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    July 27

    Missing Oregon Person

    Upon looking at the famous people page (Oregon)I notice you have not included Mindy Duncan 1988 Miss Teen USA. I find this interesting as you have articles about her. It is also odd as she was the first Oregon teen to win this title and the only red head in its history. She is from Newberg Oregon. Cheryl Gray — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.137.165.142 (talk) 04:34, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi there, I have added her to the wikiarticle you found her absent from, however you also can help, as the topic above points out we are all volunteers with Pathos and expertise on certain topics so I encourage you to be WP:BOLD and wish you many constructive, WP:RS contributions in the future! Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 06:51, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Copy of deleted article

    The article for Bioscale was deleted without warning while being discussed in articles for creation. Could somebody please retrieve a copy of it? 70.79.73.253 (talk) 07:44, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello? Anyone? 70.79.73.253 (talk) 23:12, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    According to the deletion log Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bioscale was deleted as spam - click on the redlink to see the details. The procedure for requesting undeletion is at WP:REFUND. If you wish to resubmit it, the text would have to be rewritten so that it isn't spam. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:21, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    reference addition from an attachment file.

    hello, i want to add some citations to a page, but problem is the reference i want to give is in an pdf file. The file is valid and has link on a trusted site(pdf file is about publications and journals of the author which doesn't have links anywhere else). How do i add the reference to this pdf file? thanksMr RD (talk) 07:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    My advice would be to cite it in exactly the same manner as you would a web page; the cite web template has ample parameters to discuss PDF documents and their attributes.  drewmunn  talk  08:32, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Or if it is a PDF of a print journal or similar, {{Cite journal}}.--ukexpat (talk) 13:11, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Centering text of rows in sortable prettytables.

    Hello everybody, I'm preparing an article that contains a sortable prettytable. I would like to center the text of some rows, is there a command to do it without centering the text of single cells? Thank you for your help, Gabodon (talk) 10:38, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    What is the page you are working on? Are you referring to the PrettyTable library in Python? Is your article on your computer? Regarding centering in a prettytable in Python, the page https://code.google.com/p/prettytable/wiki/Tutorial contains the answer to your question (see the section Manually changing table style). -- Toshio Yamaguchi 12:56, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your answer. The tutorial has a section titled "Per-column settings", but probably it does not work in sortable tables. I made a few tries but with no effect. The page I'm writing is on my sandbox on it.wikipedia, about the largest sailing ships. Greetings from Italy, --Gabodon (talk) 05:02, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    [redacted]

    I removed the material that was not providing input to the AfD as well as material on the article talk page that wasn't related to the article. The way wp works someone will probably revert my reverts just because they have nothing better to do.--Canoe1967 (talk) 13:19, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I have removed the quoted material from your post above, since this help page is regularly indexed by search engines. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:43, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I have removed the whole thing. We can't accept a legal notice on the Help desk. It must be sent to the WMF offices. Looie496 (talk) 17:07, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    FYI: For reference, a user posted a nearly identical threat which was brought up for discussion at WP:ANI#Legal threats by User:Wordsindustry. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 20:12, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    We have forum-shopping in where to make the legal threats. Yuck. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:25, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I have opened a dispute but the other editor does not respond. What's next?

    I have opened a dispute:"1947–48 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine" but the other user does not respond. He received a formal notice 5 days ago, and my notice 18 days ago.

    I am not looking for punitive measures. I just want to settle the dispute. What could be my next step? Ykantor (talk) 13:55, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    There are no 'punitive measures' for not participating in dispute resolution. Nobody is obliged to take part. I'd suggest that you try the Wikipedia:Third opinion option - getting an uninvolved contributor to look at the disputed content might resolve the deadlock. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:22, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. I am trying the 3rd opinion option. Ykantor (talk) 19:00, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    You should announce it at the talk page for the article. --Frederico1234 (talk) 15:56, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I announced it in both the article talk page and the user talk page Ykantor (talk) 19:00, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Where? I don't see it. --Frederico1234 (talk) 19:14, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    please have a look at:Please re-install it, otherwise I'll have to open a dispute. Ykantor (talk) 11:00, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
    Please be very careful in an editing dispute on that article. It is subject to WP:Discretionary sanctions for Arab-Israeli conflict. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:45, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. I am rather carefull. But assuming the worst case (a user ban) there will be little difference compared to the present situation, since this user is deleting most of my contributions anyway. 19:57, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
    I now see that two other editors have reverted your contribution. That means that Third opinion is no longer applicable. Post to the article talk page, or to the talk page of the second editor who reverted your addition. Another option might be a content Request for Comments to get other editors to look. Do not re-apply your changes within 24 hours after you last made them, because the article is subject to one revert in 24 hours. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:34, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I would like to apply at WP:RFC but there is a caveat: "Before requesting community comment, at least two editors must have contacted the user ". How do I get those 2 editors? I have tried it once, but those 2 specific users were not interested. Thanks. Ykantor (talk) 02:43, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Privacy of my IP address

    You are not logged in. Your IP address will be publicly visible if you make any edits. Please log in or create an account to have your edits associated with a user name, among other benefits."

    I was unaware of this issue when I started to correct a spelling error at the bottom of the David Rosenfelt page ("d" added to his name on the link to his website). I reset my change to the original error and backed out. Is my IP address now floating around in Wikipedia somewhere? If it is, what can I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.144.77.53 (talk) 14:58, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    If you did not "submit" the change, then it is not in the page history. You can avoid this problem by creating an account to edit with. See WP:ACCOUNT for how to sign up. RudolfRed (talk) 17:40, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    And it is on this page and its history, of course. Bielle (talk) 17:47, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    And if this editor creates an account right now and removes the IP address from this thread, can s/he request an oversight to revdelete this? Is the suppression allowed if the account is created after the edits were made (it is not clear from Wikipedia:Oversight/FAQ)···Vanischenu「m/Talk」 21:20, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi, article recently created, can anybody check the spelling and if it's correctly categorized?

    2013 Mitake, Yamaguchi spree killings. Thank you indeed!!!!!!

    What the article currently needs the most is more sources in order to satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (events). -- Toshio Yamaguchi 17:43, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I will take a look at it and try to improve it as time permits. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 17:51, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I have added some sources. I am unsure whether that is enough to establish Wikipedia:Notability under Wikipedia:Notability (events). -- Toshio Yamaguchi 18:25, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    One thing you need to take care over is that articles concerning individuals accused of crimes, but not yet convicted, must avoid stating that they are guilty. I think the article is o.k. in that regard for now, but be keep it in mind when further material is added. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:49, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    GNU/Linux

    I thought we had a policy or guideline regarding renaming "Linux" to "GNU/Linux" and renaming "GNU/Linux" to "Linux" in the many articles that use the term, but I can't seem to find it. Does it exist? --Guy Macon (talk) 20:11, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Maybe it falls under WP:COMMONNAME, since Linux is more common than GNU/Linux according to GNU/Linux_naming_controversy. RudolfRed (talk)
    As far as I know, some Linux distros don't have GNU components. --NaBUru38 (talk) 02:03, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I am pretty sure that you can create an entire Linux distribution using the BSD toolchain instead of the GNU toolchain, but has any distro actually done that? If even one has, that would make the "GNU/Linux" term not just unnecessary, but wrong.
    The fact of the matter is that the majority of Linux users call it "Android" and the majority of BSD users call it "Apple OS X"... ---Guy Macon (talk) 08:21, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding to a page

    Hello...today I added Ruth Asawa and Benny Bufano to the list of artists on this page: List of people from San Francisco

    I also wanted to add Julia Morgan, architect, to the list of OTHERS, but the section of the list that includes the "other" is encapsulated (for lack of a better term) in such a way that additions are not possible. I've clicked on "edit" but the list lights up in a pale blue screen.

