files are allowed in limited circumstances locally here on enwiki, but only if they are actually in use in an article, so there would not be any unused alternatives lurking for you to find here. DMacks (talk) 03:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think it's appropriate to use a fair-use image for that page? In my humble opinion, the current image is pretty terrible. If it's okay to use a fair-use image, how would I go about finding one? Wafflewombat (talk) 03:44, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do think a fair-use image is appropriate there since I can't see how we could avoid that situation. The current ones (Luke and Leia) appear to be stills from the various movies (even though the files we have were taken from an intermediate website rather than directly from a known time-stamp in the film itself). That seems like a reasonable source, since the topic is these characters in those films. DMacks (talk) 04:20, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Wafflewombat: Given the popularity of Star Wars, I suggest you be WP:CAUTIOUS here and discuss the changes you think need to made at Talk:Luke Skywalker before uploading any new images or replacing/removing any existing images from the article. You can even seek feedback from WP:STARWARS. Although Wikipedia encourages us ot be WP:BOLD, I suspect that the image use in this particular article is probably something that has been discussed before and a consensus was likely established in favor of the images currently being used. Finally, one important thing to remember when it comes to image use is that fair use and non-free content use aren't exactly the same thing; Wikipedia's non-free content use policy was set up to be much more restrictive than fair use; so, it's probably best to avoid using the two terms interchangeably when it comes to Wikipedia since they're not exactly equivalent in meaning. That's another good reason for seeking input on the article's talk page or from WikiProject Star Wars. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Request to raise the protection policy level of Alice Guo's personal page in response to current developments.
Hi, I have never commented or edited anything on Wikipedia, and I don't even have an account. I look at articles fairly often and I was looking into Alice Guo (Philippine Mayor) in response to recent national developments in the Philippines regarding allegations to her place of birth, legitimacy of her citizenship, and her relationship to the Chinese mob. Since this topic has recently developed and seems like it will grow into a bigger issue, I was wondering if anyone who qualified was interested in raising the protection level the Wikipedia page for Alice Guo in order to protect it from vandalism, and spread of unconfirmed information. I think it qualifies as at least semi protected, at least until the topic is no longer covered by the media.
@Loversduet: You can make a request at WP:RFPP. Articles are only protected if there is ongoing vandalism or disruption, pages are not protected proactively. You can use the article's talk page to start a discussion to resolve any content disputes. RudolfRed (talk) 04:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Before requesting protection, please do look at the history in order to decide if you want to request semi-protection vs full-protection. Is it just IPs and new editors involved (with long-standing accounts making good-faith edits, even if the edits do not always survive)? Or are long-standing accounts making bad-faith or otherwise-disruptive edits also? DMacks (talk) 04:26, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have never wrote in this board, I hope someone can help me. I paid someone in March to create a wikipedia page that I needed and last week he wrote to me to tell me the page was put into drafts - I didn't know what that meant so I spent a few hours researching and then I told him, not only that he has told me that because I have tried to edit my own page I will never be able to create a page under my name. I am shocked this could happen. Any advice? I would appreciate it very much EUFilm (talk) 11:54, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I created that myself this morning, but I cant publish it, he said I will never be able to have an article about me. I am actually concerned cause I do not manage wikipedia well at all EUFilm (talk) 12:06, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you feel that you have edited the draft to the extent where you can prove how you meet our notability criteria for people, you can submit it for review. Just click the Submit the draft for review! button I have added to the draft.
@EUFilm Navigate to the draft (linked above) and you'll see a big blue button in the section at the top. Don't submit it yet: wait until a few more experienced editors have had a chance to tweak it towards acceptability. Meanwhile, you mentioned that he actually blocked my other account too. What account? Unless the scammer was an admin, which seems unlikely, he has no way to block accounts. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:16, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I did submit, I don't know how editors can add on to it, sorry about my complete lack of knowledge. My other account was called film ireland but gives me a message that it is blocked and I can only read but no edit EUFilm (talk) 12:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for letting me know, I thought it was very suspicious that everything happened at once, I had that account for a couple of years and I never had problems with it. I didnt use it much TBH EUFilm (talk) 12:29, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did! I needed to refresh the page, thanks so much for your help, I will follow your advice on writing autobiographies and make a conflict of interest disclosure. Thanks so much for the prompt help EUFilm (talk) 12:16, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@EUFilm The review process is iterative. Having a draft declined (pushed back for further work) is normal. This essay may be of use to you. It is one of many describing a process for creating drafts which are acceptable, assuming notability is proven. That last is fundamental to acceptance. So you have work to do, and it should be fun. Just take the advice of the reviewer(s).
