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Reading and correcting spelling/grammar

Hi.

I am interested for now in reading the articles and checking for spelling and grammatical errors. Is this type of task available?

Yes! Thanks for offering to help with this neverending task. See WP:TYPO to start. In the see also section there is a link to other projects related to cleanup like this. RudolfRed (talk)

Based on your interests (especially if you are looking for pages to start), you might want to take a look at the Articles Needing Copyedit and the Wikipedia articles needing cleanup after translation. Best regards, Darwin Naz (talk) 02:58, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Help with template

Moved to User:Xinbenlv/Help with template

Dear friendly editors.

Can anyone help me edit this Template:Inconsistent Birthday? Basically, the purpose is to allow pass in multiple (ideally, indefinite number of) entries of InterWikiLinks and Birthdays as variables of the template, and use it on Talk page.

It looks like this right now

{{Inconsistent Birthday}} Xinbenlv (talk) 07:26, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Xinbenlv. Because templates can affect lots of pages (sometimes in not so obvious ways) and the syntax involved can be a bit complicated, you might get better feedback from experienced template editors by asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates or even Wikipedia:Village Pump/Technical instead. Moreover, you should be aware that templates which have little encyclopedic value or are redundant to exisiting template can end up being nominated for deletion at WP:TFD if they don't comply with Wikipedia:Template namespace for some reason. I'm not saying that's the case here, but just pointing it out in case you weren't aware of it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:42, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you that's very helpful. I will ask over there. Xinbenlv (talk) 07:45, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Notice: Teahouse navigation aid added

To help editors move from the bottom of the Teahouse page back to the top, and vice versa, I have added two small floating up and down arrows which you will now see in the bottom right hand corner of this page. Just click or tap the 'up' arrow/chevron to go to the top of the page. Whilst the intention is to aid navigation, it's possible some users may find it obstructs their view of content. The only way is to try it and find out!

So please let us know if you like (or hate) this small up and down arrow, and we'll remove it if it causes problems. The main intent was to aid the growing army of mobile phone users who don't have the keyboard commands (Ctlr-Home and Ctrl-End) to quickly move between page bottom and page top, but instead have to swipe endlessly to reach where they want to go! Comment here, or at the original proposal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nick Moyes (talk • contribs) 17:43, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Please remember to sign your posts. It does hover over content. Is there a preference to disable it? RudolfRed (talk) 17:52, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, RudolfRed, that was extremely remiss of me to forget to sign my own post! Can I ask what browser you're using, as in Chrome and Windows the floating icons goes behind the Table of Contents (TOC), and in Safari on an iPhone they go behind the TOC and also disappear completely whenever the screen is moved up very slightly. To be functional the navigation icons do have to float over a small amount of general page content, but I've never found they get in the way when used on a Talk Page in either desktop view on PC, laptop or smartphone. Sounds like that's not happening in the way you're viewing it? I'm not aware of a user preference to disable that form of navigation template, though others more skilled might be. It was simply a case of trialling it for a while and seeking feedback on whether the functionality, visibility and position of this helps or hinders users here. One-nil to 'hindering' from the sound of it so far. Is the amount of content being covered by the navigation icon a serious issue as you're viewing it, a noticeable but insignificant effect, or some point midway? Many thanks for your feedback.  Nick Moyes (talk) 19:50, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: Internet Explorer 11. Yes, the buttons do float behind the TOC, which I don't usually use. The buttons are mildly intrusive in that they cover the right side text of any TH discussion that's near the bottom of the page window. I would vote against this, but it is only mildly annoying to me, so of others find it useful then its not a big deal. RudolfRed (talk) 20:24, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Let's see how it works out for a while then, shall we. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:46, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

I'ts fine helpful for mobile, its quite helpful when in smartphone you move to desktop mode. --Rocky 734 (talk) 02:47, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

I very much dislike those floating thingies, although it wouldn't be too hard to get rid of this annoying cruft with an AdBlock rule. Once you start with it you can't stop, add some helpful floating social media like + share buttons, cover the top of the page with a floating sign-up + login banner, cover the bottom with a floating cookie + privacy info, and then wonder why the audience dropped to zero. –84.46.52.84 (talk) 05:28, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

My comment was written on a laptop and might be completely wrong for mobile. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 07:07, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Adding Page Numbers to a Citation Used more than once

I have a reference that I use several times in an article I'm writing. I want to use the standard <ref name="BookName"> rather than repeat the whole reference multiple times. However, I want to reference different specific pages in the book for some of the references. I.e., the first reference would be for pp. 110-115 and the second reference for pp. 23-30. (Note this is a different problem than my previous question, this is just one book by a single author rather than an edited book with articles by several authors). Is there an easy way to do this? --MadScientistX11 (talk) 22:47, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Hey MadScientistX11. Always good to see you. If you don't want to use parenthetical referencing, or shortened footnotes, then you can use {{rp}}, which was created by another user after I was looking for a solution to just this problem, back in the mists of time here. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:17, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Same here, thanks, that looks great! --MadScientistX11 (talk) 22:41, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

@MadScientistX11: The problem seems replied now, but ...have you seen Help:References and page numbers? --CiaPan (talk) 21:16, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Loop 142 is not exist?

The page about Loop 142 is not existing in this page. Please help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayscott478 (talk • contribs) 17:27, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

@Jayscott478: Draft:Loop 129 is still located where it has been since you made it.

You should really read these instructions on how to write articles that won't be rejected or deleted and try again, though. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:35, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

what is Loop 142?SovietxRefill (talk) 18:13, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

@SovietxRefill: Probably it's one of those listed at List of state highway loops in Texas. --CiaPan (talk) 20:06, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

oh its a highway, thanks SovietxRefill (talk) 20:53, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Loop 142

I have writing about Loop 142 and added infos about it today. Hope you enjoyed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayscott478 (talk • contribs) 18:04, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Loop 142 is a loop in Jacksonville TX and it is a connected route that serves TX110 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayscott478 (talk • contribs) 18:19, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

@Jayscott: - thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. You can discuss the Loop 142 article on the talk page - this is for general article questions. Your comments got mixed up with another issue. Also, please sign your posts with four tildes so your name appears with your posts. ~~~~ TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:24, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

I'll do this then

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state_highway_loops_in_Texas This might help Jayscott478 (talk) 18:12, 2 March 2019 (UTC) Thanks,

Oh, come one, Jayscott478! Don't keep on starting new threads. Please keep everything all together in one place and put your answers where you were asked to supply information; and you might find we are more able or willing to help you. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:00, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Fixed by some semi-WP:BOLD (for IPs) copy + paste: –84.46.53.245 (talk) 11:12, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Picture?

Hi I'm ollliewikistuff and I'm new to Wikipedia how do you add pictures? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ollliewikistuff (talk • contribs) 18:47, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Ollliewikistuff, You can upload images using the Wikipedia:File_Upload_Wizard. Make sure you have permission. WelpThatWorked (talk) 19:33, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

WelpThatWorked, I think it is misleading to talk about "permission". It's not about whether you have permission, Ollliewikistuff, it's about whether the copyright owner has released the picture so that anybody may use it. See Image use policy. --ColinFine (talk) 19:39, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

The permission to upload a picture here is relevant for folks without account or not logging in (example), and IIRC very new accounts also can't upload media. Of course it's as you said once they can upload, the media has to be free enough, e.g., CC-BY-SA or one of the many other "good enough" licenses accepted on commons. On enwiki the additional fair use rules are rather tricky, e.g., if it's a living person you're supposed to take a really free new photo, I learned that by trial + error. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 07:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC) olliewikistuff:thanks guys, big help!

Where do I discuss this important issue with Admins?

Wikipedia is being turned into a mess due to excessive use of Indian media sources, which needs to be tackled as soon as possible. Indian media is ranked 138 on world press freedom index, tops list of countries where fake news is passed off in mainstream and should be partially banned from being used as reliable source on Wiki environment.

Any page where issues like these can be discussed with Wikipedia?- Gracespingmier (talk) 02:40, 2 March 2019 (UTC) -- block evading sock puppet, struck per WP:SOCKSTRIKE --DBigXrayᗙ 05:01, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Gracespingmier. I am an administrator, and am always willing to discuss the reliability of specific sources. I use the word "specific" because we do not accept or reject sources based on the country where they are published. Of course, there are problems with press freedom and fake news in India, but this is true to a greater or lesser extent of every country on Earth. For example, the president of the United States regularly attacks respected news organizations as "fake news" and "the enemy of the people". Please note that Pakistan is 139 on that list. We cannot write decent articles about the India/Pakistan conflict, for example, by banning all sources from those two countries. Instead, the proper approach is to select the best and most reliable sources from both countries, and from other countries, and write articles in accordance with the neutral point of view. The place where we discuss the use of specific sources for specific purposes is the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Read the instructions at the top of that page carefully. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:03, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

References

location infobox

When i tried to add location infobox using source code the infobox doesn’t appear.Why did that happen? Not debil (talk) 07:32, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Not debil. If you're talking about your edits to your sandbox, the infobox wasn't showing up because {{infobox swiss town}} doesn't exist, whereas {{infobox Swiss town}} (note the uppercase ess) does. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 08:29, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

not to sandbox but to article because it doesn’t appear in preview page I just discard it. I want to know why Not debil (talk) 12:30, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

@Not debil: Anything you typed into an edit screen but only previewed and didn't save can never be seen by anyone else but you. Therefore, unless you show us what the edit contained, it is literally impossible for us to know what the problem was.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:37, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Why my edited page is removed

I have edited the page related to Zafar Sareshwala many times, but every time the edited details are being removed by . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zafar_Sareshwala why the deatils are being removed watever i added was all correct information — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venusthelovegoddess (talk • contribs) 11:51, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

@Venusthelovegoddess: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your edits were removed because they were not sourced; all edits must be sourced to independent reliable sources. This is especially true about people who are alive; if content about a living person is not sourced, it cannot be in the article. Please read the Biographies of Living Persons policy. 331dot (talk) 12:04, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Venusthelovegoddess Look at Zafar Sareshwala: Revision history, the editors who reverted you have written WP:EDITSUMMARIES. If you disagree with their reasons, start a discussion with them. What you are doing now is WP:EDITWARRING. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:07, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

@ Gråbergs Gråa Sång thnks for the reply

Could you pleez tell me how to add sources to the edited information — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venusthelovegoddess (talk • contribs) 18:52, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

How to Nominate an article for deletion

Hello, I have found a low importance article that I believe is in such a bad state that it would be eligible for deletion. I am new to the process of article nominations and would like to ask if any of you could lead me to the exact template or a proper guide to deletion of articles. I have tried doing research on the topic with no true progress. BMO4744 (talk) 14:15, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

@BMO4744: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The entire deletion policy and all available processes are described at WP:DELETE. In short, if you believe the deletion will not be controversial, you may use what is called "Proposed Deletion" which you may read about at WP:PROD. There is also a quicker but more limited process called speedy deletion; the article must meet one of the speedy deletion criteria listed at WP:CSD in order to be deleted in that manner. If neither of those processes is appropriate, you may start an Articles for Deletion discussion. You will want to make sure alternatives to deletion are not practical to use. 331dot (talk) 14:19, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

You might find this essay useful as a starting point. Yunshui ^雲_水 14:20, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

