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Kilograms vs Pounds

Greetings!

I see many articles where the weight of something (or someone) is expressed only in the imperial measurement of pounds. As someone raised with the metric system I am constantly needing to lookup the conversion rates. Since most of the world uses the metric system, is it acceptable to amend those pages to include kgs perhaps in brackets immediately afterwards? For example, change something to, "It was believed to have weighed 320 pounds (145 kgs)."

Many thanx. 120.29.44.178 (talk) 00:32, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse, IP editor. Imperial measurements such as pounds, feet, miles, acres and so on are still standard in the United States, with variations described at United States customary units. So, if the topic of the article is specific to the US, the article should be based on those units of measurement. If the topic is specific to any country using the metric system, then use millimeters, meters, kilograms, hectares and so on. Historical articles are an exception and may use units of measurement that were common in the past. If an article is of worldwide applicability, then we have templates which convert from one unit of measurement to another, displaying both in the article for the convenience of the widest range of readers. Please see Template:Convert for complete details. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:03, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi and welcome to the Teahouse. The ideal way to handle this is to use Template:Convert. Using your example, the template would be {{convert}}. Filled in as {{convert|320|lb|kg}} produces 320 pounds (150 kg). There are lots of possible conversions and lots of options such as suppressing abbreviations or adding multiple results (such as square kilometers to acres, hectares and square miles). You can specify the precision and rounding off, whether to use British metre or US meter and so on. WikiFaries frequently add these types of templates to articles. BE BOLD. Add a convert template when it's appropriate and have fun, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·ʇuoɔ) WER 01:18, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for the replies. The Template:Convert thingy is exactly what I need so I can now use 1 pound (0.45 kg) to make it much more friendly. Appreciate the help.27.33.21.224 (talk) 02:59, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

IP article creation

I happened upon an article created by an IP in 2004. Is this something that is currently possible? Can IP editors create new articles? If not, does anyone know about when this stopped?Mark Miller (talk) 20:30, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They can definitely create articles via the articles for creation process. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:33, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The ability of unregistered users to create articles was removed after this, if I recall correctly. That was sometime in 2005, so I assume there are quite a few of these still around. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 20:43, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

1 made entry then realised I hadn't logged in - help; 2 where do I find answers to previous questions?

Hi all,

1. I just did a couple of edits then realised I'd not logged in. Grrr. How do I alter the user details on the entry so they read my profile not my details?

2. I made the very same mistake a few weeks back and posted about it - somewhere in the talk section. So I thought I'd go and find that answer, look it up and sort the problem myself. But I can't find it. Where do I look - or do replies like this get deleted after a small amount of time?

Thanks in advance. Alterations (talk) 20:01, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Alterations. You can edit the page and make a minor change (like adding an extra space between two words, which will have no affect on the display in "read mode"), and leave an edit summary explaining the issue, like "the last two edits to this article (at 19:45 and 08:56, May 1, 2015‎) were by me while not logged in". This is called a dummy edit. Alternatively, if you want we can revdelete them, if you feel your IP address information is a sensitive matter of personal information. Requests for revdeletion can be made by following the instructions here, although just posting that you'd prefer this, here, should do the trick. For extraordinarily sensitive material, we also have oversight. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:30, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back Alterations. Your previous question is here. The page gets very long and from time to time it gets archived. There is a box below the table of contents in the upper right corner where you can type what you want to search for.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:56, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox

Hi! Sorry, but what is a sandbox?Megaraptor12345 (talk) 16:52, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Megaraptor12345. "Sandbox" is a fairly common term in the programming world for "a more or less private area where somebody can try things out". In Wikipedia, it refers to a page in your user space, where you can for example create a draft of an article. Your sandbox would be User:Megaraptor12345/sandbox (which is a red link, because that does not yet exist). Or you can have a named sandbox, so if you wanted to create an article about somebody called Joe Bloggs, one way of doing it would be to create it initially in User:Megaraptor12345/Joe Bloggs. These would not be strictly private - anybody can see them, and edit them - but the convention is that unless you did something seriously bad like a copyright violation or an attack on somebody, nobody else would edit your sandbox without permission. You can find more about this in Help: My sandbox. --ColinFine (talk) 17:05, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much!Megaraptor12345 (talk) 17:16, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a pdf where I can download the page and its rules subpages?

Is there a way I can get a PDF file for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies_and_guidelines , and its sub pages?HondaS2200fan (talk) 16:35, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi HondaS2200fan you can download each of the pages separately using the "download as pdf" option in the menu in the left margin, or you can create a "Book" in which you first collect all the pages you want and then download them as a single pdf file, also in the left margin menu. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:20, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks from doorknob747 — Preceding unsigned comment added by HondaS2200fan (talk • contribs) 17:21, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

free press

Hi I have entered the query "free press", but "There were no results matching the query".

Please tell me Wikipedia policies to protect the content of its articles. There are many countries around the world with limited press freedom. The use of corrupted articles as source will corrupt the contents of wikipedia as well. Should I give any examples?

Thank you Melaniapomante (talk) 16:11, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Melaniapomante. Pages about how Wikipedia itself works are generally held in a different place from "Article space", and have names starting with "Wikipedia:" or "WP:". So, for example WP:Reliability will answer some of your questions.

But there isn't an article in Wikipedia space about "free press", because that is not really a concept which is relevant to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not the press: it is not journalism, and it is not (much) about the news. Since most articles can be edited by anybody in the world, they are susceptible to being compromised by organisations, publicity machines, governments, zealots for a cause, and vandals. The main protection against this is all the people who are watching them, and particularly those who watch the latest changes; but sometimes distortions (whether vandalism or deliberate spin) get through and survive, sometimes for a long time. This leads to the other kind of protection, which is WP:Verifiability. In principle, every single claim in a Wikipedia article should be individually referenced to a reliable published source; if it is important to the reader, for any reason, to be sure that the article is accurate, they can consult the source. In practice, unfortunately there is much in Wikipedia that is not referenced, mostly because it was added before we were so careful about sources. So Wikipedia is imperfect.

Your use of the phrase "free press" suggests to me that you are mostly concerned about organised censorship or misinformation from governments or other powerful organisations: we cannot prove that this is not happening, and in some contentious articles it is clear that there are groups of editors with a view to promote, who may or may not be organised. But in most cases, the mechanisms I have discussed above let us keep the articles factual and neutral. --ColinFine (talk) 16:56, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We do have an article on freedom of the press.--ukexpat (talk) 17:15, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia also has a disambiguation page titled free press, so I am not sure what error the OP is having, because we have a page at that title. --Jayron 32 23:16, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

finding out what happened to my section

I added a section to the Wikipedia article on mold that talked about the use of mold by artists in art works. Now the section appears to be gone. Can I find out if it was deliberately deleted by a person?69.230.179.120 (talk) 15:20, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@69.230.179.120: You can look through the history of the article Mold by clicking the "View history" tab to find out who removed your text, and then ask them on their User Talk page. I did a brief search myself, and I can find no evidence of the section you are talking about. But if you know when you added it, you can work out when it was removed by using the "View history" tab. --Jayron 32 15:24, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the section was removed by Dr.K. with this edit on 26 December 2014. As Jayron suggests, the best course is to ask them why they did it. The comment at the time was "not notable", and it may have to do with the complete lack of references to support the section.--Gronk Oz (talk) 16:05, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, 69.230.179.120. I agree with Gronk Oz about the possible cause. A good rule of thumb is to remember that every single claim in a Wikipedia article should be individually referenced to a published reliable source - and I mean "every". It is true that there is a lot of material in Wikipedia that doesn't meet that standard, but it's mostly been there a long time: we tend to be much more careful now with newly-introduced material. --ColinFine (talk)

How can I get this published in Wikipedia?

I have updated the draft for Florence Morse Kingsley located at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Florence_Morse_Kingsley#Professional_life

Much of her work is still available even though it was written a century ago. Not sure if it meets Wikipedia's standards. Let me know. Regards, Sfo1980 Sfo1980 (talk) 14:46, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Sfo1980: I have chosen to interpret your words as your desire to submit the draft for review, and have done so for you. Please continue to improve the draft while awaiting the forts review. This is an iterative process, and may well push the draft back for further attention before any acceptance. Fiddle Faddle 15:27, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Programming Language

I have been part of wikipedia for over a month and until now have exclusively used The visual editor however after taking everything into account i want to expand my abilities by being able to write article by editing the source code rather than using however i have to recognise which programming language Wikipedia uses as this is unlike HTML so can any assist me by helping get acquainted with this language pleaseCreator Xavier (talk) 11:02, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Xavier. Wikipedia, whilst it will recognise many HTML commands, is written in wikimarkup, which is dead easy to learn - many editors, myself included, use nothing else for editing. The cheatsheet will show you most of the major commands. Have a go in the sandbox, and see what you make of it. Yunshui ^雲 _水 11:18, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I find wikimarkup so easy (except for tables!) that I often wish my word processor could parse it! It just takes some practice and a lot of looking at how it has been done on existing pages. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:27, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I now have to restrain myself from using double single quotes to italicize something and from using ~~~~ to sign my posts elsewhere on the Internet. Deor (talk) 19:21, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

if i use main topic name used in wiki database/article...?