However, there is an important and unanswered question. What is the purpose behind your desire for an article about you to be published? Thyere is only on good reason, which is verifiable notability. Set agains that there are many bad reasons, the most awkward is a desire for publicity. Remember, you will not own the article. Assuming you have done questionable (and verifiable) things then editors are free to add them. I am not accusing you of having dome any. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrentFaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:43, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ref. mentioned by others gets in reflist made by you
On talk pages, sometimes you use citations and sources, or that they get added when you mention some part from the article. After this you put {{reflist}}{{reftalk}} on bottom of your comment (if I am right). What this may do, is that citations mentioned by others who had not used {{reflist}}{{reftalk}} under their own comment, will get added in the {{reflist}}{{reftalk}} you added below your comment. What to do in such situations? Thanks, ExclusiveEditorNotify Me!13:39, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tenryuu: Yes, a part of my doubt was if you could add the template below other's comments. If we could, this would be tedious if the talk page is long with many users using citations without {{reftalk}}, although such situation is rare. ExclusiveEditorNotify Me!14:14, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My article was rejected due to not citing enough reliable sources. However, the page I am creating is about a local business. The sources I had used so far have been sources from the business website itself, but I have added some more from local newspapers talking about the business. Would these be classed as more reliable sources? I am struggling a bit. Smolenskycollection (talk) 14:15, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nedia020415: Welcome to the Teahouse. Some people that have been around long enough like to give themselves the moniker, but anyone's allowed to answer provided they know what they're talking about. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, NeD1a. While there is not a formal restriction on who may answer questions here, please see WP:Teahouse/Host start. From time to time we get enthusiastic newcomers here who are keen to help, but have not yet learnt enough about Wikipedia to give accurate and helpful answers. If you do start answering, please be certain you know what you are talking about when you try it, and accept any feedback with good grace. ColinFine (talk) 02:59, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My Reply to a Comment in a Talk Section Keeps Being Deleted
Then I replied to Levivich's reply to my own post and it is being deleted over and over again by [SelfStudier]. Given that this is the Talk section and I am citing my sources, I do not understand why I am getting deleted. Can someone pls help or explain? Lionbear10 (talk) 14:58, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:PIA, only editors with 500 edits and 30 days on their account are allowed to participate in discussions regarding topics relating to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. As a non-EC editor, you are allowed to make simple and uncontroversial edit requests (e.g. identifying grammatical errors), using the WP:Edit request template, and are not allowed to further argue the case for your edit if it is declined.
I/P topics, alongside the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and the Holocaust, represent the topics on Wikipedia that are the most stringently restricted, due to past, pervasive disruption related to these topics. For what it's worth, you were expressly notified about all of this on your talk page about an hour before you made this Teahouse post. signed, Rosguilltalk15:14, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi DanganMachin. The name= field in a reference isn't for what you were hoping there, it's for reusing references not labeling them. {{notetag}} does what you wanted, I've added it to the article so it should be rendering as you wanted now. -- D'n'B-t -- 16:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, could someone explain templete categories to me? I noticed that the majority of uncategorized pages are templates but don’t really know how to categorize them. Fernmyne (talk) 19:10, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Templates would go in either categories of templates on a certain topic, templates for a certain type of use, or templates associated with a certain context. So for example, is templates used to format cited sources and Category:Chembox templates is templates used internally by the {{Chembox}} infobox. There are currently 25,564 categories with the string "templates" in their name. If you have a few example templates in mind, someone can probably suggest a few cats. With practice in general, or in collaboration with a wikiproject, you'll start to recognize certain sets of category-names. DMacks (talk) 04:28, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Fernmyne: Template categories should be inside <noinclude>...</noinclude>. Otherwise the category will also be added to pages using the template. On a documentation subpage categories are placed inside <includeonly>...</includeonly> and the parent template transcludes the documentation inside <noinclude>...</noinclude>. Many template subpages don't require a category. To find suitable categories, you can look at similar templates, search the category namespace (e.g. with category:) with templates or intitle:templates included in the search, or navigate template categories like Category:Wikipedia templates. Don't create new template categories unless you are familiar with the area. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:05, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wiki source codes to format quotations
Where's the help to lookup the source codes that are available to format quotations? I believe that Visual Editor makes formatting visually easier, but it's not available everywhere on Wikipedia.
I know the source codes are different when composing in an article versus in a Talk page's topic. For example, a block quotation's source code in a Talk page should be: {{Talk quote block|text=block}}. rootsmusic (talk) 19:50, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rootsmusic When I started editing here, I encountered the same problem. I first bookmarked really interesting pages in a dedicated section of my main userpage see here. But I subsequently created a separate subpages for the myriad of lesser, but nevertheless quite valuable pages I encountered that I wanted to refer back to. See User:Nick Moyes/infopages. Sadly both pages are a bit of a mess, but that's just me. Maybe you'll be better organised! Hope this helps. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:43, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome to the Teahouse, IP editor. Gosh, it is really very poor, isn't it? I would suggest that your approach should be roughly in this order.
Read the article
Read each reference thoroughly
Re-read the article and ask yourself if there were any key facts in those references that were missing from the article.
Critique the current article and think what anyone wanting to know about the topic might expect to find within it.
Consider all the sections of the article, both present and missing. The lead is very weak and doesn't even wikilink to Special education (make sure you read through that first, too) Think whether the article needs a section on laws, international children's charters, support groups, prosecutions of extreme cases, etc.
Make a list of key things missing from the article and go look for sources that would help you fill those gaps.
So, how prevalent is abuse in special education? (I found one sources in a few seconds suggesting it's 4 times as likely to happen than in normal schooling, but maybe there are national or cultural variations?) Is it more likely in certain settings or with certain groups of special education needs, or certain ages?
Try to find academic studies on the subject, not salatious news stories that talk about one particular incident at one school somewhere. UNICEF type-reports, not tabloid media tales.