    Am I doing something wrong, or is the list 'locked' or 'encapsulated' for a specific reason?

    Thank you. MizKatz (talk) 20:24, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Are you trying to edit the article by clicking on Edit Page, which will invoke Visual Editor? The behavior that you mention is something that happens if you are using an older version of a web browser that is not supported by Visual Editor but is not recognized as a back-level unsupported web browser. Try editing the page using Edit Source, which uses Wiki markup. Please reply here what web browser you are using, and maybe the Visual Editor team will look into the version issue. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:40, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I am using Mozilla Firefox and my computer runs on Windows 7. I had no trouble adding Ruth Asawa and Benny Bufano directly on that page. I have taken your suggestion and used Edit Source, and it worked. Thank you. 67.160.239.132 (talk) 22:23, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Visual Editor is buggy. In the opinion of some editors, it should not have been released for general use in its current state. What version of Mozilla Firefox were you using? I experienced the exact same problem when I was using Firefox 12. I resolved it by upgrading to Firefox 22. Your version of Firefox may be back-level. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:28, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, it appears that you made your first post using your registered account as User:MizKatz and your second post from an IP address. In the future, you might want to be careful before trying to edit to be sure that you are logged in, so as to preserve your edit history. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:29, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you for the reply. I am on Firefox 22.0 -- and when I was making these few additions I thought I was signed in the entire time, but I may not have been. I am really new to this, so I will always pay attention and make sure I'm signed in. Thanks again for your help. MizKatz (talk) 03:08, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Templates - How To Change Present "Show"/"Hide" Buttons to "Open"/"Close" Instead?

    QUESTION about Templates => How Can You Change "Show"/"Hide" Buttons to "Open"/"Close" Instead? Seems some may find the "Open" and "Close" wording easier To understand than the present "Show" and Hide" Wording - Thanks in advance for your reply - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 23:22, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Help:Collapsing#Customization shows how to change it for yourself. Is that what you want? The defaults are set in MediaWiki:Common.js:
    var collapseCaption = 'hide';
var expandCaption = 'show';
    I don't think there would be consensus for changing those. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:43, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    @PrimeHunter - Thank you *very much* for your help with this - no, I'm not considering changing any defaults - but may try to change the parameter(s) for a local project - thanks again for your help - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 13:39, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    OK. MediaWiki:Common.js has code made for the English Wikipedia. Other wikis may use other code for collapsible tables. If you have problems then say which wiki it is. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:47, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    @PrimeHunter - Thanks Again - *all* your help w/ this is *greatly* appreciated - enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 17:14, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    uploading photo on wikipedia entry

    I am a registered user but NOT autoconfirmed. I wish to upload the image of my wife to her Wikipedia page. It is a photo which I personally took of her. I wish to obtain manual permission to do this. Please advise. Muggyjen55 (talk) 23:48, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Hey Muggy. Free images (free copyright license or public domain) should be uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here. The Commons has no autoconfirmation threshold for uploading files so you can head over there and upload it immediately. Once uploaded there, it can be used here natively. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:48, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I can give you a hand over at commons if you wish. Just leave a message on either of my talk pages. Commons can be a little picky if the image page isn't done correctly. I can also help get it into her article. Thanks Fuhghettaboutit for answering the OP politely and not with some of the usual COI harshness.--Canoe1967 (talk) 01:00, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    July 28

    Brotherhood of St. Andrew references

    How do I indicate my reference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gooddal (talk • contribs) 03:01, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Start by reading Referencing for Beginnners. After that, if you have a more specific question, come back for help. RudolfRed (talk) 03:12, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    New signature

    Is my new signature kosher?--TonyTheTiger (T/C) Check out the WAWARD 03:29, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't like it per WP:SIG#DL. "Check out the WAWARD" is long for a signature, it links to an award page and not a page to improve the encyclopedia, and you are the only listed awardee. That makes the signature look self-promotional. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:33, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    O.K. Now it is more like my old signature.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/FOUR]]/CHICAGO/WAWARD) 19:21, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, it was like this.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 19:26, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Urgent help needed

    Please kindly help me out with the following problem.

    On behalf or Dr Debapriya Bhattacharya, I am requesting urgent help. The wiki page of Debapriya Bhattacharya is Debapriya Bhattchariya. But the problem is the link got a wrong spelling. "Bhattachariya" spelling should be "Bhattacharya" i.e. there should not be the letter "i". Because of this mistake when we search for this page in wiki it appears with the wrong spelling of my colleague. How can I sort out this problem? If there is no way to solve this, then what is the procedure to close this page so that I can re-create a page for Debapriya Bhattacharya with correct spelling.

    Looking forward to get a helpful response.

    Regards, Sifat — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sifat.sagufta (talk • contribs) 08:02, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    We can move the page to another spelling but the link isn't spelled "Bhattachariya", it's spelled "Bhattchariya" without "a" after "t", so it would appear there are two things to change and not one. Is that correct? PrimeHunter (talk) 09:04, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Moved, as the references given (at least the first three) all use the requested spelling Rojomoke (talk) 09:36, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Inaccurate information & Common misconception

    I was reading a page and found some incorrect information. I'd love to contact the author of this page, but can't find a way to do so. Canada in the American Civil War is the page to which I am referring. It says that slavery was a key influence on the American Civil War. This is a common misconception, but I would like the error corrected. Slavery was not brought up as an issue until after the war started. Lincoln used it as a way to get support for the war. It also brought about the ability to have blacks to serve in the Union army. Slavery was in the North and the South. Only 6% of the Confederacy owned slaves at the time of the war. There were even black slave owners. Took one guy a year to prove he owned another black man. The war was started by the Morrill Tariff. The South was being unjustly taxed. The Confederacy was born to represent the South. Lee and Grant both had slaves. Lee set his free before he left to fight. Grant didn't give his up until the 13th amendment forced him to do so. The War didn't start until Lincoln sent the Union Army to make the Confederates "pay up." Lincoln was, quite frankly, a jackass. Sure, he freed the slaves. That's fine and dandy. However, he didn't give a shit about the slaves. Sure, we say slavery is gone. Is it really? Hell no. It just has a different name, and we've included all races now. The American Civil War wasn't about slavery. It was about people standing up against tyranny and injustice. I couldn't care less what color someone's skin is and I think slavery was bad, but think about it. Do you think a disagreement over slavery is a good reason to start such a bloody war? No one felt that strongly about it. At the time, slavery was just kinda there. Even if you didn't agree with it, you didn't really do anything about it. Besides, a war wouldn't be the answer to something like that. Would 300 THOUSAND people go off to their deaths for a bunch of black people (keep in mind, "coloreds" were still segregated from whites for a long, long time after that)? I think not. It took a long time before a substantial number of whites were ready to let "coloreds" have the same rights they had. In the mindset of those people back then, free or not, a negro was a negro. Slavery was bad, but it's not the thing we think it was. It's a common misconception that slaves were beaten by their owners. The point of having a slave was for them to serve you. If you were beating them and mistreating them all the time, they'd be incapable of serving you. Those who sold slaves DID beat them, but owners didn't beat their slaves.

