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November 22

Password

I have forgotten a part of my login details. I know my username, but forgot my password. Please help. Thank you. 2001:8003:1D92:7B00:48B1:23D2:E982:82BB (talk) 01:13, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

If you have an email linked to your account, you can go to Special:PasswordReset and request a new password be sent to your email. If not, then there is no recovery possible. RudolfRed (talk) 01:18, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

It's not impossible if you can find a browser on which you are currently logged in. Remote chance perhaps, but worth mentioning.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:53, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

.... or a device you once used to log in to Wikipedia which remembers the credentials (e.g. in Chrome and Edge there are settings where you can see saved passwords). Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:21, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

You can also use your committed identity phrase as a last resort or just create a now account and mention that you are locked out of the other one. Sangsangaplaz (talk) 06:02, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ThatOneWolf,

In the discussion here, what I wrote is: "Would you help me make all the Italian foods on the List of Italian dishes page this way? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1186209428. Thank you very much if you do, really; I'll have to pay you back somehow if you do. Make sure that the page is really about an Italian-only food and not also French, etc.", but in visual mode one sees something else entirely (a message that I had deleted), and, moreover, duplicated. JackkBrown (talk) 01:27, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

What exactly are you getting at here? ThatOneWolf ^{(talk|contribs)} 01:31, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Nevermind, I see it. I'll try to fix it. ThatOneWolf ^{(talk|contribs)} 01:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: I've made some changes to the comment you left on my talk page, look at it and tell me if that's what you had wanted to see. ThatOneWolf ^{(talk|contribs)} 01:36, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

@ThatOneWolf: thanks a lot man! Perfect! JackkBrown (talk) 01:38, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

This discussion doesn't belong here here. Please refrain from discussing maters like this in the help desk and instead use each other's talk page or the talk page of the article in question. Sangsangaplaz (talk) 06:04, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Edit-warring

IP @219.76.38.21 and 121.202.197.218: (which I think is the same person) is edit-warring on the President of the People's Republic of China and adding infactual information, stating that something is sourced in the PRC Constitution when its not. TheUzbek (talk) 07:46, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

@ User:TheUzbek / User:Ruling party misunderstands the PRC Constitution and PRC political system. In fact, the Chinese President has no power leading the government and armed forces when not simultaneously holding the CCP General Secretary and CMC Chairman posts. Currently, Xi Jinping is also the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party, making him the paramount leader of China. --219.76.38.21 (talk) 08:50, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

"In fact, the Chinese President has no power leading the government and armed forces when not simultaneously holding the CCP General Secretary and CMC". I agree! TheUzbek (talk) 10:28, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

In you're addition, you write: "which on its own is a ceremonial office and has no real power in China's political system. HIDDEN TEXT According to the Constitution, most of the presidential powers require the approval or confirmation of the National People's Congress. Read the Constitution of the People's Republic of China Article 80. (The president of the People's Republic of China, pursuant to decisions of the National People's Congress and the National People's Congress Standing Committee......). Current President Xi Jinping use his power of CCP general secretary to lead the Chinese government and the Armed forces. HIDDEN TEXT"

The only thing I disagree with here is "which on its own is a ceremonial office and has no real power in China's political system." Nowhere in the PRC Constitution is this stated.

As for the following, "According to the Constitution, most of the presidential powers require the approval or confirmation of the National People's Congress. Read the Constitution of the People's Republic of China Article 80. (The president of the People's Republic of China, pursuant to decisions of the National People's Congress and the National People's Congress Standing Committee......). Current President Xi Jinping use his power of CCP general secretary to lead the Chinese government and the Armed forces." I entirely agree. If you had added the sentence, "According to the Constitution, most of the presidential powers require the approval or confirmation of the National People's Congress. Read the Constitution of the People's Republic of China Article 80" I would have entirely supported your edit. I'm adding it now! TheUzbek (talk) 10:34, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

I've now changed this sentence from "Together with the NPC Standing Committee, the presidency performs certain heads of state functions. The president can engage in state affairs with the consent of the NPC Standing Committee." to "The president can engage in state affairs and receive foreign diplomatic envoys on behalf of China, but to perform other heads of state functions, the president needs the consent of the NPC or the NPC Standing Committee."

Do you concur now? TheUzbek (talk) 10:41, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

regarding editing

hello i am ahsan i saw some content regarding our holy prophet in his name no ﷺ mentioned, i creat an account and edited but its not happen i disappointed please mention ﷺ in the end name of hazrat muhammad ﷺ Ahsanqadri1992 (talk) 09:20, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello Ahsanqadri1992 – honorifics are generally omitted from articles in line with the neutral point of view policy; please see the manual of style's relevant section for the full details. Tollens (talk) 09:23, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Moses Montefiore

Please fix ref. number 4 - it is in red - Confused! Thank you 175.38.42.62 (talk) 10:23, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

 Done. The "date" field should contain a date and nothing else. Maproom (talk) 10:30, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Can you restore the good revision of Mercury (element) to keep it consistent?

I seek consensus from your will as my question above. It would be warm-hearted of you if you are interested in the topic. Let me know about what you think. 2001:EE0:4BC3:FBA0:1DB:2F3:CF1B:D798 (talk) 11:53, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

I mean no use of 'with', apply the suggestion of Mike Turnbull from discussing about 'the' or 'a' chemical element. Use 'it has' instead as I would like to. 2001:EE0:4BC3:FBA0:1DB:2F3:CF1B:D798 (talk) 11:55, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

IP editor. Please create an account and then you would be able to make these changes yourself when you noticed they were needed. Alternatively, make requests on my Talk Page, linked in my signature. There would then be no need to start new Help desk threads each time to implement an agreed consensus. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:13, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Are there specific guidelines for creating and editing articles that contributors are expected to follow?

