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Please put new messages at the end of this page. Anthony Appleyard 08:33, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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How to AfD

  • On page for deletion:-

{{subst:afd1}}
nominated for deletion: see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PageName]]

  • On AfD vote page:-

{{subst:afd2 | pg=PageName | cat=Category | text=Reason the page should be deleted}} ~~~~
Creating deletion discussion page for [[PageName]] because ...

{{subst:afd3 | pg=PageName}}
(or) {{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PageName}}
Adding [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PageName]]

On closing, {{subst:afd top}} & {{subst:afd bottom}}, and after the top template, put Delete or Keep and ~~~~ .

You recently deleted my posting about producers Koishii & Hush. I entered the first submission wrong and was told by Golbez that "We really require third-party links about a band, otherwise we can let any band with a myspace account make an article, and with the speed that myspace band articles are created, we really need to be swift with removing them. If there are third-party links available, please recreate the article" So I recreated it with 3rd party links and now you delete it as spam!? Please undo this decision. Thanks Tomveil2000 (talk) 14:22, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


A deletion

To whom it may concern, the deleting fairy yes?

I was so hurt when I discovered that you had removed my contribution of Jay-Alaric (Sexy) Howell. I had put a , what may be suprising to you, significant amount of time and energy in researching, boardering on stalking just so that I could allow the world to look up this amazing artist. Which you deleted. I'm kind of shocked by this and would appreciate hearing your reasons as to why you would choose to delete such an up and coming artist from the internet?

Have a lovely day,
Concerned citizen of the internets. 11:20, 19 November 2007 User:Phantasmata

Improper use of rollback

Looking for Wikipedians for a User Study

Hello. I am a graduate student in the Department of Computer Science and Engineering at the University of Minnesota. We are conducting research on ways to engage content experts on Wikipedia. Previously, Wikipedia started the Adopt-a-User program to allow new users to get to know seasoned Wikipedia editors. We are interested in learning more about how this type of relationship works. Based on your editing record on Wikipedia, we thought you might be interested in participating. If chosen to participate, you will be compensated for your time. We estimate that most participants will spend an hour (over two weeks on your own time and from your own computer) on the study. To learn more or to sign up contact KATPA at CS dot UMN dot EDU or User:KatherinePanciera/WPMentoring. Thanks. KatherinePanciera (talk) 02:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Brand new to Wikipedia and asking for your comments.

Thanks --> Thank

[1] --Blechnic (talk) 13:55, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Aa_lightning_for_stub.gif listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Aa_lightning_for_stub.gif, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Kelly hi! 02:27, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Franjo Tudjman

  • I see that you have closed discussion on Requested Move for Franjo Tudjman with result Do not move.

May I ask you what were the arguments for that? I am asking you this because there was discussion about moving Novak Djokovic article. Discussion was absolutely the same (at one side Wikipedia guidelines, at other side correct spelling, vast majority of Wikipedia articles and no-point-in-using-ASCII arguments). But, Novak's page was moved. Regards, --Irić Igor -- Ирић Игор -- K♥S (talk) 18:51, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Requested Moves

  • An IP, 199.125.109.102, closed a request a day after it was listed on RM, declaring it to be speedy closed (There was annother of his I mistakingly unclosed too, due to my error, it was in the backlog section). I reverted this as RM guidelines themselves say 5 days is normal. Now the chap is whining on my talk page, was what I did incorrect? Narson (talk) 10:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Please: What is the name of the affected page, and the name that it was wanted to be moved it to? When did you list it? When did he delete it? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Oh, I didn't list it. I just noticed it got closed after a day and reverted the closure. It was Dot Com Bubble I think (Someone proposed a move to Dot Com Boom). Can't say I support the move but a day seems a bit short a time to leave a RM up for, wanted to make sure that I was correct in reverting the closure or whether a speedy close was right in that case. Narson (talk) 13:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  • I did a speedy close because moving Dot-com bubble was frivolous and had no chance of gaining any support. There was no need to waste time over it. There was also a reference to an earlier discussion that I took into consideration. 199.125.109.102 (talk) 15:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  • The entry "*Dot-com bubble → Dot-com boom —(Discuss)— The term bubble and boom are very different, Boom refers to rising prices and profits, while bubble refers to a collapse of prices. therefore this article refers to the boom of the late 1990's. Dwilso 23:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)" is present and correct, in the 3 April 2008 section of Wikipedia:Requested moves. It points to Talk:Dot-com bubble, where there is now some discussion tending towards "do not move", so it seems that User:Narson was correct in restoring the entry in Wikipedia:Requested moves. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  • There has always been discussion tending toward "do not move". You will notice that I made no attempt to assert myself, but I see no valid reason for restoring the entry in RM, other than "gosh that disappeared quickly". I see that someone else agrees with me (PeterSymonds), and has also closed it early, although at this point we are getting closer to the 5 days. 199.125.109.102 (talk) 16:53, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Username?

moved from user talk 199.125.109.102

I have zero interest in registering a username. 199.125.109.102 (talk) 17:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Hatlink of page Shahadah

Sakura

English M.E.T.A.S.