    Wikipedia pages don't have specific authors. They are created by someone, but then can be edited by anyone who cares to, even you. The place to discuss this particular issue is on its Talk Page, Talk:Canada in the American Civil War. You will need to be able to refer to independent, reliable sources to back up any changes you wish to make. Rojomoke (talk) 09:45, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, Wikipedia is based on consensus and neutral point of view. You have a strong pro-Southern point of view, and you will find that pushing it will encounter opposition. Many twenty-first century historians write that twentieth-century historians minimized the importance of slavery as a reason for the American Civil War, and you will have difficulty imposing a non-consensus interpretation. Any change to the interpretation of the causes of the American Civil War will be contentious. You could try a content Request for Comments to see if other editors support your point of view. In any case, attempting to change the point of view of the article by yourself will result in conflict. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:18, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing chris tiu

    I'm the mother of chris tiu. I tried to edit Chris Tiu's official blog but it was removed. Chris has two official blogs. The first one ( which is up to 2011) was in the wikipedia. The most recent one, which i tried to add, was removed when i tried editing it. It is ctiu.blogspot.com. Please try to check and verify it by reading through it. Thanks. Sincerely yours, Lianne tiu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liannetiu (talk • contribs) 10:28, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia is not a blog. Please read the conflict of interest policy. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:18, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    @User:Robert McClenon - I believe the OP was trying to update Chris Tiu#External links. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:34, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    @User:Liannetiu - I have done the change with an explanation in the edit summary. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:34, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    homepage

    how do I make wiki my home page thx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patriciagandolfini (talk • contribs) 11:07, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Hey Patricia, Every browser has a setting for making a particular site your homepage. As an example, in Firefox, click on Firefox at the top of the page, go into Preferences from there, then go into the General tab, and in there you should see where to set your homepage. If you want instructions for a different browser, tell us what it is. By the way, this site is called Wikipedia, not wiki. A wiki is any website using wiki software; there are thousands of them.Template:Z30--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:10, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Lost my edit toolbar,... again

    I lost my edit toolbar on the Main Wikipedia pages a day or two ago... again. I checked the archives for similar incidents, and they claimed that the people involved should either use WP:PURGE or update their JavaScript. My PC insists that my JavaScript program is updated, and purging hasn't worked for me. As I mentioned in the title, this isn't the first time I've had this problem. -------User:DanTD (talk) 13:06, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    This happens to me occasionally as well. I believe this can happen if your internet connection is poor. It seems in that case the toolbar either loads in a messed up state (such that you see all the special characters and stuff uncollapsed above the edit window) or doesn't appear at all. At least that's what happens to me sometimes. It might sometimes also be caused if there is a lag in Wikipedias database servers (I think). -- Toshio Yamaguchi 13:27, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Another step that sometimes works is to bypass your browser cache - that's Ctrl-F5 in many browsers. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:12, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    That didn't work for me either. -------User:DanTD (talk) 00:10, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing an Article/Error Message

    Hello,

    I recently worked on an Article for Submission that needed better references. I edited the article and references, and tried to submit a new version. Here is the error message I received:

    WARNING: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Schüttler Waske Tennis-University is 7,026 bytes. If it is not a redirect with only 1 edit in its edit history, this may be a "copy and paste" move. To avoid losing the edit history, administrators should consider merging the history of the AfC draft into this article. Non-administrators should consider placing {{histmerge|Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Schüttler Waske Tennis-University}} at the top of this article before removing this AFC submission template.

    I think I need to change the title to the specified URL, but I do not know how or how to assure the article will be reviewed for publishing. Is there a way you could make the necessary changes and make sure it can be reviewed?

    Here is the URL for the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sch%C3%BCttler_Waske_Tennis-University that I wanted to replace http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/The_Sh%C3%BCttler_Waske_Tennis_University&action=edit

    Thanks! Amreisenauer39 (talk) 14:24, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I have cleaned up by deleting Schüttler Waske Tennis-University and moving its page history to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Shüttler Waske Tennis University. When you are ready to resubmit, use the "Resubmit" button in the box at the top. See Help:Referencing for beginners for how to make references. They should be placed where they are used. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:58, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Personal bias

    I added new development in one of existing article but that is deleted by other contributor, we discussed on talk page but seem that contributor is biased. How can we resolve the dispute?--Ali aff (talk) 17:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Please read the policy on dispute resolution. I assume that the article is 2008 Mumbai attacks. Please be careful to avoid edit warring, as you have already been warned. If your dispute is with one editor, the next step could be third opinion. If, as it appears, the dispute is with multiple editors, a possibility would be a Request for Comments. Please be careful to avoid edit warring. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:24, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    title of the article on me is in an unhelpful form of my personal name

    Current article name: "Kevin McFoy Dunn." This was supplied by the person who originally put the page together (and with whom, I'm sorry to say, I'm no longer in contact, he having, I hear, decamped to Venezuela), but it has dawned on me that, all of the works in my recorded oeuvre having been issued under the name "Kevin Dunn," the current name in principle makes it most extraordinarily difficult for anyone researching me for whatever reason to find me on Wikipedia. I don't suppose some helpful and expertise-laden mover-editor with a little time on her/his hands could take the 20 or so seconds required for someone who knows what s/he's doing to fix this up (adding in the process the triply- if not quadruply-necessary disambiguation note) for the utility of historians and other such idle folk? Thanks. / K.McF.D. 24.99.207.2 (talk) 18:19, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    But the article Kevin Dunn already exists. So, the only option is Kevin Dunn (musician). Ruslik_Zero 18:45, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I have redirected Kevin Dunn (musician). Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:38, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    How to add a reference

