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August 29

Including a Task force on a Wikiproject Template

I've been trying to include this task force into this Wikiproject template. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Magiciandude (talk) 05:30, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Since {{WikiProject Latin America}} calls {{WPBannerMeta}}, you probably need to look at the documentation under Template:WPBannerMeta#Task forces. If the base template can do what you want, then it's a question of whether the wrapper template lets you have the features you want from the base template. If you want more specific help, make a user subpage with your best attempt, so somebody can see what you tried. --Teratornis (talk) 23:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Major Bones , Muscles , Muscles Joints and Joint actions involved in Baseball batting.

I am Currently doing a PE course of study for my HSC and for my Area of study and I need to Know about the Major Bones , Muscles , Muscles Joints and Joint actions involved in Baseball batting. This is so I can write an essay on how to optimize performance in Batting and what their biomechanical principles that apply to batting.

Any extra info or links is super appreciated! Thanks guys. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.39.13.5 (talk) 05:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Please do your own homework.

Welcome to the Wikipedia Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here to not do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems.
Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can search Wikipedia or search the Web.
If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Wikipedia. Protector of Wiki (talk) 05:49, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

mounting my information on Wikipedia

Resolved

 – User page speedily deleted as spam and username spamblocked. – ukexpat (talk) 14:37, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I entered my personal info so as to become a Wikipedia contributor. I wrote a Wikipedia page for the Alpha Tau Gamma fraternity in Amherst, Mass. I reviewed it. It looked OK. When I log out and log back in to type Alpha Tau Gamma, I do not find what I entered? Where is my text? Alphataugamma (talk) 13:37, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

It's here User:Alphataugamma but at the moment I'd advise you not to try to move it into userspace as it's likely to be deleted. You might want to ask the people here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities for advice. Dougweller (talk) 13:44, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

is my signature appropriate?

fuck u ya cunts! (talk) 14:02, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

changed it Maccker (talk) 14:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

I will block you if you continue to flail around doing strange things and gratuitously throwing around cunt and fuck for no particular reason. I don't give a shit about curses. That's not the issue and Wikipedia is not censored, but the intent of your edits thus far appear to have no legitimate purpose but to get a reaction, i.e., you had no legitimate purpose in choosing that name, and your question here is a pretext to display it again after you were told to change it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:19, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

User has been indeffed as a sockpuppet by another admin.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

template for unbreakable space but without conversion

Hello. I asked some days back for a template inserting unbreakable spaces between numbers and their unit. I was answered to use the {{convert}} template, which is indeed a good choice in many occasions. Unfortunately, I found that I cannot use it for some units, as V, which are not understood by {{convert}}, probably since they do not usually need to be converted. Do you know of a template that I could use in this occasion ? Otherwise, wouldn't it be a good idea to create one ? Thanks in advance. Freewol (talk) 16:02, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know about a template; but are you aware that if you select "Wiki markup" in the drop-down menu below an edit window and click on " ", a nonbreaking space will be inserted where your cursor is positioned in the edit window? Deor (talk) 16:11, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, why would you need to convert Volts? If this is a relatively common need, it might be possible to update the {{convert}} template. Intelligentsium 18:30, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

You can also insert a nonbreaking space with {{nbsp}} or {{Spaces}}. --Teratornis (talk) 23:19, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for you answers. I'm not wanting to convert volts, just wanting a template to insert correct unbreakable spaces. I understand that there are already means to do it, such as menu below editing window (but I don't think that it is faster than typing " " directly), or using template {{nbsp}}, so I guess there is no need at the moment for a simple "{{unit}}" template. I'll come back and ask if I need more, again ;) Freewol (talk) 12:26, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Use {{val}}. Jimp 12:07, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Requests for feedback

After an article is given to "Request for review" what happens to it? I posted one entitled "Periodic Systems of Molecules" on 13 August and I cannot determine that anything has been done ... the only information that I have been able to obtain is that there is a bocklog. Thank you in advance for your help.Negovori (talk) 16:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)Negovori

I've added a heading for this query. The request that Negovori refers to is at Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/2010 August 13#User:Negovori/Periodic Systems of Molecules. Deor (talk) 16:52, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Please note that Requests for feedback is patrolled by only a few regulars (more always welcome - I will get back into it when I can), so there can be a back log of several days, sometimes a week or more. – ukexpat (talk) 14:39, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Saint Julian of Norwich :

Are the writings of Saint Julian of Norwich now available in print ? If so, where and how titled ? 89.241.220.122 (talk) 18:32, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

This help desk intended for those asking for help with using Wikipedia, but I suggest you explore the links at Julian of Norwich and Revelations of Divine Love. The text is online here and is published in print by Penguin Classics. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:35, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Why is it "...likely to be deleted..."?

mounting my information on Wikipedia I entered my personal info so as to become a Wikipedia contributor. I wrote a Wikipedia page for the Alpha Tau Gamma fraternity in Amherst, Mass. I reviewed it. It looked OK. When I log out and log back in to type Alpha Tau Gamma, I do not find what I entered? Where is my text? Alphataugamma (talk) 13:37, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

It's here User:Alphataugamma but at the moment I'd advise you not to try to move it into userspace as it's likely to be deleted. You might want to ask the people here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities for advice. Dougweller (talk) 13:44, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

I am now at the Fraternities & Sororities section. Please look at what Dougweller says "It's here..." May it be moved into userspace? Why is it "...likely to be deleted..."? Alphataugamma (talk) 19:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Your username appears to violate the WP:ORGNAME policy. Also see Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. --Teratornis (talk) 20:01, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

How can an active editor have no edits logged?

Seeing an article re-appear full-formed after it was once deleted for a WP:COPYVIO, I checked to see if the editor responsible for the deleted article was also the author of its reincarnation. Imagine my surprise to find that User:Rrshum, the author of the deleted version, has no user contributions despite having created two articles, Tuff City Records and, per the warning on his talk page, Aaron Fuchs. The tools on the User Contributions page give an edit count of 13, and no articles created. So, what gives? How can User:Rrshum create two articles and still have no user contributions? Did the audit trail just disappear into the Memory Hole? Yappy2bhere (talk) 19:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Deleted contributions are not visible to non-administrators, but are still in the database and will thus still be counted by edit counters, and records such as CSD/PROD/AFD notices will still exist. If these articles were deleted, then you will not be able to see edits to them in the editor's contribution history, but they will still appear in edit counters. Intelligentsium 20:02, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

So, this editor only edited articles that are now deleted? Or do I still misunderstand what I'm seeing? Yappy2bhere (talk) 20:14, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

That's correct - as Intelligentsium says, the mismatch between the User Contributions page and the edit counter is because the articles have been deleted. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:41, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Weird, but now I understand. Thank you. Yappy2bhere (talk) 21:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

As an administrator I can confirm that Rrshum has 3 deleted edits to Aaron Fuchs and 10 deleted edits to a former article at Tuff City Records. All edits were made 10 April 2008, the day the account was created. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:21, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Here is an edit counter that lets mere mortals see that User:Rshum has 13 deleted edits. The output of that tool is more interesting for users who have some non-deleted edits. --Teratornis (talk) 23:11, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Copyright Material

The body of the page Kohlu certainly looked a copy paste work. Probing more into it I found that it has been copied from here. This is copyright material. Under what license is this material available?