Try using Google Books to find best academic or scholarly sources. Read and reread the sources, maybe working in your sandbox to collate additional text and citations ( or in a wordprocessor if you prefer)
Think globally - most editors seem to take an Americo-centic perspective, but this is surely a worldwide issue? If so, demonstrate it with sources. How have different countries addressed the issue?
Whatever you do, write new content in your own words and enjoy the challenge of being able to turn a poor article into something quite, erm, encyclopaedic! Good luck. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can't believe such a weak article was published in Wikipedia! It looks like what you'd expect only at a draft stage. I'm really surprised the article has been up for a few months (I checked its History page) without receiving at least one tag pointing out the need for specific further work to be done on it.
Nick has laid out a good comprehensive set of steps for you, but I'd like to add to the discussion by saying how I'd start out if I were taking on that article — assuming I didn't have a strong background of knowledge about abuse in special education beyond what I've read in the news. I'd do a quick Net search on ABUSE SPECIAL EDUCATION ... then skim through the Results list for sources with titles that seem to be about the topic at a general level ... then I'd go to those sources to get an overall idea of the situation.
— For instance, I'd want to know the different areas within special education where abuse has occurred most.
— And depending on how broad I wanted to make the article, I'd also try to get an idea of where the abuse has particularly been found to occur (like, just in the US? or worldwide?).
Once I felt a bit familiar with the situation — but not until! — I'd start moving ahead on the job.
This is a more "top-down" approach than others might find works best. For them, a more "bottom-up" approach might work better. The world, after all, can be divided into those who are more deductive and those who are more inductive when approaching new tasks and learning new material. Of course, there are also many folks in between; even so, most of us lean somewhat more in one direction than the other.
I mention all this because you have a pretty big job ahead of you with that article, and knowing yourself in this way can help get things off to a productive start. Good luck. You're brave to take this article on! Augnablik (talk) 21:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can I use a picture I found that while I can't find the copyright is more likely than not in the public domain ? As it is a picture of someone who died in 1929, meaning it is at least 95 years old and more likely even older than that ? DanganMachin (talk) 20:43, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Thanks @Nick Moyes for the examples from your User page.) In a Talk page, I've striked-out my own paragraphs because they were wrong. How can I also collapse the striked-out paragraphs to not clutter the topic? rootsmusic (talk) 21:51, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You can use the template {{collapse}}. For example:
I mean, it depends on the length. If it's a long section, absolutely use the template 2NumForIce described, but if it's just a small part of one of your own comments, {{collapse}} is easier. Cremastra (talk) 22:47, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm having trouble with an infobox on this page. I would like the item "Leia Organa Solo (daughter)" to stay on one line, like it does on this page. I can't figure out how to do it. I even tried putting it under the "family" heading like it is on Vader page, but that didn't do the trick. Wafflewombat (talk) 22:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only difference I can see between those two pages is that the padding in the middle of the infobox for Darth Vader skews a little more to the left than Padmé Amidala. I'm not sure if the {{show}} templates are affecting the spacing in the former. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:02, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Wafflewombat. I don't know why but the line wrapping in the long image caption in Padmé Amidala causes the first data column to be a little wider than necessary to hold the longest text "First appearance", and then the second column doesn't have room for "Leia Organa Solo (daughter)". If the caption instead forces a newline with <br /> before or after "in" [6] then the issue goes away for me. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Simoncreates. Without knowing more specifics, it's hard to give you anything but a general answer. If the typo is in content about a source that was added to a Wikipedia page (e.g a citation template), then it possibly can be edited. On the other land, if the typo is in something find on an external website that is being cited as a source on a Wikipedia page, then there's no way to edit that via Wikipedia. If you can provide some more details about this typo, then it would be easier for someone to give you a better answer. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply. The Wikipedia article in question is about an individual. I wrote a piece about this individual for a local alt weekly, which is listed as a source. My name is misspelled as the author. I would like to correct the misspelling. 2600:1700:77C0:3BE0:45E5:D8D0:9010:67F4 (talk) 11:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Page numbers in citation of ebooks
I wanted to use an ebook as a citation in an article, but since ebooks don't have page numbers, how can I use that ebook as a citation? VKwiki10003:01, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Vkwiki100, we still need you to do the best you can with location in a lengthy source. Wikipedia:Citing sources says If there are no page numbers, whether in ebooks or print materials, then you can use other means of identifying the relevant section of a lengthy work, such as the chapter number or the section title. Use the "at" field as n "|at=Chapter 2" in "cite book". StarryGrandma (talk) 03:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
CanonNi, what I'd do is reply to the comment, suggesting to its author (whom you should ping) that they should post it in the AfD page itself. The author can then take this opportunity to revise the comment if they wish. -- Hoary (talk) 06:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi MaribelCasey178. Are you asking about a specific edit or just about editing in general? If you're asking about a specific edit then it would help to know the name of the Wikipedia article/page where the edit in question was made. If you're asking more of a general question, then,in principle, pretty much every edit made to a Wikipedia article/page can be undone and every edit that's undone can be subsequently restored by undoing the undone; in many cases, though, edits are undone for a good reason (i.e. some Wikipedia policy or guideline related reason), and they probably shouldn't just simply be restored just for the sake of things but only when underlying reason has been satisfactorily addressed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:14, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are there short cuts available to use when doing Wiki editing on a mobile phone? If so, where can I find a list of them?