    Hello there,

    I recently created a page on here and then I attempted to add a reference so as my page would not get removed. However, I had issues doing this. I am unclear on whether or not you can refer to another Wikipedia page, I had trouble setting it out and then citing it. Could you give me a few tips please? Thank you in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by APEfc123 (talk • contribs) 19:09, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    The mentioned page Fiona o'carroll has been deleted because you blanked it. See Wikipedia:Notability (people) for requirements to get a Wikipedia biography. The reference said:
    <ref name="test"> [http://https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imdb.com%2Fname%2Fnm0639983%2F&ei=2Gr1UcSrDKj17AbcooHQDg&usg=AFQjCNHv8TD6sN5IrmhRsxGqPBrdCyaLNA&bvm=bv.49784469,d.ZGU] </ref>
    This had many problems.
    1. It wasn't displayed because the code {{reflist}} wasn't at the end of the article. See Help:Referencing for beginners.
    2. http://https:// is an invalid start of a url. Say either http:// or https:// but not both.
    3. https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imdb.com%2Fname%2Fnm0639983%2F&ei=2Gr1UcSrDKj17AbcooHQDg&usg=AFQjCNHv8TD6sN5IrmhRsxGqPBrdCyaLNA&bvm=bv.49784469,d.ZGU is a Google redirect to another page http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0639983/. We link the actual page and not some redirect at an unrelated website. In this case we wouldn't even have allowed the Google redirect to be saved as a clickable link.
    4. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0639983/ is about the subjects father. The subjects own page is http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2681255/.
    5. http://www.imdb.com, the Internet Movie Database is not considered a reliable source by Wikipedia and should generally not be used as a reference per Wikipedia:External links/Perennial websites#IMDb.
    6. The reference was unformatted so it would have looked poor even if it worked. A minimum of formatting would be adding a title, for example with [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2681255/ Fiona O'Carroll at the Internet Movie Database] which produces: Fiona O'Carroll at the Internet Movie Database. We also have a purpose template (intended for use in an external links section and not references). {{IMDb name|2681255|Fiona O'Carroll}} produces: Fiona O'Carroll at IMDb.
    Other Wikipedia articles are not allowed as references.PrimeHunter (talk) 20:53, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Bad multi-image or bad browser?

    Is it just my browser or is there something wrong with the multi image templates on British American. I am seeing three of the boxes (history section, American icons, ) with huge amounts of white space and one a couple words of text. Rmhermen (talk) 19:46, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    It looks fine to me in Firefox 22.0. What is your browser? Does it change anything to log out? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:18, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I am on IE10 and what I see looks like this:
    History
    [edit]
    Early
    British
    emigration
    [edit]
    The British
    diaspora
    consists of the

    with the box taking up the rest of the page width. Rmhermen (talk) 20:22, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    The boxes look fine when using Chrome but the two headings have vanished (2 History

    2.1 Early British emigration). Are the heading visible in Firefox? Rmhermen (talk) 20:29, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    In Firefox at default zoom the two mentioned headings are hidden behind a row with the 4 US maps. I didn't notice that before. If I zoom out with Ctrl+- then the headings become visible but with 3 US maps in one row with some blank space to the right, and 1 US map in a below row. In IE9 everything looks right with default zoom, both multiple images and all headings. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:40, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    So is there any way to improve the performance of this template across various browsers? Rmhermen (talk) 15:47, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    That can be discussed at Template talk:Multiple image which already mentions some browser issues. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:52, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    New page patrol for user talk pages?

    I was looking at User_talk:APEfc123, and there's a link at the bottom to mark the page as patrolled. Is this link supposed to appear in user space and on talk pages? I looked at Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol and it only discusses patrolling in Article, Image, and WP namespaces. RudolfRed (talk) 20:48, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I wonder if this may be related to something that's happeed to my sandboxes? In the last day or so I have received a few notifications (via the RDOD) that some of my sandboxes have been "reviewed". When I looked at the page histories there was no trace of any activity other than my own. Who does these "stealth" reviews and why? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:46, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    From the page history, click "View logs for this page" and then "Show patrol log" to see who did it. Even sandboxes might have to be deleted as advertising, attack pages or copyright violations, so all this effort by DragonflySixtyseven (talk · contribs) is to be commended. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:34, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    video

    When trying to play a video under the lightning entry, the window where the video is to be seen has a note at the top, "For a better video playback experience we recommend a [ HTML5 video browser]." Then nothing happens. I look up HTML5 video but don't see a link that will install it in the browser. What is going on?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.84.152.14 (talk) 21:05, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:24, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I disagree. I think the user is asking about WIkipedia video that says it won't play unless you have an HTML 5 browser. I asked a similar question awhile ago. It turns out that HTML 5 is not the requirement but rather support for some specific video format. Here's my question and the reply. RudolfRed (talk) 21:35, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) I presume you are referring to the video at the beginning of the Lightning article. The note refers to your browser being out of date in that it does not support our latest video format. See HTML5 video#Browser support. Bottom line: update your browser. --  Gadget850 talk 21:39, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    How can I avoid the dreaded "CONFLICT OF INTEREST" tag by Wikipedia editors - which I understand?

    I would like to see Herbert J. Mols with his own Wikipedia "Bio" page as do thousands of other people do. He should be recognized for his contributions to Amateur Athletics: a founder of the NY Empire State Games, Executive with US AAU basketball (25 + years), Executive with the US Olympic Basketball Committee, Manager of several US State Dept Goodwill tours in the 1960's and 70's, Resident Manager of the 1970 Eastern European tour to the Soviet Union, Finland, Estonia (where he is mentioned several times in the recently written book by the Estonian Sports Museum), President of the Niagara AAU for several years (Track, Swimming, etc.), Manager of the 1971 US Men's Pam Games basketball team, 1972 Manager of the US Men's Olympic basketball team, & Manager of the 1974 US Men's World Basketball Championship team. He also will be inducted into the Greater Buffalo Sports Hall of Fame in late October, 2013 (http://buffalosportshallfame.com/13-greater-buffalo-sports-hall-of-fame-inductees-unveiled/), etc.

    Regards,

    Gary Mols Shawnigan Lake, BC (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GaryMols (talk • contribs) 21:08, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    You should use WP:RA to request an article if you have a conflict of interest. RudolfRed (talk) 21:55, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    You should look at Wikipedia's criteria for articles about people. The question is very simple: are there newspaper and magazine articles about Herbert Mols? Is his life discussed at any length within a book? If yes - and keep in mind that "mentioned several times" does NOT count - then yes, he probably qualifies to have a Wikipedia article. But if his name is just mentioned in articles and books - dozens or hundreds or tens of thousands of times - without someone say "This guy is important enough for us to write at length about him", then - sorry - he doesn't qualify.
    The most persuasive case you can make for a Wikipedia article is to prepare a list of newspaper and magazine articles, and books, that do meet the WP:BIO criteria. If you can do that, you can probably find someone here to write a Wikipedia article. If, on the other hand, all you can provide is a resume (as you have, above), then the chances are much less that an experienced editor is going to volunteer to research what has been written about Herbert Mols. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 04:40, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    page curation, temporary page move

    I'm working on cleanup of the New Pages Feed by page curation. There are two pages that cannot be curated due to a bug in the software; pages whose name starts with a period don't show the page curation toolbar. The pages are .44 Remington Centerfire and .223 Wylde. The bug is Bug 50023 - Unable to mark certain articles as patrolled, and it has not been fixed. I'm wondering if it's possible to move the pages to a temporary name, mark them reviewed, then move them back. I'm concerned about possibly messing up redirects or talk pages. JanetteDoe (talk) 22:39, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I would say to just ignore those pages for now. Don't move them just so you can mark them as patrolled. When the bug is fixed, you can mark them. RudolfRed (talk) 23:05, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    July 29

    Credit Card on your front page.

