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Your repeated lies about me and my editing have gone way beyond a joke. Get a grip, grow up, stop behaving disruptively, and start by withdrawing your dishonest post at WP:3O, please. Sankura (talk) 22:14, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm unsure why you're behaving so belligerently. As I've stated repeatedly, I actually agree with your points on the Shostakovich article, but that reusing the header from his main article is a bad idea. No other page listing the compositions of a composer does this. What is required is a wholly new header dealing with the cataloging of his music, not his biography. I even encouraged you to write one yourself and provided a number of links to other composition list articles for you to use as models. Please, if you'd like to rewrite that section in such a way that would be relevant to the article at hand, I strongly encourage you to do so, and would be glad if you did.CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:24, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

I just wanted to say that I read through the discussion on Talk:List of compositions by Dmitri Shostakovich and was impressed by your patient attempts to try to work with the other editor. Schazjmd (talk) 23:31, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Honestly, I agreed with them: the article needed a new lead. Glad that they served as a catalyst to get that started, if perhaps not in the fashion they intended. Thank you for jumping into that debate and giving your perspective. Very appreciated.CurryTime7-24 (talk) 23:34, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for being far more patient than I ever could. I too thought they just copy-pasted the lead from the main composer article, and on top of having seen MANY composer work list articles with a simple lead like that (and not at all understanding what the supposed grammatical error was), it's why I reverted. Then they, as you noted, just acted with a very hostile tone which I which I just ignored them. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 05:20, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

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I kindly request that this decision please be reconsidered. My page was a quick translation of highlights from Sonoda's Japanese Wikipedia page. The fact that he has a substantial page in that language going back to 2005, as well as an article in Russian, and was designated by his nation as a Person of Cultural Merit would all be compelling reason to keep the article. Removing the article seems to me excessive. A "more citations needed" tag would have been sufficient. CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:26, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks for coming over. Why would you have Gloria with italics? Requiem. Magnificat. These words became English, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me stop by! :) You’re right. I guess the way I rationalized the italicization was that Poulenc’s Gloria is a musical work based on, but independent of the Gloria from the Ordinarium Missæ; therefore italics. But I’ll change them back in a bit. Thank you again and hope to chat with you again! ;)

Thank you! Musical talk today, birthday of a soprano singer who plays bass (pictured) and a cellist. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

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Mira Mendelson

Thank you for quality biographic articles such as Mira Mendelson and Tamaki Tokuyama, for removing irrelevant and pov things, for improving the list of compositions by Dmitri Shostakovich, - user who "lives for classical music", you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2515 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:33, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so very much for your kind words. They are sincerely appreciated. I’m glad to collaborate with editors like yourself for the sake of the music we love. :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 08:49, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you for another good one. Minor question: why is the date format md, while the composer's article has dm? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:33, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. And it’s just force of habit. I’m an American and typically write out dates in this fashion. It’s hard to “rewire” myself, but I’m happy to be corrected if needed. (⌒-⌒; ) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:57, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

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Date formats

Nothing personal at all, just please don't claim you are keeping date consistency when the dates were inconsistent... GiantSnowman 08:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

GiantSnowman, it’s fine. Just please understand that my use of citation templates forced that issue on me. Had you just told me politely what the matter was, I would’ve gladly fixed it. Had no idea until I looked at the diffs closely. Your edit summaries didn’t make it clear. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 15:58, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

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This is a last warning, if you continues your odd behaviour, you force me to make some serious report about you. Good day. --AvellanoAve. (talk) 00:33, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Crikey, AvellanoAve., you don't take a hint, do you? I was willing to give you a lot of leeway and not block you for a series of quite poor edits that I have just been going through, but, after seeing this post here (which I view as wiki-hounding), I have now just blocked you from editing for a short period. If you do not improve your approach to editing, I will extend this for any further infringements of our policies. You were warned; you continued, and you have inevitably been blocked. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:41, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

24 preludes

The move of the preludes is ok, but the reasoning is not. I believe that the opus was added to distinguish from the same composer's Op. 87. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Please revert my move if you prefer, I won’t mind. The way I saw it, 24 Preludes seems different enough from 24 Preludes and Fugues. However, I don't want to rub anybody the wrong way if there's a necessity for keeping the opus number in the title. So I apologize if my edit was considered bothersome. --CurryTime7-24 (talk) 08:16, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

I think we have a misunderstanding. Didn't I say that move was ok?? Just the reasoning (that there are not many 24 Preludes Op. 34) didn't seem to grasp what the intention of adding the Op. number was. Funny: I have a Shostakovitsch work on the German Main page today and tomorrow - they keep there DYK for 48 hours. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:27, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Oh, on The Gamblers! Actually was reading a lot about it last night while working on an article about an unrelated, but chronologically adjacent work of his. He eventually gifted the manuscript to Galina Ustvolskaya, I think sometime in the late 1940s. In 1974, after the successful revival of the The Nose, he asked to have the score back from her (which must’ve been awkward; she seems to have developed what can charitably be put as mixed feelings about her relationship with Shostakovich), which partially explains the extensive quotation of the opera in his Viola Sonata. Good article and DYK... er, S(chon)G(ewusst)! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 17:46, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Auk

