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July 3
Need the consent from Wikipedia to reproduce in my book the Trinidad Anglican Episcopal Coat of Arms.svg
I would like to know how can I obtain permission or consent from Wikipedia to copy and reproduce the File: Trinidad-Anglican-Episcopal-Coat-of-Arms.svg that is shown in the Wikipedia, on the free encyclopedia page. I would like to know if I can do this or what are the steps to obtain the consent from your office in order for me to reproduce it in my book. Thanks in advance, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.110.0.88 (talk) 00:04, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- I do not believe you need to obtain permission, as it is in the creative commons. Athleek123 00:56, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- The licensing information for the image indicates that it has been released into the public domain, which if accurate, means that you need no permission from Wikipedia to reproduce the image. Licensing information on Wikipedia/Wikimedia is not always accurate, you should evaluate the credibility of the licensing tag yourself, though regardless you do not need Wikipedia's consent to use it. Monty845 05:04, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- The general answer to your question is in Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content. --ColinFine (talk) 10:25, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
I don't know if this is the right place for this, but
We need some admin assistance on a controversy with User:Zzspeed. They keep reverting the redirect of "Cassandra Hall Rawlins" (a non-notable soap opera character). The page has been redirected numerous times per WP:NOTABILITY, but the user doesn't seem to care. Any help is appreciated. Shark96z (talk · contribs) 01:39, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- WP:DR? - Purplewowies (talk) 01:46, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- The next time they revert the redirect I will report them to an admin. Athleek123 01:52, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cassandra Hall Rawlins.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:47, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
July 2012 Calendar
I need help re-arranging the days in the calendar, so that it starts on a Sunday, and ends on a Tuesday. SuperHero2111 (talk) 02:53, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- What Wikipedia feature are you referring to? RudolfRed (talk) 02:59, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'm referring to the calendar. You see, I copy-and-pasted the contents of the 2010 calendar, but I just changed the last 0, to a 2. However, July 2012 has a different calendar, than July 2010. So, I don't know how to change the days of the week, in the calendar. SuperHero2111 (talk) 05:12, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- You could try lobbying the ISO-8601 technical comittee. People still are upset about the Pluto thing, but that was the IAU so you might be OK. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 05:22, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'm referring to the calendar. You see, I copy-and-pasted the contents of the 2010 calendar, but I just changed the last 0, to a 2. However, July 2012 has a different calendar, than July 2010. So, I don't know how to change the days of the week, in the calendar. SuperHero2111 (talk) 05:12, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Normally when asking about a specific article, it's good to provide a link to that article. That way we can look at it and have a better understanding of just what it is you're working on and give better answers. That said, I'm guessing that you are referring to Portal:Current events/July 2012/Calendar. If so, I just fixed it for you. Dismas|(talk) 05:23, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
regarding my company products
I publish 2 article on your website one under smart voice network second AVIDO web conference I have been rejected twice I need to know why please call me at [redact] or contact me by email my address [redact] — Preceding unsigned comment added by SmartVoice (talk • contribs) 03:02, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Your pages were blatant advertising. Also, you have an obvious conflict of interest. If you want help, submit your articles at Articles for Creation. Athleek123 03:20, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- It is not permitted to use Wikipedia for promotion or advertising. Period. --ColinFine (talk) 10:27, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Name of spouse is abusive..
Hi, The Bollywood actor Salman Khan is single. But name of his spouse is mentioned as Aishwarya Rai. Ashwairya Rai is wife of Abhishek bachhan the whole universe knows.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Khan This sounds offensive and abusive.
Please block the user who as done such bullshit.
Regards, Sandip — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.183.110.249 (talk) 03:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- It's already been fixed. Dismas|(talk) 03:31, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Blue Links
Is there a way I can get rid of the links in a article while i'm reading it? They sometimes get distracting 173.175.74.6 (talk) 04:30, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- I don't think there is any built-in way to do that. If you create an account, you can choose a different "skin" and in some of the skins, such as modern, the link color is not quite as intense as other skins. Also, with an account, you can load custom css settings, and with that you can probably make the links whatever color you want. RudolfRed (talk) 04:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
If you register an account, you can turn the links off. The option is right under the options that Rudolf refers to about the "skin" that you can have Wikipedia display.I'm sorry, the option that I was referring to only takes out the underline. The linked words still appear in blue. Though you might find that less distracting and be able to not let it bother you. Dismas|(talk) 04:38, 3 July 2012 (UTC)- (ec) What's the name of that option? I don't see it. RudolfRed (talk) 04:42, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- It's on the Appearance pane of your preferences and is labeled "Underline links". Just set it to "Never". Dismas|(talk) 04:45, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- (ec) What's the name of that option? I don't see it. RudolfRed (talk) 04:42, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Click "printable version". Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:44, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Ok Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.175.74.6 (talk) 05:00, 3 July 2012 (UTC) Ill see if it helps... by.. registering.. hah (*maybe registering) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.175.74.6 (talk) 05:02, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
recovery data from hard disk
I formatted my hard disk contained 90% data. After i save 60% data to this hard disk. But now i want formatted data( 90% data). is it possible? please help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.207.233.244 (talk) 07:07, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Have you tried the computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 07:12, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
creating an article
I have put my article into the sandbox but when I look it on preview it has multiple columns that I don't want . Does anyone have any ideas abou thisJkidner (talk) 09:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- I went ahead and removed the gallery code that was causing problems. Hope that's okay. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:42, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Renaissance Malmö Hotel
I was able to correct from 5 star to 4 star, I found no way to correct Marriot to Marriott, how do I solve this Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Randolph23 (talk • contribs) 12:28, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Done All I did was to add a "t". I don't understand how you could not do it. Roger (talk) 12:43, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- What is your source for 4 star? The inline reference [1] says 5 star. I don't know whether it's obsolete or there are other rating systems but articles should not contradict their own references. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:48, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Logo
I may need help on removing background on File:Awake logo.png image. I kind of would like it to be adjusted to something like File:Grey's Anatomy Logo.svg. Thanks, TBrandley 12:47, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Try WP:LAB. Regards.--GoPTCN 14:02, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Or GIMP, probably faster if you do it yourself.--Canoe1967 (talk) 14:14, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Done. Did it with Photoshop. Drovethrughosts (talk) 14:50, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. TBrandley 14:51, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Done. Did it with Photoshop. Drovethrughosts (talk) 14:50, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Or GIMP, probably faster if you do it yourself.--Canoe1967 (talk) 14:14, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Article editing: paragraphs eliminated when previewing text
Hello,
When I edit an article I wrote (that is not published yet), and I click preview or save changes, it does not show all the text I wrote. Is there a word limit that I am unaware of? It's not very long, so I don't know why it would cut out a couple small paragraphs. Is it just a glitch? It keeps the majority of the text, but the bottom three small paragraphs, including the references, are cut out. Please let me know if there is something I need to do or something that I'm doing wrong.
This is the page I need help with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Jacques_Heim_(choreographer)
Thank you,
Chloezakiya
- I fixed it so all the information shows. You hadn't closed one of your references. GB fan 16:24, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Feedback
I don't know whether it is a right page to post or not. I just wanted to give some feedback having used the site for years and more recently as an editor. I believe, most editors are not willing to write in the GA Review process. May be, the Wikipedia is lacking tools and techniques. I believe, this amazing site must make use of some kind of chat facility where editors are able to collaborate, not just by writing to each other, but face to face. It saves time of the editors to complete the review process, resolve conflicts. Many editors (sometimes including me) are not willing to collaborate just because it takes time and effort to pen down in an article or a talk or a review page. Having experienced it recently in a GA review page, I could say this with a bit more certainty, that many editors at the end feel frustrated of having going through the pain of writing an article at first place. Right now, even I am feeling the same and the very reason of writing this post. I have been at both the supply end and at the receiving ends at different instants of time. Also, the look and feel of the Wikipedia should change for better. There needs to be a mechanism where consistency between the articles is maintained for good. I wish all of you the very best in life. Regards.Vaibhavgupta1989 (talk) 16:59, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- I don't use it myself, but many Wikipedians do chat in text in real time about many matters, including editing. See WP:IRC. Karenjc 21:42, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
cfcuk Chelsea Fanzine / Roman Abramovich
I had to laugh when I looked at the Wiki page for Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich. All the way through the page about him, it said that he owned Carlisle Football Club when in fact it is Chelsea that he owns. Your administrators were quick enough to delete the article I wrote about the cfcuk Chelsea Fanzine for not having any 'notable' sources yet they have allowed the Abramovich article to go unedited with what are major factual inaccuracies. I hope that some administrators who are not biased against the Chelsea Football Club or the cfcuk Chelsea Fanzine can now reconsider including my article that was written about the fanzine. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueblagger (talk • contribs) 17:04, 3 July 2012 (UTC) Blueblagger 17:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Roman Abramovich (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Thank you for repairing the article, which was vandalised for just 15 minutes thanks to your prompt action. With 50-100 article edits being made every minute, the encyclopedia relies on sharp-eyed readers such as yourself to draw attention to this kind of nonsense.
- The consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cfcuk was clear. The article needs to show that people have written about the fanzine, not just mentioned it in passing. The page WP:42 is a handy summary of the level of coverage required. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:17, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- I am grateful for you for taking the time to reply. However, I still feel aggrieved. The problem stemmed from the fact that I used the term ‘notable’ in the original piece that was written about cfcuk in order to describe the fact that the fanzine costs just £1, the price being maintained since it was first published and something that is noteworthy in these times of rising prices and inflation.
