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New to bots on Wikipedia? Read these primers!

To run a bot on the English Wikipedia, you must first get it approved. Follow the instructions below to add a request. If you are not familiar with programming consider asking someone else to run a bot for you.

 Instructions for bot operators
I Before applying for approval
  • Read the bot policy, and check the list of frequently denied bot requests.
  • If your task could be controversial (e.g. most bots making non-maintenance edits to articles and most bots posting messages on user talk pages), seek consensus for the task. Common places to start include WP:Village pump (proposals) and the talk pages of the relevant policies, guidelines, templates, and/or WikiProjects. Link to this discussion in your request for approval.
  • You will need to create an account for your bot if you haven't already done so. Click here when logged in to create the account, linking it to yours. (If you do not create the bot account while logged in, it is likely to be blocked as a possible sockpuppet or unauthorised bot until you verify ownership)
  • Create a userpage for your bot, linking to your userpage (this is commonly done using the {{bot}} template) and describing its functions. You may also include an 'emergency shutoff button'.
II Filing the application
  • Enter your bot's user name in the box below and click the button. If this is a request for an additional task, put a task number as well (e.g. BotName 2).
  • Complete the questions on the resulting page and save it.

  • Your request must now be added to the correct section of the main approvals page: Click here and add {{BRFA}} to the top of the list, directly below the comment line.
    • For a first request: use {{BRFA|bot name||Open}}
    • For an additional task request: use {{BRFA|bot name|task number|Open}}
III During the approvals process
  • During the process, an approvals group member may approve a trial for your bot (typically after allowing time for community input), and AnomieBOT will move the request to this section.
  • Run the bot for the specified number of edits/time period, then add {{Bot trial complete}} to the request page. It helps if you also link to the bot's contributions, and comment on any errors that may have occurred.
  • AnomieBOT will move the request to the 'trial complete' section by moving the {{BRFA}} template that applies to your bot
  • If you feel that your request is being overlooked (no BAG attention for ~1 week) you can add {{BAG assistance needed}} to the page. However, please do not use it after every comment!
  • At any time during the approvals process, you may withdraw your request by adding {{BotWithdrawn}} to your bot's approval page.
IV After the approvals process
  • After the trial edits have been reviewed and enough time has passed for any more discussion, a BAG member will approve or deny the request appropriately.
    • For approved requests: The request will be listed here. If necessary, a bureaucrat will flag the bot within a couple of days and you can then run the task fully (it's best to wait for the flag, to avoid cluttering recent changes). If the bot already has a flag, or is to run without one, you may start the task when ready.
    • For denied/expired/withdrawn requests: The request will be listed at the bottom of the main BRFA page in the relevant section.
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Bot Name Status Created Last editor Date/Time Last BAG editor Date/Time
KiranBOT 13 (T|C|B|F) Open 2024-10-18, 13:00:33 Usernamekiran 2024-10-18, 13:22:31 Never edited by BAG n/a
KiranBOT 12 (T|C|B|F) Open 2024-09-24, 15:59:32 Usernamekiran 2024-10-06, 20:33:12 The Earwig 2024-10-05, 16:10:12
RustyBot 2 (T|C|B|F) Open 2024-09-15, 15:17:54 Gonnym 2024-09-30, 10:10:42 Never edited by BAG n/a
PonoRoboT 2 (T|C|B|F) On hold 2024-07-20, 23:38:17 Primefac 2024-08-04, 23:49:03 Primefac 2024-08-04, 23:49:03
Platybot (T|C|B|F) Open 2024-07-08, 08:52:05 Primefac 2024-08-25, 20:09:43 Primefac 2024-08-25, 20:09:43
KiranBOT 10 (T|C|B|F) On hold 2024-09-07, 13:04:48 Usernamekiran 2024-10-06, 18:19:02 The Earwig 2024-10-05, 15:28:58
BaranBOT 6 (T|C|B|F) On hold 2024-09-15, 11:41:46 SD0001 2024-09-16, 12:41:02 SD0001 2024-09-16, 12:41:02
SodiumBot 2 (T|C|B|F) In trial 2024-07-16, 20:03:26 Novem Linguae 2024-08-08, 07:10:31 Primefac 2024-08-04, 23:51:27
DannyS712 bot III 74 (T|C|B|F) In trial: User response needed! 2024-05-09, 00:02:12 DreamRimmer 2024-10-06, 07:43:48 ProcrastinatingReader 2024-09-29, 10:59:04
AussieBot 1 (T|C|B|F) Extended trial: User response needed! 2023-03-22, 01:57:36 Hawkeye7 2024-10-02, 03:25:29 ProcrastinatingReader 2024-09-29, 10:54:10
FrostlySnowman 10 (T|C|B|F) In trial 2023-03-02, 02:55:00 DreamRimmer 2024-10-15, 14:17:23 SD0001 2024-09-18, 17:52:59
BaranBOT 7 (T|C|B|F) Trial complete 2024-09-18, 04:43:22 DreamRimmer 2024-10-14, 07:48:12 Primefac 2024-10-13, 19:10:43
Monkbot 20 (T|C|B|F) Trial complete 2024-10-07, 14:42:31 Jonesey95 2024-10-17, 17:04:48 Primefac 2024-10-13, 16:50:22

Current requests for approval

The following discussion is an archived debate. Please do not modify it. To request review of this BRFA, please start a new section at Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard. The result of the discussion was  Approved.

Mdann52 bot 14

Operator: Mdann52 (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 17:46, Monday, June 10, 2024 (UTC)

Function overview: Replace bare links in {{Football box}} to <ref></ref> tags

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: Automatic

Programming language(s): AWB

Source code available: Standard AWB with regex.

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): WP:BOTREQ#Bot to update match reports to cite template / Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 165#Match report discussion style

Edit period(s): one time run

Estimated number of pages affected: up to 20000 - Seems to be a real mix between bare references and ref tags, so estimating this high, but expecting to be less

Namespace(s): Article only.

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: The bot will replace bare URL links in the | report = parameter in {{Football box}} with a bare reference tag, this is per discussion on BOTREQ and the relevant WikiProject. One time AWB run with genfixes. Handles both bare links and links with titles.

Discussion

I know I know what I'm reading above, but it's not parsing properly in my head. Could you please give an example of the type of edit the bot will be making? Primefac (talk) 15:27, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Primefac: I know that feeling! See example diff I've just done manually. Mdann52 (talk) 16:53, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Approved for trial (50 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. Just to get a few more eyes on the situation, please do not mark these as minor. Primefac (talk) 17:57, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Trial complete. edits here. Mdann52 (talk) 08:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Approved. Primefac (talk) 12:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. To request review of this BRFA, please start a new section at Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard.
The following discussion is an archived debate. Please do not modify it. To request review of this BRFA, please start a new section at Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard. The result of the discussion was  Approved.