  • Hi Anthony, I know you're just doing your job, but I'm familiar with Wikipedia, and I think you made a mistake. I work for a small English school in Barcelona Spain at the moment, English M.E.T.A.S. It's a legitimate, tax-paying school, doing things legitimately different than the larger ones. There are plenty of English schools on Wiki. I know, becuase I was certified at one of them, and I'll be working for them this coming September in Vietnam (International House). The page wasn't spam. I'm not getting paid for this. I'm just adding to wiki. So I'm going to go ahead and re-create my page, hopefully with your support. Cheers. --J.Dayton (talk) 10:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
  • It still looks like an ordinary non-notable small business to me. Wikipedia is not a business directory. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:53, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Well I just started writing it! And why are you being so rude? Jesus.--J.Dayton (talk) 14:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Sorry. But see Wikipedia:Notability. I deleted it because another user had speedy-delete-tagged it as "This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion as an article about company, corporation, organization, or group that does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject.". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the history merge

Thank you for merging Portmanteau and Portmanteau word. - TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 11:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

categories

Thanks for the tip!

Bathrobe (talk) 02:31, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Question about history merges

Hi Anthony,

So I was just looking through WP:SPLICE and I noticed that you appear to be the master of the history merges. I'm in my third week or so of being an admin, and a big chunk of my work so far has involved closing AfD discussions. Although I avoided them at first, I've also started to close some discussions as merge--suffice to say, I have some questions that I'm hoping you could answer.

Now, my understanding based on what I've read is that, when performing these merges, preserving the history of the merged content to adhere to the GFDL is of paramount importance, and so in the handful of merges I've done I've gone ahead and merged the history of the two articles together. But from reading through your comments on WP:SPLICE, it seems that merging the histories of two pages edited simultaneously is a very Bad Thing, and so I was hoping you could provide some clarification. When closing AfDs as "merge", is it better to delete and redirect the original page before manually insert the text, redirect the page without deleting it and merge the text noting the source in the edit summary (thereby leaving regular editors technically able to revert it), or am I okay with what I've been doing?

And just as a note, I've only merged something like three or four articles, all the merges have been in the last few days, and the low number of revisions in the source items merged means that I could undo any damage with a minimum amount of fuss. In other words, it should be pretty easy to un-muck anything that I may have mucked up :) Thanks in advance for your help! --jonny-mt 05:12, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

  • If, e.g. someone started a page X, and someone else started a page Y, both about the same subject, and both are edited various times, and after a while they need to be merged, with X as the article and Y as a redirect to X, DO NOT merge their histories (e.g. by "delete X, move Y to X, undelete X"). That would result in X's old edits and Y's old edits being mixed regardless in one date order. During the text merge, merely do this, to note the merge:
    • Leave in X an edit comment "merged from Y".
    • When you change Y into a redirect to X, give that edit the edit comment "merged to X".
      • In both cases, perhaps plus a link in the edit comment to any discussion about the merge.
    • History merging is only to rejoin a page's history after a cut-and-paste move. In page Y, click the "watch" tab to put page Y on your watch list. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
All right, so the history merging is indeed a bad thing; I'll cut it out and try to go back and undo any damage I've done. But what about when the result of an XfD discussion is to merge the content? I know that when the result is "redirect" it actually means "delete and redirect"--is this the same for merges, or would doing so violate the GFDL? --jonny-mt 05:34, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Use cut-and-paste to add (not overwrite) the contents of page Y into page X. Sort out and tidy the result by editing page X. Change Y into a redirect to X. Do not histmerge. Note in X's and Y's edit comments what happpened. With a text merge, this dilemma happens. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good, although I have one final question. When an AfD discussion results in a consensus of merge, should I delete Page Y after adding its contents into Page X? Although not deleting it would mean that the history remains visible and thus the GFDL requirements could be easily fulfilled through comments in the edit summaries as you mentioned, it would also mean that a user unhappy with the merge would be able (technically-speaking) to revert my changing of Page Y into a redirect and continue working on the old version of the article against consensus. Is deleting Page Y before creating a new redirect with a summary of "Content was merged to Page X per consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Foo" sufficient to link the two together, or do the histories of both need to be visible to satisfy the licensing requirements? --jonny-mt 06:21, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
  • If users are likely to want to type the name of Y when looking for information, then page Y better stay, as a redirect to page X. In page Y, click the "watch" tab to put page Y on your watch list. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:51, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
All right, so the history should be left visible. Sorry for all the questions, but thanks for the clarification! --jonny-mt 02:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Haribo

I think my memory is going bad and I'm getting it confused with another talk page. After thinking about it further, never-mind completely, everything is as is should be. :) ~~ DaRkAgE7 (talk) 06:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Edwin Astley rename

Hello - many thanks for renaming the Ted Astley article. It's greatly appreciated Howie ☎ 19:08, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Susan Mayer