PROD can be also used if you only hope that it should be uncontroversial, because folks are in theory free to "dispute" a PROD by simply removing the template (in practice removing a PROD without reason is like asking for an AFD.) PROD must not be used if there was an older PROD or older AFD for the given article (as recorded on its talk page.) Of course abusing any deletion procedure on dozens of pages where that has no snowball's chance in hell to succeed would be considered as disruptive. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 07:51, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

A question

Is there a way to preview an article just by moving your mouse over its wikilink? I mean like to show only the lead paragraph and maybe the photo without having to enter the article--SharabSalam (talk) 14:28, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi SharabSalam. You can try Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:47, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Don't forget about Page Previews :) StaringAtTheStars (talk) 14:52, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you both. That was very helpful--SharabSalam (talk) 19:14, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Mars Argo's Birthday

I want to add Mars Argo's date of birth to her page. Is this a reliable enough source? They are from her confirmed Tumblr page.

http://marsargo.tumblr.com/post/92755456051/when-is-your-birthday

http://marsargo.tumblr.com/post/123126061226/what-day-is-your-birthday

Thanks! El zafiro solitario (talk) 14:40, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi El zafiro solitario. You can probably find more information about this in WP:BLPPRIVACY and WP:BLPSELFPUB. Argo's Tumblr page will be seen as a primary source which means it possibly can be used, but which also means that it needs to be used carefully. Even if she says her date of birth is such and such, it wouldn't be the first time that a public person purposely gave out a false date of birth to keep their real age, etc. secret. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:53, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

If it's some kind of "celebrity" they can certainly try to keep it secret, but they can't insist on it "only here" if some date found in relevant+reliable+independent sources exists. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 08:07, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

List of Afghans

Hello, I would like to edit the intro for this page as well make some inputs for notable people under the topic. Is it okay if i publish/edit them with resources/references and then you guys can mention if they are okay to stay on the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salmankhan6 (talk • contribs) 14:47, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

@Salmankhan6: You've already asked about this above at #Editing "List of Afghans", right? You've received some replies there; so, if there's something that you don't understand, please ask about it in that thread. Asking essentially the same question in multiple threads will just fragment the discussion and make it confusing for others. - Marchjuly (talk) 14:59, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Again, names are on this list only if there are existing Wikipedia articles about the people, hence all blue Wikilinks. Adding a name with some references attesting to their potential notability is not an accepted procedure. If there are people you feel strongly belong in this List article, first create articles about them. David notMD (talk) 15:19, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

David notMD, unless I've misunderstood, according to WP:CSC, adding red links accompanied by references to sources demonstrating notability is acceptable, if it is reasonable to expect that an article could be written. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:24, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

In this instance I yield to editors who have a better idea (and references) to indicate a notable person who is not (yet) the subject of an article. The examples I am more familiar with are articles about towns in the US - which often have a list of notable people (blue-Wikilinks) - but often addition of names that likely never achieve an article of one's own. David notMD (talk) 22:30, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

JFTR, some lists are limited to existing articles and intentionally have no references at all. I'm familiar with software lists and comparisons, they attract spam (in the form of red or external links) like a magnet. Always check the talk page for a list, there should be some stated rules what is or isn't "allowed", and expect some serious debate if you try to change those rules unilaterally (=without some kind of rough consensus), e.g., the list of sex symbols requires an existing article plus two clear references (with a verbatim "sex symbol" in the text) per entry. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 10:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

article edit

hey i was reading this article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Edmondson

and i saw it states this girl was "forcibly branded". not that i wanna defend what looks like a really f***ed up cult, but the truth is the truth, and according to her own interview in this CBC podcast, she wasnt forcibly branded. There was definitely peer pressure, but thats not the same as "forceful branding". this is the podcast:

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/uncover/uncover-escaping-nxivm-1.4675949

she mentions the branding thing on episode 1. i have never edited anything on wikipedia and have no idea how to go about changing it. to be honest i'd rather have someone else take this information and change it. but worst case scenario if someone shows me how i could change it myself. im in no way affiliated with this cult and honestly think they're pretty bad people, but even bad people are entitled to be judged by their actual actions, of which there seem to be plenty, and not fabricated ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martin.z111 (talk • contribs) 16:40, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Removed word "forcibly" from article. It's something you could have done. Clicking on "Edit" for any section opens the section to being edited. Clicking on "Edit" at top menu opens entire article to be edited. David notMD (talk) 17:13, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Martin.z111. User:David notMD has beaten me to it, but I spent some time looking through the NYTimes article and video, the former of which says "Edmondson arrived at the house thinking she was getting a tattoo..., but was instead held down on a table and branded with a cauterizing pen.", and a number of other less significant sources refer to the group she belonged to 'forcibly branding' people. However, I think 'forcibly' was too strong a word to use, and I think you were right to question the wording and for David to remove it. (Perhaps 'unwittingly' might have been nearer the mark.) Anyway, why I'm following this up is just to encourage to you make edits here yourself, to thank you for raising your concerns, and also to suggest that sometimes the better place to raise concerns, as you've done here at the Teahouse, is actually to raise them on the associated Talk page itself (look for the Tab next to the article). There there will always be a number of interested editors watching the page, and they will be alerted to the concerns you raise. There might then be a discussion based on different sources offered and a consensus reached as to what the best form of wording might be. This can be done either before or after making such a change. Anyway, you've done the right thing. Best wishes at the start of your editing journey here on Wikipedia. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 17:38, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

assuming this is where im supposed to reply: thanks and sounds good i'll do that next time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martin.z111 (talk • contribs) 23:14, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Why are the links red

Some links about loops are red. How to fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayscott478 (talk • contribs) 16:48, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Jayscott478. Welcome back to the Teahouse. You seem to have asked a number of questions recently on roughly the same topic, without telling us what the page is you're concerned about. A redlink is an internal hyperlink to a page which doesn't yet exist, and on a topic that someone 'thinks' is worthy of having an article. They might be wrong in that assumption, but it's a hint that they think one is needed. See Wikipedia:Red link for more information, and next time please sign your posts with four keyboard tildes (like this: ~~~~) and supply a link to the page you're talking about. The way to fix a red link is to try to create the article, or to leave it for someone else to try. Quite often an experienced editor will remove redlinks where they think there's no likelihood that an article so linked would ever meet our Notability criteria. See this page for help with that. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 17:49, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Biased Page

I was combing through a couple of pages when I oddly encountered a page about a YouTuber. Apparently, the page is misrepresented and does not include a lot of information. It only contains oddly specific information describing such person. I would've edited it but only extended confirmed users are able to access it. Such YouTuber has constantly tried to reason and ask for edits but to no avail. I would like to open this issue up so that the YouTuber could posssibly get a neutral, unbiased and up-to-date page. Thanks! (For clarification, this is not a question, this is just an issue I'm trying to bring up because I can't edit the page)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Dice

--YouGottaChill (talk) 16:53, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Dear @YouGottaChill: Please bring this concern up on the talk page: Talk:Mark Dice. Since the concerns that you have are in regards to the page as a whole, I would advise, as the first step, to raise your concerns on a new post on the talk page and hope that contributors who frequent the article will engage in discussion with you. If that doesn't work, please open up a request for comment to engage outside contributors;the Wikipedia community as a whole. Thanks, Zingarese talk · contribs 17:19, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

I find it dubious at best that this user just happened to stumble across the Mark Dice article, given Mr. Dice's videos encouraging people to come here to pressure us. 331dot (talk) 18:19, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

I've seen Mr. Dice's video personally. Although I don't really share his viewpoint on Wikipedia have massive biases overall, I still think they exist. I just wanted to bring up that the article should be properly reviewed by several editors and have more information regarding Mr. Dice. Wikipedia is based on neutrality after all. YouGottaChill (talk) 18:52, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Not really the place for this, this is more about seeking help. Not that I disagree (I even agreed with Mr Dice on one or two issues he had with the article), but its just not the right venue.Slatersteven (talk) 19:00, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Apologies. I'll try to refrain from bringing up stuff like this here. YouGottaChill (talk) 20:48, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

@YouGottaChill: You can also list a WP:BLP issue on the WP:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. Because I didn't know that wikilink by heart I found it on WP:Noticeboards, and that project page suggests to ask here in its abstract, because it's a completely hopeless case of TL;DR. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 10:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! YouGottaChill (talk) 14:55, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

The Highgate Vampire

Somebody by the name of Steven Slater has been deleting every single revision I have made to this entry on the grounds of "conflict of interest."

What conflict? I am the author of "The Highgate Vampire" and if anyone knows anything about that particular case it is me.

The original writer of the article (Jacqueline Simpson) is a personal friend of David Farrant and harbours enmity toward me. If that is not a conflict of interest, I don't know what is.

Until a few hours ago, her entry had me described as "extremely unhinged." How was that not considered a conflict of my interest? It was indeed libellous and defamatory.

The entry itself is exceptionally biased, misleading and packed with factual inaccuracies. Yet every time I attempt to correct some of the error it is instantly deleted.

I have now received a warning from Steven Slater that I could be banned. What on earth is going on? This is undemocratic and surely violates my right to not be misrepresented and abused.

The Wikipedia entry for the Highgate Vampire, therefore, is worthless; save for use as ammunition by those in the business of trolling and waging vendettas against me.

It really ought to be taken down in view of it being nothing more than a platform from which to attack me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bishop Seán Manchester (talk • contribs) 17:44, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Actually not every single revision, I let at least one stand. Ohh and it was me who removed "extremely unhinged.", so lets not portray this as if I am protecting Ms Simpsons version of the page (or having some vendetta against you). The issue was a series of edits that violated COI, as well as being OR and unsourced. You continued this after being told you had a COI (and being asked to "take it to the talk page" and being pointed to wp:COI) hence my warning. If you continue down this road (and with this attitude) you are also going to fall foul of wp:nothere and wp:rightgreatwrongs. Please listen, this is not some gatepost to get at you. I was brought there by a post ant the Fringe noticeboard, trust me if you fall foul of some them you will look at how I have treated you as a model of fairness.Slatersteven (talk) 18:18, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Nemenhah page appears to be mostly PR

So this page here seems very off to me. Seems like a few users are trying very hard to keep certain newsworthy facts out of the public eye while disparaging attempts to fix the page as "bias." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doopwii123 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

@Doopwii123: You can discuss it on the talk page, and if that ends up as "two editors disagree very widely" you can ask for a WP:3O third opinion: Minimal rough consensus is 2:1. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 00:01, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Time Frame

Hello. I re-submitted an article - "Trevor Clark (writer)" - in January that I believe meets Wikipedia's standards after initially being rejected for improper citations, and was just wondering what the normal waiting period for a final review might be?

Thanks - Whitefinch — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitefinch (talk • contribs) 23:48, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

@Whitefinch: The Draft:Trevor_Clark_(writer) is not currently in the review queue. If you think it is ready for another review, then click the "resubmit" button at the top of the draft. RudolfRed (talk) 23:52, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism

There is currently vandalism under the ‘Personal life’ section of Linda Henry, related to her age. I saw it via Twitter and went to remove it but the page is protected. can someone help out — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.82.88 (talk) 23:54, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

You can submit an edit request via the talk page of the article and request your changes. If you would like to edit semi-protected pages, create an account. Mstrojny (talk) 00:12, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Awkward Space

This is kind of driving me crazy: Why is there an awkward space at the top of this article: "Zero Point (photometry)" [[1]]? I can't seem to delete it. Could someone show me how? Thanks!

Sam-2727 (talk) 00:05, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Sam-2727:, I removed the br, is that better? Schazjmd (talk) 00:09, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Schazjmd:. Yes! Thank you!