This question came up after often wishing I could quickly go from places like the Teahouse to my user page. My workaround to do that is unbelievably cumbersome. Augnablik (talk) 05:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you are using the mobile website (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/), you can go into "Settings" on the left-side menu and turn on "Advanced mode", which will provide you with additional options for navigating to your watchlist, user page, contributions, etc. If you are using the app I have no idea unfortunately. Reconrabbit14:13, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Image use policy
Hi, I just had this conversation on my talk page about an image insertion I reverted. Essentially, the editor has uploaded an image of a minor onto Commons and then placed that image in an article on English Wikipedia. I reverted that insertion, partly because I thought it was vandalism (given the edit history of that page), and mostly because I was concerned about the image. I asked the editor if they had the consent to post such an image of a minor. They said they knew the minor depicted in the image, but did not gain consent from the minor's guardians yet. I advised them to delete the image until consent via a model release was obtained.
I was surprised WP:IUP (and WP:CHILDPROTECT) was not clear about consent and images that deal with minors in this type of scenario. I did try to quickly look through those policies' talk pages and the talk pages of WP:Teahouse and WP:VP to find other similar cases. I was going to post this on WP:VPP requesting an update to the policy language, but before I do, I want to make ensure I am not overlooking some other Wikipedia/Commons policy or past discussion where this is addressed?
Do you think my actions were logical in this scenario? Did it follow policy? If so, which policies? What would you have done here? Thank you in advance, --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me.05:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So I was recently watching a Youtube video by Dime Stone Adventures, where he goes over this old dance prompter/fiddler/farmer from Eastern Connecticut named Gurdon Cady. I noticed there wasn't an article for him on here, and I thought it would be a good idea to add one. However, I'm new to making and editing, and I know how strict stuff can be. So I would like be some senior/experienced article editors to help me create the article and to also seek approval of them to do so. Another problem I have is that there is not many sources of this man's existence outside of local newspapers, articles about his unique headstone, and that youtube video by Dime Stone Adventures that I mentioned earlier. Because of that, I feel like it would be to find accurate sources that we could easily link. If we are to go through with this, I should probably email (if I can) Dime Stone Adventures if we can link his video as a source or if he could help us create the article.
Hello, Creamymemes5. The New York Times published an article about Gurdon Cady in 1897, and a Google Books search shows that he is discussed in several books. So, I think that trying to write an article about him is worth the effort. Your first article has good advice. As for the Dime Stone Adventures YouTube channel, that appears to be a one person operation and is unlikely to be considered a reliable source. Cullen328 (talk) 07:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Creamymemes5, and welcome to the Teahouse. It's great that you want to contribute to Wikipedia, and that you have seen a possible subject for an article - and from what Cullen says, you may have hit on a subject who actually meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, so an article is possible. (This is already doing better than hundreds of new editors who plunge into creating articles where that is not the case).
Having said that, my advice to new editors is always to not even think about creating a new article until you have spent a few months learning how Wikipedia works by making edits to existing articles. Once you have grasped principles such as verifiability, reliable sources, neutral point of view. and notability, then you can read your first article, and give it a go.
It is not impossible that somebody will come forward to help you on it, but in all honesty, it is not likely. You are the person who wants this article: unless you happen to fire somebody else's imagination, they're not going to put effort into the ground-work of researching and writing this article, though people will be happy to answer specific questions, and if you submit a draft for review, reviewers will give you feedback. ColinFine (talk) 14:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ColinFine, I started editing roughly 15 years ago and made 15 edits in my first four weeks. During those weeks, I spent a lot of time studying Wikipedia's policies, guidelines and ways of doing things. 29 days after I started, I wrote my first article, Dirk van Erp, and have written over 100 new articles since, not one of which has been deleted. So, I do not believe that several months of experience is required if an editor is willing to learn. Cullen328 (talk) 18:19, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Computer Engineering Future
For many years, computer engineering—a profession that combines computer science with electrical engineering—has been at the forefront of technological progress. Future developments and technologies have the potential to significantly alter the field of computer engineering.
The Quantum World
Computer engineering is about to undergo a revolution thanks to quantum computing, which makes use of the ideas of quantum physics. Quantum computers, as opposed to classical computers, employ quantum bits, or "qubits," which are multistate entities that may exist simultaneously. This enables quantum computers to carry out intricate computations at rates that are not possible for conventional computers. Although quantum computing is still in its infancy, there are a plethora of possible uses for it in drug discovery, cryptography, and optimization issues.
Both machine learning and artificial intelligence
Healthcare and finance are just two of the industries that artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) have already begun to revolutionize. Computer engineers will be essential in creating effective hardware and algorithms to enable AI and ML applications as these technologies grow. AI will probably be included into more commonplace gadgets in the future, which will contribute to the development of smart homes, driverless cars, and customized healthcare.
Internet of Things (IoT)
The network of physical objects, ranging from industrial machinery to household appliances, that are linked to the internet in order to gather and exchange data is known as the Internet of Things (IoT). Computer developers will face issues with data security, privacy, and the creation of high-performance, low-power technology as more gadgets become "smart."