As well as being referenced on the official Chelsea website – as pointed out in earlier responses to yourselves, it has also has numerous mentions in the press – both in the UK and abroad – the most recent being in the Daily Telegraph by renowned football journalist Henry Winter http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9276305/Champions-League-final-2012-Chelsea-put-their-faith-in-Didier-Drogba-and-Roberto-Di-Matteo.html (18 May, 2012) who confirmed what I had written in the piece about the management and staff at Chelsea FC reading the cfcuk fanzine. As well as retaining the feeling that there is a bias against the fanzine because of tribalism, I wonder how, for example, Wikipedia can include a page about the Fulham fanzine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOOFIF) and not Chelsea’s. Thank you Blueblagger 11:19, 4 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueblagger (talk • contribs)
- Two things you could do: try to have the Fulham fanzine deleted, or write a better article on the Chelsea one in a sandbox and submit it for reconsideration. Success with either would leave you "equal" again. Britmax (talk) 11:34, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
I’m not ‘bitter’ about the inclusion of the Fulham fanzine and I would never try to get anyone else’s insertion deleted as that would, I feel at least, be petty. However, the original article I submitted was edited to take out the ‘offending’ use of the term ‘notable’ and, as well as being fully informative and 100% accurate, can you explain what, in your opinion, I would need to do to the article I posted to ‘improve’ it. Thank you Blueblagger 11:54, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Ref Tags and Reference Lists
Hello, I am having difficulty editing my piece, "Fabrizio Divari". My main issue is correcting my improperly added "ref tag". I have cited the verified sources to which my article is built from, but cannot place them under a numbered reference list. Rather, the reference list is numbered with the embedded phrase evidence that is directly from the source, which I am attempting to properly cite. How do I fix this error of invalid ref tags? I do not know where to place them.
I am incredibly confused by all of the tutorials and cannot figure out how to solve "invalid ref tags."
Also, WikiTalk that I have attempted to publish my article under the title of "MP: Publishing". I do not recall doing this after sending my article for review. How do I reverse this error?
Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OlaMazz (talk • contribs) 18:58, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Please post URL of the "article" in its present state. I put "article" in quotes because when I enter "Fabrizio Divari" in the search box that appears near the top of every Wikipedia page nothing is found. Jc3s5h (talk) 19:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- User:OlaMazz/sandbox, based on the OP's recent edits. RudolfRed (talk) 19:39, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- I see that you are working on User:OlaMazz/sandbox. The style of citations you have chosen is very close to list-defined references, which I have linked to. One thing that needs to be fixed are tags like this:
<ref name = "Now Magazine"/>{{Citation | title = Best of Toronto/2011/Best Tattoo Artist | url=http://www.nowtoronto.com/bestof/winner.cfm?category=623&area=606 | accessdate = 2 July 2012 }}
- There should be no "/" in the ref element; that means that the entire ref element is contained between "<" and ">". Since the citation should be contained in a ref element, you should start with
<ref name = "Now Magazine">
before the citation and end the citation with</ref>
.
- Also notice that for this citation system, the {{Reflist}} template must be written in a slightly more complicated way. Jc3s5h (talk) 19:52, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
how to become a pregnant
i want to know about pregnancy my qus is how to became a pregnant?i want to know every details about this topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.149.7.111 (talk) 20:57, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. RudolfRed (talk) 20:59, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Human fertilization--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:00, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- How to become a pregnant what? Britmax (talk) 21:02, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- "like" 60.241.171.231 (talk) 02:29, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- LOL. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:11, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- How to become a pregnant what? Britmax (talk) 21:02, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- You can also look at the Pregnancy article. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:11, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Human fertilization--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:00, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Global account issues
There's a problem with my global account. When I log in here, it lists all the other Wikimedia sites that I have also subsequently been logged into with my global account, Commons included. However, Commons doesn't have me logged in. In fact, my username over there doesn't exist, even though it should have been created when my global account was created. And i'm also not logged in at Commons, even while i'm logged in everywhere else. What exactly is going on here and how do I fix it? SilverserenC 21:53, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Your Commons account is unattached (see here for details). You can try to attach it by visiting Special:Mergeaccount. This may not work properly if you are using a different password for that account. If it doesn't work, I suspect asking a 'crat at Commons to usurp that unattached account first and then retry the reunification is your best next step. QU TalkQu 22:08, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, to be clearer. This probably means the account at Commons is owned by somebody else, but they've never used it (it was created before the SUL was put in place). So you need to have it usurped (i.e., renamed) so that you can take it over. The place to do this is on Commons QU TalkQu 22:12, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- I don't even remember what my password is for that account. So i've left a message for Commons bureaucrat Juliancolton, so hopefully this will be fixed soon. Thanks for the help. SilverserenC 22:19, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, to be clearer. This probably means the account at Commons is owned by somebody else, but they've never used it (it was created before the SUL was put in place). So you need to have it usurped (i.e., renamed) so that you can take it over. The place to do this is on Commons QU TalkQu 22:12, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Move a wikipedia entry to wiktionary?
I see the entry on Lant and I propose it be moved to wiktionary rather than keeping it as an entry in wikipedia (it's mostly definition, not description) what should I do next?
Riventree (talk) 22:45, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- There is a template Template:Move to wiktionary. 69.62.243.48 (talk) 02:20, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
BLP for divorce
What do I do if a BLP contains marital information that keeps getting removed without regard for sourced content. My beleif is that there is a high probability of a recent divorce that is not documented in the public record. Examples of BLPs in this situation are David Baker (poker player, born 1972) and Christian Cook.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- You revert and warn until a source is provided. Athleek123 23:14, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- I think TonyTheTiger is wanting to add information which he believes to be correct but is not reliably sourced. If that is the case, it cannot be added. Further, if the information which you say is out of date is reliably sourced, then it should not be removed. It's unfortunate, but verifiability not truth is a backbone of Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 16:29, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
July 4
Euro bronze medals
I can not understand the logic of article on the European national football teams. Why does the "UEFA European Championship record," the European Championship semi-finalists are marked bronze color, but in the section marked achievements simply as a semifinal, and profiles of players there are no notes on bronze awards. If the wiki does not know no match for third place does not mean the absence of a set of bronze medals. Two teams semifinal losers are awarded bronze medals. There is no match for the bronze - there are two bronze medalist. For example - Russia and Turkey were awarded real prizes in 2008, the magnificent ceremony was not, but the medals were awarded. I hope the problem will be fixed or will be made public the reasons for the position of the wiki on this subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EddyBenoit (talk • contribs) 00:08, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral in matters like this, so there should never be a need to make public its position. Wikipedia's "position" on topics should be the position of the reliable sources. If it isn't then the problem should be corrected by editors. The question you've asked is a very specific one about football, and you could probably get a more precise explanation or help to change any errors related to it by posting your question here. Good luck. -Thibbs (talk) 03:57, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
custody forms
hi i was told i could get on here and get a form for shared parenting. i can not find it can you please help thankyou
Jennifer Corwin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mama2001 (talk • contribs) 00:15, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. RudolfRed (talk) 00:25, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Help Needed ASAP
Hello all,
I was doing some review work in AFC earlier today, and one of the users whose articles I denied (Ssimmons01) sent me this email:
<email text removed>
The user seems to believe that his article, located here, is licenced to him, as he asks for all copyrighted content to be removed. He has blanked the article and put another review tag on it (for some reason). What should I do? Thanks, Athleek 00:25, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I also found a second article by him of the same subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Bear_Lake,_Chattaroy,_Washington, and seeing as User:Avs5221 declined that one, I am also wondering if Avs5221 recieved the same email from him. Athleek 00:39, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks Fuhghettaboutit for taking action on this issue. Would you mind emailing him and identifying yourself as an administrator and explaining things to him so he stops sending those emails to me. It would be greatly appreciated, Athleek 00:50, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Sure, no problem. Please see the additional message I left on his talk page. I will simply email him and refer him there.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:51, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! Athleek 00:52, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Anytime!--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- However, there is one more issue. I am going to delete the posting of the email. It has "outing" information, and I will revdelete it. I know you might not have been aware of that issue, but keep it in mind. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:57, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- That makes sense Athleek 00:59, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- However, there is one more issue. I am going to delete the posting of the email. It has "outing" information, and I will revdelete it. I know you might not have been aware of that issue, but keep it in mind. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:57, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Anytime!--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I also received this email. Said I was making unclaimed allegations of vandalism and then listed off a litany of legalese. Also claimed complete ownership over his articles. avs5221(talk|contrib) 01:49, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! Athleek 00:52, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
The growing "Google + no disambiguation page" problem
Consider the following scenario:
You want to go to the Dallas article in wikipedia.
1. Google "Dallas". (no one googles "Dallas(city)" )
2. "Dallas(TV series)" is the only Wikipedia page google gives you. (Fine you think, I'll just go through the disambiguation page)
3. Click on Dallas(TV series)
4. No disambiguation page. (you see Dallas (2012 TV series) at the top, you think, maybe that page will have a disambiguation page)
5. Click Dallas (2012 TV series). Dead End.
Frustrated you now have to go back to google and type "Dallas (City)". This time you will find the query you were looking for from the beginning.
The final kick in the teeth: The article is named "Dallas" what you searched for in the first place.
This experience is becoming more and more common as we have tried to move away from the use of Disambiguation pages in wikipedia.
Unless we can change google's algorithms which we can't, the well-intentioned policy of marginalizing disambiguation pages results in frequent "Dead End" experiences for users who overwhelmingly arrive at wikipedia via google.
This is not a complaint, I just wanted to bring to light this growing issue, I just think this problem needs to be looked at seriously by someone. I hope some diligent administrator takes up this cause.