I create one article name Songs Type... in which i used genres like hip-hop,rock,jazz etc. which are main topic name and their content are different from wiki database... but when i submitted that article then its told me "Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at 'Genres of music' instead.". but i used only main topic name not all content... so i am confused , i can't used any universal name like jazz,hip-hop in my article..?Havan123 (talk) 10:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Havan. What the reviewer is saying is that we already have an article discussing different types of song, at Genres of music. It would be silly for Wikipedia to have two separate articles which cover virtually the same topic, and so your draft is never likley to be turned into an actual article. They are suggesting that you edit the Genres of music page instead. For information on how to edit pages, please see the tutorial. Yunshui ^雲 _水 10:45, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The "notability" is specifically about whether a stand alone article should exist. However the concept "undue weight" is the similar concept for article content. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:46, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

is notability issues only for the references or for the content as well?

Hello,

Can someone help me improve my article so it get published?

This is the link to my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:RIAS_insurance The article has been declined twice due to notability issues however I am not sure if the content is correct and the only issue are my references. Also can I reference a source that you need to subscribe to view?

Thank you very much!80.0.219.171 (talk) 10:02, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, 80.0.219.171. The problem is not whether the information is correct: it is whether the subject is notable (in Wikipedia's sense), which means that people unconnected with the subject have thought it worth writing at length about the subject, and had their writing published in reliable places. You could include a hundred and fifty impeccable sources that show that the company exists, is registered with various bodies, and has advertised certain products: none of these would establish that it is notable.

Another way to think about this is that every single assertion in a Wikipedia article should be drawn directly from a reliable published source; and apart from uncontroversial factual data like dates and names, it should come from sources unconnected with the subject. If don't have such independent sources, or they say no more than the very basic facts, then there is literary nothing that you can put in the article! --ColinFine (talk) 10:41, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also, yes you can use sources that require a subscription/payment to view, or sources in foreign languages. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:49, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Song Licks.

I would like to be able to play the 'licks' or 'splashes' in the Smokie song Living Next Door To Alice. Can someone show me the chords please. I use a capo on the 3rd fret, and play in the key of 'C'. I can do the run up to the 'lick' but I can't find out how to make those catchy little 'splashes'. Thanks so much.Bernard Tyrone Jewell (talk) 09:31, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Bernard Tyrone Jewell. I'm afraid you're asking in the wrong place: this page is for help with editing Wikipedia. You might find somebody who can help you at the Entertainment section of the Wikipedia Reference Desk, but I think you'll probably do better finding a forum for guitar players. --ColinFine (talk) 10:33, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User Profile Help

Hello,

I've only recently joined the community and I'm not really sure how to go about creating a good user profile. Are there certain things that must be included? Can it be as brief or detailed as possible and is it just text you write?

Thank you, Hadley Hadley-hodgson (talk) 09:20, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is up to you how you want the info should be displayed. Your userpage can have limited autobiographical and personal content if you desire. You can leave it blank. Some users don't even create it. Some redirect it to their talk page.
This is all that you can have at your user page. BUT Userspace is not a free web host and should not be used to indefinitely host pages that look like articles. Just don't violate any copyright. And don't use any non-free content.

Significant editing disclosures.
Notes related to your Wikipedia work and activities.
Work in progress or material that you may come back to in future (usually on subpages).
Useful links, tools, and scripts.
User space archives.
Matters that are long enough, or active enough, to allocate them a page of their own.
Personal writings suitable within the Wikipedia community.
Experimentation (usually on subpages).
Limited autobiographical content.

And A small and proportionate amount of suitable unrelated material!
Have a look at the guidelines at WP:USER.
aGastya ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 09:29, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Howdy Hadley-hodgson. Click on a few usernames that you see on this page to see what others have done. If you want to get fancy, there is a User page design center to help you make yours fancy, if that's your desire. Have fun, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·ʇuoɔ) WER 01:42, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Any Specific reason?

Messi's article has the portals listed on the article page. But The Tower House does not?
aGastya ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 07:17, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Acagastya:: No, there is no reason. Remember that Wikipedia has no central authority making decisions. Every single article was created by random people from the world who just showed up and started making contributions in their own way. Where you see that one particular article has some difference from another article, that's because those two articles were created by entirely different sets of people. If you'd like to make it your job to institute some uniformity where you think it may be needed (for example, adding portals to the Tower House article), then feel free to. If no one objects, it's a fine thing to do. If someone does object, invite them into a discussion, listen to what they have to say, and arrive at a consensus on how to proceed. That's all how Wikipedia works. No one is in charge of making decisions for the entire encyclopedia, you don't need permission from anybody to make an article better as you see fit, and if someone disagrees with something you did, stop and talk it out with them. That's pretty much Wikipedia in a nutshell. --Jayron 32 14:19, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How to create my company page in wikipedia?

How to create my company page in wikipedia?(Diaspark123 (talk) 07:15, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Don't. You have a conflict of interest when editing Wikipedia on the subject of a company that you own or work for, and if you don't already know your way around Wikipedia, creating such an article will probably result in:

the article being deleted
your account being blocked

I'm sorry to be so blunt, but that tends to be the way things work here. Wikipedia isn't a business directory: not every company meets the inclusion requirements. You might want to read the FAQs for businesses as well.

However, there is nothing to stop you editing Wikipedia on other subjects. Spend six months working on other articles, and you will probably amass enough wiki-experience to know whether or not you can legitimately create an article about your company. If you have no other purpose on Wikipedia, though, you need to reconsider - try an alternative outlet, instead. Yunshui ^雲 _水 07:22, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Diaspark123 hello and welcome to The Teahouse. You can also request that the article be created. WP:RA tells you how to do this. Be sure to supply independent reliable sources that have written extensively about the company with a neutral point of view, if you can. If you cannot, we can't have an article on the company. If you can, the article wizard is another option, but Yunshui gives good advice if you want to do it yourself.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:19, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can't find text for References

When I click on [edit] next to References here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370#References

I am only seeing a small part of the list. How do I find the rest of it?

ZermattMan (talk) 06:41, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ZermattMan and welcome to the Teahouse. For many articles, you typically only see the template {{reflist}} when you click on "Edit" next to the "References" section. That template just tells the software to list all the references cited throughout the article in the "References" section. To see an individual reference, just go to its footnote marker (i.e., the location where it is used in the article) and click on that section's edit button. If you want to see all of the references being used in the article, just go to the top of the page and click on "Edit". Scroll down through the editing window looking for the syntax <ref>....</ref>. That syntax marks all of the references being cited in the article. You can get more detailed information at Help:Footnotes or Wikipedia:Inline citation. Hope that helps. - Marchjuly (talk) 07:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that info.

I see I was looking for something that does not exist! The text version of the "complete reference list".

Thanks again for your speedy response.

ZermattMan (talk) 23:02, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

government created photos

I thought that I read somewhere that photographs from a government are free use, but maybe that is just from the US government and I cannot find the reference again. I am trying to find photos from Hacienda Chichén. There are tons of photos on the archeological site, but I cannot find ones for the hacienda except on the web site for the hotel and on a government web site created by the State of Yucatán. Does anyone know if the government use is for any government? SusunW (talk) 05:11, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse, SusunW. Photos taken by employees of the U.S. Federal government are made available entirely copyright free, but each government agency including U.S. states and municipalities makes its own decisions about copyright status, based on legislation or regulations. The same applies to other countries and their states and provinces. You need to check with the State of Yucatan about the copyright status of the photos on their website. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:24, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. SusunW (talk) 05:27, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My article is not visible

Hi, I was working with an organization called as Total Environment and I wish to make a wiki page about the founder of the organization. I was in touch with a wiki host and as suggested by the host I have submitted the article using the wizard. What should I do next as I need support from Wikipedia as I am on a tight schedule. The host had told me that the references that I have put are good. Please help Te-mktg (talk) 04:27, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse, Te-mktg. Your "tight schedule" is of no concern to us here on Wikipedia, because we are a volunteer project with no deadlines. I am waiting and hoping patiently for a review right now of an article I have been working on for four years. When I look at your edit history, all I see is two edits to the Teahouse. So please give us a link to your draft article, and maybe a Teahouse host will take a look. If we so choose, that is, and not because of your impatience. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:38, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay first my apologies. I am not impatient but I get what you are trying to say. The concern is that I don't know how to give you the link for my draft article. Please suggest where do I find it. I was chatting with a wiki host and he gave me fantastic help but after taking his help and submitting my article I have not understood what would happen next. Please tell me where do I search for what you need from me.