Regrads OmerKhetran (talk) 21:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually, it appears to be just the opposite. Blurbwire appears to be a mirror of enwiki, therefore, it is that website's fault. Also, I think that that is not allowed, and that an admin or a Foundation member should contact them about it. _{But I could be wrong...}  A p3rson ‽ 21:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Mirrors are allowed, but attribution is required for CC-BY-SA compliance. This site, if it is a copy of Wikipedia and not the other way around, is an undocumented mirror (which is not a concern in itself), and more importantly, may be in violation of Wikipedia's copyright with "Copyright 2010, Discovery Media" at the bottom and no mention of Wikipedia or the CC-BY-SA licence. There is a brief mention of Wikipedia as a source on their front page, but I don't think that's sufficient. Intelligentsium 21:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Just throwing this in here: The mirror, at the bottom of every page, links to a "sources" page, in which they list Wikipedia as one of the sources of their content, in addition to the content being licensed under the GFDL. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 00:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Archiving

How can I start automatic archiving of my talk page? MR. PreZ 23:47, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

See Help:Archiving a talk page. Dismas|^(talk) 23:52, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

And how can I get links to archive pages to show up in the box at the top of of the page? MR. PreZ 00:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, forget that I even asked that question, I've figured out how to do this on my own. MR. PreZ 00:36, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

August 30

Problem with image file

Could someone please take a look at Assignation_ruble#Four_series? The image there refuses to load. What am I doing wrong? Here's the image in question [1]. --Dyuku (talk) 00:10, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Try uploading the file to Commons. It should work from there. Bk314159 (talk) 00:21, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

And I thought it was already at Commons! :)

Is there an easy way to do this? --Dyuku (talk) 02:29, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Now I've finally figured out how to do it, but it wasn't easy! --Dyuku (talk) 03:08, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

United States presidential election, 1896

What's wrong with the lede spacing, and how can it be fixed on this page? Magog the Ogre (talk) 01:00, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I experimented a bit, and I was able to trace the problem down to the infobox. I then looked at the edit history for the infobox template, and found that a user made an edit yesterday to it. I undid their edit, and it looks like it corrected the problem. I'll get in touch with the editor to inform them about it. Thanks for bringing this up, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 01:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Change company logo

How do I change the logo shown for a company's page on wikipedia? The logo shown for the company I work for is not the correct one and I would like to figure out how to change it to the current logo we use. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.148.0.63 (talk) 01:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Logos usually have to be displayed as fair use and be uploaded to the English Wikipedia with an autoconfirmed account. If you post the article name and a link to the correct logo at the official company website then somebody here may be able to do the rest. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:41, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Pasta supremacy

I have noticed that there are not enough articles about pasta on Wikipedia, or they are sadly underdeveloped. I would encourage everyone to come together over the best of all foods. A Wikipedia without at least one featured article on a pasta dish is not a Wikipedia I want to be a part of. Pasta dissidents of the world unite! form of rigatoni, form of linguini; primavera shall be our motto and semolina shall be our saviour, as now as it ever was, pasta is your god and lo shall you suffer if you continue in your errant chef-boy-r-d ways. That is all. I hope I have given you some al dente things to chew over.--71.183.175.115 (talk) 03:48, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

You have identified what you see as a problem. The next step is for you to fix the problem rather than talking about the problem. ~~ GB fan ~~ 04:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

... remembering of course that all the content of a Wikipedia article must be referenced from reliable sources. --ColinFine (talk) 18:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Caboddle Ranch in Florida... not on Wikipedia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax4v-ne0yPo&feature=related —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.233.94.171 (talk) 07:26, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Before this cat rescue charity can be added to Wikipedia, you'll need to demonstrate that it is notable. To do this you will need to find reliable sources that are independent of the charity - typically, coverage in newspapers and such like. Links to youtube and to the charity's own website are not enough by themselves.

Some standard advice on creating an article follows:

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is available to walk you through creating an article, but you will need to create an account to use it. if you don't wish to do so, you can submit a proposal for an article at Articles for Creation.Template:Z26 -- John of Reading (talk) 08:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Moving pages

Having read through WP:MOVE, I'm none the wiser. What's the policy on moving a page (such as a userspace draft) over an existing article? This diff of 28 August moved a user draft over an existing article. Not only did this lose some of the original content (infobox etc.) but the whole revision history before the history has gone. I'm not complaining about the new content – it's a great improvement – but I can't help but feel that such a major edit should be made so quickly. The summary given for the move was that it was a standard operation, but I've never really moved pages to anything other than non-existant pages – even as an admin. Regards, matt (talk) 09:27, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

If you wonder about an admin action then you can start by contacting the admin, for example at User talk:Bishonen#Basildon. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Dear Matt, Clearly, PrimeHunter is right. You should be talking to the moving admin. Regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 13:15, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Ok. I left a message on their talk page at about the same time as my one above, but thought I'd check here in case there's a policy or guideline I've missed. Cheers, matt (talk) 15:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Delete of Userpage by OR or Webspace?

I did a discovery about Hadrians Wall that I would like to discuss with others on WP before a paper. I will create a userpage on it. Can I be sure that the userpage will not be deleted because OR or missuse of WP as webspace provider? That is crucial to know for me. Because a paper or book takes some time and any claim of priority would base on this page.

