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how can I increase the default font size to read articles?
how can I increase the default font size to read articles? Judycrt (talk) 18:35, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- It depends which browser you are using, but most browsers use "Control +" or "Control and scroll forwards on your mouse wheel" (Control + 0 to return to 100%) - Arjayay (talk) 18:44, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Need help with deleted page...
2 days ago I read tutorials and created an account. I added a page about a living renowed photographer. I think I made the mistake of putting his name as the user...but the artist is not the creator of this page...today I receive an email saying that the page was tagged and deleted for looking like advertisement...after viewing other artists pages for guidandce, all I did was put in his curriculum vitae which has a short biography and after his career exhibits in galleries and museums.... I wanted to change the user name and sent a request...if I look up his name on google it shows that his page has been deleted...trying to learn about using Wikipedia, I took the adventure tour...and that is also appearing when I google his name...so...it's a mess. Can someone please offer help with this? Thanks so much. (Robert Weingarten 17:40, 26 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert I. Weingarten (talk • contribs)
- @Robert I. Weingarten: It's not unusual to make errors at the start, so be patient, especially with yourself. Wikipedia expects every editor to be an expert even when they are new, and we have all made mistakes. The best editors make the biggest mistakes at the start
.
- The best advice is to learn your trade before creating an article. We do this by editing other articles until we get the trick to it. However, if you want to start creating a brand new article, let me suggest that you use the Article Creation Wizard. Have a look at WP:AFC.
- The article that was deleted may well have looked like an advert. Wikipedia is not LinkedIn and is not the place to post a CV. What a biographical article needs is for the person to be notable, and to have that notability verified in reliable sources. A list of unreferenced achievements will not achieve that.
- If the gentleman is notable then he will have received significant coverage in national press. That style of verification is what is required here. Please read something like User:Timtrent/A good article which will set you on the right road.
- I am not competent to answer your username question. Fiddle Faddle 18:04, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- You created an article about Robert Weingarten on your user page, which is why it was deleted. Theroadislong (talk) 19:57, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your response!!! I will go slower and learn more about...there's just so much to learn and I thought I could make a page about this artist. This artist is notable and has received significant coverage in national press...I guess I need to learn how to write it and place it in a different way...I was starting to add links that verifyed his achievements...again thank you for your advise and if you know how I can deleted and vanish all information on this account and start fresh...Please let me know!!!!
- You created an article about Robert Weingarten on your user page, which is why it was deleted. Theroadislong (talk) 19:57, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Best, Robert Weingarten 20:24, 26 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert I. Weingarten (talk • contribs)
- Writing an autobiography is really not encouraged on Wikipedia, if you are notable someone will write an article eventually. Theroadislong (talk) 20:55, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- (e/c) @Robert I. Weingarten: Let me see if I can clear up a few issues. I take it from what you wrote above that you are not Robert I. Weingarten, but in error, created your account using the name of the article you wished to create. That's not an insurmountable problem but it will lead to anyone who reviews your edits thinking you are creating an autobiography (which is highly discouraged; see Wikipedia:Autobiography and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest) and is also unintentionally deceptive and disallowed (see Wikipedia:Username policy#Misleading usernames). So, on that issue, I recommend abandoning the account and simply starting over signing up with a username personal to you.
Second, and as noted above, a CV is not appropriate as a Wikipedia article and also raises a copyright concern. Though you didn't state whether you created the CV, the way you talked about it makes me think you copied and pasted Robert Weingarten's CV that he had created and that you had access to. This would be a blatant copyright violation, unless that CV was explicitly released into the public domain or under a free copyright license compatible with our licenses (in which event, using it as you did would still be plagiarism). It would thus have been deleted on that ground, apart from the promotional basis it was actually deleted under. You can use previously published material as a source of information by citing to it (though a CV is not the type of reference we seek—we want reliable, secondary sources that are entirely independent of the subject being written about) but you must write material here in your own words. There is one exception: you can use short quotations under the doctrine of fair use, but they must be marked as being the writing of another by the use of quotation marks, and all such quotations are required to be cited to the original source of the content using an inline citation.
So, to sum up, you can't continue using this account unless you are Robert Weingarten, and if you want to write an article about him under another account name, you must write that in a non-promotional manner, not copying any previously published material and that article should cite to reliable independent sources to show his notability and verify the content. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:58, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
How do I eliminate paragraph numbers from solely the third level of the table of contents?