An article that you have been involved in editing, Susan Mayer, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susan Mayer. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Ultra! 22:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

GFDL-en

  • I object to the "uncontroversial" move of GFDL-with-disclaimers to GFDL-en. The former name has the virtue of being explanatory. The latter name is vague and arguably misleading (it's not simply EN's version of the GFDL). The fact that Commons, a multi-lingual environment, has historically chosen to use a poorly descriptive name is not a good enough reason for this move. Also, I'm not at all sure what the problem would be since Commons already has a redirect at GFDL-with-disclaimers.
    In the spirit of WP:BRD, I would ask that you revert those moves and allow for a discussion of the issue. Dragons flight (talk) 00:30, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • This affects Template:GFDL-with-disclaimers and Template:GFDL-self-with-disclaimers‎. Sorry. I was obeying this edit by User:White Cat of Wikipedia:Requested moves#Uncontroversial proposals. I have left notes in User talk:White Cat#Move of two templates and User talk:Mark#Moves of two templates.
    Moves:
    Around 04:29, 18 April 2008 User:Mark moved them back to the ---with-disclaimers names.
    Around 04:50, 18 April 2008 User:Mark moved them back to the --en names.
    I have again moved them back to the ---with-disclaimers names.
    Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • I had a long talk with White Cat on IRC after blocking his bot and moving the templates back, in which he explained the rationale for moving them to this title (when free images are copied to Commons, the templates are typically kept, but the "GFDL-with-disclaimers" title is unfortunately used on various projects to mean different things, because they all have their own different sets of dislcaimers. So different titles need to be used for the different projects otherwise licensing problems develop on Commons. Since that seems to be a legitimate reason for moving the templates, I undid my moves and unblocked the bot. I also asked White Cat to provide his explanation of the moves on the talk pages of the two templates. - Mark 05:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • I have posted a detailed rationale on the template talk page. If it is all the same for all parties, lets continue the discussion there. -- Cat chi? 05:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

So what is the plan? -- Cat chi? 07:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I left a response at Template talk:GFDL-with-disclaimers. I understand wanting to help Commons, but we shouldn't have to harm the intelligibility of enwiki to do that, and this move makes it far less clear what the purpose of the template is. So I am still opposed to it. However, perhaps we can reach a compromise of some sort, like "GFDL-en-with-disclaimers", both here and at Commons. Dragons flight (talk) 07:29, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

speedy deletion

Thanks 4 deleting it. Man, you guys are fast. Nothing444 15:41, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Wood Bros. Racing

Corinthians F.C.

Thanks

... for the Augrabies Falls page move. Zaian (talk) 11:49, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Viluppuram (town)

Dear Anthony,

Thank you very much for moving page Viluppuram (city) . --Logic riches (talk) 14:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Review Request

  • Hi Anthony Appleyard. I noticed you have made a lot of edits to the helmet article. I have recently posted a new article entitled Association football headgear, which is a type of headgear/helmet worn in soccer. If you had the time and could look over my article, any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! Swanyk (talk) 01:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
  • I have tidied Association football headgear a bit. A photograph of an association football headgear would be useful, or a direct link to an external photograph image. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Thank you very much for your contributions to my article, I appreciate your input. I have been trying to decide how to add a photograph for awhile now, and did not know the best way of going about doing it since each brand has a different design, etc. I have added direct links to the two specific brands I talk about, DonJoy and Full90. Is this similar to what you meant in your suggestion? Thanks for the help! Swanyk (talk) 00:41, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Atomic hydrogen nonsense

Thanks for uploading Image:Aa 09a nasasuit flagfound.jpg. You've indicated that the image is being used under a claim of fair use, but you have not provided an adequate explanation for why it meets Wikipedia's requirements for such images. In particular, for each page the image is used on, the image must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Can you please check

  • That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's escription page for each article the image is used in.
  • That every article it is used on is linked to from its description page.

The following images also have this problem:

This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --21:28, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Other notable places in or near Shahada, Maharashtra

SSP to ADSP

Thanks for the move. --217.184.142.6 (talk) 21:23, 25 April 2008 (UTC) [2]

Category:Discrete chips board

Spud gun--bad move

I have moved this discussion to Talk:Spud gun#Spud guns which are not compressed-air-powered. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

speedy or redirect

  • Lithostragigraphy. "Speedy deletion|the article has a bad name, correct name is Lithostratigraphy" I do not think that "implausible" -- the correct thing to do, per WP:CSD, is to change to a redirect. If one person makes the mistake, so will another. Please restore and change accordingly. Or send to RfD, of course. DGG (talk) 21:10, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
  • There are infinity possibilities for unlikely once-off typos of long names and words. It would certainly fail AfD, and I would get the flak for wasting the AfD system's time. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:36, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
right, and the very few of the infinite ones that get made get kept. it takes more resources to remove them than keep them, and it does no harm whatsoever. .DGG (talk) 04:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for your help in the moving issue, I simply wanted to make sure I did things correctly. Thank you for pointing out the error, and the solution. Supertheman (talk) 21:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Line

Hi Anthony,

Thanks for moving Line (disambiguation) back to Line. I wasn't so much concerned that the mathematical concept be recognized as primary, but rather that Line not be a redirect.