It may even be needed forever because it can contain much more original info then the paper or the WP article about it. And in WP it may last for longer then at any private site. In a paper I would like to link it too. For the webspace WP would provide (Scans total ca. 20 MB at Commons) it will get crucial source material and some media attention for free. What about it? -- 217.86.123.6 (talk) 11:57, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

If it's not directly related to published information you intend to place in a wikipedia article it might be deleted. I would suggest contacting individual editors and making a note on an appropriate project page which links to another site. Others may disagree with me. --Torchwood Who? (talk) 12:04, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

It will be related to a WP article and help to create one. But it shall contain more details and others shall decide what fit in an article and what shall stay on the userpage only. I would be too POV to decide. -- 217.86.123.6 (talk) 12:28, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Your purposes such as "claim of priority" and "get... some media attention for free" are not legitimate uses of Wikipedia; and you seem to already know that, since as you yourself point out these are violations of guidelines such as no original research and above all Wikipedia is not a webspace provider. If you want to publish your findings, then set up a website of your own; don't be a parasite on ours. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:48, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Or, others will completely agree with me. Bad move doing your project here. Have you tried google docs? It's both free and has collaborative editing tools.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 13:10, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Sorry, but Wikipedia is not an appropriate place for what you want to do. See WP:NOTWEBSPACE as well as WP:OR. And your edits to the talkpage of Hadrian's Wall are also inappropriate, talk pages are not a forum where you can have a general discussion about the subject of the article. You asked for an Administrator's opinion, and you've got one now. There are other ways to do what you want, just not here. Dougweller (talk) 13:53, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Help with blank lines appearing above infobox

I have been playing around with Template:Infobox election/sandbox to change the way the previous/next election years are displayed. My changes are working in some cases but not others. Looking at the testcase examples at Template:Infobox election/testcases, some appear as intended whereas others have 13 blank lines above the infobox (as seen in testcases 3 and 7), but I cannot see what they have in common that is different from the others that work. I'm new to the coding used in tables and infoboxes (steep learning curve), but I have been through the section that I have edited with a fine tooth comb and cannot find where the problem lies. Can someone with more knowledge/experience with infoboxes please help! Thanks in advance. —sroc (talk) 13:14, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

The techie pump is probably the best place to ask for assistance with an issue like this. – ukexpat (talk) 14:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I haven't looked into this very deeply but two concerns I'm seeing are that you're mixing HTML table and MediaWiki table syntax, and probably more relevantly, that you don't have comments (<!-- -->) to prevent a line of whitespace being created every time a conditional is not satisfied. Although they probably shouldn't be, lines of whitespace inside tables (between the tags) sometimes translate to whitespace outside of tables. Intelligentsium 00:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I raised a similar concern, as I sure was confused: #United_States_presidential_election, 1896. Magog the Ogre (talk) 01:04, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Magog the Ogre, thanks for raising it. It was me that made the changes that inadvertently caused the error you saw, which was subsequently brought to my attention thanks to your efforts. Much appreciated!

Intelligentsium, thanks for the comment. I inherited the mix of HTML and MediaWiki code from earlier versions, which has only added to the fun of understanding how it works. What's interesting is that even after I have (I thought) copied the code from the current version of Template:Infobox election to Template:Infobox election/sandbox, the comparisons shown at Template:Infobox election/testcases still have a curious glitch in the same examples (3 and 7), this time being the "Previous President" and "President-elect" names at the bottom of the infobox are missing in the latter versions; oddly, it only affects cases where: (a) the nomclementure is "President"; and (b) the election is over (note example 9 shows "Incumbent President" and "President-elect" fine.

I shall investigate further and post to the techie pump if I cannot figure it out. Thanks for the tip, Ukexpat. —sroc (talk) 11:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Import procedure

Hi, I didn't know about creating articles in the English Wikipedia translated from German articles, so I asked Modernist who recommended creating new (which I did before) and mentioning the fact in the talk page of the article (I only mentioned this in the edit history). I also asked the German specialists about the reasons for their procedure; they had long discussions about it before and maintain that otherwise the risk of copyright infringement is high (Ist dieses Verfahren sinnvoll?). They knew that the English Wikipedia has a similar practice: Wikipedia:Requests for page importation, although not well known. They fear that the English Wikipedia has a high risk of vulnerability due to hidden copyright violation by not importing the history. The discussion page, they argue, may get lost for some reason. --Nobrook (talk) 13:41, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

This is the Help Desk for asking questions about using Wikipedia. If you are asking a question, can you make it clearer please? -- John of Reading (talk) 17:19, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if this helps, but there is a template you are supposed to put on the talk page of translated articles: {{Translated page|de|Name-of-original-German-article}}. This creates a link back to the original article, where the histories (and discussion) can be found. In this way the histories are "included" in the new article for legal copyright purposes and the copyright problem is avoided. Of course, only a German speaker can read the histories of the original article, but this is OK for legal coverage. Herostratus (talk) 02:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

The question is about the right procedure; see User_talk:Modernist#Import_procedure and User_talk:Nobrook#Removal_of_publication (question/Help desk). Obviously, there are different opinions. In Germany, I'm told, we did as advised by Modernist until 2006/2007 (copy-method), but now they use and insist on the import procedure. I used the copy method first for transfers in opposite direction, from German to English, and tried the English import version next; both are fine with me. Obviously, English/American collaborators tolerate both methods. Now how about legal threats allegedly inherent in the copy method, avoided by the import solution? Maybe nobody cares; I certainly don't as all text inserted by me is created by me. To clarify my argument: I used the term discussion page where I should have used talk page; so the argument is that the content of the talk page may be lost due to some reason. Otherwise the template would be great and just fine. --Nobrook (talk) 12:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I NEED AN SVG FILE OF BRADYCARDIA ECG.

File : Tachycardia ECG paper .svg has several ECG's by Madhero88 of various types of cardiac problems - but not of BRADYCARDIA. There is an image of an ECG by someone else but the format is different. Is it possable to contact Madhero and ask him to add an ECG tracing in the same format as the tracing in "File : Tachycardia ECG paper .svg". This is evey important to me.

Thank you.......DF...............

161.185.151.150 (talk) 13:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

You could try asking on Madhero's talk page, but it looks as if that editor is taking a break from Wikipedia.

Can you make your request clearer so that another editor can help?

1. Are you asking for a picture expert to reformat File:Lead II rhythm generated sinus bradycardia.JPG as an SVG file?
2. Are you asking for a cardiology expert to provide an SVG file that looks like File:Tachycardia ECG paper.svg but illustrates Bradycardia instead of Tachycardia?