    How do I go about getting a Credit Card with the company listed on your front page. I work for Clickbank and have had nothing but problems here in Canada. They will not allow pay to be put onto credit cards. They will not recoqinise this method of payment which has caused nothing but problems. I want the Credit Card on your front page this will give me access to the company I work for and help make life easier. You must make sure though that the credit card will work as a Credit card in Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.146.136.121 (talk) 01:25, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:27, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    What versions of the Bible can be quoted?

    I am interested in helping update a Christian page but am uncertain about which Bible versions can be quoted on Wikipedia. One website said NIV and NKJV can be quoted up to 500 and 250 verses respectively so long as this doesn't constitute 50% or so of any article, however I also remember seeing something on Wikipedia (which I now am unable to find) that said I can't use these versions on Wikipedia. Please give me a list of all Bible versions that can be used on Wikipedia, or direct me to the page where this is posted. Thank you Andolan1 (talk) 01:58, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Please read WP:NOT - Wikipedia is not a collection of information. It would not be acceptable to add a large number of verses to any Wikipedia article - this is an encyclopedia.
    As for what can be quoted, that depends on whether it is still copyrighted or not. The New International Version (NIV) Bible and the The New King James Version are both still under copyright, so quoting them is only allowed to the extent that this is fair use. Certainly quoting one or two verses, in a particular Wikipedia article, is fair use. Quoting 250 verses - even if appropriate here, which is not the case - would not be fair use. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 04:31, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    For context, I believe the editor may have been looking at something similar to these copyright notices for various bible translations. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:44, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Most certainly, I am not intending to quote large portions of the Bible, because this is an encyclopedia, indeed. However I've seen ASV being used and I've gleaned that ESV is PD. Thanks for posting the link, the discussion there implies that other versions such as NIV can be used within the publisher's copyright permissions. So I'll go with that. Thanks. Andolan1 (talk) 01:48, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    not able to open my favourite wikipedia articles saved in arabic text...text get converted to garbled text...this has happened after loading M.S op system xp

    Dear sir,

    i have a great collection of wikipedia articles saved in arabic text on my computer. My computer was reecntly formatted and M.S op system-XP was loaded again. I am not able to read any of my wiki articles saved in Arabic text any more; it shows garbled text. i and the computer technician who helped to format my computer tried hard to rsolve the problem but to no avail. Please help if you can.

    Thank and regards

    Qaat - Abu Dhabi/UAE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.99.189.144 (talk) 02:45, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    If the articles were downloaded from Wikipedia, you can just download them again, yes? -- John Broughton (♫♫) 04:21, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Check the "character encoding" settings of the browser that you use. --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 12:36, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:TAFI on the main page

    I thought that WP:TAFI is suppose to appear on the main page on Mondays. I don't see it.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 04:01, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    It was removed, see Wikipedia talk:Today's articles for improvement/Archive 5#Failure, though I don't remember it as being Mondays-only. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:35, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 13:45, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    To kill a mocking bird the film

    In the plot you have that mr Cunningham gives Atticus finch a bag of potatoes. I'm actually in the middle of the movie for the hundredth time or so and mr Cunningham gives him a bag of hickory nuts not potatoes. I don't know if anyone else would find this useful but I just thought I would share.

    Thank you LeAnn Noles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.138.19.31 (talk) 05:58, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi there, thanks for bringing this to our attention but seeing how this is your first edit here at Wikipedia a welcome! is in order. Couple of things on how this all works, we are all volunteers usually with a passion or expertise & sometimes both so anyone and everyone can join and be WP:BOLD in making constructive contributions that have Reliable Sources. That said you may wish to start on the articles talk page and discuss it with other Wikipedia editors if you are unsure of how to edit a "live" article, thou some editor may eventually look into this for you we also wish to let users such as yourself learn more about Wikipedia and hopefully even join the community. Quick aside, it is usually good form not to use a full name here for a variety of reasons. Once again welcome! Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 06:57, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Posting a note ("New section") at Talk:To Kill a Mockingbird (film) would be the best way for other editors to know that the Wikipedia article has an error in it. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 16:06, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk page of a redirect

    G'day all, I encountered a talk page of a redirect which had a WikiProject banner on it. What is the appropriate course of action, converting the talk page into a redirect to the talk page of the target article, or just setting the class of the talk page to redirect? (or something else...). Thanks, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 08:26, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Can you point us to the article or page in question? We can go from there. Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 08:42, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Talk:15th Mounted Brigade (United Kingdom). Peacemaker67 (send... over) 08:45, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Well just when you think you've seen everything on Wikipedia, interesting. First I'd place a redirect on that specific talk page to the talk page of the 4th (the article that exists on wikipedia), last option is just to blank it and tag it {{db-nonsense}} but depending on the coding and all I wouldn't try that at first since somehow the article redirect might be intertwined. Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 08:53, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, that was my first thought, but like you say, I thought I seen most of what comes up gnoming around in MILHIST, but Bazinga! ;-) Peacemaker67 (send... over) 08:58, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes quite a Fair Dinkum mate. ;-) Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 09:08, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Tascott

    Hi, I am the great great Granddaughter of Thomas Alison Scott. Your article on Tascott says he was married to Clare Scott. His wife's name was: Maria Anne. Her grave is in Tascott. I have the historical records to show that his wife's name was not Clare. If you search other websites you will find I am correct. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdscott57 (talk • contribs) 09:50, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    My searches say Mary Anne and not Maria Anne. I get no relevant Google results on "Thomas Alison Scott" "Maria Anne". I have changed the article Tascott, New South Wales to say Mary Anne. Thanks. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:14, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    adding content to a subject

    Hi,

    how do I add a subject to an exiting topic?

    how do I insert the reference?

    thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nettaedan (talk • contribs) 12:23, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    You have added content to the article diamond cutting. What you added appeared to me constructive and appropriate. However it was then deleted by another user, who did not give any reason for the deletion.
    How to insert a reference is explained in Referencing for Beginnners. Maproom (talk) 12:51, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi there, most of what you need will be at Help:Getting started including a few items down with the Help:Introduction to referencing/1, however what your asking isn't at all the most complicated things at wikipedia. To add to a "subject" (we call them articles) simply hit edit and it is pretty simple after that. To add a reference the bottom left of the box your in should have the <ref> </ref> tags you can highlight the pasted web reference and wiki will code it for you. If you wish to add something to the article that may be contentious or debatable it is best to check the TALK page tab at the top first to see if there is an ongoing or previous discussion about what you wish to add or you may simply add it to the talk page and see if there is a conversation of its merits over the next few days prior to adding the contribution. Welcome! Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 12:57, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Small request here. An editor recently marked a repeatedly-used citation in the article Richard Stengel as {{dead link}}. This is reference #6, a press release from when Stengel was named managing editor at Time magazine (note: although normally discouraged as WP:SPS, I believe this press release is used appropriately). The easiest thing would simply to be add an "archiveurl" parameter, like so:

