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May 23

Fantasy Hyperinflation?

on the subject of MMORPGS, I always wanted to ask: how does the game designers deal with inflation of the ingame currency? Since all the quests are generating cash out of the ether, how does the system deal with constant increase in the amount of money in the game and not turn into the sci-fi version of Zimbabwe? i do not think a player would be pleased if he suddenly found his treasure trove suddenly becoming worthless. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.240.189.90 (talk) 05:22, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There's talk of money sinks. Here's an article comparing money supply expansion in the real world with that of MMOGs. Tempshill (talk) 06:19, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spending unrecoverable money on training your skills makes it vanish back into the ether. In RuneScape, the Construction skill used to build a swanky house with gold-leaf-covered furniture, opulent silk curtains and a dungeon with a dragon in it. It's is ludicrously expensive and offers little way to re-obtain your money through use of the skill itself. Vimescarrot (talk) 10:12, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wear and tear on equipment can also be a good way of removing wealth from the game. In particular it deals with the issue of there being enormous amounts of the starting equipment in circulation. --Tango (talk) 10:37, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merchant festivals/auctions with unique items every so often helps to remove surplus coinage as well. -- Legeres (talk) 11:18, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh - and don't forget death. Different MMO's handle it differently, but for many the punishment does, in some way, result in monetary loss - losing items, skills or abilities which took money to gain. Avoiding death itself may also cost money, in the form of health-recovering potions or food (especially if bought from NPC stores, where the money once again vanishes, as opposed to trading with players, where it just moves around). Vimescarrot (talk) 17:49, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Players quitting effectively removes money from the game, too, if they don't give it away. Vimescarrot (talk) 17:50, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can have a value sink in NPCs. Items used in quests, trades, sales to shopkeepers (who are convenient but pay below-market rates), etc. all take value out of the system. If there's a glut of a certain item, people will also tend to drop them rather than bother picking them up, so when the game disappears dropped items, value is removed from the system. -- 128.104.112.106 (talk) 18:45, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

May 24

Viola Concerti

Hi all, does anyone know of some viola concerti for an intermediate to advanced level player? As an example of music I am currently using, I have played through J.S. Bach's Cello Suite in G Major, G.P. Telemann's Viola Concerto in G Major, J.C. Bach's Concerto in C Minor (actually by Casadesus), and a little of the Handel-Halvorsen Passacaglia in G Minor (encountered some trouble there). I am looking for good solo pieces that, preferably, do not require an orchestra. If someone could offer their advice or personal opinions, that would be great. Duos, trios, (any instrument so long as there is one viola) or string quartets with a prominent viola part will be fine. If they are available on IMSLP or another site that offers public-domain music, that would be helpful. Finally, if recordings are available on Youtube, for example, a link would be much appreciated. Thanks, Theaura (talk) 00:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A Song Title

I was watching videos online, and heard this one song I can't find anywhere else. I don't know the name to it, so if these lyrics sound familiar to you could you give me the song title? Not sure if these are the actual lyrics, so misspellings or words I got wrong is my fault. I'm not very good at hearing a song and knowing exactly what they're saying. There should at least be enough there that's right to know the song.

Take a look at my life all black Take a look at my clothes all black Like Jonny Cash all black Like the Rolling Stones when they're painted black Like the (something I can't tell) all black Like the color of your dress all black Like the seats in my Cadillac I used to see red now it's just all black

       o see red now it's just all black

As long as I could remember, I dreamed in black and white As I grew up and the sun went down, I never felt more alright My mother she used to tell me, son you'd better get to church It's a dark dark world and the (something) out there and you know it's only getting worse Yeah, never been much for weddings, or anniversaries, but I'll go to a funeral if I'm invited, any day of the week Some people say that I sound strange, some say that I'm not right, but I find beauty in this world every single night

Take a look at my life all black Take a look at my clothes all black Like Jonny Cash all black Like the Rolling Stones when they're painted black Like the (something I can't tell) all black Like the color of your dress all black Like the seats in my Cadillac I used to see red now it's just all black