-- John of Reading (talk) 17:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I messed up checkuser

Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Pastorwayne - Kittybrewster ☎ 13:48, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

 Doing... TNXMan 13:50, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

 Done Your case is now open at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Pastorwayne - please add your evidence there. TNXMan 13:52, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Kittybrewster ☎ 14:21, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I WISH TO HAVE LIST OF FORMER CHIEF JUSTICES OF SUPREME COURT OF INDIA WITH PRESENT CONTACT ADDRESSES,TELEPHONE NUMBER AND E MAIL ID

Dear Sirs,

We the Members/ Managing Committee of Forum For Fast Justice request you to please provide us with all-inclusive list of Former Honorable Chief Justice of The Supreme Court of India. We would like to have The Names of Former Chief Justice of Supreme Court of India with their Present communication addresses, Telephone Numbers, E mail ids etc. The reason is we wish to send them invitation to inaugurate Convention to be held on January 22 & 23 , 2011 at Mumbai. Expecting your co-operation for the Noble Cause. With warm regards Kashyap Vyas <blanked> Managing Committee Member And Life Patron Member of Janhit Manch, Vile-Parle(west),Mumbai . Website :- http://www.janhitmanch.org/ Member of Advisory Council of Forum For Fast Justice , Vile-Parle ,Mumbai. Website :- http://www.fastjustice.org/ Member of The All India Human Rights & Citizen Option , Kandivalee(west),Mumbai. Member of Amnesty International For promoting and upholding human rights around the world! Member of JAGO PARTY  ; New Delhi And Secunderabad weblink :- http://www.jago.in/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Citizensvigilancefoum (talk • contribs) 14:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 TNXMan 14:21, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

A question on the right way to promote any wp-project site

Resolved

 – ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 08:36, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi guys. I generally answer questions on and off out here at the Help Desk. I had one of mine and thought I'll slip in a query here. Just wanted to know what would be the appropriate method to generate participation of editors in any Wikipedia Project one creates... Thanks in advance for the answers. Best regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 14:25, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Just a suggestion, look at the related articles and find the active editors and drop them a note. MilborneOne (talk) 14:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I agree with MilborneOne's advice. You've been around long enough that you are probably familiar with Wikipedia:Canvassing, however, some people erroneously think there is a general prohibition against canvassing. That's not strictly true, it would be better to say that canvassing can be done properly improperly. You didn't mention the subject of the project, but if it is closely related to another project, it might make sense to post a notice at that project and/or contact some of the active members of that project. It might also be appropriate to post a general notice at WP:VPM--SPhilbrickT 17:34, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks guys for the answers. Will do what you mention. Regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 08:36, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

how to flag neutrality issues in article for other editors

Hi - if an article has "good article" standing but overall it appears to adopt a favorable point of view on the subject it discusses by creating straw man arguments to debunk criticism or avoiding spelling out criticisms of the subject, is there a way to flag the overall article for neutrality review? I've seen this done with other articles but am unsure of how and when this is appropriate. The comments on the talk page suggest that other editors have noted certain biases in the article as well but the overall article and the talk page comments suggest that the issues have not been fully addressed. Lpe21 (talk) 19:07, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, generally you can add {{POV}} to the top of the article. However, if you had a certain article in mind, we may be able to give you more specific advice. TNXMan 20:51, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

DVD purchase

Hi,

Thank you ever so much. After years of searching for the 1953 film of Albert RN I have found it.

I had the privalage of caring for John Worsley before he died. Brilliant man.

Now how can I purchase the DVD and how much?

I now live in Florida. Look forward to hearing from you.

Gloria DuVerney —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.34.135.16 (talk) 19:22, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia. We don't sell DVDs here, or, indeed, anything else. To search for a supplier for a particular DVD I suggest you try Google or such like. Best of luck. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:50, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

a new article

hi my names Andy i used to be in a band called memory we were a fairly small band kind of an underground following not major but good enough we were signed and i was wondering how to make an article about us because if we were on here i think we could start recording again by getting our name back out there we were let go from the record company because we didnt have enough fans and we werent that popular —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andym18 (talk • contribs) 23:39, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, in order to have an article on Wikipedia, a band must already be notable. This is not the place to gain a fan base. Xenon54 (talk) 00:04, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

August 31

where do I go on the site to write an article?

There is ample information about how to prepare to write an article, what to include, etc., but where on the site do I go to actually write the article and submit it? Please help...infojunkie 00:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eanimal (talk • contribs)

There's an article wizard that you can use to actually start an article. --SoCalSuperEagle (talk) 00:36, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

What do you want to write about? Wikipedia deletes lots of articles by new users for violating our complex and often unobvious rules for content. See WP:NOT and the notability guidelines. The first question to ask is not "How do I write a new article?" but "Can Wikipedia have an article about topic X?" --Teratornis (talk) 06:36, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

And the second question is "Does Wikipedia already have an article (or a section in an article on a related topic) about topic X?" Deor (talk) 13:08, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

how do i embed a photo?

I'm not given the option to download a photo. How does it recognize where the photo's origin? In other words, how do I download a photo? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eanimal (talk • contribs) 01:21, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

To upload an image to Wikipedia, your account needs to be autoconfirmed - that means that your account needs to be over four days old from the first day you edited, and that you have made at least ten edits. Consider looking into editing some articles to achieve those ten edits; I've left a welcome message on your talk page that offers some help and links that you can check out if need be.

Once you are autoconfirmed, you should see a link in the "Toolbox" tab to the left that says "Upload file". Clicking on it will lead you to the beginning of the process of uploading images. You basically select an image that is stored on your computer, and then insert the relevant information (author, description, source, licensing, etc.) in the various fields provided. Note that the image must follow Wikipedia's guidelines to the uploaded; see Wikipedia:Uploading images for more information. The image you wish to upload must either be freely licensed/in the public domain, or must fall under fair use policy (fair use means that you are allowed to upload images that include movie posters, game covers, company logos, and that sort of thing). Also note that if the image is freely licensed, you should consider uploading it at the Wikimedia Commons - that's where most freely-licensed images go, as they can be used across all Wikimedia projects.