    Archiveurl parameter for ref #6 in Richard Stengel
    |archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20060524022158/http://www.timewarner.com/corp/newsroom/pr/0,20812,1194937,00.html

    Last week I reached out to the editor who added the deadlink with a different solution, though he hasn't responded. Would someone here be willing to add the parameter and remove the in-line tags? I'd do so myself, except I've been making suggestions to the page on Mr. Stengel's / Time's behalf and, having this paid COI, I wish to follow Jimbo's advice to never directly edit pages. I hope someone can take a moment for this. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 13:30, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

     Done ~HueSatLum 13:42, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Awesome, and thanks also for the fast response! WWB Too (Talk · COI) 13:47, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    i am married after 2 and half years my wife has filed harassment and dowry case sec 498 502 and other secs not allowing me to see my daughter 3 yrs old We used to live in hyderabad and she is resident of nellore false chargesheet has been filed against me i was in jail i and my mother took bail and came back to hyd what is my status as father i and my widow mother are charge sheeted. I want to to meet my daughter and be with her pl guide me

    I am sorry but we cannot give you legal advice. You will have to consult a lawyer.--ukexpat (talk) 13:42, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Non-legal advice, see [1] and The Myth of Male Power, wish you the best with that. Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 04:41, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Article on Carol Friedman

    Dear Editors,

    RE: User:brooklyntrout/sandbox

    I have been doing my best to navigate the formidable maze with regard to creating an article. I have put together a temporary page in my 'sandbox' and wanted to be sure that thus far, I have done what I was supposed to do. It is my understanding that I am in the waiting period now, but wanted to ensure that I have been compliant with protocols and that there is nothing else I need do --for now.

    Thank you for your kind attention and advice..

    Carol Friedman

    Brooklyntrout (talk) 14:16, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I have cleaned up some of the formatting for you, but before you submit it for review, you will need to improve the references and do some work on the formatting of the references. Please take a look at WP:RS and WP:Referencing for beginners.--ukexpat (talk) 14:38, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    And if you are Ms Friedman, you should read WP:AUTO and WP:COI and consider whether you really should be creating an article about yourself. Rojomoke (talk) 16:57, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Requesting a page to be made

    How can I request a page made about Hampton Lillibridge, the person? Dawnnlsn (talk) 14:23, 29 July 2013 (UTC)Dawn Nielson[reply]

    Try WP:Requested Articles. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:25, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Why Delete a Draft?

    I'm new to Wikipedia, and trying to learn the rules. I created an article and submitted it to be edited, and it was subsequently deleted. I'm not sure I understand why an article in draft form would be deleted, as opposed to feedback given so the writer has an opportunity to continue working on it.

    Tkwalker13 (talk) 16:29, 29 July 2013 (UTC) tkwalker13[reply]

    I'm assuming your draft was Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Lifeline Program, which was deleted because it was a promotion. I can't see the text of the deleted page, but you could ask RHaworth (talk · contribs), who deleted the page, how you could make it less promotional. ~HueSatLum 16:36, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Here's a few starting hints: don't fluff up the article with cutesy stuff about meeting and feeding bears; don't call advertisements "educating seniors"; don't concentrate on marketing trivia at the expense of actual critical analysis of the product. And if you are connected to this company, for decency's sake disclose your conflict of interest up front! --Orange Mike | Talk 18:11, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Changing Username

    Hello,

    I want to change my username from Navienamericainc to Navien America Inc. with spaces between the words. I am new to wikipedia and am very confused on how to go about this process. Can someone please advise me on this?

    Thank you,

    Ally Moren Navien America Inc. (removed) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Navienamericainc (talk • contribs) 19:01, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    You should not have a username that is the same as your company name. The account needs to be for you, and you alone. See Wikipedia:USERNAME#Promotional_names RudolfRed (talk) 19:19, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Phone number removed. ~HueSatLum 19:26, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    How to edit a navbox

    Hello, I want to edit the navbox that appears when you type {{vaccines}} at the bottom of a page to include the article Autism omnibus trial, which I created. However, I don't know how to access the navbox so that my article will appear on every page that has this navbox on it. Jinkinson (talk) 19:20, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Never mind, I saw the little E in the corner. Jinkinson (talk) 19:22, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Non-free image

    This file that I've uploaded got recently tagged by a bot as being non-free use. I uploaded it because I was unable to find an image of Glacier Peak and Image Lake online that was free, and the view depicted in this image is very well-known, and is what Image Lake is famous for (see citations). I can't seem to find a suitable template for the image, however, and I was wondering if there is a suitable free-use rationale template for the image and, if not, if the image should even be uploaded at all. If there isn't any response to this, or there is no sutable template for the image, I'll probably request speedy deletion for it. --SamX‧☎‧✎‧S 19:34, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    It does not meet the WP:NFCC (#1 specifically) because someone could go there, take a picture and release it on terms that meet Commons licensing criteria.--ukexpat (talk) 19:40, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, and I've just tagged it speedy g7. However, I don't think I'll be able to take the image myself, so I'd appreciate it if someone has a private image of Image Lake that they could upload that also shows Glacier Peak. I'll file an image request shortly. --SamX‧☎‧✎‧S 19:54, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    My new pages?

    Where can I view the pages I've created? I thought there was some sort of functionality for this but I'm not seeing it.. all I'm seeing is the entries marked as "N" on the contributions page, but I'm looking for a one-stop shop to sort through all my edits. Thanks for your help. CaseyPenk (talk) 21:44, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    There is a link at the bottom of your contributions. Dismas|(talk) 21:50, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) There is an Articles created link at the foot of your contribution record. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:53, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh! Great. I was looking for the word "new." Thank you both. CaseyPenk (talk) 21:53, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easington,_County_Durham

    The funeral referred to at st marys church was that of my father a local man that lived in clappersgate (the street adjacent to he church) for most of his life,, the funeral was in June 2013 not may.,,, that of Mr Thomas Henry Bell, he worked with pit ponies from the age of 16. His hearse was pulled by two black stallions not one..