To get a sense of the problem you may wish to add the Disambiguation Page to the respective articles and observe the change in traffic here:
http://stats.grok.se/en/latest90/Dallas%20(1978%20TV%20series)
http://stats.grok.se/en/latest90/Dallas%20(2012%20TV%20series)
http://stats.grok.se/en/latest90/Dallas
Thank you 60.241.171.231 (talk) 00:40, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Or, on the encyclopedia that anyone can edit, someone like you could modify the disambiguation message at the top of any page to add further clarity for this "kick in the teeth". Voila!! Problem solved. Or you could wait to see if someone reads this and decides to do it. Cresix (talk) 00:53, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you.
I was waiting for someone to make that response so I could paste the following:
In another Example:
Pretend you are a general user and attempt to reach the article on the object worn on your finger known as a ring. follow the links and see how many steps it will take you to find the article.
In this case I have actually intervened and tried to minimize the steps by adding a disambiguation link at the top of the first google result: ring(mathematics) but this was reverted by those watching that page in accordance with wikipedia policy.
Do you see the problem? 60.241.171.231 (talk) 01:08, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, we do. If you could fix it, that would be great! WP:BOLD Athleek 01:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
I am trying to bring light to what seems be a systemic problem, Any thoughtful input would be much appreciated. :) 60.241.171.231 (talk) 01:21, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- It's not systematic, I have never seen it before and I work with disambiguation pages every now and then. You just caught a few errors. Remember Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia that anyone, including you, can edit. Athleek 01:24, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- The Wikipedia article on Dallas (the city) is the third Google search result (when I Google Dallas alone), with the TV series being second and a non-Wikipedia site being first; on Yahoo! it is the first Wikipedia result, and fifth result overall; on Bing it is the first Wikipedia result, and third result overall. I know that at least with respect to Google, the results ordering does change based on your search history, maybe the location your IP returns to and I don't know what else their algorithms uses. What I am saying is, my mileage is differing from yours significantly, and at least from the perspective of those results, the problem you've identified is illusory.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:29, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Interesting. I just dumped all my cookies and edit history and tried the same search and the results were quite different. On Google the city was the fifteenth result; fifth on Yahoo! and third on Bing.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:38, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I am in Australia and I don't get Dallas at all. I get only ONE result in the first page and that is the TV series, and in general I only ever get one or at most two results, I have never noticed five wikipedia articles in google's first search page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.171.231 (talk) 01:52, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- If you know you want a Wikipedia article then you can use Wikipedia's own search box or add "wikipedia" to the Google search. Disambiguation links to articles which cannot be confused with the title will be irrelevant to most visitors to a page. We have no technical way to display different disambiguation links for readers coming from Google searches, Wikipedia searches, wikilinks, or elsewhere. An internal search [2] currently finds 1293 articles with ring in the title. Should they all have a link to Ring? Or should we examine Google results periodically and add links to whichever articles are currently high in search results for common words? Should we then repeat it for other popular search engines? It doesn't seem practical to me. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:32, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- if the problem is just that you can't find the right page with Google, try using the Wikipedia search instead to find a Wikipedia page you want. RudolfRed (talk) 01:33, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry maybe I didn't bring the correct emphasis on what I meant, The current wikipedia policy is to remove disambiguation pages as much as possible. Users follow this policy but this results in the problems I have stated above, If a user attempts to find ring using google the wikipedia policy which is being more and more enforced, results in more and more dead ends.
On the wikipedia search engine: The vast majority of users do not use it and have no reason to believe it will give better results than google (which it generally does not). All I can say is this is how the vast majority of people use wikipedia. If the aim of the policy is to change their behavior that's fine, I believe this is not in fact the aim, the aim is usability.
I feel I have done enough on my part to raise this issue and I'm not really interested in arguing with anyone. I'm just trying to help. All I can hope for is that someone more active on the site sees this and recognizes the problem and investigates it further. I feel I have made it as clear as I can. Hopefully it will make a difference. 60.241.171.231 (talk) 01:43, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- "The current wikipedia policy is to remove disambiguation pages as much as possible.": I wasn't aware of that policy. Do you have a link to the policy so we can read it? Cresix (talk) 01:51, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- If it is not then I fully retract my problem report.60.241.171.231 (talk) 01:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- No, seriously, even if you have misunderstood a policy, I think we could benefit from knowing the source of the misunderstanding. Is it an actual policy, or something an editor wrote to justify reverting one of your edits, or something else? Cresix (talk) 01:57, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I just re-read the policy and it seems to draw a logical dividing line between what should have disambiguation and what shouldn't, fair enough. however the idiosyncrasies of google (if we accept they exist) means the best policy might be that all articles should have disambiguation links at the top if there is any article with the same name. 60.241.171.231 (talk) 02:07, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Can you please provide a link to the policy you're reading? Thanks. RudolfRed (talk) 02:08, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Just google Wikipedia disambiguation policy :) never mind. If the I'm the only one who sees a problem, then its not worth looking at it any further.60.241.171.231 (talk) 02:25, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Your refusal to reveal which policy you refer to is confusing but when you say "wikipedia policy is to remove disambiguation pages as much as possible", I guess you mean a guideline about removing links to disambiguation pages from pages with names which cannot be confused. For example, the first Wikipedia page in a Google search on "mark" is Mark Zuckerberg. In accordance with Wikipedia guidelines, that page has no link at top to Mark for readers who are interested in other people or things called mark but still clicked a link to a page called "Mark Zuckerberg". PrimeHunter (talk) 10:35, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Just google Wikipedia disambiguation policy :) never mind. If the I'm the only one who sees a problem, then its not worth looking at it any further.60.241.171.231 (talk) 02:25, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Can you please provide a link to the policy you're reading? Thanks. RudolfRed (talk) 02:08, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I just re-read the policy and it seems to draw a logical dividing line between what should have disambiguation and what shouldn't, fair enough. however the idiosyncrasies of google (if we accept they exist) means the best policy might be that all articles should have disambiguation links at the top if there is any article with the same name. 60.241.171.231 (talk) 02:07, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- No, seriously, even if you have misunderstood a policy, I think we could benefit from knowing the source of the misunderstanding. Is it an actual policy, or something an editor wrote to justify reverting one of your edits, or something else? Cresix (talk) 01:57, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- If it is not then I fully retract my problem report.60.241.171.231 (talk) 01:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Reference not working, not sure why
Here's the link: [3]
Thanks -- Vranak (talk) 02:18, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- fixed. You were missing closing ]] for the New York Times. RudolfRed (talk) 02:25, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Aaaahhh... thank you so much. Vranak (talk) 03:25, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Where can I seek advice for a WikiDrama or user conflicts without getting anybody else involved?
Long story but I'm going to make it short, last month I got into this huge argument with 3 other users, they kind of took most of my own posts out of context and kept on applying other policies to make it seem like I was violating them. This made me feel stressed and frustrated and it let towards an exchange of uncivil responses from both sides. It was mainly because they disagreed with the article being deleted or moved since I was planning on proposing a merger. The conflict ended when one of the users involved left a kindly written letter and told me to put the merger on hold for now.
A month had passed since then and I'm planning on finally proposing a merger this time but I'm worried that this conflict might occur again. If it does then I am planning on taking it to the Wikiquette assistance but I'm having doubts if my actions are necessary so I want someone in Wikipedia with the right expertise to review what had gone wrong with this conflict last month without having to get the other 3 involved just yet. Is there a way for that to happen? 119.224.27.62 (talk) 03:24, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I think you could request a short mentorship relating only to this issue. From what you've described so far, though, I don't think there should be any reason to avoid proposing the merger. A proposal is a way to request input from the community. In the end I suppose it depends on the exact context here, but it's hard to imagine why any other editors would wish to avoid such a discussion. -Thibbs (talk) 03:47, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
wrong Map of India
Dear Team, When I was searching for information on "Lakshadweep", I found that the map of India was incorrect. It did not show the POK of the state of Jammu and Kashmir. As a result, the portion looks truncated. As far as I know, the POK is not in Pakistan, it lies still in India.
Kindly rectify the same. It is a National Honour for us at Inida.
Rajesh Gopalakrishnan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.61.94.235 (talk) 07:29, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- The map you refer to seems to be the same as the map in the India article. If you think the map is wrong, you should explain why on the talk page of the India article. Maproom (talk) 10:34, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I guess you refer to a region which is claimed by both countries but controlled by Pakistan. Your IP address is in India. Indian sources probably tend to support the Indian claims and maybe show maps with everything claimed by India. It appears Wikipedia follows the Line of Control to indicate who actually controls which area without taking sides in the conflict. Both countries claim areas controlled by the other. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:44, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- The map is used in many places and discussed at commons:File talk:India location map.svg. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:51, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Hide rollback links on watchlist
I've been checking my watchlist from my phone while my dad works on finding some drivers for my new computer. I keep fat fingering the links and accidentally hitting rollback quite often. Sometimes I can stop it before the action goes through, but sometimes I can't. No matter how far I zoom in or out, a rollback link always seems to be right up against the link I want to click. Is there a way to hide the rollback links on my watchlist? (I'd like to have them available everywhere else, though, since rollback is one of the few types of edits I can do easily and effectively from my phone if I need to.) - Purplewowies (talk) 07:50, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Just add the following to your common.css page:
.mw-special-Watchlist .mw-rollback-link {
display: none;
}
- (from Wikipedia:Customizing_watchlists#Remove_or_modify_the_.5Brollback.5D_link). benzband (talk) 08:03, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks! It was a bit hard trying to do it from my phone, but I did it; thanks! - Purplewowies (talk) 17:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Irrelevant muzak in article
Wikipedia's File:Aerial Superhighway.ogv (used in the jet stream article) is accompanied by an annoying and irrelevant piece of musak. Should/could this be removed from the file?--Shantavira|feed me 11:00, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I agree that it is annoying and irrelevant. If I knew how I would separate the sound from the image. Cresix (talk) 15:53, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- what you need is a "demuxer" for ogg vorbis video, though a cursory Google doesn't yield hopeful results! Nikthestoned 16:03, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
How to remove deleted page?