Are there specific guidelines established for the creation and editing of articles that contributors are expected to adhere to? In the context of content creation, are there predetermined rules or standards in place that writers and editors are encouraged or required to follow? Areej Sajid (talk) 11:53, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Short answer, "Yes". Longer answer, please read H:YFA. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:15, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Editorials as sources on themselves

The article on Gabriel Solano has a sentence that says "He has written articles on education, economic policy, and youth as a columnist for La Política Online, Infobae, and Prensa Obrera" (those are online newspapers), and cites as references the articles themselves. Is this a correct thing to do? Cambalachero (talk) 12:56, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

One school of thought is that any important works authored by an article subject should go in a Selected bibliography subsection, rather than be cited as references, but it's very common practice just to add them as references to article prose rather than split them out into their own section. After all, if a source shows the subject as its author, that supports the statement that the subject wrote it. Folly Mox (talk) 13:10, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

@Cambalachero: While primary sources confirm that a person has written articles for the stated newspapers, secondary sources are needed to demonstrate that the person meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. (This is a general statement, not a comment regarding any sources in the Gabriel Solano article.) GoingBatty (talk) 19:36, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

He has been a candidate for president, so I guess he has notability. The question was more about what content to actually include in the article. Cambalachero (talk) 00:11, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Michael Caine

A user deleted my edit (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1186058362) (this user is currently doubtful and is not sure if he is right, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jean-de-Nivelle#c-Jean-de-Nivelle-20231122134200-JackkBrown-20231122014400). I would like to ask: in titles after the colon, is the initial capitalisation correct? In my opinion, no. JackkBrown (talk) 14:58, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown according to MOS:COLON, do not capitalize after a colon except where doing so is needed for another reason, such as for a proper name. So yes. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 16:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

@Sungodtemple: so is the capital letter correct?... JackkBrown (talk) 16:35, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

I see, this is a section title, not a sentence. In this case, there are differing views. The Beatles has lowercase section titles, while The Rolling Stones, The Beach Boys, Eagles (band), Coldplay, The Police and Maná have uppercase. You can avoid this problem altogether by formatting 'Title (yyyy-yyyy)' like Ottoman Empire and Michael Jackson. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 16:48, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

@Sungodtemple: exactly, where? JackkBrown (talk) 17:17, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown For example at Ottoman Empire#Expansion and peak (1453–1566). By placing the date range last, the problem goes away. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:15, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull: on the "Coldplay" (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1186382689) and "The Beatles" ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1186393834; but this one has a lowercase initial) pages, I was not allowed to do this. JackkBrown (talk) 21:37, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: This situation has been the topic of multiple recent discussions at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters. The result of the most recent RfC seems to be that either a capital letter or a lowercase letter is permissible after a colon in a heading. As long as the usage in a particular article is consistent, it's probably best not to go around changing these. Deor (talk) 23:23, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Adding references to published works written by self

I've just stumbled across several examples of an editor adding references to published works written by that individual. The references seem to be added in good faith, published by trusted academic publishers, and the author is a professor at a reputable university. However, I feel uncomfortable that there has been no declaration of interest. Is this OK? Is there a WP guideline on this? Masato.harada (talk) 15:59, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

You may want to read WP:SELFPUB. It's about self-published sources. --ThatOneWolf ^{(talk|contribs)} 16:03, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

These are not self-published. As I said, they are works published by trusted publishers. Masato.harada (talk) 16:10, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

But, in your first sentence, you said "I've just stumbled across several examples of an editor adding references to published works written by that individual." This implies that they were self-publishing. Unless that editor was the trusted publisher? --ThatOneWolf ^{(talk|contribs)} 16:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

I hope we're not having edit wars on the Help Desk?! My first post was quite clear. I never mentioned or implied self-publishing. Masato.harada (talk) 16:22, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

@Masato.harada There are a couple of issues to consider. One is that WP:OUTING (i.e. naming an editor who edits under a pseudonym) is prohibited, even if you suspect that they are adding citations to their own work that would be considered a conflict of interest. Note that WP:SELFCITE, part of that guidance, does not prohibit adding relevant citations within reason, but only if it is relevant, conforms to the content policies, including WP:SELFPUB, and is not excessive. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:24, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, Mike. There's no question of Wikipedia:OUTING, no conflict of interest and no pseudonym, i.e. they're openly using their own name. Having read Wikipedia:SELFCITE, I'm now comfortable the material and citations are OK. Masato.harada (talk) 16:49, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

I've run into this a few times before. On niche technical articles where the editor has made significant contributions to the field, I just leave it. If it's someone adding some fringe theory they're pushing on arXiv, I take it to the talk page like any other WP:UNDUE issue. Folly Mox (talk) 19:03, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Bug report

I can't type the right side of { with AltGr+n anymore since you changed to the phone-style skin. This is the only way I can type this on my keyboard layout. Please fix this. 78.2.116.124 (talk) 17:27, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Alt+125 (not Alt Gr) works for me in Firefox on Windows 10 (my keyboard also has the symbol). Below the edit area I have a drop-down menu where "Wiki markup" includes a clickable {{}} to insert all those symbols at once (delete those you don't need). If this doesn't help then what is your device or browser and what type of keyboard do you have? PrimeHunter (talk) 18:20, 22 November 2023 (UTC)}

Bullet points not working

Hello. I am having an issue getting bullet points to 'stick' on Ansley, Warwickshire - can someone please tell me where I am going wrong? They show up on the preview, then disappear when I publish. It starts from Other places of worship. Thank you BJCHK (talk) 20:58, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

@BJCHK: Fixed by adding a missing {{Tree list/end}}.[1] If a template has to be placed when something starts then another template usually has to be placed when it ends. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:14, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter thank you! I've not knowingly used that before but have managed to get bullet points to appear. This is a continuous learning curve :-) BJCHK (talk) 21:49, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Similar scripts?