That's all I remember from the song. Things I don't know are in parentheses. And they say "something", or something like that in them. If you can get me the name of this song that would be great. <(^_^)> Pokegeek42 (talk) 12:54, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The song is "All Black" by Good Charlotte, from their album Good Morning Revival. --Canley (talk) 13:17, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so very much! <(^_^)> Pokegeek42 (talk) 17:57, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A tip: the lyrics of popular music songs are often posted on the Internet. This means you can often resolve this sort of question by taking a distinctive phrase from the lyrics that you are sure of, and doing a Google phrase search on it. You might add the word "lyrics" as a second search term. For example, a search for

"look at my life all black" lyrics

will produce a whole bunch of hits confirming Canley's answer. If it doesn't seem to work, maybe you remembered the words wrongly; in that case, try another bit of the song. --Anonymous, 18:58 UTC, May 24, 2009, copyedited later.

Rock/Pop Academy Sydney

Which Pop/Rock Academies are there in Sydney? Which one is the best? --78.52.233.33 (talk) 16:24, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Background music (again)

Cut and paste: This will be difficult but I was watching some clips on YouTube and was watching this clip. I was wondering what the background theme music? I believe it has been used before, probably in an ad. --Blue387 (talk) 21:44, 24 May 2009 (UTC)--Blue387 (talk) 01:44, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It sounded to me like it was a custom piece that was specifically composed to sound as much like the theme to Star Trek: The Next Generation as possible, without infringing upon its copyright and requiring Family Guy to make any royalty payments. This approach is pretty common. Tempshill (talk) 00:17, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

May 25

Free the Band MP3s

Back in what I think was 2006, when the All-American Rejects released their Move Along Album, and Bionicle was doing their Toa Inika line, they did a crossover of the two, saying the Piraka had kidnapped the AAR. There was a website up that had some games, clues, and contests, and in one of the two games where you conttrol the Toa, you could collect free MP3s. I had collected them all when it came out, but was unable to get them to my new computer and forgot about them for two years. But I remembered them and finding a link to the site I gathered most of the names of the MP3s. The links to them do not work so I am going to buy them, but I know there were some I didn't get. Using my memory and the game I got these songs:

Don't Try This At Home - Punchline

Emergency - Paramore

Skip to the End - Futureheads

Rise - Todd Hanigan

Can't Look Down - Zox

Can't Stop - Love Arcade

Out Here All Night - Damone

So Far We Are - French Kicks

What's On Your Radio - The Living End

All of the Above - Big City Rock

Learn to Fly - Carbon Leaf

Gunslinger (Runnin' Outta Time) - Over It

There was also a song by a band called Undertones and a song or band that had something to do with Satellites. If anyone could tell me the names of these mystery songs or any other songs I missed I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. BioYu-Gi! (talk) 03:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A late 80's/early 90's Japanese anime TV show

I don't remember much about it, but it had to do with a group of young animals searching for whatever in the wild. At the end they were killed one by one by wolves or something, when one of their stronger members died or was killed. 67.243.7.41 (talk) 14:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

house in Mill Valley

When "The Ted Knight Show" (part of the Too Close For Comfort package) relocated to Mill Valley, there was another Victorian house shown. Where is the exact location of that house?69.203.157.50 (talk) 04:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel L. Jackson's first use of motherfucking or motherfucker?

What was Samuel L. Jackson's first onscreen use of a derivative word of motherfuck, for which he is now famous? Was it Pulp Fiction (and inherited from Tarantino's writing style) or did it start sooner?--Sonjaaa (talk) 20:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