G'day Guys My exceedingly long list needs improved presentation. List of Australian radio broadcast transmission characteristics I have floated the table of contents right, as suggested by Ariconte here, which is great. But the paragraph numbering at the third level takes away from the TOC rather than adding to it, since the section headings (radio station callsigns) are sufficent in themselves. Is there a way to suppress the paragraph numbering at the 3rd level? TIA Samuel.dellit (talk) 12:03, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- I have changed the URL in your question to a wikilink to improve the display. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:37, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Yep; stick the template
{{TOC limit|3}}
at the top of the page. Yunshui 雲水 12:07, 26 February 2014 (UTC)- If I read the OP correctly, the question was whether the paragraph numbering could be omitted at that level, rather than the TOC entries being omitted altogether. I'm guessing that there isn't an easy way of doing so? --David Biddulph (talk) 12:44, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- My bad, I misunderstood the question. There's no way that I know of to remove the numbering from the standard TOC, and I'm not aware of any custom ones that do that. It might be necessary to write a whole new template; above my pay grade, I'm afraid. You could ask the clever folks at the Village Pump Technical board... Yunshui 雲水 12:55, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks guys for your efforts, I'll take it to the Pump Samuel.dellit (talk) 21:41, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- My bad, I misunderstood the question. There's no way that I know of to remove the numbering from the standard TOC, and I'm not aware of any custom ones that do that. It might be necessary to write a whole new template; above my pay grade, I'm afraid. You could ask the clever folks at the Village Pump Technical board... Yunshui 雲水 12:55, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- If I read the OP correctly, the question was whether the paragraph numbering could be omitted at that level, rather than the TOC entries being omitted altogether. I'm guessing that there isn't an easy way of doing so? --David Biddulph (talk) 12:44, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
PDFs as validification for References
In addition to providing links to Websites and Wikipedia Enclyclopedia to support information in my article, I have included six links to PDFs that verifies the source of specific information. Will this present a problem with the approval process?Musicalind (talk) 17:39, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, Musicalind and welcome to The Teahouse. Are you saying the PDFs are what Wikipedia considers reliable sources, such as magazine articles or newspaper articles or books, and they just happen to be in that form? I'm not really familiar with the approval process but if that's the case it should be all right. On the other hand, if they're not the type of sources Wikipedia allows, that could be a problem.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:19, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter what format a source is in (it can even be offline!) so long as it is reliable, such as from a reputable news or scholarly organization. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 21:54, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- @Vchimpanzee: I believe the "approval process" to which Musicalind is referring is articles for creation. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 21:55, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- I appreciate that. I knew it, but I've never familiarized myself with how that works. I just saw a question that had not been answered and I knew part of the answer but wasn't sure if I was leaving something out.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 22:08, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hello, Musicalind. Looking at the draft Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Greg McKenzie, Jazz Pianist and Composer, I think you are referring to a number of references to onedrive. This appear to be scans that you (or somebody) has uploaded. The scans are almost certainly copyright violations, and it is against Wikipedia policy to link to such; so I have removed the links from your draft article. However, there is no requirement that a reference be online, just that it is to a reliable published source, and there is enough information that a reader could if they wished obtain the reference (eg through a public library). So the references are find without the links.
- Some of your other sources appear to me to be dubious (we don't normally link to a sales site such as theshowstore, or to a google translate link - references in other languages are acceptable as they stand) but I haven't removed them because because they are not in themselves copyright violations. Also note that when the article is accepted and moved to main space, the title will be simply Greg McKenzie: we only put extra information in the title to distinguish between different subjects with the same name. --ColinFine (talk) 00:04, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Need Help
I need help in this pictures Abdul_Khaliq_(Fastest_Man_of_Asia).jpg for Template:Non-free use rationale. I wanted know to this what is this. who can i change licence? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muntazir764 (talk • contribs) 12:57, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hello Muntazir, welcome to the Teahouse. If no free image of Abdul Khaliq exists or can be found, Wikipedia rules permit the use of a non-free (copyrighted) image of him in the infobox of the article about him. Currently, File:Abdul Khaliq (Fastest Man of Asia).jpg fulfills that role in the infobox of Abdul Khaliq (athlete). The image cannot be used on other articles. If an image can be found that is public domain or can be freely licensed, that free image should replace the existing non-free image. If copyright information can be found about the existing image (for example, details of the copyright holder) then the image details should be updated. Please let us know which aspects of this you need further information on. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:40, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Is it this edit which concerns you? In order to use that image in the article Pakistan, it would need to be licensed as a free image, which it is not. For it to be a free image, the copyright holder of the image would need to license it as a free image, for example by uploading it to Wikimedia Commons [1]. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:56, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- I uploaded this picture and because of picture captured by my ancester, i am copyright holder, When i uploaded the picture i did not know about the licence. Know i wanted to make it free to use so that it can be used on diffirente airtical. But the question is how to change the licence?--Muntazir764 (talk) 01:27, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Is it this edit which concerns you? In order to use that image in the article Pakistan, it would need to be licensed as a free image, which it is not. For it to be a free image, the copyright holder of the image would need to license it as a free image, for example by uploading it to Wikimedia Commons [1]. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:56, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Can't add an existing Catagory to article
When I try to add a category that already exists in Wiki (ie: "Private Community")to an article, the category name "Private Community" appears in red - not blue, and when I click on those red words it connects me to another Wiki page that states:
Category:Private community From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Wikipedia does not have a category with this exact name.
Yet, if you type "Private Community" in Wiki's Search Box, a category called "Private Community " appears.
Below is how I am trying to add the category "Private community": Category:Private community
Question: What am I doing wrong?
Thank you. Brian A96.54.9.173 (talk) 16:55, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse. There is an article named Private community, but not a category named Category:Private community. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:04, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- If you just want to link to the article Private community then write
[[Private community]]
. Categories are a different feature. Compare for example the article Community to Category:Community. See more at Help:Link and Help:Category. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:15, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Shortcuts
Is a regular user making a shortcut page (the WP:XXX type) okay? I honestly want a WP:UCR (Unexplained content removal) and have it link to WP:RMV for edit summaries. EvergreenFir (talk) 22:24, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hi EvergreenFir! Yes, absolutely (and as the page's direct initials, it seems to me to be a perfect shortcut). While it is good to be cautious and asking experienced users for advice is good and welcome, we are all "regular editors". There are some things administrators can do because of the extra tools they are given, but you need to put out of your mind that for most things on Wikipedia there are any restraints or thresholds one must meet, any litmus test that must be passed or permission required before acting. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:30, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- @Fuhghettaboutit: Thank you! EvergreenFir (talk) 03:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Raising a complaint about a user talk page page hosting a personal attack
Hi. Someone (an IP hopper) has posted a personal attack about me on another user's Talk page. This includes my name in the thread heading. I have twice politely asked the Talk page owner to remove this thread. They have refused. What is the next appropriate action please.__DrChrissy (talk) 23:30, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- If you are concerned about private information being revealed, you should contact the oversight team. Otherwise, you may remove the attack yourself.