Hello Te-mktg. If you are referring to Kamal Sagar then that article appears to be a copyright violation. Anything you submit here must be original writing in your own words. Brief cited quotes in quotation marks are allowed but must be a small percentage of the content. Do not submit copied content again, please. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Using an Interview

Hi, I am writing a Wikipedia article on a significant female architect in Australia as an assignment for university. It is to help disseminate the histories of female architects, which is often overlook due to gender equity issues within the profession. For this exact reason information on her personal life, not her different projects, is for the most part non existent from 3rd party sources. We (myself and partners) have interviewed said architect and would like to use this information from the interview in the article. However after reading through Wikipedia NOR policy and about questionable and self-publishes sources I am curious on whether I will be able to use the information. How would I be able to make it verifiable? For example all the sources we do have, such as newspaper articles, don't have information such as her date of birth ect. She has told us her date of birth in the interview though.PythagorasJohnson (talk) 03:05, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse, PythagorasJohnson. Your unpublished interview is original research which can't be used in a Wikipedia article. The solution is straightforward: write an article based on your interview and submit it to a respected architectural journal. Once published, that article can be cited in the Wikipedia biography. Uncontroversial information such as date of birth can be cited to the architect's own website, but not any assessments such as "Australia's best woman architect" or anything like that. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:49, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How to edit my username?

How to edit username? Or how to change the username? Is there any facility to get any username? Please help! Avani ❝ Want to say something? Go On!❞ 21:31, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple- you can change it to anything that isn't taken, or too similar to an existing username. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:34, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I want to change it to Avani22. I wanted it when I created the account. But it seems to be taken. What to do? Avani ❝ Want to say something? Go On!❞ 21:48, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you go to Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations, then you can request usurpation of their name (i.e. you take that username, and they get a new username)- not really sure of the process though. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:55, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

According to this, they haven't made any edits, so I'm pretty sure you can try a usurpation. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:56, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nigeria different President

Please, change the name of the President of Nigeria because he is the other one — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.28.187.253 (talk) 19:08, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On Nigeria, it says that Muhammadu Buhari is the President-Elect, which is correct. According to sources, such as [1], [2], [3], Buhari will be sworn in on 29 May- that's when he officially becomes President. Until then, Goodluck Jonathan is still President according to sources. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:13, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually when going to the Nigerian page everything seems to be as you would want. Both Buhari and Goodluck Jonathan are mentioned in their respective positions

Rthakker (talk) 02:18, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How to correct a Missing or Empty | title

When I click on the EDIT link for the References, in order to correct the Missing or Empty | title by inserting the title (which was easily found), I get a box that says References but does not have the already present references. What am I doing wrong? The page in question is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Mateo_County_Board_of_Supervisors . Thanks. RitaBook (talk) 18:20, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi RitaBook, the references section just contains the place-holder for the reference list {{reflist}}, the actual references are incline as <ref>..</ref> entries. If you click the hat/caret/up arrow next to the number of the reference it takes you to the location, you then have to edit that location to fix. I've fixed it for you here so look at what I did if it does not make sense. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:58, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for doing the fix, KylieTastic, but at first blush that looked like the fish, broiled and plated, instead of a lesson on how to bait the hook! My problem - which I didn't explain clearly in the first round - was that I couldn't find a way to EDIT the top paragraph that contained the superscript 1 which in turn had the Missing or Empty tag. Other paragraphs in the article had the word EDIT next to the headings but not the top paragraph. Finally (yes, the word "duh" comes to mind) I noticed that above the name of the article, on the right, is an edit tab. I clicked on that and now am able to enjoy your delicious fish. I'm explaining all this in case some other newbie wants to edit a first footnote and is as stumped as I was. In any event: many, many thanks! RitaBook (talk)

Hello, RitaBook. Yes, editing the first section is a puzzle to a lot of people. There are two answers. Either you can pick Edit tab at the top, and edit the whole article in one go; or else you can turn on a gadget for your account that will give you an edit link before the first section: Pick "Preferences", then "Gadgets", and the section "Appearance". I think this is a hold-over from long ago, when editing the whole page was the only possibility: when editing individual sections was introduced, it was not available for the first section, perhaps so as not to be confused with the 'Edit' tab. I think this gadget should be on by default now, but as far as I know it isn't. --ColinFine (talk) 21:49, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, ColinFine. I will turn on that gadget!RitaBook (talk) 14:11, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if it is dependant on the aforementioned gadget, but I have an option on the pull down menu labeled "page" called "edit top" that also gets you there. John from Idegon (talk) 00:08, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

a page for a visual art exhibition

i want to create a page on Wikipedia for a visual art exhibition that opened in Cairo Nov 2014 and went to Helsinki in march 2015..it is an on going project..is that acceptable here on Wikipedia? and there will be no major references to it maybe some online articles written on it and pictures.... EgyptianWomenArtist (talk) 17:32, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If it passes WP:GNG it has a place here. To prove it we use references. We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42. Without references of this nature, however pleasant the exhibition is, we cannot accept it. Fiddle Faddle 18:13, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG - Please listen to what Fiddle Faddle said. Most new articles apply to this rule.TeacherWikipedia (talk) 08:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Create a new Wiki Article

Greetings! I'm wondering how to about transferring work from my sandbox to a blank page with a proposed title to make a new Wikipedia article. Thanks!Chsumusic (talk) 16:49, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, the page you are looking for is Help:Moving pages, don't worry though, I've already moved it into draft space for you so you can submit it to WP:AfC. IF you have any questions feel free to ask. Winner 42 Talk to me! 17:14, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The original poster has also created BOP Studios, an article that appears to be about the same subject as Draft:Bophuthatswana Recording Studios.--ukexpat (talk) 17:29, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Citations for Valeri Larko article

I have been asking for assistance in the Talk section about the current banner appearing at the head of my Valeri Larko article, but have not gotten any response. The banner requests additional verifiable citations for the article, which I have provided. The article is very well sourced, and now contains 23 footnoted citations, far more than similar articles on Wikipedia about living artists. I am a professor of Art and Art History at a college in New York, experienced in academic and encyclopedic writing and the inportance of citations, so having this banner appear above the article puzzles me. How can I have the banner removed? Thanks for any assistance. Ann1aptAnn1apt (talk) 14:54, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the tag and made a few clean up edits.--ukexpat (talk) 15:23, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse, Ann1apt. When you edit any article that has a maintenance tag, and you correct the underlying issue, then you should simply remove the wikicode that generated the tag. If the tag is at the top of the article, the wikicode for the tag will be at the top of the code. You do not need to ask for permission from anyone. Just do it yourself. Thanks for helping to improve Wikipedia. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:10, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A well known canadian company needs to put up its profile on wiki

Hello,

This is for a Canadian firm who wants its own Wikipedia profile page. I have recently joined as an editor and am having the following trouble:

I have edited two articles so far and a month is over and I am still to be auto confirmed. Therefore, I am having trouble uploading the logo image of the company that I have mentioned in my subject.

I also want you to take a look at my submission of the company profile here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Urbashi_Chatterjee/sandbox and let me know if this is gonna work for wiki.

I look forward to reeceiving help from you.

Thanks

Urbashi Chatterjee (talk) 12:23, 30 April 2015 (UTC)UrbashiUrbashi Chatterjee (talk) 12:23, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Urbashi Chatterjee: Do you work for this company? Or are you being paid to create this article? Also, companies don't have profile pages, they have encyclopedic articles about them, if and only if they meet WP:GNG and WP:CORP- and their definition of "need a page" may not comply with Wikipedia's notability definitions. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Joseph2302: Neither do I work for this company nor am I getting paid for the job. I am an aspiring wiki editor myself and therefore was asked if I could help in this matter. This company meets all the requirements as you have mentioned: WP:GNG and WP:CORP- and is a very recognized retailer in the Canadian market.