If you really need that explained: because "more famous" requires some proof that the dodo is more famous than the great auk, i.e. a reference that explicitly states so, which I suspect would be hard to find (whereas the statement that the dodo "is famous" is trivially apparent from just following the article link, and if necessary very easy to source). --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 20:14, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

My friend, Elmidae—I think you have me mistaken with someone else. The only thing that I changed in the auk article was replacing “L. A.” with Los Angeles. Looking at the auk edit history, the change you’re referring to was not made by me, but by an IP user. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:18, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Oops. You are correct, I seem to inadvertently have undone your edit together with theirs in that revert. Sorry 'bout that! --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 20:30, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Re: Shostakovich String Quartet No. 10

Hi, thanks so much for your knowledgeable suggestions on the Shostakovich article. If you're keen to apply those edits yourself, that would be much appreciated I'm sure.

Zawinul lava (talk) 22:27, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I’ll get around to it this weekend. I just didn’t want to barge in and knock things around, especially as a lot of good work went into the article in recent days. Thank you so much for allowing this lifelong Shostakovich nerd to collaborate with you! :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:32, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

That's an absolute pleasure man, thank YOU for your input Zawinul lava (talk) 03:20, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

June thanks

Thank you for improving articles in June, with some impressions of places, flowers and music for you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:55, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Gerda, thank you kindly for the flowers. Your praise means a lot, especially so coming from an editor whom I admire very much. The flowers are always appreciated! :) --CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:16, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! I added: missing SlimVirgin, and RMF festival opening --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:09, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

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Armenian Language

Hi there,

I noticed you edited Shostakovich so I clicked on your user and saw that you speak Armenian. It was interesting to me to know where you learned because it’s rare. Are you from Armenia? Chocolate lyfe (talk) 09:07, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm not, but I might be in spirit. :) Honestly, I'm self-taught. I've used books I've found online, my own handmade flash cards, and videos on YouTube. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:24, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

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My language limits

Please, what's a "curveball". - Did you ever read that when wording a DYK hook I try to say something that can be said only about that particular subject, not also about thousand others? ... that I want to say something that tells something worth to be known to the millions of Main readers of whom only few will be tempted to click? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

A "curveball" is an American idiom derived from baseball whereby a process or device produces a startlingly different outcome than the one expected. And I get where you're coming from, believe me. I also agree with Naruto, however, in that at the very least just a bit of context would fix the issues with some of the ALTs. You and I may know how rare operatic performances are these days (although quickly becoming less rare, admittedly), but most people who can't tell Poulenc from poutine might need to be told why a 2021 performance of Dialogues des Carmélites is intrinsically notable. If you made an ALT that said something to the effect of "... that Giedrė Šlekytė the first post-pandemic production of Dialogues des Carmélites?", that would be splendid. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:13, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Past midnight, but at least I managed the third DYK nom of the day, sigh. Adding the post-lockdown bit to the article seems problematic to me, because then we would have to add it to all who do some post-lockdown bit, no? Tooo tired for more, so this will be another night I go to bed unhappy about that nomination which would have been so different if another reviewer had seen it first. It was such a joy, in many respects, to be at the performance! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm so very sorry, Gerda Arendt. I didn't mean for my input to add to the proverbial tire fire. If it's any help, I added two more ALTs to the DYK which I hope are more agreeable for you. Please get some rest and come back to it in the morning. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 23:04, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

ps: "post-pandemic", - really? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:50, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

I know... not accurate, to put it mildly. It was just an informal example I came up with on the fly. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 23:04, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

August songs

Understand, and just waking up, so haven't checked if N answered the question if mentioning the pandemic at all in the little room we have in a hook improved the hook. (I don't think so.)

Some stages of me leaving DYK, as something no longer taking what I'm fired to say, eating my limited time:

1. I proposed what I thought the perfectly composed hook: a name which is hooky itself, as saying "I come from somewhere unusual" + "you will not know if I'm a man or woman", then something about the familiar Mozart with the additional concept of "for children", adding sympathy, then the key fact that she conducted a great opera from the 20th century by a conductor with a FA at the opera house of the year 2020. We don't have to say all these things, they can find out by clicking.
2. Comes N saying we should rather say she was undecided when she was young. Well, who wasn't. In this "interesting to a broad readership" there's "interesting". How would that ever be interesting?? GA trying to stay polite.
3. After some debate, N. requests a new reviewer. GA is relieved.
4. Gr tries to help with ALTs, good intentions, but all with flaws, explained. N hovers over the nomination. Joy is leaving the place.

