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June 8

Internal link via an image?

Probably a question that gets asked here all the time, so I apologise in advance, but is there a way to make an image's link point to an article, instead of the image description page? Or is this prevented so that the image description page is always easily available? It would be to make the logo in this template point to the band's main article. Thanks in advance for the help! Tbone762 00:33, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

{{Click}}. Yup, click there. x42bn6 Talk Mess 00:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Tbone762 00:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

To use the template insert the following to a page:

{{click|image=example.png|link=Example|width=50px|height=50px}}

Change the functions accordingly. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 02:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

The Value of the Written Word

The Value of the Written Word

The value of asking questions in a meaningful manner. -- JackofOz 02:01, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps the individual is asking what is The Value of the Written Word. If that is your question my friend, then it is more precious then gold. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 02:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I entirely agree. I believe the question - not being one that seeks help with using Wikipedia, which is what this Help desk is for - would best be asked at the Humanities Reference Desk. If the questioner phrases it as a question, clearly stating what he or she wishes to know, it will receive some decent responses, and I can't wait to see what they are. -- JackofOz 03:12, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

This non-question illustrates how much more valuable the written word often is when it forms a complete sentence! Writing is valuable for a number of reasons: it augments notoriously fallible human memory; it potentially outlasts its writers; it can be copied and transmitted by machines to readers who would otherwise never meet the writers; and it is potentially more precise than spoken language because it can be edited. Writing is the instrument of scholarship because it allows for much deeper analysis, reflection, and refinement than is possible in a spoken exchange. However, "the value of the written word" is a somewhat vague concept, because different written words have different values to different people. Some written words may be, in some contexts, more valuable than gold, but many of the billions of Web pages, not to mention most of the e-mail spam messages clogging our inboxes, probably aren't more valuable than gold to most people. I certainly would trade all my e-mail spam for any measurable quantity of gold. --Teratornis 03:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Submitting Articles

How do I submit articles?

See Help:Starting a new page. --CWY2190^TC 04:40, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Log-in errors

After I log in, the first page I go to shows at the top right that I'm not logged in. Every time I've tried to log-in again and the same thing happens. I've set the cookies option, and the sites I allow, also I've used Firefox and IE 6.0+. Any help?

Help:Logging in gives some possible problems and solutions. I hope this helps Peacent 05:23, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I required the book or any other thing related to Gaur Rajput.

Dear Sir,

I require book or any other which is related to gaur rajput. thanks

Try doing a Google search or researching at Wikibooks, a free content book gallery. E ^talk 10:20, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Belarus

Hello! I found some mistakes about history of my country, Belarus. I have tried several times to delete them or edit the page, I guess I did it in a wrong way. However, we really need to correct the errors as WIKIPEDIA is the most popular online encyclopedia and it is a pity that it contains errors. Thank you!

Fiorilo

You made the change correctly, but another user undid your change. You might want to discuss this with Zscout370 by editing User talk:Zscout370, to try to come to an agreement over whether the change should be made or not; see also Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. --ais523 08:46, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

• As far as I know at least part of that statement is true. Belarus was part of Soviet Russia. Instead of deleting it outright, you should probably explain why you think it's wrong and try to replace the text with something correct instead of removing it.

Defectcon

Hi I think there is a template called the defect con that show the level of vandalism on wikipedia, does any one know if it still exist and what page it's on, I haven't seen it in ages. Thanks. --•Lwarf• Talk! 10:04, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

{{Wdefcon}}. (It's 'Defcon', not 'Defectcon', although that's quite a good name for it.) --ais523 10:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. --•Lwarf• Talk! 10:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

how do

[[Media:Example.ogg]]

Do you have a question? --ais523 10:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Isn't it ironic - in cases like this, the one who asks the question is the one who is here to answer questions. And that question is answered by the one who should have asked a question. Funny old world sometimes. -- JackofOz 10:29, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Do well. Thankyou. Anything else I can help with? - Tiswas^(t) 10:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Personal info on User & User talk pages

A new editor has placed a telephone number on their talk page - What is policy in this regard? (Assuming the editor is placing their own information on the page) - Tiswas^(t) 10:49, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

As far as policy goes if someone puts their telephone number or email address on the help desk, we are required to remove it. As for userspace, I believe it should be removed, but sorry I can't refer you to any policies at this point in time. E ^talk 11:03, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Just found something here on the userspace policy. Is someone else willing to show their opinion? E ^talk 11:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - Tiswas^(t) 11:13, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

• Well. Jimbo has a phone number somewhere. As long as the person is entirely aware of the possible consequences I'd allow it, but very few people do know what it could lead to. - 131.211.210.17 11:58, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Jimbo Wales only has a telephone number there for numerous reasons such as press inquiries. Other Wikipedia users should not really have personal information on their user pages, etc. due to privacy concerns. E ^talk 12:12, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

I was wondering if there was anyway to argue a serious vandalism warning that has been given to you if you were acting in good faith? Tag-molio 11:13, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

'Replying' to the warning in much the same way that I'm replying to you now is a good way to comment on it and explain what happened. You could also discuss the warning with the person who gave it by editing their User Talk page. --ais523 11:15, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

But that was way too harsh. Mike needs to AGF. Cool Blue^{talk to me} 11:16, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I thought so too Cool Blue. So what should I do? Just ignore it? Is it a '3 strikes you're out' kinda thing? Tag-molio 11:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't ignore this. I've invited the warning user to participate in this discussion. Cool Blue^{talk to me} 11:20, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

You also don't have to leave a warning template on your talkpage; the warner was in error replacing it after it was removed. Anchoress 11:29, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh so I was allowed to remove it? It isn't the most desirable thing to have there lol Tag-molio 11:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree that giving a blatant vandal warning is too harsh in this case, but their edits look malicious, they deserve a warning, probably a test1 or something like that. Peacent 11:40, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I think from now on I'll just go back to anonymously viewing Wikipedia, the protocol and disputes don't really entice me. I appreciate the warning user wants to uphold the integrity of the site, but he certainly seems a little over-zealous. Thanks for the help though guys. Tag-molio 11:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

How does one get a media wiki download?

How does one get a media wiki download? Hyper flyin' 12:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

From the official MediaWiki download page. E ^talk 12:16, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

i need help

i'm quite arty so would like to help with picture bbut have no idea how to imbed one in a artical please help me with this rather important question --Wwjd333 12:09, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Once the picture's been uploaded (instructions), you include it in an article by 'linking' to it; see Help:Image for full instructions. --ais523 12:16, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

show

show — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.80.166.129 (talk • contribs)

I can't figure out what you're trying to ask. --ais523 12:23, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I suggest a question like this should be removed on sight next time... Peacent 12:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

If it's recent (it no longer is) then it might be somebody who saved too soon and will try to edit the section to ask a question. ais523's comment was 1 minute after "show" was saved.[1] PrimeHunter 13:49, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Permission for use of Wikipedia photos in a book

Hello. I would like to obtain authorization to use 3 photos taken from wikipedia biographies in a scholarly work tentatively scheduled for publication in October this year. The photos are not marked as copyrighted in the respective pages. Thy will of course be used with attribution ( courtesy of Wikipedia). They are as follows: 1- Picture of Ahmad Qavam former Iranian Prime minister. 2- Photo portrait of Ayatollah Hussein Borujerdi (defunct Shiite leader) 3- Princess Ashraf Pahlavi

The book title ( tentativ) is CIA Myth in Iran; A New Look at Overthrow of Doctor Mosaddegh in August 1953. Author: (personal info removed)

You can click on an article to find out its copyright permission. Image 1 is licensed public-domain, so there is no copyright holder and you can use the image without any extra conditions at all. Image 3 is marked as 'fair use', so neither Wikipedia nor the image uploader holds the copyright and we can't grant anyone permission. I can't figure out what image you're referring to with number 2; could you give a link? --ais523 12:46, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Thanks for your response. The link you requested ishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seyyed_Husayn_Borujerdi

Image:BorujerdiHossein.jpg is also marked as public domain. You may want to do some research to verify the copyright status of this and Image:Ahmad ghavam.jpg before publishing them in a book, however. While the uploader marked them as old enough to be in the public domain (see the image pages for more information), there is no source provided that states the dates on which they were taken or the dates of the photographers' deaths. Calliopejen1 08:31, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello again: Indeed Qavam is dead since 1955 and Boroujerdi since 1962; I therefore believe no copyright question could apply to these two images. On Princess Ashraf the person who uploaded it to Wikipedia may in fact be able to shed light on status of the photo as, judging by scripts handwritten in Persian, it seems it is a picture dedicated to to some one ( seemingly a three- star Iranian general). Would it be possible you contact the original uploader or put me in contact with him/her?