Sam-2727 (talk) 00:11, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Where should I report an editor

I am having issues with an editor that is insulting other editors and is not here to contribute. The matter is not urgent but does need to be addressed relatively quickly. My post was removed from AIV and I was told that that was not the right spot for it. However, it is not severe enough for long-term abuse. Where should I go with it? Almy (talk) 01:49, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Almy. It appears to me that this editor has confined their activity to their sandbox recently. Earlier, they were posting bizarre accusations against other editors. My suggestion is to do nothing unless and until disruption resumes. If that happens, file a report at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:51, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Our contribution about the "Moon" Information was removed by "Zefr" - editor / admin

Hi , I recently made contribution to the "moon" information, X found on the moon . The real evidence is submitted with photos. The people who captured the images includes my son, myself and Yvonne from Malaysia. Whereas the information was undone by an admin or editor saying they are not constructive. I would like Wikipedia to have common sense. While they are building Nuclear powers in space potentially bringing harm to mankind , I believe the real space and moon activity should be revealed to the public. These are constructive evidence coming to light little by little.

I Would like Zefr to undo the removal (of my contribution) . The moon contribution made by myself was accurate with photographic evidence. Its time people know about the facts on the moon and its surfaces. Zefr has not made any research on the topic nor viewed the moon in detail as what we have done. Its wrong for Zefr to remove facts out of mere self opinion.

Annamalai1973 (talk) 02:03, 3 March 2019 (UTC)Annamalai1973

Wikipedia does not accept original research. That includes photos you and associates have taken. Any changes to articles, ESPECIALLY Featured Articles (the star on top bar, right) require references to sources of good reputation. Extraordinary claims for evidence of non-human engineering on the Moon will require extraordinary references. YouTube and an obscure book are not appropriate. Your mention of consideration of nuclear weapons in space has nothing to do with the Moon article. David notMD (talk) 02:58, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

References

X on the moon contribution removed by Zefr (editor)

Our recent contribution was something like this :

Recent unresolved issues on the moon are the X structures found on the moon. A young hopeful astronomer and Photographer took detail pictures of the moon with his 8 inch Reflector telescope and discovered that the X markings (X structures on the photo frame to frame appears to be moving when seen in sequence ).

The X markings looks and sounds eerily similar to the book "somebody else is on the moon" written by Scientist George H. Leonard in 1976 <Copyright violation removed> . (page 60 states " for a case in point, look at the foot of the ridge in plate 12. There is a large X-drone there, one of the largest I have seen on the Moon. It measures at least a mile and a half and probably more from tip to tip. It looks like this : Please go to page 60 :

In this video footage about the moon , a similar cross or X can be seen at minute 12:09 , According to the Video footage these are NASA photo's

I believe wikipedia is part of a cover up to hide Nuclear activity on the moon and outer space , which is why the editors are removing our contribution by saying "have been undone because they did not appear constructive"

I strongly believe the space activity and Nuclearization should be exposed , it is a concerted effort by editors to hide Nuclearization which is greatly connected to the moon but yet editors says it is nothing to do with the moon :

Quote : 28. Some delegations expressed the view that the Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space was a competent organ to consider all issues affecting the peaceful uses of outer space, including any militariza- tion of outer space, which was contrary to international law, such as the Charter of the United Nations and the Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies (the “Outer Space Treaty”, General Assembly resolution 2222 (XXI), annex) of 1967. Those delegations expressed the view that consideration of prevention of an arms race in outer space by the First Committee of the General Assembly and the Conference on Disarmament should not prevent the Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space from also considering related issues.

Annamalai1973 (talk) 03:25, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

No it's not. It's credulous conspiracy theory bullshit and original research. Do not waste your time; it will not be allowed anywhere on Wikipedia.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:42, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

References

More politely, you have twice posted here at Teahouse a protest that your edits to the Moon article were unfairly removed. Both times, the response was that your 'evidence' does not meet Wikipedia standards. You can believe all you wish, but Wikipedia is not part of any cover-up. A more appropriate place to try to make your argument would be the Talk page of the Moon article, but the end result would be the same. David notMD (talk) 13:07, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Request for a second opinion (after article rejection)

Hello My article was declined with the comment: Wikipedia is not for publishing research papers or abstracts. Is it possible to request the opinion of an additional editor before making changes to the original draft? If so, how do I do this? Thank you, Nili — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nili Dahan (talk • contribs) 08:19, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Nili Dahan: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I would concur with the person who declined your draft. No amount of editing will make original research acceptable for Wikipedia. Wikipedia is only for summarizing what other, independent reliable sources have written about a subject. I might suggest that you use the new user tutorial which will help you understand what is being looked for and how to do it. Reading Your First Article may help as well. 331dot (talk) 08:29, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

I also agree that the draft is closer to being an essay and original research than it is an encyclopedic article. In addition, articles on medicine/health topics are restricted to referencing meta-analyses, systematic reviews, reviews, NGO guidelines, etc. (see WP:MEDRS). This means no citing in vitro or animal research, which so much of your draft rests on. David notMD (talk) 13:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

How many planets were discovered beyond our Milky Way? Are there any yet?

I wonder. (talk)}} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bewwy3 (talk • contribs) 11:15, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Bewwy3: The Teahouse is about asking questions about editing and using Wikipedia. Consider taking this question to the reference desk instead. Mstrojny (talk) 11:52, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Bewwy3: You could easily have Googled this yourself, but see: Exoplanet. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:26, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Bewwy3: Also Extragalactic planet. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.1.40 (talk) 15:13, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, guys. (talk)}}

Article on Abhinandan Varthaman

Article on Indian wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman claims in the opening paragraph that he shot down a Pakistani F-16 jet, there is no proof to this whatsoever. Please ask editor of this article to change or remove this claim and report the facts only. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.64.234 (talk) 12:41, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. Please discuss content-related concerns at the article's talkpage Talk:Abhinandan Varthaman, and provide some independent reliable sources for discussion (the Teahouse is mainly focussing on editing-related help for new editors). I noticed that another IP editor already started a discussion there - you are welcome to add your viewpoint and additional sources to this thread at the article's talkpage. GermanJoe (talk) 13:22, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

HELP! I am so frustrated I'm pulling my hair out

I am trying to have our university upload a new photograph of a professor of ours to Wikimedia commons. I made the mistake the first time by claiming to own the copyright because my office took the photo, but it belongs to NYU. The photo was flagged by a moderator, so I went to my universities main communications office to have them upload the photo stating correctly that my university owns the copyright. But someone flagged that photo, saying that I own the copyright, apparently. here's the message I got: Oppose User:Kgberg also claims to own the copyright. Please ask the correct copyright owner to verify the license through Commons:OTRS. Fine. But can someone please, in common English, explain to me how to do this? I don't have the time to pick this apart. Anyone? Again, the university I work for, not I, owns the copyright. Kgberg (talk) 13:28, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

You asked the question at commons:Commons:Help desk#Adding a photo to Wikimedia commons and received a reply there, including a link to commons:Commons:OTRS. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:46, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Repeated Vandalism

Hi I've recently started looking for and reverting vandalism on Wikipedia and have encountered a problem with two IPs 2602:30a:2cbb:a3b0:ec69:fdd9:2351:950 and 162.203.186.59 on Alien vs. Predator (film) who repeatedly edit the year of the film's release to 2014 rather than 2004. I'm not whether (or how) to report this or take some other action. Thanks in advance. The Skeptical Ham (talk) 14:01, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

The place to find advice on how to deal with vandalism is at WP:Vandalism. Before you think of reporting anybody, you need to warn them on their user talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:09, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Best way to start new article?

Hello. I joined so that I can write a new article. Is it better to just start the article with one sentence, and keep adding to it, or should I write the whole article in Word or something and then publish it when I feel it's done? thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SteamboatPhilly (talk • contribs) 15:04, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

You'll find advice at WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:18, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SteamboatPhilly (talk • contribs) 03:33, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

One article for two sisters

Hi there Before I submit an article I just wanted to check if there's any guidance on doing a single article on more than one person. In this case, it's about two elderly sisters who were involved in the suffragette movement in Scotland - Elizabeth and Agnes Thomson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gillaween/sandbox

They appear to have done everything together, including getting arrested for the cause, so two separate articles would be almost identical. Is it ok to do this? Many thanks for feedback Gillaween (talk) 15:27, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Gillaween, if they genuinely did everything together to the extent that there's no point having separate articles on each of them as the text would be duplicated, that's fine; see Category:Sibling duos and Category:Married couples for lots of similar articles. Bonnie and Clyde and The Wachowskis are a couple of high-profile examples. ‑ Iridescent 15:44, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Iridescent, I couldn't think of an appropriate search term for 'sibling duos'! Gillaween (talk) 15:48, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Changing page title to correctly reflect legal name

I am not sure how you go about this or if it is even possible, but I created the HJ Martin and Son page as a favor to a friend and periodically update it. When I originally created the page, I left out the periods after the initials and apparently the company's legal name is H.J. Martin (as opposed to HJ Martin). I can edit the content, but I don't know how to edit the title. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CdbgLaurie (talk • contribs) 16:40, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

What you need is moving a page. See WP:MOVE for guidelines. --CiaPan (talk)
@CdbgLaurie: --CiaPan (talk) 18:11, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Regarding WP:COI and WP:PAID, see also this recent posting on my userpage. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:43, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Date of death not known

Hello again Thanks for all the help I've had in response to my queries already. Thanks to fellow editors, I have now published 4 articles \0/ One of the problems I've had with the suffragettes is that it's relatively easy to find their birth dates (I subscribe to Find My Past for access to census records and their age and address as often in their arrest records so I can cross-check for accuracy). However, unless they stay at that address or there is a death notice which notes their involvement in the suffragette movement, I can't be sure I have the right date of death (if any). In these cases I have put eg (born 1872) after their name but one of the pages has been categorised as a living person. She'd be 147 now! I want to avoid any confusion though so I'm wondering if anyone knows the convention where date of death is not known. Many thanks Gillaween (talk) 18:01, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Gillaween. Category:Living people has guidance. You can add Category:Year of death missing for births before 1904. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:08, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you - that is so helpful PrimeHunter Gillaween (talk) 18:15, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

\0/ indeed! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:27, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Beauty pagents

Hello i would like to ask a question based in beauty pagents,like been a editor there,how do you edit the things about beauty pagents,do u have to basically know all about pagentry,before you start editing and how can you be a best editor,when you edit about beauty pagent related topics — Preceding unsigned comment added by Letmore (talk • contribs) 18:40, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Letmore, and welcome to the Teahouse. The answer to your question is the same as for any other topic: find reliable published sources on the subject (such as major newspapers, and books from reputable publishers), and summarise what they say, in your own words. If you are knowledgeable on the subject, that may help you find the sources, and make sense of what they say; but it is perfectly possible to edit an article that you don't know much about, if you follow the soures.