Neelix (talk) 13:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Star Wars: The Clone Wars


Franjo Tuđman -renaming

Hi

It seems that discussion is gone. No any more interested people neither consensus or new arguments. I think that it should be closed now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Franjo_Tu%C4%91man&action=history --Anto (talk) 17:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Cour d'honneur

Thank you for taking care of this. --Wetman (talk) 19:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

He keeps refusing my moves

SplendidCRM

Critique

Sky Eats Airplane

  • Is there any way for me to work on an article over a few days without it getting deleted immediately?

i understand that the article Sky Eats Airplane has been deleted in the past for being non-notable, but seeing as they are scheduled to play in a major music festival this sumer (Warped Tour) i beleive they are Notable, and there is enough information on the band across the internet to support a brief biography of the band.

  • (just out of curiosity, how can an album from a non-notable musical group appear on wikipedia? if the album is notable on its own, doesn't that in itself make the group notable?)
    thanks for your contributions to wikipedia
    Tingrin87 (talk) 03:06, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  • When you edit the information into page Warped Tour, instead of trying to again create a page Sky Eats Airplane, include some direct external links to websites neutrally describing them. Page Sky Eats Airplane has been deleted 9 times already; it would take something very notable to let it survive if created for a 10th time. Not everything related to a notable topic is notable. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  • i understand this fully, i just find it hard to believe that one of their albums (i think it was their debut) is well-written and considered notable, yet the band itself isn't Tingrin87 (talk) 05:44, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Personal attacks from Slovenia

Hi

We have a problem here.

Anonymous user from Slovenia is insulting Croatia making personal attack on Croatian users and pushing his POV .

IP addresses 24.86.110.10 24.86.127.209

Moreover , he does the same thing on other articles:see here contributions: here What coud we do about it?

--Anto (talk) 19:52, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Merging the articles

  • Hi again Anthony!
    Could you merge those articles Fascist Italianization and Italianization because ther is not reason for being splitted.
    We have explained on the talk pages.
    Fascist Italianization can be a separate article with more detail as
    Main article: main article
    but certainly has to be connected.
    Best regards!
    --Anto (talk) 19:58, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  • These two pages were edited in parallel, so histmerge is impossible. The discussions about the merge look far from settled. As regards a text merge, Italianization is about Italianization in general, and Fascist Italianization is about particular events that happened during a particular time period. I am tempted them to leave them alone. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


OK, the pages were edited in mean time. But they should be connected. Look at this category here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cultural_assimilation

There are no such division like Germanization and Nazi Germanization , Croatization and Ustaša Croatization. So this division for italianization simply makes no sense. Fascist italianization was comitted by Italians , not by Romulans or Klingons. And it was done for "Italian resons".

And one more thing. Forced italianization did not start with Mussolini!! It dates much earlier.

--Anto (talk) 09:15, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanx

Thanks for the "perilous" Move. Much appreciated! --Ludvikus (talk) 16:53, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 17:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of CTHULHU FHTAGN

  • I must have made a mistake when I copied and pasted the title into Google, because I believe I was incorrect in CSD tagging the page as patent nonsense. (The fact that the title looks like one may have mashed the keyboard with the palm of one's hand didn't exactly help matters.) Just thought it was courteous to inform you of this, should the article's creator approach you incivilly. Regards, WilliamH (talk) 19:53, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • I know about the place of the alien language sentence "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" in Lovecraft's fiction. The deleted edits of page Cthulhu fhtagn were nonsense or spam promoting a religion, and nothing that belongs on Wikipedia. The pages Cthulhu#The Call of Cthulhu and The Call of Cthulhu explain the subject satisfactorily. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Another disruptive page move

See also User talk:Gnevin#National sport.
(after ec) You need to look up WP:CON, or even simply read the dicdef of consensus. "No one replied" means no response, it is not even remotely consensus. KillerChihuahua?!? 22:32, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
You may be a admin but your also wrong , you moved a page where i had formed consensus's thus i am right and so am like your self ignoreing all rules since you did anyway and WP:3RR doesn't apply Gnevin (talk)
As per WP:RM There is no obligation to list such move requests here; discussions of page moves can always be carried out at the article's talk page without adding an entry. This page may be seen as a place to advertise move debates that would benefit from wider community input, or for users to request assistance from administrators in moving pages. this is my last comment on this issue too yourself Gnevin (talk) 16:27, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Antiaris toxicaria

Thanks for the help. --Blechnic (talk) 22:58, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

AIDS sub-pages, one more move

Head Wrightson

Many thanks for sorting out the history merge to complete the move of Head Wrightsons to Head Wrightson. I agree that the timeline format is clearer: I only sought to change the article to essay format as my understanding is that wikipedia is not supposed to be a series of lists: my apologies if you did not like the revised format Dormskirk (talk) 22:37, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Pettingill family deletion

