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Articles for the WPCD project[edit]

WikiProject Soil needs to prepare an assessment of these articles. Furthermore, WikiProject Soil has the opportunity to identify additional articles of similar importance. -- Paleorthid 05:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

For article assessment, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Soil/Worklist. -- Paleorthid 21:05, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Article cleanup[edit]

Most articles under WP Soil need some level of cleanup. It seems somewhat uselesswould be overwhelming to tag and list them to the project. This is a problem throughout WP. See Wikipedia:Cleanup process/Cleanup sorting proposal for perspective. We need to formulate a manageable approach for WP Soils, identifying key articles and article clusters that need cleanup. -- Paleorthid 03:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I have hit upon using a Wikipedia:Worklist approach, which I am trying out here, using the WPCD candidate articles. -- Paleorthid 17:27, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Cross-classification issues[edit]

Soil types[edit]

Conflicting particle size criteria needs to be resolved and affects the following articles:

This comes out strikingly in the soil texture classification but it gets worse - there not shown are differences within the countries depicted between agricultural/pedological sytems and engineering/geological systems. Suggestions for in-article solutions are needed. These solutions should anticipate the addition of additional country/application specific criteria beyond the current content.

  1. Is there a world dominant soil textural classification system?
  2. Will WP need an article for each grain size classification system?
  3. Does it sort out better if engineering and ag/soil science systems are kept separate?
  4. Should disambiguation be considered as an alternative to in-article solutions?

-- Paleorthid 18:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC) revised -- Paleorthid 19:17, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Is this project specific to soils or soil science? The name would imply the former, but the content implys the latter.
In the US engineering world, there's two major classification systems: USCS is commonly used in geotech, AASHTO is common in highway engineering. The differences are:
  • gravel/sand boundary: USCS puts it at the #4 (4.75 mm), while AASHTO puts it at the #10 (2 mm).
  • silt/clay boundary:USCS puts it at PI = 0.73*(LL-20), while AASHTO puts it at PI = 10.
AASHTO defines anything larger than 3" as a boulder. USCS calls things between 3" and 12" cobbles and greater than 12" is a boulder. Both use the #200 (0.075 mm) as the sand/fines boundary. AASHTO groups soils according to their quality as a subgrade, USCS groups them according to their composition.
I don't know anything about non-US classification systems.
Anyway, I think that there's not a lot of overlap in the ways that soil scientists and engineers view soils. There's not even much overlap in the way that geotechnical engineers and highway engineers look at soils. The former are mostly interested in response to long duration loading (years), the latter are mostly interested in response to short duration loading (milliseconds).
As far as how boulders, cobbles, gravel, sand, silt etc. are defined I don't really care. These are fuzzy concepts, and while I've never come across the Wentworth Scale in professional practice it seems as good as anything for the purpose of wikipedia. If the definition is really important (e.g. to meet some construction specification), folks shouldn't be relying on wikipedia anyway. Toiyabe 21:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
I think Toiyabe's question needs to be answered before you get too excited about details of classification. Most articles will have a specific focus, either towards soil science, or towards geotechnical engineering, or towards geology, and the appropriate system to use will depend on that focus.
Even within articles, it won't generally be necessary to stick to one standard - I've only used a standards-based soil classification once in the Geotechnical engineering article. The article on clay says " typically less than 2 μm", then goes on to define clay in ways which don't depend on classification systems used by engineers. Argyriou 00:41, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you both for the observations. -- Paleorthid 01:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Argyriou, what classification system used by geotechnical engineers defines clay particles based on size? Toiyabe 14:55, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
How can you write this article if you don't know what you're talking about? The difference between clay and silt is the structure of the material. It's easier to use sieve tests to define the particle size and use that as a reference for how much fine grained material there is in the soil. It appears that many of you have a shallow understanding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:40, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Soil taxonomy[edit]

There is no soil taxonomy article, but it is directly addressed in the following five articles.