I know that this is a lot, but if you navigate the links and read on, that should really help. If you need further assistance, just ask. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 01:32, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

editing

I saved my article on my user page and would like to edit it. However, the only portion that it is allowing me to edit is the reference section. How do I access the actual article? Thanksinfojunkie 01:51, 31 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eanimal (talk • contribs)

To edit the introduction of the article that isn't placed under its own section, simply click on the "edit" button at the top of the page, placed at the left of the search bar. This will let you edit the entire article at once. For convenience, you can also go to the "My preferences" link at the upper-right, then click on the "Gadgets" tab. Then scroll down to the "User interface gadgets: editing" section and enable " Add an [edit] link for the lead section of a page." This will produce an [edit] link for the lead section of the article and will treat it just like any other section. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 02:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

telugu translation

I heard wikipedia telugu localization is done by some paid translators. where cxani get information —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.132.84 (talk) 05:38, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

There is a Telugu Wikipedia if that's what you mean. See the links under WP:EIW#Translate for more information about translating Wikipedia articles to and from various languages. I don't know anything about paid translators; on all the Wikipedias I have heard about, contributors are generally volunteers. However, occasionally a philanthropist will donate money to the Wikimedia Foundation to be used for specific purposes, so if somebody wanted to fund a translation project and hire translators, nothing would stop them from donating money to do it (if they had the money, of course). What is the word "cxani"? Is that a typo for "can I"? --Teratornis (talk) 06:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Disrupting

There is somebody who is systematically disrupting my editing at the discussion page of Cadmus. Please tell him to stop!!!!Aldrasto11 (talk) 06:36, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I can't see any disruption, can you be more specific? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 07:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

The only account that has edited that page after you has been User:Sinebot who has been signing your posts to that page for you. To avoid this, simply sign your posts yourself by typing four tildes (e.g. ~~~~). Dismas|^(talk) 07:20, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

please help me we have already established orphan home but economically lift up the possibiletes

dear sir please kindly inform me about details of orphanages and child care development. thanking you your sincerely, K.jacob email address: (redacted) I am awaiting soon for your kindly reply. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.246.144.32 (talk) 07:49, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! The best place to ask your question would be on the reference desk, although you may want to clarify what exactly you would like to know. Might our articles on orphanages and child development (particularly the "references" and "further reading" sections) help you? — QuantumEleven 08:20, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

HIGH YIELD INVESTMENT PROGRAM-

How about the FALION INVESTMENT- which offers as high as 92 % interest- is it a legal internet investment company; ( FALION.COM)--119.82.252.53 (talk) 08:14, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

• Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 08:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Also see Ponzi scheme and Investment risk. --Teratornis (talk) 17:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Reference formatting in mephedrone

Could someone please advise me on how to reference different page numbers in a long source each time the source is used? I'd like to note the page number when reference 9 in mephedrone is used but WP:CITE is pretty confusing! I think I've seen a format where the first occurrence would have the full reference, and then future occurrences can just be a page number, but it also links back to the first reference. If someone could change it in the article and just add a random page number then I can go back and fill in the correct page number.

Whilst I'm here, could someone also take a look at THC#Toxicity and see if they can get the .gif to animate correctly? I think the problem is related to scaling as when I take "thumb" out of the code it rotates, but then I can't get it to have a caption. Thanks Smartse (talk) 11:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

With standard footnotes, you can reuse cites by use of named references, but each cite will be the same. You can add an in-text page number using {{rp}}. You may also be interested in shortened footnotes. BTW: That quote in #7 neds to be worked into the text; it is never appropriate to use a pull quote inside a reference. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 14:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

the good old format

After looking at 20 links, I still can't find the place to request my return to the old format. I must be pretty stupid, because this is the third month that I have to do it. It's REALLY annoying that you revert to your new default every 30 days, when I want to use the old format FOREVER. This is not good service! So please remind me how to do it, and if you have to continue reverting to the new format, at least put this information someplace prominent on the first page so I don't have to spend a 1/2 hour searching for it! The way I'm viewing this page now is the way I want to keep it. Where did it come from? Search box on the left near the top, please, ALWAYS. Thank you very much. 13:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conglo (talk • contribs)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences. Click Appearance tab and set skin(likely MonoBook) as desired and save. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 13:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

At the top of any page, to the left of the links to your user page, talk page, contributions, etc., there should be a link named "Take me back". By clicking on it (or the "New features" link next to it), you can return yourself to the old skin. Deor (talk) 13:54, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Removing an incorrect link.

On the page related to the Usher of the Black Rod for Canada, a link to a wiki page is indicated for Col. Jean Doré. It links to a Quebec political figure of the same name, but they are not the same person. How do I remove the link? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.197.82.203 (talk) 15:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I've fixed it, you can see how by clicking here. By adding (usher) it makes it a red link and therefore won't link to Jean Doré anymore, it still says Jean Doré though because I used a hatnote to hide the usher part. If there's a better way to distinguish them than "usher" then feel free to change it to something else. Smartse (talk) 15:35, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually that was a pipe not a hatnote. – ukexpat (talk) 16:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Note at top of article - should it be there?

Hi, whilst editing a related article, I came across an article (Shakespeare authorship question) with a large blue-box note at the top of the article, informing that the article is currently being updated. Is this correct or should it be on the talk page? Thanks for any knowledgeable advice. Jamesinderbyshire (talk) 15:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

That looks OK. Likely, the active editors of the article would like to notify users that they are working on a major rewrite, and discourage them from editing the main article as their efforts will likely be removed soon. There are templates such as {{Inuse}} or {{Underconstruction}} that notify users of similar situations; they are also placed in the article body. If those templates were placed on the talkpage, no one would ever notice them, especially new or anonymous users who may not know to look there. Xenon54 (talk) 15:35, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the info! Jamesinderbyshire (talk) 15:49, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

my username is not allowing access

i use 'pinkgenome' as my username. when i enter it, i am told it already used. i cant get an email sent to tell me the password. what is wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.210.159 (talk) 17:32, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

The username Pinkgenome was created last year. Is this your account that you registered previously, or would you like to register this name? TNXMan 17:35, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

text from wikia

Hi. I'm going to use some text from http://tractors.wikia.com , I understand that I need to leave a message:

This article uses material from the "xxxx" article on the Tractor & Construction Plant Wiki at Wikia and is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike License.

But where? on the main page, or talk page. Also is there anything else needed? Sf5xeplus (talk) 17:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Use that message in the edit summary when you add the text to an article. That is all that is needed. --Mysdaao ^talk 18:54, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Done that at Priestman Brothers . Thanks. Sf5xeplus (talk) 19:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Resolved

Temporarily not online much?

