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===July 24, 2011===
===July 24, 2011===
{{subst:requested move Pholas Dactylus (shell)|Pholas Dactylus}} There are just two things in the disambiguate page, one is the species and the other is some obscure band named after the shell. The species should have that page. [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 22:44, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

* ''([[Talk:Estadio Reyno de Navarra#Requested move |Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Estadio Reyno de Navarra]] → {{noredirect|1=Reyno de Navarra Stadium}}''' – Title should be in English. --[[User:Txuriurdin|Txuriurdin]] ([[User talk:Txuriurdin|talk]]) 19:58, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
* ''([[Talk:Estadio Reyno de Navarra#Requested move |Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Estadio Reyno de Navarra]] → {{noredirect|1=Reyno de Navarra Stadium}}''' – Title should be in English. --[[User:Txuriurdin|Txuriurdin]] ([[User talk:Txuriurdin|talk]]) 19:58, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


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July 24, 2011

{{subst:requested move Pholas Dactylus (shell)|Pholas Dactylus}} There are just two things in the disambiguate page, one is the species and the other is some obscure band named after the shell. The species should have that page. Dream Focus 22:44, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • (Discuss) – Dos Caras, Jr. → Alberto Del Rio – Based on WP:COMMONNAME, this article should be placed under the most common name Alberto Rodríguez is known for in English language sources. While in the past that may have been Dos Caras Jr, he has been wrestling as one of the top wrestlers in the WWE for the better part of a year under the name Alberto Del Rio. Quoting from WP:COMMONNAME "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it instead uses the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources." While a small subset of the English speaking population of the world was certainly familiar with Dos Caras Jr, it can hardly be argued that a wrestler performing on Spanish and Japanese only language shows would be more popular than he would in the largest wrestling product in the world, especially when it that product is broadcast in English. Even in Mexico, he is likely to be more popular as Alberto Del Rio at this point based on statistics showing the WWE product has more than 3 times the ratings CMLL and AAA do in Mexico (sourced from Wrestling Observer July 20th, 2011 and June 2nd, 2011). Iarann (talk) 15:32, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Candy bar → Chocolate bar – Although Candy/Candy bar is a US term and has (I believe) duel usage in Canada (with Chocolate bar), can anyone verify if "Chocolate bar" would be better suited for English Wikipedia? In Australia & New Zealand, the word "Candy" isn't used and a chocolate bar is defined as a bar (with chocolate) and any other ingredients. In Ireland and the UK, it also isn't used but that's another story. AnimatedZebra (talk) 09:06, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Wilhelm II, German Emperor → Kaiser Wilhelm II – The subject is most commonly referred to as "the Kaiser". It is intuitively obvious that "the Kaiser" is short for "Kaiser Wilhelm II". The currently title is a hybrid of German and English, as well as an unnatural "name, title" format designed to meet the alphabetization needs of dead tree reference works. "German emperor" "Wilhelm II" | "William II" -Wikipedia yields 5,490 post-1980 English-language Google Book hits, compared to 49,100 for Kaiser "Wilhelm II" | "William II" -wikipedia. So he is called "kaiser" a whole lot more than "German emperor", quite apart from the other issues involved. Relisting; discussion is still active here. -GTBacchus(talk) 01:08, 24 July 2011 (UTC)Kauffner (talk) 17:11, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

July 23, 2011

  • (Discuss) – Kiss×Sis → Kiss×sis – Kiss×Sis is an inaccurate stylization of this series. The destination article I'd like it to be moved to, Kiss×sis, is empty and consists of nothing more than a redirect. As such, I do not see anything threatening or controversial besides simply swapping the pages. I also have a complete revision in place for this article to clean it up.Valce 22:10, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

July 22, 2011

  • (Discuss) – Fixed-wing aircraft → Airplane – There has never been any question that airplane is the most commonly used term in reliable sources for this topic, so I presume that as a given. Choosing a less commonly used term in order to avoiding having to choose between national varieties is unprecedented, so far as I know. It's not a good reason to ignore our rules. The proposed name meets the Principal Naming Criteria we use to decide titles better than either the current title, or Aeroplane:
  • Recognizability – The title is a name or description of the subject that someone familiar with, although not necessarily an expert in, the subject area will recognize.
  • Naturalness – The title is one that readers are likely to look or search for and that editors would naturally use to link to the article from other articles. Such a title usually conveys what the subject is actually called in English.
  • Precision – The title unambiguously identifies the article's subject and distinguishes it from other subjects. (See § Precision and disambiguation, below.)
  • Concision – The title is no longer than necessary to identify the article's subject and distinguish it from other subjects. (See § Concision, below.)
  • Consistency – The title is consistent with the pattern of similar articles' titles. Many of these patterns are listed (and linked) as topic-specific naming conventions on article titles, in the box above. (See § Consistency, below.)

The three are equally precise, but Airplane is more recognizable than the other two, more natural than the current title (and even arguably more natural than Aeroplane given that more readers would expect to find this article at Airplane), and more concise than the current title. It's also arguably more consistent with similar articles like Automobile, Train and Ship.