Content coordination is haphazard. There are numerous articles on individual soil classes that add to or are affected by the resulting confusion. Examples:

Any objection to having separate articles for each class within each system? -- Paleorthid 18:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC) As far as soil orders go, they appear to have been taken care of quite nicely, however a few of them need to reference the fact that this is the US system of soil classification. Siltloam (talk) 20:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Standard layout w/ infobox needed[edit]

U.S. State Soils[edit]

Do we need a standard content structure and/or infobox for US state soils articles? -- Paleorthid 18:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Soil Taxonomic Classes[edit]

Do we need a standard content structure and/or infobox for soil taxonomic classes? -- Paleorthid 18:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


Any objections to requesting a soil-stub? See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Soil/Needed and Wikipedia:WikiProject_Soil/Stubs for candidate articles. -- Paleorthid 18:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Related stub structure indicates that a discipline-oriented soil-science-stub is needed more than a resource-oriented soil-stub. Comment from Toiyabe pertaining to grain size classification amplifies this distinction. A list of candidate article stubs and article-specific rationale supporting a soil-science-stub is noted here. See here to discuss the active proposal for the soil-science-stub. -- Paleorthid 19:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
The request for a soil science stub has completed a 7-day review period. I will move forward to set up the stub and supporting category: {{soil-science-stub}} & Category:Soil science stubs. -- Paleorthid 14:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

SI units[edit]

SI units are used in describing soil characteristics relevant to USDA soil taxonomy, 1938 USDA soil taxonomy, FAO soil classification, and the World Reference Base for Soil Resources (WRB). This is per established covention for these systems, but if you have a different understanding, please give us a shout here. See brown earth for a recent example of the typical SI/non-SI revert dance that has been occurring. -- Paleorthid 04:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

See this in the Manual of Style for supporting guidelines. -- Paleorthid 20:56, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

redirect soils retrogression and degradation to land degradation[edit]

Without the response I was hoping for to previously stated concerns, and with the new article on biorhexistasy now stable, soils retrogression and degradation should now be redirected to land degradation. Any objections to this approach? -- Paleorthid 19:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Merger avoided, see article talk. -- Paleorthid 15:32, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Definition of soil[edit]

I reverted the project's working definition of soil.

  • The original:
  • The revision I reverted:
    • Soil as in the geological material on land surfaces that has become friable by weathering and subsequently modified by biological activity so as to contain discernable quantities of soil organic matter. The process is described as pedogenesis.

I appreciate the effort to help out, but still find the original to be a better definition, and one that has served the project well up to this point. Why do we need to change it? -- Paleorthid 04:11, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Consider links to the Seafriends soil section[edit]

I've spent much time researching soil and its various aspects in relation to its degradation and consequent ill effects on the sea. It has resulted in a large section on soil and all of its aspects, in a form suitable for teaching at school. It includes many diagrams and references too. It may be beneficial for the Wikipedia soil group to consider links to:

  • Understanding soil dependence, geology, ecology, sustainability, erosion, conservation, glossary (155pp)

Suggested headings to place this link: soil, soils, soil_classification, soil_functions, soil_fauna, soil_degradation, soil_type, soil_biology, soil_ecology, soil_conservation and so on.

Seafriends is a non-profit charitable organization for saving the sea. Feedback appreciated. Floor Anthoni 01:21, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

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Wikipedia Day Awards[edit]

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:52, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


Somebody needs to create an article, or a section of an article, about "shingle" as it is used for a soil type or landform or whatever it is in geology. There are dozens of articles which use that term, but nothing to link it to. There is nothing at the disambiguation page at Shingle. Maybe a shingle (geology) or shingle (soil) article with the appropriate disambiguation, or a redirect from that to a section in some other article, something short enough so that people can remember it to add it as a link. Gene Nygaard 14:05, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Scope of project - does it include life?[edit]

Hello all, it's a rather long story why I'm asking this, but I was wondering if WikiProject Soil would encompass the Earthworm article? I'm incredibly hesitant to make the decision on my own, as if I'm wrong it would be a rather slippery slope (including all soil-dwelling lifeforms).