Engineering with Neuromorphic Properties
A recent development in computer engineering is called "neuromorphic engineering," which entails creating systems, circuits, and algorithms that resemble the neural networks and processing power of the brain. This may result in the creation of extremely effective, intelligent computers with learning and adapting capabilities.
Online safety
The significance of cybersecurity is increasing along with our dependence on digital technologies. It will be necessary for future computer engineers to create systems with strong security features in order to defend against more complex cyberattacks.
Conclusion
In conclusion, computer engineering has a promising and bright future. Computer engineers will continue to lead innovation and shape the future of our digital world as technology advances at an unparalleled rate.
@SHRIDHAR ADHIKARI, Your draft is not supported by reliable sources which is needed to establish notability of the subject. Please cite reliable sources that will improve the article. GrabUp - Talk09:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
SHRIDHAR ADHIKARI, the subject of your User:SHRIDHAR ADHIKARI/sandbox is "Computer Engineering Future". As explained here (NB a policy page), this is not an encyclopedic subject. For this reason, if I had reviewed this draft, I would not have declined it. Instead, I'd have rejected it. Please stop working on it. -- Hoary (talk) 10:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ExclusiveEditor The guidance is at MOS:BOLDSYN, which says that bolding is reserved for significant alternative names (which should usually also redirect to the article). One example at least, namely Kaiwan redirects elsewhere, so breaks this guidance. Others may do so, too: I haven't checked them all. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article rejected
The page is that I have created is not unambiguously promotional, because I have deeply researched about the topic and after collecting the relevant references and then drafted the content for that. Previously I have written the article but same reason was given, that it's an advertisement. I'm well aware of all the rules, regulations and guidelines of wikipedia and before drafting the content I have first gone through other bunch of pages and there writing procedure. Inspite of writing clearly and concise on the subject it's rejected without any proper detailed explanation. I dont know whats wrong with the people and why they think that the people like us who are experience content writers and editors are only working and taking money for writing any content. Cant we just make it more easier to present you thoughts, but whatever I write everything is rejected. Now, I want the proper clarification because this is not the first time my article is being rejected. Provide me the solution for publishing the content on the subject, not just that its advertisement and we cannot publish it. Vivekupadhyay1 (talk) 11:28, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is "a reputable firm in the tech space, it provides innovative digital solutions" something that you would expect to be in a neutrally written encyclopedia article? What about "...brought a wealth of experience and a visionary approach to the company" in reference to that company's leadership? If you saw those phrases in an article you hadn't written, would you honestly think that it sounded less like an advertisement than an encyclopedia article? -- D'n'B-t -- 11:39, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thankyou for your feedback, But can you provide me the better way to use words. As if I'm writing about any organization, then It's wrong to use or mention the CEO or the leader? I will make changes accordingly but will you please help me to streamline that as it has only 4 lines. Vivekupadhyay1 (talk) 11:47, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
[Edit Conflict] The solution is for you to study and absorb the principles in Wikipedia's WP:Five pillars, and develop an understanding of what 'promotional' means in Wikipedia terms. Having done that, you need to rewrite the Draft in accordance with Wikipedia's requirements: Help:Your first article may be of assistance.
Something can read like an advertisement even if the writer is not being paid to write it. Your repeatedly Declined (not Rejected*) draft includes very few facts and a great deal of empty praise for the subject, and is very far from having a Neutral Point Of View. As for your four references, some if not all are clearly from associates of the subject, or reprints of PR releases from it, so are not independent and cannot demonstrate Notability, which is essential.
(* "Declined" means "not up to standard yet, please improve before resubmitting"; "Rejected" means "no hope of becoming an article, please stop trying".)
In future, please do not write in all-bold: it appears aggressive and will not encourage sympathy. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.2.67.173 (talk) 11:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thankyou so much for the proper explanation. Now, I know what kind of links are valid and can be used in the wikipedia article. If you dont mind can I share the links here only to get the validation on are the links valid and can be used in the wikipedia article for the particular subject? Vivekupadhyay1 (talk) 12:11, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So is what you are saying is that you coincidentally decided to edit about a company with an employee of the same name as you? I'm just wondering if that's what you are saying. 331dot (talk) 13:32, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure it's not- and that wasn't what I was getting at. But can you at least understand how this looks to everyone else? 331dot (talk) 13:47, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Vivekupadhyay1 You appear to be ignoring steadfastly the formal question on your user talk page regarding paid editing. You should note that the question may not be ignored, and your edits in this thread count as editing further. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrentFaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 13:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do not have an account and so cannot rollback obvious vandalism (3 edits) at Tartan. The "editor" User:Kilt Designer already has a spam warning from self-promoting elsewhere. Can someone here revert it and ask the admins to ban them for this? 212.79.110.147 (talk) 14:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello there! It's been some time since I've been here. I'm planning on being more active and I've decided to change my user name (if possible) and my signature. Can somebody provide me with the corresponding links? Also, I've been part of the Women in Red community for some time and I would like to join some more communities that have to do, for example, with music etc. Do you know where to find those as well? Thanks in advance and have a good day! fenia🖤tellmehi14:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Add a column to IML Contest Winner Table[edit]
Hey there can someone create another column on this page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mr._Leather IML Year - then add a column IML Class then add 1 to 46 - including the covid years as 43 & 42
Source: IML Executive Facebook page 25th May 2020 "To honor this year, with great respect for the world's situation, we choose to not ignore 2020 and will put International Mr. Leather 42 and International Mr. Bootblack 28 in the books as "the year without winners". Instead, we move forward to the future and International Mr.Leather 43 and International Mr. Bootblack 29 when we can be together in May 2021. In Leather, IML Executive Committee" 2A01:4B00:D214:8000:C570:9AD9:4AF2:9DC0 (talk) 15:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i noticed there were a lot of articles in chinese that were well written but stubs in the english version. i was wondering if i can just translate them into english and use the same references or would the references also have to be english sources?