BaranBOT 2

Operator: DreamRimmer (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 14:01, Monday, May 27, 2024 (UTC)

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic

Programming language(s): Python

Source code available:

Function overview: Fix the URLs for the ECI election database.

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate):

Edit period(s): Every six months

Estimated number of pages affected: 5050

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): No

Already has a bot flag (Yes/No): No

Function details: The Election Commission of India has moved all of its data (except for very recent elections) to a subdomain. As a result, URLs in more than 5000 pages are now invalid and are giving a 404 error. This bot will replace URLs like https://eci.gov.in/files/file/11699-maharashtra-legislative-assembly-election-2019 with the new URL https://old.eci.gov.in/files/file/11699-maharashtra-legislative-assembly-election-2019. Simply replace https://eci.gov.in/ with https://old.eci.gov.in/.

Discussion

Why every six months? Primefac (talk) 18:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In India, elections are held in 5-6 states every year. As the elections approach or conclude, the ECI moves data from previous elections to this subdomain. This means that many URLs will become invalid after each year's elections. – DreamRimmer (talk) 22:19, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies if this is coming across as dense, just want to make sure I'm on the same page. Let's arbitrarily say that there's an election in July 2024, and the URL for those pages starts with https://eci.gov.in/ since it's a "recent election". At what point will that URL get archived to the https://old.eci.gov.in/ prefix? If it is archived after the subsequent election, why not just update the URL with the new election information along with the data it represents? Primefac (talk) 15:00, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that I don't know when ECI moves older election results to the old.eci URL. The recent elections, held in November 2023 in six states, were six months ago. So far, the ECI has moved three sets of election data to the old.eci domain. This suggests that they archive election data within six to ten months. For now, we can fix all these broken links, but we might need to do this again for future elections. If the BRFA folks think it's unnecessary to do this regularly (every six months), it's fine to handle it once. I'll try to submit a new BRFA in the future, and we can continue regularly if needed. – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Previous discussion Wikipedia:Link_rot/URL_change_requests#ECI_-_Election_Commission_of_India. Geoblocking is preventing outside-India bots and DreamRimmer has India IP access. DreamRimmer, to caution, there are many non-obvious problems that can arise when operating on URLs. Probably the biggest is archive URLs you don't want to modify. This PCRE regex should capture only non-archive URLs (untested):
(?<!/)(?<!\\?url=)https?://eci[.]gov[.]in/[^\\s\\]|}{<]*[^\\s\\]|}{<]*
Also verify the new URL is working before switching, do a header check, don't assume, websites always have error rates some higher than others. Other issues might arise, most problems will show up during the first 100 or so edits. Common trouble points are |url-status=, {{webarchive}} and {{dead link}}. Also links that are square and bare. It might too difficult to get all these exactly right, if you can change the main |url= and square URLs and verify the new URL works, that will go a long way! -- GreenC 15:51, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would definitely be cautious to avoid any potential mistakes. – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:57, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Approved for trial (100 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. Let's see how things get on. Primefac (talk) 15:25, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Trial complete. Edits. Everything worked as intended, and all the new URLs are working fine. I want to note that initially, the bot did not change the url-status for Mangolpuri Assembly constituency, Chandni Chowk Assembly constituency, and Bawana Assembly constituency, but this issue has since been resolved and now functions correctly. Pinging User:GreenC if they want to take a look. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I spot checked, don't see any problems. Can you confirm if it also modifies these types:
  1. Title
  2. https://eci.gov.in/files/file/4053-andhra-pradesh-2004/
ie. square (1) and bare (2) links. -- GreenC 17:56, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: these links are georestricted to India IPs and can't be archived, or archived very well. I found an article in The Hindu that talks about it. The article quotes one our most technically knowledgeable editors, User:Nemo_bis, who said: "Nemo has studied 'geofencing' of Indian government websites in the past, and in 2020 created a proxy service for users located abroad to access Indian government websites". This might be our solution. I hope Nemo has a working proxy for the Election Commission website? -- GreenC 17:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@GreenC, I am fixing all the links that start with https://eci.gov.in/files/file/, https://eci.gov.in/category, and https://eci.gov.in/ByeElection/. All these links are archived in a subdomain. The links for the 2023 elections of Chhattisgarh, Telangana, Rajasthan, Mizoram, and Madhya Pradesh are still working and have not been moved to the old subdomain, so I will not touch them.
  • The working links are formatted as follows: (eg.)
https://www.eci.gov.in/chhattisgarh-legislative-election-2023-statistical-report
https://www.eci.gov.in/mp-legislative-election-2023-statistical-report
https://www.eci.gov.in/mizoram-legislative-election-2023-statistical-report
  • The old election links are formatted as follows: (eg.)
https://eci.gov.in/files/file/9643-statistical-data-of-general-election-to-chhatisgarh-assembly-2018/ (now https://old.eci.gov.in/files/file/9643-statistical-data-of-general-election-to-chhatisgarh-assembly-2018/)
https://eci.gov.in/files/file/9685-madhya-pradesh-legislative-election-2018-statistical-report/ (now https://old.eci.gov.in/files/file/9685-madhya-pradesh-legislative-election-2018-statistical-report/)
https://eci.gov.in/files/file/9687-mizoram-legislative-election-2018-statistical-report/ (now https://old.eci.gov.in/files/file/9687-mizoram-legislative-election-2018-statistical-report/)
Other links that start with https://eci.gov.in/category and https://eci.gov.in/ByeElection/ have all been moved to the subdomain, so I will need to fix them. – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My read of the above is that this is ready for approval, but I just want to double-check given the discussion above. Primefac (talk) 23:34, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
{{Operator assistance needed}} Primefac (talk) 13:12, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Primefac, please let me know if you need me to explain this again. – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't necessarily need any explanation, just wanted to make sure your last reply to GreenC was clarification that the issues can be resolved, and not further complications; the first time I read it about two weeks ago it sounded like the latter, but when I made my comment last week it was after re-reading it and it sounded more like the former. Primefac (talk) 16:51, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Primefac, I was just noting that in addition to correcting https://eci.gov.in/files/file/* urls, this task will also be correcting https://eci.gov.in/category/*, and https://eci.gov.in/ByeElection/* urls too. This is already done and the bot is ready to start its work once this BRFA gets approval. – DreamRimmer (talk) 11:35, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Savvy.  Approved. Primefac (talk) 11:58, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. To request review of this BRFA, please start a new section at Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard.
The following discussion is an archived debate. Please do not modify it. To request review of this BRFA, please start a new section at Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard. The result of the discussion was Request Expired.

Dušan Kreheľ (bot) VIII

Operator: Dušan Kreheľ (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 05:50, Sunday, April 7, 2024 (UTC)

Function overview: Update of the statistical office link in the section "External links" for all Slovak municipalities

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: Semi-automatic

Programming language(s): Wikimate, custom code

Source code available: own code: no

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate):

Edit period(s): One time.

