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    March 11

    Script conks out on every preview

    Hi,

    Every time I try to edit the article eye music, it chugs away and gives me an error message. If If I press "Continue with script" I just loop, if I stop script I end up with blank edit section.

    What is interesting I can edit everything before the current version. I'd be willing to bet that the problem has something to do with the image file I copied from another entry with a whole bunch of errors I was about to fix: [[Image:solitude.png|thumb|600px|center|Hans-Christoph Steiner's score for Solitude...]].

    Here it works, probably because it doesn't have the messed up external link which can be seen in the entry. Or I might be wrong entirely about placing the blame.

    In any case, can someone give eye music a good talking to?

    Best, Shlishke (talk) 00:19, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Edit count stat tool

    Is anyone else having a problem with http://vs.aka-online.de/wppagehiststat/ today?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 00:22, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Just attempted. Got garbage code. Yep, it's down.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:26, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, its down. - Milk's Favorite Cookie 00:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The tool's creator has already been informed on his talk page (German Wikipedia) of the problem.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:30, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It was working for a few hours and is down again.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 23:25, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Need help on a table

    OK, so it's just a silly little thing in my userspace. But I'm having trouble with the coding used at User:Dulcem/Hi, Mom!. Specifically, the gallery about a quarter down the page should be five images across (and be centered if at all possible), but for some reason only four will show up. Also, the black bar under the gallery should preferably go all the way to the blue border (as the upper black bar does), but it stops short. Any help would be appreciated (feel free to edit the page). Thanks! — Dulcem (talk) 00:52, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I've fixed the gallery for you - you can specify the number of images in a row by adding perrow="5" to the first <gallery tag. As for centering, I had to give up and just use <center></center> as it apparently doesn't like "align" like everything else does. I'm working on the black line now, but it might take a little longer since you're using all these div tags.... grrr... Hersfold (t/a/c) 01:30, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks a bunch! As you can see from my disclaimer, I've swiped design elements from other people's pages if that helps you any. My basic user page has plenty of black lines that go all the way to the edge, so you can cannibalize from it if you need to. — Dulcem (talk) 01:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't have the faintest idea. I think it has something to do with the way you're overlapping all those div's, but I can't figure out why or how to fix it - every time I try, the line stays the same and something else blows up. They all seem to close right, but I think it's the order you're closing them in that's causing the issue. Your user page is kind of the same, but since it's got less text blocks, there's less of the really weird overlapping that I swear is causing the problem on your gallery page. Unfortunately, I really don't know how to fix it. Sorry. :-( Hersfold (t/a/c) 01:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, well. Thanks for trying! I guess this is what happens when someone who has no idea what he's doing (me) tries to play with templates and tables. :) — Dulcem (talk) 01:56, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Citations of Shakespeare

    I'd like to know what the preferred style is for citing Shakespeare's works in Wikipedia articles. I've noticed some instances where people list the name of a play, followed by something like "2.1.4". I gather that's Act,Scene,Line(?). Is that sufficient, or should one refer to some canonical edition? LuckyThracian (Talk) 03:02, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    It looks like the Shakespeare Wikiproject is developing a template to standardise it, including the version (First Folio, etc.). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 03:37, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    (Belated) thankyou, ConMan. LuckyThracian (Talk) 01:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Recent changes and large size changes

    I can see that Recent changes flags large negative article size changes in red. Does it also flag large positive changes? For example, the last change by 118.67.216.56 in the history at Gallipoli. Maybe that one should use red *and* <blink>? Hmmm, how about a 'large' font size?  :-) Shenme (talk) 05:05, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, large changes in either direction are highlighted in bold. You're welcome to suggest further enhancement at Bugzilla, however I am highly doubtful that you'll ever see anything blinking there. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Removing content from user talk pages.

    Is it proper to remove some entries from my talk page?
    The first is not constructive.

    The second is uncivil, but does raise an issue.

    (I would have discussed and denied conflict of interest if addressed civilly.)

    My reading on the issue left me with the impression it would be justifiable, but poor form in the second case.

    Novangelis (talk) 06:08, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Per WP:TALK, you may remove messages from your own talk page. You may also archive the messages. Wisdom89 (T / C) 06:21, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Why could I not open the Japanese Wiki

    By google, I could find the link in Wiki to Japanese words I want to see, but when I click it, I always failed to open it. And I have tried to open the Wiki Japanese directly by Wiki's link, but also failed. Exactly, except for Wiki English, every other language, like Korean, Thai, and Chinese, I have been tried could not be opened finally.

    I am a user in China. I don'tkonw whthether it is the reason that I could not open these language editions of Wiki. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lingzhongren (talk • contribs) 06:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Unfortunately, you're probably being affected by the Firewall that China uses to censor the Internet. I'm kinda surprised you could get to the English Wikipedia at all. -- Kesh (talk) 07:59, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    For more information on the Great Firewall of china, see Golden Shield Project. If you use Tor (anonymity network), you might be able to get around those restrictions and access the articles you're interested in. — Ksero (talk | contribs) 08:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Please note, however, that we automatically block all IP addresses that come from Tor for security reasons. While you will be able to read articles, you will not be able to edit them. Sorry to have to tell you that. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:22, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Wasn't there a private proxy for Chinese users? Something from User:ST47 maybe? Snowolf How can I help? 22:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Holman Fenwick & Willan

    The name of the firm needs to change - delete the ampersand! Many thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 23Azalea (talk • contribs) 09:25, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    What is your source? - Kittybrewster ☎ 09:39, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The sources I found, including the official website, include & in Holman Fenwick & Willan, so I changed the article text instead to readd &. I also made other changes, including removing advertisement. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:12, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    New Users

    Resolved

    Is there a list of newly created user accounts? - Kittybrewster ☎ 09:35, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    There's this... Nick (talk) 09:43, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Halo 'o Vave

    Hala 'o Vave on userpage User:Anacrossan/Sandbox.

    I need an assessment of the article, whether it can be moved out of my userpage sandbox, to the normal page? Thank you.Anacrossan (talk) 10:10, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Anacrossan, I've looked and I would say no, what's in your sandbox isn't even close to acceptable. You need to establish notability, provide references, make some case that the article has a reason to survive if you move it into the mainspace. Take a look at some existing articles in the same topic area and try to follow what they do. Regards. Franamax (talk) 10:37, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The first thing you need to do is establish why this topic is notable. Why does it belong in an encyclopedia? Next, you have to show why someone other than you thinks it's important. For Wikipedia, you need to have a reference to a reliable source, a book, newspaper article, something that anyone else can go look at to be sure you're telling the truth. Have a look at WP:N, WP:V, WP:RS and WP:OR to get a feel for what's required. Hope you can make it work, could be an interesting article! Franamax (talk) 10:46, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Moving images from en to commons

    I'd like to use the following three images in other wikis: Image:Pierre-Gilles_Rice_University.jpg, Image:Heckman.jpg and Image:Elfriede_jelinek_2004_small.jpg. Is there an easy way to transfer them to commons? (Instead of downloading them from here and uploading in commons again. Something like the ordinary "move" for images.) --Ephraim33 (talk) 14:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Use commons helper and check the 'direct upload' box and a bot will do it for you. Nanonic (talk) 14:18, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    "Even when we were no more, sun and moon would be there."

    Is it a correct sentence/expression? Particularly the use of 'were', is it correct grammatically? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.96.6.244 (talk) 14:35, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Actually, this page is for requesting assistance in how to use Wikipedia. You ought to ask your question on the Reference Desk, in this case Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language.--217.44.171.224 (talk) 14:59, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    In the dialect I speak, it would be correct if it said "if" instead of "when". It may be correct as it is in some other dialects. --Coppertwig (talk) 03:21, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Edits are not visible

    I am a new member and I made some edits to the USUHS page. The instructions for editing say that changes should be immediately viewable but its 9 hours later and the edits are not visible. What do I need to do to make edits visible to the public or did I do something wrong that caused them to blocked. I've searched the FAQs and instructions, and while I'm sure the answer to this question is there, I can't seem to find it. I have seen a lot of information about being blocked or vandalism and I hope my edits aren't being classified as such.