Instead of even more ALTs made in good intentions, you could just approve ALT0d. If you can't do that, you could at least strike support for ALT1. I'd rather withdraw - and possibly leave DYK - than say about a wonderful woman who did a great thing no more than that she was undecided in her youth. - Background: I told N and the world several times that I am short for time due to joy in real life. I postponed a RD (Peter Fleischmann) for so many days now that his death is no longer recent. I want to improve him still enough for DYK, feeling obliged after my first intention to bring him to RD. That will take most of the time I have today. After that: I'll look for ALTs to the rescue if still neccessary. I hate spending any time on useless discussions about the different taste for DYK hooks. When I composed a nice menu, I don't want to hear "but they want a burger."

We are in a pandemic, and should be kind to each other. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

You made my day, thank you! - Today: 3 DYK, including that the author dedicated a summer story to a license plate number ;) - enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:03, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

You’re welcome and thank you. :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:26, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Giedrė Šlekytė is on today ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Music for Lovers Only

Thanks for your amazing rewrite on Music for Lovers Only. I created this and other stubs on a large number of easy listening albums last year -- albums that were among the most popular of their day but which have been neglected by Wikipedians as they seem to be no longer appreciated by modern tastes. I have memories of many of these albums being played by my dad on his very "high tech" hi fi system in the 1960s. I enjoyed learning more about this one from your rewrite. Cheers. Cbl62 (talk) 14:47, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Do you object to my nominating the rewrite for DYK? Of course, if you intend to do so yourself, I will defer to you. Cbl62 (talk) 14:49, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

I happen to be a nut for easy-listening music and have an especial fondness for Music for Lovers Only. So it was a pleasure to expand the article. There’s a few more touch-ups I had in mind for it today. Hope you like those too! And, yes, I had a DYK nom in mind too! :D Thank you very kindly for your appreciation. Reading your comments made my week. :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 15:30, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Music for Lovers Only

On 7 December 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Music for Lovers Only, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Bobby Hackett said that Jackie Gleason's main contribution to the recording of Music for Lovers Only was that "he brought the checks"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Music for Lovers Only. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Music for Lovers Only), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Apology

I'm sorry for some of the language I used in my edit summaries on Death of Elisa Lam. I had meant to say this yesterday but my real life got in the way.

Having largely developed the article to its present extent since 2014 or so, I was sort of rubbed wrong by some of your edit summaries (This one seems not to completely AGF to me, and as for this one, I'd refer you to WP:3LA (Just think about that, and the effect it might have on newer editors). And with that many concerns, it's probably better to bring things up on the talk page first ... that's what I try to do in that sort of situation.

That said, you were on the right track anyway. A lot of what you removed and minimized, well ... needed that. In the wake of the poorly-received (but still highly rated, which drove up the traffic and edits on the article) Netflix docuseries back in February, I have to admit that a lot of what you took out actually was more recentist and made more sense to have in the article back in 2014 when it was less of a settled issue that her death was an accident (which, for the record, is what I believe now as well as the official conclusion ... I have made a lot of reverts to the article over the years of editors (usually IPs) who wanted the article to reflect darker aspects of the theories which are either largely speculative or not reported in reliable sources, which was maybe another reason I didn't take so well to your edit summaries). And in retrospect that stuff about the Cecil's past is less relevant today, as well.

I am also glad we seem to have been able to meet halfway on the lede phrasing ... I have insisted for years that it makes BLP1E work better if, when an article is not about an individual person, especially one not notable enough for their own article, but an event (usually their death or disappearance) that centers around them makes clear from the very beginning that it is about the event, not the person, to avoid any coatracking, even unintentional. (It still galls me that the article is not Killing of Chandra Levy but just Chandra Levy).

Anyway, once again, I did not conduct myself entirely the way I should have, and I am sorry for it. Daniel Case (talk) 20:31, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

My friend, it’s OK. If anything, I apologize and hope that you don’t hold it against me in the future. You did tremendous work on that Elisa Lam article and I’m honored that my contributions are useful enough to stand with yours. Thank you very much for your kind message. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:03, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Beate Ulbricht

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DYK for Beate Ulbricht

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Shostakovich

@CurryTime7-24: I've listed Dmitri Shostakovich at FAR. Wretchskull (talk) 16:08, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for October (Shostakovich)

On 21 May 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article October (Shostakovich), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that one music critic said that despite being "noisy, banal, fundamentally insincere", Dmitri Shostakovich's symphonic poem October was nonetheless "enjoyable trash"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/October (Shostakovich). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, October (Shostakovich)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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May songs

I knew it was by you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:26, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for more Shostakovich! - I like my talk today (actually mostly from 29 May - I took the title pic), enjoy the music, two related videos worth watching! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:28, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. Been very busy and my reply was slow, but please know that I did read them. Wonderful music too. More to come soon, hopefully. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:31, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Loyalty (Shostakovich)

On 26 May 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Loyalty (Shostakovich), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the "favorable comparisons of Lenin to Confucius, Buddha, and Allah" in Dmitri Shostakovich's Loyalty were said to have "achieved new levels of ludicrous flattery"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Loyalty (Shostakovich). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Loyalty (Shostakovich)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Dmitri Shostakovich mis-quote?