Estimated number of pages affected: less than 3000 pages

Namespace(s): Mainspace

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): No

Function details:

  • The intention is only to update items with an existing link, and not to add where there are none.

Discussion

Request Expired. See comments at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Dušan Kreheľ (bot) VII. Primefac (talk) 15:36, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The following discussion is an archived debate. Please do not modify it. To request review of this BRFA, please start a new section at Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard. The result of the discussion was Request Expired.

Dušan Kreheľ (bot) VII

Operator: Dušan Kreheľ (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 09:24, Friday, February 16, 2024 (UTC)

Function overview: Area, population and population density update of Infobox settlement in Slovak settlements.

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: Semi-automatic

Programming language(s): Wikimate, own code

Source code available:

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Requests for approval/Dušan Kreheľ (bot): I, V, VI.

Edit period(s): Standard one time per year.

Estimated number of pages affected: up to 3000.

Namespace(s): Mainspace.

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): No.

Function details:

List of pages to edit: list + Western Slovakia (Q696333) + Central Slovakia (Q1541057) and Eastern Slovakia (Q363496).
In the pages to change the template call Infobox settlement with parameters (or later similar):
Key Value format
population_total POPULATION
population_density_km2 auto
population_as_of YEAR-12-31
{{Tooltip|YEAR|YEAR-12-31}}
population_density_sq_mi
population_footnotes <ref>{{cite web |url=POPULATION_URL |title=POPULATION_TITLE |author=POPULATION_COPYRIGHT |date= |website=COPYRIGHT_URL |publisher= |access-date=ACCES_DATE}}</ref>
area_total_km2 AREA
area_total_sq_mi
area_note YEAR-06-31/YEAR-07-01
({{Tooltip|YEAR|YEAR-06-31/YEAR-07-01}})
area_footnotes <ref>{{cite web |url=AREA_URL |title=AREA_TITLE |author=AREA_COPYRIGHT |date= |website=COPYRIGHT_URL |publisher= |access-date=ACCES_DATE}}</ref>

Pairing of statistical data with parties is performed on the basis of: Wikidata and STUN/LUA codes.

The example of change: Special:Diff/1208032241.
A task is a task that is performed on multiple Wikipedias (link).

Discussion

  • Comment to BAG: Please note the sordid history of this editor's bot activity. It is/was blocked for good reasons. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:10, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This editor had problems with misspelling and inconsistency in the past. I have concerns that this pattern will continue, evidenced by invalid use of <ins>...</ins> tags and an unclosed <p> tag in the original post here (I have correct both in this edit), as well as misspelling of "ACCES_DATE" and the proposal to use the YYYY-MM-DD format in articles where another date format may be preferred. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:27, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • My question is this: the bot's first BRFA was approved, and later revoked. This task is nearly identical to that task. What is different about this task that should allow it to be approved when what appears to be the same task was already revoked? Primefac (talk) 08:38, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Primefac: Request n. I is a multi-task with several sub-tasks and with a looser specification. Unlike that task, this task determines the boundaries of this task in detail. That task was not canceled due to the reason that "this sub-task of request n. I" makes errors. Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 19:07, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I remember reviewing the original BRFA. I never closed because, regardless of whether the implementation was technically correct (and I remember being a bit unsure of that), I was a bit uncomfortable as to whether the bot operator can comply with the requirements WP:BOTPOL places on operators. Things like WP:BOTCOMM and WP:BOTISSUE for instance. Therefore I'm also unsure about approving this bot task. Perhaps other BAG feel differently here. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 13:12, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @ProcrastinatingReader: What points from WP:BOTCOMM? Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 11:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Non-BAG member comment) The past conduct is concerning, but I'm also equally concerned about the comment by ProcrastinatingReader about BOTCOMM compliance from the operator. I'm actually extremely concerned if a botop thinks a bot with revoked approval (which almost never seems to actually occur) should be unblocked without a successful BRFA first (see their noticeboard post, here. EggRoll97 (talk) 04:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Request Expired. Based on this discussion and others, there is clearly some major reservations from BAG regarding the appropriateness of this task, but there is not enough for anyone to feel comfortable declining it outright. Additionally, the bot operator has gone on hiatus. I am expiring this because clearly there needs to be some space between past attempts and a new BRFA. My recommendation to the bot operator, if they wish to continue this task, is to get consensus and determine what needs fixing, how it will be fixed, and get consensus that the proposed task is a "good thing". After these things happen, a new BRFA can be filed. Primefac (talk) 15:39, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The following discussion is an archived debate. Please do not modify it. To request review of this BRFA, please start a new section at Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard. The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by operator.

BattyBot 81

Operator: GoingBatty (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 14:12, Wednesday, February 7, 2024 (UTC)

Function overview: Replace {{coord missing}} with {{coord|source:wikidata|display=title}}

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: Automatic

Programming language(s): AutoWikiBrowser

Source code available: AWB

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Wikipedia:Bot requests#Using coordinates on Wikidata

Edit period(s): Monthly

Estimated number of pages affected: 20,661

Namespace(s): Mainspace

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: Category:Articles missing coordinates with coordinates on Wikidata contains 20,335 articles tagged with {{coord missing}}, but they all have coordinates available on Wikidata. This bot would replace {{coord missing}} with {{coord|source:wikidata|display=title}} which will fetch the coordinates from Wikidata (e.g. this edit). This bot will also run AWB's general fixes. Thank you for your consideration.

Discussion

This might be a dumb question, but if every page indicating that it is missing coords is already on Wikipedia, why do we have this template? Why not just make it a wrapper/redirect to {{coord}}? I know that MSGJ asked for this, and I trust their judgment, but this seems like a lot of work if it's that trivial of an issue. Primefac (talk) 14:26, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Primefac: {{coord missing}} contains 93,000 pages. Only 20,000 of them have coordinates on Wikidata. However, if you'd like to update the templates so this request would be moot, that's fine with me. GoingBatty (talk) 14:39, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, as I said... dumb question. Apparently I can't read, and (for some reason) thought that was also the transclusion count. Primefac (talk) 14:46, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean that if coordinates are on Wikidata then we can just change the behaviour of {{coord missing}} so that it uses those coordinates instead of populating the maintenance category? Yes, that could be possible. The only disadvantages I can think of:
  1. It will still say "coord missing" in the wikicode which could be misleading
  2. The template may not be placed in the usual place (e.g. at the top) that the coord template is usually placed.
— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. {{coord missing}} should be changed to {{coord}}, see below for more detail. — The Anome (talk) 17:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be happy to support this, with one proviso, that the {{coord}} template be changed so that transclusion from Wikidata was gated via a "source=wikidata" parameter, so that it was clear on the enwiki side why the edit was made, and where the coordinates were being pulled from. So {{coord missing|Name of region}} would become {{coord|source=wikidata|display=title}}. — The Anome (talk) 17:02, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That parameter is not required by the template, so are you just putting that in for explanatory purposes and the template will just ignore it? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Putting it there for explanatory and tracking purposes, so we can see how it got there and why. Right now, the template should ignore it, but might also be useful to let us add extra semantics to {{coord}}. For example: right now, if you add {{coord|display=title}} to an article that doesn't have coordinates on Wikidata, it blows up in an uninformative and mystifying way. Having this extra parameter might let the error message be improved, and also let such erroneous articles be put in a tracking category.