    Thanks, Jeff —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbh5350 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You have 4 registered edits to Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences: [1]. All edits immediately become visible, including these 4. If you don't see them then you probably have to bypass your cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If you ever get this problem again, there are at least two ways you can check to see whether Wikipedia actually got your edits. See: Help:History and Help:Contributions. --Teratornis (talk) 17:17, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Sortable table problem

    Hi, how do I get the following table to resort properly (e.g. when I click a button, it groups the lines and summaries. Thanks, –thedemonhog talk • edits 15:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Name Actor or actress Starring seasons Episode count
    Jack Shephard Matthew Fox 1, 2, 3, 4 71
    Blah blah summary.
    Kate Austen Evangeline Lilly 1, 2, 3, 4 70
    Yada yada yada.
    Hugo "Hurley" Reyes Jorge Garcia 1, 2, 3, 4 66
    I am working on this in my sandbox.
    Sayid Jarrah Naveen Andrews 1, 2, 3, 4 61
    This is for Characters of Lost per the discussion at Talk:Characters of Lost#Too long.
    Avoid colspan.--Patrick (talk) 16:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    More or less. The colspan, and the use of cells that don't fit into the sorting scheme, is screwing up the script. Sortable tables should contain only the information which they are intended to sort. It will never work properly with blank lines or plot summaries intermingled like that. Sorry. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:19, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Freezing computer

    I have been on several different computers at the same library today. I can sort of understand when ads are a problem, but I can't understand why this would happen to Wikipedia.

    It doesn't last too long, or too many times, but when that square in the upper right corner of the page, between the underscore and the X, turns dark, and especially when there is a white square in the upper left corner, this is a scary situation. Sometimes when this happens the computer just shuts down.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 17:57, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Browsers can become unresponsive due to javascript that is taking a while to run - there are a few scripts normally used on wikipedia that don't scale well - there's a script that runs on the history view to make things look nice, that takes too long when you're in a view with e.g. 500 entries - and on actual articles there's a script that runs to let you sort tables by clicking on the little arrow, and that takes a while to set up if there are really large tables. —Random832 18:37, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    contributing

    how do i edit a page at wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.244.61.5 (talk) 18:54, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Click on the edit tab at the top of any page. See: Wikipedia:How to edit a page for more info and Welcome! GtstrickyTalk or C 19:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    creating a page

    How do you create a page at wikipedia. I was reading the instructions and it said to click on the red dot (or something like that) but I couldn't find it. Do you have to create on account first and then log in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.244.61.5 (talk) 19:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
    Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
    If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. GtstrickyTalk or C 19:38, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Richard Leiterman

    Which stub template would be suitable to use for Richard Leiterman? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by DIPPY (talk • contribs) 19:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I would say {{Canada-film-bio-stub}}. AecisBrievenbus 19:54, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Entering Book Information

    I want to create a page for an out of print book series. Is it a copyright violation to use the plot summary from the back of each book that tells the reader what the book is about without giving too much away? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faaya (talk • contribs) 19:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't think it would be right to use those plot summaries. Wikipedia:Copyrights says:

    If you contribute material to Wikipedia, you thereby license it to the public

    under the GFDL (with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts). In order to contribute, you must be in a position to grant this license, which means that either

    • you hold the copyright to the material, for instance because you produced it yourself, or
    • you acquired the material from a source that allows the licensing under GFDL, for instance because the material is in the public domain or is itself published under GFDL.

    If it's an old book series you're talking about, the copyright might have expired - see Public domain#United States law (the laws of the United States apply since the servers of the English-language Wikipedia are located there). — Ksero (talk | contribs) 20:00, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing an article and adding footnote

    Edited the article on Hannibal Hamlin (US VP from Maine). Added some text with a footnote to a free web page that shows Hamlin's family tree in some detail. When saved, the footnote number (1) was there but not the footnote itself with the link. How is this done correctly? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pres-scholar (talk • contribs) 20:41, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    It needed a reference section to work right. I put it in. Cheers GtstrickyTalk or C 20:55, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    ?

    20:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC)24.1.15.31 (talk)BYTTWERE ANY SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERIES MADE IN CONJUNCTION OF THE WAR IN IRAQ ?

    This Help desk is for asking questions about the use of Wikipedia. The reference desk is probably more suited to your query. Incidentally, typing all in capital letters is considered poor etiquette, as it is often seen as shouting. Thank you, Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:11, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    inclusion of college technical reports

    I teach a course to 3rd year mechanical engineers on design for the environment. Students work in groups of four on a term-long project comparing three technologies that accomplish a similar purspose based on the relative merits in these areas: a) technical performance b) environmental life cycle analysis c) cost analysis and d) societal analysis.

    On the one hand it could be useful to have this content available on Wikipedia because of the synthesis work involved (perhaps linked to the "Life cycle assessment" page on Wikipedia), but on the other, since each report is a comparison of three alternatives, it doesn't seem to be a clear "fit" for a regular article. Any thoughts or suggestions will be much appreciated. --SRego (talk) 21:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Are you talking about having the students upload and collaborate on this work on Wikipedia itself? If so, please read WP:SYN. In short, we don't accept original research on Wikipedia.
    What you probably want to do is run a copy of the MediaWiki software on your school's servers. You can then control access to the documents and create whatever you'd like on there. -- Kesh (talk) 21:59, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    This looks like a good match for Wikiversity, which is a Wikipedia sister project. -Arch dude (talk) 02:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    We also have a Wikiversity article which provides an overview. You might also see the following pages:
    --Teratornis (talk) 05:14, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Equation numbering

    Hi

    Does anyone know how to get right-justified equation numbering to be correctly vertically aligned? This is what I have been trying:

    (1)

    but you can see that the "(1)" is not properly aligned with the equation, leading to unsightly spacing. I suppose I could use a table, but it seems like an awful lot of hassle for something that ought to be simple. Matt 22:03, 11 March 2008 (UTC).

    Have you tried putting the equation in an \array, and getting the equation number in that? It shouldn't be too hard to get the equation numbers aligned properly that way. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    i.e.:
    I'm sure there's better ways than (1) and (2) as well, but I don't know of them. Proper LaTeX has eqnarray but Wikipedia doesn't use the full gamut and shortcuts some things. x42bn6 Talk Mess 23:43, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the suggestions. Ideally I want the numbers of various different equations separated by pieces of text to line up horizontally, which I think I can't do with the "array" method? Anyway, I've gone with tables for now... Matt 01:30, 12 March 2008 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.130.93 (talk)

    Is it possible to restore a userpage/talk page after a username change?

    I had my name changed after I was blocked for vandalizing the Justine Ezarik article (let he who is without sin cast the first stone) [2]. I would like to keep this user name, but if it's possible to restore my old user and talk pages restore on my current user account. Who would I need to contact? -- Scarpy (talk) 22:50, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I'll take this one. BencherliteTalk 23:00, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Gadgets

    On Special:Preferences, there is a tab labeled "Gadgets". It appears that checking one of the boxes listed will install a "default version" of the associated user script. My questions are:

    a) What would happen if I checked a box for a user script that I already have installed?
    b) Aside from involving less clicking/typing, how is checking a box different from installing a script manually?

    - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 23:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Not completely sure about the first one, but it doesn't seem to have any effect. In the case of the second, the only way to avail yourself of the full range of customizations in scripts like Twinkle is to install them manually. Carom (talk) 23:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    1. Some scripts have checks to avoid installing it twice. If a script doesn't have such checks, it will almost always still work without any issues. In a rare couple of cases some errors might occur in certain very specific situations. The safest is always to either import everything yourself or to only use gadgets.
    2. Not much. Its easier to install, and often requires less bypassing of your cache or of that of wikimedia servers to get it actually running. monobook.js can be troublesome on that front sometimes. It's mostly something intended for the users who are less experienced with configuring their monobook.js
    --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 23:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    With Twinkle and Friendly, if you select them as gadgets while you have them installed you'll get two sets of each extra tab. Think outside the box 11:55, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the idea behind it is to try to make the life easier for people not familiar with the inner workings on Wikipedia. While I have no idea of the effects of overlapping scripts between gadgets and monobook (as I never used the former), I'd suggest you keep everything on the monobook. Snowolf How can I help? 22:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    March 12

    Article Format

    This is not a big deal (as far as I know), but what is causing two "[Edit]" links to appear side-by-side in Autun#Ecclesiastical history? Wanderer57 (talk) 02:37, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't see a problem in Internet Explorer 7.0. This sounds like something depending on browser and window width, caused by a box and images overlapping section headings. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    For me it's 4 "Edit" at the end of the "Other notable connections" line. Firefox, 1600x1200 Chandlertalk 02:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The edits from the first three sections are getting bumped down by the images. I see it too. GtstrickyTalk or C 02:48, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The problem has vanished. Thank you. Was that accomplished by moving the images around, or was some other trick involved? Wanderer57 (talk) 03:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    See also WP:BUNCH for the description and explanation of this common problem --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:35, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Move Tab is missing

    I found an article about a person, but the person's name is misspelled. The Help page says that there is a Move tab at the top of the page which can be used to rename a page, but there is no Move tab at thetop of the page. I'm stuck. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RobertCarver (talk • contribs) 04:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You can only move pages when your account is at least four days old, and then the move tab appears automatically at the top. If you say the names then we can evaluate the wanted move. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Mark A. Moore

    I came across this article and wanting to know if I'm the only one that thinks it's way too long and includes alot of non-notable information? If it looks fine to others, then I won't mess with it. I came across the article while reading a "See also" section and it mentioned the article and next to it said "Bentonville Battle Maps." I don't know if it's self-promotion or a legitimate WP:BIO article that meets WP:NOTE. There's just so much stuff on the page. I guess my question is should some of the lists be reduced or removed? AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 07:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    That looks like one hell of a vanity page. I agree, most of that article should be cut out, and the rest needs rewritten badly. It fails WP:BIO, as it's not about the person, but about his writing career. -- Kesh (talk) 10:47, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, I nominated it for deletion. Thanks. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 10:57, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Part 145 Line Maintenance

    Can I get a list of all European Part 145 Line Maintenance Organisations from within Wikipedia and if so where? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.242.73 (talk) 11:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't think so but please see European Aviation Safety Agency.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:08, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I need some one who operates bots on OS X

    Resolved
     – resolved on the Bot owner's noticeboard

    I use OS X Tiger and Im trying to run bots for the Telugu Wikipedia. I downloaded the python framework from this page. and I created the user-config.py file which reads

    mylang='te'
    family='wikipedia'
    usernames['wikipedia']['te']=u'Sai2020'

    Sai2020 is my username. I open Terminal and type in python login.py I get the error python: can't open file 'login.py'

    Can someone help me please Σαι ( Talk) 12:06, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You might be able to get a better response at the Bot owner's noticeboard - not everyone who comes by here operates a bot or would necessarily know what you're doing. Hersfold (t/a/c) 12:10, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks I'll do that Σαι ( Talk) 12:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    what is out put of that prog. and why why??

    void main() { int i=10,j=12; printf("%d,%d,%d,%d,%d,%d,%d,%d,%d,%d,%d,%d"); getch(); }

    This is for asking questions about Wikipedia. You should ask computer questions on the computer section of WP:RD. However, this looks very much like homework. So, I strongly suggest compiling it and running it before asking someone else to do so. -- kainaw™ 13:06, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Linking articles

    I added a name to the article on Sarod. I'dlike to know how I may link that name - the name odfa senior player to an article about him. It so happens that there exists a Wiki article which also has to be updated. How do I link them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.226.77.33 (talk) 13:58, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You can create a link by putting two square brackets around the word. For example, [[Example]] creates the following: Example. —PurpleRAIN 14:19, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    See more at Help:Link. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    MAPs

    How to view my CITY or my HOUSE from WIKIPEDIA —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vineela1999 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You might be looking for Google Earth GtstrickyTalk or C 14:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    corporation making it's own article

    Panrimo. This article needs to be deleted. It was made by a user also named Panrimo. Obvious self promotion. gotta go. vandalism high. JOIN THE WP:CVU!!!--AtTheAbyss (talk) 14:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    It has been taken care of. GtstrickyTalk or C 14:43, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Featured Article

    Are the Featured Articles closed for editing, meaning they've been protected against further editing or vandalism? How many Featured Articles are closed and protected against any future contribution? All, some or none of them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.47.89.57 (talk) 16:01, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't know for certain, but you can check through Category:Protected and Category:Semi-protected (and their sub-categories) for the article you're looking for. Protected pages will usually display a large ambox such as {{pp-protected}} or a small padlock icon in the corner. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Featured Articles are meant to represent the best that Wikipedia has to offer, and since one of the things Wikipedia offers is the ability to edit ... no they aren't "frozen" once they become featured. However, since people obviously put a lot of work in getting them to that state, edits may be more heavily scrutinised in order to make sure that it stays at a featured level. In particular, they should only be protected if there is an actual reason to do so, such as vandalism from multiple accounts. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:09, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I know that Association football is semi-protected as are some the WP:FOOTY FAs but this is only because they are vandalised incredibly regularly when unprotected. As an FA editor, I find it quite helpful when FAs are improved, though by their nature, usually there isn't that much to be done to them. If you want to see the version that was featured go to the talk page of the article and click the date in the {{Articlehistory}} template. As far as I know there are no fully protected FAs as that would be a grounds for removal per the featured article criteria (stability). Woody (talk) 22:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    vandalism?

    It looks like this page has been vandalized.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buganda

    There are at least fifty eight recognised for being orgasmic clans within the queer monger circle of the Kingdom of Buganda,... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.153.36.171 (talk) 16:07, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed. Thanks for bring this to our attention. In future, you may want to try fixing vandalism yourself. Bovlb (talk) 16:48, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    removing a link

    Hi there is a page on wikipedia that links to my website. How can I get this link removed? thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by De la fere (talk • contribs) 16:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Could you be more specific, please? What is the page, and what is the website? Bovlb (talk) 16:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I was wondering if there was a standard format for doing this? do I need to report it officially, giving all names etc and does wikipedia then deal with it? or can I just do it myself without any fuss? —Preceding unsigned comment added by De la fere (talk • contribs) 17:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    There is no official reporting. You can do it yourself. But if it is an appropriate link, someone could put it back in. Having a link to your site doesn't require your approval. —teb728 t c 18:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    And you have a conflict of interest regarding links to your site so it's recommended to make a suggestion on the talk page instead, by clicking the "discussion" tab. See also Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem. But having a link to your site against your will is not by itself considered a problem by Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    NYSE

    I was previously looking for information about rich stocks within the NYSE. I found this article that had a list that had all the companies that take in over $100 mill. or $100 bill. in revenue. I forget what the title of the article was and now I can't find it at all. Des anyone happen to know what I'm talking about? ~ Bella Swan 16:17, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Perhaps List of companies by revenue? Bovlb (talk) 16:52, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If that's not what you're looking for, the reference desk might be able to help you. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:52, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    That was the article I was looking for, thanks so much! :) ~ Bella Swan 20:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Check also, if it can be of any interest to you, Forbes Global 2000 and Forbes 500 (the latter has been discontinued and its last edition is of 2003). Snowolf How can I help? 22:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I applaud what you are doing about not removing the pictures