One of his earliest speaking roles was a somewhat middle-sized part in Goodfellas. Given the nature of his character, and Scorcese's penchant for use of colorful language, I would not be surprised if the right answer was Goodfellas... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 02:33, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I thought that might be the case as well, but the YouTube clip of his short exchange with Pesci's character before getting shot just has him saying "fuck", not "motherfucker". I can't remember if he had any major speaking roles in Goodfellas or not. Even if he did say it before Pulp Fiction, and chances are that he did, the word probably wasn't nearly as prominent as it was in PF, as in the scene with the wallet, etc. AlexiusHoratius 03:24, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jackson's role in Goodfellas was minor, with Jackson speaking a couple of lines at most, none of them memorable. (His only important scene was him getting shot.) You may remember him as the DJ in Do the Right Thing, but of course he didn't do a lot of swearing while on the radio. His first truly memorable scene, complete with "motherfucker", was in Jungle Fever, although of course it was Tarantino's writing in Pulp Fiction a couple of years later that made Jackson's swearing iconic. —Kevin Myers 04:18, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

May 26

The Answer Man

According to an article printed in the 1940s, there were two questions that The Answer Man was unable to answer:

How many buffalo would it take to fill Grand Canyon?
Do birds dream?

Can these questions now be answered? Pepso2 (talk) 17:49, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The buffalo one is a bit of a joke (and it was originally cows, not buffalo). In short, the "wrong" answer begins with "assume each cow is a perfect sphere." In other words, it makes fun of the way mathematicians tend to oversimplify real world problems. As for an answer - it is answerable if you ask a distinct question. What kind of buffalo? How big? How small? Can we purée them so they fill every crook and cranny? How do you want to declare the ends of the canyon? Do we put up a dam on each end to hold the buffalo in? Only when you precisely state the question is there an answer. Until then, it is "answerable" but no answer may be correctly given. -- kainaw ™ 18:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As for the cows/buffaloes, the mathematician in me says that one should suffice, given enough food and eternal life. --NorwegianBlue^talk 18:16, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just want to point out that Wikipedia actually has an article on the Spherical cow. --Zerozal (talk) 19:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And as for the birds, this source says they do have REM sleep, which strongly suggests that they dream. --NorwegianBlue^talk 19:22, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What do birds dream about? Bus stop (talk) 19:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The fiords. --NorwegianBlue^talk 19:48, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That answer deserves immortalization at Dweller's Ref Desk thread of the week award (unless Bus Stop is your sockpuppet, so that you served as your own straight man). Deor (talk) 21:22, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm not NorwegianBlue's sockpuppet. In all honesty -- I don't even "get" the joke. I really would genuinely appreciate it if someone would explain it to me. Bus stop (talk) 22:45, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dead Parrot. -- JackofOz (talk) 23:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That is funny. I have seen that comedy routine once or twice, but I never took note of the reference to the "fjords." Thanks. Bus stop (talk) 23:29, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Edsel is dead. It has ceased to exist. Pepso2 (talk) 12:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, such a lack of imagination and such hamstringing by trying to be scientific.

These questions are easy to answer using language and logic, rather than science.

Q1) One. As soon as one buffalo has been placed in Grand Canyon, regardless of size, the canyon is by definition no longer empty. It has therefore been filled. It may not be filled completely, but that's a problem for the person who set an imprecise question.

Q2) Birds definitely do dream, although they may forget the content when they wake up. NB Birds generally prefer to be called "women" in these days of political correctness.

Hope that helps. --Dweller (talk) 15:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Q1) One, but he would have to find a shovel he could use with his hooves? DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:37, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nice. --Dweller (talk) 19:28, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm bored

