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Errors in the summary of the featured article
Errors with "In the news"
- Voepass Linhas Aéreas Flight 2283 crashed at Vinhedo, not Sāo Paulo. Mjroots (talk) 05:28, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Not done You will find that Vinhedo is located in São Paulo (state), and that is what the hook links to. Hence, it's correct as stated. Schwede66 05:45, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Most people will see "São Paulo" and connect it with the city. Mjroots (talk) 06:00, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- "... in the Brazilian state of São Paulo"? Moscow Mule (talk) 06:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- It now says "crashes in the Brazilian state of São Paulo" Schwede66 10:06, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- "... in the Brazilian state of São Paulo"? Moscow Mule (talk) 06:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Most people will see "São Paulo" and connect it with the city. Mjroots (talk) 06:00, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Errors in "Did you know ..."
Errors in "On this day"
- 1904 Battle of the Yellow Sea - the sentence that has "naval history's first major confrontation" is not sourced. It may be in sources of next para but I can't access Forczyk and a search gives ambiguous results (some say that the following year's Battle of Tsushima was the first).
- Instead of pulling, we could change the item to something else from article that is sourced? JennyOz (talk) 05:22, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Done I have swapped it out as there were too many "citation needed" tags for my liking. Schwede66 04:59, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Errors in the summary of the featured list
Errors in the summary of the featured picture
General discussion
A better word?
Quote from the main page (picture of the day): "Here, the frontside and backside hemispheres ....". Now I know this is an international encyclopedia, so we can expect various varieties of English, but in a lot of the english-speaking world "backside" is simply another word for bottom, rear, buttocks etc. In fact, it has no other use. I know in other areas (e.g US) it doesn't have such a meaning, but even so, maybe we could find an alternative? It just looks so funny to many english speakers in its current use on the main page. 86.29.45.18 (talk) 21:27, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Image protection redux
Currently, some main page sections rely on the Commons protection bot. I check it very rarely, but often find it failing, like today (TFA and TFP images were not protected). I guess the thinking has always been "don't fix until the vulnerability is actually exploited". Materialscientist (talk) 00:54, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- It appears that KrinkleBot stopped working about six days ago. It's more than a bit troubling that the problem has just been pointed out now.
- I keep trying to convince people that the task (which was set up as a fallback and has failed on multiple occasions) shouldn't be relied upon as a first-line protection method, but few are willing to listen.
- And this issue isn't confined to Wikipedia. Some of our fellow Commons administrators have actually unprotected main page images (including those used in ITN, the one section whose images aren't transcluded at the bot-watched Wikipedia:Main Page/Tomorrow or DYK queues well in advance) on the basis that the bot's cascading protection has rendered conventional protection unnecessary.
- Sadly, you might be right that the matter won't be taken seriously until some very embarrassing imagery appears on the main page. Of course, this already has occurred numerous times; that's why the bot task was devised in the first place. Unfortunately, this has been mistaken for encouragement to be less diligent. —David Levy 02:58, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/TFA Protector Bot 2 has stalled. Any bot operators like to take it over? BencherliteTalk 08:21, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- Such redundancy certainly would be helpful. —David Levy 15:41, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- I notified Krinkle, who now has the bot up and running again. —David Levy 15:41, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- Which was used as a reason for rejecting my request to protect the POTD images on Commons (at least for today) "just in case". I doubt there could be much redundancy when one doesn't have the admin bit on both Commons and English Wikipedia. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:35, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
- I don't understand ChrisiPK's rationale. At worst, manual protection of the next day's image would have been a redundant safeguard. It couldn't possibly have caused any harm.
- This is an example of the attitude to which I referred above. Legitimate protection is being undone/denied because of a misguided belief that the bot has rendered it obsolete. —David Levy 03:16, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
- Precisely... and local uploads aren't feasible for all FPs... those over 100mb can't be uploaded locally owing to the size limit, and a lower resolution version is unfeasible because that's not the version promoted (and thus not the version we're supposed to be showing). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:25, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
- Interesting. The DYK bot won't post unless the picture is already protected. When I post a picture to ITN, I always upload a local copy. --ThaddeusB (talk) 21:20, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Use of "first-ever"
"First-ever" (as in "The first-ever outbreak of chikungunya in the Caribbean") is a colloquial expression that carries connotations that you are addressing a skeptical audience that will not believe you unless you make your claim in the strongest terms. It is unsuited for use in formal or encyclopedic prose. The word "ever" should be dropped, as doing so has no effect on the meaning. WolfmanSF (talk) 18:19, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. This kind of issue can be raised at WP:ERRORS in future. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:30, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- Not necessarily sceptical - 'first ever...' implies high to complete certainty (Neil Armstrong was the first ever man on the moon); 'probablly the first' and/or 'first known' implies a lower degree of certainty. 80.254.147.68 (talk) 12:05, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
Recent deaths
A minor thing, but didn't this link used to be on the bottom left-hand side of the ITN section and not the bottom right? Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 06:21, 8 May 2014 (UTC)