--Eternal Wisteria (talk) 16:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The references don't have to be English, but they do have to be WP:Reliable sources. The reliability would depend on the article subject. Medical articles citing sources promoting TCM would likely not pass WP:MEDRS, and political articles citing Chinese news agencies would likely be deemed unreliable. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:18, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Excessive zeal about permissions or rights about images
A long time ago I gave up uploading images to Wikipedia. No other place in the Internet is so full of rules, more rules, a LOT OF RULES about permissions, rights, licenses, etc. of images freely available everywhere you look, and many times some idle & worthless "editor" has decided it should be removed. The result is an encyclopedia that seems proud of being poorly illustrated. Many WP Admins seem to share a common paranoid fear that Wikipedia could be sued for "copyright infringement", but stubbornly deny it, citing their rules instead. It's no use, and it's frustrating too. AVM (talk) 17:18, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The rules aren't complex. In fact, there is just one simple rule: The Wikimedia Foundation publishes images that have been released under an acceptable free license. That's it. If you take photographs yourself, you can upload them with such a license. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, AVM. I hear your frustration.
Unfortunately, copyright law hasn't quite caught up with new-fangled things like photocopiers. The fact that much of the internet ignores copyright is unfortunate, but the Mediawiki Foundation has chosen to do its best to comply with the law. ColinFine (talk) 17:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In fact, precisely because of the paucity of free images, the English Wikipedia has chosen to allow non-free content in certain circumstances; I believe that some Wikipedias do not allow that. ColinFine (talk) 17:39, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, did no one else hear this guy call editors who get rid of copyright violations worthless? Please be WP:CIVIL and understand people aren't worthless because they do something you don't like. Industrial Insect(talk)18:13, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Editors who improperly upload copyrighted images created by others to WP or to Wikimedia Commons usually claim in the form-filling process that the images are their "own" creation, which is false, and thus constitute outright theft of the actual creator's property. Carlstak (talk) 18:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
how to do two disambiguations in a hatnote
for the page for tire there is only one disambiguation link in a hatnote leading to Tire (disambiguation). I feel there should be two since the british spelling (tyre) has its own disambiguation page (see Tyre (disambiguation). im not sure how to make it dispaly two disambiguation links at once in the hatnotes, so if someone could help it would be greatly appreciated. Gaismagorm (talk) 18:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I've been wondering about this for some time now.
On some movie and film articles, especially where you get into the 'plot' section of it, does there need to be any sources of the plot? How do we know what is true and what isn't true about it, if there's no sources on it. GoodHue291 (talk) 19:15, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@GoodHue291: References aren't required for plot sections, because the work itself is the source; you can verify the accuracy of the plot summary by viewing the work. See MOS:PLOTSOURCE – while quotations from the original work or secondary sources are helpful in some circumstances they are not required. Tollens (talk) 19:20, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey thanks. I actually had another question for you. Is there a limit on how much questions you should ask on the Teahouse? GoodHue291 (talk) 19:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's an issue at the Yahaya Bello article. There's a user that is constantly adding information there that seems out of place, also not acknowledging our edit summaries too. I want to know if you could do something about it. I feel like it's biased text. GoodHue291 (talk) 19:38, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The best option would likely be to review the material given to you by whatever person or organization is administering the exam, or alternatively look for practice material online; we can't help you very well here. If you have a specific question about a particular topic you don't understand, you could ask at the reference desk. Tollens (talk) 19:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bertrand Meniel entry by Francy Pants
On March 6 the entry I created for the artist Bertrand Meniel was rejected because I didn't have the right references. I have since corrected all this following the suggestions of Utopia. I resubmitted the entry and it has now been more than 2 months. Anyone have any suggestions on what more I can do to enhance the entry for publication? I don't know how to indicate where you can find the entry now, as it is in limbo. Fracy Pants (talk) 20:25, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How do I remove a reference and mark it as [citation needed]
I updated an out of date level count number on the article for the game Baba is you but the old reference is still there, how do I remove it and replace it with either a newer reference or the citation needed thing? Personfromthegalille (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You probably shouldn't change it until you find a source with the updated number, as the new number would be unsourced, and could be reverted by someone else. I'd just leave it as it is until a new source is found. miranda:321:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question regarding 'Draft:Nicole Sahin'
Hi there, I wrote this article (Draft:Nicole Sahin) a few weeks back, and subsequently received feedback that the tone of some of the content was promotional and that some of the references weren't reliable. I have rectified the issues (or at least I believe I have) and I would now like to know where and how to ask one of you special Wikipedia souls to review it. Can you advise, please? KWriteReturn (talk) 23:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
KWriteReturn I (who am soulless) just looked at a single sentence, namely:
In 2005, Sahin joined the newly founded High Street Partners (HSP), a software-enabled international business services firm which facilitated the international expansion of fast-growing tech companies including Tesla and Duke University.