Conflict edit of this page does not work

will save this heading and then edit it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbiel (talk • contribs)

The Sandbox (Wikipedia:Sandbox or WP:SAND) is better for testing than the Help Desk; if you have a user account, you could also use a user sandbox at Special:Mypage/Sandbox for testing. --ais523 12:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

If you want to start a new section on this page then click the '+' to the right of 'edit this page' at the top. That way you will not get an edit conflict with another edit made while you wrote the new section. PrimeHunter 13:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Background colour

Hi,

Wikipedia is so fascinating I spend much too much time following links and learning. This is hard on the eyes since the default background is bright white. I have tried selecting other skins, but even then the background tires my eyes. Is is possible to customise the background colour to something I can comfortably work with for extended periods? One of the skins is called MySkin. Is this somehow modifiable to my taste?

Thanks in advance for your help.

- Rob.

All the skins are modifiable. If you have a user account, you can modify any part of your skin by changing Special:Mypage/monobook.css (for instance, if you use Monobook; other skins have their own .css files, normally named after the skin but standard.css in the case of Classic). In the case of changing the background,

.ns-0 * #content {
    background: #F8FCFF;
}

is the coding to change the background for articles to the light blue that's here on the Help Desk; you can use other color codes instead of the #F8FCFF to change it to a different colour. Bypass your cache after any changes to a personal .css page, or the changes won't take effect immediately. Hope that helps! --ais523 13:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok - that did the trick. I would never have found that by myself. Thanks.

Re ; Mercuryrocks

Is Mercuryrocks going to be considered for submission ? please advise

This is a wiki, meaning that everyone can contribute freely. That said, nothing is really "considered for submission". If you think Mercuryrocks deserves its own article, then you can add it yourself. Just make sure it meets our guidelines for notability (See Wikipedia:Notability (music)). You can find help on starting a new article at Wikipedia:Your first article. Let us know if you have any other questions. tiZom_(2¢) 16:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Science

How does the inhibition of prostaglandin E2 production control pain/inflammation?

This is the Help desk. It is for questions regarding the use and editing of Wikipedia. For questions of a factual nature outside the scope of Wikipedia itself, please see the appropriate section of the Reference desk. Dismas|^(talk) 15:16, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Bose radio

Have a Bose AWR1-1W / A9449 s/n AWRIOHU229668. The indicating light (at the front has gone out), but the radio still is working. Does Bose have a repair facility or such. Would appreciate the info or suggestions.

R. Bailey - Houston Texas ((E-Mail removed for security purposes))

This is the Help desk. It is for questions regarding the use and editing of Wikipedia. For questions of a factual nature outside the scope of Wikipedia itself, please see the appropriate section of the Reference desk. Dismas|^(talk) 15:16, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Comet

Why does the Comet's tail appear in the opposite direction of the sun? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.254.70.9 (talk • contribs)

Please see above answer. tiZom_(2¢) 16:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

See Comet#Physical characteristics. Please relay this message to the teacher who assigned this homework question: "Your students probably will not have much use later in life for anything they learn about comets, but if you can teach them how to look things up in Wikipedia on their own they will change the world." --Teratornis 16:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Company info

how do you submit a company and its information about the company in the wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GazelleInteractive (talk • contribs)

If the company meets our guidelines for notability (See Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)), and your contributions won't be considered a conflict of interest (See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest), then please feel free to add a new page for the company. You can find help on starting a new article at Wikipedia:Your first article. Let us know if you have any other questions. tiZom_(2¢) 16:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

deleted entry

I was trying to make an entry about an innovative new website, but it keeps getting deleted. I keep changing the information, but then someone else deletes it. Below is the exact text of my most recent attempt. Could you please tell me what I'm doing wrong? Bungee41 16:45, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

It was certainly deleted because the site is non-notable or considered advertising. Please note that not just any site can be considered notable enough to have an entry on Wikipedia. You can try Wikipedia:Deletion review/Content review to get the text of the article, however, please don't create it again without going through the appeal process at WP:DRV. The Evil Spartan 16:48, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

You may also be interested in reading the notability criteria for web sites at WP:WEB. Dismas|^(talk) 17:27, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

You can see deletion logs at [2], [3] and [4]. If you created it all 7 times then that sounds around 6 times too many. PrimeHunter 17:35, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Expert template

Does any template exist saying something like "this article is written too professionally/from a scientific point of view, using too much jargon without explaining it, so that newbies on the subject can hardly understand it"? It'd be awesome to stick onto pages that seriously need a less complicated wording or more explanation (e.g. endothelial dysfunction, Asynchronous Transfer Mode). SalaSkan 17:23, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Yep, you might be thinking of {{layman}}, {{technical}}, or {{confusing}}. Dismas|^(talk) 17:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! SalaSkan 17:49, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Propulsion

Is there any inspiration/propulsion-related essay or something like that within Wiki (except WP:PRO)? My first sight search was fruitless. Thanks in advance. --Brand спойт 17:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand your question. By "within Wiki" do you mean "within the Wikipedia: namespace"? And "inspiration" to do what? "Propulsion" makes little sense in this context because I am not familiar with your apparent idiom. If you are looking for essays in the Wikipedia: namespace, see: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia which lists lots of them. If you are looking for motivation to edit on Wikipedia, you might read:

• Wikipedia:Why Wikipedia is so great
• The Hive, by Marshall Poe, The Atlantic Monthly, September 2006 - an article describing the history of Wikipedia

Or just browse around Wikipedia, see how great it is, and get inspired to help out. --Teratornis 19:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Skin

Above someone asked how to change the backround color. I tried that. What other things can you customize, and what is the code for it? Maddie ^{was here} 17:57, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

If I get you properly, try Wikipedia:Preferences#Skin and the rest of that stuff. If you have some knowledge, Help:User style would be also useful.--Brand спойт 18:09, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, it hasnt changed anything, is there something i did wrong? User:Maddiekate/monobook.css Maddie ^{was here} 18:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Question!!

I wrote about Katrina Dunn, our artistic director. It’s deleted again. I copied our website and pasted, not from artsclub.com. And I made a link for the source of information. Isn’t that enough? She’s a freelancer director, so that’s why her information is on artsclub’s website also. Even though we own our website and just use that, why there are lots of hassles. And if I need copyright, what kind of copyright I have to get and where to get? Could you please explain this in a nutshell? Last time you sent me a mail, and there were lots of links. But I didn’t know what to read and I couldn’t understand well.

I’ll look forward to hearing from you.Please help me out. Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donkey7471 (talk • contribs)

Have a look through WP:BIO and Linking to copyrighted works. --Brand спойт 18:02, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

And WP:COI. Corvus cornix 18:08, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Currency

I'm copyediting this article on YTL Corporation, and am wondering about the guidelines for including currency.