(No one "owns" any page on Wikipedia.)If that fails (or it is restored), you can bring it up at the administrator's noticeboard for incidents. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 00:11, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hi. Thanks for this. It is not that revealing personal information is the problem. The IP hopper has made numerous accusations against me about editing, article ownership, lying, forming "gangs", personal research....etc. these are all unfounded - as I believe other editors would confirm. I suspect WP:ANI may be the way to go. Thank you for your help.__DrChrissy (talk) 00:32, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- I have made two comments on the user's talk page encouraging them to remove these attacks, DrChrissy. I regret that you are being treated this badly. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:33, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hi. Thanks for this. It is not that revealing personal information is the problem. The IP hopper has made numerous accusations against me about editing, article ownership, lying, forming "gangs", personal research....etc. these are all unfounded - as I believe other editors would confirm. I suspect WP:ANI may be the way to go. Thank you for your help.__DrChrissy (talk) 00:32, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Writing a new page
Hey there! I'm pretty new to Wikipedia and was looking to write a page about Overwolf. Now I will state here that I am biased, but I would like to write as neutral a piece as I can without advertising as I'm not interested in anything save writing the history of the company and software. What would be the best way to do so? I read that I can write it on a subpage and then request editors to help in making it "live" worthy but am unsure as how to do this.
I have indeed gone over guidelines and information such as WP:GNG, WP:CORP, and WP:NSOFT thanks to postdlf (spoke to him first) who had deleted a similar page written 3 years ago (not by me, I have no idea who wrote it) and have ascertained (to the best of my abilities) that the subject matter does indeed fit. I am mainly looking for advice on how to go about this as best and professionally as possible. Thanks for the help!
Raif1989 (talk) 09:42, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Raif1989. First up, you need somewhere to work on your draft; your sandbox, which can be accessed at any time from the menu at the top of each page, is as good a place as any. The best way to start writing such an article is to assemble all the sources you can find which:
- contain extensive coverage of Overwolf
- have no relationship to the subject
- meet the basic criteria of reliability for sources; i.e. published with professional editorial oversight.
- Stick links to these in your sandbox page. Once you've done that, summarise what the sources say (not what you know) about the topic, citing the appropriate sources as you go (see this short essay for some help with that). Once you've got a basic treatment of the subject in place, look at other, similar articles to get an idea of how the page should be laid out and formatted. You can then submit the article for review by adding the code
{{subst:submit}}
to the top of the page and saving it. Hope that helps, Yunshui 雲水 12:15, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback! I just have one more question, how can I add a logo to the infobox? I can't find how to upload the picture or add it. Raif1989 (talk) 08:25, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- In general, the company logo can't be added until the page is accepted as an article (i.e. not in your sandbox), unless the company chooses to freely license it, which would not be a good idea. Concentrate on getting the page accepted as an article first. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 09:11, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Adding categories
When creating a new article, is the originating editor supposed to add categories to the article or are these added 'automatically' in some way? Thanks. Melbourne3163 (talk) 02:28, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hey Melbourne3163. They are not added automatically so whoever happens upon an uncategorized or poorly categorized page should help out by adding appropriate categories, be that the "originating editor" or anyone else. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:36, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Many thanks for your quick and helpful reply. Cheers. Melbourne3163 (talk) 03:03, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Anytime.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:08, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Search images of Wikipedia, not Commons
I want to do this search to find image copyvios as a regular check-up. But all Commons images are getting included here. I want list of only Wikipedia images. Tito☸Dutta 07:53, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hey Titodutta. You can use Google. Limit your results to Wikipedia by using
site:en.wikipedia.org
; limit your results to files by typingintitle:file
. For example, this search. Of course, if you only want files that contain the exact phrase "Bengali actress", put that in quotes. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:06, 27 February 2014 (UTC)- It'll be excellent if we have an option in Wikipedia. Tito☸Dutta 15:00, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
User feedback boxes
I've noticed that some articles have user feedback boxes on them. I read the page about them but it was sort of unclear: do authors of article put them on the articles or is that something administrators do? I didn't see any clear instruction as to how to put them on articles, so I wasn't sure. Thanks! Bali88 (talk) 02:47, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the question - I learned something! It is an experiment applied to some articles. There is an extensive conversation at WP:RFC/AF about it. See the short and longer summary at the top right of that page. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 04:02, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks!Bali88 (talk) 04:35, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- I think anyone can add them, I certinately add them when I make decent articles to see what IPs and users think could be included. Thanks, Matty.007 17:27, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks!Bali88 (talk) 04:35, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
using a photo
I need some help, with uploading a file to the wiki, I already loaded it to creative commons. It will not show up as a photo, but just a file name in red. My father Carmelo zito, see his page, his photo.Apriv40dj (talk) 19:14, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- @Apriv40dj: Hi and welcome to the Teahouse. There was an typo in the file name, which I've fixed. The image should display now. On another note, it's important that that the picture was either 1)taken by you, 2)published before 1923, or 3)whoever did take it died over 70 years ago. Some leeway to this rule is provided to deceased people, but the image would have to be moved from Commons to Wikipedia in that case. Happy editing. --Jakob (talk) 19:57, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- This is my family photo was taken over 70 years ago. My father Carmelo Zito died in 1980. I did not steal this from the web. This photo does not exist online until I am adding it now. I have other photos, but I was not sure how many could be allowed in the entry. This one is the best basic sort of profile photo I could find. Apriv40dj (talk) 20:07, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Would anyone like to accept the correction of a spelling error?