Wikipedia is basically not interested in what you know (or what I know!): it is only interested in what the published sources say. That means, unfortunately, that if you know something, but can't find a reliable source for it, then you can't put it in the article. A "best editor" is somebody who improves articles - on any subject - by making them clear and accurate with respect to the sources, and following Wikipedia's guidelines on content, presentation, etc. --ColinFine (talk) 20:36, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Translate

Hello. I would like to write the french page of the Lycée Français de Jérusalem. Should I create a separate page or find the way to connect mines (if I do, how?), like on Wikipedia's pages, where you can select the language with the one you display the page's text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LLGH (talk • contribs) 19:12, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@LLGH: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Someone may know the answer to your question, but you would probably need to ask this question on the French Wikipedia. Each language version of Wikipedia is its own project with its own guidelines. 331dot (talk) 19:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Advice on translation to other languages is at WP:Translate us. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:30, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

How to answer to people

Hi! I am new in contributing to Wikipedia and had a really general doubt. How do you answer to people in the Talk page? Do you just edit and write something underneath the comment you want to answer to? Thank you in advance! Lucia.notifications5 (talk) 19:50, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello Lucia.notifications5. Pretty much yes, WP:INDENT may be helpful. More at WP:TALKPAGE. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:59, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Lucia.notifications5: And if you want to start a new conversation with another editor, you click the 'Add topic' button. This ensures your post is added to the bottom of the other editor's talk page. That's the right place - not the top - which for some might seem a little counter-intuitive. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:27, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

need help about mentioning other pages

how to link with other Wikipedia pages while editing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by হানিয়াম মারিয়া (talk • contribs) 20:38, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Do you mean a Wikilink? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 20:42, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, হানিয়াম মারিয়া. Please read Help:Link. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:44, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Greetings

Dear Sir/Ma'am,

My name is Shubhashish Chandra Bodhopadhya and I live in Chennai, India. I am chartered accountant with five kids, two boys(Gujrath Bodhopadhya and Mohan Bodhopadhya) and and three girls (Aisha, Nadia and Ulrika). My wife, Sneha works in the government police department. My question to you is how is Wikipedia planning to expand Indian-related articles in English version? I want to cover up the numerous sexual violence and assaults present in this country. I am looking forward to work as journalist in NDTV.

Please reply on my talk page,

Thanks in advance,

S.C.B — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.244.17.51 (talk) 21:36, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. Welcome to the Teahouse, but your post makes little sense to me, and it is never advisable to reveal personal details of family, employers and motives. Do you know the meaning of the word 'oxymoron'? Your comment that you want to '"cover up" (i.e. hide) stories of assault and violence seems at odds (i.e. in opposition) with your aim to be a journalist. This I find oxymoronic. To answer your actual question, I see enough new pages here to believe that Indian editors are doing just fine in expanding Indian-related articles. (See Special:NewPagesFeed) Do you think I am wrong in forming this conclusion? Beyond that, the Teahouse is a place to answer questions about editing Wikipedia, and I don't see any question from you that we can actually answer. I will copy this to the Talk page of the IP address you are using. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:55, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Shubhashish. I am guessing that you meant "cover" rather than "cover up". If you mean that you wish to do some investigation and write journalistic articles about those issues, I'm afraid Wikipedia is completely the wrong venue for that. If the issues have already been discussed in reliable published sources (such as major newspapers, or books from reputable publishers) then we can have articles which summarise what those published sources say; but investigative journalism would count as original research, which is not permitted in Wikipedia. I also get the sense that you might be trying to tell the world about these problems: a laudable aim, but again, not permitted in Wikipedia (see WP:NOT#Righting great wrongs).

Finally, your question of "how is Wikipedia planning to expand ... " indicates that you have a misunderstanding of how Wikipedia works. Wikipedia content is created entirely by volunteer editors, who decide what they want to work on: there is no editorial board planning what we should concentrate on. You are welcome to join us and add more material that you think would be valuable; but, again, be aware that writing for Wikipedia is very different from journalism. --ColinFine (talk) 23:32, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

The "up" may have been unintentional. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 23:24, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Hé

[ ]— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bousslham (talk • contribs)

Hello, Bousslham. Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia that you need answering? Nick Moyes (talk) 22:29, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

CLARIFICATION

Hello, I am requesting for someone to clarify between citing and linking, please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pktrisha (talk • contribs) 22:03, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Pktrish, welcome to the Teahouse. 'Citing' is an American term for 'adding a reference' to an external reliable source, such as a book, newspaper, journal or reliable website. This is an absolute requirement when you add a new 'fact' to an article here. If you add a fact without supporting it with a 'citation' it's quite likely that your edit will be reverted (removed). Put simply, we don't allow personal opinions here, so citing reliable published sources is absolutely essential. When you are editing an article or a sandbox page, your editing tool has a button called 'Cite' which allows you to add details of these external sources (see Help:Referencing for beginners).

By 'Link' I think you probably mean an internal connection (called a 'wikilink') from one Wikipedia page to another. So when I mention Delhi, I could link to Delhi to help users find out more information the city (see WP:MOSLINK for full details). Please let us know if this hasn't answered your question, and we'll try again for you. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk)

LLGH (talk) 20:16, 5 March 2019 (UTC) Hi Pktrisha. By using linking or citing, you'll see that a link is when you clic on a word (usualy in blue) to access to another internet page ; but when you cite, you are giving a reference, more information : in Wikipedia pages, you'll see numbers that are explained at the end of the page. In brief : linking = word-link ; citing = giving external additional information.

Snippet view of a source

Is there anyone who can tell me what "denver+d.+ferguson"+chicago&dq="denver+d.+ferguson"+chicago&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwip47GbpOfgAhVjnuAKHW8UBAoQ6AEISzAI this book source says on page 29? I'm working on Draft:Denver Ferguson, and additional info and sourcing eould be very useful. Thanks. Looks like a death notice from snippet view.. FloridaArmy (talk) 01:02, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi, FloridaArmy. The maximum I've been able to extract is part of a weekly news item stating that Denver D. Ferguson, aged 62, had died that week. (no date given). It says he was formerly a night club impresario in Indianapolis and was also the owner and publisher of the first weekly newspaper in Edmundson County, Ky. Apparently he died in his own home in Indianapolis after being ill for some time. There was more, but even via a proxy server I couldn't see more than a snippet either. However, you do appear to have missed this incredibly detailed obituary (which continues on page 7 of the Indianapolis Recorder, for 18 May 1957), which should give you much of what you need to complete your draft! And if you're still stuck, there's 158 pages of entries for Denver Ferguson in that newspaper's online archive search tool. (see here) Nick Moyes (talk) 11:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• For the record, when you need access to more-or-less esoteric sources, the go-to place is WP:RX. The kind folks there have access to many newspapers archives, scientific journals, libraries etc. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 16:36, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Election maps

Nigeria presidential election 2015 - blue and green

Hello, I was intrested in formating File:Nigeria location map.svg for the article 2019 Nigerian general election, as was done for the previous election in the country (see here) which has its own map (see here). Any idea how to do this if it is possible? Thank you Inter&anthro (talk) 01:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Inter&anthro. Welcome to the Teahouse. Whilst there might be a better way, my approach would be to download the highest resolution version of the 2015 election map (shown), not File:Nigeria location map.svg. The latter contains too much spurious detail you would need to edit out. I would open the image in simple graphics-editing software capable of 'flooding' one selected area of colour and changing it to another. That seems likely to work OK as every blue and green area is surrounded by a white border which means you can flood each area one at a time. I would convert, say, all the green areas back to the same shade of blue (or whatever political colour is most dominant in 2019) and then, based upon a published list of election results, I would re-flood the relevant areas with a different colour to reflect the results of the minority party(s).

I would then reupload the image to Wiki Commons as my own work, but making it clear it is a 'derivative work' based upon the other image. Thus, the history of changes can be traced back. In addition (and because this is a personal gripe of mine) I would include in the image description a hyperlink or reference to the published election results. I personally don't feel that anywhere near enough effort is expended at Commons to ensure the accuracy of image content, or allow others to challenge it. We rightly fuss about the words and references we use on Wikipedia, but we let anyone create and upload almost any image containing data or named content without requiring it to be sourced or challenged for accuracy of content. This is a really serious weakness in my view. Anyway, I hope this suggestion helps. Let me know if you find a better way, although you could always seek assistance from the experts over at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Update: Yep - I've just tested this method for you using the 'flood' tool in MS Paint - the free graphics editor that comes with Microsoft Windows. It works perfectly, and is so quick to do. The only issue I foresee is if the election regions areas have altered since the earlier map was created. You'll have to check that for yourself, I'm afraid. Nick Moyes (talk) 10:38, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Minor objection, in theory "we" prefer SVG for cases like this. I looked at the source (ctrl-U in most browsers), there are various fill=none (irrelevant), some fill=#87beeb (blue?), and some fill=#00aa00 (greenish): Fixing that for a new SVG map in a text editor should be simple enough, toggle one fill color to, say, red, to figure out which provice it is. Then toggle it to, say, black or silver to tag it as done, and finally toggle all black to #00aa00 and all silver to #87beeb as it was on the old map, even notepad should be good enough for this exercise. Nothing against mspaint.exe and bitmaps, but SVGs have various advantages. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 12:22, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank for that steer, 84.46.53.245. I'd not seen that my 'svg' file had been saved as 'svg.png'. I suspect it might be hard to work through and change the correct units in svg format in a browser. (Though I could probably do it in MapInfo) I can find the hex colours in Chrome and IE, but can't see how to edit, toggle and then save them. Can you advise so that the OP can then try? Thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so mcuh @Nick Moyes: for your advice, I've tried uploading it at File:Nigeria presidential election 2019 - blue and green.jpg. Inter&anthro (talk) 20:18, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome, Inter&anthro. It obviously doesn't have the quality of the original .svg file, but it should work OK. I think I would have been unable to retain it in the original format, too, as it seemed extremely complex to find and change the relevant elements without having the specialised software. The one thing I would ask is that you add the source of your information to the wikimedia file - I think that sets a good example for others to follow. Best wishes, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

I added the source of the original file in the description, is it not showing up? Inter&anthro (talk) 20:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Works for me, but you can't have two mutually exclusive licenses on this file (public domain vs. CC-BY-SA.) Based on the source sticking to CC-BY-SA should be okay. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 00:13, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Armed with Chrome as browser, but it would be the same procedure with IE11 or Firefox: On c:File:Nigeria presidential election 2015 - blue and green.svg I clicked on the Original file link, if you don't see it disable the media viewer and reload the SVG. Your browser then displays this SVG as image. On the tab with the displayed SVG press [Ctrl]+[U] (mnemonic for Un-decode) to see the source (SVG is in essence plain text), or right click and pick "save as" (= download to a local file on your box with file extension SVG.) If your text editor refuses to open the SVG rename it to map.TXT, edit it, rename it back to map.SVG, etc. (your browser won't display map.TXT, but can handle map.SVG, unless it's syntactically broken.) CAVEAT: If your text editor splits extremely long lines you need a better text editor or an idea where inserted line breaks won't cause havoc for the SVG syntax. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 00:29, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Template Help

Hello! I am trying to use a template and it is not working. I tried using it on a sandbox page and seeing the page on templates to see if I was improperly using it and it has not worked. Maybe it is because the template is under a deletion notice? if anyone can help please do. Thanks. BMO4744 (talk) 02:50, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@BMO4744: It is the nowiki tags, and the template itself isn't under a deletion notice, it is a deletion notice. Although I don't recommend doing it- it will be contested- use the source editor to view my edit here, and copy and paste this: {{subst:proposed deletion|concern=With a new controversy arising about child pornography on the internet and the increased action now being taken by companies, governments, and ISPs. This article could soon become a new source of controversy on the issue. Despite [[WP:Censorship]] stating that "graphic imagery should not be censored on Wikipedia..." This article could be a huge target on Wikipedia and the Wikimedia foundation arising from the new controversy on graphic child imagery. I know that to all the editors on Wikipedia that are fans of the Scorpions would hate to hear this, but this article is not notable enough to the point where it should be contested for a possible black listing of the page like [[Virgin Killer Controversy|what happened back in 2008]]. [[User:BMO4744|BMO4744]] ([[User talk:BMO4744|talk]]) 01:22, 4 March 2019 (UTC)]]}} MINUS THE NOWIKI TAGS. I warn you again, though, that if you go through with the PROD (proposed deletion) it will not be successful. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 04:18, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