    You have my permission to use his name and to correct your information, makes for better reading,, immortalized on wiki :))

    Regards

    Thomas Bell jnr — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.111.82.182 (talk) 21:57, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi there, much appreciation for bringing this to our attention, first I would leave a note similar to this on the article's talk page since with the sands of time your comment will be lost to the Help Desk archives. Second although it may be illogical since you seem to be a witness to the event most everything we contribute here must have WP:RELIABLESOURCES so if there is a notice in the local paper or a web archive from a media source or government, even online news videos you can choose to be WP:BOLD and add the information to the article yourself and add the web link or news source details yourself. Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 04:38, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I can't find my changes

    I edited Attachment Theory, then got a "fasle positive" when I saved my changes. Now I can't find my changes and I didn't title them anything. Where can I find them so I don't have to do them again? N — Preceding unsigned comment added by NicoleLynLetourneau (talk • contribs) 22:31, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Your edit was blocked by an edit filter. Click "Contributions" at the top of any page and then "filter log" to get [2] where you can click "details". PrimeHunter (talk) 22:54, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, it appears the details link is only visible to admins. Give me a few minutes. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:56, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I have posted your changes to your talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:12, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]


    July 30

    Non Free image alert

    I do not actually know where to report this type of problem? Anyway a new user [3] is starting a portfolio of image related vandalism - including replacing pictures with large HQ files and uploading images of BLP's and passing them off as their own work, effectively releasing them into commons - despite the upload names matching file names when you click and save on a Google images search - you know the type "picture x 6757-87-00000.jpg"Rain the 1 00:34, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I see some editors or individually reverting them on the wiki articles, have you posted this at Wikipedia:Copyright_problems? (and yes of course there is a backlog there). Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 04:34, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Screwdrivers

    Why does your page on screwdrivers totally suck? Why does it fail to explain the reason for the success of the Philips screwdriver is ease of assembly because the screwdriver does not come out as it does with a slot screw. Why does it say that a Phillips screw can be turned with a flat screwdriver? This is a good way to destroy the screw, especially if you are trying to unscrew something that is rusted in and needs a lot of torque. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.130.121.108 (talk) 01:10, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Any complaint about the quality of an article can be resolved by improving the article, which you are invited to do, provided that your coverage of the material is not comprised of original research, is presented with a neutral tone and is backed by reliable sources. So the more direct answer for why the article sucks, is because you haven't yet volunteered your time to fix it. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:38, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Agree with Cyphoidbomb, you may wish to read WP:BOLD which will alert you to the fact that we are all volunteers and if you are passionate and have expertise on a subject than really why haven't you made a contribution of that knowledge to wikipedia? Just be sure you have WP:RELIABLESOURCES for your constructive additions to articles. Happy editing! :-) Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 08:20, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh and "totally sucks" isn't exactly the way you encourage other wikipedians to enlighten you on subject matter here, which is really what Wikipedia is all about. Perhaps it is your turn to pass your knowledge on by adding to articles instead of sitting in the popcorn seats. To quote TR: It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat. Once again, happy editing! Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 08:24, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    sam smith/sportswriter

    You have an entry on your wikipedia site about me. I write now for Bulls.com, but previously for the Chicago Tribune and have written books on Michael Jordan and have been honored by the Basketball Hall of Fame. But the entry you have has been a joke and inaccurate for several years. Now I find some of my publishers have been using wikipedia for biographical information of me. So I'd like to offer an accurate biography, assuming you would be interested in that. I'd cerainly hope so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.201.142.83 (talk) 01:36, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Put your requested changes on the article talk page with reliable sources. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:53, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Odd Image Discoloration

    File:Sally_Jewell_official_portrait.jpg, File:Newman%27s_Own_Logo_2013.jpg, and some other images have an odd discoloration. 173.73.64.153 (talk) 03:59, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    File:Newman's_Own_Logo_2013.jpg appears to be colored the same as http://www.newmansown.com/wp-content/themes/newman/css/img/header-bg.png on the Newman's Own website. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:45, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Not to me. The image is showing up in Negative colors in the first link and looks normal in the second link. RudolfRed (talk) 05:56, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]


    contributed - forgot refs - would like to correct

    I contributed myself "My Name" to "Eustis FL" and neglected to include <ref>CUNY retirees<ref> as a reference and verification - I'm 82 years old and have finally given up accessing FAQ's, info, instructions and Help. I would like to correct the entry and have it accepted - help?

    Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by BartJones (talk • contribs) 05:18, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm sorry but unless there is an article here about you, you shouldn't be added to a list of notable residents. That's the way those lists of notable residents work. When we say "notable", what is meant is people who are notable enough to warrant an article. Dismas|(talk) 07:12, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Agree with Dismas, thou we all are famous in our own minds you may wish to read Wikipedia:Notability instead of the "FAQ's, info, instructions and Help" you've mentioned. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a residence listing, social media site or community networking rolodex. Notability would require WP:RELIABLESOURCES, basically if I see you on TV, hear about you on radio talkshows and read about you in the newspaper then adding your entry to "Notable residents" would be something to explore. However WP:COI or Conflict of Interest would rule out someone such as yourself actually making the addition yourself, one or a team of wikipedians would actually discuss that and do it for you, of course after the Oprah interview and the TMZ scoop on you. :-) Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 08:01, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Change image

    Hi Im New to this, And I am an Instructor Of Rhee Taekwondo, Under Master Chong Chul Rhee. He asked me to change the image of his wikipedia article as he disliked the image, I tried to change it to one he approved of and it didnt work can someone help me. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatRTKD (talk • contribs) 06:37, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't see where you've uploaded an image. You must first upload the image (see WP:UPLOAD) and then it can be used in articles. Though, judging from the description you gave to the image you were trying to add, it would likely not be acceptable. Magazine covers can only be used if the magazine itself is discussed. And they cannot be used simply to illustrate the person on the cover for that person's article. If you have a photo that you own the rights to, you can upload it to Wikimedia Commons so that it can be used on all the different language versions of Wikipedia. (just uploading to the English version means that the file can only be used here and not on, for example, the German Wikipedia) Dismas|(talk) 07:07, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I see you uploaded File:Master Rhee Chong Chul in Action.jpg at Wikimedia Commons. You claimed it was your own work and you are the copyright holder. Did you take the original photo and hold copyright on it? If all you did was scan a magazine cover then it certainly doesn't give you copyright. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:49, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Requirement for Diploma People freshers

    Hai,

    Please write few things who are from a diploma back ground. Refer any fresher Dip(Mech) or BE,B.Tech(Mech) for MNC. For contacts catch me on the same port. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sashikopparam (talk • contribs) 06:41, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello there, you are at the general helpdesk of Wikipedia what you may be asking would be answered better at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities.
    Note I am having a very hard time understanding your exact question. I suggest you write out any abbreviations or acronyms such as BE, B.Tech and MNC which I don't have any idea what your speaking of. Also please go into detail on exactly what you need answered, is it how to get a diploma? What qualifications you need to apply? How one applies? Thank you and again Reference Desk Humanities is the better place for this question. Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 07:55, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Removing references