Reading through the article Dmitri Shostakovich I came across a sentence that as-quoted seems very odd, but might be simply one letter dropped in the quote? Your edit to Early career had:

But during those days, his pianism, sharply idiosyncratic and rhythmically impulsive, multi-timbered yet graphically defined, merged in its concentrated form.

I can't find the quoted book online but I have got to believe it really said

... emerged in its concentrated form.

Please pardon the doubt, but I've repeatedly come across quotes that weren't faithful to the source, sometimes laughably so. Shenme (talk) 03:47, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

It was a typo. Just checked Moshevish; Bogdanov-Berezhovsky said "emerged." Thank you for catching that! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 06:11, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Japanese for Korean Place Names

Hello thanks for the invitation to engage politely. Could you explain to me your viewpoint on why using Japanese is appropriate for Korean place names, with supporting materials? I am genuinely curious. 108.46.30.101 (talk) 22:01, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Between 1910–1945, Korea was an internationally recognized legal constituent of Japan. Because of this, Japanese readings of place names were promulgated and recognized for official international use during this period, although a few endured in popular use as late as the 1950s (e.g. Chosin Reservoir). Using these names in articles when chronologically appropriate to do so is no different than using New Amsterdam instead of New York City, Yerba Buena instead of San Francisco, Laibach instead of Ljubljana, Kuybyshev instead of Samara, New Archangel instead of Sitka, Mogador instead of Essaouira, Kiev Governorate or Ukrainian SSR instead of Ukraine, etc. My concern is not with utilizing Japanese place names merely for the sake of using them, but with chronicling history accurately.

Your edit summaries do not make me hopeful for understanding and respect on this point, but maybe you will surprise me. It is moot anyway. Although the history of colonial Chōsen (especially its musical and popular culture) is one of my areas of professional expertise, the belligerence, intransigence, and bad-faith of Korean nationalists and Korean pop culture nerds on Wikipedia led me to stop contributing any further to articles related to that historical period. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:10, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Schenker Article Talk

FYI There is more discussion on the Talk page of the Schenker article about Schenker and race. Klimt1973 (talk) 23:11, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

CurryTime7-24, I didn't really understand the purpose of the new section that you opened on the talk page of the Heinrich Schenker article. I presume that when you mention "the latest Schenker quarrel," you mean that on the talk page itself. I fear that reopening the discussion will lead to reopening the quarrel. What I think personally is that the section of the article on Schenker's view on race is not about what is claimed in its title, rather about the dispute between Ewell and the JSS:

• The papers in The New York Times and in The New Yorker (refered to also in the lead of the article!) are about that and not at all about Schenker's own views.
• What follows concerns some of the claims made by Ewell, not all of them about Schenker's views – his claim concerning the "whitewashing" does not concern Schenker himself.
• The quotations from John McWorther and from Kofi Agawu concern another point, Ewell's claim that a hierarchical theory (such as Schenker's) is racist; both authors answer in substance that most musics in the world are hierarchic.
• And the idea that Schenker's views "have drawn increased scrutiny in the 21st century" is not documented: there is only Ewell's own view and criticism against it. The scrutiny had been more active in the 20th century, despite the idea of "whitewashing."

The modern discussion concerning Schenker's views, if any, is mainly about whether his racism was biological or nationalistic, but the section says nothing of that.

I could repeat the above in the section that you created, but I fear that the reaction wouth come immediately. Wuddyathink? — Hucbald.SaintAmand (talk) 16:46, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Help with editing

Hi, do you think that you could add entries to disappeared people lists. I have my hands full with editing and can only do so much at a time. I would be very thankful for any help that you could give me. Davidgoodheart (talk) 17:23, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

TY

TY for all your edits on Karl R. Free — I’m doing my best but it’s a hairy topic. I had no intention to write this but I found the mention of him in the Laning article and it’s escalated! Anyway I appreciate the additional eyes and typing fingers. jengod (talk) 02:31, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Oh, hey, no worries! I hope my edit summaries didn't seem jerky. It's hard to convey levity sometimes in one of those. But, like you, I stumbled upon the article and popped in for a bit. Great work, by the way! :) — CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:41, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for On Guard for Peace

On 28 October 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article On Guard for Peace, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Sergei Prokofiev's oratorio On Guard for Peace has been called "Kremlin music" and "Stalinist era kitsch at its most egregious"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/On Guard for Peace. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, On Guard for Peace), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK nomination of Tahiti Trot