I am not interested in editing on Wikipedia, but I do appreciate the program. It's quite amazing. If someone would like to correct the spelling of Helgoland, in the North Sea, it would help. It is currently misspelled as "Heligoland." The native German speaker sitting beside me would like to see it put right. The error is being assumed to be the correct spelling, and now appears on YouTube listings, etc. But this has to be the source. So there you are. Located in a description of German U-Boot (boat) bases in the North Sea.
Thank you. M. Schulzke 72.47.86.95 (talk) 20:34, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hello M. Schulzke. Heligoland is the accepted English language spelling, though "Helgoland" is the German spelling. As this is the English Wikipedia, we prefer the first spelling, though I'm sure that German Wikipedia uses the second spelling. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 20:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hi, welcome to the Teahouse. This is the English Wikipedia so we generally use English spelling. We also say Germany and not Deutschland. The English name is Heligoland but our article mentions the German spelling in the opening line. The German Wikipedia uses German spelling and has their article at de:Helgoland, but they mention the English spelling in both the opening line and at de:Heligoland. The English Wikipedia has a redirect from Helgoland to Heligoland so the article is easy to find for people using the German spelling. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Page creation of small lake
Hi all, I am currently creating a article for a lake a grew up on as a project for one of my classes and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for trying to find reliable references, pictures and what type of information to include. Any suggestions would be much appreciated, thanks! Krturchi (talk) 18:41, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Line moved here from another section of the page by ColinFine (talk) 22:50, 27 February 2014 (UTC):
- The article is called lake shenorock, still working on it. Krturchi (talk) 22:08, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hi. The best advice I can give is to look at articles that exist for similar lakes and see what information we have on those. One of the best articles we have on a lake is our article about Ganoga Lake in Pennsylvania. --LukeSurl t c 00:16, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Is This List List-Worthy?
Under book requests,(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Arts_and_entertainment/Literature/Books) somebody has asked to do a list of Harry Potter Characters with Alliterative Names. Is that worthy of an article or is it too specific? The Word Simplicity (talk) 23:49, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Common sense says this is way too specific (Wikipedia:Listcruft). --LukeSurl t c 00:05, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- And such a list has already been unanimously deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of alliterative phrases in Harry Potter. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:17, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
"Requested Article for profit companies"
Hi, I had requested for an article on the "Requested Article for profit companies" page few months ago. No response till now about the article on Speridian Technologies, though I had provided all the references and external links. Could someone please help?
Dakshina.maratt (talk) 21:28, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is a wholly volunteer project. No-one has any compulsion to create requested articles. There are thousands, if not millions, of tasks on Wikipedia that need doing (see Wikipedia:Backlog), and only a limited number of editors around to do them. --LukeSurl t c 00:11, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Are you independent of the company, see WP:COI? Does the company meet the requirements for Notability, see WP:CORP??? If both answers are Yes, then create it yourself. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 00:23, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Is page locked for editing?
My father's page Carmelo Zito. I wanted to fix a minor spelling error changing a typo from the letter n to the letter do, and I posted it and the reason, but it won't change. Over on the side is box with the name of his birth place should be oppido mamertina not oppino mamertina. I am hoping to make some future additions and I have more photos I can add if they are allowed. I have a book coming to me from amazon de Germany as I could not get this book before, so when it comes I will be able to site page numbers for various achievements. Can someone make this change in my page for me? I know I made a mistake in the photo earlier on, but I was not sure which link was correct to use. Apriv40dj (talk) 01:34, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hello. You seem to have successfully made the change [2]. If this is not appearing for you, it is probably a caching issue in your browser. See Wikipedia:Bypass your cache for information on how to avert this. --LukeSurl t c 01:45, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse! What you did was you modified the persondata for the page, and not the infobox. The persondata is a behind-the-scenes categorization tool that otherwise doesn't affect the look of the page at all. To get it to change in the infobox, as it is called, edit the field for "birth_place" in the {{infobox person}} template. When you hit the "edit" button, the template should be the first thing you see since it is at the top of the page. Hope this helps! --Mz7 (talk) 01:49, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing this for me. I learned what I did wrong. I thought that the side box was like the page properties instead of the text box. Apriv40dj (talk) 03:44, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
General question about Wikipolicies, etc.
Hi,
Do the policies and MOS for the English version of Wikipedia also apply, in principle, to other non-English versions of Wikipedia? I understand that there may be exceptions on specific issues due to differences between each language's grammar and usage, but the basic rules the same for all, right?
More specifically, would something like WP:MOSLINK also apply to all non-English language Wikipedias?
Thanks in advance - Marchjuly (talk) 01:10, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Not necessarily. Different language versions of Wikipedia are essentially independent "self-governing" entities. Some policies may be similar, others dramatically different - its all a case-by-case basis. --LukeSurl t c 01:48, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks - Marchjuly (talk) 03:56, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
I need help renaming a page
Im was editing a page until I accidentally renamed it, and it got stuck like that. Can someone help rename it back ! Gotenks96 (talk) 04:28, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hello Gotenks96. Your edit history shows that the only thing you've worked on, other than this question is Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Young Stunna, which hasn't been renamed. Were you editing with another account? Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:43, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
how best to cite meta-data in Wikimedia Commons?