I created a page which was deleted. My question is 'how do I completely remove that page?' so that when anybody visits, nothing appears, not even the deletion notice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.178.89.214 (talk) 11:35, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- The deletion log cannot be removed but the url will report a HTTP 404 Not Found error message. When external search engines like Google detect this they should remove the page from their search index. Wikipedia does not control when this happens. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:58, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Avoiding my name showing
Dear Wikipedia. I am now ready to go live with my article. When I went live with a previous draft some months ago, my name appeared next to the subject name. How can I avoid this, and what is the easiest and simplest way for me to move my article to the live page. Thank you for your kind help. Maya Frida Barr (talk) 11:51, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Maya, you have to move it from your userspace into the mainspace. That way, the User:Maya Frida Barr/ prefix will no longer appear. benzband (talk) 11:57, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- See WP:So you made a userspace draft. You appear to have blanked your sandbox for some reason, but you can retrieve the text if you want to from the History of the page. --ColinFine (talk) 17:03, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Adding missing geocoordinates
A recent edit of The Anomebot2 forced the article Versatel building to appear in Category:Germany articles missing geocoordinate data and Category:All articles needing coordinates. How do I fix this? I guess I could just add {{Coord}} to the article, but I don't know where to get the correct values for the parameters from. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 11:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- File:Versatel Stuttgart (2008).jpg has camera coordinates. From there I used Google maps to find more precise building coordinates. 48°47′03″N 9°10′41″E / 48.78417°N 9.17806°E gives [4] in Google Maps. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:26, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I added the template with 48.78409 N and 9.17799 E and that leads one to the correct location when clicking on the link. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Blacklisted BLP name
Hi all. I can't create the talk page to the William Robert Colton page as The title "Talk:William Robert Colton" has been banned from creation. It matches the following blacklist entry: .*colton.*... Anyone know where this blacklist is and where I can make requests to change it? Doesn't appear on either the Meta spam blacklist or the Wikipedia one... Nikthestoned 12:51, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I have created Talk:William Robert Colton. I guess you have chosen en-GB as language at Special:Preferences. This is not recommended because many interface messages have only been customized for the default en. If you switch to that then you get links to the right pages.
.*colton.*
is at MediaWiki:Titleblacklist. The links in your post are for external links and not for Wikipedia page names. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:22, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- You talking about the meta-wiki link? I've only ever seen them like that, how else would it look? The interface message also looked fine to me lol - what should I have seen? Cheers, Nikthestoned 14:03, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for creating the page also!!
Nikthestoned 14:08, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for creating the page also!!
- Compare http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:W_Colton&action=edit&uselang=en-gb and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:W_Colton&action=edit&uselang=en (admins can create the pages and don't see the difference). The latter is shown to users who haven't changed away from en in preferences. There are many other interface messages where en has been customized and en-gb has not. Help:Preferences says: It is not recommended to select "en-GB - British English" or "en-CA - Canadian English" at the language option in preferences. (I added it). PrimeHunter (talk) 18:00, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- You talking about the meta-wiki link? I've only ever seen them like that, how else would it look? The interface message also looked fine to me lol - what should I have seen? Cheers, Nikthestoned 14:03, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
I want to add a Japanese entry for a famous person that currently has no Japanese entry.
I was wanting to create a Japanese section for Andy Griffith due to his recent death, but I'm not sure how I would go about creating the separate language edition of it. Any tips? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluefiberoptics (talk • contribs) 12:56, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Hi there. Assuming you can indeed read & write Japanese, just head over to the same page on the Japanese wikipedia and create it! Here's a link: Andy Griffith. Cheers, Nikthestoned 12:59, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Translate us is supposed to help you with this, but it's not yet very useful. You could have a look anyway. --Colapeninsula (talk) 14:09, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- See jp:アンディ・グリフィス, which Bluefiberoptics created because of what s/he was told here. Nyttend (talk) 22:27, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
A photo of someone else is stated to be me.
I am DAVID RUBINGER. Wikipedia used a picture of someone else in the biography of me. I find this affects me in many unfavorable ways and ask you to rectify this immediately. If you wish, I shall provide you with a photo which is REALLY me. Please inform me how to go about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.172.154.143 (talk) 13:56, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I've taken it out. If we need to put it back the ref is still in the history, of course. Britmax (talk) 14:01, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Hi David. If you own a photo of yourself to which you own the copyright, and which you are willing to release under an appropriate licence, then the simplest thing to do is upload it to Wikimedia Commons. Use the Commons Upload Wizard and it should be fairly straightforward. It can then be used in the article. Yunshui 雲水 14:02, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Did I break it? (possibly Twinkle-related)
Could someone take a look at 2012 NCAA Division I baseball season? I tried to tag it with {{context}}, using Twinkle, and all manner of odd things happened. Twinkle gave me an error message once, so I tried again, so two edits were recorded. The second edit shows up in my watchlist as having added 24,431 characters, but in the article history and in the diff it's clear it added none. The template's also showing up oddly on the page. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 13:58, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- The refs show "Node-count limit exceeded" everywhere, which is mentioned on the Template limits page, I'd recommend you check that out! Nikthestoned 14:23, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I think I might be even more confused than I was before I read that page. Can someone explain it in layperson's terms, or alternatively just advise me as to how to fix the weird transclusion? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 14:47, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yea, I don't understand that page either but it is the reason! I think it's due to the many many {{CBSB link}}s within the transcluded {{2012 America East Conference baseball standings}} etc templates in the Conference standings section. I CAN fix it by simply removing all of these, but this appears to constitute the entire article! Nikthestoned 14:51, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Well, given it was entirely broken before, I've commented that section out... No idea how to fix the page properly without first amending all of those (now-commented) transcluded templates such that they're not using the (allegedly) inefficient {{CBSB link}} templates. That make any sense heh? Nikthestoned 14:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, that'll do I suppose. I've certainly come across a lot of sports-related articles composed almost entirely of transclusions – do you think this problem's likely to recur? If so it might be worth pointing it out at WP:SPORT. (I still wouldn't know how to explain it.) – Arms & Hearts (talk) 15:18, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I think it's known that {{CBSB link}} in inefficient, there's a note on the template page stating it. Each of those templates I commented out used the CBSB template many times - the fix would be to go through each of those transcluded templates and just put in proper wikilinks to the team pages... Which looks like it may take some time! I can provide you with a list of these somewhere in your userspace if you like? Nikthestoned 15:25, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, that'll do I suppose. I've certainly come across a lot of sports-related articles composed almost entirely of transclusions – do you think this problem's likely to recur? If so it might be worth pointing it out at WP:SPORT. (I still wouldn't know how to explain it.) – Arms & Hearts (talk) 15:18, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Well, given it was entirely broken before, I've commented that section out... No idea how to fix the page properly without first amending all of those (now-commented) transcluded templates such that they're not using the (allegedly) inefficient {{CBSB link}} templates. That make any sense heh? Nikthestoned 14:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yea, I don't understand that page either but it is the reason! I think it's due to the many many {{CBSB link}}s within the transcluded {{2012 America East Conference baseball standings}} etc templates in the Conference standings section. I CAN fix it by simply removing all of these, but this appears to constitute the entire article! Nikthestoned 14:51, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I think I might be even more confused than I was before I read that page. Can someone explain it in layperson's terms, or alternatively just advise me as to how to fix the weird transclusion? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 14:47, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
I.e., do this for each of these... Nikthestoned 15:39, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Not sure I'm confident enough about my knowledge of either sports or templates, to be honest. Also not sure I can be bothered. Thanks for your help though! – Arms & Hearts (talk) 15:44, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Well it's actually super easy but it is indeed going to be time consuming! If you'd like to sort it at some point, just let me know and I'll give you some tips on the "how".
Nikthestoned 15:51, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Well it's actually super easy but it is indeed going to be time consuming! If you'd like to sort it at some point, just let me know and I'll give you some tips on the "how".
List order
Should a "List of <officeholders>" be in normal or reverse chronological order - current person at the bottom or the top? Roger (talk) 16:48, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I would suggest the most recent office holder at the bottom, following the example at List_of_Hewlett-Packard_executive_leadership RudolfRed (talk) 17:54, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- That's what I thought, but I couldn't find any specific guidance in the MOS. Roger (talk) 19:07, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Most everything we do here is meant to be encyclopedic in nature, so we go in chronological order. That's so gut-basic that I'm not sure it's even mentioned in the MOS. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:33, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- That's what I thought, but I couldn't find any specific guidance in the MOS. Roger (talk) 19:07, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
edited article deleted twice
hi.i'm writing because i really need to undarstand why the article that i edited twice was removed twice.when i first edited it it got deleted and i recived a message saying that it was deleted because i posted a link wich was not according to wikipedia format and it adviced to re edit the page without the link so i added the text without the link and i saw it got deleted again.I want to know why as long as the informatiuon that i included can be verifiedHhattceppssutt (talk) 14:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- It really helps if you tell us what article you're talking about so that we can research things and therefore give a better answer. So, with that said, I'm going to assume that you're referring to Candy Candy. You added a link to YouTube that was a copyright violation. The person who posted that video likely does not own the rights and therefore should not have posted it to YouTube. Second, the info that you added did not have a reliable source stating where you got the info. If I'm wrong, please tell us more precisely which article you're referring to. Dismas|(talk) 15:05, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
hi I'm new to wikipedia but I would like some help please.