Hello, I am writing to you guys for the first time to see if there's anything script similar to WP:MOSNUMSCRIPT. I tried installing it, but it would not appear in my toolbox. I have reinstalled it, hard refreshed my browser, and cleared the whole cache, but nothing works. Seems interesting unfortunately I just can't use it. Thanks in advance, Kline • talk to me! • contribs 22:23, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

WP:DATESPROJ#Tools lists DateFix.js. I have no idea if it still works, but you could try it. Sincerely, Novo Tape (She/Her)^{My Talk Page} 22:29, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Actually, I got it. I just never went into the editor to see it. Doh. Kline • talk to me! • contribs 22:40, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

New user bypassing AfC

So, I've just spotted a case of a newish user having received an AfC rejection, rightly being told that the draft had a tone that was far from neutral; the user then just went ahead and made a copy of the draft article in main space anyway. What is the best way to handle this?

• The article in question
• The original copy in draftspace

AntiDionysius (talk) 23:30, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

AFC is not required. If there is a problem with the article, open an WP:AfD for it. RudolfRed (talk) 23:36, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Using {{Prod}} might be faster, but given their prior actions, they'll probably just remove it. But you can try both. Mathglot (talk) 10:11, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

@AntiDionysius Just to correct a bit of jargon. The draft was not rejected in our meaning of that word but merely "declined", which means that the reviewer thought it had potential but was not yet acceptable: in this case because of its tone. That's fixable and can be done in mainspace. User:Nikoskpa did nothing wrong (and the new pages patrol will in any event take a look at the article). As advised, you can formally propose AfD if you think a wider discussion is needed. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:56, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

November 23

Mysterious ways

Can someone remove alternative dance from the infobox on Mysterious Ways as the Allmusic source does not list it as alternative dance? I’ve tried twice but each time messes up the infobox for some reason. 2601:806:8200:ECF0:5E3:3020:D0F2:5A01 (talk) 02:26, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Ignore this topic. I posted this same message at the Teahouse so they will probably help me. 2601:806:8200:ECF0:5E3:3020:D0F2:5A01 (talk) 02:37, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

 Done. Your edits were removing the reference as well at the closing curly brackets that are necessary for that template to work correctly. Cullen328 (talk) 02:41, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Could someone please help me translate my line map template to English?

I'm pretty busy and don't have time. I copied Template:HHCJ route from the Chinese WP. Could you please help me translate all the names to English using the data at the article Hangzhou–Haining Intercity Rail? Thanks! Félix An (talk) 03:35, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

I'll do it, but it'll take a while. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 06:10, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! Félix An (talk) 06:12, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

I also helped out a little bit as I had some time. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 06:39, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Citing a revised article

Is it okay to make a citation based on the original version of an article (using "date" and "archive-url" parameters) if the current version was revised/pruned/neutered/censored to not include the information that was synthesized? Alexis Coutinho (talk) 04:51, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

@Alexiscoutinho: Yes, and don't include |url-status=live in the reference. GoingBatty (talk) 05:00, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! For example, in the original interview article it said "In the first world war, mutinies interfered before technology could make a difference" while in the revised article it says "In the first world war, politics interfered before technology could make a difference". The citation/synthesis raised the concern of mutinies, namely. So this would be ok right (provided I remove |url-status=live of course)? Alexis Coutinho (talk) 05:09, 23 November 2023 (UTC

@Alexiscoutinho: I would also place an inline comment next to the ref explaining the situation. Otherwise a later editor might decide to "update" the ref to the more recent version. -Arch dude (talk) 05:41, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

I would suggest setting |url-status=deviated, which I think covers this use case. Folly Mox (talk) 05:48, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you Alexis Coutinho (talk) 06:28, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Guys, could you help out here? Some editors are disputing the validity of my citation. I believe I'm in the right there, but I would like to hear from other experienced editors. ;) Alexis Coutinho (talk) 19:15, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

I disagree here. If a source corrects itself then why use the older version? Obviously they had reasons for a correction. The RS criteria is based on “fact checking and accuracy” and a source changing itself is it basically saying “that wasn’t accurate”. I genuinely can’t think of a good reason why someone would wish to use an older, non-corrected version of a source. Volunteer Marek 22:33, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

The RS criteria is based on “fact checking and accuracy” and a source changing itself is it basically saying “that wasn’t accurate”. That isn't always the case. Remember that UN report (or some other human rights org) last year that accused Ukraine of war crimes due to using civilians as human shields? Well, after a huge backlash and international pressure they completely changed their tone. The source would still be considered generally reliable even though it caved to the narrative in that specific episode. There are surely countless other examples unrelated to the war of articles being revised/censored after the original publication. Alexis Coutinho (talk) 01:51, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

No, in that case too the same logic would apply. Also, you can’t read the sources mind and speculate why they corrected themselves, as that’s original research. Volunteer Marek 05:46, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

You should remove the {{Cite web}} |url-status= options then if you are so confident that non-live sources are unusable in Wikipedia. Alexis Coutinho (talk) 13:31, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

That is for dead links and the like. Not for sources that have been revised. That's like knowingly citing a retracted journal article. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 14:16, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

I misexpressed myself. I was mostly refering to deviated, unfit and usurped options. Alexis Coutinho (talk) 15:25, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

unfit and usurped are also not for that purpose. The purpose of deviated is unclear to me, but clearly if the source has issued a correction, that means it no longer supports the original text. That this template may encourage citing such information is neither here nor there. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 15:35, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Also, have you considered using nbsp or nowrap in your signature? I think it would look nicer. ;) Alexis Coutinho (talk) 13:32, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Collapseable option of Template:Argo Navis

Could any turn the current Template:Argo Navis to {{Argo Navis|state=collapsed}} ? I plan to make {{Argo Navis|state=expanded}} to something else. 117daveawesome (talk) 07:11, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Can you clarify the "something else"? Usually for a nav template up to a certain size, it is preferred for them to be collapsed by default and set to expanded in certain articles if needed. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 11:40, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Never mind, all my progress got deleted. 117daveawesome (talk) 12:07, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Can you make stannum redirect to tin?