From my viewpoint as a maintainer of the {{coord missing}} ecosystem, the more tracking metadata we have, the better. I'm committed to a long-term transition to Wikidata as the master source of geodata, but it's going to be a long process, and the more we can smooth the transition by having backward and forward compatibility during the transition process, the better. — The Anome (talk) 17:09, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay thanks for the explanation. I support this approach. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:27, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'm glad you're stepping up for this; ecosystems made out of multiple single-purpose bots that use wikitext, templates and categories for orchestration are generally more robust that those which rely on complex multi-purpose bots. — The Anome (talk) 17:30, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@The Anome and MSGJ: Updated this bot request to change to {{coord|source:wikidata|display=title}} (e.g. this edit). (Note that |source=wikidata generates an error.) GoingBatty (talk) 19:44, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks all, I noticed the lack of "where is this data coming from" earlier but got distracted and never came back to express my concern; this seems to deal with the issue in a suitable manner. Primefac (talk) 21:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What sort of error? source:wikidata seems unhelpful for populating a tracking category (if desired) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:38, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the source parameter gives an error, the template can and should be changed to fix that. I've put forward a proposal on this on the template's talk page. — The Anome (talk) 21:40, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MSGJ, @The Anome: Go to 2024 Istanbul church shooting, click "Edit source", change source:wikidata to source=wikidata, then click "Show preview", and you'll see a message at the top right of the article next to the coordinates which states Coordinates: Parameter: "source=" should be "source:". GoingBatty (talk) 22:30, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. I also support The Anome's proposals to change these strange parameters — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to use any new parameters in this request. GoingBatty (talk) 14:37, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@The Anome and MSGJ: If it's the template deciding when it pulls data from WikiData (presumably when no parameters are supplied and data is available on WD), then wouldn't it make sense for the template/module to add things into a tracking cat, rather than it be a parameter. Because the parameter might not be accurate as it's not the source of truth, right? e.g.:
  1. One could write {{Coord|57|18|22|N|4|27|32|W|source=wikidata}}, so the actual data isn't shown via WD but the parameter is still there
  2. One could write {{Coord}}, and the actual data is from WD but the source parameter hasn't been supplied, so is not in a tracking cat
ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 12:09, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 On hold. pending fix to the {{coord}} template (assuming that's the consensus here). Please deactivate the template/ping when the issue is resolved. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 12:05, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Primefac Withdrawn by operator. I haven't been following whether {{coord}} has been fixed. GoingBatty (talk) 14:37, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Bots in a trial period

DannyS712 bot III 74

Operator: DannyS712 (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 00:02, Thursday, May 9, 2024 (UTC)

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic

Programming language(s): JavaScript

Source code available: TBD

Function overview: Automatically mark redirects created by Wikipedia:Page movers as part of a page move as "patrolled" in the new page patrol / page curation system

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers/Archive 51#Idea to reduce redirect backlog

Edit period(s): Continuous

Estimated number of pages affected: Lots

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): No

Already has a bot flag (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: The code will be added to my current redirect patrolling bot rules (see User:DannyS712 bot III/rules for the current rules) once I write it. You can see the implementation I intend to use is to patrol all redirects based on the query below.

If possible, I'd like to request speedy approval and/or a time-based trial, so that I don't need to add a whole bunch of logic to the bot to count how many redirects have already been patrolled in the trial.

Query to run
SELECT
	page_id AS 'pageid',
	page_title AS 'title',
	ptrpt_value AS 'target',
	actor_name AS 'creator'
FROM
	page
	JOIN pagetriage_page ON page_id = ptrp_page_id
	JOIN pagetriage_page_tags ON ptrp_page_id = ptrpt_page_id
	JOIN revision rv ON page_latest = rev_id
	JOIN actor ON rev_actor = actor_id
	JOIN user_groups ON actor_user = ug_user
WHERE
	ptrp_reviewed = 0
	AND ptrpt_tag_id = 9 # Snippet
	AND page_namespace = 0
	AND page_is_redirect = 1
	AND EXISTS (
		# Only 1 revision based on rev_count page triage tag
		SELECT 1
		FROM pagetriage_page_tags tags2
		WHERE tags2.ptrpt_page_id = page_id
		AND tags2.ptrpt_tag_id = 7
		AND tags2.ptrpt_value = 1
	)
	AND EXISTS (
		# Move log from the same time by the same person
		SELECT 1
		FROM logging_logindex lgl2
		WHERE log_namespace = page_namespace
		AND log_title = page_title
		AND log_timestamp = rev_timestamp
		AND log_actor = rev_actor
		AND log_type = 'move'
		AND log_action = 'move'
	)
	AND ug_group = 'extendedmover'

LIMIT 100;

Discussion

Approved for trial (100 edits or 14 days, whichever happens first). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 10:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC) count updated. Primefac (talk) 17:03, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ProcrastinatingReader the bot reports to User:DannyS712 bot III/Redirects.json every 15 minutes with the redirects that it patrols and why - a 14 day trial will be 1344 entries to scan through, and I would expect that almost all of the relevant entries would be on the first run (for any existing backlog) - would a shorter trial be okay? Like a day (or even less)? --DannyS712 (talk) 16:13, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
( Peanut gallery comment) I am BOLDly adding {{BAG assistance needed}}: {{BAG assistance needed}} HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:32, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've tweaked the trial numbers. Primefac (talk) 17:03, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a reason that a single day trial (as requested by Danny) would be a Bad Thing? Of course, I am not a bot op, so there might be something I am unaware of :) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 22:39, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also wondering that - also the "whichever happens first" means I would still need to add some logic to count how many redirects have been patrolled in the trial already --DannyS712 (talk) 12:18, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
{{bag assistance needed}} (apologies for using this a lot as of late...) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 22:45, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Though I cannot speak on his behalf, I imagine a concern that @Primefac: may have had would be that the bot might be done within a day. What are your thoughts, Primefac? Provided that it won't actually complete within a day, I don't see an issue with a 1 day trial. cc @DannyS712: --TheSandDoctor Talk 04:24, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I had no concerns; I thought I was giving the botop what they wanted. They said 14 days was too long and there would be too many actions to look at. I threw out 100 as our standard number (which does happen to be "about a day's worth" when you do the maths) because on these "not sure how many per day" requests it might be only a few dozen over 14 days. Danny is a trusted botop and while it needs to go through a trial to make sure everything is working, we are not going to begrudge a handful of edits on either side of 100 if the task can be shown to be operating within expected parameters. So sure, run it for a day and see where you end up. Primefac (talk) 00:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And yes, HouseBlaster, using the assistance template twice in ten days is a bit excessive. Primefac (talk) 00:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DannyS712: did you see the above? TheSandDoctor Talk 22:20, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, sorry, I was out of town for a while but am back and will do bot stuff again soon --DannyS712 (talk) 02:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A user has requested the attention of the operator. Once the operator has seen this message and replied, please deactivate this tag. (user notified) @DannyS712: is there still interest in pursuing this task? or are you happy to mark this as withdrawn for the time being? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 10:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DannyS712 seems to be away at the moment. I think we can safely mark this as inactive until they return or if the stand-in botop is willing to take over this item. pinging @DreamRimmer for attention. – robertsky (talk) 02:12, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Out of 414 page movers, about 300 are either listed for redirect autopatrol or already have autopatrolled rights. Since this query shows no backlog, I think if we see a backlog of 100 or more, I will go ahead and add this functionality. For now, let's wait a little longer for Danny. – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:43, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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StradBot 2