    The Dutch Wikipedia community has a weak policy on citing sources and users have reached consensus that only controversial facts need source references. User:Dqfn13 has previously removed references from an article I've edited on the Dutch Wikipedia. He has now started removing references from the same article on the English Wikipedia [4] [5]. I would like to receive help with this issue. – Editør (talk) 06:53, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi there, without investigating this at all first you should warn this editor at least twice but if he/she continues you may wish to leave notice at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents or Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 07:50, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi, this is no vandalism, this is removing citation that are not needed. WP:VERIFY states: Attribute all quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged to a reliable, published source using an inline citation. (bold by me) I don't think anybody will chalenge who's the director of a museum, and nobody will chalenge the location of that same museum, will they? I have not removed any other refferences as I know the English Wiki is more strickt with citations.
    Now, I am chalenging the source itself, as the source about the location is very reliable... but it is the contact page of the museum website... very reliable but it also smells like promoting the museum. This very same problem occured on the Dutch language Wiki. Dqfn13 (talk) 09:00, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Dqfn13, first if you wish to challenge a source it's best to discuss it first on the articles Talk page, not just delete the references from the article. Such a thing can be seen as acting without WP:AGF and yes can be viewed by many as vandalism. Second, it is encouraged a lot to add citations for such things as "director" etc. since those items have and will continue to be challenged for citations on Wikipedia, not to mention the sideways WP:BLP concerns it raises. As you should discuss on the article's talk page or even ask for a WP:3O you will find that using a source or citation that seems promotional when it is published by the subject of the article is not by itself forbidden and in many instances encouraged when balanced with other citations. Either way many editors will get the wrong idea about your intentions if you start deleting parts of articles without any notice on the talk page, most especially references or citations for those articles. Please attempt to work this out on the talk page or bring in a WP:3O, I wish both of you luck. Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 09:24, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, forget it... I'm not going to do it all over again, on the Dutch talkpage Editor was challenged by three other editors (besides me) and now he/she does it all again on the English Wiki. I'm not doing it all over. I've added my reasons both times in the summary, that should be enough. Editor acts like the article is his/hers, from this day on I don't care about it anymore. This source fot the adress of the museum... that's the contactpage... so instead of just giving the adress you can send an e-mail. That was one fo the reasons why it was removed from the Dutch article. I've not removed other sources for the theft even though they were challenged at the Dutch talk page... I've only removed refs I thought (and stil think) were obselete. Clearly Editor didn't listen to the others as he/she does exactly the same here. Be my guest, I won't bother you anymore, the article is all yours, maybe add some more refs so every single sentence has its source. Because that happend at the Dutch page too. Dqfn13 (talk) 09:54, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Should brief members of a band/group still be considered as 'former members'?

    Hi, guys. I just want to ask about Wikipedia's standards when it comes to articles about bands/members. So let's say two original members left and then the talent agency announces that two new members are added. Later on when the group gears up for a comeback single, those 'two' replacements are no longer there and have been replaced by three newer ones. So are the two previous replacements still worth being considered as 'former members?. They never really released any music with the group hence they didn't debut with them. Please help me understand.Masterpeace3 (talk) 08:06, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Is this concerning a currently live wikipedia article? If so discussing this on that band's article's talk page or the Wikiproject for bands or that genre of music might find you editors familiar with the ins and outs of band member listing consensus. If this band doesn't have a wikipedia article as yet we might have to go back a bit and understand if notability or WP:RELIABLESOURCES have been met. I understand your asking it as a policy question but the specific band would help, and thou I'm no expert on the matter the situation you describe I wouldn't think those members that released no music should be listed just as a matter of WP:COMMONSENSE a pillar above policies. Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 08:16, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm talking about this article here, F-ve Dolls. The members in question are Shannon & JiHyun but thanks for the reply.Masterpeace3 (talk) 11:36, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Do we have an impersonation warning template?

    User:81.178.244.213 just posted a warning on another editor's talk page and attempted to sign as Jimmy Wales. It wasn't a very convincing effort but do we have a warning template for attempting to impersonate another person for deception? Thanks ツ Jenova20 (email) 08:17, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Technically speaking isn't the reason Sock Puppetry is so wrong is because an editor is pretending to be someone they are not? I understand that it also has the whole IP component but the effect of what you are saying is the same, the impression is given that the edit is by an uninvolved 3rd party when in fact it is not. Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 08:27, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    And I'm sure you've already done the obligatory noticeboard postings Jenova20? :-) Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 08:28, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I haven't posted on any noticeboard other than here since i wasn't sure how to handle this. Thanks ツ Jenova20 (email) 08:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Checking out the user ID and the contributions it seems to be just a random thing for now, it may die out on its own. If this was me I wouldn't feed the trolls but use your best judgment on elevating it with either a message back to the IP or a noticeboard alert. Too often a few individuals get their jollies by counting how many wikipedians were involved in their banishment so ignoring them for a day might actually work much better, but again depends exactly what he/she is going to do next. Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 08:36, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    As suggested above, leaving it for a while may be the best solution; if it continues, however, it is in contravention of Wikipedia's signature guidelines. Per WP:SIGFORGE, "Never use another editor's signature. Impersonating another editor by using his or her username or signature is forbidden. Altering the markup code of your signature to make it look substantially like another user's signature may also be considered a form of impersonation. Editing the code of your signature to link it to another editor's user page is not permitted." I hope this'll help you if you need to take it further.  drewmunn  talk  08:39, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I think i'll leave it. It's not worth the aggro this morning of learning which noticeboards to go to just for a bad impersonation. Thanks ツ Jenova20 (email) 08:44, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Add Logo to Company Page

    Hi Team,

    I would like to upload logo and display it on company page. Kindly help.

    Page under review: Market Simplified www.marketsimplified.com

    Regards, Market GoMobile — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marketgomobile (talk • contribs) 09:00, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I fixed the title for you, also please remember to end with ~~~~ so we can all see who you are (your signature). For the answer to your question you might find Wikipedia:Uploading images most useful. Once the image is at Wikipedia or Commons the coding is pretty simple on the actual article, just be sure it meets fair use by checking at Wikipedia:Non-free content. Good luck and happy editing. Market St.⧏ ⧐ Diamond Way 09:14, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    working on tattoo removal, added pics, need quick help with 2 specific things

    1. how do i re-size gallery images (bigger) -- found the commands for gallery-sizing, still need to fix the filename conflict! Lx 121 (talk) 10:56, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    2. how do i get wikipedia to use this pic http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Postop.jpg INSTEAD OF this pic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Postop.jpg

    pls reply asap, i'm "live" & would like to get this completed

    Lx 121 (talk) 10:13, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    It's not possible to display a Commons image when there is a local image with the same name. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:03, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    What PrimeHunter said. One of the pics will have to renamed. I suggest the Commons pic since the EN pic goes better with the name of "postop". Dismas|(talk) 11:06, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Radio Voice of Russia

    Hello! My name is Christina Silinieks, PR-manager of radio "Voice of Russia". On the pages of our language radio in the encyclopedia "Wikipedia" is available outdated information about the company, as well as on broadcast frequencies. We would like to fix this, how can we do this without having to make a "conflict of interest?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siliniek (talk • contribs) 11:18, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Begin a discussion at the article Talk page at the bottom of the page. Specify what material you think the article should include. Bear in mind Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not the internet. Topics such as the stations history are encyclopedic. Advertising or how-to instruction is not. - LuckyLouie (talk) 11:57, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Renaming article

    Hi, it's been suggested that 2013 Mitake, Yamaguchi spree killings be renamed. But what could be an option, I don't knnow English perfectly. Should we already name Kozei Homi? (the alleged perpetrator) in the article's title? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Japanesehelper (talk • contribs) 12:29, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Hardware used by voicemail producers

    Hi I would like to ask which hardwares do Voicemail producers use

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