While Fishing, I get bored quite quickly. I check the Ref Desk regularly, as well as numerous webcomics that I don't want to add to, and the various offshoots of lolcats. What else can I do, sat in front of a computer, while Fishing? What do you do? Vimescarrot (talk) 19:32, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This really isn't a question for a reference desk. We provide references and answer questions. Would you walk into a library and tell the refdesker there that you're bored? Enjoy the "doing nothing" that comes with fishing; if you're getting that bored, maybe you should go do something else. Matt Deres (talk) 20:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just to make this clear, judging by his link, is fishing is Runescape fishing, Matt. Anyway, personally, I'd play a game that doesn't bore me. (By definition, that game is most definitely not Runescape, but if it works for you...) -- Captain Disdain (talk) 20:31, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You could check out Second Life or, even better, IRC. Or find a forum for a subject that interests you. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 07:51, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you need to examine your motives here. Why are you playing a game that bores you? Why not find one that is entertaining from start to finish? APL (talk) 14:52, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When I'm bored, I like to write an encyclopedia. --Dweller (talk) 15:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Request Rollback permission, and help fighting vandalism on Wikipedia using Huggle. I've been doing it the last couple of weeks, and am amazed by both the stupidity, creativity and sheer numbers of those who want to vandalize. You need to take quick decisions, and be bold and cautious at the same time. It's really quite addictive. --NorwegianBlue^talk 18:29, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Go to Omegle and chat to a complete stranger. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 18:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're all awesome. Thanks. Vimescarrot (talk) 09:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

May 27

pieces of American culture

Henry Rush's "Cosmic Cow" puppet from Too Close For Comfort should be on display inside the National Museum of American History. When the National Museum of African American History and Culture is officially opened, these pieces should be on display. They're Rerun's red beret and matching suspenders from What's Happening!!, J.J.'s fisherman hat from Good Times, and Dorothy's silver shoes from The Wiz. Is there anything else that should be on display inside the two museums I've mentioned?69.203.157.50 (talk) 04:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for sharing your opinions on these matters, but the Reference Desk is for asking questions of the type which can be answered by refering to actual information. Open ended questions which merely seek the opinion of others regarding what "should" or "should not" be on display in a museum aren't really appropriate. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 04:55, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering if anyone else might have any suggestions on artifacts from The Cosby Show, Family Matters, The Parkers, Girlfriends, and any other TV shows depicting African American culture, that's all. I also feel the Port Chicago disaster should be depicted, as well.69.203.157.50 (talk) 11:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Soliciting opinions is still not the purpose of this desk, though. There are tons of forums out there where this would be a good discussion topic, but this board is not for open-ended discussions of that kind. Please take this topic elsewhere. Matt Deres (talk) 13:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NASCAR Racing vs. IndyCar Racing

What are the main differences, other than the obvious fact that NASCAR vehicles appear street legal, while Indy cars do not? Is there a reason drivers prefer one type over the other? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.241.16.82 (talk) 08:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To some, NASCAR may seem tougher since the cars are allowed to physically touch each other, often without penalty. "Rubbin's racin'!" - Days of Thunder Dismas|^(talk) 10:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indy cars are faster, and don't race with restrictor plates, but NASCAR is more popular and several drivers have switched from IndyCar to NASCAR for the challenge (and, I would think, the money). FWIW, more have gone from IndyCar to NASCAR than vice versa (Tony Stewart, Sam Hornish, Jr., Casey Mears, Max Papis, Robby Gordon) although a few NASCAR drivers like Gordon and John Andretti have raced in the still-very-prestigious Indianapolis 500. Recury (talk) 17:46, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NASCAR tracks have only left turns. Grand Prix racing has both left and right turns. 65.121.141.34 (talk) 13:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, that is incorrect, as NASCAR also runs road course races once or twice a year which involve many left and right turns. [1] As for the difference in the cars, see the articles car of tomorrow and open wheel car. 10draftsdeep (talk) 14:19, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the OP asked about IndyCar, which races about half of its races on ovals. Recury (talk) 16:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Categorizing music by topic

Hi, does anyone know of a database/website that categorizes music according to topic (such as love, politics, partying, social injustice, etc) rather than genre? In the sense that you could look up some famous hit and it would return either a category or a set of "tags". Thanks, Jørgen (talk) 14:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You could try http://www.allmusic.com They do have a pretty extensive database there. If not there, I am not sure of any other website that is likely to have it. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 16:30, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I don't think it has excactly what I'm looking for but I'll try to see what I find. Jørgen (talk) 19:29, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help finding a song?

I have this song, I think I heard it on an old film or something, but I can't find what it is, even with some googling, maybe you people can help?