That section is about File:Virgin Killer.jpg, and a FFD (File For Discussion/Deletion) was closed as speedy keep by Primefac. PROD can't be used after an ordinary deletion procedure, and without checking it, I think that WP:PROD is anyway only for articles, not for images, user pages, talk pages, etc. In theory everybody can contact WMF legal  if they think that something violates the ToU, but in practice the Virgin Killers#Wikipedia controversy section documents that this already happened in 2008. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 12:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Biography

I am editing a biography for a prominent person who recently died. I believe need to change the template from Biography of a Living Person to Biography of a Dead Person. Could you explain how to do this. Leland2018 (talk) 03:06, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Leland2018: You may not need to- BLP (biography of a living person) doesn't immediately terminate when they kick the bucket, it continues on for a while (partly to avoid a flood of BLPvio edits while they are in the news). If you do have to change it, though, as I don't know which article you are talking about, either delete "of a living person" or simply remove the whole thing. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 04:10, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Kargil War - WikiPage

Hi there, To start with i am not sure which Wiki community can help address this query. I was recently was going through the Kargil War Wikipedia page and i notice a particular name missing in the list of Gallantry awards. I would want to bring to your notice that - Shri Digendra Kumar who is a former member of the 2nd battalion of the Rajputana Rifles regiment and was awarded the Mahavir Chakra on 15 August 1999, for his acts of bravery in the Kargil War.

In the light of this, i am also including the Wikipage dedicated to the braveheart Digendra Kumar Based on the above, could you please add the name to the list of awardees please?

Regards, Pavan Sharma — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.227.97.76 (talk) 04:36, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

 Done Rojomoke (talk) 07:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Tone

How do I indicate an article’s tone feels biased? I was looking at Kelly Hoppen and the article contained spurious details - eg her holiday arrangements. I took out some but hesitated making bigger changes. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cclogs (talk • contribs) 07:39, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Try using Template:Unbalanced. See Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup for details. Eman235/talk 08:16, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Cclogs: You may also start a relevant discussion at the article's talk page: Talk:Kelly Hoppen. --CiaPan (talk) 08:36, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Cclogs: Not to mention the template {{tone}} which might be more appropriate to your question, and can be easily added manually, or via Twinkle if you've chosen to have that tool enabled. At a quick skim through I don't think you need to add any templates to the article after your recent cleanup edits. It seems OK now. Nick Moyes (talk) 09:18, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Learning

When my page goes online? How do I make my red link turn into blue link? And when I press on it,must go to that article? How do I do that?RapMon27 (talk) 09:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@RapMon27: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I am not entirely clear on which page you are referring to; please link to it so we can help you. 331dot (talk) 09:22, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, RapMon27. I fear that you have done what many new editors do, and plunged straight into the difficult task of creating a new article, without learning what that task involves. Assuming you are talking about Draft:Shuhua, it is visible for all the world to see as a Draft, but will not be added to the main article space, or indexed by search enginges, until it has been accepted in review. You can submit it for review by pasting {{subst:submit}} at the top; but that would be a waste of time at present, because it will not be accetped until you add several citations to independent reliable published sources. Please see WP:Your first article.

I'm not sure what you mean about making a red link turn to blue, but I'm guessing that it is the link to "Rising Legends CUBE x SOOMPI Promotional Video" You have put that in as a Wikilink, i.e. to another Wikipedia article; but there is no such Wikipedia article, and there will not be until somebody creates it (assuming the subject is notable, which I doubt). If you intended to create a link to the video itself, external links use only a single pair of square brackets, with the URL between - but there are tight restrictions on external links in articles, and that is probably not appropriate.

Wikipedia articles should be entirely based on reliably published information, and be written neutrally. No article should say what a person is best known for unless there is a reliably published source, independent of the person, that makes that statement. --ColinFine (talk) 09:49, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Guru Rohit Mattewara

Guru Rohit From Mattewara 141007 punja,rohan ,road, Ludhiana guru Rohit tik Tok Star from mattewara — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guru Rohit Mattewara (talk • contribs) 09:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello Guru Rohit Mattewara welcome to Wikipedia's Teahouse. We are here to help answer editor's questions about building this encyclopaedia. Is there something you need help with? I should just tell you that we're not here to help people promote themselves or their social media presence. Oh, and we also advise against posting addresses, dates of birth or contact details. If you need any help with editing, do come back and ask. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:04, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Watford FC

Hi

The Watford FC page is missing Juan Camilo Hernandez (Cucho Hernandez) as a player out on loan. His own page is correct and states that he is indeed owned by Watford and out on loan at Huesca — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davey79c (talk • contribs) 10:59, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Make your request on the talk page of the article and it will be considered. A reliable source would help. Britmax (talk) 11:03, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Organization trying to make money out of Wikipedia

Dear Wikipedia,

For the third time in about a year, I have been solicited by a service who offers to create a Wikipedia page about myself against financial retribution. Are you aware that such predatory organizations are trying to make moneu on your back?

Here come the contact and message I received:

spam mail text

From: <redacted by User:RhinosF1> "Dear Dr.Sacha Escamez, Have you ever wondered of having a Wikipedia page for yourself or your company? We can help you get a Wikipedia page for yourself or your brand. Usually Wikipedia only accepts pages on celebrities and famous companies, if you are looking to get one for your self, we can help you with that. Having a page for yourself in Wikipedia, brings you more credibility and makes you more famous. We have been editing on Wikipedia for 7+ years and We've created tons of pages for companies, people, brands, products, and of course for academic purposes as well. We own multiple accounts on Wikipedia with page curation and new page reviewer rights, so i can create and moderate pages with almost zero risk of another mod taking it down. There are few wikipedia editors who are willing to create a page for money, and most of them are scared to offer this service directly, so they do it through their trusted sellers who markup the price to $1500 - $2500 per page. Because you're buying directly from an experienced wikipedia editor and mod, you'll get your page a lot cheaper, faster and with more reliability. Let me know if you are interested Regards Patricia M. Carnes "

Sincerely

Sacha Escamez — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.239.72.182 (talk) 13:43, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Sadly, yes, such "services" are known to exist, considering how prestigious Wikipedia entrees are these days. Of course, most of it is nonsense, any page curator / reviewer creating such pages will likely be spotted before long and have their rights revoked and probably be blocked but unfortunately, there is scant we can do against such spam mails. Regards SoWhy 14:24, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

I'm going to notify paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org of this as it might be within their jurisdiction. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 16:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Adding Texts of Famous Poem/Speeches

I was curious why pages regarding poems in the public domain or famous speeches cannot have the text of said poems or speeches. I added a few at one point, but they were all removed, and it seems strange for a Wikipedia page about a short famous work that's in the public domain to not appear in the page itself, especially with how often these pages come up in search results of people looking for the text. Or maybe there is some way to do this correctly so the text isn't removed? Thank you Zammitj1 (talk) 16:23, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Zammitj1:

Welcome to the Teahouse

It's great to read your post

I thought I'd try to answer it

as I'm a Teahouse host.

The problem is an article

on a poem or a speech

can only talk about it

- The text stays out of reach.

- Out of reach to readers

who log on day and night.

They might want to read the wording

but the darned thing's copyright

Even if it's published

and in the public domain

unless it's been properly licenced

there it must remain.

I'm sure they'd love to read it here

at least, that's what methinks

but all that we can offer them

are a few External Links.

Of course, this particular amazing poem has been published under a Creative Commons licence, so you're free to re-publish it wherever you wish! I hope this nevertheless answers your question. Nick Moyes (talk) 17:03, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Bravo from the IPs, I recently tested <poem>...</poem> on a dewiki talk page, it works like <pre>...</pre>. Reverted, the poem was not strictly on topic on this talk page. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 23:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Major kudos for that answer. Zammitj1 (talk) 17:16, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Where poems and songs are in the public domain, Zammitj1, the preferred course is to upload them to Wikisource: they can be Wikilinked from there (or, even better, linked with the {{wikisource}} template). --ColinFine (talk) 17:25, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

What do you think of external links in the body?

Hi all, I read the WP:External links page thoroughly and yet I still cannot form a consensus as to whether or not the external links put in Suncoast Community High School#Academics are appropriate or not. Can somebody give me their opinion? — BladeRikWr 16:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

They should be removed, I see no reason for a "rare exception" to include ELs in the body here. MB 16:43, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for chiming in! I will remove them promptly. — BladeRikWr 16:52, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Company Template

I came a across a wiki page about a company that talks quite a bit about its progress. It's also been labeled as an page that "contains content like an advertisement". I'm not entirely sure how to properly edit the company page so that it doesn't look an advertisement while showing what it contains and what achievements it has made. Is there a template that I can adhere to or a guide (other than WP:PROMOTION)? YouGottaChill (talk) 17:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, YouGottaChill. If a reliable published source completely unconnected with the company has chosen to talk about an "achievement" of the company, then the Wikipedia article can summarise what the unconnected source said about it, preferably citing the source. (And note that anything based on a press release or interview with the company is not "completely unconnected"). If no source unconnected with the company has talked about the "achievement" then no mention of it belongs in the article. Period. Wikipedia is basically not interested in what the company says, or wants to say, about itself, only what independent commentators have said about it. --ColinFine (talk) 17:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

This page might be of some help, especially in the section about structure. Tamanoeconomico (talk) 17:36, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

How to make an edit to Barbra Streisand (semi-protected)

Just wondering what to do about making a constructive edit to one part of the Barbra Streisand entry, which is a semi-protected entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbra_Streisand#Nightclub_shows_and_Broadway_stage

I propose a couple of sentences in the above section (2.2), probably a new third para along the following lines:

In early 1962 she went into the Columbia Records studio for the cast recording of I Can Get it for You Wholesale. Also that spring she participated in a twenty-fifth anniversary studio recording of Pins and Needles, the classic popular front musical originated in 1937 by the International Ladies’ Garment Workers’ Union. Reviews of both albums highlighted Streisand’s perfomances.

The source for this is a standard recent biography: William J. Mann, Hello Gorgeous: Becoming Barbra Streisand (Boston and New York: Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2012), pp. 213-214, 245

Ami du peuple (talk) 17:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• You should make an edit request. ^{[Username Needed]} 17:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Ami du peuple: Are you not autoconfirmed? You should be able to do it yourself. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:39, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Using Photos that are approved by a person but not licensed

Hello, I have very little experience using Wikipedia and I am trying to create a page but I am being denied every step of the way. The references are not good enough but getting them from the persons website is about all I can find. To make it even more difficult many articles that may have information published are in Japanese and I don't read or speak Japanese. I have contacted the person the page features and have been given approval to make the page and post photos that are available on their website or social media accounts. When I try to Upload the photo to wiki commons I get a message saying it must be licensed. I thought getting approval from the owner would be enough. Any help to get my page fixed and acceptable would be very much appreciated. Here is a link to the draft if you need to see what I have done so far. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Keisandeath — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akumu-Metal (talk • contribs) 17:59, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Hey Akumu-Metal. In order to meet Wikipedia's standards for notability and qualify for an article, a subject needs to have sustained in-depth coverage in reliable independent sources, usually things like newspapers magazines and books, and excluding things like social media, official websites, and press releases. If this person has not yet received this type of coverage, and the only source available is their official website, then they do not yet qualify for an article.