    I wanted to write and applaud you for what you are doing about NOT removing the pictures about Mohammud. I am glad that someone, even in this small way, is making a stand against people that are trying to censor a tool that can and should be used by anyone. If I find something offensive, I don't watch it, don't read it, or have anything to do with it. I don't start a petition to get it removed. Someone needed to stand up to bullies and I stand next to you, even metaphorically on this. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.235.207.216 (talk) 16:53, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    We at Wikipedia appreciate your kind comments. ::Manors:: talk to me 18:15, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Karen R. Hitchcock - Somebody keeps reverting the article

    Resolved

    Hi, I have edited the Karen R. Hitchcock Wikipedia entry, specifically the At Queen's section. Somebody keeps undoing my edits. I believe I have referenced the information. The source is credible (the established school newspaper). It is frustrating to keep undoing this person's edits, especially since he or she is not a registered user, just an ip address. Help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by White sheik (talk • contribs) 13:55, 12 March 2008

    I would drop a message on the talk page of the anon user asking why it's being reverted. It is likely that the user is undoing the edit, not because of the content per se, but how it sounds, or perhaps the formatting for the WP:CITE is improper. Instead of fixing, sometimes editors just revert. Wisdom89 (T / C) 17:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    peristent anon vandal

    Resolved

    There is an anonymous user who is persistently, sometimes several times a day for the last month, inserting bogus, (or at least highly speculative and unsourced) information in this page: List_of_Primeval_episodes

    His IP changes, but is always in 79.215.* (t-dialin.net, Germany). His changes are always reverted, but there is collateral damage, real corrections are often also reverted in the process. I wrote comments in the source page to try to engage him on the Discussion page, but now he's vandalising that too. Barsoomian (talk) 18:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Bear in mind that the addition of unsourced content isn't necessarily vandalism. However, blatant hoaxes and misinformation is. In this case, I would warn the user about the addition of unsourced material without the proper citations. If it continues relentlessly, you can start a report for WP:3RR or WP:AIV. The latter only if it can be seen that the anon is adding deliberate misinformation to disrupt the integrity/quality of the article. Wisdom89 (T / C) 18:02, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Name mispelled

    Resolved

    I just recently viewed a page created for my grandfather-John H. Shaffer, the page has his name spelled John H. Schaffer- he passed away about 11 years ago and the mispelling of his name bothers me. Please correct it- Ive tried to edit the page with no success. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnshaffer3 (talk • contribs) 18:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I have moved the article so John H. Schaffer now redirects to John H. Shaffer. Accounts must be at least 4 days old to move (same as rename) articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Problem with Text Header

    Resolved

    Could anyone help me out here, I'm wanting this coding to replace the standard header on my userpage & subpages, it did work at first but for some reason the normal header text like Wikipedia:Help desk has re-appeared and I'm wanting it replacing with this coding below permanently on Terra's Userpage Template & Terra's Global-Borders, any help will be appreciated Terra What do you want? 19:23, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    <center> <div style="font-family: Castellar, sans-serif; font-size: larger; text-align: center;"> <div style="position: relative; border: 1px solid purple; border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0px; background: purple;" class="boilerplate metadata plainlinks"></div></div><div id="title-override" class="topicon" style="font-family: Castellar, sans-serif; float: left; position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0px; width: 98%; padding-top: 5px; display:none"><div style="background: {{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|{{FULLPAGENAME}}|white|#F8FCFF}}; font-size: 188%; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.1em; position:relative; left:0.5em; margin-top:-0.2em;">Terra</div></div> </div></div>

    It seems to be working now. Terra What do you want? 19:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Is there a better way to deal with on going vandalism?

    Resolved

    This is relate to article Gene Green in specific, but relates to many other articles as well. This article is vandalized on a daily basis by various IP users that keep reinserting the same unreferenced information see [3] Unreferenced and unsupported statements such as "in 2008, (name of individual removed) was accused of receiving payoffs from .... just can not be allowed. Yet under current policy there appears to be nothing that can be done other than keeping the page on one's watch list and keep reverting the same edit over and over again. The major problem with that is the fact that the negative information ends up being posted for far too many hours. The page can not be semi protected due to the fact that the valdalism happens only 1-3 times a day. We did get one IP address blocked for 72 hours, but the result was the edits now come for different IP addresses making blocking useless. Note a request for page protection was made previously and the result was the block mentioned above. Having this type of negative information on Wikipedia regarding a current elected official keep showing up just is unacceptable.

    So to repeat the question, is there anything that can be done to limit or stop this type of vandalism? Dbiel (Talk) 19:37, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I have protected the page for two weeks now, given that it relates to WP:BLP and given the fact that the IP has started to shift. Woody (talk) 19:42, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    The St. Patrick page

    In the St. Patrick page there is an inappropriate comment in the introduction that shouldn't be there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.113.73.72 (talk) 23:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Saint Patrick was vandalized and reverted a few hours ago. If you still see an inappropriate comment then try to bypass your cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    March 13

    Double redirect

    In the instructions for moving a page, it says to avoid "double redirects". I couldn't tell exactly what a double redirect is.

    • Article links to a redirect page and that page links to another article - OK, right?
    • A redirect page links to another redirect page - not OK, right? Bubba73 (talk), 03:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, that's correct. See Wikipedia:Double redirects. --Silver Edge (talk) 04:03, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Images not working properly

    Hello, When I visit the wikipedia homepage as well as when I visit the individual pages, none of the images appear on my screen. There are simply blank spaces where I know there to be images. If I click on these spaces it takes me to the image citing page where it is still not visible unless I click it again to view the image by itself. This is extremely annoying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tucansam909 (talk • contribs) 04:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Check your browser privacy options, and attempt to purge your cache. Wisdom89 (T / C) 04:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Also check to see if you have advertisement-blocking options turned on in your browser, or as an external application. Because of the way the images are stored, they sometimes end up with /ad/ in their address, which gets interpreted as an advertisement. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Title change

    How do I go about changing the title of an Article that is spelt incorrectly?Jagra (talk) 04:15, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    By conducting a page move: WP:MOVE. Wisdom89 (T / C) 04:22, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    User List

    Is is possible to display the list of user names from Special Pages to show the names in chronological order of registration? Retarius | Talk 04:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    That's the default way it is listed. Wisdom89 (T / C) 04:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    [4]. Wisdom89 (T / C) 04:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Unfortunately, the creation log doesn't go back all that far (somewhere in 2006). I don't think there's any way of determining when an old user signed up at all, let alone listing them in that order. Algebraist 15:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    There is a toolserver tool that tries to guess the date by comparing first edits of the 2-3 users before and after the user in question. It is however resource intensive. However, apart from the first few thousands users (no idea about the exact number) that had their ID changed due to DB problems, a query can retrieve the list you're searching for. I won't run such query however, as it would return a huge list (we've got 6,658,999 users :) ) and I don't see its purpose. If you would be interested in a more limited query, you can file a request at tswiki:Query service. Snowolf How can I help? 22:48, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you all. I'd noticed that each user seems to be allocated a number when they register and I wondered whether you could show them all in order of registration, just to see who the veterans are and whether they're still with us. Thanks for the tip, Snowolf, I'll refrain from "pulling over" the server! Retarius | Talk 03:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Welcome message

    When I encounter a new user whose very first edits are silliness or vandalism, I want to leave a Welcome message, but I don't want it to say "Thank you for your contributions." I think that is a silly thing to say in a case where I have just reverted their contributions.

    I'm looking for a template that is similar to {{welcome}} or {{subst:W-basic}} but without that one sentence.

    I tried to edit a template to get rid of that sentence, but run into coded parameters in the template that I can't cope with.