In my head it's sung with a German accent, like Marlene Dietrich or something similar. The only words I can remember are something like "I couldn't help it" sung as a kind of one line chorus. It reminds me a bit of She's funny that way although the actual "I couldn't help it" line has a similar tune to "I did it my way".

Any ideas, from my garbled recollections? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.108.135.247 (talk) 15:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dietrich sings Falling in Love Again in The Blue Angel (1930). The last refrain is "Falling in love again/Never wanted to/What am I to do?/Can't help it." Catrionak (talk) 15:37, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! That's right, I was searching for "couldn't help it", not "can't help it"! 81.108.135.247 (talk) 16:34, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Babylon 5 question

Which episode of Babylon 5 was it where Michael Garibaldi is left alone in his ex-girlfriend's and her new husband's apartment, and told not to touch anything, and then thinks "'Don't touch anything.' There, I touched that. And that. Touch, touch, touch."? JIP | Talk 21:49, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure that is a season 4 episode, probably Conflicts of Interest or The Exercise of Vital Powers. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 00:06, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

May 28

The Beatles genres

The Beatles genres were so many because they were so creative they were Rock, pop rock, psychedelic rock, experimental rock, rock and roll, Classical and Hard Rock. But here on Wikipedia they are only listed as rock and pop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jongudni (talk • contribs) 01:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The place to discuss this is not the Reference Desk, but Talk:The Beatles. However, it looks like it's been discussed before and there is some consensus for the current version; see the "Archives" section of that talk page. Talk:The Beatles/Archive 20#Pop before Rock? is the most recent page in the archives in which various editors make proposals for changing the lead and run into some resistance from other editors who have had the same discussion before. Nothing is set in stone, of course, and editors can always reach a WP:CONSENSUS on the talk page to change anything and everything. Tempshill (talk) 03:19, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is also an ongoing discussion about completely removing genres from bands. The Beatles are not remotely unique in that they changed genres over time. Most bands that last as long (or longer) than the Beatles tend to change genres. Listing them all is mainly original research, not documented and referenced information. Until there is some official genre indicator for all bands, the debate about what genre each band should be listed as will continue. -- kainaw ™ 12:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Even as a devout Beatles fan, I am unable to discern a specific genre for them. TBH, I thought we'd gotten rid of that field. They were obviously rock'n'roll at the beginning, but they diverged toward the end. If I had to give them a category, I'd make a new genre called "Beatlesque" and lump them in it with oasis and all he other tribute bands. Dendodge _T\^C 23:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's true, and it's really the case with any band who created a lot of material and who didn't just repeat themselves. It's a pointless excercise to try to categorize The Beatles, or any band who wrote a variety of songs, as anything other than a rock & roll band. Their catalog is their genre. —Kevin Myers 03:29, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

film discussion (Cheaper by the dozen)

According to the film Cheaper by the dozen I&Cheaper by the dozen II,

If you could choose, which family (Baker or Murtaugh) is you want to be a child in it?Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dansonncf (talk • contribs) 08:04, 28 May 2009 (UTC) idiot! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.249.138.179 (talk) 11:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This sounds like you're asking for people's personal opinions. Which isn't really what the Ref Desk is for... --Dweller (talk) 12:06, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Songs about money

I am looking for a song(s) that is blatantly about money but do not know where to look. It can be any genre and should err on the side of appropriateness. I am not looking for opinion, but rather a list of fitting songs whether you like them or not. I want something similar to For the Love of Money however that is too well known being The Apprentice theme and all. The song(s) needs to be available for purchase specifically from iTunes store. I am trying to point out through the theme of the song that life is essentially about money and buying things. Any help either offering song selections or where to look would be appreciated.--71.165.84.18 (talk) 23:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(I'm sure The Apprentice's theme tune is neither soul nor funk, but what do I know?). I did a quick Google search and the result was [2]. That sounds promising. The first 2 that spring to mind are "Money (That's What I Want)" and "You Never Give Me Your Money", but—as Beatles tracks—they are not available via iTunes. Sorry I couldn't be of more help, Dendodge _T\^C 23:17, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How about C.R.E.A.M. by the Wu Tang Clan? You can use that piano line for a motif, and there's a funk/jazz version by the El Michels Affair that you could use for background music or similar, too. (first post, how do I attach my name to the end here?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roydisco (talk • contribs) 23:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I remember from my youth, hearing It's A Rich Man's World a fair amount on the radio.