Urbashi Chatterjee (talk) 13:11, 30 April 2015 (UTC)UrbashiUrbashi Chatterjee (talk) 13:11, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay that's good that's you're not an involved editor- I like to check, since quite a few people are, and it can make them harder to work with. Looking at the sources, most of them seem good, there's quite a few reliable sources. I'm going to give a longer reply on your sandbox talkpage, User talk:Urbashi Chatterjee/sandbox. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:20, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Urbashi Chatterjee: It would not be acceptable if it is just for pure advertising purposes. Please restate your reason.TeacherWikipedia (talk) 08:46, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

inline citation

hello i am a new user. I put up an article called SHEROES.in and i got a warning saying the links to articles lack inline citations. Can someone please help me go about this problem before the page gets deleted? As the links and information are from rather reliable sources, helping me cite them could solve the problem. Littlegliff (talk) 10:31, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Littlegliff. I wrote this essay for people in exactly your situation; hopefully it will help. Yunshui ^雲 _水 10:35, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

how to write a page about a company

how do i create a page for a new companyJoseph wambugu (talk) 09:39, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Joseph. The answer is, you probably don't - new companies very rarely meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, as they haven't been around long enough to develop the depth of coverage needed for an article here. Wikipedia is not, despite what SEO"experts" might tell you, a business directory, and we emphatically don't include articles about any and every company. If you can locate enough sources to prove that the company you want to write about does in fact meet the guidelines, then I would suggest you use the article wizard to get started, but bear in mind that an article without sufficient evidence of notability will be deleted fairly quickly. Yunshui ^雲 _水 09:54, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

Is a song used in advertisement of World Cup-2015 (WDL by Bob's Beat) notable?
aGastya ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 07:15, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

From what I can see, the artist doesn't appear to have a Wikipedia article. Is there significant, independent reliable sources showing that this song was important? I did a search, and apart from links to the Youtube video or lyrics, I only found 1 newspaper article about it, here.

To other users, by World Cup, they mean the 2015 Cricket World Cup (many sports have World Cups this year). Joseph2302 (talk) 10:36, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Joseph2302: yes it is for Cricket world cup. So is it notable?
aGastya ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 10:56, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

1 and 2 These two (of which second one is a newspaper) have the article.
aGastya ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 11:03, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Page not conforming to guidelines?

Hi, I created my first page ([[4]]) and this was my first contribution. I received a message saying that the article may not be retained due to not meeting certain guideleins, but it didn't specify what exactly was the problem. Could anyone tell me what it is? Thanks for any help! Dreeter2 (talk) 03:46, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Dreeter2:, and welcome to the Teahouse. The problem is that the building does not appear to be "notable" (in the special Wikipedia sense of the word). At the top of the article (Harding Band Building) is the notice about the proposed deletion, and it includes a link to the discussion here. According to that link, the article was proposed because the subject is a "non notable building on a college campus". In other words, that building itself does not meet the criteria for being notable (see WP:GNG for an explanation of those criteria). Individual buildings on campus mostly do not warrant their own stand-alone articles, and the proposal goes on to suggest that the information in this article could be incorporated into the article about the school. If you can find extensive coverage of this building in independent, reliable sources then by all means describe them at the deletion discussion; otherwise, the best approach would be to merge it into University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign.--Gronk Oz (talk) 06:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

deleting of article

Hi, Someone deleted my article about SRAD claiming it was advertisement. I do not agree with that is quite stupid. The article was only informing what it and what is the functions of the device!! I never used any names of the company in the article. Can I report person who deleted article and ask him to repost it again Pannamigotka86 (talk) 19:38, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently it was deleted by @Smartse: deleted it, so you need to speak to them. Also, just because you disagree with someone doesn't make them wrong- admins are experienced editors, so it's unlikely their decision was "stupid". Joseph2302 (talk) 19:41, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You might not have mentioned any company names in the text but the only references were to the crowdfunder page for a company and the company's own website as well as external links to a YouTube posting by the company and their Facebook page. That's the promotional element. Nthep (talk) 19:51, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to speak with him but I can't find the option how. I am new on the wiki.

hypothetically if company created/discovered a new device and got full patent rights to produce it and introduce on the market, we can't use it in Wikipedia?? Do we need to write whole book about it to be able to sources ?Pannamigotka86 (talk) 20:01, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, we need other people not related to the company to write about it to produce what can be used as independent, reliable sources that establish the notability of the company and/or the product that is being written about. Nthep (talk) 20:17, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So in other words the other peoples need need to write a book about it and publish. And by the why someone assuming that I am related to this particular company. Pannamigotka86 (talk) 20:26, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pannamigotka86 hello and welcome to The Teahouse. A book would likely be a good source, but more likely a reputable newspaper or magazine. If Smartse does not repsond here, you can post on User talk:Smartse. Click on "new section" at the top.

It is common that people writing articles that appear to be promotional are writing about a company they are connected to. This is not always the case. No one accused you, however, but we require sources ot connected with the company in order to be sure of a neutral point of view.

To get a copy of the article that you can improve in your user space, go to WP:REFUND.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:07, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Vchimpanzee: Please note that at WP:REFUND we generally turn away all requests to undelete pages deleted under G11, as overturning such deletions is controversial, and the page is only for uncontroversial requests (they're also usually blatant and 3/4 are also undiscovered copyvios). One part of this is also that, while the page is also for requests to userfy, almost no one actually makes that type of request, even though it is far more likely that responders there would userfy an A7 or G11, as opposed to straight undeletion. So if you tell people the above, you might want to say something about asking specifically for userfication or the request is unlikely to be accepted.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:24, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If I would found, what you call "independent sources" would I be able to publish the article again? And how to establish, according to Wikipedia standards, if the source is independent? Pannamigotka86 (talk) 08:07, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's obvious that Pannamigotka86 is an disclosed paid editor e.g. at Catherine Ajike and as such, I considered an article about a new product with essentially zero sources to meet G11. I've had another look at it and am still happy I made the right decision. It's not suitable for userification IMO, but if you want to ask at WP:REFUND please do. SmartSE (talk) 09:51, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fuhghettaboutit thank you. I'll try to remember what has been said here when I suggest WP:REFUND.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:23, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Probably worth noting that Pannamigotka86 has been indefinitely blocked for "advertising or self-promoting in violation of the conflict of interest and notability guidelines". Joseph2302 (talk) 22:27, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In correct township listing

I was on google maps earlier today and came across some wrong information that is referenced on your website. I have filed error reports with google maps as well. We have worked diligently with google maps in the past in order to keep our roads and maps as up-to-date as possible.

Your website talks about Florence County, Wisconsin.

It correctly lists: Towns: Aurora, Commonwealth, Fence, Fern, Florence, Homestead, Long Lake and Tipler

It incorrectly lists: Unincorporated communities: Aurora, Commonwealth, Fence, Fern, Hematite, Pulp, Ridgetop, Spread Eagle, Tipler, Tyran

The errors: - None of the Townships within Florence County are incorporated. - Of the unincorporated communities that are listed on your website there are certain names that do not actually exist: o Hematite o Pulp o Ridgetop o Tyran - Spread Eagle is part of the Town of Florence. It is generally considered to be an area located on the map how it shows up in google maps.

Please help us clean-up the records for the Town. If you have any questions, please contact us.

71.13.109.154 (talk) 18:55, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Much of our geographical data comes from the US Census Bureau and the Geographical Names Information System of the United States Geological Survey. For example this page describes Hematite.

It would be useful if you can point us to a reliable source that lists exhaustively the communities, towns and other settlements in Florence. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:11, 29 April 2015 (UTC).

Improving a wiki article

On the top of my article, it has a message that says "this article has multiple issues. Please help improve it" What does this mean?

How do make a content box with the headings and dividers?

Here's a link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efrem_Smith Dawsonvj (talk) 18:18, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dawsonvj as the box goes onto say the article is a dead end. it doesn't contain any links to other Wikipedia articles and no other articles like to it. You should try and find appropriate links to place so that these issues are resolved.