If this isn't the case, would anyone happen to know of a project in which Earthworm fits? Yours is the most applicable one I've been able to find.

Thanks in advance! --Nemilar 05:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


There is a stub article for pedotope which was created as part of a project on ecological land classification and its related terminology. I was surprised to find a project on soils. Can someone here please expand this stub article and make it worthy? BeeTea 00:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Soil article discussion[edit]

If anyone still watches this page, there is a discussion at Talk:Soil which is desiring additional participants. – Basar (talk · contribs) 22:53, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Notice of List articles[edit]

Page(s) related to this project have been created and/or added to one of the Wikipedia:Contents subpages (not by me).

This note is to let you know, so that experts in the field can expand them and check them for accuracy, and so that they can be added to any watchlists/tasklists, and have any appropriate project banners added, etc. Thanks. --Quiddity 19:39, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Soil Directory Structure[edit]

Previous content from this section has been archived.

Wikipedia has needed a Soil directory to distance the project from the soil science for better accuracy, a more balanced presentation, and in a few cases, to maintain neutrality.

Category:Soil, new as of November, 2007, is a sub-cat of Category:Natural resources. Category:Soil science is also a sub-cat of Category:Soil. Accordingly, Category:Soil could have been placed under the Category:Soil science ala Commons:Category:Soil but was not sufficiently responsive to concerns for balanced treatment.

  • A structure that uses multiple paths to get to an article is OK:
    • Nature>Natural Resources>Soil>Types of soil>(specific soil type article: material, resource, or pedology class)
    • Nature>Natural Sciences>Earth sciences>Soil Science>Pedology>(specific soil pedology class type article)
    • Nature>Natural Sciences>Earth sciences>Physical geography>Pedology>(specific soil pedology classtype article)

Tillage articles[edit]

SoilMan2007 is a new user who is doing work on Tillage and related articles. (Here are his Contributions.) He is enthusiastic and informed, but new to Wikipedia. I have given him some guidance on Wikipedia house style and related matters but as with all of us, there is a learning curve. Could members of this project assist him, by watchlisting his talk page, where he now is posting questions from time to time? I will continue as well. Thank you. Kablammo (talk) 04:44, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Dead link patrol[edit]

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Posted to WikiProject Science and WikiProject Biology, Relayed to WikiProject Soil by Paleorthid (talk) 16:19, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

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Plant litter[edit]

First off, I just want to say how awesome it is that there is a Wikiproject Soil. Secondly, I found the above article, and tagged it for your project. I was wondering if it was named correctly though, as a ornithologist I would always call birds that feed in it foraging in leaf litter. Thoughts? Sabine's Sunbird talk 01:03, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

An article on leaf litter predated the article on plant litter, which user:Daniel Collins created, possibly in order to apply the term to other-than-forested settings. user:Daniel Collins has left Wikipedia, so we will have to figure this out without his insight. We should have to go through the links to see how the distinction plays out in the individual articles, however, leaf litter would seem the more familiar term to hang an encyclopedia article on. Persuasive: (1) more articles link to leaf litter than are directly linked through plant litter. (2) Google scholar retrieves 4X the results on "leaf litter" vs "plant litter". -- Paleorthid (talk) 13:32, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

WP 0.7[edit]

Nine project articles are selected for inclusion in WP Version 0.7 DVD. Given the opportunity of a two month reprieve, now is the time for project participants to review and improve these articles. --Paleorthid (talk) 17:38, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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Like I said...:) -- Paleorthid (talk) 23:28, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Effective microorganisms[edit]

There is a oddly phrased article at Effective microorganism that seems a bit unclear on whether it is NPOV or sourced correctly. Thought this project might like to be made aware of it.--ZayZayEM (talk) 06:39, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Request for help[edit]