I have mentioned above. It's currently nonsense when I typed stannum it directs me to a disambiguation page. I please someone who could handle well that situation so that each time the user type the old Latin name for the chemical element, it should be returned to the element with IUPAC-approved symbol. 2001:EE0:4BC5:A000:1DB:2F3:CF1B:D798 (talk) 12:55, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done Were that to be done then the links to Stannum, New South Wales and Fusinus stannum would be lost. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 13:07, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Page views in the last 20 days:

• Stannum: 266
• Tin: 39,374
• Stannum, New South Wales: 36
• Fusinus stannum: 17

It's very unusual for a disambiguation page to get far more views than the total for all but one of the listed pages. It's good evidence that nearly everybody is looking for tin. I will move the disambiguation page to Stannum (disambiguation), redirect Stannum to Tin, and add a hatnote to Tin with a link to the disambiguation page. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:20, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Not able to make factual edits to article

Hi there - There are factual edits in several articles about Palestine and the other users are not allowing the edits.

The first and most obvious is that it is not equivalent to map the Holy Land and Palestine. In fact, mapping one has often either meant to imply the land of the Israelites (as coined by the Greeks in the 5th century), or in direct opposition to the Holy Land as it is in modern times.

Cartography of Palestine

How can I get permanent changes? Raconcilio (talk) 13:04, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Racincilio No change to Wikipedia is "permanent", but you have chosen to edit in one of the most contentious areas of this project, which has its own special rules. I will notify you of these. Regarding your question, you have already used the edit request process, that is how you propose edits.

We don't need the whole url when you link to another article, simply place the title of the target article in double brackets, as I've done here for you. 331dot (talk) 13:11, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

It is clear to see that the mapping of Israel and Palestine are different from modern times.

The methods of mapping are different for mapping the Holy Land which is biblical. Mapping of Palestine is political.

It needs to be changed. Raconcilio (talk) 13:34, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Please send the rules to edit. There is no reference for this part and it should be changed. It is erasing modern history and also Jewish history before this. Raconcilio (talk) 13:35, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

As I said, please propose your edit for discussion on the article talk page as an edit request, which you have done before. You need to build a case for your edit and gain a consensus; you telling us it is correct is insufficient, especially in a contentious topic area. 331dot (talk) 14:01, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

There doesn't really need to be a case built. It is easy to see that 'Holy' mapping comes from the Bible and there are at present two different entities mapping Israel and Palestine. I have suggested in the talk page but need additional support.

It's critical because misinformation on this conflict causes people to kill one another. The land is Holy but killing people to call it Palestine vs. Israel is not what makes it Holy. Figuring out how to stop the killing is. This is part of it. Raconcilio (talk) 14:14, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

I understand that you think this is a clear piece of information, but that is insufficient especially in a designated contentious topic area. You need to make a case and persuade others to agree with you. That is just how things work here. 331dot (talk) 14:18, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

It is clear the way of mapping for different things is different. No map says aka for the others and there is no source. It’s inaccurate and should be deleted 2A01:6500:A036:557F:C01F:9095:26F:26D0 (talk) 14:39, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Nothing we do here will influence or end the conflict, nor should we attempt to do so. Our only interest is in summarizing independent reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 14:21, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes. My interest here is to correct the record.

Trying to emphasize that it’s critical to have someone higher up at Wikipedia look at.

The maps have never overlapped or had an AKA and so the article should be edited.

Keeping it is along the lines of erasing Israel and Jewish significance 2A01:6500:A036:557F:C01F:9095:26F:26D0 (talk) 14:42, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Remember to log in when posting. You will either proceed as advised, or not. 331dot (talk) 14:45, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

We don't really report "facts". There is no "higher ups". We simply summarize what reliable sources say about a subject. You need to gain consensus on the talk page of the article for this to be included. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:46, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

List of grape diseases

Can I remove this template? References are present.

JackkBrown (talk) 13:14, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, now that there are inline citations, feel free to remove this maintenance tag. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 13:18, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Turnaround time on submitting article requests

Hello,

I added a requested article for an organization called "Young Muslims". I am not in any rush to have the page be considered, but wanted to know what the general timeline and review process was? I had trouble finding this info in FAQ so apologies in advance if I missed it!

Wikipedia:Requested articles/Business and economics/Organizations#Y

Msiwiki (talk) 16:28, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Msiwiki There is no specific timeframe. The average time is several months, but drafts are reviewed in no particular order by volunteers. It could be done five minutes after you submit it, or five months from now. 331dot (talk) 16:33, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

@331dot: No mate, they mean they've requested someone write it for them, not that it's a submitted AfC draft. Seven months might be pretty hopeful for article requests - has anyone ever fulfilled one?! ——Serial 17:09, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129 I actually, did, sort of. I started an article, then I happened to check "what links here" and what do you know, it was listed on WP:RA. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:20, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Msiwiki. I'm afraid that 331dot has probably answered a different question, about the time taken for an submitted draft to be reviewed. I'm afraid that the time for a Requested Article to be picked up generally ranges from months to never. (It could happen that somebody picked it up sooner, but it's unusual).

The next entries after yours were raised in Feb 2022, May 2012, Feb 2021, and May 2012.

Your best bet is either to ask at WT:WikiProject Islam if there is anybody there interested in creating the article or working with you (though Islam is such a huge area, that I rather doubt it), or to do it yourself. Writing a new article is challenging, and I always advise new editors to get quite a bit of experience before trying it; but I see you have been around for a while, so you may have enough understanding of sourcing to try it - I'm not sure that all the sources you link in your request are independent, but there may very well be enough there to establish notability. Please read YFA. ColinFine (talk) 17:20, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Oops, that's exactly what I did. I appreciate the correction. 331dot (talk) 20:49, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello ColineFine,

I appreciate your response. I would love to take a shot at writing this and workshop with a wiki editor to ensure everything is credible and accurate.