Hi I'm 28 years old, i'm a new wikipedia user, I have a cognitive condition that I don't want to specify, but can a mentor help me use wikipedia? thanks. Narwhalgal84 (talk) 17:40, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, you can get a mentor. Check out WP:ADOPT. RudolfRed (talk) 17:56, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
template help
hey all,
having a problem with my template code
{{#switch:{{{p|}}}| 3rr | 3RR=[[wp:3RR|3RR]]}}
so if do
{{template|p=3rr}}
it will output
3RR
but if i do
{{template|p=3rr}}
{{template|p=3rr}}
for some reason it outputs it as
3RR
3RR
so it has this big space between it i aint sure why it i doing that
anyone give any advice, oh the template isnt called template just using it as a example, it only becomes more obvious when you do the template twiceAndrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 18:13, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- i think i have worked otu what is causing it i have various lines like this {{#switch:{{{p|}}}| 3rr | 3RR=[[wp:3RR|3RR]]}}
well 4 in total and that is the number of blank lines space thee is so i suspect i need to contain these all i another if type statement?Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 18:29, 4 July 2012 (UTC)- I fixed your problem. Ruslik_Zero 19:00, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- thanks really appericate it, i didn't think it would be as simple as <!-- --> after each bit of codeAndrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 19:04, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- I fixed your problem. Ruslik_Zero 19:00, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Correcting miscatagorization of article as Orphan
This article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Delta_Sigma_Pi_chapters
is incorrectly labeled/flagged/catagorizd as Orphan.
It is linked under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Sigma_Pi#Collegiate_Chapters
My research did not reveal any method for correcting this.
Please assist.
67.79.76.100 (talk) 18:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- With only one incoming link from mainspace it basically still is an orphan. I think the simplest solution would be to merge them. Roger (talk) 19:21, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Transclusion
Special:WhatLinksHere/Rongel says Rongel is being transcluded onto itself. When I look at the page in edit mode, I don't see anything like {{Rongel}}, so what does that mean? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 18:36, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- It's caused by {{Short pages monitor}} which generates the code
{{PAGESIZE:Rongel}}
when used on Rongel. This apparently causes the mentioned page to be listed as transcluded. This also holds for other pages and if the code is not for the page it's placed on. For example,{{PAGESIZE:Great Pyramid}}
generates 135 and causes Great Pyramid to be listed as transcluded here on the help desk. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:29, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. I also see now that in the preview of this reply Great Pyramid is listed under Templates used in this preview: below the edit window where it says Please note: just as you said. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 19:39, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
My Grandmother
Good day, I'd like to know how to submit a short bio of my Grandmother who's 107 years old today & still has all her 5 senses straight for record, how do I go about this? Thank you.--Amazimaop (talk) 19:19, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- An article about her must include reliable sources to demonstrate Wikipedia's criteria for notability. Someone besides you should create such an article. See WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY and WP:COI. Cresix (talk) 19:23, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
highlight
Is there a highlight tool readers could use when reading an article? If there isn't could you make one? It makes researching a lot easier if you could highlight things. Thanks! 65.186.196.79 (talk) 19:59, 4 July 2012 (UTC)A Wikipedia user
- No, and no, but there might be a 3rd party highlighting tool you could find. Gold Standard 20:11, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- You can save any article as a pdf, then mark it up anyway you choose.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 12:11, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
famous people from Homer, Alaska
in the section of famous people from Homer,Alaska, you list Larry Martin, which is correct, but you have him connected to a paleantoligist, which is not correct. Larry Martin, who participated in cross country skiing in the 72 and 76 Olympics, was born in 1950, still lives in Homer and runs a glass shop with his wife, Linda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.67.25.95 (talk) 20:05, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- There's no article on the skier so I've turned it into a redlink. --NeilN talk to me 20:13, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
How does editing a Wikipedia article work?
Hi
I'm just wondering, how does editing a Wikipedia article work? Say someone submits an edit, then what? Must someone approve the edit? Is it an expert? Do they have to fact check it first? Is so, how do they do that? Or is there an algorithm that does everything? Is so, how does the algorithm decide what to print, and what edits are good/bad? Or, is it a combination of both editor & algorithm?
Thanks, Jason Prince — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.236.192.28 (talk) 20:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Most edits are checked by editors doing vandalism patrol in recent changes. Unreferenced information is reverted, so yes "fact-checking" certainly does occur. There are also "algorithms", or "bots" as we call them, that automatically revert edits that are obviously vandalism, like cursing, etc. To answer your final question, yes, it is a combination of both editors and bots. Some things do slip through this edit process, however, and Wikipedia certainly doesn't guarantee the factual accuracy of any of the information on Wikipedia. If you notice an inaccuracy, feel free to fix it yourself, provided that you cite the source of the information. Gold Standard 20:14, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- There are also filters that flag (or maybe block, I'm not sure) certain types of edits (I can't think of specific types of edits off the top of my head because it's been awhile since I've seen this). Users who continually vandalize can be blocked, and articles that are continually vandalized by new or unregistered users may be semi-protected. Editors like me often revert edits by manually reverting them, undoing them, or using rollback (which requires special permission to use). - Purplewowies (talk) 20:58, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- And as far as the "then what?" portion of your question, the edits are made live immediately for everyone to read. There isn't a check process by experts. But part of what editors do is watch articles that they are interested in. The articles appear on what we call a watchlist. So an editor can look at their watchlist and see the articles that have been changed since the last time they logged in. They can then check on the changes and if there is a problem, revert the article to the previous "good" state. Dismas|(talk) 00:55, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Some editors are reviewing the new pages on Special:NewPages and patrolling them. Regards.--GoPTCN 09:44, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- And as far as the "then what?" portion of your question, the edits are made live immediately for everyone to read. There isn't a check process by experts. But part of what editors do is watch articles that they are interested in. The articles appear on what we call a watchlist. So an editor can look at their watchlist and see the articles that have been changed since the last time they logged in. They can then check on the changes and if there is a problem, revert the article to the previous "good" state. Dismas|(talk) 00:55, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- There are also filters that flag (or maybe block, I'm not sure) certain types of edits (I can't think of specific types of edits off the top of my head because it's been awhile since I've seen this). Users who continually vandalize can be blocked, and articles that are continually vandalized by new or unregistered users may be semi-protected. Editors like me often revert edits by manually reverting them, undoing them, or using rollback (which requires special permission to use). - Purplewowies (talk) 20:58, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
edit warring
what do I do about someone edit warring?Missoulianette (talk) 21:24, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- The noticeboard for reporting edit warring is WP:ANI/3RR QU TalkQu 21:29, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Code Used on Monobook.js, Vector.css, etc.
What is the name of the code used on your monobook.js, vector.css, etc., and where can I find out how to use the code? :) Hadger 23:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- .js is JavaScript. .css is Cascading Style Sheets. See Wikipedia:Customisation. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:21, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Alright. Thanks! :D Hadger 23:23, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
July 5
Article Draft Preview
I have been working on an article in the draft space, and whenever I preview it, it only shows the first sentence of what I've written? Is that supposed to happen, or am I doing something wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobby1379 (talk • contribs) 15:34, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- I fixed a few Referencing and Category errors Roger (talk) 15:49, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) You had the slashes to end your refs in the wrong spot. See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AArticles_for_creation%2FQuietCast_Brake_Pads&diff=500811085&oldid=500809141 . I've fixed it for you, as shown in the link I just provided. - Purplewowies (talk) 15:54, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. Is it out of the draft space now? Because I didn't want it to go live yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobby1379 (talk • contribs) 16:37, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- No; it's still at Articles for Creation. From my limited knowledge of that process I think it stays there until you feel like it's done and you add the review template to have someone come by and review it. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:05, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
I want to delete my account
Hello
I created an account in around 2005 - 2006, called divinecirinde. I can't remember the password for it and I wish to delete my account. I can no longer access the email that I signed up to the account with.
Can you please help me to delete the account.
Thank you
Cindy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.88.131.33 (talk) 00:09, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Accounts can't be deleted since your edits need to be attributed to an account. But you do have the right to vanish. See WP:VANISH. Dismas|(talk) 00:50, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- You can simply register a new account and abandon the old one. Roger (talk) 08:49, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Is it possible to merge IP user contributions with User contributions?
I recently made some edits to a page and forgot I wasn't logged in. I wanted to know if those edits could be shown as my user account rather than my IP; essentially just moving my IPs edits into my account's edits? EarthBoundX5 (talk) 00:14, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- It used to be done (see WP:REAT) but it isn't done these days. See this 2011 question/answer and the related 2010 question/answer for more help. BencherliteTalk 00:23, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, it was only a couple of edits, and I mentioned they were done by me in the talk page, so I guess thats it. EarthBoundX5 (talk) 01:44, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Are Administrators allowed to WikiHound someone?