A table of contents will be automatically added after there are at least three section headings are added to the article. Nthep (talk) 18:51, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So I find links to other wiki pages and put it under what part? I submitted the article with bold headings and there are four headingsDawsonvj (talk) 18:57, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dawsonvj welcome back. W.carter has taken care of the problems in your article. Whether other articles now link to Efrem Smith I don't know.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:15, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Vchimpanzee: Yep, there are now. Taken care of too. :) w.carter-Talk 21:17, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(ec)And I remembered how to check, but thanks.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:22, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

references

Hi, is there a tool or a way that I can press a button and have references formatted properly for me? 3gg5amp1e (talk) 18:05, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please see User:Zhaofeng Li/reFill for details. I see it as a link in the left hand margin under "Tools" Fiddle Faddle 18:15, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx Timmy, are there any other tools you can recommend for article improvement? I found a tag for "This article is an Orphan", is there a tool to check that and remove it? I love tools, anything that you can recommend that might improve my editing ability would be cool! 3gg5amp1e (talk) 19:07, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Someone on IRC pointed me to a really cool tool for fixing orphans called User:Technical 13/Scripts/OrphanStatus. Are there any other tools like this to help improve the encyclopedia? 3gg5amp1e (talk) 02:21, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

could someone help me in finding and citing appropriate references

I have been working on a page about a living author that has been rejected for issues with references. Could someone point of the specific issues? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Michael_J._Tougias thank you 3AlisonO (talk) 16:58, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@3AlisonO:Hello, it appears that while your references are to good reliable sources, they are formatted in a way that is more suitable for traditional publications rather than Wikipedia. You might be interested in Help:Referencing for beginners which is a guide to adding references to Wikipedia. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask! Winner 42 Talk to me! 17:04, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It would also help if you included links to the on-line versions of the articles, so people can see what the article actually says. Although "dead-tree" sources are acceptable, particularly for older topics, the first reference I looked at, The Boston Globe, is on-line, and I suspect the others are too. - Arjayay (talk) 17:14, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Add new company

Hello, I'm new on wiki. Want to add company page. Anyone please guide me and the process . It's web hosting company like namecheap . Turborx15 (talk) 14:38, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Turborx15. If the company is notable - which means that there are several substantial articles about the company in reliable sources like major newspapers that are written by people completely unconnected with the company - then Wikipedia can have an article on it. This article must be entirely based on published information, nearly all based on information published by sources unconnected with the company, and written as a neutral summary of the information which has been published by these sources. It should not look even a little bit like a promotional piece for the company, and should contain no evaluative language at all, unless this is directly taken from a published source unconnected with the company. If there are reliable sources critical of the company, the article should summarise these as well.

If there are such sources as I have mentioned, you are welcome to try writing the article. If you have any connection with the company, you should declare your conflict of interest, and expect your work to be reviewed very carefully. I advise you to start by reading your first article, and if you want to go ahead, to use the article wizard to create your draft. --ColinFine (talk) 16:57, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your messages and advice. The number of pictures has been reduced and the wording edited. I will be grateful for any other tips. Thanks in advance. Aknel3ova (talk) 07:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Could anyone please check my article?

Hello, could anyone please help and check the draft of an article on the interactive exhibitions project Orbis Pictus Play? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Orbis_Pictus_Play A lot of work has been done, but I would appreciate if someone else could check it before re-submitting the article to the editor. Thank you! Aknel3ova (talk) 13:13, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Aknel3ova hello and welcome to The Teahouse. I do still see some problems with the wording. I just took a quick look and "the editor" (that could be anyone) might see more wrong. Unless you are directly quoting a reliable source, don't use "bring them to life, set them in motion and make them ring out" and "one’s creativity and invention come to the fore".— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Aknel3ova, wow you really are a good photographer! Howevever, the pictures you uploaded for the article at the Commons had no categories and there are simply too many of them in the article. There should be a balance between pictures and text. Now, I have created a new category for the exhibition at the Commons and gathered the pictures there. You need to select three pictures that are to be displayed in the article itself, the rest will be available to the reader via the clickable link at the bottom of the page to that category in the Commons. Check it out. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 22:19, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your messages and advice. The number of pictures in the article has been reduced and the wording edited. I will be grateful for any other comments and tips. Thanks in advance. Aknel3ova (talk) 07:59, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

want to create page for my company CEO

hi, I want to create wiki page for my company ceo ( edelweiss group ) His name is Rashesh Shah details i want to put is

Long draft article here

Rashesh Shah

• 1 Personal life and education • 2 Career • 3 Recognition • 4 Memberships

Rashesh Shah is Chairman and CEO, Edelweiss Group, one of India’s leading diversified financial services with businesses ranging across Financial Markets (Institutional Markets, Capital Markets & Investment Banking), Credit (Housing & Retail Finance), Commodities, Asset Management and Life Insurance. Rashesh founded Edelweiss in 1995 and today the group advises over 545,000 clients through 237 offices in 123 cities across the world. §Personal life and education Shah did his initial schooling at Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan and Manav Mandir High School in Mumbai. He has a degree in Business Administration from Indian Institute of Management (IIM), Ahmedabad. He also holds a Diploma in International Trade from the Indian Institute of Foreign Trade (IIFT), New Delhi and a Bachelor's Degree in Science from the University of Mumbai, India. Shah resides in Mumbai, India and is a voracious reader, a fitness enthusiast and an avid runner. He is married to Vidya Shah, CEO and founder of EdelGive Foundation, the philanthropy arm of Edelweiss. They have two children, a son Neel, and a daughter, Avanti. §Career Shah started his career as a management trainee at ICICI Bank in 1989. In 1993, he moved to Prime Securities, a boutique bank as head of research and investments. It was a good stepping stone into entrepreneurship. Shah quit Prime Securities in 1995 to explore an opportunity to set up a new age financial services company for a new India. In 1996, after 8 months of conceptualising, he set up Edelweiss with Venkat Ramaswamy, a colleague from ICICI. In the first four years, Shah and the team did a lot of advisory work and helped internet and BPO companies like Tranworks, Indiainfoline, Daksh, Educomp raise capital. The company broke even in 1998, March and the team was all of 5 people. Between 1999 and 2007, Shah focussed on broadening the company’s Financial Markets portfolio, especially Investment Banking (institutional and HNI) and Wholesale Businesses. Hiring and getting the right people on board was the first key focus area for him during this phase of the company’s growth. The second focus area was raising the strategic capital to enable the company to go Public. The second growth phase of the company was between 2007 and 2014, during which Shah’s strategy was to diversify into and build the company’s new retail businesses – Credit ( wholesale and retail ) , Commodities, Insurance and Asset Management. He also looked at strengthening the balance sheet and laying the foundation for the Enterprise functions. Today, under Shah’s leadership, Edelweiss has combined growth oriented entrepreneurship with a strong focus on risk and has one of the most broad-based employee-ownership models among financial services companies in India.

§Recognition Among the several accolades that Shah has been personally awarded, are the ‘Entrepreneur of the Year’ award from Bombay Management Association (2008-2009), ‘Alumnus of the Year’ from IIFT in 2008 and very recently ‘The Bull of Year’ Award at Zee Business Market Analyst Awards 2015. Under his leadership, Edelweiss has received numerous awards, some of the recent ones being, consecutively ranked ‘India’s Best Managed Mid Cap Company’ and ‘India’s Best Managed Company (upto US$500 million market cap)’ by Finance Asia in 2013 & 2014 respectively. Edelweiss has also been awarded ‘Best Corporate Governance, India’ by Capital Finance International, London, UK in 2013. §Memberships A regular commentator on financial markets, policy, and development matters in the mainline and financial media, Rashesh serves on the Boards of various companies and public institutions and has also served on the Executive Committee of the National Stock Exchange of India Ltd., India's premiere securities exchange. He has in the past served on the Executive Committee of the National Stock Exchange of India Ltd. and presently serves as Chairman, Maharashtra Council of FICCI. He currently also serves on the SEBI committee to review the Insider Trading Regulation12:33, 29 April 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhavisha86 (talk • contribs)

Welcome, @Bhavisha86:. If you work for someone, then first you have what's called a conflict of interest, so I would strongly recommend reading WP:COI, also Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations is helpful too. Also, Wikipedia is not a social network, so not everyone can have an article- they must have significent, independent, reliable sources showing their notability, so that they pass the criteria at WP:GNG and/or WP:BIO. Advice for writing an article is available at Wikipedia: Your first article.

Last of all, this isn't the place for a draft, the appropriate places would be your sandbox, User:Bhavisha86/sandbox or Draft:Rashesh Shah. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:42, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And if he has asked you to create the article, he probably shouldn't have.--ukexpat (talk) 12:53, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

about recruiting new members for the Wikipedia:Wikiproject R&B and Soul Music which has to do with editing

hello this is dfrr here i know i should not be doing this but i would like to know if anyone knows any User who would like to join The R&B wikiproject i mentioned above. i already have a tool on User:Conifer's Talk Page to help me with that but i still need new memebrs. so if anyone wants to join the project you may. you can also leave a message about this on my very own talk page. anyways thank you and have a great dayDfrr (talk) 23:46, 28 April 2015 (UTC)(Talk to me:-))[reply]

Creating user name for Grace Bay Resorts

Hi there,

Can you please assist with the creation of a user page and/or article? While I would prefer to create a user profile to outline the history of the Grace Bay Resort, please let me know if this is unable to occur.

Thank you so much! Katie Lee

KLpollack (talk) 21:19, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if you would clarify your question, please? Fiddle Faddle 21:25, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Katie: you seem to be a little confused. You already have a user account, and so you can create a user page any time you like, by editing User:KLpollack (currently a red link, as it doesn't exist). However, a user page is a page containing any information about yourself that you wish to share (predominantly about yourself as a Wikipedia editor): you may not put anything which looks like an article on it.