Operator: Mr. Stradivarius (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 03:19, Saturday, February 17, 2024 (UTC)

Function overview: Automatically populate sandboxes for modules listing disambiguation templates, set index templates or soft redirect templates; and if necessary issue edit requests to update the main modules.

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: Automatic

Programming language(s): Python (Pywikibot framework)

Source code available: https://github.com/mrstradivarius/dabtemplates

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Template talk:Pagetype#Detecting pages with Template:Wiktionary redirect and other soft redirects (permalink)

Edit period(s): Daily

Estimated number of pages affected: 5

Namespace(s): Module, module talk, template talk

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: This is an expansion of Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/StradBot (task 1). Task 1 was for updating a disambiguation template list for Module:Disambiguation; this task expands this to two more use cases: updating a list of set index pages for Module:Pagetype, and updating a list of soft redirects, also for Module:Pagetype.

The bot uses the following algorithm. This has not changed since task 1.

  1. The bot constructs a list of disambiguation templates, set index templates or soft redirect templates. The list includes template redirects. It does this by iterating through all templates in a specific category (the -cat option). Non-templates are ignored, as are templates in the bot's exclusion list (the -exclude option). It then retrieves redirects for all of these templates.
  2. It formats the list of templates and template redirects as a Lua table, and saves the result in a module sandbox (the -data-page-sandbox option). Saving is skipped if the module's content would not change. You can see sample output from the bot here.
  3. If the sandbox module was updated, and if its new content is different from that of the main module (the -data-page option), then the bot adds an edit request to update the main module to the relevant talk page (the -data-talk-page option). There is a sample edit request here.

The bot will be used to update the following modules:

# Use case Option Value Notes
1 Update disambiguation templates for Module:Disambiguation. -data-page-sandbox Module:Disambiguation/templates/sandbox Already approved in Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/StradBot.
-data-page Module:Disambiguation/templates
-data-talk-page Module talk:Disambiguation
-cat Category:Disambiguation message boxes
-exclude Template:Dmbox
2 Update set index templates for Module:Pagetype. -data-page-sandbox Module:Pagetype/setindex/sandbox
-data-page Module:Pagetype/setindex
-data-talk-page Template talk:Pagetype
-cat Category:Set index article templates
-exclude Template:Dmbox
3 Update soft redirect templates for Module:Pagetype. -data-page-sandbox Module:Pagetype/softredirect/sandbox
-data-page Module:Pagetype/softredirect
-data-talk-page Template talk:Pagetype
-cat Category:Templates for soft redirects
-exclude Template:Resolve category redirect

Discussion

Approved for trial (one-time run). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. – SD0001 (talk) 05:58, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A user has requested the attention of the operator. Once the operator has seen this message and replied, please deactivate this tag. (user notified) @Mr. Stradivarius: is there still interest in pursuing this task? or are you happy to mark this as withdrawn? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 10:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ProcrastinatingReader: The task is still open and valid, but I'm not likely to get around to it in the near future. I will withdraw this BRFA for now, and reinstate it if time allows. (Would I need to do so in a new request?) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawn by operator. Sure. Either a new request or reopening this one would be okay, whichever you prefer. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 22:52, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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PearBOT 14

Operator: Trialpears (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 20:06, Thursday, December 28, 2023 (UTC)

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic

Programming language(s): Pywikibot

Source code available: Dictionary generator, Box adder, Continuous editing and Huge dictionary

Function overview: Adds {{Other TfDs}} boxes with links to all previous TfD discussions concerning a nominated template.

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Wikipedia talk:Templates for discussion#Automatically listing old discussions

Edit period(s): Checks the daily TfD subpage once an hour for new discussions, actually edits a few times a week. Also a large one time addition for all past discussion.

Estimated number of pages affected: Maybe 2000-2500 when applying boxes to discussions retroactively (one time only). When in continuous use maybe a dozen a week.

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Already has a bot flag (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: The bot consists of 3 parts. One script that goes through all Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log subpages and scrapes what templates were discussed (linked in {{Tfd links}}), the result and the link to the discussion. This information is added to a 14 MB python dictionary. Relists are ignored. Part two goes through all the same pages and adds an {{Other TfDs}} box if one of the templates has been discussed some other time (either previously or later) as determined by the dictionary. There are up to ~3000 discussions out of ~56,000 that could get such a box, but the real number will be less due to identical mass noms and templates nominated more than twice being double counted. The third script would check the TfD subpage of the day for new discussions each hour and adds them to the dictionary. If any discussion needs a box it adds one there and updates previous discussions to include a link to the new one. This script isn't written yet, but will mostly consist of parts from the other two scripts. These user pages have a small number of successful test edits: 1, 2, and 3.