See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates_and_numbers)#Currency --Kainaw ^(talk) 18:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

and that article is a copyvio and I have reverted it to the last non-copyvio version. --Fredrick day 18:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I am looking for a movie that was out in 1970's or 1980's

Hello, my name is Jacqueline and I am looking for a movie that was out in the late 1970's or 1980's. I remember seeing it as a little girl in the late 1980's on the Disney channel.It was based on a girl named Karen who played Ring Around the Rosie with some of her friends in a temple like place and lightening hits the roof and Karen disappears.The years roll by and a family moves into a house that I believe was hers and the little girl that lives there starts to see her in the mirror at the local carnival and in the house. The little girl even named her dog Nerak which she saw in the window backwards which was really Karen. It is not the horror movie that came out in 2006 named Ring Around the Rosie even though the 2006 movie may have been based on this one. That was a horror movie and the one I am searching for is more of a mystery movie. Please tell me what the name of the movie is and where I may purchase it via e-mail director_Jacqueline_Kline@verizon.net Thank You, Jacqueline — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.173.4.110 (talk • contribs)

You might do better to ask this question at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment. Corvus cornix 18:09, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Or just construct a Google Search with some keywords from the question: Google:Karen Nerak dog movie Disney. One of the links on the first search results page mentions The Watcher in the Woods which may be what you want. I never heard of this movie before so I have no idea, but it looks like it might be the movie you describe. Learn to use Google Search and you will have a proverbial "fishing pole" of your own, so you won't have to ask other people for "fish." --Teratornis 18:26, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Using images from the Commons

I would like to use an image from the Commons, but I'm not sure how to link or upload to it from the article. To be specific, the image is here and I want to place it on The Little Mermaid. Do I need to upload it to Wikipedia? If so, what rationale do I use? Thanks, guys, you're always so helpful. María (habla conmigo) 18:08, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

No, just place it as usual, giving Image:Edmund Dulac - The Mermaid - bright liquid.jpg to any of the article's place. Commons is a shared depository, which means that any Commons image can be used in every language edition. --Brand спойт 18:13, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Cool, thanks so much. :) María (habla conmigo) 18:15, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Piped?

In the context of Wikipeida, what does piped mean? See this for an example in context. I don't understand the jargon here. —Gaff ^ταλκ 18:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

It means that the Wikipedia:Piped link should not be used. --Kainaw ^(talk) 18:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Got it. thanks. —Gaff ^ταλκ 18:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Citation

how do I cite a source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peach bellini (talk • contribs)

See Wikipedia:Citing sources --Kainaw ^(talk) 18:26, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Search

How do I conduct a search on Wikipeia? Thanks, Wayne — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.192.237.108 (talk • contribs)

Type a word (or words) in the "search" box and click the button labeled "Search". --Kainaw ^(talk) 18:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Search and User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Sea for more details and alternatives. You may prefer using Google search on Wikipedia instead of, or in addition to Wikipedia's oft-maligned built-in search. --Teratornis 18:55, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Please be aware that the search on Wikipedia is case sensitive. Corvus cornix 21:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

How do I automatically alphabetize a list of company names?

I have created a table but they aren't in alphabetical order and its hard to find them. Is there any way to automatically alphabetize them or 'sort by' a column in the table?

Any advice would be much appreciated! Thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.35.186.18 (talk • contribs)

Where is this table? On Wikipedia? In a word document? In Excel? On your web page? On a sheet of notebook paper? --Kainaw ^(talk) 18:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

If the table is on Wikipedia or another MediaWiki wiki, see Help:Sorting. --Teratornis 18:52, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Forgot my user name!

I feel pretty stupid, but since I'd only logged in two or three times a few months ago and modified a couple of articles, my user name hasn't stuck in my memory. Nor can I find any email record of the form "Welcome to Wikipedia, your have created an account with the username FOOBAR" or any other email from Wikipedia (perhaps Wikipedia doesn't generate any?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.56.6 (talk • contribs)

Any idea which articles you modified? --Kainaw ^(talk) 19:09, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

You would have received an Email confirmation only if you requested it. If you can remember the titles of some articles you edited, look in their histories for edits around the time when you were active. You might see your username there. --Teratornis 19:16, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

If you can remember what articles you edited, you can check the edit log for that place. Your best bet may be just to start another account...—Gaff ^ταλκ 21:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

New Page

how do you create a new page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by On123123 (talk • contribs)

See Help:Starting a new page --Kainaw ^(talk) 19:16, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

But you won't be able to create one until a few days after you have registered, so it might be a good idea to try an improve a few existing articles first. ElinorD (talk) 19:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Where does it say that?? New users can't move pages but AFAIK, new users can create articles as soon as they create their account. Dismas|^(talk) 19:21, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Help:Starting a new page and Wikipedia:Why create an account?#Abilities given to users with an account both say you need an account. I think page creation was disabled for IP's in 2006 or early 2007. PrimeHunter 19:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

My time was apparently off. The change to Wikipedia:Why create an account? was 5 December 2005.[5] PrimeHunter 19:46, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

No no, read what ElinorD said again. She said that brand new registered users can't create pages. I'm not talking about IPs. I knew that IPs couldn't create new articles. Dismas|^(talk) 20:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Creating my User page

I poached an interesting table from another user to display, on my user page, some things I enjoy (Ottawa Senators fan, for instance). How do these links work, and is there a catalog of other links which are available? You can just point me in the direction of the pertinent article. Thanks. Ccrashh 19:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

See Userboxes. Miranda 19:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

How do I create an Infobox from scratch?

I want to create an infobox completely from scratch for another wiki I am working on. I tried copy/pasting Infobox templates from here, but they seem to depend on other templates or something like that and they do not work in the other wiki.

From what I can tell, an infobox is essentially a template where you can plug in certain information on indivdual pages. I need something like this for the wiki I am working on, and since I am unable to depend on the templates in Wikipedia I would need to do it all from scratch. Would someone please help me figure this out? --Ihmhi 19:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

If you really want to start from scratch, read Help:Template and Help:Infobox. Someone should write a guide about how to copy templates and such from Wikipedia to other MediaWiki wikis (or tell me where it is, if it exists) because, like you, I had to suffer through a lot of trial and error to get things to work. Are you working on a public wiki? If so, give us the link, and I can look at what you have so far. I might be able to tell you what puzzle pieces you are missing, having gone through the same thankless exercise myself a few times. --Teratornis 20:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I should add that you may need to be an administrator on the other wiki, or have an administrator's help, because you might need to copy some or all of MediaWiki:Common.css from Wikipedia to get CSS style classes to work in your infobox. --Teratornis 20:09, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I have something worth puting here, but i dont know how Please help!!

Hello I am Kristi Mycko, My Husband Wrote a verry special song Dedicated to the Family Of troops who go to War. I know Many people write great songs, But this is special, Becaus of this song Called You're My American Hero, He was asked to Preform That song to all the Lawmakers in chambers in the State of ct. Capitol Last April.

No one was ever asked to do this and I feel this is worth having listed on your site. His name is Robert Allen Mycko, and the song was You're My American Hero, and he has a video of the Capitol preformance posted on his web site [6] along with the 5 TV show this song has to its credit.