This cites one source, which doesn't mention "Sahin" (whose referent I think I understand) or "software-enabled" or "business services" (whose meanings, if any, I don't understand). (Does "business services" here mean advising businesses about all sorts of regulations? The source does talk about that.) It doesn't say that Tesla was growing fast.
Incidentally, "an extended period of time travelling" made me think of something about Doctor Who; but on rereading, it seemed to mean just "a long period travelling". Well, how long? (Just be direct: "after two years travelling" or whatever. Citing a reliable source, of course.)
The whole thing is in a kind of corporate-advertising-speak.
Hi! I was looking to create a discussion on combining parts of two articles (SEPTA City Transit Division surface routes and SEPTA Suburban Division bus routes) into a new, separate article called List of SEPTA bus routes. The City Transit Division and Suburban Transit Division are each notable enough to have their own content (they have distinct histories and strikes will be specific to either the city or suburban divisions), but with modern wayfinding changes to SEPTA, it makes no difference to everyday users whether they are on a city bus or suburban bus. Therefore, having a listing of SEPTA bus routes on Wikipedia would be best achieved in its own article rather than straddling two separate ones.
My main question is whether such a thing would best considered to be a split or a merge. It would be splitting the content from both articles, but also merging them both simultaneously... which approach would I take for starting that discussion? Emma Lexi Triphora (talk) 23:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the only way that distinction matters is if you're trying to find a top-of-page banner to draw attention to your proposal. It sounds more like a split, since that offers ways to have the target be an article that does not yet exist, whereas merging seems to require that the target does exist. As long as both articles are tagged and point to the same one location for discussion, that's all that I think really matters. Be sure to alert WT:PHILLY. DMacks (talk) 03:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was browsing through categories when I found the article for Yatai City. The point of view seems skewed and the sources seem either dubious or outright deprecated, as in the case of the Epoch Times. When I tried to find better sources with a quick google, there are only a few that seemed good. I just wanted to check that attempting to fix the article (which would probably require a full rewrite) was the correct course of action given that based on its recency and lack of a talk page I don't think it's been reviewed. Zygmeyer (talk) 02:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's very much the correct course -- unless, of course, the reliable sources aren't sufficient, whereupon AfD is called for. I note that the city is "strategically situated" (as if many others were situated by somebody blindfolded and sticking a pin into a map); and that "infrastructure construction" [can't we coin "infrastruction"?] was "on wasteland" -- as major "development" so often is, at least until one examines the criteria used to dub it "wasteland". Et cetera. Unfortunately I can't read either Chinese or Burmese and so can't help, but I wish you well. -- Hoary (talk) 03:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Suco: Letemumo
Suco nebee ho populasaun 11, 678 habitantes, iha aldei 6 nebee localiza iha posto administrativo quelicai ho nia aldeia mak lebenei, laumana, ruta, manume, waidora Iueus (talk) 03:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How do you save edits/changes to an existing article?
Sorry, a bit new here and can't seem to find the answer to this question. Also, where do you put the recommendations for new edits/editors to an existing article because you don't have enough knowledge about the subject to do the necessary changes? Eleniofillyria (talk) 04:14, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your first question: First use "Edit", and edit. Then "Preview changes", and check that what you did doesn't have any unwanted problems. Then "Publish changes". Your second question: At the foot of the article's "Talk" page. -- Hoary (talk) 06:38, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User Contributions
On the user contributions, I wonder if I can search for the specific page e.g. 'France' to see how many times or not they had edit this particular page? MoCars (talk) 05:08, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Request consideration of increased page protection for all political candidates
I have submitted a request for page protection for one state legislator page after seeing that Other Editors have noted changes to the page that may be from a political opponent.
Right now the page I reviewed has been edited recently to focus mostly on political positions rather than on the person's biography. I recommended that protection be installed immediately for that page to prevent any further biased posting and vandalism.
Now it occurs to me that perhaps we need a blanket increase in page protection for all political candidate pages at this point, since primaries are coming up in many states in the next few months. ProfessorKaiFlai (talk) 05:29, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Team, please help me get my draft page done better and approved faster. The page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Talkio_Mobile) is of a telecommunications company launching in a few months in Uganda. This implies that not much information on it is available for reference, but quite more will be in the near future. There have been questions of how related I am to the party, or if I have a conflict of interest in the submission. The answer is NO! I have been a growing technology journalist for the past 8 years and I have helped report on the underreported sector here in Uganda and Africa. It hurts when efforts like these, to make the unknown more known, are instead painted to be for selfish and personal interests. It discourages us as editors and makes us think that probably we are undervalued and have no regard paid to us. Kikonyogod (talk) 05:36, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kikonyogod: I asked you a perfectly standard question about a possible conflict of interest, no need to get worked up about it.