Discussion

Linking older discussions from new ones is fine, but I don't think modifying older discussions to link to the newer ones is a good idea – the archive headers say to not modify the closed discussion. – SD0001 (talk) 20:59, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@SD0001 On AfD the corresponding feature uses Special:Prefixindex. This results in links to future discussions being automatically added. This is useful and in no way alters the contents of the discussion. I believe we should do the same here. Trialpears (talk) 21:08, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with SD0001 on this matter; past discussions do not necessarily need to have a link to further-past discussions as all discussions in question are already closed; in other words I see no tangible benefit (though as I stated in the BOTREQ I think this is a good idea going forward). Primefac (talk) 08:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
On the other hand why not? Retroactive is not the sort of task that I would see as actively worth doing, but if someone wants to do it then more power to them. "Please do not modify it" on closed discussions has never been an absolute rule. I would have the template clearly state it was added retroactively, but the addition is IMO useful and causes little harm. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:02, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's also two different sets of code, but I see your point. Primefac (talk) 19:00, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Approved for trial. Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. I want this to be run in two separate batches. One batch will be "50 edits or 14 days, whichever comes first" and will only deal with new nominations. The second batch will be 25 edits to historical log pages to see proof of concept. Ideally if you could run them that way so the contributions are easier to split, that would be great. Feel free to start with the second batch first since it's not time-dependent. Primefac (talk) 19:00, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Request Expired. Based on Special:Diff/1228996907 I do not think this will be getting out of trial. Primefac (talk) 00:21, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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CapsuleBot 2

Operator: Capsulecap (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 00:14, Wednesday, June 14, 2023 (UTC)

Function overview: This task checks the Top 25 Report page frequently to see if the current report has updated. If it was updated, then it will go through all pages in the new report and add or update the Template:Top 25 Report template on their talk pages.

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: Automatic

Programming language(s): Python

Source code available: No, but if necessary I can upload it

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Wikipedia:Bot requests#Top 25 report

Edit period(s): Daily

Estimated number of pages affected: 25 pages/week

Namespace(s): Talk

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): No

Function details: This task first checks the page Wikipedia:Top 25 Report to see if the transcluded link was modified. (This should mean that the report was updated.) If it has, then it uses the first revision of the transcluded page, which is always a basic list, to get a list of article talk pages to modify. It then goes through each talk page, updating the Template:Top 25 Report template if it exists and adding it if not. As for exclusion compliance, I have not added that feature in yet.

Discussion

The Top 25 report is updated weekly. Why does this task need to run twice a day? Primefac (talk) 09:08, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to ensure that the template is added quickly. I've changed it to daily, and if it should be longer then you can tell me. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 14:24, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Additionally, some reports (including the one for last week) are finished late, and do not get added until later on. I wanted to ensure that the pages on the report get the template on their talk page. If the next report is done on time, then the maintainers of the report will replace the transclusion to the late report with the new one less than a week after the old report replaced the one before it. I agree that twice a day was a bit too excessive. Daily should be fine. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 14:28, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Capsulecap is right about this. And task need to run twice a day.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:58, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Approved for trial (1 days). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. I'm trying to wrap my head around what's this bot supposed to do exactly, so I'm going to approve it for a one-time run of 1 day. This should give me (and perhaps others) a better idea of what this is about. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:34, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Headbomb: Although I did a trial run, the bot made test edits with numerous errors. I have fixed the code causing these issues, and will (with permission) restart the trial when the next report comes in. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 19:51, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Capsulecap: can you link to the results nonetheless? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:46, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
See edits 4 through 29. Note that the newest three edits were a test run for a fix to something which happened in Talk:Elemental (2023 film), and that many incorrect edits were caused by other editors modifying talk pages to add the template before the test run was done. Although the bot will not add redundant templates assuming that nobody adds the top 25 placement before it, I am considering adding redundancy protection. One problem — the one on the page about the Titan submarine incident — was one I didn't think of, as the talk page was moved with the main page, causing the top 25 report template to be placed on a redirect instead of the actual talk page. This is a problem I am working on fixing, as I have noticed that "current events" pages that show up on the report often frequently get moved. The bot also ended up creating the page "Talk:Errible things in Russia, the North Atlantic and HBO have the most attention this week.", but I fixed the source issue and tagged the page for CSD. few of the edits are fine, and most would be fine if there was redundancy protection or if the top 25 templates didn't already have the week in there. One question, though — since the bot will run daily, and people wouldn't need to modify top 25 templates anymore — should I implement redundancy protection? Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 02:46, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Should I implement redundancy protection" I would say that's a good idea, regardless of how often it comes into play. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:52, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I just finished implementing the redundancy protection along with the redirect traversal stuff. The bot should work just fine now. Do I have to redo the trial? Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 04:35, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Trial complete. See 21 most recent contributions. Out of the 25 pages in the June 25th to July 1st edition, 21 pages were correctly edited, two pages (Talk:Money in the Bank (2023) and Talk:Titan submersible implosion) were not edited because of unexpected and likely erroneous formatting in the report's first revision (a space was in place of the usual tab after those two pages' titles), and two pages were not edited as they already had this week in their templates. For context on those two pages which didn't get the template on accident, the first revision of the report is always an imported set of tab delimited data — in this case, spaces were in place of tabs for the names of those two articles. The bot created two new talk pages on accident, which I quickly tagged for CSD. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 05:48, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Update: I've come up with a solution to this problem and will be implementing and testing it soon. This is the last issue which I will have to fix. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 16:26, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Approved for extended trial (25 edits or 7 days). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. One week's worth, or 25 edits, whichever you need. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:16, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Trial complete. See See 25 most recent contributions. This time, I verified that all edits the bot would make would be correct on a script that had editing commented out. They were all good edits, so I ran the full script. All 25 pages on the report had the template added or changed on their talk pages. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 01:57, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Most seemed fine, but there was this that stood out.
Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:59, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed that and didn't pay much attention to it as it was merely cosmetic. Since that was considered problematic, I'll get to fixing that and keeping the collapse as the last edit. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 14:57, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
For testing you can revert to a prior state and unleash the bot on it. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:17, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Trial complete. See 22 most recent edits. Also see this test edit which the bot made in user talk space showing a similar condition to the page Talk:Deaths in 2023. If you would like, I can manually revert the edit on Talk:Deaths in 2023 which added the newest date and run the bot again to show you. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 19:58, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well... the collapsed stuff is handled correctly, but now it's inconsistent the other way around. It should list the ranks when they're there, or omit them when they're not.
Or, probably a better idea, update old listings to list the ranks, e.g. [1]. You might need some discussion before though. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:18, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's a good idea to retroactively add the rankings to the templates, but I'm not sure of where to obtain consensus for that, and it would either require a bot task or lots of manual work. The other way you listed is probably easier, but causes inconsistency between pages. Something else I thought of is a Lua module that automatically grabs the placements, but I'm not sure if such a thing is supported. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 20:30, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What if it deleted what was there first, then re-added the template with all dates and ranks? In the same edit that is. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:46, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It could work, but I think I would have to submit a separate bot task for that. A separate (and much simpler) approach would be to add a "ranks" parameter that does nothing to the bot category. If set to yes, then the bot will add ranks when it updates the report. Otherwise or if unset, the bot will only add the date. This maintains consistency within talk pages, but not between talk pages; the latter would require consensus strongly towards either using ranks or not. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 21:03, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Approved for extended trial (25 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. Indeed, consistency within talk pages is usually a lesser threshold to clear. I'm giving you trial for that (make sure to include a mix of both types of edits), but if you want to have that (should we always rank things) discussion first, you can also wait for consensus to emerge before trialing. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:11, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Capsulecap, are you still doing this? — Qwerfjkltalk 14:43, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I am. Have taken a long break from editing but I never canceled this bot project. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 15:44, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