I hope you can help me i dont know much about computers or how to get this listed.

you can e-mail me at (E-Mail removed for security purposes)

Thanks

Kristi Mycko

Well, since a song is an original thoughts, I don't think that you can't put that here on wikipedia. I think it violates one of our rules called "wikipedia is not a publisher of original thoughts". Chris 21:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Sadly we can not allow this at wikipedia, but there are other sites that you can uplaoad you lyrics, MP3's, and sheet music to. Try SongShare.org. Best of luck! -Ĭ₠ŴΣĐĝё 07:20, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

send to friend=

like t send this information to ((E-Mail removed for security purposes)) if i can sent to her??pkj

You can't directly email an article to someone, but you can save the article (File > Save (Page) As...), then attach this HTML file as an attachment via email. x42bn6 Talk Mess 20:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

"Good Article"

I'm quite mystified by the system of alotting "start" "b" "GA" "a" and "FA" quality tags to articles. For example, it appears that Laurence Olivier is a "former GA" now rated "b" on the strength of the "comments" (sic) found here. Now, setting aside the bizarre idea that an article of this huge length somehow "needs expanding", and the bizarre idea that this one bizarre observation could represent a consensus, I still don't understand how the scaling is actually done. Is there a page somewhere which explains it all?

Sorry if the above appears to be a bit of a rant (bedtime soon, perhaps...) but my question really is about how the procedure works, not about what's wrong at the Laurence Olivier page. AndyJones 20:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

The comments, at least, were posted in July 2006, when the article was this. After, they were never updated. The Good Article system was supposed to be an informal way of classifying good articles, but it has no turned into a bastardized version of Wikipedia:Featured articles. —Centrx→talk • 20:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Good articles for a listing of the criteria. Basically, the Good Article system is a classification scheme for articles that haven't yet reached Featured Article status, or are unlikely to get to that level. In any case, Talk:Laurence_Olivier#GA_passed explains why one reviewer gave it Good Article status in July of 2006, while Talk:Laurence_Olivier#Delisted explains that it was delisted because it didn't meet some of the Good Article criteria. If you're interested in working on restoring Good Article status to this article, you can get in touch with one of the WikiProjects listed on the talk page and ask if people are interested in working on it. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 20:55, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

How to place a picture from commons in an wikipedia article?

I don't know how to do that. Chris 21:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Link just like the image was already on Wikipedia. So, if the image were called "MyImage.jpg" on commons, you would put IMAGE:MyImage.jpg. -- MisterHand 21:33, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair use image

I have worked on an article on artist Luke Chueh. I would like to put an image of one of his works, for example this or this on the page, under what I believe would be fair use, in order to discuss his artisitic style. Is this an acceptable use of fair use policy? thanks. —Gaff ^ταλκ 21:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd say you're absolutely right. In fact, this is what Fair Use is all about. Make sure it's something that is very characteristic of his work, and that it meets all the criteria of Fair Use (low-res, etc.). A good example is The Persistence of Memory.jpg (which, incidentally, is considered Fair Use in several articles — not just that of Dali. tiZom_(2¢) 22:48, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

What am I supposed to put on it for licensing? Its really not a cover or any of the options I see there. —Gaff ^ταλκ 19:34, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

URL

Hi, I am new to wikipedia and do not understand most of the 'computer language' spoken in the help section, nor can I find anything about adding your URL. I can't find the 'Create Page' button either, just the Edit Button (and I have managed to create a page and can find it under 'my contributions' but not on wikipedia. And when I uploaded a picture and added it to my article it didn't show up! What is the problem? Should I just return here to find the answer to my question? Thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Queen Alyssa (talk • contribs)

Will answer on talk --h2g2bob (talk) 23:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

June 9

adding logos/images

Hello - how do I add a logo or image? I see there is an SVG format but not sure what that is. Can I load a logo from my computer or does it have to live online?

I'm trying to edit the msnbc.com to reflect an accurate story of the online entity vs. MSNBC [cable]. What do the two boxes stating that it needs to be 'wikified' mean? What do I do to 'wikify' it?

~ Janetti

Images used on Wikipedia must first meet our Image Use Policy before being uploaded to the site - basically, they have to be in the public domain, under a free license, or meet a very specific fair use rationale (in the case of copyrighted images). In the case of a logo, you should upload it using the following steps:

1. Click here. Then click the link that says "Promotional Photo".
2. Click the browse button to find the image on your computer. Then type a descriptive name (such as Company-Logo.jpg) in the "Destination Filename" box.
3. Type a short description of the image in the Summary box. Also include what article you intend to use it in like so: [[Article]]
4. IMPORTANT: In the drop-down menu, select "Logo". If this is not done, your image will be deleted.
5. Once the upload is complete, go to the article you want to use the image in and add a link to it like this: [[Image:Company-Logo.jpg]]

You can find more information about that here.

For more help about "wikification", see WP:MOS and WP:GTL. I hope this has helped! Hersfold ^(talk/work) 02:11, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Also see {{wikify}}, WP:WWF, WP:WIKIFY, and search the Help desk for: wikify. --Teratornis 16:39, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

rocet launchers

what happend at today,s rocket launch could you show me a website that talks about it please

Sorry, but this page is only for questions about Wikipedia. You may ask this question at the Wikipedia:Reference_Desk however. -- _Hdt83 ^Chat 00:05, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

See Space Shuttle Atlantis and STS-117, if you refer to Friday's space shuttle launch. --Teratornis 02:25, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Creating a page for a different person than is already on Wikipedia

I want to add a page about Allen Klein, the author. There is already a page for Allen Klein, but for a different Allen Klein, the manager of the Beattles. Do I just edit the page that exists and add Allen Klein, the author to it, or, do I make a new page? If the latter, how do I do that?

What you need to do is disambiguate the title. This is generally done by adding a parenthetical after the name clarifying what the person did or what the thing is. For an example of where this is used, we have one article, Bleach, on the chemical. Another, Bleach (band) is on a music group, and a third, Bleach (manga) is on a media franchise. In your case, you want to create the page Allen Klein (author). --tjstrf talk 00:14, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

After creating Allen Klein (author), you can add something like this to the top of Allen Klein: "{{otherpeople4|the American businessman and record label executive|the American author|Allen Klein (author)}}" (assuming he is American). It will display as

This article is about the American businessman and record label executive. For the American author, see Allen Klein (author).

PrimeHunter 00:57, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

External Links?

I understand the external link addition policy that keeps me from listing the interviews I have done and will do with actors and actresses, but I am a tad confused. see http://www.tv-now.com/intervus/index.html

Having links to tv.com and imdb.com for actors is also nothing but a promotion for those sites.

How is an interview with TVNow, which is owned by TV Guide, different from a tv.com link?

Tony Bray

• See WP:COI. Something that is inappropriate for you to add because you did the interview is not necessarily inappropriate for someone else to add. IMDB links are in Wikipedia because they are considered by consensus to be relatively informative and useful links that comply with policy and give information that cannot be placed in the Wikipedia articles on the topics. Additionally, it is not generally an accepted argument in Wikipedia to say "we have item X, why can't we have similar item Y." —Dark•Shikari^[T] 05:36, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Line break help

How do I make a single-spaced line break?

• Insert <br>. ---CWY2190^TC 03:45, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

• You may want to review Wikipedia:Don't use line breaks as well. -- Jreferee 17:18, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

project help

where can i get tools for doing my project in a better way . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.225.198.52 (talk • contribs)

Your question is vague. What project? What do you mean by "a better way"? If you refer to an editing project on Wikipedia, see: Wikipedia:Tools, Wikipedia:Tools/Editing tools, and User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Too. --Teratornis 22:53, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Why was my page deleted?