Hi, I noticed that you deleted the article Pettingill family under CSD G10 - "Pages that serve no purpose but to disparage their subject or some other entity ... sometimes called "attack pages".". Now, as you deleted it, I can't check the last state of the page to see if it was purely an "attack page" or not, however, if the Pettingill family is a notable crime family, reporting on the truth in a neutral tone, fully cited, may appear negative simply because the truth is they were unpleasant criminals. Many other crime families, for instance (just as an example) the Gambino crime family have pages on here that accurately and neutrally portray their activities, which in themselves are unpleasant - "Its illicit activities include labor racketeering, gambling, loansharking, extortion, murder for hire, solid and toxic waste dumping violations, construction, building and cement violations, fraud and wire fraud, hijacking, pier thefts and fencing." - that is simply the truth of the matter. I do believe that the Pettingill family are notable, and perhaps it would have been more appropriate to request Cleanup of the page rather than deleting it outright. This is just my opinion on the matter anyway, I'd love to hear what you think. Xmoogle (talk) 16:24, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Ghetto benches

Tudjman again

  • Doubtless I am worn down by conflict; but closes are supposed to pay attention to the quality of the arguments, not just their volume. Could you specify which of the opposition to this move does not fall under:
  • Likely reasons why "Tudjman" is more familiar are:
    • Most printers outside Croatia are likely to use "dj" because of difficulty producing "đ". Same as, in Icelandic names, "þ" and "ð" are sometimes rendered as "th" and dh".
    • Racism does not come into it.
    • Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Fisherman

I don't understand you. Category:Fishing industry is a subset of Category:Fishing. The term Fisherman is not just applied to commercial fishermen, it is also applied to recreational fishermen. This is all covered by the single category Category:Fishing. There is no need for Category:Fishing industry, which is redundant. --Geronimo20 (talk) 10:15, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Institute for Business Value

Anthony, you just deleted a page that i was working on for the IBM Institute for Business Value as blatant advertising. In creating it we tried to be factual, using pages such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scripps_Research_Institute as an example. Are you saing that because it hs IBM on the front, there cannot be an entry because by definition, any mention of a company name is advertising? Ibvposter (talk) 15:07, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Hindu Temple in St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada

Hi Mr. Appleyard,

You have recommended removal of the entry on the Hindu Temple (St. John's) stating that it is a blatant advertisement, and have also retitled it Mount Pearl Hindu Temple.

The original article was posted by me just as information to those who visit the city and look for a Hindu worship place. In November 2007, the page was tagged with an advise to include citations to establish validity of the entry. Subsequently, in early January 2008, I edited the entry to add citations. There is no intent to advertise here as this is the only Hindu temple in 1000 kilometer radius.

By the way, the revised title is not appropriate as the temple has been relocated from Mount Pearl to St. John's (two adjacent cities) in 1995. St. John's Hindu Temple would be more appropriate.

If you let me know which part of the entry appears to be an advertisement, that part could be properly edited. Thank you for your help.

Dr. R. Venkatesan Former President of the St. John's Hindu Temple —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sobhanavenkatesan (talk • contribs) 00:43, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your help

Mr. Appleyard,

Many thanks to your quick and able help to improve the entry for St. John's Hindu Temple. As suggested by you, we will include a good photograph. Thanks again.

Venkatesan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sobhanavenkatesan (talk • contribs) 10:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Ships of Canadian Pacific Steamships

My watchlist shows that you helped solve the problem I seem to have encountered in changing the disambiguation dates which distinguish Canadian Pacific Steamships ocean liners named Empress of Britain .... Thank you. --Tenmei (talk) 02:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

spud gun

Ok thanks. Interested to hear what the major contributors have to say. Wonder why User:Mortus Est hasn't weighed in... Rracecarr (talk) 13:42, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

FYI : ReUser_talk:Gnevin#National_sport

Wikipedia_talk:Consensus#WP:CON Gnevin (talk) 14:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Dean Richards

A few days ago I asked you to revert the copy and paste move between Dean Richards and Dean Richards (rugby player). After that, User:Londo06 has done it again twice, once after I told him not to do it again. Can you look at it and leave him a message about it? Thanks! Chanheigeorge (talk) 18:59, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

So for only two people with the same name we disambiguate at the expense of an England international. I could totally understand if there were three or more, but...Londo06 08:46, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Move assist?

Erm, explain please.

