User talk:InedibleHulk

Where am I, who are you, what's going on?

Another day, another talk page. Fill it up, folks. There are no stupid questions! InedibleHulk (talk) 22:06, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Just can't stay away... All the best: Rich Farmbrough 16:51, 3 June 2020 (UTC).

Deep down inside, aren't we all cats? InedibleHulk (talk) 02:07, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Just saw this. Now I can't unsee it. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:37, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Don't blame me, blame the cat, it was his idea! InedibleHulk (talk) 02:46, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

2020 WikiSlam Bot Bracket

There are no live sports being played on our continent. We must make do with virtual contests.

	1st Round					2nd Round					Quarterfinals					Semifinals					Finals
	1	ClueBot NG
	32	Salebot
	17	Merge bot
	16	Lowercase sigmabot III
	9	HostBot
	24	Hazard-Bot
	25	MusikBot II
	8	MusikBot
	5	DYKUpdateBot
	28	TheMagikBOT
	21	BotPuppet
	12	DumbBOT
	13	CommonsDelinker
	20	Yobot
	29	PowerBOT
	4	AnomieBOT
	3	Legobot
	30	SDZeroBot
	19	Mathbot
	14	SuggestBot
	11	DatBot
	22	DPL bot
	27	JJMC89 bot III
	6	InternetArchiveBot
	7	Citation bot
	26	WikiCleanerBot
	23	Bender the Bot
	10	Cewbot
	15	AAlertBot
	18	AntiCompositeBot
	31	Cydebot
	2	SineBot

We're going to need more champions. Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 05:19, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

There's a one-time UFC Flyweight Championship contender from Texas primed to stand her ground against a plucky Mexican underdog tomorrow night in Vegas, out there in the real North America. What we need for Cyber Slam here is a RefBot. Any ideas, SuggestBot? InedibleHulk (talk) 05:34, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

The ref should be human. Can't expect a bot to know the difference between a clean fight and a dirty one. I see a ref in creffett. Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 05:52, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Oh yeah, good eye! InedibleHulk (talk) 06:10, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

I've been here fourteen years and never noticed Cewbot. I barely even get her deal after reading her task list. Whoever she's up against, let's make it a retirement match. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:42, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

I may have been generous with the #10 seed. Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 05:48, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

No worries, every grand tournament has some obscure first-round filler. Michigan's own Steiner Brothers would have never been big in Japan without crushing the weird little world that was the Pat O'Connor Memorial International Cup Tag Team Tournament, for instance. The important thing is not overspending on talent, which you clearly haven't! InedibleHulk (talk) 06:02, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Anyway, not exactly clear on the rules and scouting this field of unfeeling hopefuls has left me wondering what else has always been lurking right under my nose online, so I'm off to YouTube. Then bed, then virtual Vegas, then my secret Sunday spot. Have something on my desk by Monday morning, or I'm sending you to Kansas City for "seasoning" (with no offense!) else what? InedibleHulk (talk) 06:48, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

According to the Internet, the Central States are now run by computers. So pay no attention to the threat behind that deadline, not worth the ticket. Just explain whatever, whenever, and have a lovely weekend! InedibleHulk (talk) 10:35, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

"Rules", you say? I'm not familiar with the concept. I checked my dictionary and I got "ruffian", "rugged" and "rum", but no "rules". I'll have to do some research and get back to you. Have a lovely weekend as well! Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 19:07, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

After consulting with a reputable "calendar", it seems I had Friday confused with Thursday. So now real sports are tomorrow, no love for today! I used to know a guy who came around here insisting how bots should be treated by the community, though he was chased into obscurity by skeptical Indian spirits, angry about the other thing. But other lurkers still lurk. They'll have us up to here with their "rules", all we need is just a little patience. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

How's this for r00lz: We go round by round (probably should make this an 8 or 16 and not a 32). For each round, the bots are compared in a few objective and subjective categories. Each category is worth 1 point. Suggested objective categories: edit count, BAG approvals, and block log entries. Suggested subjective categories: coolest user name, coolest user page, coolest operator.^{[just kidding]} We'll have to figure out some categories. But WikiSlam 2020 is the competition that anyone can edit. Or judge. So any editor can cast a vote in the subjective categories. Bot with the most votes wins the subjective category. Objective categories are awarded objectively (in case you weren't following along). Bot who wins the most categories wins the round. Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 05:09, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

There's sure to be a lot of media hype around the ClueBot NG-Salebot match. You can't see the dirtybot's stats with just a mouse roll-over, so here's a link to wikiscan.