Dear Sirs: My Page seems to have been deleted. Would you, please, be so kind to explain to me what's happened to it ? And what should I do to avoid it of being deleted in the future ? Thank you very much for your kind attention, while I remain. Yours sincerely, Ivo Jacome —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivo Jacome (talk • contribs)

You might need to check the deletion log of the page in question. See also Wikipedia:Why was my article deleted?. Peacent 08:50, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a link to the page that was deleted or do you recall what it was named? -- Jreferee 17:15, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Non-Latin characters in references

Is there an editorial policy on the use of references that use non-Latin characters? I am writing an article on Israeli music. I have many references to songs whose names are in Hebrew. I have been writing the name of the song in Hebrew characters, followed by an English transliteration, and an English translation where relevant in parentheses. Also, in the bibliography I cite numerous sources in Hebrew. I thought of doing the following:

Author and title in Hebrew, followed by author and title in transliteration in parentheses, following by reference information (publication date, publisher, and so on) in English translation.

I could find no guidelines to this problem in any of the printed style manuals in my possession (McGraw-Hill, Chicago, Prentice Hall, or Turabian). And another thing: When I want to include a media file that is already posted on another website, should I use an external link, or copy the media to the wiki media place (I forgot what it's called)? Is there a preference here, or is either method acceptable? Tnx,--Ravpapa 09:25, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Manual of Style:Foreign terms might lead you to the answer to your question. Also, you might not be able to upload a media file to Wikipedia that is not your own because doing so might violate Wikipedia's copyright policy. If the media file that is already posted on another website, some think that merely linking to it from Wikipedia violates Wikipedia process. Category:Wikipedia_media_files gives examples of properly upoladed media files and may help you find answers to related media questions.-- Jreferee 16:08, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

The media files I am linking to are licensed under the Creative Commons license, so they are kosher according to Wikipedia policy. I am assuming that, since I am linking directly to the original site where they were first posted, and that site contains all the attribution information, I am also fulfilling the CC license requirement of attribution. --Ravpapa 19:27, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Question about a page

I was wondering what i would have to do to keep the page of Dimitris Labatos up? it keeps getting deleted and i wanna know if someone can help to edit it to keep it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Enchanteddrmzceo (talk • contribs)

Apparently the person it is written about is not notable and thus can not be included in Wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia:Notability for guidelines. --Mschel 14:36, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Biographies should demonstrate that the subject satisfies Wikipedia:Notability (people), for example with multiple independent references to reliable sources about the subject. There are only 9 Google hits [7] on "Dimitris Labatos", so it may not be possible to satisfy the guideline. Wikipedia biographies are usually about people who are mentioned far more often. If you are Dimitris Labatos or closely associated with him (your user name hints at that) then please also read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. PrimeHunter 14:52, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I think you would first have to get newpapers or other reliable sources to publish information about Dimitris Labatos to keep the page of Dimitris Labatos up in Wikipedia. I say newspapers because they probably are the easiest way to become Wikipedia notable. Try approaching the local papers where Dimitris Labatos' lives (lived?) and ask them to publish a story or two on his life. You may then be able to use that published information in a Wikipedia article. -- Jreferee 16:33, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Copyrighting wikipedia without permission?

There appears to be this website, called www.answers.com, and they have blatantly copied every single high profile type article off wikipedia, with the images too. Is this allowed???

Yes, wikipedia see WP:5. Sethie 16:09, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I mean the images... 81.154.111.25 16:34, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

According to the Answers.com article, Answers.com gets the majority of its content from Wikipedia, which they then use to generate advertising revenue. I think your question is whether Wikipedia allows www.answers.com to copy the non-free, fair use images (in addition to the free images) and make a profit off use of non-free images. The thread copyright discusses this somewhat. I think the short answer is that Wikipedia does not control the copying actions of others (e.g., Answers.com) and Wikipedia's use of copyright notices with the images is sufficient to address Wikipedia's responsibility. -- Jreferee 16:41, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

More precise answer: the text and most images (and probably all of the images that answers.com includes) on wikipedia are released under the GDFL, which allows even commercial reuse as long as the work is attributed. The whole aim of wikipedia is to create a totally free (as in libre, not gratis) resource that can be used in any way imaginable as long as it remains free to be reused in the same way. Answers.com, as far as I know, complies with the license of wikipedia and therefore is not "copyrighting wikipedia without permission"--they simply re-use it and re-license it under the GDFL. Calliopejen1 19:33, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

A huge number of the images on Wikipedia are Wikipedia:Non-free content. I wasn't aware that Wikipedia:Non-free content was released under the GDFL. Thanks for clarifying that. Also, your explanation of Answers.com's position in this helped complete the answer. -- Jreferee 21:20, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I didn't mean to suggest that Wikipedia's non-free content is released under the gdfl. (It's not, as far as I know.) I was just guessing that answers.com has some sort of algorithm to avoid mirroring copyrighted fair-use pictures (to avoid legal liability where wikipedia users wrongly assert fair use). As it turns out from looking at their website, they don't have any such thing, and they mirror everything. For those images, then, neither wikipedia nor answers.com asserts that they own the copyright, or even any license to use them; they are using them under the fair-use provisions of copyright law. Calliopejen1 03:44, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Sock farm

What is a .. sock .. farm ??? SakotGrimshine 16:07, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, where did you see that phrase? If you're asking about a Wikipedia-related term, I believe it has something to do with WP:SOCK. Peacent 16:10, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

It is a person who creates a bunch of Sockpuppets and meatpuppet, please read WP:SOCK,Regards--Arnon Chaffin (Talk) 16:14, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

It could be the CD released in 2003 by the South Wales group Amman Valley entitled "The Sock Farm." However, according to this blog, Wikipedia:Sock puppetry used to define a sock farm as the home of sock puppets. The term sock farm probably was removed from Wikipedia:Sock puppetry as not being clear. -- Jreferee 16:22, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I mean the Wikipedia kind. It seemed to be something related to having a lot of them, but it wasn't ever defined. "home of sock puppets" -- what does that mean? Sock farm is unclear because it's not defined anywhere, although I see people using it a lot. SakotGrimshine 11:26, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Not sure what to do with this page

Hugo O'Neill any advice? Afd it, or rename it? Sethie 16:09, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

You can Merge it.Arnon Chaffin (Talk) 16:24, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Looks like it falls under Wikipedia is not a directory - Genealogical entries or phonebook entries. I couldn't find any articles with Hugo O'Neill that listed his date of death. It's likely that Hugo O'Neill is not WP:N. It looks like AfD to me. -- Jreferee 16:27, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I knew there was a policy out there somewhere for this! Sethie 16:49, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

A kinder approach than AfD is to first suggest to the author that the page falls under Wikipedia is not a directory - Genealogical entries or phonebook entries. You then may suggest that he may wish to userfy the material for use outside of Wikipedia and then request to have the page deleted via Author requests deletion. -- Jreferee 17:10, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

oral pathlogy.

what are the uses of ultrasound therapy in dentistry

Could you please make it simpler.Arnon Chaffin (Talk) 16:21, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Please see ultrasound and dentist.Arnon Chaffin (Talk) 16:22, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Your question is more suited for the Science Reference Desk. Otherwise, please see this page for more information about oral pathology. Gracenotes^T § 20:54, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Copyright

I received a message telling me that MY article on Denny Jiosa will be deleted--because it is NOT my own work. But it is my work! What is going on? Why is it telling me this? I wrote the article! -- Queen Alyssa 17:22, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Essentially, the Denny Jiosa article was speedy deleted from Wikipedia because the copyright was not owned by Wikipedia. Unless Wikipedia owns the copyright in the article content, the material will be deleted from Wikipedia. It's a little more complex than that, but that is the basics of it. For the Denny Jiosa article, you owned the copyright, not Wikipedia, so the article was deleted from Wikipedia. Your talk page gives instructions on how to fix this problem. -- Jreferee 17:38, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

The previous poster was right in referring you to your talk page. However, the rest of his answer wasn't totally accurate. The issue isn't whether or not wikipedia owns the copyright. (In fact, the content on wikipedia is generally created by people who technically only license their work to wikipedia to use.) The issue is whether you have the ability to give permission to wikipedia to include the copyrighted text on the website. Since wikipedia has no way of knowing you're actually the author of the article, it is deleted. The ways to prove that you are the author of the article (and can therefore give permission) are outlined on your talk page. Calliopejen1 19:27, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Page redirect

How do I redirect common names for an entry to a single page?