If you want to create an article about a subject, you could create it straight in article space, as Grace Bay Resort (that is again a redlink), but I always advise inexperienced users against creating a page in this way, because it is immediately liable to be deleted if it does not establish that the subject is notable. The traditional way to create a draft that you can keep and work on was to use a "user sandbox" (U:KLpollack/sandbox) or "user subpage" U:KLpollack/Grace Bay Resort). This is still a possible route, but the current preferred place for drafts is in draft space, so Draft:Grace Bay Resort. In any case, I would advise you to read your first article, and use the article wizard to create your draft.

One point that might seem nit-picky, but may help you in the long run: Wikipedia does not contain profiles, which are (usually) self-written presentations of a person or organisation, appropriate to a directory or social media site. What it contains are articles which are neutrally written summaries of what reliable sources unconnected with the subject has written about them. They should contain nothing whatever which has not been published in a reliable source (and for most of the content, a source independent of the subject), and the subject has no control over what is included into the article and what isn't. --ColinFine (talk) 22:03, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) Hi Katie. Wikipedia is not for promotion of any kind. I apologize if I'm reading into your post something that it not there, but often when we see a question from a person who's new to Wikipedia and their initial aim is to write about a commercial interest they are usually here because they have a self-interest in seeing coverage of that topic. If that is the case, please note our conflict of interest guidelines, that any edits in which anyone is being paid directly or directly, requires disclosure of the interest by them (See this section of the Terms of Use); and that Wikipedia articles are required to be written using neutral language. You should also know that we only properly have articles on notable topics – topics the world has taken note of by writing about them substantively in reliable, secondary sources that are unconnected with the topic – things like books published by major publishing houses, newspaper articles, magazine write-ups, treatment in peer-reviewed scholarly journals and websites that meet the same requirements as reputable print-based sources, etc., and writing about the topic in some detail (the flip side is that the following sources are not useful to show notability: the topic's own website, its press releases published anywhere, Facebook, blogs, random websites, etc.) Do those sources we want exist? If not, no article should be even attempted. If such sources do exist then an article is possible. User pages are not for listing the history of an organization. If an encyclopedia article belongs at all, then it belongs in the article "mainspace" or in a draft while it being prepared for the mainspace. Many users create drafts through articles for creation. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:26, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Katie Lee. Your original account, User:GraceBayResorts, was blocked because it indicated an affiliation with a company. And your sandbox draft there, User:GraceBayResorts/sandbox, was deleted because it was unambiguously promotional. Some other websites allow companies to create profiles, but Wikipedia is not like that. —teb728 t c 05:26, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Getting the article out of the sandbox, including a picture in article

Hello,

I have prepared a draft of an article for Wikipedia on Kurt Heinrich Meyer. It can be downloaded via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Horstm/sandbox

and I have the following questions :

a) Would it be possible to include in the article a ~1950 photograph of Kurt H. Meyer with two of his graduate students/assistants, one of whom obtained the 1992 Nobel Prize in Medicine (Fischer). I am unable to transfer this picture (its format is jpeg) into this space, its caption is "Kurt H. Meyer with two of his collaborators Roger Boissonas(left) and Edmond Fischer (right) in the free-boundary electrophoresis laboratory (1950)"

b) What is the next step in the processing of the article to get it ready to be a regular Wikipedia article - i.e emerging from the "sandbox" status?

Thank you for your help

Horst MeyerHorstm (talk) 21:13, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest that you ask for reviews on this, the more so since it is not yet ready as an article. Do this by placing {{subst:submit}} at the head. If you are not sure what it does, use the 'Preview' button.

You need references. We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42 Fiddle Faddle 21:22, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In answer to your question about the photo, Horstm, the answer is that in order to be used in an article, the picture must first be uploaded to either Wikimedia Commons or Wikipedia. In order to upload it to Commons (the preferred option), the copyright owner must explicitly have released it under a suitable licence such as CC-BY-SA (or explicitly placed it in the public domain). If you cannot determine who is the copyright owner, then this option almost certainly cannot be used. The second possibility is to upload it to Wikipedia as a "non-free" image. The criteria for being allowed to do this are very strict, and include using the image in precisely one Wikipedia article (not a draft); so that route will not be available until after the article has been reviewed and transferred to article space. Please see upload, donating copyright materials and non-free content criteria for more information. --ColinFine (talk) 21:48, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation pages

I have a question about the disambiguation page OWN TV. My understanding has always been that dab pages are there to help provide clarification for cases where multiple Wikipedia articles with similar names exist; They are mainly intended to be guides and not articles in and of themselves which cite sources, provide external links or other information about stuff located outside of Wikipedia. One of the entries on "OWN TV" appears to be nothing more than self promotion regarding a ~~patent~~ trademark claim and not in accordance, in my opinion, with WP:DABNOT and WP:DABREF. Anyway, I am interested in finding out what other editors think before removing the entry from the page. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 17:26, 28 April 2015 (UTC); Above post edited by Marchjuly to replace "patent" with "trademark" - 17:56, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and have removed it. Looks like the person adding it has done so many times before, and is the owner of that European trademark, but WP:DISAMBIGUATION says disambiguation pages should only contain relevant links to other Wikipedia articles. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:35, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification Joseph2302. - Marchjuly (talk) 17:50, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

New article in Spanish

I would like to create a short article in Spanish based on a pre-existing article in English. The English article has no language links, so I need to be able to make the language link as well as the new article. How do I make a language link?Juandxmurphy (talk) 15:46, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So you want to translate an English Wiki article into Spanish for the Spanish Wiki, correct? If so, you want this guide Help:Interlanguage links. The way it works is like [[:fr:Jeux olympiques]] would link to the article on French Wiki about Jeux olympiques (Olympics Games). Joseph2302 (talk) 15:58, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Juandxmurphy: I think you ask about how to place a link under "Languages" in the left pane. You can do that by first creating the foreign article and then clicking "Edit links" or "Add links" under "Languages" at the English article. Then you should get a box where you can write the foreign name. Joseph2302's [[:fr:Jeux olympiques]] is about how to make a link in wikitext and not under "Languages". For attribution purposes you should do that somewhere at the Spanish article to show it was translated from an English article, but the Spanish Wikipedia may have a specific procedure for that. I don't know Spanish but see es:Plantilla:Traducido de. See also es:Wikipedia:Traducciones. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:35, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

accusation of being person that im writing about

Hi, My name is Faith McNally and I recently did a draft on the actor James Bryhan. As a newbie to Wikipedia, I understand that for me its a learning process with Wikipedia offering to help in any way they can without judgement or bias and offer support in the best way possible so that I can finish and hopefully publish my article. My problem therefore is that Matthew Vanitas who was reviewing my article has accused me of being Mr Bryhan and therefore trying to advertise on Wikipedia. I believe he is acting in a unprofessional manner by making this accusation and based on this, using judgement on my article from a negative standpoint which I thought was not associated with Wikipedia's guidelines. I am simply trying to make a article on a actor for who I think is notable and in doing so, learning how Wikipedia works. I am gratefull for all and any help in doing this, not in being insulted. so I would like my article reviewed , if possible by another and to find out how to make a complaint against Matthew Vanitas who quite clearly believes me to be James Bryhan Revenant2015 (talk) 14:52, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Revenant2015 and welcome to the Teahouse. I think the main thing that is causing the trouble is that you have a lot of facts about James Bryhan on your user page. That page is intended to describe you as an editor on the Wikipedia. See: Wikipedia:User pages. A common misconception among new users is that this page is a kind of "facebook" page where you can write about yourself, and many, many have tried using it to promote themselves. That is why the editor jumped to that conclusion. Please remove the text or it may be removed for you, and use your page the way it is intended. And to make matters worse, you also have info about James Bryhan on your talk page, a page for discussing editing of articles and other things Wikipedia. So a double faux pas that make other editors suspicious. If you want somewhere to doodle and test for writing the article, there is your own sandbox to do that in. A quick Google search shows that there seems to exist one Faith McNally who is a fan of James Bryhan, hopefully you are not so close to him as to have a conflict of interest. Best, w.carter-Talk 16:24, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please calm down, Faith. On the end of a paragraph explaining why the article was not acceptable, MatthewVanitas made the throwaway comment: "Frankly, it really looks like you're just writing about yourself and trying to use Wikipedia as advertising". Maybe could have expressed it more kindly, but that, to me, does not add up to the "accusation" you are complaining of. I concur absolutely with what Matthew has said (apart, perhaps, from that last line). The way I would recommend thinking of it is this: a Wikipedia article, especially one about a living person, should be based entirely on information published in reliable places, and almost entirely on information written and published by people unconnected with the subject; and the sources for everything should be indicated inline. If it hasn't been published, don't put it in the article. If it has only been published in unreliable places like blogs, forums, or Wikipedia (yes, that is what I meant), don't put it in the article. If it has only been published by the subject, their family, their friends, their employers, their agents, their publicists: if it is uncontroversial factual information like dates and places, you can put it in the article, with a reference to the source; otherwise, no. If it has been written about by somebody unconnected with the subject, and published in a reliable place (such as a major newspaper, or a book from a reputable publisher) then you can put it in the article, with an inline reference to the source. Now, is there any substantial information to go in the article? If not, the subject is not notable (in Wikipedia's special sense) and no article on them will be accepted at present.