{{Operator assistance needed}} It has been more than a month since the last post, is this trial still ongoing? Primefac (talk) 13:26, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. As I said a long time ago, I wasn't really maintaining activity onwiki or paying attention to this page. I've decided to come back to wikipedia at some point in the near future (within 1-2 months) but I can add the features to the project. Thanks for reaching out. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 22:27, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Primefac: I've added support for that ranks attribute, as is seen in the 5 most recent bot edits, all of which are to my test pages. I've also created support for converting preexisting top25 templates of the alternate form into regular form top 25s, and made it so top 25 report templates longer than 800 bytes are collapsed. I will test the bot once the report is switched to the current week, which should be on Saturday or Sunday. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 01:34, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Primefac: Status: Current run had too many problems to use as a final trial. Fixed 2 bugs here. Should be ready to be released any week now. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 03:27, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Primefac: Status: Apparently what I said above was wrong. The bot works fine on the average page but I forgot to put the ranks parameter on new templates. That has since been fixed. However, there are several larger problems that I discovered on this run — the bot broke another bot's template that was split over two lines (how rude of it!), and the entries in the report were changed from the first entry, necessitating me to delete templates from two talk pages. For some reason it also ignored the page Franz Beckenbauer in the first revision, but that shouldn't be a problem once I manage to switch over to using the newest revision with tables. Also created a list at User:CapsuleBot/Todo. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 02:36, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Capsulecap: any update on this? If it's a bit of a medium-term item and not actively worked on, are you happy to mark this BRFA as withdrawn for the time being? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 10:56, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Request Expired. Going to mark this as expired. Feel free to reopen, or create a new BRFA, if you're back and still wish to pursue this task. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 22:54, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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AussieBot 1

Operator: Hawkeye7 (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 01:57, Wednesday, March 22, 2023 (UTC)

Function overview: Mark unassessed stub articles as stubs

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: Automatic

Programming language(s): C#

Source code available: Not yet

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 84#Stub assessments with ORES

Edit period(s): daily

Estimated number of pages affected: < 100 per day

Namespace(s): Talk

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: Go through Category:Unassessed articles (only deals with articles already tagged as belonging to a project). If an unassessed article is rated as a stub by ORES, tag the article as a stub. Example

Discussion

  • information Note: This bot appears to have edited since this BRFA was filed. Bots may not edit outside their own or their operator's userspace unless approved or approved for trial. AnomieBOT⚡ 00:10, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    ^. Also, may potentially be a CONTEXTBOT; see Wikipedia:Stub: There is no set size at which an article stops being a stub. EpicPupper (talk) 23:04, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    The Bot run only affects unassessed articles rated as stubs by mw:ORES. The ORES ratings for stubs are very reliable (some false negatives – which wouldn't be touched under this proposal – but no false positives). Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:03, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Approved for trial (50 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. Sounds reasonable as ORES is usually good for assessing stub articles as such. – SD0001 (talk) 11:41, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    checkY Bot run with 50 edits. No problems reported. Diffs: [2]. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:42, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Some behavior I found interesting is that the bot is reverting start-class classifications already assigned by a human editor, and overriding those with stub-class. [3] and [4] EggRoll97 (talk) 03:28, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    This should not be happening. Frostly (talk) 03:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    The question is: what should be happening? The article were flagged because some of the projects were not assessed. Should the Bot (1) assess the unassessed ones as stubs and ignore the assessed ones or (2) align the unassessed ones with the ones that are assessed? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:21, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Per recent consensus assessments should be for an entire article, not per WikiProject. The bot should amend the template to use the article wide code. If several projects have different assessments for an article it should leave it alone. Frostly (talk) 05:03, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Hawkeye7: Courtesy ping, I've manually fixed up the edits where the bot replaced an assessment by a human editor. 6 edits total to be fixed out of 52 total edits. EggRoll97 (talk) 07:16, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Bot has been amended. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:51, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
{{BAG assistance needed}} This has been waiting for over 2 months since the end of the trial, and over 4 months since the creation of the request. Given the concerns expressed that the bot operator has since fixed, an extended trial may be a good idea here. EggRoll97 (talk) 05:19, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies. I have been very busy. Should I run the new Bot again with a few more edits? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:57, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Approved for extended trial (50 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. – SD0001 (talk) 19:10, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:33, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

{{Operator assistance needed}} It has been more than a month since the last post, is this trial still ongoing? Primefac (talk) 13:26, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I wrote the bot using my C# API, and due to a necessary upgrade here, my dotnet environment got ahead of the one on the grid. I could neither build locally and run on the grid nor on build on the grid. (I could have run the trial locally but would not have been able to deploy to production.) There is currently a push to move bots onto Kubernetes containers, but there was no dotnet build pack available. The heroes on Toolforge have now provided one for dotnet, and I will be testing it when I return from vacation next week. If all goes well I will finally be able to deploy the bot and run the trial at last. See phab:T311466 for details. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:54, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A user has requested the attention of the operator. Once the operator has seen this message and replied, please deactivate this tag. (user notified) Primefac (talk) 20:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Work was done in January and some changes made on Toolforge. Will resume the trial run when I get a chance. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:33, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hawkeye7: any update on this? If it's a bit of a medium-term item and not actively worked on, are you happy to mark this BRFA as withdrawn for the time being? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 10:54, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My technical problems have been resolved. A new trial run will be conducted this week. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:26, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
[5][6][7][8][9][10] etc Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:15, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One important change: Liftwing is being used instead of ORES now. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:25, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FrostlySnowman 10

Operator: Frostly (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 02:55, Thursday, March 2, 2023 (UTC)

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic

Programming language(s):

Source code available:

Function overview: Replace AMP links in citations

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): BOTREQ, Village Pump

Edit period(s): Weekly

Estimated number of pages affected: Unknown, estimated to be in the range of hundreds of thousands

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Already has a bot flag (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: Using the AmputatorBot API, replaces AMP links with canonical equivalents. This task runs on all pages with citation templates which have URL parameters (e.g. {{cite news}}, {{cite web}}, etc).