Should I first begin a draft of the article, or first ask someone else's help on it in the WikiProject Islam?

My goal for the article is to first establish the page and notability so I do not imagine being incredibily detailed in the initial draft.

Thanks! Msiwiki (talk) 02:15, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

False content

Hi

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Moore_(%C3%A9crivain)

My client has advised me regarding the publication of this page about him. It is vastly incorrect and potentially damaging to his career and reputation given the inaccuracies. Jonathan's personal website is at https://jonathanmooreuk.com where you can see the photograph of him which been stolen for the French wiki page.

Please can you remove this page.

Kind regards,

Alistair Martin 62.232.146.42 (talk) 16:59, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

You have to raise this at the French Wikipedia; the English Wikipedia has no jurisdiction over what that project does. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:01, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

I note that the image has been marked on Commons for speedy deletion as a copyright violation. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:18, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Funny ref template for .pdf

Odd PDF mark up

Hi all. Could someone be kind enough just to pop over to Thomas de la More, and show me where I'm going wrong with this reference?

• Kleineke, H. W. (2021). "Parliamentary Elections in the Reign of Henry VI Revisited: Some New Perspectives on an Old Subject?" (PDF). thehistoryofparliament.

It's got a big red box on it which isn't particularly reassuring  ;) but I've tried tweaking things, and usually a pdf is easy enough. Any thoughts? Sorry if it's obvious; it probably is! ——Serial 17:03, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: I don't know what you refer to. I only see a normal small PDF icon with white "PDF" on red background on a white paper. It's added automatically to PDF links like http://example.org/test.pdf. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:14, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, PrimeHunter; this is what I see, here and there. ——Serial 17:25, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Stand down! I think it's just my browser actually—it's not there when I log out. Thanks for the help, though! ——Serial 17:30, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Do you have the User:Headbomb/unreliable.js script installed in your common.js file? I also see the red box, which is due to the unreliable.js script marking wordpress.com links as a "generally unreliable source". CodeTalker (talk) 17:42, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: The red background is made by importScript('User:Headbomb/unreliable.js') in User:Serial Number 54129/common.js. See User:Headbomb/unreliable. You have a shitload of user scripts. Please try logging out or safemode=1 before reporting issues. mw:safemode deactivates all user scripts and gadgets. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:45, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Could it be that part of your problem is the mess that is your common.js page? In the image you uploaded, the above {{cite web}} template shows a harv warning message. When I looked in your common.js I found several harv warning scripts: line 48, line 69, line 74, line 121, and line 122. Pick one and get rid of all of the others.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 17:45, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

• Ahh. @Trappist the monk, PrimeHunter, and CodeTalker: Thanks! I had another query about scripts elsewhere, where I was also rightfully bollocked for my scripts (WPT thread here—similar shenanigans!). So I got some severe culling of scripts to do then? Thanks for all your help! ——Serial 18:04, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Cluebot

In the Talk: Metrication page I automated the archiving using ClueBot III. There were two pre-existing manual archives. ClueBot, the first time it ran, put all the older threads in the first archive, which means that the threads in the second archive are older than many of the threads in the newer archive. Is there a way to sort this out? Jc3s5h (talk) 18:11, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

@Jc3s5h: I have manually moved the archived sections and added |numberstart=2 to the archive instructions [2] per User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis#numberstart. The next archiving should go to Talk:Metrication/Archive 2 now. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:55, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Jc3s5h (talk) 20:30, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Need help with changing the picture for IKEA Map for all stores

Need help with changing the picture for IKEA Map for all stores

List of countries with IKEA stores

The map is incorrect for Kosova and Ukraine as IKEA is made by and the headquarters being in Sweden.

It needs to be changed to the correct policies from Swedens Point of view. Century009 (talk) 19:41, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

@Century009: Hi there! The image is located at commons:File:Map of IKEA stores.svg. You could try reaching out to the previous editors to see if they would update the map. I suggest providing a reliable published source for each change you would like to be made. GoingBatty (talk) 20:13, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Assistance in writing an article for the National Association of Food Chains

I've been just casually scrolling Wikipedia, when I found that several articles, such as Barcode - Wikipedia and Wilfred Von der Ahe - Wikipedia. For this reason, I've been thinking of creating an article for the National Association of Food Chains. I've so far found some reliable sources mentioning the organization, such as National Association of Food Chains. Better Living at Lower Cost. · (usda.gov), FOOD CHAIN GROUP TO WOO THE PUBLIC; Association Sponsors Campaign Featuring Their Economies in Mass Distribution - The New York Times (nytimes.com), and National Association of Food Chains, 1957 | ArchivesSpace Public Interface (ou.edu) (this one however only mentions the name, and no actual information, which is a bit confusing, but I believe is locked behind some sort of access request). I believe that due to the time that the organization was active (about 1930s to 70s), there isn't many easily available sources for the organization. So, I am wondering if anyone can provide assistance in finding sources to create an article for the National Association of Food Chains, if it is possible? If not, then I guess perhaps it wouldn't be able to make it into an article, but I'm not sure. SonOfYoutubers (talk) 23:05, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi SonOfYoutubers, the guidelines for whether therer are enough references for an article about an organisation are at WP:NCORP. You could also ask at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities to see if the people there can find more sources. If you identify a source, but can't access it, you could ask at Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange. We already have an article on the Food Marketing Institute "formed in 1977 with the merger of the Super Market Institute and the National Association of Food Chains", so if you can't find enough references for a whole article, you could add a section to the FMI article and make a Wikipedia:Redirect page at National Association of Food Chains. TSventon (talk) 14:44, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@SonOfYoutubers That's the sort of topic where WP:The Wikipedia Library is a great resource. I just did a search for "National Association of Food Chains" and got 164 hits for that string. That isn't a guarantee of notability but it is a good start. Unfortunately, you don't yet qualify to join the library (you need 500 edits, for example). I could email you the hits but many may be paywalled, so a certain degree of commitment will be needed! Take this up via my Talk Page if you wish. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:38, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@SonOfYoutubers You may well have access to JSTOR and search there gives ~90 hits. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:06, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull I found many sources on JSTOR referencing and speaking of NAFC, thank you! I may be interested in seeing sources from the Wikipedia Library, I will see later. SonOfYoutubers (talk) 18:35, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