As to uploading images on Wikimedia Commons, it is not enough that someone give permission to use the images on Wikipedia. Content on Commons must be released under a free license. If they are not willing to do so, then the content is not appropriate for upload. GMG^talk 18:04, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

In fact, Akumu-Metal, a person who is the subject of a Wikipedia article has almost no role to play in connection with that article. Their permission, or disapproval, is of no relevance. Most materials supplied by them will not be usable unless these are copies of reliably published independent work about them. Pictures they supply will usually not be usable unless the copyright holder (who is usually the photographer rather than the subject) agrees to license the picture freely, as GMG referred to. --ColinFine (talk) 23:31, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

As I mentioned before there are articles that were put into magazines and newspapers about the subject but they are all in Japanese. I have requested that the subject of the Wiki assist me in finding the relevant information and give me the links. My question is< if the articles are in Japanese will they be accepted? If the person who took the photos gives the OK is that good enough? Also the album cover photos are owned by the subject and they said I could use them. Is that acceptable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akumu-Metal (talk • contribs) 02:40, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

What should I do about instances of COI editing that I find?

I found a user (Bostonjfilm) who is editing a page Boston Jewish Film Festival and, based on their username, it seems to be a conflict of interest. They are also adding language which makes the article seem more like an advertisement. What should I do? I already put a {{subst:Uw-coi-username|Article}} on their talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merlin04atschool (talk • contribs)

 Already Reported - Violation of WP:UPOL so in this case WP:UAA is the best venue. If it's not a username policy violation the WP:COI/N would be the correct place in future. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 18:15, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• @Merlin04atschool: The article certainly read like an advertisement. Also, some of the content added by the WP:COI user was a WP:COPYVIO of the organisation's website. I've removed the copyvio text and copy-edited the rest to make it a bit less advertorial, but more work is needed on this aspect. Additionally, the article probably needs renaming because it's more about the festival's organising body than the festival itself. Neiltonks (talk) 13:27, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

help submitting first article

Can someone help me with my first article? tried to follow all the rules and regs and use the correct procedure. Can someone take a look for me?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LandonCharles1 (talk • contribs) 19:06, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Article in question is User:LandonCharles1/sandbox. Also, at end of comments here at Teahouse or Talk pages of articles or editors, sign your User name by typing four of ~. David notMD (talk) 19:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

I've tidied up the section headings, removed bolding of text contrary to MOS:BOLD, & added a Reference section heading with {{reflist}} template. You ought to read WP:REFB, & particularly the part about refs used more than once. Also read WP:REFPUNC. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:36, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@LandonCharles1: Grr! I was just doing exactly the same thing for you as David Biddulph has, but he finished first, and so I've wasted my time! Not to worry. Anyway, I've just added a couple of flags to key sections that would definitely need citations for every personal statement, as they relate to a living person, and we need evidence for things like education, marriage, divorce and so on. If you can't cite it, just leave those bits out until later. Or add them and then remove the "unreferenced section" template I popped in just to flag up the bits to work up further. Apart from the issue of learning how to use one reference multiple times (by means of ref name=Jetset, for example) rather than repeating the citation again and again, I think you've not done at all badly with this. You should be pleased with yourself. I've not looked at 'notability', but suspect she'll meet it OK. There's no WP:COPYVIO although I don't really think you need to quote the aims of the Charity she supports - I think that goess off topic a bit too much. But it's not a big issue; others might disagree with me. When you've got a few more references in place and you're close to finishing it, just let us know and someone here can add a 'Submit' button for you and perhaps move it over into the 'Drafts' section, too. Meanwhile, you're free to work on it in your sandbox for as long as you wish. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:07, 4 March 2019 (UTC) 

Helping out new editors

Lately, I have been reverting vandalism thanks to my trainer Operator873 and helping other editors at the Teahouse. I would like to know other ways I can help out and welcome new editors here on Wikipedia. Mstrojny (talk) 21:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

WP:Help desk or the WP:Village pump might interest you; until you feel confident enough to join WP:AFC. You can also join any WikiProject with a topic interesting you, but make sure that it's no (in essence) dead project, it could be quite overwhelming if you are alone "responsible" (NOT) for thousands of pages allegedly covered by a defunct project. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 23:11, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for answering this question. I would like to use the thanks notification, however, there is no thank button next to your edit to this page. Why is that? Mstrojny (talk) 23:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Mstrojny: We don't have the "thank" option available for people editing as an IP address. I've been frustrated by that several times myself. Schazjmd (talk) 23:36, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

It's also frustrating for IPs, and oddly the one feature I missed most (not counting the unavailable upload feature for IPs, that happened only once in three years.) –84.46.53.245 (talk) 00:51, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

@Mstrojny: You can look at the list of edit requests at CAT:ESP, for semi-protected pages that can't be edited by new editors. RudolfRed (talk) 00:27, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Help With Declined Article Due to Multiple Entires

Hello, I am trying to get an article posted that one of your editors declined due to multiple entires when I submitted it back in December. I have added the code to have my original entry so it would be deleted and I have re-published the page and submitted it for review.

Here is the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Filthy_Apes_and_Lions_(Album) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carly.juneredford (talk • contribs) 22:01, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done @Carly.juneredford: You asked this question just 15 minutes earlier at AFC Helpdesk (see here). It is wasteful of time and resources to expect two different sets of volunteers to answer your same question. Please await an answer there. And please sign all your talk page posts with four tildes in future, (like this: ~~~~). Many thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:10, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Previous attempt a page creation and new creations

HI. I have not been logged in since 2016. I was desperately trying to record a time in history when I created my first page, and expected to go back and edit it, but I was not in a position to and then totally forgot it was done. I would like to discuss the changes that were made and work through what was viewed or referred to as vandalism since the story was true. I also want to create a page about my parents who I've recently discovered are descendants of very significant royalty in history. How to begin this page and create a family history of my parents is my interest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JodiRae63 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@JodiRae63: Unless your parents are notable (See WP:NBIO), then this is not possible. RudolfRed (talk) 22:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

I have discovered my mother is a descendant of multiple kings and queens and has been recognized by citizens in her community and their acknowlegement would influence the House of Windsor. How do I proceed to document this through Wikitree. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JodiRae63 (talk • contribs) 22:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, JodiRae63. Wikitree is nothing whatever to do with Wikipedia. We cannot help you in any way here about doing things in Wikitree. If you are talking about using information from Wikitree in a Wikipedia article, the answer is no: all information in Wikipedia articles must come from reliably published sources, which automatically excludes almost all wikis. --ColinFine (talk) 23:40, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

I wrote that wrong, Wikitree versus Wikipedia. I am familiar with Wikipedia and the difference of it from Wikitree. I was working on a page that I was citing sources and they were Geni sources. Why did you delete my page in Sandbox and accuse me of malicious intent. Or that I was using it for business. This page had nothing to do with a licensed corporation or Limited Liability environment. What on it made you think you could make such a claim as that? I was not solicitating nor was a falsely making claims of who the person is. It is my mother. What is the problem here with me working on a simple Wikipedia page?Jodi Rae (talk) 01:57, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

What does de-redlink mean?

On Wikiproject Iowa de-redlinking is mentioned, but what does de-redlinking mean? Removing the links? Only deleting everything that doesn't have its own article? Creating the articles?Helloimahumanbeing (talk) 22:53, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

I've blanked my attempt because the following answer was far better. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 01:01, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Hello Helloimahumanbeing, welcome to the Teahouse. It could actually mean any of those things - it depends on the context. A quick look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Iowa shows a link on their main page to three List-type pages (such as List of unincorporated communities in Iowa) in which a large number of communities are listed, but where there are, as yet, no articles about them by that name. So the links show up as REDLINKS. So, in this context de-redlinking clearly means encouraging the creation of articles about these ostensibly notable communities so that the entries turn blue and take people to the relevant new page. You wouldn't remove these red links as, being geographical features, they almost certainly would meet our Notability criteria - in this case: Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features), and so they serve as a prompt for editors to get to work! However, had it been a 'list of people from Iowa', we would then probably wish to remove the actual red-linked entries themselves, as we require people named in lists to already have an article about them.

The interpretation of 'de-redlinking' might in other circumstances mean the removal of the coding (double square brackets) around the word or phrase which is creating the unnecessary redlinked hyperlink in articles where it is reasonable to assume that no page on that topic is likely to be created anytime soon, if ever, because it simply is not notable enough. In those circumstances the red links don't act as a prompt to editors to get to work to create pages - they simply interfere with the user's ability to easily read the page without distractions. We leave the content, but remove the internal hyperlink (known as a wikilink). You might like to read this short essay called: Wikipedia:Redlinks within reason, Bluelinks within context So judgement and experience is required on whether to leave it alone, remove a just the red hyperlink, or remove the complete entry. But if you can set to work to create the relevant article - brilliant. If in doubt, leave it to someone else to worry about, or raise your concerns or suggestions for editing on the relevant article's talk page. Does this make sense? Nick Moyes (talk) 23:55, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

adding two former residents of East Harlem who are performers

How do I add tow former residents of East Harlem who are performers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.139.7.10 (talk • contribs)

Hello IP editor, welcome to the Teahouse. It would have helped if you had linked to the Wikipedia pages for the people you want to add as residents to the article on East Harlem. You may only add to the section on 'Notable people' if they already have an article about them here, and supply a citation (reference) if there's nothing in their articles stating they once lived there. The names of people who don't yet have pages should not be added to the article. To learn how to edit Wikipedia pages, may I refer you to the first five, very short sections at the top of the page called Wikipedia:FAQ/Editing? Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

How do you make underlined Text on the editor?

Just how do you do that in the first place I’m not experienced with coding so yeah I’m out of luck can you help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frygarfan (talk • contribs) 23:09, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Frygarfan: Welcome to the Teahouse. Our Visual Editor has a tools menu where you can selected basic formatting - just like in any word procesor. But in source editor you type the letter 'u' between two chevron brackets, add the text to be underlined, then close it with '/u' between two more chevrons. like this: <u>text to be underlined</u>. It renders like this: text to be underlined. See also the page called Help:Cheatsheet for a few other useful tips, like how to sign your talk page posts, which I'd ask you to check out and remember to use in future posts. Do check our The Wikipedia Adventure for our interactive tour of how things work around here. Hope this helps. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:23, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Frygarfan: Underlining should rarely be used in articles. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Text formatting#How not to apply emphasis. If you mean links which become underlined when you hover the mouse over them then it happens automatically when you make a link. See Help:Link. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:26, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Disambiguation

I am beginning to put the information together for a page describing the Mongolian Order of the Polar Star, the main decoration Mongolia offers for foreign citizens (see an article from the Mongolian official news agency https://montsame.mn/en/read/130768 as a suggestion that the Order actually exists). However, there is a page for the Swedish Order of the Polar Star already, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Polar_Star. Once I have the information for the Mongolian order compiled, how do I create a page for the Mongolian order by (more or less) the same name?

I've read the disambiguation instructions and given the relative prominence of the Swedish order and the fact that there is also an Order of the Polar Star (Norway) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Polar_Star_(Norway)) that is noted at the topic of the page about the Swedish order, should I create Order of the Polar Star (Mongolia) and add it to the note at the top of the Sweden and Norway page?

Thank you for suggestions!