  • Please see this section that you restored. [4]. I removed it, and included a small comment in the "Torture" plot element. I'm doing what I can to improve WP:24. Actually, just a secret..I co-ordinate it :) Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 05:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
    Look at this,
    Torture: Jack and others employ the use of torture or threats of torture in nearly every situation in order to extract information. In most cases, the torture is justified as serving the greater good, although there is sometimes a conflict of interest in which torture is also motivated by revenge. CTU has also employed the use of hyoscine-penothal, a fictional pain-inducing drug, in time-sensitive interrogation sessions[25]. This has been used on both agents and antagonists.
    • Is the rest really necessary, from that huge chunk of info? Was it really necessary to be in the article as such a large section? I think not, therefore, I condensed the information, and removed the large, overdetailed explanation. I want to get that to GA one day, (already done for Martha Logan, 100 edits). Please understand where I'm coming from here. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 05:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
  • See Talk:24 (TV series)#Hyoscine-pentothal. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Replied there. Are you satisfied with the version? Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 20:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of March Information Systems

Hi.

Your speedy deletion of March Information Systems has left me somewhat at a disadvantage, as this article has been on WP for several years and I no longer have a good memory of its content. However I would have said that the company should not have any problems meeting the secondary source based notability requirements laid down in WP:CORP. For example the article [5].

Whether that was actually cited in the article, I have no way of knowing. But if you are prepared to reinstate the article, I will certainly add that cite. If you still feel an article is not merited, then we can go through WP:AFD. -- Chris j wood (talk) 10:24, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Deleted Page humanbeings

  • Why did you delete my page that I have created? I created a perfectly reasonable page I even explained what the meaning was and the reason that it was created. So why did you delete it? It took me ages to create that webpage and you nicely deleted the page for me thanks alot. (Not) Madman2008 (talk) 18:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
  • The page was Human beings scribblewiki, which I deleted at 18:18, 13 May 2008 "A7 (web): Web content; doesn't indicate importance/significance". Its page history is:
    • 18:15, 13 May 2008 . . Delicious carbuncle (896 bytes) (Requesting speedy deletion (CSD A7).)
    • 18:12, 13 May 2008 . . Madman2008 (885 bytes) (Humanbeings.scribblewiki the only wiki where you can say what you want when you what about what ever you want to say it about.)
    • 17:48, 13 May 2008 . . Booglamay (285 bytes) (Requesting speedy deletion (CSD G2). (TW))
    • 17:46, 13 May 2008 . . Madman2008 (273 bytes) (My Page)
  • Afd It then Madman2008 (talk) 21:24, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
  • It is spam. It has no hope of surviving an AfD. See User talk:Madman2008#Your page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

The Barnstar of Diligence
For your Herculean work at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Affirmative

Hi Anthony,

I would like your input on Talk:Affirmative. Thanks so much for all your help over the past while in facilitating my requests to move pages to more appropriate titles.

Neelix (talk) 12:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Helmet

Regarding this, I didn't reduce the size of the image gallery but the editor who did is likely referring to the box at the bottom of the page:

Wikimedia Commons has media related to Helmets.

→Wordbuilder (talk) 15:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Labour India

  • Hi Anthony Appleyard, I noticed that you have moved Labour India Publications to Labour India. Don't you think that Labour India Publications Ltd. is the appropriate title as it is per the full name of the company and looks ok. I think it is always fine if we use the full name of the company. --Avinesh Jose  T  05:30, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
  • This move was per a request in [6]: "Labour India Publications → Labour India — projected and popular name, the firm's website also sports this name — Uzhuthiran (talk) 13:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)".
    Note that pages Labour India and Labour india have been deleted 5 times for advertizing:
    01:17, 23 October 2007 Espresso Addict (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Labour India" ‎ (Deleted perWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Labour india)
    11:58, 12 October 2007 Number 57 (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Labour India" ‎ (CSD G11: Blatant advertising)
    06:00, 12 October 2007 Pascal.Tesson (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Labour india" ‎ (It is blatant advertising for a company, product, group, service or person;that would equire a substantial rewrite in order to become an encyclopedia article. (CSD G11))
    09:13, 12 October 2007 Lectonar (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Labour India" ‎ (G11)
    14:10, 11 October 2007 Lectonar (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Labour India" ‎ (G11)
    Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:42, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Okay, I knew it was deleted in many occasions. That was due to lack of references and written in a poor ad style. However, it is ok in its present status (later contested drv as completely re-writeen). Additionally, the requested move doesn’t give any valuable reason as the company’s official name is Labour India Publications Ltd. But I also agree that it is well known as “Labour India”. My concern is about don’t you think that to give the full name of the company i.e Labour India Publications Ltd?. --Avinesh Jose  T  06:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Please also note that user:avineshjose is bent on removing templates from the two related articles full of incoherent sentences. Uzhuthiran (talk) 05:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU has a new format

Due to popular demand, HAU has a new look. Since the changes are so dramatic, I may have made some mistakes when translating the data. Please take a look at WP:HAU/EU and make sure your checkmarks are in the right place and feel free to add or remove some. There is a new feature, SoxBot V, a recently approved bot, automatically updates your online/offline status based on the length of time since your last edit. To allow SoxBot V to do this, you'll need to copy [[Category:Wikipedians who use StatusBot]] to your userpage. Obviously you are not required to add this to your userpage, however, without this, your status will always be "offline" at HAU. Thanks. Useight (talk) 17:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Auschwitz rubble

It'd be great if you can cite it. Cheers. WilliamH (talk) 18:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Alison#User: Yellow Bentines!