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DYK nomination of March of the Soviet Militia

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DYK for Tahiti Trot

On 18 November 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tahiti Trot, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Dmitri Shostakovich denounced his own Tahiti Trot, an orchestral arrangement of "Tea for Two", as a political blunder? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tahiti Trot. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Tahiti Trot), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for March of the Soviet Militia

On 23 November 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article March of the Soviet Militia, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "March of the Soviet Militia" by Dmitri Shostakovich was a "manifestation of conformity" that was "better not to remember"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/March of the Soviet Militia. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, March of the Soviet Militia), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Yuri Shcherbinin

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Thinking about Tchaikovsky

I'm still worried about Tchaikovsky. I fear it'll need a huge rewrite at some point—it's just not near the quality of our other composer FAs. Hugely choppy and messy life section (Childhood section is nine paragraphs???); pretty awful and surface-level music section; and barely informative Legacy section... Aza24 (talk) 19:09, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

I agree; it definitely needs some care. Would try a hand at it myself, except that I'm preparing to do a rewrite and clean-up of Dmitri Shostakovich some time in the next couple of months, once I get some time off. After that, I would love to collaborate on doing the same for Tchaikovsky. — CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:13, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Good to know, and I'm happy to help with Tchik as well (if that wasn't implied). Glad to hear you're still tackling Shostakovich; strange to me how little Taruskin is cited in it. Would be happy to held review in any capacity.

On a different note, I was happy to see your name appear in the edit histories of Bortniansky & Berezovsky—some of these SPAs and IPs are crazy! They had been edit warring for years it seems... but both appear somewhat stable now Aza24 (talk) 19:20, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

I hope that the cited sensible statement by Kirill Karabits may help to cool some heads on the latter article. :) CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:25, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

We will have to add Schnittke to our list after Tchaik... I think I might be obsessed with his 1st cello concerto Aza24 (talk) 21:35, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Harvey Shapiro (cellist)

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Sibelius

Please check out the Sibelius talk, where I asked "How many more RfCs do we need to call the infobox wars over? - I asked that a year ago, and I read the discussion again today in honour of his birthday, not without pleasure. Please check also User:Gerda Arendt/ACE 2022. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:39, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

It's fine! I honestly have no strong opinion one way or another. If anything, you convinced me to include them invariably in all my new or expanded articles. But a lot of people do have strong opinions on this issue; my caution on adding them to composer articles was out of deference to them. By all means, though, please feel free to revert me (if you haven't already) and give our boy Alfie an infobox and let him know "what it's all about." :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:38, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I won't revert, ever, per WP:BRD. I could go to the talk page - as for Sibelius and Cosima W. - but wouldn't, as for Solti (who was on the Main page, and I just failed to check who the authors were. I did for Schnittke, and saw none of the rather few who still have strong feelings against a little box). - I really wonder what could lead to peace on the topic. From what I've seen: if everybody just left feelings behind and edited normally per BRD, all could be fine. I make a bold edit, I'm reverted, I accept that or discuss - it could be rather easy. A little grain of "grant each other the presumption that we are acting in good faith" on both sides would help, I'm sure. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:29, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Concerto for Piano and String Orchestra

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December songs

happy new year

Thank you for your great expertise put into this article! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Many thanks for your kind words. I am glad that my vast knowledge of otherwise useless trivia can be of use to Wikipedia. ;) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:10, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Lovely response ;) - Thank you for the two below, and not trivial to me. - Can you perhaps support Wolf Erlbruch for RD (just above the other)? - I discovered Tchaikovsky's favourite opera yesterday: exciting! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:34, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Nevermind, Erlbruch is on the Main page now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:16, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Enjoy the season, dreaming of peace! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:13, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm hoping that Chirstmastide has brought you lots of joy too so far! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:38, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, thank you - we sang Charpentier's delightful Messe de minuit pour Noël today, a first for me, pictured, - Enjoy the season! - I wish you plenty of resilience with a reviewer who thinks people unaware of Shostakovich need to be taken into account when making a hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:33, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Such is life! :/

I was going to bring Pisarenko up with you. Starting tomorrow, I'll be adding any relevant and interesting information about her I can find from Russian sources. However, I would strongly prefer that you please look over my additions and devise your own ALTs from them. It wasn't my intention to hijack your DYK; I only added my ALTs because it had been requested of me. I agree that the ones I devised were more about Shostakovich than Pisarenko. Hopefully, what I add will serve her. She was more than a decoration embroidered into the lives of others. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:05, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, - we'll see. DYK and I don't go well together, or should I say one particular reviewer. I'll retire, or strike, whatever it may be called, but those I began I want to get to a good conclusion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

What you do expanding the article is just wonderful! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:33, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

More precisely: I believe you could go for GA with it, and possibly even FA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:40, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your kind words. Originally, I had just wanted to make some minimal additions—well, you saw how it turned out. ;)

I would like to expand the article further. There are a few sources which I have not used yet, more information relating to her biography and career. I'm also working on finding a copy of Sintovskaya's book, but this is proving hard. Importing books and music (or anything) from Russia was already difficult (months of waiting as one's packages traveled along the most bafflingly circuitous and unlikely shipping routes ever dreamed of); now it's pretty much impossible. Still, I'm hoping something turns up. When I'm finally done, the article will probably be around 5 times larger than where we started.