Julian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdierkes (talk • contribs) 00:53, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

I'm aware of two possible solutions, (1) a separate disambiguation page "Order of the Polar Star" with links to the Swedish order + Mongolian order + whatever exists for this topic, in that case the Swedish page would have to be renamed first, e.g., "Order of the Polar Bear (Sweden)". Discuss it on the talk page first if you like this.
(2) On the existing page add a DAB note, something in the direction of "This page is about the Swedish order, for the Mongolian order see [[Your page with a different name]]".
There are rules or guidelines how that should be done if both topics are (roughly) equally relevant, and how it should be done otherwise, but I'd try (2) first, it requires less or no discussions, and other folks can "hug it out" if they insist on "equally". –84.46.53.245 (talk) 03:57, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Adding a missing actress to wikipedia

Can you please add Mildred Washington to Wikipedia... She was a early actress.

http://readandwriteromance.blogspot.com/2016/05/mildred-washington-life-cut-short.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2D80:CC06:807D:8488:9F33:8A92:F09 (talk) 01:36, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

I can't find any reliable sources on which to base an article. I'm sorry, the fan-written biography on imdb.com isn't sufficient. If you can find any good sources, let me know on my talk page. Schazjmd (talk) 01:43, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

I agree, Schazjmd. I just did a quick search at Newspapers.com and found little about her. The original poster might want to go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red. That project specializes in trying to add coverage about women (assuming they meet notability standards). Eddie Blick (talk) 03:21, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Hashtag #InvisibleNoMore (on LinkedIn, at least) supported by WikiMedia among others expires in less than three days, now is a brilliant time to tackle this article, if and only if you find good references, or the project linked above has subversive ideas about not so good references sufficient for a stub. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 04:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Game reviews can make flawed cited sources

I will often times look up my favorite video games on Wikipedia and find factual errors that have been cited from video game reviews.

As an example, the article for Turok: Dinosaur Hunter states, "Enemies and boss characters have multiple death animations depending on what body region the player shot." (Citation 11 - "Setting a New Standard For First-Person Gaming". Game Informer.) In fact, enemies in Turok have simple rectangular hit boxes and the death animations are random.

How can I make an edit that contradicts a cited source when the only source I can cite is my own experience with a game? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:5C00:BD55:14B7:5C35:5F7A:54AB (talk) 03:00, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi 2601:1C0:5C00:BD55:14B7:5C35:5F7A:54AB, and welcome to the Teahouse. The short answer is you can't. That is what is know as original research, and isn't allowed on WP. The best thing you could do is post a question on that game's talk page, and another editor might know of a source which verifies your personal experience.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 04:08, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Submit a draft

What are the chances of my draft article being published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plortinum2 (talk • contribs) 03:31, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

If you are talking about Draft:Bipolar Disorder, the chances are nil. It is a copyright violation, so the draft will soon be deleted. In any case, an article already exists at Bipolar disorder, so if you can improve that (based on published reliable sources but using your own words) you can edit the existing article. --David Biddulph (talk) 03:47, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Stylized caps in titles

Hi. I've seen articles around creative subjects which have stylized ways of writing the title, Mstrkrft and Pink (singer) come to mind, where the common usage of the names are MSTRKRFT and P!NK. ABBA is in all caps, but that is an acronym, so would fall under MOS:CAPSACRS. But there are other bands in which their titles are in all caps, like MGMT, STRFKR, PWR BTTM, and probably another half dozen or so. Does anyone know the specific WP policy regarding this, if there is one? Onel5969 ^{TT me} 04:13, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

No, sorry, but I'm aware of NIИ + twenty øne piløts. –84.46.53.245 (talk) 04:23, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks 84.46.53.245 Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

@Onel5969: MOS:TITLE, WP:MOSTM, & WP:BANDNAME. -- AxG / ✉  11:44, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Collective Causation: Entry Denied

Dear Wikimedia Community,

I am a science textbook author and educator. I've been researching linguistic anthropology as it might apply to global warming and similar issues where there is a lack of language describing "micro causations" culminating in a "collective causation". I've learned that for a society to get a handle on an issue, there first must be a language describing that issue. For example, in the 1950s, Robert Levy was able to correlate high rates of suicide in Tahiti to there being no word for "grief" in the Tahitian native language. Similarly, in modern society, we are short on language to describe the underpinnings of issues such as global warming, lung cancer, drunk driving, elections, pollution, and more. These are all examples where seemingly insignificant, but numerous "micro-causations" combine to provide a very real "collective causation".

In my teaching, I would like to be able to use these very terms to help my students understand the root of many modern problems, most notably global warming. Understanding and appreciating the root of a problem is key to 1) believing there's a problem, 2) accepting responsibility for the problem, and 3) taking personal action to relieve that problem.

I attempted to create a Wikipedia entry for the term "Collective Causation". My entry, which is my first ever, was promptly declined for being too "essay" like. I had tried the sandbox and studied various help pages, but to no avail.

Thank you for any assistance or editing suggestions you are able to provide for allowing this entry. I will paste the entry below. Thank you for this consideration.

Good chemistry,

John Suchocki, Ph.D. Conceptual Chemistry, et. al. Founder, Conceptual Academy

Display collapsed, as not the place for a draft

Collective Causation Also expressed as collective-causation, which is the sum result of numerous micro-causations. People are generally familiar with a direct causation. Tip over a glass of milk. This directly causes the milk to spill. Hit your toe against a corner, and this causes pain, depending upon how hard you hit the corner. A collective-causation is more difficult to appreciate. While one cigarette won’t cause lung cancer, smoking many cigarettes over many years most likely will. The habitual smoking of cigarettes is thus a “collective causation” of lung cancer. Each cigarette, in turn, is a “micro causation”. One might ask: Does a one beef steak cause arteriosclerosis? Does one child not getting vaccinated cause an epidemic? Does one vote impact an election? Does one water bottle thrown out the car window cause a plastic problem in the oceans? Does one drive to the grocery store increase atmospheric carbon dioxide? Does one raindrop cause a flood? These are all examples of micro-causation. For all of these, you have a little event that can add up to a large event when the numbers are also large. The answer to all of the above questions, according to the idea of collective causation, is yes. As the human population continues to soar, collective causations will become all the more notable. And because the rapid rise of the human population is ever so recent, the very idea of collective causation is not generally recognized. This is particularly problematic when it comes of the issue of global warming. When one’s actions account for only a tiny fraction of the whole, then blame for the collective causation is easily discounted and not personal. Similarly, collective causation explains, in part, why quitting the smoking of cigarettes is so difficult. The danger posed by one cigarette (one micro-causation) is truly miniscule, but not zero. Because miniscule and zero are relatively close to each other, the smoker may thus erroneously equate the two. Likewise, it is easy to discount the combustion of one tank of gasoline as a significant cause of increases in the atmospheric level of carbon dioxide, a potent greenhouse gas. Truly, it is not a significant cause. But it is, in fact, a micro-causation, which means a collective causation is inevitable when there are so many people burning through tanks of gasoline. Connecting the results of any collective causation to its micro causations is key to solving any problems that arise. As an example, drunk driving is a collective causation of thousands of highway deaths each year. The micro causation is an individual drunk driver, who still stands a chance of making it home safely without harming anyone. When cars were first introduced, the collective causation of drunk driving was not recognized. Public awareness efforts by organizations such as Mother’s Against Drunk Driving, schools, and police departments have helped to change the culture to the point where the connection between the collective causation and the micro causation has become generally recognized. Such a shift in culture takes decades of sustained public awareness efforts and is something that will need to be maintained indefinitely. In short, because micro causations are so easily dismissed, unlike direct “macro” causations (such as spilling milk), getting the public to do something about it is quite the challenge. All the more so with global warming given that the results of the collective causation are long term, unpredictable, and generally not as visible to us as a horrid car accident scene. An important first step will be bringing the terms “collective causation” and “micro causation” into our daily language. When this is the case, identifying the problem and pushing for micro causation remedies will be all the more possible. The terms collective causation and micro causation were generated by John Suchocki in the development of his Big Picture podcast series. He gives thanks and recognition to linguistic anthropologists, such as Robert Levy, and cognitive scientists, notably George Lakoff.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnSuchocki (talk • contribs) 04:15, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

The policy is at WP:Neologism. If/when the topic has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple published independent reliable sources it would then be considered notable in Wikipedia's terms and could be the subject of an article. Your existing draft had no references at all. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:33, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello All

This is my first time making and editing Wikipedia articles. I only joined Wikipedia so I could shed light on an underrated artist I discovered while doing a research project. Here is the link to my draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Susan_Watkins

I have submitted it for review, but as I am able to still edit it I would appreciate suggestions. I would like to make the small biographical box at the top right of the page showing the birth date, death date, etc. but I don't know how. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dystopianfox (talk • contribs) 08:39, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello Dystopianfox! Without checking the sources, I have to say that this looks very impressive. About the infobox, what I would do in your case is look at for example Florine Stettheimer, click "edit" and copy the "infobox artist" code to your draft but of course fill in the info you want. Pinging Vexations, in case they want to comment. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:01, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Dystopianfox, I have added the infobox, but suspect that her date of birth is incorrect. Shouldn't it be 1875 in stead of 1857 that would make her 38 at the time of her death, closer to what one of the sources says (37). Vexations (talk) 14:10, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

My Greatest Question

How did life begin? - @Bewwy3

Start with Abiogenesis, Creation myth or perhaps Sexual intercourse. Also, for questions such as these we have Wikipedia:Reference desk. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:11, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

You were told (at #How many planets were discovered beyond our Milky Way? Are there any yet? above) that the Teahouse is about asking questions about editing and using Wikipedia. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:15, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Advice and welcome now given directly to user at User talk:Bewwy3. Nick Moyes (talk) 10:04, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

A pair of questions from the beginner.

Hello everybody! I'm planning to improve my article draft Draft:Boris_Turzhanskiy, so I've got a couple of questions. At first, is it possible to cite archive documents as proofs and how it is done in en-wiki? At second, is it possible to use illustrations, downloaded in ru-wiki, here? And how (if the picture wasn't uploaded to Commons)? Please excuse me if I've mistaken in something. EX690662 (talk) 09:59, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, EX690662, and welcome to the Teahouse. In answer to your first question: it depends on what you mean by "archived documents". It is a fundamental principle of Wikipedia that all information in articles must come from reliably published sources. If the document has been published, then it can be cited: if it is a private document stored in an archive, then it probably can't be. For how to cite it, please look at REFB: the important thing is the bibliographic information that tells a reader what the document is and who published it and when: the sources does not have to be available online, and a URL is a convenience, not an essential part of the citation.

For the second question, it depends on the copyright status of the picture. If it is public domain, or has been released by the copyright owner under a licence compatible with CC-BY-SA, then it can be transferred to Commons, and used from there: see commons:First steps/File transfer and tools. If not, it is possible that it could be separately uploaded to en-wiki, but only if its use satisfies all the criteria in the non-free content criteria. (Note that different langauge Wikipedias have different rules, so the fact that it is used in ru-wiki does not automatically mean that it can be used in en-wiki). You would do this by downloading it to your device from ru-wiki and then uploading it to en-wiki. --ColinFine (talk) 10:47, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

@EX690662: But see also {{Cite archive}} for referencing publicly available documents in formally established archival repositories. This looks an interesting draft - well done. Could you give us a url to the ru-wiki page, please? I can't find him by using the English spelling of his name. Nick Moyes (talk) 10:55, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

It's ru:Туржанский, Борис Александрович, Nick Moyes. v--ColinFine (talk) 12:34, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

While sources in english are not mandatory, they don't hurt either. [2][3] at least mention him. You could try to ask for input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:50, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Could someone clarify something for me?