    Is there someone who knows how to code templates who might help on this or is there another way around this? Thanks, Wanderer57 (talk) 04:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    {{welcome}} is in: Category:Welcome templates. Check them out. Maybe {{Welcomevandal}} works. --Teratornis (talk) 05:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. The {{Welcome0}} template leaves out that sentence. Wanderer57 (talk) 07:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Michael Rogin

    You need to have a site about Michael Rogin. There is nothing anywhere on Wikipedia about him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.255.179.224 (talk) 05:32, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You may create it yourself then: WP:YFA and WP:ARTICLE. Wisdom89 (T / C) 05:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Thats fucking retarded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.255.179.224 (talk • contribs)

    Thanks for telling me. Now kindly read WP:CIVIL. Wisdom89 (T / C) 05:37, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Some editors are badly shaken by uncivil words directed towards them, and cannot focus on the source of the conflict itself. It may help to point out to them why unpleasant words were used, and acknowledge that while incivility is wrong, the ideas behind the comment may be valid.

    The offended person may realize that the words were not always meant literally, and could decide to forgive and forget them.

    .....I still think at the kind request your customers, you should do something about information that is not present on your website. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.255.179.224 (talk) 05:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    There are no customers on Wikipedia. Wikipedia articles are written by people who think that the article should be written. There is nobody here who has more responsibility to write an article that you do. —teb728 t c 07:10, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Hide boxes in articles

    Is it acceptable to use "hide" boxes or other types of drawer-type formats within articles in mainspace? Retarius | Talk 06:31, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    If you have a reason to, I don't see why not. George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp 17:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    ILGA World Conference 2008 Quebec City

    Resolved

    Please be advised that the 24th World Conference of ILGA, planned for Quebec City in May 2008 has been cancelled. We suggest that you remove reference to this event from your Website as well as the FLIKR Website. Otherwise you could make it clear that the Quebec ILGA Conference is cancelled. Please refer to the ILGA website for the official announcement. Thank you.

    Sincerely,

    Trevor Cook Executive Director, ILGA www.ilga.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.240.21.242 (talk) 08:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I've updated the article, however, we have no control over the content on other websites.Steve Crossin (talk) 09:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Broken reference

    Can anyone figure out why the second reference in here isn't displaying correctly? Grandmasterka 11:15, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed, there was an extra carriage return in the ref's title which was confusing the template. Nanonic (talk) 11:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. Grandmasterka 14:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    QUESTION ABOUT PAGE NOW MARKED AS ADVERTSDIMENT

    Dear Reader,

    I see that the entry "Universal Health Care Foundation of Connecticut" has now been marked as "written like an advertiswment." I'm not clear about why this happened. For example, the article appears to be well-sourced from third-parties to confirm the facts as stated. Is it possible to get some idea of which section or sections should be changed, and how?

    Thanks!

    Danielroberts (talk) 14:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    An editor feels that the tone of the article reads like an advertisement and doesn't conform to Wikipedia:Neutral point of view even though it may be well referenced. That page may help better explain.— Ѕandahl 14:49, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Also see WP:PEACOCK which explains what "promotional language" is, and why we don't use it on Wikipedia. Incidentally, I can't find an article with the title you gave: Universal Health Care Foundation of Connecticut. I tried: Search Wikipedia with Google for: Universal Health Care Foundation of Connecticut and that did not find the article either, but it did find a Google cached copy of an article that looks like someone spent a lot time editing it. Perhaps the next question will be: Why was my article deleted? --Teratornis (talk) 21:15, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    cherrytree

    Superscript texti want to do with you what cherrytree do in winter time

    Do you have a question about Wikipedia? --grawity talk / PGP 17:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Images

    Is it a copyright infringement if I upload a picture of, say, a famous pop start which I drew myself? Or of characters from a TV which I drew? In pencil, I might add. xxx User:Hyper Girl 16:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    It depends. I think you can draw real people (maybe) but not copyrighted cartoon characters. I'd be careful if I were you though. George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp 17:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    DynamicCategoryMap not showing

    I am trying to get the DynamicCategoryMap to work on my wiki and I have followed all the steps shown to me in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Dynamic_Category_Map However after I put the tags in my main page <DynamicCategoryMap> title=Please Help </DynamicCategoryMap>

    only the title would show on the page. I do have a list of categories. What could I have done wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.0.7 (talk) 16:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia is not the place to ask for help with that topic, try the Mediawiki help desk. George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp 17:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Try here: [5] George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp 17:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Page not edited

    Hi I recently edited the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirens_(band) as it is very out of date. However when the page hasnt been changed and my edited page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirens_%28band%29 I need this sorting asap as when I google it, the old page is displayed. Please advise how I correct this problem Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Euro Ann n Nicki (talk • contribs) 17:12, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Your edits were probably reverted per WP:NPOV, they certainly meet the criteria. George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp 17:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If you mean that Google itself shows older text from the article, that is because Google doesn't instantly update when you make a Wikipedia edit. Google only updates its searches every few days. The new text will be in the Wikipedia article when you click the link in Google. Franamax (talk) 17:49, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Its a problem with your browser caching pages. Also however, your edit was not suitable at all.--KerotanLeave Me a Message Have a nice day :) 18:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Black Rock Mountain (World of Warcraft)

    Why was this page deleted? I can't find any reasons nor any discussion page where a debate occured leading to deletion. Dlother (talk) 18:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    The page at Blackrock Mountain (World of Warcraft) was deleted under WP:CSD#R1, which states that any page that "Redirects to deleted pages and to nonexistent pages" may be deleted on sight without discussion. If the page originally redirected to an article, you may want to contact an administrator who can help direct you to the deletion log for that article. Hersfold (t/a/c) 19:16, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the swift reply. Forgive me for my ignorance of wikipedia policies. My question now is; If I were to create original content for that page and recreate it, would this be against any policy if done properly? To put it more direct; is there any reason why wikipedia would not allow a page on the World of Warcraft area known as Blackrock Mountain? Thanks again. Dlother (talk) 19:37, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If you create an article that shows why it is notable based on verifiable and reliable sources, then it could be allowed. You could try creating a page in your sandbox and ask some editors to take a look and give you an opinion. Franamax (talk) 20:13, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    (undent) If you are interested in World of Warcraft, I suggest checking out WoWWiki, in the unlikely event that you hadn't already. WoWWiki caters to WoW fans, unlike Wikipedia which has many policies that hamper the enthusiasts of many special interest topics, so you will probably find writing about WoW much more satisfying on WoWWiki. This is not to discourage you from trying to figure out how to edit on Wikipedia, but to point out that when you get tired of beating your head against the wall here, there is another wiki you might like better. --Teratornis (talk) 21:22, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Blackrock Mountain (World of Warcraft) was an unsourced stub before being redirected to Locations in the Warcraft Universe#Blackrock Mountain, a section which at the time contained:
    "A volcanic mountain, the tallest in the Burning Steppes. At its base was once Blackrock Spire, the Orcish capital in the First and Second Wars. After a titanic battle here during which Anduin Lothar, the greatest leader of the Alliance, was slain, the Horde was routed and pushed all the way back to the Dark Portal, which fell soon afterward. Today there is a civil war in the volcano between the black dragon Nefarian, with his army of dragonkin, Blackrock Orcs, and some rebel trolls and ogres who rule the upper half versus Ragnaros the Firelord, and his legion of fire elementals, Dark Iron Dwarfs, and War Golems, who control the lower half."
    After some moves that page ended at List of Warcraft locations which was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Warcraft locations. In view of this it seems inappropriate to make a new article about Blackrock Mountain. See also WP:GAMEGUIDE and WP:FICTION. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:36, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    search help

    Greetings, I'm searching for an answer to a question that came up in a family discussion.