Is there a template I could put on my userpage to tell people that I am temporarily not much online?-- 18:21, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

{{Wikibreak}} or you may find a more suitable one in Category:User talk header templates. – ukexpat (talk) 18:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Oh, and sorry by the way. I do not know why, but I think my English is really messed up today.--Greatgreenwhale (talk) 18:30, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

There are a huge number of Wikibreak templetes at WP:Wikibreak, covering almost every possible situation. Equisetum (talk | email | contributions) 14:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Tunecrank (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Need assistance at the above article's talk page. The uploading user is querying my speedy deletion nominationg of the page for WP:CSD#A7: non-notable website. The query is how to show the verifiability of independent bands, where they are ususally only heard about through social networking (I think that's what he's saying). With it comes the accusation that Wikipedia by virtue of its own policies is only supporting the big guys and not the little guys. I'm a bit out of my depth now and wouldn't mind some assistance from a user with more experience in this area. -- role^player 18:35, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Looks like it's been deleted. The creator can take it it to deletion review if they so wish. – ukexpat (talk) 19:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

this is checked Resolved - it is not resolved - my work is not on Wikipedia

mounting my information on Wikipedia

Resolved: User page speedily deleted as spam and username spamblocked. – ukexpat (talk) 14:37, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I entered my personal info so as to become a Wikipedia contributor. I wrote a Wikipedia page for the Alpha Tau Gamma fraternity in Amherst, Mass. I reviewed it. It looked OK. When I log out and log back in to type Alpha Tau Gamma, I do not find what I entered? Where is my text? Alphataugamma (talk) 13:37, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

It's here User:Alphataugamma but at the moment I'd advise you not to try to move it into userspace as it's likely to be deleted. You might want to ask the people here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities for advice. Dougweller (talk) 13:44, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

I am now at the Fraternities & Sororities section. Please look at what Dougweller says "It's here..." If it is here, I cannot find it. I have saved a copy. May my copy be moved into userspace? Why is it "...likely to be deleted..." 71.232.104.236 (talk) 20:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

The answer is in your post (links added): "User page speedily deleted as spam". Your draft article was seen by someone and classed as blatant advertising, then subsequently deleted.

The "Resolved" group of templates do not relate to the outcome of the discussion, rather they identify the activity level. For example, "Resolved" simply means the question is "finished" and does not require any more attention, while "Stale" means the opposite: that the question has not been answered or discussion has been left unfinished for an extended period of time.

You may try again with your saved copy, but most articles that are deleted as spam require heavy editing before they are even close to being acceptable. I suggest you read the notability guidelines for organizations; if your fraternity does not meet that (and most do not), then you should not bother trying again, as you cannot change whether a topic is notable or not, and articles about non-notable topics are always deleted. Xenon54 (talk) 20:18, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

By the way, in addition to the many problems with the article as posted, it was also a copyright violation of this text, and even if you own the copyright to that content, we couldn't use it (were it appropriate) unless you released it into the public domain or under a free license.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Hoax

Tazzella is a hoax; only exist here and in es_WP, and was created by the same author, who curiosly uploaded the same stolen photo as "own work" in Commons. In es_WP we have a template "destroy|reason", but I´m not sure if applys here. Does it? Or what must I do to ask for destroy it? Thanks. --Andreateletrabajo (talk) 23:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

If you think it is a hoax, you must have reasonable proof that it is such. After that, you could open a case against it(read the criteria for speedy deletion policy, it may barely fall under g3). However, there isn't much to work off of it here, so you may be out of luck.  A p3rson ‽ 23:38, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the burden of any challenged material is on the person who seeks to keep it to source it with reliable inline citations after someone questions its veracity. Also speedy deletion is not the only tool. In this case, though a G3 might possibly be acted upon, articles for deletion is an appropriate forum where any article can be taken to seek deletion on the merits, as opposed to speedy deletion, which, because it is deletion without discussion, is very restricted in its ambit. I have just done some due diligence (see WP:BEFORE) and have not found any source substantiating this topic, so I'm going to take it to AfD now.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Ok thanks a lot. I deliver this matter in hour hands. --Andreateletrabajo (talk) 00:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tazzella.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:20, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia logo

Where is the code that puts the Wikipedia logo at the top left of each page? How can one change this logo (in another language Wikipedia)? --Redaktor (talk) 23:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

September 1

Steve Sandvoss Section Blanking

This question relates to one of those areas where Wikipedia policy is unclear (to me). An editor tagged the Sandvoss article back in April as needing additional sources. Then, today, he blanked the section on Sandvoss's early life (which had no sources at all). The issue is whether the blanking is appropriate. BLP policy states that all unsourced "contentious" material should be removed immediately. However, it doesn't say what you are supposed to do with unsourced non-contentious material. The editor who removed the material didn't challenge the statements in the section. In my view, even with a warning tag, unchallenged material should not be deleted wholesale without first attempting to reach a consensus on the Talk page of the article pursuant to WP:NOBLANKING. Mind you, I have no stake in the material. I didn't create any of it. However, the truth is that many articles about BLPs have unsourced, non-contentious material, and no one removes it, at least not an entire section. I was going to revert the change but decided to pose the question here instead to see if anyone has any comments on the issue generally and with respect to Sandvoss in particular.

As an aside, what causes some section blankings to be tagged and others not?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:01, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Wow, I've never seen that essay before. There's some rather extreme cherry picking going on there to reach a large brush conclusion actually unsupported by canonical policy. Please see WP:BURDEN. This is part of one of our core content policies and cannot be overruled. Yes, negative, unsourced material in BLP's needs to be removed immediately, and yes, any contentious unsourced material (whether positive or negative) and all quotations must be sourced using an inline citation, but in addition, i.e., separate and apart from this,

Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed, but how quickly this should happen depends on the material and the overall state of the article. Editors might object if you remove material without giving them time to provide references. It has always been good practice to make reasonable efforts to find sources yourself that support such material, and cite them.

While the user did tag the article as a BLP needing additional sources for verification, it would have been better if the user had added something like {{disputed-section}} or fact tags at the end of each paragraph he was disputing, but he absolutely can simply remove, and the burden is on those seeking to add it back to source it. This is fundamental and really, without it we are lost, for lack of sourcing is our number one problem.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:13, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

WP:BURDEN leaves a fair amount of wiggle room, too, actually. In any event, if an editor can remove unsourced material, even if it's not contentious, then the BLP policy should be changed to say so. I understand when you add material to a preexisting, well-established article, the burden is on the adder to source the material. However, if an editor can simply create that burden on a subsequent restorer by removing material, that's kind of cock-eyed. At this point, you might as well delete the entire Sandvoss article. There's only one source in it. The rest has nothing. I might also add that although I sympathize with your statement that lack of sourcing is a major problem, if we were to let loose a bot on Wikipedia whose sole mission was to remove all unsourced material, we'd save a LOT of disk space. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 01:23, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