I have used information from the meta-data of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Councilchamberskingstreet.jpg in the Wikipedia article Shire of Caboolture. Is there a standard way to cite Commons entries in Wikipedia? I have done a standard web citation but it looks pretty awful, surely the title can't be "File:Councilchamberskingstreet.jpg" (ugh). Is there a better way? (Note, I cannot find the same information elsewhere, so it is a case of "cite it where I saw it"). Thanks Kerry (talk) 22:20, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hey Kerry. There are a bunch of issues here. First, and I know here it was unintentional, but please see Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia#Copying from other Wikimedia Projects. In short, you must provide copyright attribution if you are going to copy text from somewhere else on Wikipedia, from another Wikimedia project, or from any freely-licensed source. The copy and paste of the image description text without any attributing and linking edit summary and without quotation marks was both technical copyright infringement and plagiarism (again, the context makes it clear this was unintentional; just keep it in mind from now on). You can go back and make a dummy edit to provide the missing copyright attribution.
As for citing a Commons image, you might look to here for an example. However, what you'll see is that the reliable source there is the image itself (a page from the 1910 U.S. Census). An image can be a reliable source. But the content from an image description page is not. Wikipedia is a wiki, and is not itself a reliable source. The same is true of the Commons. It's user generated content. See Wikipedia:Verifiability#Sources that are usually not reliable. What is needed here is a reliable secondary source instead. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:41, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- As I said, it is the only source information I can find or I would have cited something else. Kerry (talk) 23:19, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Then it needs to come out. How do you know the information is at all correct? When the fount of your information is "someone said it", which is all that source amounts to, that is no basis for an addition to an article. Bad information is far worse than no information. If it turns out it was actually correct, that would not resuscitate the source after the fact; it would not be a "look, see it was okay" moment, because this is institutional. We must follow the dictates of verifiability because the next similar instance will turn out to be wrong, and the damage will be done. Meanwhile, at least with no source we would have an unverified statement, rather than one masquerading as verified, with a footnote to a bad source. But you have stated you've looked, so verifiability has been tested and failed.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:06, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- As I said, it is the only source information I can find or I would have cited something else. Kerry (talk) 23:19, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
IP block
How can I ask admin for IP block? Aftab Banoori 10:54, 28 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftabbanoori (talk • contribs)
- Usually if an IP is vandalising repeatedly you would report them to Administrator's intervention against vandalism (AIV). However, if you're referring to the IP that made this edit, then there isn't enough evidence to block them - one (possible) instance of vandalism won't persuade an admin to issue sanctions. Yunshui 雲水 11:16, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Image upload struggling
Can I uploaded the image from http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/story/721171.html even though it is not a free image, but it describes some inmportant things. So can I upload it as non-free? Can I also upload some images from facebook? Please answer below by mentioning me or in my talk page for get me notified. Thanks. Sakib14 (talk) 09:29, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Sakib14. The answer I'm afraid is: no, no, and no. Whilst it is possible to use non-free images on Wikipedia in certain circumstances, the rules for doing so are extremely restrictive. In this case, I see no way that a fair-use case could be made for the image in question. Facebook images are also unlikely to meet the criteria for non-free use. Yunshui 雲水 11:23, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
new article deleted for lack of content
I recently wrote an article about feminists in the 1970s and their accomplishments. The article was immediately deleted for "lack of context". Okay, but how do I access my article (and all of the information + citations) I've already entered to edit the article and add the requested context? SDFeminist2.0 (talk) 05:24, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hello SDFeminist2.0 and welcome to the Teahouse. When I review your edit history, it appears that Anne Ewing is the only article you've edited, and that article hasn't been deleted. Were you possibly editing the deleted article with a different account? If so, please give us the deleted article's name, and we may be able to offer some advice. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:40, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hi SDFeminist2.0. If you're referring to Removing Sexism and Racism from Primary School Readers in the United States (the only article you've written which was deleted), I see that Cindamuse has already restored it to your userspace; it can now be found at User:SDFeminist2.0/Removing Sexism and Racism from Primary School Readers in the United States. Yunshui 雲水 11:28, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
how to use wikipedia
why am i get so confused on wikipedia. there is sandbox there is talk there is read create all jumbled up plz help me use this site more efficiently. I want to know if someone can help me on my articles. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Demi_lion/sandbox 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Demi_lion/Jpred
what is the difference between there location and functions both are my articles right but created in different way or location. Demi lion (talk) 20:54, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hello, Demi lion. Wikipedia is big and complicated, and it takes a while to get used to all the different features in it. There is no practical difference between the two locations: they are both subpages of your user page. You can have as many of these as you like, and it is conventional to call the first one you use "sandbox", though actually it would probably be more useful always to use the title that the article will eventually have as the subpagename (as you have for User:Demi lion/Jpred). Both your articles suffer from a lack of independent reliable sources. An article on Jpred might have a few references to Dundee U website, for uncontroversial factual data, and may certainly have a link to it in its "External References" section; but most of the information in the article must come from articles, books etc published by reliable publishers unconnected with the software or its developers: what other people have written about it. If these sources do not exist, then the subject is by definition not notable (in Wikipedia's special sense) and no article on it will be accepted, however it is written. --ColinFine (talk) 22:49, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hello, ColinFine. thank you for your help but it would have been better if i got a talkback message from you for this discussion.