I can't really give the link here because the user might find me but what if someone like an admin admits to WikiHounding and is clearly causing the user distress?119.224.27.62 (talk) 01:17, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Admins have to follow the same rules as everyone else. WP:NOTPERFECT RudolfRed (talk) 01:21, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- I have checked it out via the IP's contribs. It seems pretty heated. It's between User:Fairlyoddparents1234 and User:DreamMcQueen. See their talk pages for more. User:Fairlyoddparents1234 seems to be harassing the other user, and I believe IP is User:DreamMcQueen. Gold Standard 01:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- User:Fairlyoddparents1234 really needs to be put in his place. He repeatedly uses all caps, aka "yelling", all while telling the other user about being civil and not battling. In addition, he criticizes other users for edit warring, while he also edit wars. Anyone else's thoughts? Gold Standard 01:31, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Is there a single warning template for something like this? I dont think this constitutes personal attacks, but it needs to be dealt with ASAP. Gold Standard 01:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe it does constitute personal attacks, actually, I just read a section where fairlyoddparents mocks dreammcqueen's username. Gold Standard 01:44, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- No, wait, that was dreammcqueen doing the mocking. OK, this definitely goes both ways. Gold Standard 01:48, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe it does constitute personal attacks, actually, I just read a section where fairlyoddparents mocks dreammcqueen's username. Gold Standard 01:44, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Is there a single warning template for something like this? I dont think this constitutes personal attacks, but it needs to be dealt with ASAP. Gold Standard 01:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- User:Fairlyoddparents1234 really needs to be put in his place. He repeatedly uses all caps, aka "yelling", all while telling the other user about being civil and not battling. In addition, he criticizes other users for edit warring, while he also edit wars. Anyone else's thoughts? Gold Standard 01:31, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- I have checked it out via the IP's contribs. It seems pretty heated. It's between User:Fairlyoddparents1234 and User:DreamMcQueen. See their talk pages for more. User:Fairlyoddparents1234 seems to be harassing the other user, and I believe IP is User:DreamMcQueen. Gold Standard 01:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Gold Standard. I'm not really talking about those 2 users. None of them are even admins lol. Its about an edit that I saw at the Recent changes page but I didn't get involved in it. But thanks for taking your time to reply and commenting about the other problem119.224.27.62 (talk) 12:04, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Look at WP:ANI or WP:WQA and see if either of those are the right place to request help. If not, the ANI page has a list of other places to go to ask for help, depending on the problem. RudolfRed (talk) 02:23, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Can a adult with a disability get legal and and Financial assitance in Canada for a name change?
I'm a 28 year woman living in BC Canada and I would like to get legal and financial help changing my middle and last name. I have a condition called aspergers and a mental illness hypomania. Can I get Legal and Financial help with this? thanks! Narwhalgal84 (talk) 03:12, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- This page is for questions about how to use Wikipedia, and you already posted in this in the right place. See WP:RD/M RudolfRed (talk) 03:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
How to Edit Ref. 1 in the Article on "Deborah Kenny"?
I am editing the article on Deborah Kenny, because her new book "Born to Rise: ..." has just appeared in print.
On her Reference List, [2] is a link to the Amazon.com sales information.
[1] actually refers to the same book, where I would like to put in more detailed information on her book.
I have trouble making the edit. I cannot access the file, for some reason. Can you help?
Deborah Kenny, "Born to Rise: A Story of Children and Teachers Reaching Their Highest Potential" (HarperCollins Publishers, New York, June 2012), 243 pp. ISBN-13: 978-0-06-210620-9
MrLiu_Math_ShuangWen 05 July 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrLiu Math ShuangWen (talk • contribs) 04:51, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- I fixed the refs, they were supposed to be the same link. Also, remember to make sure you properly cite all info you add. Thanks, Gold Standard 06:42, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- When you are reading an article and see a references section near the bottom populated by a series of numbered citations, you might think that if you edit the page, you will see those citations typed in that section and be able to edit them. However, normally what you will see is code similar to this:
==References==
{{Reflist}} or <references/>
The text of citations is actually in the body of the article, directly next to statements or paragraphs the citations support, using <ref>(citation)</ref> tags, which display as footnotes (e.g.[1][2]) when you are reading an article. The template code shown above in the references section colates and displays all of the citations within the article in a numbered list in which the numbers correspond to the footnote numbers in the text. By clicking on the ^ symbol next to a citation display, you can easily find exactly where in the body of the article the citation text appears in order to edit it. For more, please see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 08:33, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- When you are reading an article and see a references section near the bottom populated by a series of numbered citations, you might think that if you edit the page, you will see those citations typed in that section and be able to edit them. However, normally what you will see is code similar to this:
Infobox pushing down gallery of images
In the article Albizia odoratissima a gallery of images is being forced below the infobox whereas I would like it to be nudged up to be just below the "Gallery" heading. Does anyone know a quick fix for this problem? Thanks Paul venter (talk) 08:36, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Fixed. Using {{Multiple image}} causes the software to treat the gallery as a single large image (and thus drops it below the infobox). I've replaced the template with the
<gallery>
tags, which causes all the images to be treated separately and thus wraps them correctly. Yunshui 雲水 08:47, 5 July 2012 (UTC)- Another solution was to move the template {{commonscat}} in the article below the gallery (I edit conflicted when I attempted to do this).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 08:51, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- The "gallery" tags shrink the images to an unacceptably small size and dropping the "commonscat" template doesn't work either. Paul venter (talk) 12:24, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Template:Auto images bypasses the problem Paul venter (talk) 12:58, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- The "gallery" tags shrink the images to an unacceptably small size and dropping the "commonscat" template doesn't work either. Paul venter (talk) 12:24, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Another solution was to move the template {{commonscat}} in the article below the gallery (I edit conflicted when I attempted to do this).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 08:51, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Seting up a company page
I work for a private company which runs four national ombudsman schemes for the UK government. We are required to do all we can to tell consumers about their right to use our services and would like to set-up a wikipedia page. when we have tried to do this it has been rejected or deleted because it was seen as promotional. I think the best way to get a page set-up would be get another organisation to do it on our behalf but this would not be a simple task. Could someone give me some advice about the best way to proceed?
Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.70.53.194 (talk)
- See Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. Somebody working on your behalf would also have a conflict of interest. If you name the organisation then maybe we can say whether an article will have a chance to satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). PrimeHunter (talk) 10:13, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Remember, Wikipedia is not here to promote your company or its services. There is no "right" to have an article about your organization just because you want one. If your company and the services it has privatized are not notable, then no article will be accepted here. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:38, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello,
I have tried to edit the page for JML Direct TV to make it much simpler and less complicated. I did this on the 27th June. Yet it was rejected by ClueBotNG (1129698). How would I go about making these changes without having them rejected again?
Thanks,
JML123 (talk) 09:15, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Such changes will always be rejected. You removed practically the entire history which was properly sourced. You appear to have a conflict of interest and your username is in violation of the rules. Short answer; what you think is an improvement definitely is not. Roger (talk) 09:54, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- And although you have an account you edited as an IP. I have nothing against IP's per se and you may not have done this as a ruse, but the point is that it looks as though you did... Britmax (talk) 10:15, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- BUT WAIT!!
- Sorry, couldn't resist it. Britmax (talk) 16:53, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- And although you have an account you edited as an IP. I have nothing against IP's per se and you may not have done this as a ruse, but the point is that it looks as though you did... Britmax (talk) 10:15, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Targeted redirects for State of the Union and Recommendation Clauses
I recently created the State of the Union and Recommendation Clauses (see also here). I would like to create targeted redirects to the linked page sections (just like in the case of the Territorial Clause) so that by entering "State of the Union Clause" or "Recommendation Clause" in the search box one is redirected to the corresponding Article II of the United States Constitution sections. How do I do this? --P3Y229 10:17, 5 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by P3Y229 (talk • contribs)
- Create the redirect title just like you would when starting an article and use as the only text:
#REDIRECT [[Target page name#Exact Name of section]]
You can place this basic code using the editing button just above the edit window that looks like this:.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:24, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Just created http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=State_of_the_Union_Clause&redirect=no, but when I enter State of the Union Clause into the saech box he directs me here and from there to the Article Two of the United States Constitution article, but not the target section. What did I wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by P3Y229 (talk • contribs) 10:57, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- I fixed it with this edit. What you did was set the target at the redirect that has "II" in the name (thus creating a double redirect), rather than pointing it at the actual article name.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:07, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for your work. One problem remains. "State of the Union Clause" and "Recommendation Clause" are not displayed in the search box when I enter them there, but the Take Care Clause is displayed. I would like to see "State of the Union Clause" and "Recommendation Clause" also displayed. How is this possible? --P3Y229 12:39, 5 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by P3Y229 (talk • contribs)
- It should come automatically within a day or two. See Help:Searching#Delay in updating the search index. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:25, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for your work. One problem remains. "State of the Union Clause" and "Recommendation Clause" are not displayed in the search box when I enter them there, but the Take Care Clause is displayed. I would like to see "State of the Union Clause" and "Recommendation Clause" also displayed. How is this possible? --P3Y229 12:39, 5 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by P3Y229 (talk • contribs)
- I fixed it with this edit. What you did was set the target at the redirect that has "II" in the name (thus creating a double redirect), rather than pointing it at the actual article name.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:07, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Just created http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=State_of_the_Union_Clause&redirect=no, but when I enter State of the Union Clause into the saech box he directs me here and from there to the Article Two of the United States Constitution article, but not the target section. What did I wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by P3Y229 (talk • contribs) 10:57, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Can't remember the name of a template
I remember there is a talk page template saying something like "In order to centralize discussion, the talk pages of XY redirect here" or something like that. I want to place a notice at the top of Wikipedia talk:Non-free content that Wikipedia talk:Non-free content criteria redirects there. Can someone point me to that template or perhaps suggest another template for that purpose? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 11:31, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Believe it or not,
{{Central}}
!--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:49, 5 July 2012 (UTC)- Brilliant, thanks. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 11:52, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Anytime.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:00, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Brilliant, thanks. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 11:52, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Creating an English version of a French bio
I have recently updated the Martinique entry to show the President of the General Council of Martinique to be Josette Manin on the English version of Wikipedia. There is no bio for Ms Manin in the English version, but the French version has a decent one http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josette_Manin. I realise Wikipedia has a translation service, but how do you transfer and edit a French article to English WP. The French have done the research and the citations and references are in that article. It just requires editing after translation. What is the the best way to achieve this? CheersYameogo (talk) 12:17, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- If you don't understand French, then I suggest asking someone at Category:Translators fr-en or Wikipedia:Translators available. You just need to translate it and then post it here. Don't forget to request an import. Regards.--GoPTCN 12:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Just type Josette Manin here in the English-language Wikipedia, click on the red link, and start writing. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:42, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Translation can help. Please don't just "start writing". To avoid copyvios, it's much cleaner to build and wp:attribute a direct translation first before starting to revise the English version. LeadSongDog come howl! 13:09, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Please help me fix a table format