There's a difference between blanking vandalism or a bot simply removing unsourced material willy-nilly, and a WP:V challenge to material on the basis of sourcing, and subsequent removal. They are very different things and must not be conflated, which is exactly what's wrong with that essay. Contentious is anything a person challenges. That is how it has been long interpreted. The proof of the soundness of the policy is that whenever an unsourced article of any length, with particularized facts is sourced, it is always found to be wanting. It always has mistakes, misleading material, half truths and so on. When we look at WP:BURDEN in practice, it cannot be used to simply blank entire articles because we then know the challenge is not in good faith. I have seen this play out. There's a balance that's reached, but without the wide stretch of this section of policy, we would be forced to show any unsourced material we wanted to remove was not true, negative evidence, often impossible to find, would be the only basis for removing seemingly neutral facts. This would destroy us.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I agree that the word contentious can be interpreted to mean challenged. However, removing existing material because of a generalized challenge (meaning no explanation as to the reason for the challenge other than the material is unsourced) is effectively the same as my extreme example. I'll just change my scenario slightly. We send a bot out to tag all unsourced material. The bot waits four months and then removes any of the previously challenged material if it has not been sourced. Going back to Sandvoss, what is the appropriate period to leave the warning up? Three months? One month? A week? And what must be sourced? What about the person's birth date? Birth place? Let's take a BLP who's far more notable than Sandvoss. In the Early life section of the Julia Roberts article there's a tag from March 2008 (!) about lack of sourcing. One unsourced sentence in the section says: "Her mother re-married to Michael Motes and had another daughter, Nancy Motes, who was born in 1976." Putting aside the grammar problem, shouldn't that sentence be removed? Should all the unsourced passages in the Roberts article be removed? There are 301 watchers of that page (as opposed to Sandvoss who has fewer than 30). If I started picking unsourced sentences and removing them, I might be shot.:-) By contrast, if someone added unsourced material to Roberts, and I reverted it, few would disagree. Maybe the only reason the Sandvoss article can be blanked is because no one cares that much, or maybe it's a little selective enforcement.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:58, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

There is no timeframe that someone must wait before removing unsourced material. It is best to give a reasonable amount of time, (unless it is negative info about a living person then it should come out immediately) but reasonable is up to each individual editor and what the information is. I don't agree that an editor making a decision to remove unsourced information is no different than a bot tagging unsourced statements and then at some preset time going back and removing them. The bot, as far as I am concerned, would be vandalism, because there is no thought going into what goes and stays. If there is tagged unsourced info that you feel should come out of Julia Roberts then remove it or try to source it if you think it is helpful. If no one has bothered to source a statement in over 2 years it is one of two things IMO. One no one can find a source or two, no one cares enough about the info to find a source, either way it should probably go. ~~ GB fan ~~ 15:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

In the Sandvoss case, I see no difference between the editor's tag and removal and a bot's tag and removal. The editor gave no specific reason for tagging or for removal. The bot could easily be programmed to do the same thing. As far as your suggestion about Roberts, you have an excellent point, but I'm not taking the bait. :-) I don't feel like having rocks thrown at me. My point was that there is a significant difference between unsourced material being caught at the time it is added and unsourced material being caught much later. In theory, both should go, but in practice there's a presumption for leaving the preexisting material, or at least having more discussion before removing it, rather than just citing policy. My other point was that there's a difference between a relatively unknown BLP and a famous BLP in the way this issue is handled.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

There are other possible explanations for the difference in how those two articles have been handled. One possible explanation is that different editors are watching the two articles and those editors handle the same situation different ways. It doesn't have to be about the popularity of the subjects or when the material was added. I know to me it does not make any difference. I probably wouldn't remove the text from either one of these articles, but that is just me. ~~ GB fan ~~ 16:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, but the popularity of an article affects how many watchers there are. When you have editors handling an issue in different ways regarding a popular article, there is a greater likelihood of disagreement and discussion (whether consensus is truly reached is a different animal), whereas in an article of less interest with fewer watchers, that kind of healthy debate is unlikely to take place.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:58, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Certainly an appropriate blanking. Source BLPs or don't include information, it's that simple. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 06:19, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, if you come across an unsourced BLP you should stub it. Best to have no information on BLPs rather than incorrect information. The burden for sourcing is on the person adding information not the person removing. --Cameron Scott (talk) 15:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Kip Morgan

I created a page on Kip Morgan - a detective character created by Louis L'Amour. However, I mistakenly wrote "Kip morgan", instead of "Kip Morgan" in the title. Now, however hard I try, I can't change the title from "Kip morgan" to "Kip Morgan", i.e. I can't make the small "m" a capital "M".

Kazimostak Wikipedia contributor and reader (<e-mail removed>) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.49.40.141 (talk) 08:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I have moved the article to the proper name. Please note that the quotation in the article must have a citation provided. You can do so by adding <ref>description of source.</ref> right where I have added (and in place of) the tag that looks like this: ^{[citation needed]} I have already added the markup that will render that reference code a footnote in the article. In that regard, a Google book search indicates to me that this quote may be from The Hills of Homicide, but I cannot confirm. The best information would be name of work, author, year, publisher, page number and isbn.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:27, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I have removed your e-mail address to protect your privacy. Bk314159 (talk) 13:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: University of Bath

I am posting this here, at the suggestion of the talk page for "Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: University of Bath" (the text disappears if I try to link it)
Why does the top line on that page say

Classification: Wikipedians: by alma mater: United States: University of Bath

Last time I looked, the University of Bath was in England not the United States
Arjayay (talk) 08:47, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

To make a link to a category, you need to add a ":" after the opening brackets, so you get Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: University of Bath. I have fixed the problem by adding "|country=England" to the template that produces that display. Bencherlite^Talk 08:55, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 09:04, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

page deleted - Amotz Shemi

Hi,

If a page was deleted "Amotz Shemi" is there a way to restore it or do I need to start a new page?

Thanks,

Gili Silenseed (talk) 08:57, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia! As an administrator, I can check deleted articles and I notice that Amotz Shemi is said to be the CEO of Silenseed Ltd. I strongly suggest that you do not write an article about this person, because your username makes me believe that you have a conflict of interest here. See WP:Conflict of interest for guidance. It would also probably be a good idea to change your username, because using a company name as your username gives the impression, firstly, that the account could be used for promotional purposes (which is not permitted) and secondly, that the account might be used by more than one person, which again is not permitted (see WP:NOSHARE). Bencherlite^Talk 09:04, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Deleted page

Hi,

if a page that i did not create was deleted is there any way I can see it or place it again?

thanks,

Gili Gilifocht (talk) 09:15, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

If you are still talking about the same article as the section above, then it was deleted by WP:PROD. Articles deleted that way are supposed to be undeleted upon request. You can either request it from the deleting admin, DMacks or at WP:REFUND. It should be restored just by asking. ~~ GB fan ~~ 09:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

