User talk:Jackmcbarn

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Tech News: 2014-28[edit]

07:07, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

The Pacific Pumas CSD[edit]

Moved to User talk:Hasteur#The Pacific Pumas: Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:04, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Notice from Technical 13[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Template Editor Jackmcbarn. Thank you. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 15:43, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm not going to post at WP:AN but I'm disappointed with your actions here. Please avoid closing requests where you may be considered "involved": specifically it would be better not to close requests to revert your own edits, but allow a neutral third-party to assess the request. It reduces the chance of drama which has occurred here. Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:13, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Noted. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:14, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Template:Fb cl3 team[edit]

Unless you know how to fix what's happening in articles like 2013 Africa Cup of Nations#Team statistics I suggest you keep it as an "unreadable mess". Davykamanzitalkcontribsalter ego 16:43, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

@Davykamanzi: As a matter of fact, I do. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Vitruvian Barnstar.png The da Vinci Barnstar
for your work in resolving bug 66387 Ixfd64 (talk) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-29[edit]

07:48, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

htmlBuilder vs mw.html[edit]

mw.html handles parameters with nowiki tags that are used in the css function differently to htmlBuilder. I've created a small testcase at Module talk:User:WOSlinker/sandbox to demonstrate the difference. -- WOSlinker (talk) 22:10, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

@WOSlinker: Yeah, I figured that out too. I'm trying to figure out the best way to fix that. Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:24, 14 July 2014 (UTC)


Can you tell me why you reverted Southwest Monarch Study (talk) 05:49, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

First of all, Wikipedia prefers secondary sources rather than primary ones. Second, you have a blatant conflict of interest and seem to be spamming. Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:47, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

About Imperia Online's Wiki Page and its potential deletion[edit]

Hello, Jackmcbarn!

I apologize for contacting you this way - I read about talk pages, deletions and so on, but couldn't figure out what the best way to share information is.

It's about Imperia Online's page that I created a few days ago and you nominated for deletion (I can now understand why, of course). Just wanted to add that there are more sources that talk about Imperia Online, but are in Bulgarian, so I didn't think there is a point in including them.

Here are two examples:

I can provide more sources in Bulgarian if needed and I apologize once more for not being sure how to properly participate in the discussion.

Thank you for your time!

Best wishes, JustTryAnother — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justtryanother (talkcontribs) 06:52, 15 July 2014‎ (UTC)

If you have sources, add them to the article. If you want to participate in the discussion, just post on the AfD page. Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:48, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


Hey Jack, I'm currently in a discussion with another editor on the positioning of the {{coord}} template within articles. Per the style guide, this is placed after navigation boxes (if there are any) and above categories etc. The counter argument runs that it should be at the top of the article, based on the (seemingly sensible) idea that code should be placed where it will appear on the page when rendered. Is there any technical reason that you're aware of for the current placement, and would it be sensible to alter the policy? At present, {{coord}} is used in 935,769 pages in en:Wikipedia alone so any change is going to involve a lot of edits. I'd appreciate your comments. Best,  Philg88 talk 16:17, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

@Philg88: If possible, coordinates should be placed inside of the article's infobox, since infoboxes often contain code that uses the coordinates for things like maps. If, for some reason, the article doesn't have an infobox or the infobox doesn't take coordinates, then from a technical perspective, it doesn't matter where it is. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:32, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Jack, appreciate the quick response. Cheers,  Philg88 talk 17:05, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


At Module:Convert/sandbox your edit was "put the old version back in the sandbox to see if it's what made everything get slow". I have to ask, what got slow? Anything I should worry about? No need for a detailed explanation as it's just mild curiosity. I noticed you have a large amount of data at Module:Sandbox/Jackmcbarn. If you were really desperate, there is a dirty trick that can be used to greatly speed up access to data like that. Following an idea from Tim Starling, I once took some data like that and munged it into a single string. It turns out that a single gigantic string loads quickly, and the code to extract wanted data from the string runs quickly—I think it was ten times faster than loading the table. The downside is that the single string is super ugly and has to be generated by another script. Johnuniq (talk) 02:11, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

@Johnuniq: I never did figure out what the slowdown was, but restoring the old version didn't fix it, so it wasn't that at all. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:58, 17 July 2014 (UTC)


Hi Jack. :) So, you've been around here for a year now - how about running for adminship? While you haven't been very active in article-writing, I think your technical work and your new page/recent changes patrol work would give you a very good chance of passing an RfA. And I'd love to not have to answer your protected edit requests any more. ;) What do you say? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:49, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick change to Module:Delink![edit]

Just wanted to say thanks for the quick change on Module:Delink! gnosygnu 07:30, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-30[edit]

07:42, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Daniel Amen[edit]

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Module for national football team rankings[edit]

Take a look at Wikipedia:Lua requests § National football team rankings and tell me what you think. Davykamanzitalkcontribsalter ego 04:30, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


Hi Jack. Apropos the shenanigans with Module:Location map/data/India Delhi I've now recreated the Delhi map to cover the same area as the PNG. The problem is, it comes in at just over 6Mb as oppossed to the 398k of PNG. I know Commons encourages transition to vector formats for various reasons, but it seems kinda crazy to replace an image with something 12 times the size. What's your take on this? Best,  Philg88 talk 08:58, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

@Philg88: Where is the SVG? I can probably reduce the size of it to something manageable. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:05, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
I tried that with SVG Cleaner but you may be able to do a better job. Now uploaded to Location map India Delhi EN.svg. Cheers,  Philg88 talk 16:29, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
@Philg88: I see the problem. There's way too many minor roads in the map (the areas that are basically solid gray). When you turned the map data into an SVG, was there an option for what size roads to include? If there is, try it again with a lot fewer roads. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:36, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Alas no, the only tool that I'm aware of that will do the OSM XML -> SVG job is Maperitive, and that has no options for the export function. That said, I'll edit the file manually to remove the minor roads. Tedious, but necessary :) Will be done tomorrow them I'll update the module when I get the file size to around 1 Mb. Best,  Philg88 talk 16:43, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Update The image is now 2.69 MB - I did get it down to 1.36 MB with SVG Cleaner (see previous uploaded version) but it broke the syntax. Is that an acceptable size do you think? Cheers,  Philg88 talk 06:38, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
@Philg88: I got it down to 2.04 MB. I'd say that it's fine now, since MediaWiki will thumbnail it automatically anyway. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:31, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
For some reason the map is rendering as mainly black - I've reverted to the previous version for now. Best  Philg88 talk 18:10, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

User talk:Lothar von Richthofen#New format for Template:Syrian Civil War detailed map[edit]

I was stalking user Lothar von Richthofen’s talk page & I saw you had left him a message with the title above. If you allow me, I would like to answer on his behalf & continue the discussion with you for 2 reasons:

1- I saw that Lothar von Richthofen has put a “semi-retired” tag on his page & seems to not be answering his talk page messages.
2- I am Lothar’s partner in terms of the map (so to speak) as I had created the first version (here).

To answer your message, I would say that I like your idea very much, in case you are still interested in implementing it (I know you posted the message a long time ago, so things might have changed on your end & I would totally understand…) I am sure I am talking on behalf of all editors of the map… Tradediatalk 23:22, 24 July 2014 (UTC)