And Wikipedia is not here to help you promote upcoming anything. If the company hasn't even been launched yet, it is virtually guaranteed to be non-notable, and you will find it pretty much impossible to have an article on it accepted. Sorry to be blunt, but that's just a fact. Maybe give it a year, and try again then? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kikonyogod: Welcome to the Teahouse. As DoubleGrazing has said above, the subject appears to be too soon to have its own article for the time being. As an aside, your §Services section comes off as very promotional and would be unfit for an encyclopedia. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:19, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Kikonyogod, this draft comes with one reference. The source to which it points doesn't mention Talkio Mobile. You give me no reason not to think that an article on Talkio Mobile would contravene WP:CRYSTAL. I do not understand why you can't wait till more information about Talkio Mobile becomes available. (NB This information would have to come from reliable, disinterested sources.) -- Hoary (talk) 07:06, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Use of a Picture from the Commons on my Free Web site
I have a blog I use for very nerdy articles. Most are very nerdy topics. I'm stretching myself a bit by writing up an article on the Turing/Church proofs that the Entscheidungsproblem has no solution. I have no adds on my site, I don't have any way for people to even give me money if they want to. It isn't all altruistics. I'm more interested in attracting a (very small but focused) audience and that sometimes leads to business. Anyway, sorry this is way too much detail My question is if I take an image from Alonzo Church's Wikipedia page and use it on my blog are there any ownership issues? All I know about content ownership, copyright, etc. is I don't understand it but know its easy to do something you shouldn't. I would think this is fine perhaps I should provide some attribution. Please any suggestions. Sorry for the long email, its late and I've been working since... actually 5am. And I'm more or less retired. What can I say I like my work. Wikipedia rocks! I used to edit and still do once in a while and when my old boss gets depressed that the Internet didn't turn the world into a utopia of open information as he thought it would I remind him that we have things like Wikipedia one of the most wonderful examples of people doing things because they want to. Cheers! MadScientistX11 (talk) 06:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, MadScientistX11. Your header indicates that you are asking about images hosted on Wikimedia Commons. Every image or media file there (and there are an amazing 105 million of them) can be used by anybody for any purpose including commercial purposes without any restriction or asking for permission, except that many of them require attribution to the source. So, that is the general answer about Commons images, but then you mention Alonzo Church, and it is there that a problem arises. The portrait photo in that article is not hosted on Wikimedia Commons but rather right here on English Wikipedia. That is because the presumption is that the copyright to that photo belongs to Princeton University and that the photo is therefore neither in the public domain nor freely licensed. The English Wikipedia has a policy on use of non-free images. The policy is strict and the image must be low resolution, as is the case here. The circumstances where non-free images can be used are limited. One of those allowed uses is in biographies of people who have died, when no freely licensed or public domain image is known to exist. Clearly, it is not possible to take a photo of a man who died in 1995. So that justifies the use of the photo on English Wikipedia. The bottom line is that neither English Wikipedia nor Wikimedia Commons can give you permission to use this portrait photo, because the copyright presumably belongs to Princeton. The charmingly nerdy non-profit nature of your website has no bearing here. The principles I am describing apply to giant multinational corporations the same way as they apply to your website. If you decide to use the photo under the legal principle of fair use, then I suggest that you look for a higher resolution version on Princeton's websites, and credit them on your website. Cullen328 (talk) 07:51, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Almost all of the images on Wikimedia Commons should be freely reusable, but the requirements surrounding attribution and similar may vary, you can see c:Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia. However, some images on English Wikipedia, including the image on Alonzo Church(File:Alonzo Church.jpg) would be, or are assumed to be, under copyright, and can only be used under the fair use doctrine. This is generally because no freely reusable alternative can be located.
For the use of copyrighted works under fair use in US law, 17 U.S. Code § 107 considers the following 4 factors:
the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
the nature of the copyrighted work;
the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
So, I've written and fulfilled nearly a dozen article requests in the Military History section. Are the fulfilled requests supposed to be removed from the list or should they stay as is? Thanks. TheBrowniess (talk) 07:12, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, TheBrowniess. I commend you for working on requested articles. Once the new article is in main space, then please remove it from Requested Articles, with an edit summary stating that you wrote the article, with a wikilink to the new article. Cullen328 (talk) 07:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Editing contentious article
Hi. The "Gaza floating pier" article has a message that users with <500 edits may not edit it, but the article is not explicitly protected. I made an edit request, but the wizard gives an error message because the page is not protected: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaza_floating_pier#Adjust_short_description
Does the protection status of the page need to be adjusted, or is this simply an edge case not covered by the wizard? Will my edit request still be processed even if this warning appears? Yawkat (talk) 07:53, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Main page changes
Hi all hosts and newcomers,
In case you miss it, there has been/will be a change in the default settings for the Main Page. The Main Page will be full width mode by default.
In the Vector 2022 skin, main pages will be displayed at full width (like special pages). The goal is to keep the number of characters per line large enough. This is related to the coming changes to typography in Vector 2022. Learn more. [10]
I find the examples to be a bit contentious and the explanations to be paternalistic.
Examples include objective truths which you are taught should not be mentioned. And lack of evidence of causation presented as evidence of no causation.
I can see that the page has not been commented on since 2022, and wonder if it is time to discuss the examples again, as this is a page that many new user will visit.