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No World War II?
The "On this day" fails to mention that today (September, 1st) that Germany invaded Poland, starting the Second World war., and personally, I think that's kinda important. --Thedudefromneverland (talk) 20:17, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
- As explained at Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries and on each of the individual dates' pages, "the events listed on the main page are chosen based more on relative article quality and to maintain a mix of topics, not based solely on how important or significant their subjects are."
- Nonetheless, an item about the Invasion of Poland appeared every year until 2012. As noted at Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/September 1, the article currently is ineligible for inclusion (due to a maintenance tag in place since February). —David Levy 21:04, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
- Besides, Gleiwitz incident appeared on August 31 this year, so in the interest of topic diversity, Invasion of Poland would have taken a break anyway even if it had been eligible to appear. —howcheng {chat} 23:58, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Democracy Day in Tibet?
The article says "the anniversary of which is observed by the Tibetan exile community as Democracy Day", and Tibetan exile community does not equal to Tibet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.22.21.3 (talk) 01:13, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- We're a bit limited for space in that section, I think. — foxj 17:48, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- 218.22.21.3 makes a valid point though—if anyone were to celebrate Democracy Day in Tibet, there's a very good chance they'd be shot. As it currently reads, the sentence is extremely misleading. Mogism (talk) 17:51, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- Suggestions welcome. — foxj 18:47, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- 218.22.21.3 makes a valid point though—if anyone were to celebrate Democracy Day in Tibet, there's a very good chance they'd be shot. As it currently reads, the sentence is extremely misleading. Mogism (talk) 17:51, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Spam
Reporting Spam: Someone's claimed today 'In the news section' - "In Mali, Islamist militants seize control of Douentza, ousting the local secular militia." Please don't label-ise militants as followers of Islam, coz Islam teaches PEACE! ME, I'm not a Muslim, but watched - My Name Is Khan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.131.116.162 (talk) 14:02, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
- The problem you run into is the whole "No True Scotsman" thing. If you start slicing and dicing group membership definitions to surgically excise everyone who would reflect poorly on that group, the definition of the group becomes nebulous enough to be meaningless. - That said, the question of whether they count as "Islamist" is a good one. I think by objective criteria they do. As far as I can tell, they self-identify as Islamist, are fighting with the primary goal of instituting Sharia law in the area, and have been identified as "Islamist" in a number of reliable sources. At Wikipedia we attempt to avoid rendering judgement ourselves, and for the most part defer to the judgement of reliable sources and self-identification of participants. If you have reliable sources that cast doubt on the classification of the people in question as "Islamist militants", please bring them to the attention of the people editing the relevant articles. Finally, you should keep in mind that Islamist and Islamic are related but distinct concepts. -- 205.175.124.30 (talk) 19:02, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Recent riots in Northern Ireland would not be described as perpetrated by "Protestant militants". A point expressed too severely is still a point. And in this case, a relevant one in my opinion. 83.70.170.48 (talk) 15:37, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
- Associated Press currently calls them "Protestant extremists", so is that what you meant? Art LaPella (talk) 17:48, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
- Sources closer to the story call them "protesters" and "loyalists", labels they would call themselves. 83.70.170.48 (talk) 08:34, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
- Such generalisation is a form of weasel wording and sloppy journalism. Wikipedia should set higher standards especially on the main page. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 19:57, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
- It's not a pejorative term in the applied context, there are no discriminatory undertones. James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:35pm • 11:35, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
- Christ taught peace as well. I doubt it would be controversial to call people on the Crusades Christians and they instigated a lot of violence. If that they were Muslims were coincidental and not part of their main mission it would be inappropriate. For the Northern Ireland counter example - this is more mixed, sometimes their religious affiliation is mentioned, sometimes not - it is less clear cut (for example historically Catholic IRA supporters might socialize with English Protestants without problems, just not Irish Protestants, which suggests it became more localized than just a purely religious schism. --81.149.74.231 (talk) 10:50, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
TFL archives
I'm not sure how it could best be done, but is there any way a link to the TFL archives (currently Wikipedia:Today's featured list/September 2012) can be included on the main page for days when TFL doesn't appear? It would make finding it a lot easier for users who missed it on the Monday.Optimist on the run (talk) 06:39, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
- I agree. To be honest, I think a 'recently featured' link the the most recent three lists, much like we have on TFA would be a good idea. I'm not sure where best to put it, though, considering that the template doesn't appear six days of the week, and I'm not sure about leaving it up all that time. 31.53.44.76 (talk) 07:08, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
- For the record, the lack of the three most recent lists this Monday was a result of human error. I'm going to look into the possibility of making the recently featured parameter manditory, so that if it does happen again someone will fix it.
The suggestion above is a good one, although I'm struggling to think where we could put the link. When TFL isn't running, the only plausible places that I can see are at the bottom of TFA (TFL's closest relative), or TFP (only two links at the bottom compared to three everywhere else), but I wouldn't want to encroach on either section. Even if the community liked one of those ideas, it would be a royal pain for the people that maintain those sections to remember to remove duplicate the link on Mondays and re-add on Tuesdays. —WFC— 04:49, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- For the record, the lack of the three most recent lists this Monday was a result of human error. I'm going to look into the possibility of making the recently featured parameter manditory, so that if it does happen again someone will fix it.