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    Filter 54 — Pattern modified
    Last changed at 22:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

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    Last changed at 18:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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    Set 491 to disallow[edit]

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


    I think 491 end ! To disallow 128.234.101.4 (talk) 10:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Wouldn't be against it, though warn seems to already be working fairly well. Basically, I see the technical accuracy, but not the necessity of setting it to disallow. EggRoll97 (talk) 20:36, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would support disallow in this case, as it seems to be doing its job pretty well and we want this junk out of our articles. – PharyngealImplosive7 (talk) 01:15, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    Edit filter helper for Codename Noreste (third nomination)[edit]

    Codename Noreste (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)(acc · ap · ev · fm · mms · npr · pm · pc · rb · te)
    There are 4 days, 1 hour, 36 minutes and 14 seconds until the earliest closure. (refresh)

    Hello, everyone. This has been a few months after my failed nomination back in February, but after I have addressed your concerns seriously, I am requesting the edit filter helper right again. But this time, I now intend to assist with writing filters using my basic knowledge of regular expressions.

    I have proposed additions to filter 936 (hist · log) (implemented by Suffusion of Yellow via email), and I have written and requested updates on 1292 (hist · log) (a global filter that tracks 1292's target was implemented on Meta as 344 (Meta admins only)) and 1308 (hist · log) (both filters are maintained by Ingenuity except the global filter, in which that global filter is maintained by SHB2000 on Meta), and 1313 (hist · log). Given these filters' sensitive detection strategies, I do not intend to discuss their details on public or outside of the edit filter mailing list.

    With respect to account security and nonpublic information, I use a strong password and have 2FA enabled on my main account, and I have signed the confidentiality agreement for nonpublic information (verify).

    Thank you for your consideration. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 03:48, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Discussion[edit]

    Edit filter 53[edit]

    I'm just sending an FYI that one of my updates to this filter accidentally added a | at the very end of one of the string variables (it causes ALL edits to be flagged as a hit). It was caught and fixed two minutes later. Any false positive notifications regarding this filter can be closed as 'resolved'. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    And that, fellow users, is why EFMs are recommended to test their updates thoroughly before implementing said updates to any filter. There is the test interface in which admins, edit filter helpers and managers can access, or there's User:Suffusion of Yellow/batchtest-plus but you still need the same permissions to access that interface, just so that you can also use that script. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 16:55, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Should global abuse filter helpers have access to the private filter mailing list?[edit]

    Just another thought today, but because global abuse filter helpers can view every single filter on every project (whether public or private) including the English Wikipedia, I was wondering if we could at least give them access to the edit filter mailing list on lists.wikimedia.org. They might share some other private (including LTA) filters from other wikis, including non-content projects such as Meta. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 17:58, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    If they request it, I see no problems, but as far as I know they usually don't. EggRoll97 (talk) 20:07, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Edit filter manager has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. EggRoll97 (talk) 19:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    EFH nomination for PharyngealImplosive7 (second nomination)[edit]

    PharyngealImplosive7 (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)(acc · ap · ev · fm · mms · npr · pm · pc · rb · te)
    Link to my previous nomination (withdrawn).
    Pinging the admin who closed the last nomination: @0xDeadbeef.
    There are 5 days, 21 hours, 28 minutes and 14 seconds until the earliest closure. (refresh)

    Hello everyone. Back in February, I had my last self-nom for EFH. I was relatively new in general, and even newer to the edit filter space. As I've reflected on that failed nomination, I've tried to take in to account your feedback and I think that now I have a much more solid nomination.

    First of all, I have made about ~1100 edits to WP:EFFPR, and have tried to be as cautious as possible while clerking all reports, private and not. (as can be seen on xtools: [1]). I also have made numerous contributions to filters, such as helping to create the private filter 1313 (hist · log) (courtesy ping to @Codename Noreste to our conversation over email, before he sent the code we made together to the mailing list for further improvements), as well as the public filter 1298 (hist · log). I also helped create some regex for the private filter 1161 (hist · log) (to enforce WP:DADASAHEB). I've also made quite a few minor improvements to filters 54 (hist · log), 614 (hist · log), and a few others, but they all help catch unwanted edits that wouldn't have been otherwise. I believe that these examples can show that I have enough experience in regex that I can help author filters on this wiki.

    I know the responsibility of this user right and know the sensitivity of private filters. As a result, if I gain this permission, I will only discuss information about private filters on the mailing list. I also care a lot about security, and although I don't have 2FA enabled, I do have a strong password, so I think that is highly unlikely that my account will be compromised. I also have signed the access to nonpublic information agreement (verify).

    I thank everyone for their participation and feedback last time, as it helped me get a better sense for the gravity of this permission. Thank you in advance. – PharyngealImplosive7 (talk) 23:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Support[edit]

    Oppose[edit]

    Neutral[edit]

    Discussion[edit]

    1. Have you sent private filter regex updates to the mailing list or to an EFM?
    2. Do you intend to create a private filter that you can send to an EFM or to the mailing list?

    If so, please explain them in a non-beansy manner. Thank you. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 00:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    1. No. I have not besides for 1313. I only helped create thee other private filter I worked on, 1161. However, I do plan to do so in the future.
    2. Yes in fact! I have a few ideas kicking around in my head, but my most developed one is for BBB. – PharyngealImplosive7 (talk) 00:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • If you're willing to share, is there any specific reason you don't have 2FA enabled? While it's not a requirement for EFH (and isn't a formal requirement outside of interface admins), I'm curious to know if there's a reason, or if it's just that you haven't necessarily turned it on (I'm aware it's not available unless a steward activates the global group). EggRoll97 (talk) 18:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Yeah. I just haven't turned it on, because I haven't asked a steward yet to enable it. I don't really have a specific reason besides that I haven't done it yet, though if I get sesnitive perms like this one, I'll think about enabling it. – PharyngealImplosive7 (talk) 18:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Page protection[edit]

    I protected Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives/Reports for 1 day 3 hours due to persistent vandalism from multiple accounts. Ohnoitsjamie and other administrators, please feel free to lift the protection earlier at your discretion. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Good protection, but it looks like these diffs (Special:Diff/1233248166, Special:Diff/1233232866, Special:Diff/1233232682, and others with more than 100,000 text bytes added) will need to be revision-deleted because of disruptive Zalgo text. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 03:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Done. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 04:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Set 365 To Warn?[edit]

    365 unusual changes to featured or good content i think to warn 51.235.113.220 (talk) 07:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    What's the point of requesting changes to random filters and at the same time being disruptive elsewhere (in filter logs and edits)? This is the third time I've seen you do this (1st, 2nd), and while the second one resulted in a filter being set to disallow, your disruption does not seem worth it. – 2804:F1...13:E752 (talk) 08:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose I see no good reason for this change. Nobody (talk) 08:58, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose: no good reason provided. – PharyngealImplosive7 (talk) 14:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]