Your draft starts with two paragraphs of unreferenced facts. That is not acceptable in an article about a living person (please see referencing for beginners for information about how to reference.) Then there is a paragraph with a number of links, some of them garbled (apparently by having links to the draft itself inserted: I don't know why). The Beffta would be acceptable as a reference for the fact that he was nominated for that award, but nothing more. The Halesowen News link might be regarded as reliable (though local papers are a bit borderline for that) - but it doesn't say anything about him other than that he is to appear in something. There i nothing there, as far as I can see, where somebody unconnected with Bryhan has written at length about him, and published it in a reliable place; and without that, he does not pass the test for notability (which by the way, does not mean the same as 'fame', 'importance' or 'quality' - it's just about whether people have written about him.). --ColinFine (talk) 16:53, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How to Write and Post

Hello, I'm new here and trying to help a company owner who wrote about his own company, i would like to know how to write the article and post the article here, in Wikipedia. So, please kindly teach/guide me to know how. Thank youInnisfreeze (talk) 14:04, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Innisfreeze. I strongly advise you to read your first article, and then use the article wizard to create the article: it will put it in 'Draft' space where you can work on it without risk of immediate deletion (as long as you don't do something really bad, like copy the whole article from somewhere else where it is copyrighted). If you are working with the company owner, you, as well as the owner, have a conflict of interest, so you need to read the link I just included. --ColinFine (talk) 16:02, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Innisfreeze: if you truly want a guide, ask for a mentor at WP:CO_OP Fiddle Faddle 17:50, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How to move an article (ViewPoint 3D) out of article space and into a user sandbox without leaving a redirect?

I'm trying to help a company owner who wrote about his own company ViewPoint 3D. The article is up for deletion, and will almost certainly be deleted in a few days. The person claims the company will become notable in future. I suggested he move his contribution from article space to his sandbox, improve it, and resubmit later via AfC. I know how to move articles, but (as I understand it) a redirect is automatically created. I don't want to leave a redirect from article space to draft space, obviously. How do I move without creating a redirect? I did read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:How_to_move_a_page but it didn't help. Thanks SageGreenRider (talk) 11:42, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Once you've done the move, you would need to tag the redirect for deletion ({{db-g8}} would be the appropriate tag). However, since there is now a well established deletion discussion underway, you ought to wait for the outcome of that process before acting - moving a page which is at AFD is rather disruptive, and while it's not prohibited, it's not going to make you very popular, especially if it's a userfication (which is tantamount to second-guessing the closing administrator). Yunshui ^雲 _水 14:20, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wasn't going to move it myself. As I understand it, the primary contributor can move their own contribution unilaterally.(?) I was going to suggest it to them. As it turns out they aren't interested in the idea, so the idea is somewhat moot at this point. Thanks again though. I'll let nature take its course. SageGreenRider (talk) 14:25, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Article Re-submission

I have re-submitted my article,Draft:Carborundum Universal, which was previously declined for lack of reliable resources. I want some help whether the article is having the good source. SiloniSam (talk) SiloniSam SiloniSam (talk) 11:00, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@SiloniSam: I'm sorry, but it looks like one source is bad. Wikipedia does not allow sources on an article that are made by the subject of the article (please see why we can't handle these kinds of sources). --Phil roc^{My contribs} 13:26, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is a blog by the subject of a BLP a valid source?

Hello, I've been doing some light editing on the BLP for Sam Harris for the past few months. It's had some POV issues but I think we're making some good headway. I've found that most of the sources for his views are taken directly from his blog. I've got two problems with this.

1. In BLP it calls blogs 'original research' which we are definitely not allowed to use.

2. I would consider the blog of the person the BLP is about to be a POV source in many cases.

I believe this can be solved by trying to replace most of the blog sources with sources from secondary sources. There's no end to writings on his views so it shouldn't be hard to find. It would end up being a little bit shorter, but, I believe, significantly more accurate and better sourced.

So final question, is my understanding on the use of blogs correct, and do you think I have proposed a correct solution? YshuDS (talk) 04:19, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi YshuDS and welcome to the Teahouse. My understanding is that self-published sources such as blogs, social media sites and personal websites of third-parties are not considered acceptable reliable sources for BLPs per WP:BLPSPS. In other words, self-published sources written by other people about Sam Harris should not be used at all. However, self-published sources written by Harris himself can be used per WP:BLPSELFPUB as long as certain conditions are satisfied. So, Harris' own blog and social media sites, etc. may be used in support of simple factual information, but not to support comments about other people/unrelated events or any claims which might be deemed excessively self-serving, etc. - Marchjuly (talk) 04:48, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On a side point, you refer to the BLP for Sam Harris. That is a disambiguation list. I see that you were editing Sam Harris (author). I agree with the advice that his blog can be used for information about what his views are, to the extent that his views are notable. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:00, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much.YshuDS (talk) 19:17, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2nd Hand Quote Question

I have made some additions to the page on the book "The Waters of Kronos". I found a quote that I think would add to the description of the book:

"Frank Wilson's review of the Penn State Press edition in the July 13, 2003 Philadelphia Inquirer asserts that the novel is 'at once a searing examination of conscience and a heartfelt act of contrition. John Donner learns, not that you can't go home again, but that you can't really leave home in the first place. Home is the baggage you carry wherever and however far you wander.'" at https://secureapps.libraries.psu.edu/content/richter/wok.htm

But I have not been able to find Frank Wilson's review to cite it. I think the newspaper may not have content from back in 2003 online. Can I use this quote and cite the psu.edu URL or would that be unacceptable? Rippedcloth (talk) 00:40, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Rippedcloth - Cite the psu.edu page, per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:55, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 10:30, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This page needs help https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_Nature

Hello,

Please help edit this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_Nature.

It has several flags and needs the eye of an experienced Wikipedia editor.

Thanks, John

Onjohn (talk) 22:32, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Onjohn hello and welcome to The Teahouse. I'm not sure what I could actually do, but the article definitely needs more sources. There are paragraphs that do not have any references. And some of the information is shown in a list format, when it would be better as sentences. The article could use some more details about how the organization began.

And one source should be formatted. The link doesn't work, but it is apparently a newspaper and all we need is the name of the paper, the title, when the article appeared, and the author if there is one.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:00, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How to improve articles with little or no content

Hi, Whenever I browse Wikipedia by random article, I come across scores of little articles about obscure third-world villages and people that have no virtually presence on the Internet besides having a Wikipedia page. They often contain no citations, while some have one or a few. For example, articles like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garmasha https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poshtaveh-ye_Sofla https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinli,_Jabrayil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Fairmount,_New_Jersey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baricheh,_Karun are short and have little information, while not much could be gathered online at all.

My question is for more experienced users: how could I improve these kinds of articles? It may be impossible to gather more information or references to add to them, and I suspect that most are not notable at all. Should they be nominated for deletion? Is there a better way to handle it?

Thanks for helping me learn to contribute! Mechanic1c (talk) 19:26, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings @Mechanic1c: and welcome to the Teahouse. On the left sidebar menu, if you click on Community portal and page down to the Help out section, it shows a lot of ways that you can help improve existing articles. Cheers! JoeHebda (talk) 20:07, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse, Mechanic1c. It is a basic principle described in the Five pillars essay that Wikipedia incorporates aspects of a gazetteer and we therefore should have an article about every city, town and village on Earth.

Here is how our essay on Common outcomes in deletion debates describes long-standing consensus: "Cities and villages anywhere in the world are generally kept, regardless of size or length of existence, as long as that existence can be verified through a reliable source."