Could you be more specific? Normally you just do this: #REDIRECT [[page name]]. The Evil Spartan 19:23, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Don't forget to include a redirect template. If you want to redirect Page 1 to Page 2, place the following code onto Page 1:

#REDIRECT [[Page 2]] {{R from alternate name}}

Or instead of {{R from alternate name}}, use whichever "redirect template" suits you. See Wikipedia:Template messages/Redirect pages for a complete list: it's important to keep track of redirects! Gracenotes^T § 19:38, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

About the main page

Why is there other main pages, such as Mainpage/1 Mainpage/2, etc. Going all the way to ten? 81.154.111.25 19:11, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

They are sort of like "backup copies" in case of emergency. I should not get into too many details per WP:BEANS. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 19:13, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Is this because of hijacked admin accounts keep deleting it? 81.154.111.25 19:19, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's why the other main pages were created. They provide a reasonably complex system of back-ups, in case the main page itself is deleted. If that happened, a message (built into the interface) would appear pointing users to a backup page. I won't go into the details of exactly how this works. Gracenotes^T § 19:29, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Making your own

how do i make my own wikiepdia page where people can look me up! —Preceding unsigned comment added by JesusChick18 (talk • contribs)

First, create an account then once logged in, click your username in the top right corner and that will take you to the page for editing your user page. E ^talk 20:42, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

This person was editing from an account. Well, regardless, this person is probably asking about articles. If so, the answer is: Wikipedia is not MySpace. Pages do not exist only so that people can reach out and socialize with each other. Pages exist to either constitute or somehow help create a neutral, factual, free-content encyclopedia. E (talk · contribs) mentioned user pages above: those are great ways for Wikipedians to learn about you, but only so that collaborating with other users is more like collaborating with other human beings. Welcome to Wikipedia, and it would be more than appreciated if you helped improve our articles. Gracenotes^T § 20:51, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

JesusChick18, see Help:User page for the rules about what you can put on your user page. Ideally you should be editing articles, or contributing constructively to the encyclopedia project indirectly in a Metapedian kind of way - then you should make a user page so other participants can develop a sense of your identity. If you don't care (ever) about building an encyclopedia and you just want to edit a page about yourself, try a social networking site. If you want to edit a page about yourself on a MediaWiki wiki (i.e., a site that works similarly to Wikipedia), try WikiSocial. --Teratornis 23:15, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

IP Address problem

To who ever knows what to do, When editing something without being signed in, I accidently clicked SAVE. Now, my IP address is on the page's editing history, and I do not want this. PLEASE HELP ME IF THERE IS ANY WAY TO CHANGE A PAGE'S EDITING HISTORY OR SOMEHOW TAKE OFF THAT IP ADDRESS. Thank you.

I am afraid the only thing you can do to hide your IP address on wikipedia is, create an account and log in. Francisco Tevez 21:15, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it is unremovable, unless the page is deleted and recreated. E ^talk 21:16, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

To request permanent deletion of personal information, please see Request for Oversight. -- Jreferee 21:31, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Who is user IRISHGUY and why has he deleted my non-spam links to an article?

Hello, a user called IRISHGUY has arbitrarily deleted legitimate links I left to an Errol Flynn article on Wiki. The sites I listed have just as much legitimacy as those already appearing on the site yet he removed them. My Flynn blog has author's Professor Lincoln Hurst of UC Davis a lifelong Flynn writer and collector who appears on TCM and in DVD feaurettes from Warner Bros of Errol's films, author Tom McNulty who wrote the LIFE AND CAREER OF ERROL FLYNN, and Jack Marino who is a family friend of Deirdre Flynn (Rory Flynn's sister who has a link on the page of the article) and of Tony Thomas Flynnn author (now deceased)and documentary maker. My links are are related directly to Errol Flynn information yet this guy deletes my links and leaves others that are no different in content than the ones I attempted to list. What in the world is going on here? Regards, David

Perhaps you should discuss this matter with Irishguy and come up with a decision. Click here to leave Irishguy a new message. E ^talk 21:30, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I have explained it to him. He was spamming links to his own websites in the article. I have directed him to WP:EL and WP:SPAM twice but instead he simply continues to claim that I am censoring him. IrishGuy ^talk 22:11, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi David. I see that your Wikipedia user name is The Errol Flynn Blog. The best way to get the external links to The Errol Flynn Blog back in the Wikipedia Errol Flynn article is to provide information from Wikipedia:External links that supports their inclusion in the article. And you are right in that the other external links in the Errol Flynn article should be reviewed to see whether they meet Wikipedia:External links. -- Jreferee 23:09, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Please note that User:The Errol Flynn Blog has blanked his Talk page with the information that IrishGuy was trying to explain to him. He appears not to be interested in hearing anything that disagrees with his own agenda. Corvus cornix 20:11, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't have my...

I don't have my password and I didn't write my email so I can't get emailed back. I know that the only other way to get my user account back is to get a developer, or someone else with direct access to the database, to beleive that it is my user account so they could possibly get me my password and user account back. But how do I get in touch with them and after that how do prove to them that it's my account?209.205.147.53 21:19, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

If you had no edits on that account, why not just create a new account? E ^talk 21:22, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

At What if I forget the password?, it states If you did not enter an e-mail address, or the address was out of date, but you are determined to regain access to the account, you might be able to persuade someone with direct access to the database that it is your account, and ask them to retrieve it for you. Does anyone know who has "direct access to the database." -- Jreferee 23:16, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I found the answer, 209.205.147.53, and it is you will have to create a new account. That statement about "someone with direct access to the database" was added November 25, 2005. It was TRANSWIKI: from Meta:Help:Logging in. Meta:Help:Logging in:What if I forget the password? states If you enter an e-mail address when signing up for the account, or in your Preferences, you can request on the login screen for a temporary password to be sent to that address, which will allow you to retrieve your account. If you did not enter an e-mail address, or the address was out of date, you will have to create a new account. So, there is your answer. Sorry for the bad news. -- Jreferee 23:30, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Delete a page and then recreate it

Hello,

I was wondering if anybody knows how to delete a page and then recreate it - the exact way it was except that the editing history for the previous would be gone.

Thank you.

Only administrators can delete pages so you might have to discuss this with one of the active admins. E ^talk 21:23, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

In addition, doing what you suggest is against the GFDL. All edits based on previous versions of a page must either 1. Have those revisions accessible in the article history or 2. Include a list of all who contributed to previous revisions. The latter is rather inconvenient, so unless there is a pressing issue (for example, personal privacy violated, or sometimes libel), revisions are usually kept. If those issues do exist, oversight is the best option. Gracenotes^T § 21:27, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello,

does anyone know how to contact active administrators to be able to discuss with them a predicament about deleting a page?

thanks.

If you do not mind answering, what is the name of the page, and why do you think that it should be deleted? Gracenotes^T § 21:27, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

the page is called Joe Califano and I accidently edited the page without logging in so therefore my ip address is visible and i'm pretty sure that's not a good thing. thanks.

I don't think there is any way that the whole history is going to be erased to get rid of that. --Fredrick day 21:33, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

if I edited a page without signing in, and therefore my ip address is visible on the editing page, is there any way to cover up that ip address with my account name? I had accidently edited a page without signing in, and now i'm wondering if I would be able to cover that up somehow by hopefully just my account name.

thanks.