    How many residents does it take to become a village, a town, a city? what are the minimum requirements to meet each level? Or, where can I find the data?

    thx 72.178.49.169 (talk) 19:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    This page is for help with using Wikipedia. You might want to try the Reference Desk instead. —PurpleRAIN 19:21, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    See: village, town, and city. The articles say these classifications are approximate. I.e., there are not any specific numbers that determine exactly when a permanent settlement changes from a "village" to a "town" and then to a "city." It would be strange if there were such exact numbers, because a permanent settlement with a population right on the dividing point could oscillate back and forth as small numbers of people entered or left. Imagine having to update all the maps each time one guy leaves Oklahoma City and it temporarily becomes "Oklahoma Town." --Teratornis (talk) 21:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    In England, a town has a charter (a village doesn't) and a city has a cathedral (a church with a cathedra). Ask at the reference desk next time. George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp 21:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    side bar edit buttons

    Many web sites use left, right, top and bottom sidebars to place stable edit buttons whereas with the Wikipedia the left side bar is not stationary and does not add the edit buttons when in edit mode. Move down a page and the buttons in the left sidebar move up so that the only way to access them is to first return to the top of the page. Same problem with the edit page buttons - they follow the page instead of remaining stationary in a left or right or top or bottom sidebar. Very annoying. I know this is suppose to have something to do with frames and that programming to accommodate frames is more difficult, but come on, its not like the Wikipedia is still in an infant stage where there is not time to make such improvements. Thanks. 71.100.165.232 (talk) 19:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    This might be a more appropriate place to discuss this issue: WP:VILLAGE. Wisdom89 (T / C) 19:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    If you Create an account I can help you with custom CSS to get this effect. —Random832 19:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm not sure though what you mean by "stable edit buttons" or "edit buttons when in edit mode" - can you provide an example of a website with the behavior you are talking about? —Random832 19:48, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I started building Internet pages in about 1995 using Microsoft Publisher. Under publisher the creation of various boxes was automatically converted to frames when printed pages were converted to web pages. However, Firefox can not display these pages although Internet Explorer can. I still use publisher even though Firefox users can not view the pages in hopes that one day Firefox will update so the pages can be properly decoded and displayed. I'll try to find other pages which Firefox can read that include this techniques of providing sidebars that do not move when the rest of the page or that is the content of other frames move. Here is one. 71.100.174.10 (talk) 22:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I already know how to make the sidebar not move in a way that will work on wikipedia, what I don't understand is what you mean by "edit buttons" - what buttons do you think should be in the sidebar that are not already? —Random832 14:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Youth on Wikipedia

    There used to be a group for youth who enjoy and collaborate on editing wikipedia. I remember hearing it was disbanded. Is there perhaps a new one, and if not can I start one? Arkkeeper (talk) 19:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I tried searching a little and I did not find whatever group you might refer to. Are you asking about starting a WikiProject on Wikipedia itself? WP:PROJ says:
    • "A WikiProject is a collection of pages devoted to the management of a specific topic or family of topics within Wikipedia; and, simultaneously, a group of editors that use said pages to collaborate on encyclopedic work."
    I don't see how that would apply to a group of editors who had only their age range in common (but of course the world is not limited by my ability to comprehend it). However, there are many topics on Wikipedia likely to be interesting to young people, and several WikiProjects focus on such topics. Not all of their members are necessarily young, but a lot of them probably are. You can also start any sort of social group you like, outside of Wikipedia. If you are interested in teaching wiki editing to students, you might find something useful in: User:Teratornis/Tips for teachers. --Teratornis (talk) 20:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I tried another search: Search Wikipedia with Google for: young wikipedians. Some of the search results look like they might relate to your question. --Teratornis (talk) 20:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If I recall correctly more than a group there was a wiki. Try to ask User:Martinp23, I recall he was involved. Snowolf How can I help? 22:39, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    WAAA

    No, I'm not crying. I'm not sure I did the blockquotes right on the WTIX-AM page.

    I'm not sure what I did with the quotes was proper for Wikipedia, but I felt like these quotes needed to be there. also, the numbers for the references don't look right.

    And there's a conflict between two sources. I looked and looked and finally found where WGIV was described as the first black radio station in North Carolina (in 1947), but other sources say WDIA was first in the country (in 1948), which would mean WGIV was not. But I'm tired of searching for evidence. I know that right now the article doesn't look right for this reason. Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:32, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    The quotes are OK, they could do with a bit of formatting (and maybe a section header) but they don't need either. The refs should go after the text, not before as they do now. As for the sources, someone will have to sort that out (I'm not familiar with the subject so I'll leave them for now. I'll sort the quotes and refs as soon as I've posted this. George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp 21:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I tried to format it a bit. I hope that helped. Cheers GtstrickyTalk or C 21:21, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    The refs do go after the text, but how they ended up on a separate line I don't know. Thanks both of you for your help. It looks good.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 17:05, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Oops. Two of the references got messed up by the fixes. They're fine now.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 17:08, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Subpages

    If I want a subpage for some information, say "XYZ", does it make any difference whether the subpage is:

    [[User:Me/XYZ]]

    OR

    [[User talk:Me/XYZ]]

    ?? Thanks, Wanderer57 (talk) 21:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    The User talk: version takes you to XYZ's talk page (all pages have one), while the User: version just takes you to the page, from the talk you can go to the article and vice versa. George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp 21:15, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    MediaWiki Scripts

    I've noticed the user scripts friendly & Twinkle has been added as a Gadget in the preferences could Lupin's Anti-Vandal tool be added also, I find it very useful while patrolling for vandalism and if it's added as a Gadget it would clean up my monobook.js file slightly. Terra What do you want? 21:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Don't you have to be approved for Lupin's? If so, it can't go in the preferences. George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp 21:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Most scripts which I'm talking about are being added here by someone. Terra What do you want? 21:30, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I think it could. I would ask User:Lupin. I would think he would have to be part of the decision. GtstrickyTalk or C 21:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
     Done Left a note on Lupin's talkpage, and have asked if he could comment on this discussion. Terra What do you want? 21:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    No, you don't have to be approved by Lupin. By the way, there's not much point in dropping a note at Lupin's talk page as he has made a sigle edit since November. Whatever the decision should be, consider yourselves free to discuss it without needing Lupin's approval (of course if he's still reading us, better :) ). Snowolf How can I help? 22:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes... I left several cries for help.. maybe two, on his page. Yes, this would be great to place in the Gadget area, however, I still think the script itself needs a few more revisions, because something in the code does not allow users on Safari to use the filtered recent changes page. If it is going to be put up there, I would think it needs to be fixed so it allows that.— Dǣdαlus T@lk\→(quick link) 07:59, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Automation Tools

    My question is related to the previous one, which is why I'm putting it here. It would be handy for me to have a tool to make it easier to add messages of "welcome", vandal 1, 2, 3 etc. At present I paste in templates but getting the template code by cut and paste takes a lot of time.

    Can you recommend a "tool" for this please? Wanderer57 (talk) 21:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    See WP:TWINKLE and WP:FRIENDLY which can now be activated using the gadgets tab under your preferences (located at the top of any page) GtstrickyTalk or C 22:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You need Firefox as your browser for them to work. GtstrickyTalk or C 22:10, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    That's not true - you can have safari. Wisdom89 (T / C) 22:14, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I did not think Friendly worked in safari yet. The info on the gadgets tab must be outdated. Thanks for clarifying. GtstrickyTalk or C 22:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Friendly works with Safari, but I think it has glitches and bugs. Sometimes it works for me, other times it doesn't register that I've clicked a tab or checked a box - so you might be correct. Wisdom89 (T / C) 22:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you verra much!. Is it a matter of using both TWINKLE and FRIENDLY, or of picking one of them? Fortunately, though old and stoopid, I was still 'compos mentis' enough a year or two ago to switch to Firefox. ;o) Wanderer57 (talk) 22:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    For Vandalism, TWINKLE is the way to go, for welcoming, tagging articles with various useful templates etc..use FRIENDLY. My advice: employ both of them. However, be cautious with Twinkle, it's easy to become trigger happy. Wisdom89 (T / C) 22:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    They can be used together, they's for different purposes. Twinkle is more on the "destruction" side" while Friendly is more on the "helping" one :) (read: Twinkle is for warnings, afds, speedy deletions and so on while Friendly is for welcomes, tagging, etc). Snowolf How can I help? 22:37, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Responding/Posting a Comment to an article already on the site

    I was reading an article about October Road. They were having a discussion about the cancellation of the show. I tried to respond and was instructed to create an account which I did. Now I can not find after logging in the area to create an article for responses or respond to the one about October Road. Can you help me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 6ftsoccermom (talk • contribs) 22:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    If you want to talk about how to make the October road article better, find the place for discussion here.--KerotanLeave Me a Message Have a nice day :) 23:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    March 14

    Huy Nguyen

    Dear Help Desk,

    First off I just want to say this website is amazing; I learn so many things. You can search for anything on her and you guys will have it. However, I was wondering if I can be in Wikipedia. I would like to search for my name and have a brief summary of me. I noticed you have other sports player, model, and celebrities, so I thought can I write something about myself and be on Wikipedia....