Best Regards, SoilMan2007 (talk)

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Prof. Peter Bullock[edit]

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Citing verbatim use of public domain sources[edit]

The following was added to Natchez silt loam:


Many articles in the project would benefit from this approach to citation. --Paleorthid (talk) 18:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Index of soil-related articles[edit]

I have created Index of soil-related articles. Please check for any omissions. The list is made from the contents of the relevant categories. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 21:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Mire terminology[edit]

I started a discussion here about mire/bog/fen terminology.--Carnby (talk) 09:33, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


I saw that Drainage fell within the scope of this project. Has anyone seen anything related to the "crown" of a sports field? It is the slight slope created to allow fo drainage and I was hoping to wikilink to it if it is available as a subsection of an article somewhere.Cptnono (talk) 01:39, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion nomination of List of universities with soil science curriculum[edit]

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Soil articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release[edit]

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Rename this wikiproject?[edit]

I notice that User:Greenman-23 has removed "the earth material used in construction" from the definition of "soil" in the project's scope. If it is the case that WikiProject Soil is not interested in including articles related to geotechnical engineering, or to soil considered as anything other than a medium for plant growth, I suggest that the WikiProject rename itself to "WikiProject Soil Science". That way, people interested primarily in geotechnical engineering aspects of soil will know that this WikiProject doesn't have much for them, while people interested in soil for its biological properties will know that this WikiProject is what they're looking for. Argyriou (talk) 05:26, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


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USDA soil types - singular or plural?[edit]

Most articles (e.g. Ultisols) have a plural title, but some are singular (e.g. Entisol). Any reason for this difference? Can it be made consistent? Should they all be singular, or all be plural? Colonies Chris (talk) 10:00, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I guess WP:SINGULAR applies. Dentren | Talk 01:38, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Most articles are written in the plural form, with the exception of Vertisol. Histosol starts off singular but continues plural (a histosol is a soil consisting primarily of organic materials. They are defined as having ...) Depends whether the name is thought of as the umbrella term for a group sharing certain characteristics, or as a common classification of a lot of individual soil types. Rather like the debate over "the police is ..." or "the police are ...", I suppose. Colonies Chris (talk) 13:19, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

List of U.S. state soils[edit]

We need some images over there. If you have a camera and a shovel, or one of those new camera-shovels, please help.

Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:52, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Wrong category name?[edit]

Please express your opinion here. --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 02:24, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Can anyone help with a question about "crust microorganisms which are active only when wet" at Talk:Biological_soil_crust? FloraWilde (talk) 01:45, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[edit]

Can anyone help with a question about "crust microorganisms which are active only when wet" at Talk:Biological_soil_crust? FloraWilde (talk) 01:45, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

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Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Impenetrable Science[edit]

Wikipedia's scientists, including those involved with WikiProject Soil, should read the Impenetrable Science article in the latest Signpost.

John Timmer, senior science editor at Ars Technica, editorializes about the state of science articles on Wikipedia, writing "Wikipedia fails as an encyclopedia, to science’s detriment": "Disturbingly, all of the worst entries I have ever read have been in the sciences. Wander off the big ideas in the sciences, and you're likely to run into entries that are excessively technical and provide almost no context, making them effectively incomprehensible."

We resemble that remark! -- Paleorthid (talk) 02:31, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 6[edit]

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Newsletter • January 2016

Hello there! Happy to be writing this newsletter once more. This month:

What comes next

Some good news: the Wikimedia Foundation has renewed WikiProject X. This means we can continue focusing on making WikiProjects better.

During our first round of work, we created a prototype WikiProject based on two ideas: (1) WikiProjects should clearly present things for people to do, and (2) The content of WikiProjects should be automated as much as possible. We launched pilots, and for the most part it works. But this approach will not work for the long term. While it makes certain aspects of running a WikiProject easier, it makes the maintenance aspects harder.