My only wish is for more time, or better put, two or three lives to do everything I want to do. After family, work, concerts, etc., what little time I have left practically dissolves the moment I try to grasp it. And then there are a number of new articles I'm planning for the next weeks and months. But I hope to return and give Galina Alexeyevna the final topping off she deserves by spring.

Thank you again for your kindness. :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:42, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Well said, especially "she deserves". My impression is that what you collected is already good enough for GA, so without further work and need of time, you could nominate, and see how it goes. The extra from awaited books are for FA then. March is women's month, and to see her with green decoration then would be quite pleasing for me (and Women in green). I wanted to expand Edita Gruberova to GA last year, and nothing happened, only DYK discussions ;) - Did you notice that Tchaikovsky is about to have an infobox? Would that prompt action on Schnittke, perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:15, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Angelo Badalamenti

On 14 December 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Angelo Badalamenti, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 22:36, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Yuri Shcherbinin

On 15 December 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Yuri Shcherbinin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that despite his distinguished family history, musicologist Yuri Shcherbinin told friends that "what matters most is what you are, not who your ancestors were"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Yuri Shcherbinin. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Yuri Shcherbinin), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

A Thank You

	Some Curry
	Thank you for helping on the Hammersmith article, it's one of my first articles and I really appreciate it! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 22:19, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome! Glad I could help with your wonderful article. And that curry looks delish! :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:10, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Harvey Shapiro (cellist)

On 20 December 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Harvey Shapiro (cellist), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that cellist Harvey Shapiro played at the 50th anniversary of his professional debut despite broken ribs and a torn muscle incurred from a fall a few days prior? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Harvey Shapiro (cellist). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Harvey Shapiro (cellist)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

-- RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

		Happy Holidays
		Hello, I wish you the very best during the holidays. And I hope you have a very happy 2023! Bruxton (talk) 18:28, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

D. Sch's no-nonsense response to fair criticism

Hi CurryTime. The same phrase is quoted in this part of the article (third paragraph), we may unify the translation and add a ref-. --Pablo Tornielli (talk) 13:06, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

January music

January songs

happy new year

just my mother's birthday - she introduced me to music --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Happy birthday to your mother! Hope you had a happy time. :) My own introduction to music was accidental, at age 12 by way of Webern and late Stravinsky. Love at first hearing, believe it or not!

Hope to get back to work on articles soon, but real life has been busy this week. Oof! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:07, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you today again for what you added to Pisarenko, and also to Volodymyr Kozhukhar as I discovered only now! I don't believe that her hook captures how great she was, but that seems to be just old-fashioned me. - My introduction to early 20th-century music was a Webern string quartet (in a youth concert, possibly age 13), which was a revelation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:22, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Back from vacation - Melitta Muszely died, RIP - the other story is 10 years old OTD ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:29, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your greetings. Hope you've been well. Concert life has been active here, but I might be the one person choosing to sit out "The Event" of the season (not a fan of the soloist).

Work kept me away from Wiki the past month, but now I finally have time to, uh, get back to work here. ;) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:50, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for that ;) - I tell my own stories now, today about two pieces we sang at church, today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:00, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Galina Pisarenko

On 12 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Galina Pisarenko, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that soprano Galina Pisarenko studied economics, English, and Norwegian at the same time she was studying to become a professional opera singer? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Galina Pisarenko. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Galina Pisarenko), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

-- RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Piano Quintet (Schnittke)

On 13 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Piano Quintet (Schnittke), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Piano Quintet by Alfred Schnittke has been called one of the most depressing pieces ever written? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Piano Quintet (Schnittke). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Piano Quintet (Schnittke)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 00:03, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Two years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:30, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

I disagree with the edit notice for your revert on Prokofiev. There is no "warning template", but a hidden notice. The notice doesn't "warn" or "urge" but request. It's a recommendation, no more, the result of a 2010 project RfC, and in no way binding. The first step to overcome the silly infobox wars is watching language ;) - We can do it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

February songs

my daily stories

My story on 24 February is about Artemy Vedel (TFA by Amitchell235), and I made a suggestion for more peace, - what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:16, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

today: two women whose birthday we celebrate today, 99 and 90! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:10, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Happy birthday! :)