You might be cautious with your language. Saying "for the National Association of Food Chains" rather than about the NAFC implies to the reader that you would be editing on their behalf. I see that this is not the case, but that was the initial impression. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:13, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, my mistake. I usually don't grammar check my comments/topic headings too much, so that's why there's sometimes errors in them. SonOfYoutubers (talk) 00:15, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Bar and bat mitzvah

Hi guys, I have learnt to italicise a single word in the title, but here I need to italicise three words (all except "and"); how do I do this? JackkBrown (talk) 23:22, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: {{DISPLAYTITLE:''Bar'' and ''bat mitzvah''}}. See more at WP:DISPLAYTITLE. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:09, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: is it the same in the title of the infobox? JackkBrown (talk) 00:38, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: You can write anything in title, e.g. |title = ''Bar'' and ''bat mitzvah'' PrimeHunter (talk) 01:01, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: I had already tried this before posting the question in the help desk, but by italicising "(|title = Bar and bat mitzvah)", the words are unfortunately not in the same line. JackkBrown (talk) 01:20, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: It works for me in desktop but I now see that mobile is different. That's odd. You can use |title = {{nowrap|''Bar'' and ''bat mitzvah''}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:11, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown:, I am probably too late, but I would say don't italicise as bar and bat mitzvah are fairly commonly used in English. TSventon (talk) 00:12, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

@TSventon: I leave it as is, I have only italicised the title and header in the infobox; these terms, in all paragraphs, were already italicised before my intervention. Remember that if you want to take responsibility for removing the italics from these terms, you will also have to do so for all the other pages that talk about bar mitzvah and bat mitzvah. JackkBrown (talk) 01:39, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

November 24

Should I restore the article for Cillit Bang?

Someone changed the entire article into a redirect. Should I restore the article? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cillit_Bang&oldid=1091659175 Félix An (talk) 02:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Félix An, the article was removed because of its long-standing inadequate referencing. You should only consider recreating it if you can address that problem. Maproom (talk) 08:16, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

vector skin

is there a way to make ?useskin=vector persist without logging in or installing an addon? 103.62.155.200 (talk) 07:17, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately not, as far as I'm aware. Tollens (talk) 08:40, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

If you have an account and are logged in, you can do it by

Preferences

Appearance

Skin — select "Vector legacy (200)

Maproom (talk) 09:51, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Adding an article to an RM after it has started

Hi all. Is it possible to add an article to a requested move that is already underway? In particular, I would like to add History of transgender people in Brazil to the RM at Talk:History of transgender people in Finland. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 16:05, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

You can bring the topic up in that discussion, or, if in the future the discussion ends with move, you can move the Brazil page in a similar way and cite that discussion as the precedent. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 17:23, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Carnival of Venice

According to the page, "Carnival of Venice" should be capitalised, but should "Venetian carnival" (the "c" of "carnival") and "Venice carnival" (the "c" of "carnival") also be capitalised? JackkBrown (talk) 16:11, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: "Carnival" should be captialized if it is part of a proper name, such as the Carnival holiday. However, when writing about a traveling carnival, we would use lowercase. GoingBatty (talk) 20:07, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: I have not understood correctly and therefore risk making a mistake. Could you kindly correct all the "Carnival" and "Carnevale" that I got wrong on the pages "Carnival in Italy", "Carnival of Venice", "Carnival of Viareggio" and "Carnival of Ivrea"? Thank you very much in advance. JackkBrown (talk) 20:42, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: You are persistently making changes to articles which introduce errors and then expecting other editors such as @GoingBatty and myself to clean up your mess. This is not acceptable.

There is a danger that you will be blocked again if you continue to exhibit this behaviour. You are responsible for your edits, and should now be going back to correct them, or at least WP:UNDO your edits.

Editing Wikipedia is not a competition, and there are no deadlines. Bazza (talk) 21:53, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@Bazza 7: if you want me to take care of it, please explain better, with examples, when "Carnival" and "Carnevale" should be capitalised and when not (by the way, threatening to block someone is never a nice thing to do). JackkBrown (talk) 22:21, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: If you don't know what you're doing then stop editing. Your constant demands of other editors to fix errors of your own making are unreasonable.

I did not threaten to block you. I warned you that you may end up being blocked as you have been previously if you do not cease your disruptive editing. Bazza (talk) 23:43, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@Bazza 7: I respect you, but you are very wrong here. It may happen that I sometimes edit incorrectly, ask for advice, follow the advice, and then correct my mistakes, but this I do because I correct many pages a day (among the adjustments I make, I always flawlessly correct all captions, following the MOS:CAPTIONS, the MOS:GEOLINK, the "circa" template, adding punctuation when it's missing, etc., I fix dashes, I correct sentences, I add punctuation when it is missing (and I assure you that I have found pages where punctuation was completely missing (I mean it)), I add the "flatlist" and "plainlist" templates when necessary (more often than you can imagine, for example in many pages of Italian artists), I add the "singular" and "plural" templates, and many other things that I will not list because of their quantity) and I can't spend any more time alone than normal searching for doubts (I remind you that I am not an English national and many things I translate thanks to paid translators (very reliable)). By the way, I am a precise user and if I realise I have made a mistake I correct it, in fact sometimes I check my edits from 10 months ago, and very few do that (maybe, I repeat, maybe, not even you). Having said that, I am sorry that you only notice my mistakes, and thus only the tip of the iceberg. I wish you a good night. JackkBrown (talk) 01:55, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown, this will probably hurt your feelings, but I agree with Bazza 7 and GoingBatty in this matter. Most of the amendments you are aiming to make, while often technically correct, are in the context of Wikipedia fairly trivial (and I speak as a former professional editor who used to be meticulous about such matters when editing printed books and periodicals). No-one is going to look at any single stylistically errant word on Wikipedia and take it to be universally applicable: different publications have different styles; none of them is the 'one true way'.