    P.S. It would be really nice of you guys. I will pay if I have to.


    Thank you, Huy Nguyen

    I'm afraid we can't do that unless you are famous or something. Please see WP:N and WP:DELETE.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 00:04, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh yeah, and also WP:NOT#FACEBOOK.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 00:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    And see WP:BIO. If you are not famous enough to have a Wikipedia article about you, then you can write your biography on WikiBios, which accepts biographies about everybody. --Teratornis (talk) 00:55, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    And to finish the alphabet spaghetti, there's also WP:AUTO. AecisBrievenbus 02:19, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Freezing computer II

    Not sure if this is supposed to go here, or that anyone can do anything about it, but when I click on my preferences my computer will hang, freeze, and Internet Explorer will have to shut down. Does anyone else have a problem with this kind of thing happening and/or how I can fix it? Leobold1 (talk) 01:18, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm using Firefox and it works fine for me Superstarwarsfan (talk) 01:44, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    It also works fine for me in Internet Explorer. I haven't heard of the problem but try this link if you don't use the MonoBook skin normally. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:47, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Superstarwarsfan, I used Firefox a few months ago for a couple of weeks and never liked it. Mainly had to do with the setup of the menus/tabs/search of it.
    Primehunter, the problem is that I can't get into my preferences right now. I have the default skin right now (that's one of the things I want to change). Leobold1 (talk) 02:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you both for your prompt responses. Leobold1 (talk) 02:17, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The default skin is MonoBook. The link I gave goes to preferences in MonoBook whether or not that is the current skin, so I didn't expect it to make a difference when you already use MonoBook. Here is a similar link to go to preferences in Simple skin: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Preferences&useskin=simple. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I tag an article for not being neutral?

    I found an article that is far from being un-biased. How do I tag it? Superstarwarsfan (talk) 01:42, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia:Neutrality templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You can add {{pov|date=March 2008}}. If it's blatantly advertising, you can also tag the page with {{db-spam}} for deletion. Hersfold (t/a/c) 01:44, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_drink Superstarwarsfan (talk) 01:49, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    When you do add a tag, you should explain your reasons on the article's talk page. Sbowers3 (talk) 11:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    How to report someone that may be 3RR

    Is somebody reverting their own talk page repeatedly in violation of 3RR? Here's an example

    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:24.27.176.11&action=history

    Thanks 65.31.33.93 (talk) 01:56, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Actually, per WP:TALK, users may undo warnings/messages on their talk pages, although archiving is preferred. Secondly, just go to WP:AN3 and follow the instructions at the top of the page. Wisdom89 (T / C) 01:59, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Brain Anuerysm

    This question has been removed. Per the reference desk guidelines, the reference desk is not an appropriate place to request medical, legal or other professional advice, including any kind of medical diagnosis, prognosis, or treatment recommendations. For such advice, please see a qualified professional. If you don't believe this is such a request, please explain what you meant to ask, either here or on the Reference Desk's talk page.
    This question has been removed. Per the reference desk guidelines, the reference desk is not an appropriate place to request medical, legal or other professional advice, including any kind of medical diagnosis or prognosis, or treatment recommendations. For such advice, please see a qualified professional. If you don't believe this is such a request, please explain what you meant to ask, either here or on the Reference Desk's talk page. --~~~~
    We can't advise you on your medical condition; I'm sorry. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 02:08, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    See also Wikipedia:Medical disclaimer. Wikipedia does not give medical advice. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Question about editing article on hemorrhoids

    I have recently developed several hemorrhoids and have found a handful of unorthodox ways to cope with them. Would you mind if I posted my personal experiences in your hemmorrhoids article? I also have two pictures of my own hemorrhoids which I think would be better than the pictures in the article because they're "hi-res". Would you mind if I posted them?

    Thanks again for your help -- Great website!

    Jason —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.53.22.53 (talk) 03:39, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Personal accounts are definitely out, as they count as original research. Photos are another matter, although you'll need to create an account in order to upload them. After that, I'd guess you could leave a note on the article's talk page. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 04:02, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_history

    how in god's name can you justifiably create a page called "human history" & then have scant reference or indeed not even a dedicated chapter on ancient Greece and its enormous contribution to "human history"?

    little wonder your cite is constantly criticized for accuracy & objectivity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.201.49.181 (talk) 08:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm only bothering to discuss this with you don't have that much of an argument. I can't say why many don't like this site, but, the reason that much of the information you listed is not present is because it has not been written yet. It is a continuing process, not instant gratification. But like I said, I cannot say why people hate this site, the information on it is cited from reliable sources. It isn't original research.— Dædαlus T@lk\→(quick link) 07:43, 14 March 2008 09:00, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    That article, History of the world is a very "big picture" overview of history - it hardly spends more than a paragraph on any one civilization, since there have been dozens or even hundreds that have _all_ been important. We have an article on Ancient Greece. —Random832 14:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Human history redirects to History of the world which only has 13 content sections and doesn't devote one of them to any single civilization. Ancient Greece is mentioned and linked several times, for example in this text: "In the west, the ancient Greeks established a civilization that is considered by most historians to be the foundational culture of modern western civilization." Wikipedia probably has thousands of articles about ancient Greece, for example in Category:Ancient Greece and its subcategories. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Using material licensed under Creative Commons license

    An article contains text copied from another web site. The other web site is licensed under a Creative Commons license (by-sa 2.0). Is that license consistent with the GFDL so that the text could be used on Wikipedia? I know that some of the CC licenses are not compatible but I don't know which ones are, if any, and which ones are not. More generally, where would I find the answer to such questions? I expected that Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright would explain whether CC licenses are compatible with the GFDL but it doesn't actually get around to doing so. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 08:36, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    By-sa should be acceptable - the main restriction we have problems with in CC licenses is "nc," non-commercial, due to the fact that our content is copied elsewhere. You should probably check here to make absolutely sure, however. Hersfold (t/a/c) 12:04, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not actually sure about that - we accept it for images, but text generally has to be GFDL or public domain. You could maybe ask the author to dual-license it? —Random832 16:26, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Tables

    How do I use wiki-pipe to merge 2 cells under I column? 124.176.247.229 (talk) 11:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply] 

    {|class="wikitable"
|-
|rowspan="2"|This cell covers two rows
|normal cell
|-
|normal cell
|-
|colspan="2"|This cell covers two columns
|}

    Produces:

    This cell covers two rows normal cell
    normal cell
    This cell covers two columns

    I hope that helps! Hersfold (t/a/c) 12:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Rude picture

    Hi, I would just like to note that I have been offended by the following image on your site. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vulva_labeled_no_tags.jpg I am only 14 and i think you need to remember that wikipedia has younger readers too! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.77.238.161 (talk) 13:46, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm sorry to hear that, however Wikipedia is not censored for minors. Our content disclaimer states that the images we include in our articles are present for educational purposes, and may be offensive in nature. If you don't want to see images of that sort, I do respectfully suggest that you not go looking for them. Hersfold (t/a/c) 14:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Hey, I'm 15, and started editing Wikipedia two years ago. If I don't like a topic, I just don't read it. Don't you there learn about human reproduction system (or whatever it is called)? --grawity talk / PGP 14:54, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    References