Edit - I recalled the song, but not the actual title, which is Money, Money, Money by Abba. I also remember a "Mony, Mony" song, or something like that, but really don't know if I ever heard it right, and heard it less; i actually remember Weird Al's parody Alimony more.Somebody or his brother (talk) 23:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Money (That's What I Want), Money (Pink Floyd song), Money Don't Matter 2 Night and Money Changes Everything are some of the more obvious ones. 23:55, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Gold Digger, Mo Money Mo Problems, Can't Buy Me Love, ... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 00:46, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! I actually own Can't Buy Me Love and I did not even think about that. The theme of the song is probably the closest to what I actually could use (think economics concepts). But keep the suggestions rolling if anyone else can think of any other songs. The more the merrier.--71.165.84.18 (talk) 02:25, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Life's Been Good by Joe Walsh is pretty much along these lines as well. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 02:40, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"What God Wants Part II" by Roger Waters. They lyrics include

"God wants dollars

God wants cents

God wants pounds shillings and pence

...

God wants escudos

God wants pesetas

Don't send lira

God don't want small potatoes

Dismas|^(talk) 02:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Money for Nothing by Dire Straits. Rmhermen (talk) 03:11, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here are 115 songs about Money. (What an embarrassment of riches!) -- JackofOz (talk) 03:25, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And Blue Suede Shoes starts out "Well, it's one for the money ...". -- JackofOz (talk) 03:27, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mo Money Mo Problems by Notorious Big is good if you want to make the point that more money brings with it problems too. Or Loadsamoney by Harry Enfield, which was a brief hit in the 80s and is horrifically bad. 194.221.133.226 (talk) 08:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This site (http://divisionoflabour.com/music/) might be useful for seeking economic concepts in songs; check the keywords down the right-hand side. --Roydisco (talk) 09:19, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Money by Pink Floyd, Easy money by Billy Joel are two I can think of off the top of my head. 65.121.141.34 (talk) 15:15, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The first of those has already been mentioned. Dismas|^(talk) 16:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rich Girl by Gwen Stefani. Money by Jelleestone, about whom we do not seem to have an article. Adam Bishop (talk) 16:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How could I have forgotton one of Paul McCartney's silly coin songs? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 17:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Money" as sung by the inimitable conferencier Joel Grey (~~and girls~~) and Liza Minnelli in Cabaret. "That clinking clanking sound ..." ---Sluzzelin talk 18:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC) I must have somehow confuddled it with "Two Ladies", apologies to the Magnificent Ms. Minnelli. ---Sluzzelin talk 11:25, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How about All 'Bout the Money by Meja? Oda Mari (talk) 18:28, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"I Wanna Be Rich" by Calloway. Mike R (talk) 18:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

May 29

First minority president in movies?

Anyone know when a movie featured the first black president? How about first woman? --68.92.139.62 (talk) 03:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you mean President of the US, see Black president in popular culture (United States), where it is speculated that Rufus Jones for President (1933) was the first. There doesn't seem to be a corresponding article for women, and the subject of female presidents is not even mentioned in List of fictional United States Presidents, which is an odd oversight. —Kevin Myers 04:02, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, sorry. President of the US. (Forgive my American wiki-centrism!) --68.92.139.62 (talk) 04:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The earliest fictional female president on screen I could think of was President Leslie McCloud in Kisses for My President (1964) portrayed by Polly Bergen. "Actresses who played fictional presidents" mentions an earlier one: Ernestine Barrier played "Madame President" in Project Moonbase (1953), but I don't know whether that is a US president, I neither saw the movie nor read the story. ---Sluzzelin talk 13:36, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I really should have read the article I linked to. In Project Moonbase

"the President of the United States is a woman. This is counterbalanced, however, by the film's misogyny, wherein the female lead is portrayed as a 'spoiled brat,' and is threatened to be spanked by her male commander."