There is no policy-based justification for the current title, or for any title, other than Airplane. If we ignore our naming rules for peculiar reasons that don't apply to any other articles, why have rules at all? Born2cycle (talk) 20:05, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • (Discuss) – 2008 Mumbai terrorist attacks → 2008 Mumbai attacks – The article reached GA quality with that title, after a wide discussion of concensus, and while WP:CCC, it is unseemingly and unwarranted that the title, which was one of the sources of contention in this discussion, be change after a seven day period in which only 3 editors presented !v, editors which didnt actively participate in the GA process (unlike, well, myself). This article was also featured in the Annual Report of the Wikimedia Foundation using the "2008 Mumbai attacks" title. It is clear that this was done without any serious attempt, as is customary, to involve a wider discussion in particular of involved editors. --Cerejota (talk) 18:52, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

July 21, 2011

  • (Discuss) – User:CorHawk/Marcahuasi → Marcahuasi – Marcahuasi did not previously have a page with its information. This page was created with the intention of displaying more information about this relatively unknown location. 20:50, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Female genital cutting → Female genital mutilation – This may be a polarized issue, but most Wikipedia name request changes are. Female genital mutilation is by far the most commonly used term in Academic, Legal, Medical, and Non-Governmental circles, and thus conforms to WP:COMMONNAME. It has been suggested that the current name is an amicable compromise as per WP:NPOV, however this is not a proper implementation of that policy. WP:NPOV is not a trump-card for WP:COMMONNAME for use by those people who for one reason or another disagree with the wording of the most common name. Wikipedia in fact has a policy specifically for pages such as this, WP:POVTITLE, which has not been followed in this case (text included below). Lastly, to keep the current name is to give undue weight (WP:UNDUE) to the people who disagree with the term Female genital mutilation, we must remember that Wikipedia is about what is verifiable and sourced and not what one or more member's opinion on an issue is. There is no debate in the relevant literature over whether these procedures are in fact mutilation, and Wikipedia should reflect the consensus achieved in English language, verifiable, and authoritative sources. WP:POVTITLE: "When a significant majority of English-language reliable sources all refer to the topic or subject of an article by a given name, Wikipedia should follow the sources and use that name as our article title (subject to the other naming criteria). Sometimes that common name will include non-neutral words that Wikipedia normally avoids (Examples include Boston Massacre, Rape of Belgium, and Teapot Dome scandal). In such cases, the commonality of the name overrides our desire to avoid passing judgment (see below). This is acceptable because the non-neutrality and judgment is that of the sources, and not that of Wikipedia editors. True neutrality means we do not impose our opinions over that of the sources, even when our opinion is that the name used by the sources is judgmental." Vietminh (talk) 18:28, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

July 20, 2011

  • (Discuss) – S/2011 P 1 → P4 (moon) – Per almost all sources in this article, the current (though temporary) name of this moon, since its existence was verified (today), has been "P4". It should therefore be moved from what was apparently its pre-verification name (S/2011 P 1) to P4, per WP:COMMONNAME. Since there already is a disambiguation page at P4, the correct title (which is where it was before it was moved here) is P4 (moon). I tried to move it there but apparently someone edited the redirect, which means the P4 (moon) redirect would first have to be deleted by an admin. Neutron (talk) 21:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – HC Sibir → HC Sibir Novosibirsk – As far as I know, "HC Sibir" and "HC Severstal" are simply short versions of the clubs' actual respective names. Although I am aware that the clubs' official sites may not refer to the clubs directly as "HC Sibir Novosibirsk" and "Severstal Cherepovets" (see [5] and [6]), "HC Sibir Novosibirsk" and "Severstal Cherepovets" seem to be more common names for these respective clubs. As far as I know, Russian clubs (at least the KHL ones) do not use "HC" in their club name. Also, in case anyone's wondering, the reason why I want the "HC" part removed in "HC Severstal" but not in "HC Sibir" is because only the hockey club is named "Severstal Cherepovets", while there's also an association football club named "Sibir Novosibirsk". HeyMid (contribs) 12:37, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

July 19, 2011

  • (Discuss) – User:EEK Research/Duoyuan Global Water → Duoyuan Global Water – This is a new page (nothing yet with its name). I have not yet made 10 edits and cannot move the page myself; This page is very helpful I think, unbiased, and a good contribution to this online encyclopedia. I don't want to rush unnecessary edits just so I can publish this page myself; I'd rather spend more time on the edits I do choose to make around the site. Please move this page, or view it and let me know of the reason it is not helpful for Wikipedia's mission. Thank you very much. EEK Research (talk) 18:20, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Oxfordshire Record Office → NewName – Please could someone change the title Oxfordshire Record Office to Oxfordshire History Centre? The record office has recently merged with another service and been renamed, so we wish to update our entry to reflect this fact. More information can be found on our website www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/records Thank you. OxRO (talk) 12:48, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Vank, Martakert → Vankli, Kalbajar – As seen from long discussions above, the correct name of the article is one that is from neutral sources. The neutral source, especially the one that Wikipedia village and town names rely on is GEOnet Names Server. The link to [8] very clearly shows that the correct name of the village is Vəngli (transliterated as Vankli or Vangli) of Kǝlbǝcǝr rayonu (transliterated as Kalbajar Rayon). So, the name Vankli, Kalbajar is the name the article should be moved back to. As a reminder, this article had been moved to Vank, Martakert without any consensus reached or any requested moves filed.  Anastasia Bukhantseva  05:09, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

July 18, 2011

  • (Discuss) – Helen → Helen of Troy – Classical mythology is not as dominant in Western culture as it once was, there could also be a Western systemic bias here. Unqualified references to "Helen" would not necessarily suggest her to most people these days. I am aware that strictly speaking she was not originally from Troy, but most people think of her as "Helen of Troy", which already redirects here. PatGallacher (talk) 14:57, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

July 17, 2011

Backlog

  • (Discuss) – Atlantic City Hilton → ACH Casino Resort – A user has suggested this article be moved solely based on this article. I think this is a premature move and violates WP:CRYSTAL, especially since the hotel's website still says "Atlantic City Hilton" on its homepage (in the social networking section, copyright notice, and browser page title). The article also states that "If the agreement is terminated, the property can no longer be part of the Hilton brand" which implies that it is not 100% definite. While a move may be appropriate in the future, it should remain with its current title at the moment. –Dream out loud (talk) 06:20, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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