i have made some edits to both of my articles will add refs
how do i add title to my sandbox article i.e. psipred. and if there is no difference between both subpages why is that they exist as separate. i mean the later one could serve the purpose.
i noticed that if i create articles draft in sandbox i can get to it using sandbox but that is not the case with later one i have to save link to get to it afterwards or am i doing something wrong. Demi lion (talk) 13:28, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- If you haven't saved a link, you can find pages which you have edited by using the "Contributions" link at the top of any page. In your case this will take you to Special:Contributions/Demi lion. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:56, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- If you want to move User:Demi lion/sandbox to User:Demi lion/psipred, the process is at WP:move. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:02, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Reflective reviews
In Mullum Malarum, the section " reflective reviews" contains modern day reviews of the 1978 film. Is that the best title the section have, or is it incorrect? Is there any better title for the section, if any? Kailash29792 (talk) 17:28, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- If you can think of a better title for the section, then go ahead and rename it. I don't think there's any manual of style or policy issues here. --LukeSurl t c 12:13, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- In fact, the James Bond articles The Man With The Golden Gun, For Your Eyes Only (film) and Licence to Kill have sections named "Reflective reviews" which seem to contain modern reviews of those films. Taking inspiration from them good articles, I named this section in Mullum Malarum as such. In that case, I think I think my doubts have been cleared. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:19, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
A question for Teahouse techies
Hi, in Twinkle WikiLove, when I go to give something, on the same pop out, I have a weird strip with three stars on, with the heading on the left 'Badges'. Is there some error? Thanks, Matty.007 19:43, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- You may have installed a script that modified WikiLove to allow it to give out Teahouse Badges. "Teahouse Badges" may be awarded to any Teahouse host or guest for great answers, questions, ideas, etc. Think of it like a barnstar, except for Teahouse-related awesomeness. For some reason, the strip is really big on my computer; it may be a bug with the script. Hope this helps. Mz7 (talk) 21:32, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- I have installed the script, what I was asking about is most definitely a bug. There is a giant strip going diagonally from left to right, with three stars on, which is, I presume, what you are seeing. Thanks, Matty.007 17:26, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- It's probably one for Technical 13. Thanks, Matty.007 21:23, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- I have installed the script, what I was asking about is most definitely a bug. There is a giant strip going diagonally from left to right, with three stars on, which is, I presume, what you are seeing. Thanks, Matty.007 17:26, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hello Matty.007 and welcome to the Teahouse! What you have done is copied the Teahouse WikiLove script to your common.js instead of importing the maintained script. Due to this, you are now victim to a recent change to the WikiLove extension. To fix this, you will need to replace ALL of the follow code:
var thisPageNamespace = mw.config.get( 'wgNamespaceNumber' );
if ( thisPageNamespace == 2 || thisPageNamespace == 3 ) {
mw.loader.using( 'ext.wikiLove.defaultOptions', function() {
$.wikiLoveOptions.types.badges= {
name: 'Badges', // name of the type (appears in the types menu)
subtypes: {
'Teahouse Welcome badge': {
fields: [ 'header', 'message' ], // fields to ask for in form
option: 'Teahouse Welcome Badge', // option listed in the select list
descr: 'Created a Teahouse profile', // description
header: 'Congrats... You created your Teahouse profile!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
text: '{{Wikipedia:Teahouse/Badge/Welcome|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>' , // custom text
},
'Teahouse great question badge': {
fields: [ 'header', 'message' ], // fields to ask for in form
option: 'Teahouse Great Question', // option listed in the select list
descr: 'For asking a great Teahouse question', // description
header: 'Congrats... You asked an awesome question in the Teahouse!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
text: '{{Wikipedia:Teahouse/Badge/Question|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>', // custom text
},
'Teahouse great answer badge': {
fields: [ 'header', 'message' ], // fields to ask for in form
option: 'Teahouse Great Answer', // option listed in the select list
descr: 'For giving a great Teahouse answer', // description
header: 'Congrats... You gave an awesome answer in the Teahouse!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
text: '{{Wikipedia:Teahouse/Badge/Answer|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>', // custom text
},
'Teahouse maître d badge': {
fields: [ 'header', 'message' ], // fields to ask for in form
option: 'Teahouse Maître d', // option listed in the select list
descr: 'For hosting as maître d in the Teahouse', // description
header: 'Congrats... You were an awesome Teahouse maître d!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
text: '{{Wikipedia:Teahouse/Badge/Maitre d%27|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>', // custom text
},
'Teahouse cup and saucer badge': {
fields: [ 'header', 'message' ], // fields to ask for in form
option: 'Teahouse Cup and Saucer', // option listed in the select list
descr: 'For helping keep Teahouse civil, warm, and welcoming for everyone', // description
header: 'Congrats... You helped keep Teahouse an awesome, welcoming, safe, and helpful place!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
text: '{{Wikipedia:Teahouse/Badge/Saucer|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>', // custom text
},
'Teahouse easter egg badge': {
fields: [ 'header', 'message' ], // fields to ask for in form