Discussion

Approved for trial (50 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. Primefac (talk) 10:27, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting that I'm working on this but it may take some time. EpicPupper (talk) 23:01, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Been a bit busy IRL, but will get to this soon. Frostly (talk) 20:33, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
soon — Frostly (talk) 20:33, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

{{Operator assistance needed}} It has been more than a month since the last post, is this trial still ongoing? Primefac (talk) 13:26, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Primefac, my apologies, this flew off my radar. I'll work on setting up the bot on Toolforge this month and should have the results soon. — Frostly (talk) 06:13, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've made progress on uploading to Toolforge; just fixing a few bugs. — Frostly (talk) 03:36, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's been a few issues with the API that have been difficult to tackle; I think pivoting to self-hosting the API backend on Toolforge is a good solution (working on that this month). — Frostly (talk) 22:41, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Finishing up final revisions to the code! — Frostly (talk) 18:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
about time! Hehe —usernamekiran (talk) 16:59, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Frostly that is awesome! I actually was about to start this process (Wikipedia:Bot_requests#de-AMP_bot) and I am glad you already did. And it seems you are almost done. Is there a way I can find the source code or what any lingering issues there might be? Also, did you end up using the AmputatorBot API, another API, or your own implementation? Osalbahr (talk) 00:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bots that have completed the trial period

The following discussion is an archived debate. Please do not modify it. To request review of this BRFA, please start a new section at Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard. The result of the discussion was  Approved.

Qwerfjkl (bot) 30

Operator: Qwerfjkl (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 20:51, Wednesday, June 5, 2024 (UTC)

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic

Programming language(s): Python

Source code available: PAWS

Function overview: Remove deprecated parameters from {{Talk header}}

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Template talk:Talk header#how and when to drop the bot notice params

Edit period(s): one time run

Estimated number of pages affected: <26,387

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): No

Already has a bot flag (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: The bot will remove all instances of the parameters |archive_bot=, |archive_age=, |archive_units=, |minthreadsleft= from all occurences of {{Talk header}}.

The search may contain some false positives; the bot will skip those where it doesn't make any changes, of course.

Discussion

Approved for trial (100 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. Consensus appears to exist for this, and the task is straightforward. – SD0001 (talk) 04:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
SD0001, Trial complete. See these 100 contributions. I did around a third on the user talk namespace because that's probably going to be the most contentious area; only something like 300 user talk pages actually need fixing. — Qwerfjkltalk 13:59, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Noticed an issue, possibly related to leading blanks; see here. Mathglot (talk) 03:27, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mathglot, ah, I didn't realise any of the parameters that needed removing had aliases. Any others I need to watch out for? — Qwerfjkltalk 07:11, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Checking... Mathglot (talk) 18:25, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per this diff, all the params that start with the string archive_ have an alias without the prefix; thus the alias of |archive_bot= is |bot=, and so on. Param |minthreadsleft= has no alias. Here are some examples. Mathglot (talk) 02:06, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. @SD0001, more like 30,000 pages now. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:35, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Be aware that {{Archives}} is a different template that also has those same four params (well, the three aliases plus minthreads); see Template:Archives#Alphabetically. So it's more like 25k excluding those, which presumably the bot code will do. Mathglot (talk) 14:14, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, the 25k estimate is too hig, also, as that search is picking up plenty of articles like Talk:Ronald Reagan which have the talk header but no params at all. This one gives 11.5k, so maybe that's closer? Mathglot (talk) 15:28, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Or even less. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:26, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Approved for extended trial (100 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. Let's make sure the parameter alts are working as intended. Primefac (talk) 15:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Primefac, Trial complete. See the latest 100 of these edits or these 110 contributions with a few intervening edits (because the edit summary search tool wasn't working for me). — Qwerfjkltalk 19:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Approved. If there are any minor updates or tweaks that are needed, feel free to make them. Primefac (talk) 18:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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PrimeBOT 39

Operator: Primefac (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 12:48, Thursday, May 11, 2023 (UTC)

Function overview: Convert template use following update

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: Automatic

Programming language(s): AWB

Source code available: WP:AWB

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates § Request for a template

Edit period(s): OTR

Estimated number of pages affected:

Namespace(s): 783

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: {{Wikisource author}} recently was updated to allow for a |lang= parameter to link directly to non-English versions of wikisource for an author. A similar template, {{Wikisourcelang}}, links to a generic search on said language wiki for said author. This task will change {{Wikisourcelang|<lang>|otherstuff}} into a {{Wikisource author|lang=<lang>|otherstuff}} call.

Discussion

This seems pretty straightforward. Let's go to trial.
Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:38, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Trial complete. Edits. As a note, I did not run genfixes just to make the proposed change more obvious, but if this task does proceed I will be running genfixes alongside them.
Piotrus, I think this request is a little more convoluted than initially requested. Languages such as de do not use an "author" prefix (see e.g. Adolph Friedrich Johann Riedel and his corresponding page on de Wikisource), but I can't figure out which languages it holds to. I am not necessarily seeing a specific pattern between what languages do and do not. My thoughts are of two possibilities - run this task only for languages where the proposed change has the intended effect, or just scrap this BRFA and do these changes manually. Primefac (talk) 12:52, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Primefac I think we can run it for some languages that we can determine now, it shouldn't be that hard as long as it is consistent for each language (ex. German never uses, Polish always uses it, etc.). We could create a list for all languages that wikisource exists on, or just run it for now for some editions that are the biggest (ex. the ones with interwikis here). I did some checks and it seems it's pretty consisten - just a wikisource naming convention. Note that depending on the language, the "author" prefix is different - Polish is "autor". Swedish is "Författare", etc. In the end, what we need to fix is not the outgoing links but the text on our side. Consider this case, similar to the German one you quote, where we improved the language or our template but messed the link: before, diff, after. Since the links work, can we just figure out the way to change the wording in the template but retain the same link as before? The older template was able to do it, somehow, seems we are introducing a new error somehow? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:48, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If you wouldn't mind making a list of which languages use the Author (in whatever language) prefix, I can hard-code their use into the template so that there isn't any issue.
This wasn't a problem before because {{wikisource author}} only linked to to the English version so no translation or odd coding was necessary. As mentioned in the original discussion, {{wikisource lang}} just links to a general search (which does sometimes turn up the author page directly) and thus does not require the "Author:" prefix. Primefac (talk) 08:06, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 On hold. Just for now, while we deal with actual template issues. Primefac (talk) 08:31, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Primefac See talk, is this helpful? Those are most larger Wiki source projects, should be enough to get most of our stuff sorted out. We can take a look at what, if anything, is left after dealing with those languages? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:06, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Should do, thanks for that. Going to keep this on hold for a bit longer, there's a TFD for merging all of these together and I might be able to enact these proposed changes during the merge process. Primefac (talk) 08:13, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Primefac Just checking the status of this? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:54, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Somewhat stalled, been rather busy myself and it doesn't look like anyone has started work on the template merger. I think I might have cleared my on-wiki plate somewhat (touch wood) so I'll see about prioritising the merger. Primefac (talk) 10:51, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Primefac: any update on this? If it's a bit of a medium-term item, happy to mark this BRFA as withdrawn for the time being? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 10:52, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, since the related templates have gone through TFD, this specific task is no longer needed as any further cleanup can be handled by the already-approved Task 24.
Withdrawn by operator. Primefac (talk) 12:18, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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