And speaking of gender clichés: Polly Bergen's President McLoud steps down from office when she becomes pregnant (and the film is about her husband anyway). ---Sluzzelin talk 18:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"female lead is portrayed as a 'spoiled brat,' and is threatened to be spanked by her male commander". That's hot. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 18:47, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Women taking maternity leave is a cliché? --Tango (talk) 20:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

She didn't take maternity leave, paid or unpaid, she resigned from office. And the newspaper headlines point out how it took millions of women to put her in the White House, but only one man to get her out. :-| ---Sluzzelin talk 20:46, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Olive Oyl for President (1948), ack ack ack ack ack. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good find! I guess then Betty Boop for President might be the oldest so far (1932). ---Sluzzelin talk 20:46, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well blow me down. I didn'st even see that. (I needs me spinach.) Clarityfiend (talk) 22:12, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In The Shadows - The Rasmus

In the song In The Shadows by The Rasmus what does the line "I know that I am haunted to be wanted" mean? --124.254.77.148 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC).[reply]

The lyrics look like they were generated by an Emo-lyric generator, so I wouldn't set too much store by this expression, but it's the same construction as "happy to be home" or "lucky to be alive" i.e. the singer/narrator's response to being wanted is to feel haunted or cursed. Perhaps he yearns to relinquish earthly responsibilities, or fears that his spirit has been crushed by an onerous duty such as conscription. Or perhaps he knows that he is not long for this world and doesn't want to let anyone down.

See here for more discussion of the song's "meaning".

chocolateboy (talk) 13:46, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

May 30

German version of "Up Where We Belong"

I am sure I've heard a German version of the song "Up Where We Belong"; it had a different title and sung by a woman and man duo, do not know whether they were the singers of the original. Does anyone know the title? --BorgQueen (talk) 17:52, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I only know of the parody version "Das schönste Lied kennt Guildo Horn", performed by Guildo Horn & die Orthopädischen Strümpfe. ---Sluzzelin talk 18:02, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's the song! Many thanks. --BorgQueen (talk) 18:06, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, wait, it sounds a bit different... but it was a long time ago, perhaps my memory doesn't serve me well. Still, thanks. --BorgQueen (talk) 18:11, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How about "Zwei Träumer auf der Flucht" by Bianca Graf & Perl? ---Sluzzelin talk 18:44, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot, I think this is it, since I recall the word "dreamer" in the song's title. --BorgQueen (talk) 18:47, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

El Dorado - soundtrack differences?

Why are the songs on the El Dorado soundtrack different from those in the movie? For instance, "Without Question" sounds much different in the movie than it does on the soundtrack. Elfred (talk) 19:04, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What does F.A.B. stand for?

I've been asked what the F.A.B. stands for - as in FAB1 etc. in Thunderbirds. The articles don't seem to suggest an answer. Does anybody know? Thanks in advance, Trafford09 (talk) 19:10, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I always thought it was just short for fabulous—like the "Fab 4". Dendodge _T\^C 19:30, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, one of my friends has done a Google query, & reckons he knows the answer. Shame - I was hoping we would have challenged Google :( If anybody thinks they are sure of the answer, please could they update the FAB article &/or give their answer here. Many thanks, Trafford09 (talk) 20:15, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Out of interest, what is the answer? Dendodge _T\^C 20:22, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know the program and am clueless whether this is related, but the article on Thunderbirds (TV series) talks about the letters "F.A.B." as used by the show's characters for voice procedure in their radio communication: The characters use the radio sign-off "F.A.B." rather than "Roger" or "Out". Anderson has often been asked what F.A.B. stood for. He replied "Full Acknowledgement of Broadcast". ---Sluzzelin talk 20:31, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Where is Aladdin (character) from?

I mean country... Thank you. --190.50.124.5 (talk) 23:04, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]