option: 'Teahouse Easter Egg', // option listed in the select list
descr: 'For sharing ideas that help make Teahouse better', // description
header: 'Congrats... Your creative suggestion made Teahouse even better!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
text: '{{Wikipedia:Teahouse/Badge/Easter egg|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>', // custom text
},
'Teahouse genie badge': {
fields: [ 'header', 'message' ], // fields to ask for in form
option: 'Teahouse Genie', // option listed in the select list
descr: 'For solving issues on the Teahouse Wishlist', // description
header: 'Congrats... You fixed the Teahouse just where it needed to be fixed!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
text: '{{Wikipedia:Teahouse/Badge/Genie|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>', // custom text
},
'Teahouse host badge': {
fields: [ 'header', 'message' ], // fields to ask for in form
option: 'Teahouse Host', // option listed in the select list
descr: 'For creating a host profile', // description
header: 'Congrats... You have joined a team of awesome helpers!', // header that appears at the top of the talk page post (optional)
text: '{{Wikipedia:Teahouse/Badge/Host|size=|signed=~~'+'~~|message=$1}}\n<br style="clear: both"/>', // custom text
},
},
icon: 'http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Rank_insignia_of_generale_di_divisione_con_funzioni_superiori_of_the_Alpini.svg'
};
} );
}
- With the following code:
importScript( 'User:Ocaasi/WikiLoveinstallscript.js' );//[[User:Ocaasi/WikiLoveinstallscript.js]]
- OR the following code:
importScript( 'User:Technical 13/Scripts/Teahouse WikiLove.js' );//[[User:Technical 13/Scripts/Teahouse WikiLove]]
- BUT certainly not BOTH. ;) — {{U|Technical 13}} (t • e • c) 22:00, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Also, Mz7, I've looked into your common.js as well. You are correctly importing the script. Ocaasi just fixed the script, and you likely just need to WP:BYPASS to fix the size of the icon for you.— {{U|Technical 13}} (t • e • c) 22:13, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Thanks! Mz7 (talk) 01:40, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- OK, thank you very much to Mz7 and Technical 13. Thanks, Matty.007 18:41, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Thanks! Mz7 (talk) 01:40, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Scholar and Also Participant
Starting in the early 1980s I participated in a series of collaborative performances and very early online literary experiments with a group called Invisible Seattle. I wrote an academic book about Invisible Seattle that was published by Unversity Presses of New England in the '90s. Am I allowed to write the "Invisible Seattle" Wikipedia page given that I am a both a scholar and a participant? Rob Wittig (talk) 17:42, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hello @Rob Wittig: Welcome to the Teahouse. Yeah, you can write about the "Invisible Seattle". Please check the subject against Wikipedia notability guideline for books. You are requested to read our Conflict of interest guideline and Plain and simple conflict of interest guide as you are a connected contributor. The article must be written in accordance with neutral point of view. Please note that failing notability might result in decline/deletion of the article. See, Your first article and How to write a better article for start-up. Optionally, You can also place a request for the subject to be created by willing Wikipedia editors at Wikipedia:Requested articles. Regards, Anupmehra -Let's talk! 18:13, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! This is very helpful! Rob Wittig (talk) 18:52, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Stub Tab
Is it OK for my articles to be getting the "stub" tag? I'm working on a bunch of articles in phases, I'm in phase one now, and I'm getting a lot of this "stubbing". KgLiberty (talk) 18:34, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, that's normal for an article that is short. It's not a problem, but if you want to work on an article in peace, you can work on a draft at Draft:Replace_with_your_article_title and then move it to the main body of the encylopedia when you're ready. --LukeSurl t c 19:23, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
The | symbol is not making a hyper link to the article
I have added something to the Murder of Carol Jenkins on the martinsville Indiana page, but the | I inserted are not making hyper links to the articles, but are appearing as plain text. I would also like to insert later on links to Hate Crimes and also Sundown towns if I can make this work. Apriv40dj (talk) 19:52, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Apriv40dj. Wikilinks are made with double square brackets like
[[Investigation Discovery]]
to produce Investigation Discovery. There is also something called a piped link with the pipe character '|'. See more at Help:Link. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:01, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Ok I will try to fix that now. Apriv40dj (talk) 20:04, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Carol Jenkins someone should start a page about her
I saw a documentary about sundown towns and there was a girl named Carol Jenkins who was killed wrongly as she meant no harm and she was only 21. The show was called the injustice files. I then looked her up and noticed she needs a wikipedia page because she is part of history and important.
I think you can watch the whole show here
http://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/injustice-files
and if some editor would like, they can find out a lot of info about her and her family is interviewed and they still want answers, so I think a page would help them and also document her life for history. Apriv40dj (talk) 17:32, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- @Apriv40dj: Anyone may create articles about any topic that is notable where that notability is verified in reliable sources. Why not read WP:AFC and start the article yourself? Fiddle Faddle 18:11, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
I have learning disabilities and am a very poor writer. Apriv40dj (talk) 18:13, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- @Apriv40dj: Neither of those things should discourage you. There are people who will offer assistance.