Yeh and they are starting to get big. Its people like you who prevent these bands for getting heard. And not just that they are mentioned in the Connect Festival so why cant they get a page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by YB-steph (talk • contribs) 11:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Please dont make me laugh yeh they are unsigned but its strange isnt it they dont want a record deal because they would rather work independly. They had an offer which they turned down because they wanted to be indepent. So please can you just leave the page allow as it isnt to harm to anyone!

OH and sorry i forgot

(YB-steph (talk) 11:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC))

James Taylor move

Speedy Deletion of Jakadocius

Alex Rodríguez

  • There is a slight complication with this move. The original page was at Alex Rodriguez, and was moved without discussion. After the move the page was edited to change "Rodriguez" to "Rodríguez".[7] I do not think that any of this is correct -- see baseball-reference.com, ESPN, and his official site at MLB.com (the flash animation at the top even shows his signature with an Anglicised 'i'). But now that you moved the page to the suggested title, the original page has been edited to redirect again. Could you restore it to the original location? Aspie rational (talk) 19:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
  • The request to move from Alex Rodriguez to Alex Rodríguez is at this link:
"*Álex Rodríguez → Alex Rodríguez —(Discuss)— There is no accent above the 'A'. --Ksy92003 (talk) 01:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
**No need for admin assistance. Current article location was a recent, undiscussed move and should be reverted. Aspie rational (talk) 11:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)"


Fair use rationale for Image:Aa asbo metronews typo.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Aa asbo metronews typo.jpg. You've indicated that the image meets Wikipedia's criteria for non-free content, but there is no explanation of why it meets those criteria. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. If you have any questions, please post them at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions.

Thank you for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 12:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


Assistance please?

Hello Anthony Appleyard,

I noticed that you deleted Tom Falcone after I nominated that article for speedy deletion. I have nominated the article about the band itself "Cute Is What We Aim For" for the same reason, but it appears that either a member or friend of the band has removed my nomination for speedy deletion there. I reverted it, but could you look at it yourself? I nominated it for the same reason. This band has made no impact whatsoever on music, or the music industry. I am currently working on an addition to the Buffalo, New York article that will name specific artists of some note from Buffalo, and any mention of this particular band belongs anywhere, it would belong there, and that's iffy in itself.

Thanks for your time, Osirisrising (talk) 15:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Erm...

CIWWAF

The tag clearly states: If this page does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion, or you intend to fix it, please remove this notice. It certainly does not meet the criteria. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 16:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

IndyCar move

Thank You

I just wanted to thank you for taking care of my requested page move. I know this can be a thankless task and I thought you might like a little recognition for you work. Coaster1983 (talk) 22:44, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Renewable energy commercialisation in Australia

It's late and I will look at the article again tomorrow... Johnfos (talk) 10:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Take your time... I'm just saying that you can't create a subarticle of RE in Australia before you create the main RE in country article. And commercialization is far too narrow a focus for a subarticle of most in country articles. 199.125.109.134 (talk) 16:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks... I will take my time... there is no rush...

You will gather from what I've said above that I am not totally against the move. It's just that it would be good if it could proceed in an orderly way, following discussion on the Talk page, bringing in extra content as needed, while maintaining article quality. Anyway, I will write more about this on the article Talk page in a few days.

In the meantime, if you could see your way clear to "building some bridges" with Mrshaba, that would be a good thing... Johnfos (talk) 20:33, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Disruption by IP user 199.125.109.XXX

Hello Anthony

Johnfos referred me here and I can see why. IP user 199.125.109.XXX has been disrupting a number of pages over the last year: Hydrogen, electric car, solar energy, wind power, nuclear power, template talk pages etc. General areas of disruption include incivility, POV, ignoring RFCs, multiple reverts, and consistently poorly sourced and factually incorrect edits. In the words of one editor, "My experience was that this person used a number of IPs to edit the domain of articles in a manner that... well I don't know if there was ever any content creation." It is my understanding that long term disruption can constitute vandalism. Yesterday I tracked some of the edits made by the IP that are packaged together here. What can be done? Mrshaba (talk) 15:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

The IPA is in New Hampshire. The address looks like it belongs to a community center or small school located in a park. It's not a residence.
There are many such pages. Mrshaba (talk) 15:19, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Would both of you just chill out? What on earth would you want the physical location for? Were you planning on bringing over tea and crumpets? If so, I will pass, thank you very much. I do not "disrupt". I make valid improvements. If that is what you call a disruption, we need a lot more of them. 199.125.109.134 (talk) 00:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Anthony. The troubles have continued with this IP user. Do you think anything can be done? Mrshaba (talk) 23:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Morbid Axe:

PALAEOS

WP:HAU

Sorry to bother you about this again, but you have yet to update your information at Highly Active Users. If you do not update your entry, it will be removed within 48 hours. Thanks. Useight (talk) 16:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Reston Zoo