Moreover, the scale of Wikipedia is such that you are in effect trying to bale out a lifeboat with a teaspoon.

My suggestion is that you stop this seemingly obsessive activity, find something else to do on Wikipedia or elsewhere, and resume in at least several months time after you have further passively studied both the (admittedly complex) MoS and other rules, and how the matters have been handled in articles that have GA and FA status, which ought to be entirely correct barring errors added post-assessment.

I think this would be good both for you and for the many editors who have tried and continue to try to help you. You are of course entirely free to ignore my advice. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.218.227.124 (talk) 05:47, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Terence Trent D'Arby

Reference help requested.

Thanks, Rockforlife (talk) 17:04, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I am trying to update the artist name to Sananda Maitreya (including the wikipedia URL) everywhere to reflect the current changes in all streaming platforms of the full discography, including album covers: i.e. https://music.apple.com/en/album/introducing-the-hardline-according-to-sananda-maitreya/250551726 Can you please help? Everytime I do a change somebody else randomly reverse it.

There is no consensus to change the name of the album. Most services call it Introducing the Hardline According to Terence Trent D'Arby, which was its name when it became a notable album. For example, AllMusic, which you changed inappropriately in this edit.... discospinster _talk 17:10, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Rotating galleries

Do we have them, or can it be done? I'm thinking it would be more egalitarian in not having to worry whar order a gallery is seen in (so one image never has precedence over another). On the other hand, the rotation wouldn't be printable (is that still a major concern nowadays?) ——Serial 17:07, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

The latter would be for me, as I sometimes print articles to show to others in person when doing so via the internet is not a useful option. My 85-y-o Father, for example, is not online and does not intend to become so. Also, some people still meet socially and pass around books, magazines, and printed-off academic papers and Wikipedia (etc.) articles of interest.

I suggest that it would also need to be possible to freeze the rotation at will, since otherwise one might not be able to view a particular image as long as one would like, without clicking to open it in a separate tab. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.218.227.124 (talk) 05:21, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: I'm not sure whether you want to vary which image is shown, or only vary where it is shown among other images. In either case, we don't do it in articles. {{Random slideshow}} and {{Transclude files as random slideshow}} are deliberately coded to not work in articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:47, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, no that's fine, I assumed as much—for the MOS:ACCESS reasons .124 mentions above. 14:15, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Copying references from a different language

Hi, is there an easy way to copy references from a different language version of Wikipedia? ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 17:56, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

All you need to work out is what template is being used, and use the en-Wiki version of that. The only other thing to remember is to use |lang= and add the relevant language name. Mjroots (talk) 18:31, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Well yes, but when copying it over, the parameters (ex. first/last name) are in a different language, so I was wondering if there was an easier way to copy it than manually translating the parts of the template. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 18:47, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

If you are using cs1|2 templates ({{cite book}}, {{cite web}}, etc) there may be an auto-translator available. There are auto-translators for some non-English templates for these languages:

Catalan, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish, Turkish

In general, the auto-translator will produce a correctly formatted cs1|2 template from the source that will get subst'd by AnomieBot. The translations are not perfect so it is on you to make sure that the rendered result is correct. If the non-English template is supported by a translator, all you need to do is copy it from the source and paste it in the en.wiki article, preview, fix any errors, and publish.

If there isn't an auto-translator for your particular language, do us the courtesy of translating the template yourself so that others don't have to follow behind you cleaning up your mess.

Supported non-English templates are listed at Module:CS1 translator.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:01, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

ok, thanks! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 19:04, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Don't forget to verify that the source supports your translation of the article as well ☺️ Folly Mox (talk) 19:02, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

ofc. Thanks for the help! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 19:05, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Trappist the monk, thank your for explaining the CS1 translator. Would it make sense to add a version of your answer to Help:Translation? The information seems hard to find if you don't already know about it. TSventon (talk) 00:03, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Go ahead.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Trappist the monk, I have added a section Help:Translation#Translating references. It is closely based on what you wrote but feel free to improve it further. I checked Pages that link to "Module:CS1 translator" and they did not seem to include any other help pages. TSventon (talk) 16:18, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

No longer able to access Newspapers.com Publisher Extra

I've had a subscription to Newspapers.com Publisher Extra for years through Wikipedia. I heavily rely on it for citations. I logged in today and searched but on every single newspaper result I click on, it says I don't have access to Publisher Extra and will need to pay.

How am I supposed to add citations when literally no single newspaper is available to me anymore? I need access restored asap, someone please help. SportsGuy789 (talk) 22:34, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@SportsGuy789: I had the same problem the other day. I see there's a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Newspapers.com#Newspapers.com access model change and new URL that might be helpful. I'll try it the next time I have the issue. GoingBatty (talk) 22:57, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! I didn't realize it was a systemic issue. I hope it gets resolved quickly. SportsGuy789 (talk) 23:35, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

November 25

What is the most appropriate way to deal with an editor causing WP:Disruptive editing due to his incompetency in English?