The table at User:Dodger67/Sandbox/South Africa's Imperial Gift#DH.9J Upgrades needs some tweaking. How do I make the heading rows have a different background colour from the rest of the table? Roger (talk) 13:03, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- One way is to make header rows with ! as in [5]. This automatically makes bold text so you could have omitted that. See more at Help:Table which includes how to set specific background colors. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:15, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've tweaked it a bit more - it looks "standard" now. Roger (talk) 14:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
I might have messed up an article - 'Swansea City A.F.C'
Please help, I was editing the Swansea City A.F.C article and now it says Database Error. The error details are:
Technical details about this error: Last attempted database query: (SQL query hidden) Function: SqlBagOStuff::set MySQL error: 1114: The table 'pc249' is full (10.0.6.50)
The thing is, I did not touch the Tables at all and all that information should be exactly the same as it was before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Feathersk (talk • contribs) 13:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Don't worry, it's affecting other users as well, including me. -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 13:44, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Me too. The article's still there, plus your edits - don't worry! Yunshui 雲水 13:45, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Problems getting information in a Biography of a Living Person
I am a patron of a subject of Living person Biography. There seems to be debate between the subject and the editors of the article over the truth of information that is in the article. The editors will not allow the subject or anyone assisting the subject to put up information telling a different side. I am new to Wikipedia so I am just learning how you work. I understand that as a patron I am not encouraged to edit the article because I have a COI, so I am working on the talk pages with the editors, in a VERY polite way I might add (I can not say the same for the editor). There definitely seems to be a double standard going on here. For example, the editors use any quotes that come from the subjects website they want. But, If there is a comment from another person in favor of the subject they will not take these quotes. They will not take positive quotes from other sources either. The editors,however have used a quote against the subject that comes from a major publication. This quote is not even a direct quote, it comes from a letter written to another person and there is no link to this letter. Any one reading the article wouldn't even take the quote seriously even if it is in a major publication. Consequently, this quote used on the bio isn't even the truth. Also, I have been asking for factual information to be placed in the bio about an additional venture that the subject is working on. The links supporting this information are not accepted because Wikipedia internal mechanisms knock them out as SPAM. None of these links are actually SPAM, one is an official government organization listing the company the subject works for as a director. Finally, neither I nor the subject can edit the bio because of our COI, however the talk pages of the article show that the editors have a very distinct COI because they dislike the subject of the bio. Suzanne Opp (talk) 16:03, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- It should be noted that this is about Robert Sungenis, a Holocaust-denier and opponent of geocentrism, and thus an article where the issues are more complicated than usual. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:44, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- No, that makes no difference whatever, thank you. The material is either reliably sourced and notable or it is not. Britmax (talk) 16:50, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yes and no, Britmax. The rules all still apply: WP:RS, WP:V, WP:NPOV and so forth. But in a case like this, we also run into questions of WP:UNDUE, WP:FRINGE and so on as important considerations. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:54, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Of course you're right. My "special treatment" alarm is on a hair trigger today. Britmax (talk) 19:12, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yes and no, Britmax. The rules all still apply: WP:RS, WP:V, WP:NPOV and so forth. But in a case like this, we also run into questions of WP:UNDUE, WP:FRINGE and so on as important considerations. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:54, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- No, that makes no difference whatever, thank you. The material is either reliably sourced and notable or it is not. Britmax (talk) 16:50, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
First, Suzanne, thank you for acknowledging your COI and willingness to abide by Wikipedia's discouragement of someone editing an article about a subject with which they are closely affiliated. That having been said, extremist points of view inevitably meet resistance from Wikipedia editors for the same reason that such points of view do not receive the same weight in other encylopedias as mainstream perspectives. But, in answer to your question, WP:DR is a good place to start to inform yourself about dispute resolution on Wikipedia. I might add that I don't see much, if any, COI from other editors' comments on the talk page. I think if you have additional concerns you need to continue addressing them on the talk page for a while rather than escalating to a higher level of dispute resolution. Cresix (talk) 16:55, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Umm, why is his opposition to geocentrism a problem? I'd be shocked if there were a single professional astronomer who disagreed with him on that subject. Nyttend (talk) 02:14, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- OrangeMike mistated, I'm sure by accident. Sungenis advocates for geocentrism, at least according to his article. Cresix (talk) 02:54, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Oxford Geology Group
We would like to have an article posted about our society. We realise we can't write it ourselves, but who do we approach to have an article written about the group? WE have been in constant operation since 1957. Our website is www.oxgg.org.uk. thank you. <advertisement removed> Paul Austin Sargent Programme Secretary
- You've got two problems: the society doesn't appear to meet our standards of notability for organizations; and the language you posted was some shamelessly promotional that I've seen fit to remove it entirely. Remember: we are not here to promote your organization, however worthwhile its goals. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:46, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Difference between the UK and England
Could someone who is better at this subject check these contributions? The articles have been left alone in this respect for quite some time and now this SPA is going around changing things. Thanks, Dismas|(talk) 17:00, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know if anything has been agreed in the past on wikipedia about this but here's my thoughts - I'm English but my passport says British in the Nationality section. However, I looked up a few other famous people, for example Hugh Laurie, and he's English in the article. I suspect if you looked hard there's a mixture of British or English across the articles. Some of the IP's changes look useful, they are wiki-linking and adding nationality flags but unless there's a wholesale change across every article for consistency then I don't see much point in making exclusively the nationality change to those articles. CaptRik (talk) 17:47, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'd be inclined to agree with the IP. The relevant guideline in this case would be the WP:OPENPARA section of WP:MOSBIO.
- "1.In most modern-day cases this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable."
- "2.Ethnicity or sexuality should not generally be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the country of birth should not be mentioned in the opening sentence unless they are relevant to the subject's notability."
- Since no one is a citizen of England, arguably in this case British is more appropriate. However, this is controversial and locally, there is currently a dispute going on at the talk page of the Daniel Day-Lewis article over how to describe him. That example isn't completely analogous since in that case he has two nationalities. Valenciano (talk) 19:49, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Musicians: rules re band members in templates
I cannot seem to find the page I need. Basically, I've been told and seen other users numerous times that when it comes to Singers/bands/recording artists/etc. That you do not put the years they were at a record label or what years someone was part of the band in the main template. Is this listed on a certain rule page because I cannot seem to find it. --Shadow (talk) 17:15, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Can't find anything at the moment but I have changed your header to something more likely to attract people interested in the subject. Britmax (talk) 17:24, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Display different template depending on country?
Hi all -- I believe in the past, I've seen ads for the Wikipedia Ambassador Program on Wikimedia sites, specifically asking for Canadian reps. Based on that, I presume we have permission within the privacy policy to customize content based on location?
How easy is this, technically? Is it just a case of copy-pasting some code? Specifically, I'm wondering if a template can be substituted, depending on the viewer's location. -- Zanimum (talk) 17:43, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- No, I think this would go against the privacy policy. You aren't allowed to know where I am located unless I tell you (though my user name is a clue). Watchlist notices and the fundraising banners can vary by location, but no-one else can see which notices and banners have been shown to me. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:02, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- See also Wikipedia:Geonotice. The wikitext of a page cannot be location dependent and regular (non-admin) editors cannot make location dependent notices anywhere. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:25, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- So something such as a country-taylored WP:ITN wouldn't fly? Technical and privacy policy wise, not whether the community would go for it. -- Zanimum (talk) 01:31, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- Correct for technical. I don't know whether privacy would prevent it. If it was technically possible for regular editors to add location dependent wikitext and there were no privacy issues then I would still oppose it because maintenance would suffer when editors see different things. For example, one country could display severe vandalism or other issues which were not noticed because editors checking the page were in other countries. It would also cause confusion when editors discuss a page where they see different things. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:05, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- So something such as a country-taylored WP:ITN wouldn't fly? Technical and privacy policy wise, not whether the community would go for it. -- Zanimum (talk) 01:31, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
how do i submit a new article for Wikipedia? i am an experienced author, with ca. 1,000 publicatons. Where do i send it? What form? Is PDF ok?\
How do i submit a new article for Wikipedia? i am an experienced author, with ca. 1,000 publications. Where do i send my article? What form? Is PDF ok? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.64.17.91 (talk) 19:31, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- You can create it yourself but first, you need to sign up for an account. If you create it, it is very important that you cite your sources as material here must be verifiable (see WP:V and WP:RS. Alternatively you need to submit the article at this link: articles for creation, though again you must provide verifiable sources. Valenciano (talk) 19:42, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- See WP:YFA for guidance on creating an article. RudolfRed (talk) 20:08, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for wanting to help. Wikipedia warmly welcomes assistance to improve existing articles and create new ones where appropriate. I'd strongly recommend you read the links suggested by Valenciano and RudolfRed before you go any further, and perhaps try improving existing articles before you move to creating new ones, because it's a great way to find your way around and learn how to edit. No previous experience is necessary - since you've managed to edit this page and add your query, you're already a Wikipedia editor! Bear in mind that Wikipedia is a collaborative project, so whatever you contribute is very likely to be edited by others in due course. Welcome, and happy editing :) - Karenjc 20:40, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
As a published writer myself: the article creation process here does not really consist of article submission in the sense that you would submit an article to the New Yorker or SPIN or whoever. You do not "submit" something already created offline, but rather build it on a scaffolding already provided (so to speak). I second Rudolf and Valenciano's suggestions, that you take a look at how it's done here, as the experience is very different indeed. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:51, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Miszabot archiving issues
Please see here. Is there something wrong with the code? SilverserenC 21:04, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Responded there. Equazcion (talk) 21:31, 5 Jul 2012 (UTC)
- Issue resolved, thanks! -- Eclipsed (talk) (COI Declaration) 21:52, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Joseph Stalin
"How could Stalin's spouse Nadezhda Alliluyeva (1919–1932) be only her thirteens when she died. There isn't an edit button that could help me to change this error. Best regards prefix:Talk:Joseph Stalin" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.243.193.40 (talk) 22:16, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- That's not her age, that's how long she was married to Stalin. The page is semi-protected, so not everyone can edit it. If you see an error on a page you can't edit, you can bring up the problem on the article's talk page and then add the {{edit semi-protected}} tag to get it noticed. RudolfRed (talk) 22:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
How do I remove this text?