Hi all, could anyone confirm (or deny) if Reddit can be used as a reliable source? I'm pretty sure its not but open to corrections. Thanks Nightfury 12:58, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

My understanding is that Reddit contains too much user provided content to be a reliable source, much like us (Wikipedia). Britmax (talk) 13:08, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Yup, that's my understanding as well. You can use the sources listed in Reddit wikis/posts just fine, if they are from reliable websites. But the content on Reddit itself is too user-generated. ShindoNana ^talk? 13:11, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

There's actually a redirect: WP:REDDIT. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Interesting... Thanks all. Nightfury 15:01, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Adding a reference to one's own published work

Is it permissible to add a reference to and a brief statement about one's own published work in a refereed scientific journal? This would be added as a reference to a pre-existing article and it is directly to the point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:405:4400:B301:C17E:A86E:18A9:BF37 (talk) 13:19, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello IP editor. With care, I think a qualified 'yes' is in order. I've done a very similar thing myself in the past, but it is essential to only add a reference that genuinely adds value to an article and is not in any way promoting oneself or one's writing, and is in a properly published book or journal of good standing. Had you linked to the article in question, or to your source, we might have been able to help you a little more. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:55, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Well put. A little more at WP:SELFCITE. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:18, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Finance department life dates in titling

Hello Teahouse,

I have a question about page titling conventions.

An Australian finance department has had a few iterations, and there are varying titles as follows:

1. Department of Finance (1976–97)
2. Department of Finance and Administration
3. Department of Finance and Deregulation
4. Department of Finance (Australia)

Is there a preference for life dates in the same fashion as Department of Finance (1976–97)? I realise that the earlier listing for Department of Finance uses the dates as differentiation. But would it be appropriate to have the date listing for the other names? I’ve done examples below but is this something that would involve a page move proposal, or is it not necessary?

Department of Finance and Administration (1997–2007) Department of Finance and Deregulation (2007–2013) Department of Finance (Australia) (2013–present)

Thank you for your advice! - SunnyBoi (talk) 13:25, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• @SunnyBoi: (I made a minor reformatting to your post)

First of all, it may be appropriate not to have that many articles (though redirects from the appropriate titles might be warranted). One could probably merge all historical information into Department_of_Finance_(Australia)#History, as that article is not extremely long at the moment.

Assuming all articles are kept, I cannot find the guideline right now, but there is no need to parallelize the disambiguation pattern (for instance Mercury (planet) needs a DAB parenthetical because of the metal but Jupiter does not); the idea is in general to use the least disambiguation possible. If you do need disambiguation (for instance if the next iteration changes back to "finance and deregulation"), then there is an argument to keep the DAB consistent (hence Mercury (mythology), Saturn (mythology) etc. - "(god)" or "(Roman mythology)" would probably have been appropriate as long as it is consistent). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 16:29, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

How do I change a page title?

I work for the gallery that represents the artist Glen Baxter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Baxter_(cartoonist)). Unfortunately his wikipedia page calls him a 'cartoonist' as part of the page header i.e. Glen Baxter (cartoonist). This is not correct. It should be a fairly simple change by simply clicking the move button and making the change I require. However, for some reason I do not have this option. Please help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucykeystratton (talk • contribs) 15:39, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Convenience link Glen Baxter (cartoonist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Eagleash (talk) 15:45, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Lucykeystratton, Hi, I already answered your question at the Help Desk. However, It appears that this person is a cartoonist, and if you do work for the mentioned gallery, you would have to declare a WP:COI WelpThatWorked (talk) 15:48, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

An editor changed title to Glen Baxter (artist). Cannot be just "Glen Baxter" because there are several Glen Baxters. Glen Baxter (cartoonist) now redirects to the (artist) article. David notMD (talk) 18:33, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

How to Request Help with an Article?

Hello, I have created a living person biography 'draft' that is pending review. I wanted to inquire if there is a process to request for someone to take a look to see if I have attributed the quotations properly and if this is an acceptable practice - some are in the body and some are indented. Also would be very helpful to have input on the content if it reads in a NPOV to determine if it still needs more work. I am new at this. Have done a lot of ready but still would appreciate the help if that is possible in this space. Thank you! LorriBrown (talk) 15:53, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

@LorriBrown: I cannot comment on the quality of the citations at this time, but just a couple minor style pointers (shouldn't affect draft acceptance, but will improve it): please don't use title case in the headers, and make sure to use quotation marks instead of double apostrophes. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 16:08, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) The draft is at Draft:Kent Tate. Putting it to review, as you have done, is the intended process to get some feedback.

(Channel 2) I changed the title case and will correct the double apostrophes to quotation marks. I didn't realize I had done this... can you give provide me with an example so I can see where I've used the double apostrophes? Thank you very much!! LorriBrown (talk) 19:33, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

@LorriBrown: Are you sure File:Kent_Tate.jpg is eligible for CC-BY-SA licensing? The URL in the file information is a 404, but in any case the main site does not waive copyrights. Copyright violations are a big no-no on Wikipedia. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 16:16, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

@Tigraan: I removed the picture but can you help me understand what the problem is? Thank you!!! LorriBrown (talk) 19:33, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

LorriBrown, I think you should consider the guidance at WP:QUOTEFARM. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:17, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk I will take a look. Thank you! LorriBrown (talk) 19:33, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

How do I create a second new article?

I seem unable to find a way to offer a second article for publication. Please can you give me simple instructions to do this?

IanOverington (talk) 16:14, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Creating a WP-article that isn't quickly deleted is seldom simple, but have you looked at Wikipedia:Your first article? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:31, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

@IanOverington: A user can make any number of separate 'sandboxes' pages to work in. I didn't quite read your question correctly, so went ahead and made one for you, sorry. It's at User:IanOverington/sandbox2 and all I did was change the url by adding a number '2', pressed enter, and clicked 'create', then added a line of text for you and saved (published) the page to the internet. I think you've already had enough feedback for me not to lecture you on Conflict of interest and self-promotion, but you are free (within certain limits) to draft a new article or work on content there. But, as was said above, WP:AFC is probably the best place to do it, but you can always come back here and ask for a 'submit for review' button to be added to any page you've worked on. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:37, 5 March 2019 (UTC).

Editing help and publishing help PLEASE HELP

hello, recently I have created a draft for a business and submitted it for review, I knew it wouldn't be published i was just looking for feedback now i am hoping to find someone to help me edit and publish my page. is there anyone you would recommend? if there isn't anyone how can i fix my page and get it published? I also don't know how to cite my sources correctly using the wiki platform, I've read all the links and pages others have sent me but honestly i am awful at this type of work and would really prefer professional help. here is a link to my draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Cathead_Vodka — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huntermwilliamson (talk • contribs) 17:34, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

@Huntermwilliamson: I have very little time right now, and so cannot address all of your points, but unbolding the headers would be a start. It is written in a tone that, while ideal for a piece on the company web-site, is not suited for Wikipedia; for instance, "expanded its horizons", while sounding grandiose, is not a great phrase here. Reading an article about a different company (pick one, as long as there's no orange tags up top) should give you an idea of what it should look like. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 18:23, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Huntermewilliamson. Wikipedia will accept an article about your company only if the article can be almost 100% based on what people who have no connection with your company have chosen to write about it - not from your press-releases or interviews, but from their own independent research. The Wikipedia jargon for this is whether or not your company is notable: if it is not, then no amount of editing or rewriting can create an acceptable article about it. If Wikipedia ever does have an article on your company, it will not be your article, and you will have no control over the contents; and in general Wikipedia has no interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say, only in what independent people have said about them. So unless you can find at least three independent reliable sources with substantial material about the company, you should give up and waste no more time on it. (Note that the New Orleans City Business article, for instance, is based on an interview or press release, and so does not count). The reviewing editor, Barkeep49 judged that the references currently in the draft do not establish its notability.

On the subject of professionals: there are people who will take your money and promise to create a Wikipedia article for you; they are permitted to operate, under the rules for paid editing, but whatever they tell you, they cannot guarantee that an article will be accepted, or that it will be satisfactory for you, or that it will stay that way. My advise is to steer clear of them. Wikipedia is mostly created by volunteers, and the only effective way to get somebody to write an article for you is to engage their interest, not offer them money.

I guess that you, like many people, believe that it will be advantageous to you to have a Wikipedia article. This may or may not be the case (see PRIDE for a counter-suggestion), but Wikipedia will go along with you only as far as is consistent with Wikipedia's principles; which forbid promotion of any kind. --ColinFine (talk) 18:38, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Huntermwilliamson, In addition to what everyone else said I would take a look at referencing for beginners. The long list of sources at the bottom make it hard to tell where information came from. The way I recommend trying to write an article is to find good reputable sources (what we call reliable sources and summarize, neutrally, what they say about the company. These kinds of sources shouldn't be based on press releases or interviews. Hope that helps. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:49, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Article

Can I write an article about what is the steps!

Faithfully, Abdallah Hossam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.238.52.134 (talk) 19:06, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Your first article. And please sign your comments with the four tildes. ~~~~ TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:21, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

John H Reagan

Good Afternoon, I would like to know how I can find out who has edited John H Reagan's page, the date it was edited and what supporting evidence they had to add or subtract from his page. I ask this because I am a 1979 graduate of John H Reagan in Austin and they are changing the name of the school due to his alleged support of slavery and allegations of his owning slaves. Any information that you cold provide would be greatly appreciated. Respectfully Todd A. English- GM1 SEAL Team 17 (Ret) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.157.229.135 (talk) 19:23, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Article in question is John H. Reagan High School (Austin, Texas). David notMD (talk) 19:36, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Todd A. English. If you go to John Henninger Reagan, and click the "View history" tab at the top of the page, you can see every edit to the article in reverse chronological order, and who made those edits. The refererences at the bottom of the article provide much more information about this person. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 19:40, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Ah, that was better answer from Cillen328. The article John Henninger Reagan is about the person. In "View history" there are green and red numbers inside ( ). Green means content was added. Red means content was substracted. Whenever a change is made, the editor making that change is supposed to provide a brief description of what they did. The article John H. Reagan High School (Austin, Texas) is about the school. The beginning of the article about the school describes the name change and states that this will become effect for the 2019-2020 school year. Thus, rightfully the article itself still goes by the previous name. David notMD Hope this helps. (talk) 19:46, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

external links to stuff page is sort of promoting

As an example, the lede on Ted Genoways, unquestionably a notable writer, names two of his books and links the titles to google books. I've seen pages that link to Amazon. Is this kosher?E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:13, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Advice on template https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Daan1969/sandbox

Hi guys, I just wrote my first extended article, using examples from other pages to make sure I was doing it the way it was supposed to be, but somehow it was detected as a G11 infringement. So I guess I missed something. I already did the speedy deletion contest, as I think I wrote an article from a neutral point of view, but any help - also for future articles about Dutch female leadership - is highly appreciated. Daan1969 (talk) 21:15, 5 March 2019 (UTC)Daan1969

Rejected draft of Robert Beckham Mugimba recently moved to Robert Mugimba page

hello teahouse my name Robert Mugimba and i would like to know why my drafts are always declined for now almost a year. i am creating a biography and i would need help because even my pictures that i upload are always turned down. i kindly need a response on how i can be helped.