An editor is causing WP:Disruptive editing at multiple pages because of his incompetency in English. It is impossible to discuss his edits in the Talk Page because of his incomprehensible English. I do not want to make a personal attack, but I judge that the editor is clearly incompetent in English per WP:Competence is required.

For example, the editor (@Barbardo) wrote (in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Khitan_(circumcision) ): "You removed sources and then added primary sources which one hadith calling for it are deemed weak/daeef and then added a unsourced line about it being mostly found in muslim countries when it varies and is primarily based in africa my suggestion is removing the hadiths and the above line you made in the start of the paragraph. " And he also wrote: "You can't add hadiths as they are primary sources witgoyt secondary sources and you have also copied the first paragraph its fine as it because the hadith that calls for it is weak." I assume that other editors will agree that these sentences are incomprehensible.

What is the right way to deal with incompetency in English?

QamarBurtuqali (talk) 01:55, 25 November 2023 (UTC)QamarBurtuqali

(maybe try to add I think you should try to talk to them in their native language if they listed on their user page through their user talk page (maybe try to add an english translation or vise versa). Sangsangaplaz (talk) 06:07, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

QamarBurtuqali, there is advice on dealing with incompetence in English in WP:Disruptive editing and WP:Competence is required, which you have already linked to.

I think that the sentences you have quoted are reasonably clear, so I have copy edited them below

"You removed sources and then added primary sources of which one hadith calling for it areis deemed weak/daeef and then added aan unsourced line about it being mostly found in muslim countries when it varies and is primarily based in africa my. My suggestion is removing the hadiths and the above line you madeadded inat the start of the paragraph."

"You can't add hadiths as they are primary sources witgoytwithout secondary sources and you have also copied the first paragraph its. It was fine as it was because the hadith that calls for it is weak."

In this case I would suggest talking to the other editor on the article talk page and asking them to explain their points where they are not clear. If you can't agree, there is WP:Dispute resolution. TSventon (talk) 13:33, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Moses Montefiore

I did a Circa - "c" in the Early life section - but its not right - please fix if you have the time and thanks 175.38.42.62 (talk) 04:23, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

 Done in the future, you may want to use the {{circa}} template, using curly braces {} for templates, not square brackets [] for links—for example {{circa|1812}} would produce c. 1812. cheers! Remsense聊 04:26, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Stub articles

Is there a way to generate a list of all articles whose talk pages are in Category:Stub-Class articles (or any of its subcategories) but are not in Category:All stub articles and vice versa? That is, all articles that are rated as stubs on the content assessment scale but do not have a stub template and vice versa. Andumé (talk) 05:24, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

PetScan? Mach61 (talk) 05:43, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

And if Petscan can't do it - I can never remember whether it can handle the categories-on-the-talk-page problem - ask on WP:Request a query, and I or someone else will put something together for you. —Cryptic 06:12, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, since it's not possible to do this via PetScan (or at least I couldn't figure how), I will ask there. Andumé (talk) 06:33, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Despicable Me 4

Would now be a good time to write an article on the upcoming Despicable Me film? Or do I have to wait until more information is confirmed? NiameyH (talk) 13:00, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

You can do it when there are independent reliable sources about it, which is very unusual for an unreleased film. I haven't looked, but it's likely that everything you can find is either ultimately from the producers (and so, not independent), or mere gossip and speciulation. See WP:NYF. ColinFine (talk) 13:50, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Inquiry on MBE deletion

I would like to clarify why did you remove the MBE under Jennie Kim's profile? 121.58.228.67 (talk) 15:31, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

The best place to ask this would be on the talk page of the relevant article(not a "profile"), Talk:Jennie Kim. 331dot (talk) 15:41, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

IP editor. See also Talk:Blackpink#Member's_MBE_POSTNOM_in_lede. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

How to request protection?

Hi, I want to know how to request a higher level of protection for a Wikipedia page. Ameerthewolf (talk) 18:40, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Please don't alter your signature in that manner. All protection issues are discussed at WP:RFPP. 331dot (talk) 18:50, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Ameerthewolf (talk) 18:58, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Fancy usernames

I want to know how can I make my username fancy with colors and background colors and radius and whatever? Ameerthewolf (talk) 18:50, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

See WP:CUSTOMSIG, but your customization shouldn't be overly disruptive. 331dot (talk) 18:53, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Ameerthewolf (talk) 18:58, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Paragraph deleted by MrOllie

MrOllie [Please do not add commentary, your own point of view, or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral po..]

My paragraph is neutral, which part in the umbrella does MrOllie justified his action. Lv9454 (talk) 19:30, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

@Lv9454: Please discuss this with MrOllie. If you cannot reach an understanding, then come back here. -Arch dude (talk) 20:04, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Creating user CSS pages

I would like to know how to create user CSS pages. Ameerthewolf ^{(talk to me} 19:47, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Please, see Help:User style. Ruslik_Zero 20:29, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

User not found

When i log on I see this:

Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact name. In general, this page should be created and edited by User:Jack Massing. If in doubt, please verify that "Jack Massing" exists.

I exist, and I am attempting to publish an article about myself. Please direct to a solution. I am confused. Jack Massing (talk) 21:53, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

In short, don't. See WP:AUTOBIO. If you are noteworthy enough for a Wikipedia article, someone will make one about you eventually. Bruto (talk) 22:04, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Your user page is at User:Jack Massing (also accessible by clicking on the red link in your signature). Simply go there and edit the page. However, please note that user pages are to describe relavent information about yourself to other editors to help with collaborative editing. It is not some sort of social media where you can announce to the world how important you believe you are. See WP:USER for guidance. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 22:08, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Undrar om en presentation av undertecknad vore rimlig, se sidan Onkel_a

Ja, vad tror ni som har koll? Svarar ni på Onkel_a - sidan? Onkel a (talk) 22:33, 25 November 2023 (UTC)