    I still do not understand how I can show references on the page I want to edit. Can someone explain in plain English? I try the <ref> thing but when I try that and type something in, for example <The Sun by John Jones> it does not show a footnote number it just inserts <The Sun by John Jones>. How do I insert a footnote number in the appropriate place in the text and then have the information show at the bottom in the References section? I have all this information to share but it is very frustrating because I don't know how to enter it and the instructions are too complicated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Myszkowiak (talk • contribs) 13:52, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


    See, I can't even get it right to ask a question here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Myszkowiak (talk • contribs) 13:56, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    It's programming (low-grade programming, but programming natheless). Further instructions can be found at WP:CITE. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:04, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


    See, I can't even properly ask a question! HELP! I'd use the {{help me}} thingy but can't figure that out either.Myszkowiak (talk) 14:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    It would be e.g. <ref>The Sun by John Jones</ref> - though of course you'd need to provide more information than just "The Sun by John Jones". —Random832 14:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    References

    Does the reference info automatically show up in a Reference section? It doen't in the Sandbox. If not why does anything have to be entered between the [1] ? All that is needed is the footnote number inserted in the proper place in the text.Myszkowiak (talk) 14:37, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    The references will automatically show up in the reference section if the ref is tagged correctly and the references template is in the ref section. In the ref section you should see something like {{reflist}}. For more on this, see WP:REF. Dismas|(talk) 14:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Moved image to Commons, now what?

    I moved one of my own images to the Wikimedia Commons. Now what tag do I put on the copy here at WP to have it deleted in preference for the WM copy? Dismas|(talk) 14:55, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Tag the image on Wikipedia with {{subst:ncd}} or {{subst:ncd|Image:Filename.png}} if the filename on commons is different. They're then automatically added to the speedy deletion queue. Nanonic (talk) 15:28, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! Dismas|(talk) 20:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    help with life

    i need help with a porn aditon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.223.90.33 (talk) 15:44, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia does not offer medical advice. -- Kesh (talk) 15:49, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    See: Wikipedia:Medical disclaimer. Interestingly, it seems Pornography addiction is not a recognized disorder yet. --Teratornis (talk) 20:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Merging Infoboxes

    Is there any way that two or more infoboxes can be merged into one without totally redoing the entire formatting of both? For example: The Wikipedia entry on Bing Crosby, who was a highly successful recording artist as well as a highly successful film actor. How would I merge "Infobox Musical Artist" with "Infobox Actor"? One contains perameters that the other one lacks, and vice versa. However, if these infoboxes are kept separate then there is a repeat of information (such as his birth and death dates). Please help me if you can. Jimknut (talk) 16:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Just add the extra parameters, I created the box on Stephano (Shakespeare) from scratch so adding params should work. George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp 17:08, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    3 things

    How can you introduce a new barnstar and get the page to look like this? The image is here [6] and could be used for people from the UK who contribute to wikipedia. How would I get the page to look like other barnstar pages?

    Also, could someone tell me if this image is licensed alright or whether I need to add anything. [7]

    Also, is there anyway to change your user name without making a new account. I'd like a better name and would still like to keep my edits.

    Thanks Osama bin dipesh (talk) 18:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    For username change, see WP:RENAME. --grawity talk / PGP 17:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Dippy 247,
    1) Do you mean the general look/formatting of typical barnstars (like the background color with a border)? There might be a better method in doing this, but you might want to look at the source for The Original Barnstar. To see the formatting, click "Edit this page" (just use this method to look at the formatting; don't actually save any edits). Copy the formatting of that template and insert your image into the second line of that template, and preview it to see what it looks like. You can always test to see what it looks like in the sandbox. If that's not what you exactly meant, post back. --JamieS93 17:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks, it's what I meant! Osama bin dipesh (talk) 18:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia is a world wide cooperation and editors are judged by their edits, not their background. I think it would be against the spirit of Wikipedia to limit a barnstar to editors from a specific region, and a barnstar could easily be deleted on that basis. Editors can add themselves to Category:Wikipedians in the United Kingdom but many editors don't say where they are from and it's usually unverifiable. A barnstar for good edits about UK would be fine, but {{UK Barnstar}} is already on Wikipedia:Barnstars/Barnstar of National Merit. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:52, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm not saying you should judge editors on where they're from, you should just thank editors, and it would be good to just recognize where they're from. BTW, you could just check their userpages to see where they are from. Sorry if I sound rude but I'm not trying to!

    Also could someone add this to the list of barnstars. Template:The UK Barnstar

    Thanks Osama bin dipesh (talk) 18:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I definitely don't think it should be added to the list of barnstars without prior discussion. You can suggest it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Awards but there may be opposition. Thanking or awarding editors for being from a specific country sounds very controversial to me. Wikipedia has problems with nationalistic/ethnic/religious/... feuds between editors, and thanking editors for their background instead of their edits sounds like a bad idea to me. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:35, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    OK, thanks, I'll suggest it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Awards and see if it's a good barnstar. Also, could someone tell me if [8] is licensed alright Osama bin dipesh (talk) 19:34, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Speedy Deletion HELP

    My page indicates that "it is an article about a club or group that does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject." What do I need to do to provent this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hiphop4life2003 (talk • contribs) 18:31, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Indicate why the subject is important. Even if it's short. Merely stating that it exists, when and how it was founded etc..etc.. is not sufficient. Bear in mind that articles that do not meet the criteria for speedy deletion may still be deleted per WP:PROD and WP:AFD. Wisdom89 (T / C) 18:35, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Read this page about Wikipedia's notability standards, and then edit the page you created, adding information that shows how the subject meets those standards. --Tkynerd (talk) 18:35, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The page is Hip Hop 4 Life about an organization so Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) is especially relevant. Your username sounds like you may have a conflict of interest. If that is the case then Wikipedia:Conflict of interest says you are strongly discouraged from creating such an article. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I just added a few independent articles (secondary) to the site. Will this prevent deletion? Primehunter, my organization utilizes hip hop artists (who are influential to teens) to promote health and prosperity. I do not understand where the conflict stands. Please explain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hiphop4life2003 (talk • contribs) 19:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    If you're writing about an organization that you represent, then you're not writing from a neutral point of view. WP:NPOV is one of Wikipedia's key policies. Marasmusine (talk) 19:11, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Bear in mind that it's not a forbidden practice, but it's definitely discouraged to write an article that you yourself endorse or have ties to. However, if you do decide to write the article it must be neutral (as pointed out above), and it should not read like an advertisement. Also, it must be written from the third person. Wisdom89 (T / C) 19:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Help! need to change email address on account

    How do I change my email address on my account? need step by step -- I'm lost! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simmscanada (talk • contribs) 19:40, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    See Help:Preferences. Steps: click the "my preferences" link which should appear at the top of every page on Wikipedia after you log in. The "User profile" tab in your preferences has a field where you can edit your e-mail address. Also see Help:Email confirmation in case you have yet to confirm your e-mail address. --Teratornis (talk) 20:02, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Quite easy. Here you go:
    1. Make sure you're logged in (that is, your user name appears in the top right corner of the page)
    2. Click here or at the "my preferences" link in the top right corner of the page.
    3. In the screen that appears, look under "User profile"
    4. The first box you can type stuff into should be labeled "Email (optional)." Type your new address in there.
    5. Scroll to the bottom of that page and click Save.
    6. Go to the Main page and follow these directions to clear your browser's cache to make sure your changes take effect.
    7. Watch your email account for a few days for an email from "Wikipedia" or "Wikimedia". This will be your email confirmation to make sure you actually own the email address. Follow the directions in the email to confirm your email.
    8. If you don't see the email after a couple days, check your spam folders - sometimes the email gets sent there. If it's not there, wait a little longer, then repeat these steps.
    Hope this helps! Hersfold (t/a/c) 20:04, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    1. ^ and the
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