We are working on a major overhaul that will address these issues. New features will include:

  • Creating WikiProjects by simply filling out a form, choosing which reports you want to generate for your project. This will work with existing bots in addition to the Reports Bot reports. (Of course, you can also have sections curated by humans.)
  • One-click button to join a WikiProject, with optional notifications.
  • Be able to define your WikiProject's scope within the WikiProject itself by listing relevant pages and categories, eliminating the need to tag every talk page with a banner. (You will still be allowed to do that, of course. It just won't be required.)

The end goal is a collaboration tool that can be used by WikiProjects but also by any edit-a-thon or group of people that want to coordinate on improving articles. Though implemented as an extension, the underlying content will be wikitext, meaning that you can continue to use categories, templates, and other features as you normally would.

This will take a lot of work, and we are just getting started. What would you like to see? I invite you to discuss on our talk page.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 02:53, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

RfC at Talk:Climate change denial[edit]

There is a RfC at Talk:Climate change denial. Please contribute if you are interested. Biscuittin (talk) 00:19, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 7[edit]

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Newsletter • February 2016

This month:

One database for Wikipedia requests

Development of the extension for setting up WikiProjects, as described in the last issue of this newsletter, is currently underway. No terribly exciting news on this front.

In the meantime, we are working on a prototype for a new service we hope to announce soon. The problem: there are requests scattered all across Wikipedia, including requests for new articles and requests for improvements to existing articles. We Wikipedians are very good at coming up with lists of things to do. But once we write these lists, where do they end up? How can we make them useful for all editors—even those who do not browse the missing articles lists, or the particular WikiProjects that have lists?

Introducing Wikipedia Requests, a new tool to centralize the various lists of requests around Wikipedia. Requests will be tagged by category and WikiProject, making it easier to find requests based on what your interests are. Accompanying this service will be a bot that will let you generate reports from this database on any wiki page, including WikiProjects. This means that once a request is filed centrally, it can syndicated all throughout Wikipedia, and once it is fulfilled, it will be marked as "complete" throughout Wikipedia. The idea for this service came about when I saw that it was easy to put together to-do lists based on database queries, but it was harder to do this for human-generated requests when those requests are scattered throughout the wiki, siloed throughout several pages. This should especially be useful for WikiProjects that have overlapping interests.

The newsletter this month is fairly brief; not a lot of news, just checking in to say that we are hard at work and hope to have more for you soon.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 01:44, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 8[edit]

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Newsletter • March / April 2016

This month:

Transclude article requests anywhere on Wikipedia

In the last issue of the WikiProject X Newsletter, I discussed the upcoming Wikipedia Requests system: a central database for outstanding work on Wikipedia. I am pleased to announce Wikipedia Requests is live! Its purpose is to supplement automatically generated lists, such as those from SuggestBot, Reports bot, or Wikidata. It is currently being demonstrated on WikiProject Occupational Safety and Health (which I work on as part of my NIOSH duties) and WikiProject Women scientists.

Adding a request is as simple as filling out a form. Just go to the Add form to add your request. Adding sources will help ensure that your request is fulfilled more quickly. And when a request is fulfilled, simply click "mark as complete" and it will be removed from all the lists it's on. All at the click of a button! (If anyone is concerned, all actions are logged.)

With this new service is a template to transclude these requests: {{Wikipedia Requests}}. It's simple to use: add the template to a page, specifying article=, category=, or wikiproject=, and the list will be transcluded. For example, for requests having to do with all living people, just do {{Wikipedia Requests|category=Living people}}. Use these lists on WikiProjects but also for edit-a-thons where you want a convenient list of things to do on hand. Give it a shot!

Help us build our list!

The value of Wikipedia Requests comes from being a centralized database. The long work to migrating individual lists into this combined list is slowly underway. As of writing, we have 883 open tasks logged in Wikipedia Requests. We need your help building this list.