I am trying to "dress up" a task force page by dividing into left and right sides. I have it almost completely done, but I have run into a snag. The right side has the words "Good articles" at the top of the page. I want to remove this text, but I don't know how to do so. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 22:59, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- The problem may be from the transcluded page Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Umpires task force/Recognized content. - Purplewowies (talk) 23:40, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- I guess you actually don't want it removed completely but have it displayed under "Featured/Good Content" as in [6]. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:51, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you. The problem appears to be resolved now. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 23:54, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Why doesn't my edit appear even though it's is shown under 'view history' as the last one?
why doesn't my edit appear in "talk" section of this article even though when I click "view history' this edit is shown there as thre last one being made? is it pending approval os smh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Large_Hadron_Collider — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.7.149.190 (talk) 23:45, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- The most recent edit isn't by you, it just looks like it's by you since the IP is similar. Gold Standard 23:48, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- I guess you made the edit [7] from a dynamic IP address. I see the edit at Talk:Large Hadron Collider#Who funds the project?. Try to bypass your cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:55, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thank You83.7.149.190 (talk) 00:05, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- I guess you made the edit [7] from a dynamic IP address. I see the edit at Talk:Large Hadron Collider#Who funds the project?. Try to bypass your cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:55, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
July 6
Adding citations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asher_Bilu At the top of this page there is a message: "This biographical article needs additional citations for verification. Please help by adding reliable sources. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous or harmful. (January 2011)"
Can you please tell me what else is required? Luba bilu (talk) 00:41, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- Possibly nothing. Based on the history, it looks like the article has been improved quite a bit in the last 18 months. At the time the tag was added, there were no refs at all. Look at the guidance at WP:BLP and if you think it's well-sourced enough, you can remove the tag. The tags are not automatic, an editor puts them in, and then after the article is fixed someone else needs to remove it. RudolfRed (talk) 00:53, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- Some of the sections do need more inline citations, like Early Life Gold Standard 01:03, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Immpossible to create correct external link
I am trying to report a small bug in the editing/display Javascript for external links but am finding many roadblocks and difficulties. I don't know if the Wikipedia Bugzilla requires a separate account from the Wikipedia editing account or it just doesn't work but I gave up trying to post there. It should not be so difficult to give feedback.
I ran into a problem while entering external links for an article: Screw-propelled vehicle. The script insists on appending part of the author date [key = date] to the author link [key = authorlink] and destroys the link. I tried a number of variations but nothing seems to work so I just left it. Specifically, the code grabs the "21" from the date key and appends ".+21" to the URL, thereby destroying it.
Please pass this on to whomever is responsible for the Javascript coding.
Also, is Bugzilla broken or does it require a separate account? If separate account, why the roadblock?
Thank you for your assistance. ArtKocsis (talk) 02:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- Screw-propelled vehicle (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- I have removed the authorlink parameters; as described at Template:Cite web/doc, this parameter is supposed to link the author name to a Wikipedia article. As you saw, it doesn't work if you try to link to an external site. I have also simplified the publisher parameters, removing the http prefix, again following the examples in the template documentation.
- But the article has too many external links, in my opinion, and it is hard to see how they pass the Wikipedia guideline on external links. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:27, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- Bugzilla has another account system and requires its own accounts. See Wikipedia:Bug reports and feature requests. It isn't "Wikipedia Bugzilla". Bugzilla is for all the thousands of wikis using the MediaWiki software like Wikipedia. You are a new editor and problems you encounter seem more likely to be due to not understanding Wikipedia yet than bugs in the software, so I suggest you post here and not Bugzilla. {{Cite web}} is a Wikipedia template and not part of the MediaWiki software itself so if the template actually had a bug then it still wouldn't belong at Bugzilla. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:52, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- See Help:Citation Style 1#Common issues. I will be adding this to each template doc page eventually. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 11:03, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Can this be called WikiHounding?
For privacy reasons I am posting this as an IP user and please note that my contributions are not related to my question. This is about an incident that I witnessed and was involved in.
Let's say for example I ask a question in a talk page of an article. Two users named User 1 and User 2 then follows me into this article. They tell me that its not the right place to ask a question. I tell them that what they are doing is making me feel frustrated and stressed but User 2 tells me that what I said in another page will comeback to haunt me here at Wikipedia.
Is there anything wrong with what User 2 had said? Would User 1 and User 2 be WikiHounding me?119.224.27.62 (talk) 03:56, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- My advice is the same as the last time you asked. If you're having trouble with a user, follow the guidance at the page you linked or WP:WQA or WP:DR or WP:ANI. The ANI page also has a list of resources that might help. RudolfRed (talk) 04:56, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- Hi thanks for replying again, I wasn't really having any trouble with a user. I'm not directly involved but I'm worried about that user who is. But I guess I should tell that user to follow the advice you gave me.119.224.27.62 (talk) 06:15, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
cite error
The Torrents of Spring page. Having trouble with citation. Please help for future references too. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.49.65.3 (talk) 05:10, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- I don't see any errors at Torrents of Spring. Read WP:REFB and see if it helps with your trouble. RudolfRed (talk) 05:13, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- Not sure how you missed it, although, I am very green. I used your cite tool -which I originally missed- and it looks fine now. Just for you to double check if you feel the need to keep things clean. It was the Baker reference under publication. Thanks again, and I look forward to contibuting more about EH. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.49.65.3 (talk) 05:24, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- I see no references at all on Torrents of Spring or Torrents of Spring (film) - so I really have no idea what this is about. Roger (talk) 06:44, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- The Torrents of Spring. - Karenjc 07:30, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- Wow, that's confusing! Too many torrents. HiLo48 (talk) 07:33, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- It's always a good idea to peek at a questioner's recent contributions. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:23, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- Wow, that's confusing! Too many torrents. HiLo48 (talk) 07:33, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- The Torrents of Spring. - Karenjc 07:30, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- I see no references at all on Torrents of Spring or Torrents of Spring (film) - so I really have no idea what this is about. Roger (talk) 06:44, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Bangalore Univeristy
Hello!
Why is Bangalore University shown to be located n the Nairobi area of Kenya on Facebook? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.73.100.100 (talk) 05:35, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- If there is an error on Facebook, you'll need to contact them to fix it. RudolfRed (talk) 06:31, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- See the Help page on Facebook. We at Wikipedia have no control over what happens there. Roger (talk) 06:37, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Wikipedia— such use complies with Wikipedia policies on reuse of content. We at Wikipedia have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center.
- As you say, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bangalore-University/103136616393294 claims the location is Westlands, Nairobi Area, Kenya. The page says "Description above from the Wikipedia article Bangalore University". This only applies to the part with heading "Description". The alleged location in other parts of the page is inserted by Facebook and not taken from Wikipedia. I don't know how Facebook generates location information but they sometimes get it wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:39, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
need to attach a news paper article for authenticity
Dear Sirs,
I want to attach a News Paper article which has the biography of mine. It is in pdf format. How to do the same.
Regards
Ganesan Natarajan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.50.68 (talk) 09:39, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- No you don't attach news articles, you Cite them. See WP:Referencing for beginners. Roger (talk) 09:42, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Admiral Arthur William Radford High School, Honolulu, Hawaii (vs) Radford High School, Radford, Virginia
Can you please fix the web site for the Admirial Arthur W. Radford High School..It is located in Honolulu, Hawaii.. Not in Radford, Virginia...Please give these two schools two different sites... Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.0.48.67 (talk) 10:05, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- Please post a link to the page where you see the problem. If it's a Facebook page like http://www.facebook.com/pages/Radford-High-School/110635745624243 then see #Bangalore Univeristy above. It's an error made by Facebook and not Wikipedia, and we have no control over it. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:12, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- The Wikipedia article is Admiral Arthur W. Radford High School and it doesn't mention Virginia. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:15, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Facebook errors being blamed on WP.
I see more and more of these complaints here, there seems to be a definite escalation. I think it might be a good idea(tm) if someone at WMF could have a word with the powers that be at Facebook. They really need to get their sh#t together and stop making so many simple errors which we get blamed for! Roger (talk) 10:30, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not exactly free of errors. I wonder whether Facebook gets blamed for errors they actually did copy from Wikipedia. The Facebook use of Wikipedia articles was announced in [8] by foundation:User:Kul so maybe he is the person to contact. I guess the location field in Facebook community pages is auto-generated with some algorithm which would be difficult to perfect, and Facebook errors are only our business when we get blamed for them. If we contact Facebook then I think we should only suggest that they make it more clear that the location field is inserted by Facebook and not taken from Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:57, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
The method to get my username back.
Is there any method I can retrieve my `universal` user name back? sorry, but the thing is I forgot my password for Wikipedia and it happens to be an account without setting a e-mail. So the option of `forgot the password` will also not work. Thanks in advance