Unfair deletion

Thanks

Thanks for keeping my link up to date. I find that page useful for keeping an eye on articles via the "related changes" feature. Mjroots (talk) 05:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

from April8

Thanks very much for moving redirect page "7 laws of noah" to "7 Laws of Noah" today. I'm a new Wikipedia editor, so couldn't yet try to move it myself (haven't yet made 10 edits). I know this is silly perfectionism, but I was wondering why typing in search for "7 laws of noah" still redirects one to the main page "Seven Laws of Noah" from old redirect page "7 laws of noah", rather than new, moved redirect page "7 Laws of Noah" (the old moved page is still there, in use). I don't want to take up any of your valuable time, but if you are interested in replying to me at April8, I would appreciate it (I also need to discover my way round my talk page etc. at April8!). Thanks.April8 (talk) 20:57, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I see the fault with Natalia's page now. I did not clarify, that the presskits were for TMZ and other such sites. Initially I came here for honest help in understanding the policy, however since you have sicked your friends on me I see that you have no interest in helping a new member. Sorry to have wasted your time. Also the item was deleted due to copyright, not advertising --FlashbackMedia (talk) 22:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Rebreather

For what it's worth, I think the very long list of commercial suppliers at rebreather is clearly a violation of WP:NOTLINK and WP:EL. It's not a big deal to me, and I'm not going to revert, but I thought I'd just let you know that it wasn't a thoughtless deletion. Deli nk (talk) 23:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for helping with the Pina Colada move

Normally I would have done something like that myself, but I see from all your edits, it really wasn't that easy. I didn't know/think of the trick of creating a temporary holding page (version 2) to hold the page while things are moved around. Very clever. Of course, not being an admin, I'd still need someone to speedy delete the temporary page afterwards. Thanks. It was great seeing how you did all that. I appreciate the help. --Willscrlt (Talk) 23:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

John Citizen (footballer) not (football)

last post from April8!

  • Thanks for reply. Just to fully settle my mind on this ridiculously minor topic, I thought that your answer, and the topic leaves some things unanswered. Do administrators have ability to erase a wikipedia page? Would it not be better to erase redirect page "7 laws of noah"? (leaving "7 Laws of Noah" to do the redirecting)? If such a move causes complications, and compromises the redirect link, then it would not be a good idea. So should the arrangement be left as it is? Now that I have asked all the questions, I can leave behind this topic! (If these questions are anwered!) I can't be the only person to have been slightly unsatisfied with their wikipedia contributions!April8 (talk) 20:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
  • This page is now in Seven Laws of Noah. As regards the redirect links, we must cater for whatever users may type in the search box when looking for information. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

why on earth...

  • did you delete the jemc band page. the page was in no way irelivant. and no way conflicted with the speedy deletion criteria. It is a new music band that i have recently read about and i made sure to construct the page in the same style as simular artists such as digitalism, justice, and sebastiAn. sooo why did you delete it?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edds on (talk • contribs) 10:38, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
  • At 09:10, 30 May 2008 User:Phlegm Rooster speedy-delete-tagged it "non-notable band", so I deleted it. Page JEMC said that so far the band JEMC have recorded 5 single songs and no albums. See WP:MUSIC. If band JEMC becomes notable in the future, then someone will likely write a page about them. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:50, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Anti frogmen

  • I was just posting a note on Axlq's talk page and I saw your message there. I don't know if you are aware of Wikipedia:Third opinion, which is often a good way to resolve a dispute between just two editors. I'll stay out of it since I know Axlq personally. In my view, you both have a point: the links contain good information yet they are also spammy ads. The edit history of the Kongsberg guy just screams "spammer" and any links added by that editor should be rejected automatically; the intent was clearly to advertise. That said, if the article would cite those links as references, there wouldn't be an issue about whether to include them. ~Amatulić (talk) 17:52, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
  • I have edited Anti-frogman techniques again. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The Last Days of FOXHOUND

General Officer

  • Please explain how someone can request the rename of a page, and have it happen, when there is an unresolved discussion on the matter in progress?
  • Please explain why you renamed the page when the penultimate edit comment is "There has been a HUGE debate at talk:rear admiral and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history. Do NOT make changes until issue resolved there?
  • And by-the-way, can you tell me what was on the "General officer" page that you deleted?

Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 08:56, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

The General officer page that I overwrote had 2 edits, both redirects.
The only move discussion that I found in Talk:General Officer is about moving between General Officer and General.
Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Mmmm. You highlight a good point. The discussions on the abovementioned pages talk about the generic issue of changing "Xxxx Yyyy" to "Xxxx yyyy", not about the several hundred specific instances. I doubt that anyone is prepared to identify these hundreds of pages and put a note on their talk pages.
What do you advise? Pdfpdf (talk) 09:56, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Another Mmmm. User:Russ is being "economical" with the truth; If he doesn't advise anyone of his plans, then it is indeed highly likely that they will be "uncontested"! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 09:56, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Your assistance is requested

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