If you know of a list of missing articles, or of outstanding tasks for existing articles, that you would like to migrate to this new system, head on over to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Requests#Transition project and help out. Doing this will help put your list in front of more eyes—more than just your own WikiProject.

An open database means new tools

WikiProject X maintains a database that associates article talk pages (and draft talk pages) with WikiProjects. This database powers many of the reports that Reports bot generates. However, until very recently, this database was not made available to others who might find its data useful. It's only common sense to open up the database and let others build tools with it.

And indeed: Citation Hunt, the game to add citations to Wikipedia, now lets you filter by WikiProject, using the data from our database.

Are you a tool developer interested in using this? Here are some details: the database resides on Tool Labs with the name s52475__wpx_p. The table that associates WikiProjects with articles and drafts is called projectindex. Pages are stored by talk page title but in the future this should change. Have fun!

On the horizon
  • The work on the CollaborationKit extension continues. The extension will initially focus on reducing template and Lua bloat on WikiProjects (especially our WPX UI demonstration projects), and will from there create custom interfaces for creating and maintaining WikiProjects.
  • The WikiCite meeting will be in Berlin in May. The goal of the meeting is to figure out how to build a bibliographic database for use on the Wikimedia projects. This fits in quite nicely with WikiProject X's work: we want to make it easier for people to find things to work on, and with a powerful, open bibliographic database, we can build recommendations for sources. This feature was requested by the Wikipedia Library back in September, and this meeting is a major next step. We look forward to seeing what comes out of this meeting.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 01:29, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 9[edit]

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Newsletter • May / June 2016

Check out this month's issue of the WikiProject X newsletter, featuring the first screenshot of our new CollaborationKit software!

Harej (talk) 00:23, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Peat bog[edit]


It seems to me that en:wiki does not really have a good article covering raised bogs and/or peat bogs in general. Rather it has

  • The article Muskeg which isn't a bad article but essentially "muskeg" is just a Cree-based word for a peat bog
  • The article Blanket bog which again isn't a bad article, but about a specific type of peat bog
  • The archetype peat bog, the raised bog, is only covered briefly in Bog#Raised_bog
  • And then some is covered in Peat

This means that a number of common things are spread and repeated (or sometimes missing) in several articles. I suggest there should be the following 3 artciles

  • Sphagnum as it is. About the sphagnum moss which is a primary key element in any peat bog
  • Bog about how these bogs form due to rainwater being accumulated, the speial plant and animal life, distribution and the different types
  • Peat about the material, how it was and is harvested, and was once used to burn for heat (maybe still is in some areas)

But I doubt I can do it alone... --Honymand (talk) 10:45, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Soil and fertilizer[edit]

I am taking on revising / clarifying SOME of the at times muddled and inconsistent fertilizer article. Fertilizing and soils ought to some common links and a certain consistency, but seem to not. There is mixed opinion regarding the terms "organic amendments" and "organic agriculture", mixed opinion regarding the importance and effects of liming (soil) and whether or not lime is a fertilizer, and inconclusive reports on the effects of certain elements of the growth of plants. I do not expect to amend most of this, only working (at present) to expand the section on minor and trace elements -- calcium, magnesium, sulphur, boron, etc.

I'm posting this because others may want to add Fertilizing to WikiSoil.

GeeBee60 (talk) 05:03, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 10[edit]

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Issue 10 of the WikiProject X newsletter is here!

This month, we discuss the new CollaborationKit extension. Here's an image as a teaser:

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23:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Soil pH[edit]

I have worked through this article and revised it extensively - please review. --Alandmanson (talk) 18:54, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Invitation to comment on revised article: Cation Exchange Capacity[edit]

I've substantially rewritten the article on cation exchange capacity, and would welcome some comment on the draft before publishing in mainspace: User:Kyle MoJo/CEC draft. Feel free to leave comments or suggestions on my talk page or the talk page of the current article. Kyle MoJo (talk) 15:51, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Pedology (soil study) listed at Requested moves[edit]


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