Thanks for sharing your post abut infoboxes with me. I'm not invested in the debate one way or another, as you may know. Since late 2021 or so I've been including them in all articles that I've newly created or extensively rewritten. That said, I also believe the arguments made by editors against infoboxes are substantial, well-considered, and merit being heard. Out of respect for their views, I firmly believe that the inclusion of infoboxes ought to be debated on a case-by-case basis. If consensus favors including them, great. If not, great. Ideally, there would be a project-wide RfC to decide this issue once and for all. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:14, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

I am quite willing to listen to well-considered arguments, but those I hear most frequently are "redundant to the lead" which they are designed to be, and "inviting trivia" which isn't any more dangerous for infoboxes than other material, and needs to be dealt with. The ratio of debate to what is debated - often just additional five lines - is saddening, and to have the same arguments article after article hasn't improved editor relations. - All this isn't a matter of life and death - I just returned from a funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

I just saw your post for OK, shortly after I put his wife on my to-do-list for next week. Can we do that together? Do you have better sources than the German Wikipedia, perhaps? Next plan: the Hungarian who brought him to the Budapest Opera. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

I have the two volumes of the Heyworth biography and the Conversations with Klemperer. I seem to recall that the liner notes for some of the CD reissues of his EMI Brahms cycle mention his wife as well (who died in the middle of the recording sessions). Maybe one of the Testament liner notes also mentions. Have to look on my shelves. At the moment, I'm finishing up a vast expansion of Leo Sirota. Now I'm finally getting to his experiences in wartime Japan and postwar America. Hopefully, I'll be finished by Monday (PST), after which I can help out with Johanna Geisler :). CurryTime7-24 (talk) 23:14, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

March songs

my story today

Sirota looks great! - On IWD, I remember a 2016 DYK: Hana Blažíková, a Czech who sang German music in Japan. - I loved improving Mary Bauermeister - on the Main page until yesterday. - A recording session explains why she died in Munich, a place so far not mentioned in the article. Did they live in Budapest when he was at the opera there? Can't see such things in the sources I have. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Marek Kopelent died, and it's Saint Patrick's Day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

today we remember the 150th birthday of Max Reger, who saw the horrors of a world war right when it began in 1914, while others were still in high patriotic moods --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:44, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, Gerda. I hope you're well wherever you are. Reger... his music, which for a long time made no sense to me, is now very dear to me. And what a lovely title Pärt gave to his work! I'm swimming in Schoenberg's music for work at the moment, which is how Begleitungsmusik zu einer Lichtspielscene came about. God willing, I hope to have time to add more articles for him in the coming year, as well as Webern. I can't sufficiently express how profoundly I love their music. But there is still so much to do and they only give you so much time to do it all... :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:08, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

thank you! - sharing impressions from vacation on Madeira 20-30 March, pics now at 24 Mar from the peaks - your double DYK of piano student and teacher pictured today is lovely! - The Mozart RfC with the non-neutral invitation to fight was closed, and went rather peacefully - what can we learn from it? - I saw today that Brian Boulton added an infobox to Imogen Holst in 2014, edit summary "risk" - should it still be a risk in 2023 to follow his example? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:57, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Not at all. Carl Nielsen recently got an infobox. Change comes, however slowly. :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 17:02, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

how slow for Schnittke is up to you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:25, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind one for him at all. I'd add it myself, were it not for how contentious the issue is. Admittedly, this puzzled me at first many years ago, back when I only very occasionally dipped my Wiki-toes into the Wiki-pool, so to speak. Ideally, this matter with the infoboxes would be decided by a WikiProject Classical Music-wide RfC once and for all. It seems too much to have to fight it out composer by composer; the same arguments, pro et contra, again and again. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:19, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Until that once-and-for-all, which was demanded in the 2013 arb case, we will have to use our uncommon sense. I asked in the Sibelius discussion how many more RfCs we'll need to call the infobox wars over. From 2013, many composers got an infobox without previous RfC (which is against Wikipedia's principle of everybody can edit anyway). I gave Schnittke an infobox, you reverted, - your turn ;) - He could be in a league with Stravinsky and now Mozart. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:58, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Nagaoka Nobuko

On 16 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nagaoka Nobuko, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Japanese pianist Nagaoka Nobuko, a child prodigy called an "absolute genius", was killed in the final American firebombing of Tokyo? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nagaoka Nobuko. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Nagaoka Nobuko), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

		Hook update
		Your hook reached 7,532 views (627.7 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of March 2023 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:27, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Fujita Haruko

Hi Curry! (One of my favorite dishes btw.) I think the Fujita Haruko and Leo Sirota hooks can be combined into one, which might make them more interesting to the readers. What do you think...? If you don't like the idea I won't insist though. BorgQueen (talk) 16:13, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Hey there! I'm curious to hear your suggestion. The best Fujita hook is her ALT0, which I think would be the most immediately enticing to general readers unfamiliar with classical music. But if there's a better idea, I'm definitely open to them! :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 17:46, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