I've accidentally edited with logging in, and nothing bad has come of it. Some people prefer to not share their IP, but in basically all cases, it does not make much of a difference. My frank advice would be not worry about it. Gracenotes^T § 21:44, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

If you are only referring to the two edit made today to Joe Califano, then it might be possible. To request permanent deletion of personal information, please see Request for Oversight. -- Jreferee 21:55, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

If your edit is still the last one on the History, and your IP has not changed, just revert your edit while logged out, then log in and re-revert it back to the edited version. - Kesh 01:59, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Where to ask for input of on AfD?

I would like an experienced user to look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lunds ASK (2nd nomination). I would like a third opinion, but wikipedia:third opinion is only viable if there are only two people involved. Basically I would like to know whether I have to continue replying there, if the arguments for deletions are valid and the article is in danger of deletion.

Whom or where can I request input? I have browsed through pages such as RfC but they don't seem to apply.

Fred-J 21:51, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

AFD is a consensus system (ie, not a vote) in which a closing admin will review and assess the weight and validity of any and all reasoned comments, both for and against. If it is kept, then it gets kept (though work to improve kept articles is always a good idea) and if it gets deleted, then it gets deleted. It is a very fair process and there is a review system in place for the rare occasions when an unfair deletion occurred. So don't worry about it. Adrian M. H. 23:27, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. / Fred-J 12:35, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Multiple comments at an AfD by one user do not get more weight and may even detract from their position, so you might not want to respond to every comment. Your best argument (which hasn't yest been posted in the AfD) is that since the club is famous in Sweeden through its national wins, it is likely the club's history was covered by WP:RS in Sweeden and, given a little more time, those WP:RS are likely to be found by those intersted in the article. -- Jreferee 16:27, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

June 10

Signatures

Hi. I have been trying for over two months and I can't seem to get it right. Hmwith helped me but neither of us could get it to work. Can someone help me? Meldshal42

Get what right? --ST47Talk 00:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh. Check the raw signature box in Special:Preferences, and you're good. --ST47Talk 00:47, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

And if that does not work, paste the code you are using and I will fix it. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 01:23, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

prorportionality

what is proportionality in administrative law ?

That question is better directed at the Reference desk. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 01:26, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Images

I have an image i wish to upload on wikipedia and i have the license and everthing i need but as soon as i press Upload Image my computer freezes. Just as a note, the image is created by me. Efansay ^talk 01:07, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

You may know this, but if the image is large it may appear that your computer is freezing but in reality it is taking time to upload. JodyB _talk 01:14, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

You've also copied my signature. Why not create your own? I can always help you make one. E ^talk 01:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I even made one for you, see Efansay (talk). To use this sig paste the following '''<font face="Verdana">[[User:Efansay|<font color="Green">Efansay</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Efansay|<font color="Purple">talk</font>]])</small></font>''' in your sig box and click raw sig. Save the page then. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 01:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Your local library may have a better internet connection - you could take the file there on CD or Floppy disk. --h2g2bob (talk) 05:28, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

health-disease

Is it true that a woman has higher risk of mouth or throat cancer if she regularly gives oral jobs on a man who is high on drugs or medication

You might like to ask on the reference desk or check our page on oral sex. Note: all wikipedia pages are covered by a medical disclaimer. --h2g2bob (talk) 03:09, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

how?

if we need the information about something in another language but is not provided then how?

There are versions of Wikipedia in many languages - see meta:List of Wikipedias. Or translate the Wikipedia page with http://translate.google.com or http://babelfish.altavista.com --h2g2bob (talk) 03:14, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

More fair use questions

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Led Zeppelin fan, but there are some problems with images related to this band. The cover of the first album is uploaded as fair use, non-free, with a rational for use as an album cover. Well, that's all good. But the image is used gratuitously on Ferdinand von Zeppelin. This image Image:Groove.JPG was uploaded with rationale that its a screen shot to illustrate an article on a DVD. But its not even used on the DVD article, rather on several other articles, including Royal Albert Hall. Isn't there a bot that takes care of some of this stuff? I don't want to violate WP:Don't be a dick and go take all these images down. I guess that I could just make up fair use rationale...—Gaff ^ταλκ 03:55, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank God I'm not the only person having these problems! I've been doing a lot with Fair Use recently — adding FU rationales, decreasing image resolution, and removing images altogether. The problem is that WP:DICK is an essay, but WP:FU is policy. I'd say that you should do what you can to follow policy, but be polite about it. I feel that fair use has become a huge problem in WP, because people are using it too liberally. If you run into any resistance, just remind them that the goal here is to create a free encyclopedia, and unfortunately that means that we need to limit the use of copyrighted material.

(And no, I don't think there's a bot that does this. I feel like this type of thing needs to be reviewed by a human...that is, until we can standardize the templates that are used in the Image: namespace...) tiZom_(2¢) 04:18, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

There's a bot which gets rid (or at least tags) orphaned fair use images. So remove them from all pages where FU doesn't apply, and it'll get picked up at some point. --h2g2bob (talk) 05:19, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Creating subcategories

How does one go about adding subcategories? I'm wanting to add a profession to the Category:Wikipedians by profession. The page says to feel free, but it doesn't explain how. Clicking to edit the page doesn't show the subcategories. LaraLove^T/_C 04:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

If you want to make Category:A a subcat of Category:B, you simply need to click on the edit tab of Category:A and add [[Category:B]]. Well, like that. Peacent 04:23, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Yep - categorise category pages like normal pages. --h2g2bob (talk) 05:21, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

John Denner

How can we get this story on the site..

Look in the Bio

www.JohnDennerRocks.com

• You can't. Sorry to disappoint you, but your music career does not yet fall within Wikipedia's content standards. The best way to be mentioned on this site is for someone else (such as a newspaper) to notice you. For further information, please read WP:MUSIC, WP:N, and WP:COI. Good luck with your tour. YechielMan 05:02, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Cannot sign in

When I attempt to sign in I am told my username/password is wrong. When I attempt to "email new password" it says that there is no email address recorded for "xtsubarublazin". This seems to have happened overnight, although I've been hesitating asking for help for a few weeks now. Any help would be appreciated.

Line breaks

Is it acceptable to use line breaks in poetry that is in articles? I think it looks better to use line breaks like this:

Line one of text
Line two of text
Line three of text
Line four of text

rather than putting a blank line in between lines like this:

Line one of text

Line two of text

Line three of text

Line four of text

The reason I ask is I was looking at this article, and the formatting looked weird to me.

I think that for poems with multiple stanzas, the first type would probably be preferable so as to make stanzas easier to identify, but I'm not aware that there is a standard as such. You might want to ask at the Poetry WikiProject about their guidelines. Thanks, Philipwhiuk 07:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion?

I don't understand why my article was proposed for deletion?