- Will another editor here point Apriv40dj at a mentoring project, please? Fiddle Faddle 18:22, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
I would hard also I don't think I have time to write a large article, I could try to start a stub, but that is also hard and I would have to cross reference to sundown towns article and I only watched the show once I did not memorize the show by watching it many times. I would like ideally, if I could email her parents and ask them if they have any objections, but it seems like they wanted her story out there. I just don't want to muff it up. Apriv40dj (talk) 18:49, 28 February 2014 (UTC) I am sure there must be ambitious people on Wikipedia looking for good articles to start writing. Maybe there is a list somewhere of suggested topics? Apriv40dj (talk) 18:51, 28 February 2014 (UTC) I just found she is listed under the name of the town, but she does not have her own page, so when I search her name, it does not come up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martinsville,_Indiana#Murder_of_Carol_Jenkins Apriv40dj (talk) 18:57, 28 February 2014 (UTC) I am writing up a short summary to add to this entry and I want then to be able to use the tv show as my source and reference. I hope it goes well. If it failed maybe some kind person could fix my mistakes in html, because I think her story needs to be heard. Apriv40dj (talk) 19:05, 28 February 2014 (UTC) I have added the information, if what I wrote is too long, some nice person could start Carol her own page with my information. I placed source two ways so people can be sure to find it. Please check and see if it acceptable. Apriv40dj (talk) 19:20, 28 February 2014 (UTC) I did not up the reference in correct, I guess this why some has removed my reference. I would like someone to go there install my reference in the proper format. It looks like I am making things up if one has not seen the show. Apriv40dj (talk) 20:11, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
How do I add the pictures
so every Wikipedia page has a short summary box to the right. How do I insert an image into it? Like the first one was something like: |image= How do I insert the photos into it? TheQ Editor (talk) 20:46, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- @TheQ Editor: Hey Q. I'm guessing this is about Vista Heights Public School. If so, the very best thing you could do is go take a picture of the school, upload the picture to your computer and then go to the Wikimedia Commons. Once there, under the "participation" menu on the left hand side of the page, click on "Upload file" and follow the instructions (you must be willing to grant a free copyright license to the photograph you took). Once that is done—you've uploaded an image of the school, giving it an intuitive name like "Front of Vista Heights Public School.jpg"—you can then add that image name next to the
|Image=
parameter in the article's infobox.Please note that hyperlinking to the image that is on the school's website, as you attempted in the infobox, simply will not work, and in any event, that image is not freely copyright licensed and would not be acceptable under fair use (that is, it would be removed and deleted if it was uploaded) as it is eminently replaceable. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:40, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you so much. TheQ Editor (talk) 21:43, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- You're most welcome.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:25, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Nickelroy is vandalizing by removing Namvistar Din photograph in Aurangabad, Maharashtra article
File:Massive crowd at Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar Marathwada University gate during Namvistar Din celebrations.png celebrations in Aurangabad.[1]]]
The source is supporting article. By removing Namvistar din photograph Nickelroy is harming Wikipedia. This is Vandalism.
The culture of India refers to the way of life of the people of India. India's languages, religions, dance, music, architecture, food, and customs differ from place to place within the country. The Indian culture, often labelled as an amalgamation of several cultures, spans across the Indian subcontinent and has been influenced by a history that is several millennia old. This definition goes similar to Aurangabad culture. Read culture of India for more details.
The editor is not interested in answering on talk page here but continuously doing edit warring. I have requested editor many times and also added the source with photograph but Nickelroy is doing edit warring.
- ^ "'नामविस्तार दिना'साठी विद्यापीठ परिसर सजला". Maharashtra Times (in Marathi). Aurangabad. Bennett Coleman & Co. Ltd. 14 January 2012. Retrieved 6 August 2013.
विद्यापीठाचा नामविस्तार झाल्यानंतर १४ जानेवारी हा दिवस आंबेडकरी विचारधारेतील पक्ष, संघटना, परिवर्तनवादी संघटना मोठ्या प्रमाणावर साजरा करतात. विद्यापीठ प्रशासनाने मुख्य इमारत व गेटवर रोषणाई केली आहे. गेटवर येणाऱ्या मंडळीतील अनेकजण बौद्ध लेण्यावर जातात. नामविस्तार दिनाचा आनंद साजरा करण्यासाठी आंबेडकरी जनता मोठ्या प्रमाणावर येते. त्यामुळे येथे राजकीय सभा घेण्याची प्रथा पडली आहे.English translation:After University Namvistar, the day of 14 January is celebrated by (political) parties influenced by Ambedkar thinking, as well as organizations, indeed radical organizations celebrate this day on a large scale. The University administration puts up lighting decorations on the main building and gate. The majority of Gate visitors go to Buddhist caves. To celebrate Namvistar Din Ambedkar followers visit in large masses. That's why political parties arranging the gatherings (here) have become a tradition. Note: Aurangabad city is surrounded by the Aurangabad Caves, Ellora Caves and Ajanta Caves.
JAIBHIM5 (talk) 08:52, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
- Both of you JAIBHIM5 and Nickelroy are edit-warring, and you need to stop. Nickelroy has given their reasons repeatedly in their edit summaries. You may disagree, but disagreeing with you is not vandalism, and I would advise you to stop throwing that accusation around. If the other party will not engage in discussion, Dispute resolution tells you how to proceed. --ColinFine (talk) 09:00, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
- JAIBHIM5: Nickelroy has replied on your talk page today. I repeat, the two of you have a content dispute, and dispute resolution tells you how to proceed. But I for one get annoyed when I see accusations of vandalism made for edits which are clearly in good faith. --ColinFine (talk) 12:34, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
- I am repeating myself that I have no personal reason to strike out the picture. But it really doesn't make sense to have a picture which is not a part of the Aurangabadi culture. You are repeating yourself JAIBHIM5. I really fail to understand how the source validates the use of the image in the cultural section. I invite people to suggest what can be done in order to end this dispute. JAIBHIM5 doesn't seem to be ready to negotiate. JAIBHIM5 please refer to Wikipedia:Negotiation before you make further changes. You have broken the three edit rule already. Lets try to solve this issue by Wikipedia:Negotiation, if not will have to take it to Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard as a last resort.
- Nickelroy is intentionally removing Namvistar Din photograph. I have stated reasons on Aurangabd talk page. JAIBHIM5 (talk) 21:21, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Why would I intentionally remove ? Nickelroy (talk) 01:23, 1 March 2014 (UTC)