How about: ...that pianist Fujita Haruko (pictured), who was among the first 19 female students enrolled at the University of Tokyo, was taught by Leo Sirota (pictured), the "god of the piano"? BorgQueen (talk) 17:54, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

I like it! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:17, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

OK I'll be combining them into that double-hook then. @Cielquiparle, I'm letting you know. BorgQueen (talk) 18:24, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Instead of "who was among the first", suggest simply saying "one of the first" which is clearer. Cc: BorgQueen. Cielquiparle (talk) 18:59, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Done. BorgQueen (talk) 19:01, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

@BorgQueen On second thought, you could run into objections over "god of the piano" even though it's in scare quotes...we don't say it in wikivoice, etc. Solving for that could mean saying "Leo Sirota, once called the 'god of the piano'". Cielquiparle (talk) 19:57, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Rephrased a bit more. BorgQueen (talk) 20:29, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Fujita Haruko

On 31 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fujita Haruko, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that pianist Fujita Haruko, one of the first 19 female students enrolled at the University of Tokyo, was taught by Leo Sirota, who was once called the "god of piano" (both pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fujita Haruko. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Fujita Haruko), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Aoidh (talk) 00:02, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Leo Sirota

On 31 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Leo Sirota, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that pianist Fujita Haruko, one of the first 19 female students enrolled at the University of Tokyo, was taught by Leo Sirota, who was once called the "god of piano" (both pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Leo Sirota. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Leo Sirota), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Aoidh (talk) 00:02, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

April songs

my story today

Thank you! - My story today is about the Alchymic Quartet, - I went away from DYK but it's the last one from last year. - The songs are about vacation, continued. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:40, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

I loved to see Marian Anderson and her story of protest against discrimination by singing on Easter Sunday 9 April 1939 on the Main page yesterday. Impressions of Easter here and music here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:10, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

My story today, Messiah (Handel), was my first dip into the FA ocean, thanks to great colleagues. - a few pics added, one day missing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Today is the 80th birthday of John Eliot Gardiner. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:50, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the Schönberg Lichtspielscene - always disliked that it had no article but was too lazy --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:07, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Fortunately, I had a little extra time on my hands to work on it. As I've said, I'd like to do more for Schoenberg and Webern, but I only have so much time! As it is, I'm behind schedule, so to speak, on my newest article (non-musical this time). Currently listening to Fabio Luisi's new Nielsen cycle. Life-nourishing music. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 17:22, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

I listened to the same last night ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Monster Max

CurryTime7-24, will you be returning to this review soon? The nominator responded to your latest comments over a month ago now, though unfortunately they didn't ping you. If you're no longer interested in continuing the review, please ping me and I'll see about getting a new reviewer for it. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:47, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

I am interested. I'm sorry about that. Lost track of things and have been grappling with a bunch of problems that arose one after another last week. Please let me get back to the DYK tomorrow (PDT). —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 03:53, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response. There's an even more important issue at DYK: your nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Begleitungsmusik zu einer Lichtspielscene is weeks late for its QPQ, which should be posted within seven days of nominating, and absolutely must be posted within seven days of a review requesting it. (The request date was in March.) If you don't want your nomination closed, you definitely want to provide a QPQ right away. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:56, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset I'm willing to donate QPQs for Monster Max and the other one. Is it allowed? BorgQueen (talk) 05:49, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

BorgQueen, you can certainly donate a QPQ for Begleitungsmusik zu einer Lichtspielscene, which would satisfy the requirement. (Monster Max already has a QPQ that was completed by the nominator.) BlueMoonset (talk) 13:58, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset very well. Done. BorgQueen (talk) 14:09, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of On Guard for Peace

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article On Guard for Peace you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Mike Christie -- Mike Christie (talk) 14:12, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Begleitungsmusik zu einer Lichtspielscene

On 26 April 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Begleitungsmusik zu einer Lichtspielscene, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Arnold Schoenberg composed a film score to no film? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Begleitungsmusik zu einer Lichtspielscene. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Begleitungsmusik zu einer Lichtspielscene), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Aoidh (talk) 12:03, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Astonishing research, thank you so much. No Swan So Fine (talk) 17:44, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very kindly. Coming from you, an editor whose work I've long admired, your compliment is an extraordinary honor. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 17:18, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

erase of discussion

Well, it seems that I deleted the discussion instead of adding an answer. Sorry. By the way, could you explain how to change a title of a page, I'm afraid that I have met some Japanese nationalist-extremist who doesn't want to follow the processes (referring to the Tokkō article.) I am currently using an Android application which allows less possibilities than using Wikipedia on a computer. Thx Hanafunda (talk) 19:43, 1 May 2023 (UTC)