My advice regarding village articles is either to leave them be or try to improve them. They are not "obscure" to people who live there, people traveling there, or people whose ancestors were born there. The library in the closest city probably has plenty of published information which can be used to improve the article over time. This is a very long range project. If you have evidence the article is a hoax, then nominate it for deletion. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:21, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I appreciate the response. I will keep that all in mind. Mechanic1c (talk) 20:35, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's one of the ironies of Wikipedia that a village of 30 people merits an article (or any high school) but the bar is set extremely high for academics. They have to be outstanding in their field to not have an article on their work deleted. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:19, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is an irony, Liz, but few editors would argue that every academic including a newly minted Community College instructor is notable. The consensus on villages and high schools is robust enough that it cuts way down on endless, repetitive battles at Articles for Deletion (where every active editor should help out). Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:10, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I never thought every academic should have a Wikipedia article. But the bar is too high. For some editors, the academics have to have been covered by mainstream publications like the New York Times to be included here. What's ironic is that many are important enough to be cited on Wikipedia but not judged to be so outstanding in their field that they deserve an article. I mean, we are talking about 1% of academics/professors (or fewer). But that is neither here nor there and I will take leave and not rant at the Teahouse. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:33, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No article should ever have been deleted or rejected because the subject was not "so outstanding in their field". Nor on whether they were famous, important, significant, worthy, notorious or influential. None of those criteria has any relevance at all to determining notability. The issue underlying notability is "Is there enough material published about this subject in independent reliable sources that it is possible to write a satisfactory article about it?" If there is no published material, or no independent material, or no material published in reliable places, about the subject, then it will not be possible at present to write a satisfactory article, so it not permitted to try. --ColinFine (talk) 08:32, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

latex yes or not?

...RuBP + O
₂ → Phosphoglycolate + 3-phosphoglycerate + 2H⁺
...
Should this reaction used in articles (or any of the reactions) using latex?
aGastya ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 18:32, 27 April from2015 (UTC)

@Acagastya: Salve! Ibi tibi hoc dico:* I looked at the article and I didn't see any mention of latex. What's the connection?

* Acagastya's talk page link text is Latin for "To say something", so I said "Hi! I'm saying this to you here." --Thnidu (talk) 05:48, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Acagastya and Thnidu: Actually, I thought Acagastya might have been referring to the LaTeX markup code, but I could be completely wrong here... CabbagePotato (talk) 06:40, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure aGastya is asking about LaTeX, asking whether to use it for presenting chemical equations in the same way you might for mathematical equations. I can't find anything which says how to present these, so I think it is up to the editor whether to use it. However, my suggestion would be not to do so, because I'm guessing that people who work on chemical articles are not generally familiar with LaTeX in the way that people who work on mathematical articles usually are. --ColinFine (talk) 08:22, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes: it was about LaTeX editor: Well thank you for helping!
aGastya ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 10:41, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is one reason why proper casing and spelling are important.
For suggestions on how to write chemical equations on WP, it would probably be more useful to ask at the WikiProject Chemistry talk page ... which I see you already know about. --Thnidu (talk) 02:03, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I submitted a new article, my first, and received an email I don't understand.

What does "patrolled" mean? I submitted my first article a few minutes ago and received an email saying my article is being patrolled.66.228.73.77 (talk) 18:30, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello IP editor! Patrol means that the page you have created is patrolled i.e. the page is found okay in every aspect. From Notablity to use (if a name space page is created) and the usage of media. But that doesn't means that it is 100% okay!
There might be some typos on the page.
aGastya ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 18:38, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, aGastya, I can't let that mis-statement stand. 66.228.73.77, it means that the page has been checked for certain major problems, (for example, copyright violation) as detailed in Ukexpat's link below. It does not mean that it is "okay in every aspect". It might be a wonderful article, or it might be the barest skeleton of an article. --ColinFine (talk) 08:16, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

More at Wikipedia:New pages patrol.--ukexpat (talk) 19:44, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Chemical name or formula?

...The photorespiratory pathway is a major source of H₂O₂ in photosynthetic cells. Through H₂O₂ production...
Should not here hydrogen peroxide be used instead of H₂O₂?
aGastya ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 18:24, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, aGastya. I would think that was appropriate (and probably wikilinking it to Hydrogen peroxide as well). What I think I would do is say "of hydrogen peroxide (H₂O₂)" so that subsequent mentions can use the more compact formula (this follows WP:MOS#Write out both the full version and the abbreviation at first occurrence if you you regard a chemical formula as a kind of abbreviation). --ColinFine (talk) 08:08, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Thank you!
aGastya ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 10:46, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect link

I found one link in the See also section. That was linked to C2 photosynthesis which is just a redirect to Photorespiration. So, is it better to make the change to link to original page even though it creates no harm (I don't know if any until now)?
aGastya ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 18:18, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, aGastya. Are you asking whether you should replace a link to a redirect to a link to the target page? If so the answer is yes, though I don't think it's very high priority. It's even possible to make it a direct link but pipe the link so that the displayed text is the same as at present: I don't know whether or not that is appropriate in this case. --ColinFine (talk) 08:00, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@ColinFine:Yes it is what you assumed. Piping will display the text which can be understood by anyone: But link to target or to redirect or it doesn't matter?
aGastya ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 10:10, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

aGastya Since it says in the first sentences of Photorespiration that the process is also known as "C2 photosynthesis" (that the two names are interchangeable), in a "See also" section you should link to the page where the article actually is. If it was in the text where the C2 photosynthesis term is used, then a piped link [[Photorespiration|C2 photosynthesis]] is more appropriate. Linking to the "end page" when possible is always preferred to linking to redirects. w.carter-Talk 10:27, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects from foreign languages

If there is another name for the same thing in a foreign language- for example, the Tamil name given for Ekambareswarar Temple on the article, is creating a redirect unnecessary to the point that it could be seen as non-constructive? Thank you. Rubbish computer (talk) 16:10, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Rubbish computer: If there is an unnecessary redirect you can always click disambiguation to see other results.Komchi^✉_☆ 19:46, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Rubbish computer. Are you referring to the interlanguage links in the side-bar? Are you saying that the Tamil one links to a redirect in ta.wikipedia? If so, pick "Edit links", and it will take you to the Wikidata entry, where you can alter the ta: link to point to the right article. Or do you mean something else? --ColinFine (talk) 20:23, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Komchi:@ColinFine:Sorry, I meant on the article itself there is a name on Tamil. Should I create a redirect on the English language Wikipedia to the article or is this non-constructive?

Sorry, Rubbish computer: I still don't understand what you are asking about. If you are referring to the name in Tamil at the beginning of the article, no it should not be linked. The link to the Tamil article is in the sidebar under "Languages". It is not usual to link to other language Wikipedias within the text: it is normally done only when a Wikilink is appropriate but there isn't an English article on the subject. Or am I still misunderstanding your question? --ColinFine (talk) 07:56, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@ColinFine: I'm really sorry about how I've overcomplicated this. I mean, if somebody on the English language Wikipedia types in the Tamil text, should it redirect to the article in English? Rubbish computer (talk) 10:26, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see. I think the answer is No: it doesn't make sense to have redirects for every language to every article; and besides, if you search for ஏகாம்பரநாதர் கோயில், it offers you two articles, of which the first is Ekambareswarar Temple. --ColinFine (talk) 15:49, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@ColinFine:Thank you. Does this mean that if I have created redirects in other languages-I have created Звонко Станојоски and Марат Илдусович Исхаков- do they need to be deleted? Do ones with languages more similar to English like Charte de la Revolution Socialiste Malagasy need to be as well? Sorry about this. Rubbish computer (talk) 17:22, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's necessary to worry about deleting redirects which already exist, Rubbish computer: I'd simply advise against creating any more, unless there is some particular reason to think that people are likely to search for that term. My opinion. --ColinFine (talk) 22:07, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@ColinFine: Thank you. Rubbish computer (talk) 07:38, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion

Why has my page been nominated for deletion? Is it because it is unreferenced? IllogicMink (talk) 07:36, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, IllogicMink. If you mean Red stapler effect, the answer is no, not directly. The speedy deletion nomination is because it is "a recently created article with no relevant page history that does not expand upon, detail, or improve information within the existing article(s) on the subject, Office Space". In other words, the nominator, Roches, thinks that the article does not provide anything that is not (or should not be) already within the existing article. If you disagree, you may click the "Contest this speedy deletion" button, and make your argument why this should be a separate article. That is where the question of referencing will come in: in order to justify having a separate article, the article will need to show that the subject "the red stapler effect" is notable - that is, that multiple reliable sources, referenced in the article, have written about it at length. Given the specific grounds for deletion that may not be enough - the consensus might be that it still does not merit a separate article - but it will certainly be required. --ColinFine (talk) 08:00, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agh. Delete it please. If you're not an admin, get an admin to delete it. Next time I will look at the existing criteria to find out. IllogicMink (talk) 08:07, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting vandalism

How should I do it? What tools should I use? IllogicMink (talk) 08:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You can use the 'undo' button to the right of the vandal's edit in the 'History' section of the article, which you can access from the article by clicking 'View History' in the upper right corner when you are on the article. This will revert this particular edit. Mattsnow81 (Talk) 17:43, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See more at Help:Reverting and Wikipedia:Vandalism. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:43, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]