The article was proposed for deletion because it did not satisfy the WP:BIO and failed to establish notability. In order to be notable, the biography must have references to reliable, reputable, 3rd party sources not associated with the subjects themselves. A MySpace page is not enough unfortunatly. -- _Hdt83 ^Chat 06:45, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

It also appears that you are associated with the article in question: Nathan hughes. It is discouraged to create or edit article about yourself or related to you because you may have an conflict of interest which may cause problems in keeping a NPOV. -- _Hdt83 ^Chat 06:49, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

If you have evidence that the band itself maybe notable, it may be better to create this page and put some information about the band members on this page. A band page is probably slightly more notable than a single musician. However, it would still be the case that a MySpace page is insufficient as a source of notability. Thanks Philipwhiuk 07:19, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Bob Marley

BOB MARLEY HI I AM AN AVID FOLLOWER OF BOB MARLEY AND HIS MUSIC CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY ONLY 12 CHILDREN ARE LISTED IN HIS FAMILY YET THE PAPR STATES THERE ARE 13 CHILDREN THANKS JOHN MARTIN BRISTOL ENGLAND — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.33.88.39 (talk • contribs)

What do you refer to with "THE PAPR"? Bob Marley#Children says he has 13 children and lists 13. PrimeHunter 12:14, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I believe he is reffering to the Paper, article. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 20:51, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

?

how to find Identifying group names? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.84.181.214 (talk • contribs)

Could you be more specific? I don't know what you refer to. PrimeHunter 12:25, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Holland

HOLLAND IS IN WHICH COUNTRY — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.42.21.83 (talk • contribs)

Please sign your posts using four tildes (~~~~). SalaSkan 12:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I have added the IP number. See Holland. "Holland" can refer to the country also called "the Netherlands" or to a region of that country. See also Holland (disambiguation) for many less known places. PrimeHunter 12:25, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

cross referencing contributions

Is there anyway or any tool that will allow me to cross-reference the contributions of two editors? --Fredrick day 12:27, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

What exactly do you mean by "cross-reference"? Do you want to generate a list of pages the two editors have both edited? I don't see anything that looks promising in a quick glance at WP:TOOLS. However, if you are running Unix, Linux, or a Unix-like compatibility layer such as Cygwin, you might determine the pages common to two editors by using some command pipelines. You might also ask on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject edit counters. --Teratornis 15:19, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Inlining a Commons image in a WP article

How can I put File:SOA-Condylomata-acuminata-man.jpg on the Genital warts article? The instructions on Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page#Images work for images that are on WP, but apparently not for ones on Commons. -Pgan002 12:40, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

You can add an image on Commons to an article in the same way as adding an image uploaded here :) Peacent 12:59, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I thought so, but why is a link displayed above instead of the image? The source says [[Image:SOA-Condylomata-acuminata-man.jpg]]. PrimeHunter 15:14, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

The image is listed on MediaWiki:Bad image list. You will be unable to include it on any article (it will become a link). Ask for an exception for the genital warts page by making a reqest on the talk page, tagging it with {{editprotected}} to get an admin's attention. --h2g2bob (talk) 15:29, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Tagged image with {{badimage}}, which suggests raising the matter at admins' noticeboard --h2g2bob (talk) 15:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I've requested an admin look into it at the admins noticeboard. --h2g2bob (talk) 16:47, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, the images now show in the article. But I do not understand what the problem was and how it was solved. From the image history it seems that the badimage tag was added by H2g2bob today, and I guess that did not solve the problem. -Pgan002 00:11, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

See [8] and MediaWiki talk:Bad image list. PrimeHunter 00:22, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Delete my Account

How Can I Delete my Account?

You cannot. You may have your userpage deleted by adding {{userreq}} to the page. See also m:Right to vanish Peacent 12:55, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Italian Wikipedia

I have seen a photo in Italian Wikipedia that I would like to use in an article in English Wikipedia.

How do I do that ?

How do I create the link ?--Tovojolo 13:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think you can do it. Every Wikipedia has its own set of licenses for pictures and therefore you must upload it again here if you have to use it here. On the other hand if the italian picture is free (GFDL) you can upload it to Commons so that every wikipedia can use it. Arrivederci. Dr.K. 13:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Which photo is it? --h2g2bob (talk) 15:23, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

HOW DO YOU WRITE AN ARTICLE?

HOW DO YOU WRITE AN ARTICLE?

See Wikipedia:Your first article, but you need an account to create an article, if you dont have one create one or try Wikipedia:Articles for creation Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 16:17, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Also see Help:Starting a new page Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 16:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Try the tutorial too --h2g2bob (talk) 16:41, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Change the name of an account

Does anyone know how to change the name of an account?

Go to WP:CHU and follow the directions on that page. « ANIMUM » 16:34, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

how can i delete my username off of wikipedia?

Please see m:Right to vanish. The bottom line is you can (probably) change it, but your contributions will remain under some username. -- Rick Block (talk) 17:25, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Create a new page

Hello,

How do I create a page and then submit it for consideration? I have done what I can here and have heard nothing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bruce7777777

Cheers, Bruce charnley

You should try Wikipedia:Articles for creation. It's good that you provided sources, but because of the nature of the subject, you should try to demonstrate a one-to-one correspondence between your content and its references. Please see Wikipedia:Attribution and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. YechielMan 20:49, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Well first of all, that is on a Userpage, so you aren't going to recieve much feedback on it. Secondly to find out how to create a article see WP:FIRST, and Help:Starting a new page. Thirdly, to recieve feedback on a article submit it Wikipedia:Peer review. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 20:49, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Need a format (template?) for 'name' pages

References:

• Molly
• Nancy (disambiguation)
• Amber (disambiguation)
• Johan

Name pages are ripe for abuse and poor wording and formatting, and a guideline on this would greatly help. My suggestion is to follow what Molly (above) has....listing persons, places and things exclusively known by the single word, followed by a section of people, places and things that are notably known by that word. One of the biggest difficulties (as seen in Nancy above) is the temptation for people to add anyone famous whose first name is Nancy, and often this bleeds to people who aren't even notable enough to warrant their own page (resulting in non-linked or redlinked entries).

Can we come to a consensus on a guideline for this? Maybe a 'Name Group' to undertake continuing efforts in maintaining name pages? --Kickstart70-T-C 19:12, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

The appropriate place to start a discussion like this, is at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 20:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Adding/Finding map coordinates

How do I find and add the map coordinates for town articles? In this case Likely, British Columbia which needs a map and coordinates and Horsefly, British Columbia, (which I'm writing later today/tomorrow), which will also need this information.CindyBo 21:11, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

The code for coordinates of London, Ontario is {{Coor title d|42.98714|N|81.246268|W}} at the top of the article. Replace the numbers with whatever applies to your city. YechielMan 21:35, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

But I don't know how to find the coordinates. I looked for a few minutes. YechielMan 21:40, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

From Google Earth: You can use {{Coor dms|52|19|52.82|N|121|24|27.00|W}}. Good luck with your article. tiZom_(2¢) 23:25, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Permanent link

What is a permanent link (as per the toolbox on the left)? Hallpriest9 (Talk | Archive) 23:39, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

See Help:History#Linking to a specific version of a page. --Teratornis 00:09, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

To elaborate, it's the same as the link to the current revision of a page which appears at the top of the page history. As the page continues to change, the "permanent" link will "always" retrieve the revision that was current when you clicked on "Permanent link." I put quotes around the words "permanent" and "always" because the so-called "permanent" link will stop working if the page gets deleted. --Teratornis 00:18, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bruce7777777

I created the above page. I've heard nothing. How do I get it on Wikipedia?

Bruce Charnley

Images upload only for user space

What is the policy regarding images like this Image:0001fiat.jpg? The user has a ton of them on his userpage. —Gaff ^ταλκ 01:51, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

To tell you the truth, those look possibly unfree (editing a non-free image does not mean that you can relicense it). Of course, spamming the user's talk page with image notices is not going to help anything; a patient explanation of the image policy and a detailed inquiry about the image might help. (See User talk:Raberr#Las Palmas de Gran Canaria for a discussion on what makes an image free.) Gracenotes^T § 02:03, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Assuming that the images are free, the following quote applies:

Images used on userpages should generally not be nominated on this basis alone unless the user is violating the Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not policy by using Wikipedia to host excessive amounts unencyclopedic material (most commonly private photos).

From WP:IFD#UE. Intentions are important here, and assuming good faith could be useful. Gracenotes^T § 02:06, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

how do you make an new article?