(e/c) Only administrators can see deleted content (to the extent it is not cached on Google or otherwise reproduced somewhere offsite) but you can ask for deleted content to be provided to you so that it can work on to improve (see Wikipedia:Userfication). However, only some content is suitable for this. For example, copyright violations and attack pages are never undeleted. All this is assuming we can find the deleted article. On that score, the deletion log is very finicky, requiring the exact name of the article that was deleted and is case sensitive. So in order for us to locate the article you either have to provide that exact name, or give us good identifying information such as when the deletion occurred, what administrator deleted it, what user created it, what user tagged it for deletion, and so on.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:04, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Featured Template

Why don't we have Featured Template?--Extra 999 (Contact ^me + _contribs) 11:57, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Featured content is an identification of material that is to be highlighted for our readers as fine encyclopedic work. Templates are behind the scenes material. Essentially, if it has no place being on the main page for view by the world at large, flagging it as "featured" is a non sequitur.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Or Valued Template, Good Template. --Extra 999 (Contact ^me + _contribs) 12:18, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Not everything with "Featured" in the title appears on the main page: lists, topics and portals don't, for instance. Bencherlite^Talk 12:23, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

But they could, the point being that they're part of the front end of the encyclopedia.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:29, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Featured redirects. Bencherlite^Talk 13:31, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Awesome link!--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Track ISBN usage on Wikipedia?

How can I track how many times a source has been referenced? For example, if a book has the ISBN 0-19-511001-5 is there a way to determine how many articles it has been cited in, and also the names of those articles? Chicaneo (talk) 12:31, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

There may be a better way, but I just used a regular Wikipedia search for the isbn of a book I've used many times and it seems to have found many if not all examples.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I had orginally provided a isbn that ended with a 3 but I fixed it now. I'll try your suggestion with the correct #. Thx. Chicaneo (talk) 12:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Still didn't work, so I changed it back to the cloth edition # which ends in 5. Chicaneo (talk) 12:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

OK- tried it with different book & it works just fine. Thanks again. Chicaneo (talk) 12:45, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Anytime. I just converted the reference to its isbn 13. By the way, a great tool when seeking proper hyphenation of isbns, and finding isbn 13 equivalents of isbn 10s is ISBN Converter. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Mistakes in an article

Dear Sir, Madam, The article posted at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC_Joint_Technology_Initiative contains many mistakes and inconsistencies about the description of our organisation. We need to replace this article with the correct descritpion of ENIAC JU. The description is on our website: http://www.eniac.eu/web/JU/aboutENIACju.php , you can see that it greatly differs from the article posted on wikipedia. Could you please advise how to remove and replace this article? Thank you, Regards

Claire Gerardin <blanked> —Preceding unsigned comment added by ENIACJU (talk • contribs) 14:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

• Kindly read our conflict of interest guidelines to understand why, preferably, you should not be undertaking these changes yourself on the said page. Do also read our copyright policy which might prohibit any Wikipedia editor from reusing contents from your web site. To suggest changes to the article, kindly use the talk page of the ENIAC article. I find one such message already in place. Do wait for a response and consensus on your proposed changes. Write back for any further assistance. Regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 18:17, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Map

Dear Sir, Madam I work for the AMNRL and we would like to put a map with our teams on it with a link to their Wiki pages like the map on the NFL page. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.245.6.46 (talk) 15:17, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

• In case you are requesting any Wikipedia editor to help you create such a map for your internet website, this is not the forum to request such help. This page is only for asking questions about using Wikipedia. You could, and should, employ web designers to undertake what you desire. Please feel free to write back for any help you might require with using Wikipedia. Regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 18:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I think the poster is asking for help creating a map similar to the one at NFL#Current NFL teams. – ukexpat (talk) 18:14, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Why is it when i add something to another article, the next time i check it, it is gone?

It is so annoying when that happens —Preceding unsigned comment added by StellaBloomMusaFloraLaylaTecna (talk • contribs) 15:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Because you are spamming Wikipedia, attempting to introduce your email address into articles. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Violin with Wilhelmj imprinted on back.

Can you give us any information regarding this full size (4/4) violin with Wilhelmj imprinted on back at the neck end? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.206.187.12 (talk) 16:53, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 --Orange Mike | Talk 16:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Incidently, we have an article about the violinist August Wilhelmj - and the Baiba Skride article mentions She plays the Stradivarius "Wilhelmj" violin (1725). -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 21:02, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Category sorting

hi i am rmplymouth1 and i have been updating the ben ferguson (footballer) page. However, when i go into the categories at the bottom of the section everybody elses comes up under the letter of their surname. for example, under 'A' it would come up with Simon Anderson, Mike Atherton, etc. I should come under 'F' but I am coming under the 'B' section. HELP!!! please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.87.143.3 (talk) 16:57, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

It just needed a default sort key, which is done using {{DEFAULTSORT:Lastname, Firstname}}. I have added one, so Ben Ferguson (footballer) will be sorted under F in the categories the article is in. --Mysdaao ^talk 17:10, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Why are you saying "I"? Are you Ben Ferguson? Everard Proudfoot (talk) 20:05, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

What is philosophy of kaaba?

i know some one who keeps saying that kaaba is a black stone and arabs made it for their profit so that muslims travel there and they make money out of it. he does not accep the history or the basic information that everymuslim has.

so how can i make him shut up?

and when i wanted to research about this on the google, i found out that some websites says that kaaba is used to be a hindo temple and if muslimes says we should not worship the stone, they why they themsleves kiss and touch and worship the stone?

it made me think aren't they right that why we kiss the stone, we beleive that Allah is with us and in our hearts so why we go there saying its Allah's home or kiss the stone?

i will apprecaite if some one help me get out of this confusion.

regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.227.23.44 (talk) 20:16, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.Template:Z38 TNXMan 20:19, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Also, have you read the Kaaba article? Perhaps that can help, or some of the 48 references, 10 "Further reading" items or one of the 5 external links may be of some use. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 20:59, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Donate content of web site to article

Premission was give to donate the content of the web site to the page for Gar Francis —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mgrimme507 (talk • contribs) 20:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

• Have you read "Copyright owners who submitted their own work to Wikipedia"? That explains how permission can be given to allow re-use of the web site content on Wikipedia. As you will appreciate, anyone can say "I have permission to use this content" - however, for legal reasons, the WikiMedia Foundation require more than just a user's word. Incidently, even with such permission, it is still preferable for an article on Wikipedia to be in the editors' own words, rather than a verbatim copy from a website. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 20:57, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

pepperdine university article

The article has a rankings box which list Forbes as indicating that Pepperdine is ranked #363. The fact is that Forbes ranked the university in america's best colleges as #142. Please correct.

Thanks,

Chris