Notable: Salebot leads ClueBot NG 455,674 to 0 in the reverts category. SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 07:47, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

This makes my head feel floaty and heavy at the same time! But I'm not complaining. Bots will be bots, may the objectively coolest conquer and enslave them all! (Also, turns out Cynthia Calvillo is technically neither Mexican nor underdog, my bad.) InedibleHulk (talk) 16:12, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

We're going to need a bigger bot. starship.paint (talk) 13:17, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Also a big and biggest. Otherwise, we'll lose track of who's bigger! Third should definitely be in 3-D, though. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:13, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Ok, some nominations: WikiCleanerBot, PrimeBOT, AntiCompositeBot, Bender the Bot. Also, I feel that I ranked MathBot too high. --JBL (talk) 12:10, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Follow your heart! Barring that, consult and obey Levivich, ostensibly the head booker, main sponsor and executive producer of this extravaganza. Call me an ignorant neckbearded slob, but all bots are pretty much the same on my sheet, a solid six or seven. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:22, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Mathbot's got heart, always parsing above its limits. After weigh-in witnessed by a bureaucrat and a passing inspection of source code by an interface admin, these nominations have been Approved. Thanks, JBL! Just three slots left! Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 03:02, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Ok, after a play-in match between PrimeBOT and AntiCompositeBot, the bracket is full. --JBL (talk) 12:21, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Hooray! InedibleHulk (talk) 09:13, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

So I was thinking of making a "score card" template we can use the score each match and find out who wins and advances... but I can't figure out how we should score them. What is the criteria by which bot superiority is decided? What if a bot doesn't have shoulders to pin? Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 17:54, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

I saw a clip from one of the Transformer movies yesterday where the generic one sells an arm wringer, suggesting that stupid alien tool gave itself inflexible human-like shoulders, elbows and wrists. But that's too simple for us adults, Bender would cut through the field like a hot iceberg through buttery New Hampshire. We need...fresh ideas! InedibleHulk (talk) 18:39, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

All the kids will eat it up if it's packaged properly. Steal a sound and imitate, keep the format equally. Not an ode, it's just the facts: where our world is nowadays. An idea is what we lack; doesn't matter anyways. Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 18:50, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Are those already lyrics, man? InedibleHulk (talk) 18:57, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

As apt today as they were 25 years ago, and 25 years prior when Dylan said pretty much the same thing, and Guthrie 25 years before that. Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 19:05, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm stumped. But don't tell me, anyone! I got this. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:23, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

OK, I tested your secret message against New Morning, results came back negative. In a rage, I kneecapped Cewbot and stole her jangly soul. Didn't put Bender through because somebody is late building the next round's framework, but trust me, she's not going anywhere. If anybody feels bad about a female robot being horrendously assaulted by the slimy venue owner backstage, remember, they're all the same. Also, I'm mainly slimy because it's August in Ontario and the wordless scream of Powerglove's Saturday Morning Apocalypse howls through the caverns of my mind (X-Men now, dig it!). But yeah, still don't tell me, I'll get back to that unplugged noise this evening, settle the score and all that afore. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:01, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

A-ha! It did smell like teen something. But not like Mexican seafood, beeswax or a hairspray queen, which I'd surely have recognized sooner as 1945 Guthrie singles. Crazy how we can hear a song a thousand times and still not pick up on the English. I'm about to figure out what "Downer" was actually saying, or at least what the Internet thinks it heard, 27 years later. Then I'll crack "Battles" by Atlas; I'm fairly sure it holds the key to something about how the computer always wins. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:42, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

A week ago, I wasn't sure if I understood what all this was about. Now I'm certain that I don't understand. --JBL (talk) 12:52, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

You're making progress, Levi's rocking out, Sashi's doing math. But yeah, how this ties into the tournament remains a tad murky. Though that's to be expected in times of summer hockey, plausibly. InedibleHulk (talk) 13:20, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Also, I thought I saw lyrics above, but couldn't place them. Turns out they were from an old sea chanty me mudder used to hear me play in the old country, popularly known as "Aero Zeppelin" since 1992, and not a damn generation or two sooner! But enough of childish things, eh, let's figure out how to make these technologically advanced non-violent creatures fight for our amusement, till only the righteous stands. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:47, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

The Dylan song I was thinking of is It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) [1]. I don't remember which Guthrie song I was thinking of but let's face it, it could be pretty much any of 'em. Anyway, everyone gets real mad at me when I change the genre of Nirvana to folk. ^Lev!v^ich 16:49, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Folksier than Bush, I guess. I'll give that song a listen. If it's not the grimmest masterpiece ever, you owe me those three hours of Googling Guthrie I'll never get back! InedibleHulk (talk) 18:00, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Sloppy monotonous flow, nice swamprock lick that quickly gets old, problems I've heard younger rappers raise more succinctly already, not even a tambourine holding it down...two stars. That's an A+ new signature from you, though! InedibleHulk (talk) 18:17, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Hey thanks! I didn't say you should listen to it, I was just talkin' 'bout the lyrics. You... you didn't listen to the original Dylan recording of it, did you? Don't you know the first rule of Dylan?

First Rule of Dylan
1. For every Dylan song, there is a better cover.
Examples: "All Along the Watchtower" (Hendrix), "Maggie's Farm" (RATM), "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" (Clapton, GNR), "Masters of War" (Vedder)
Exceptions: "Subterranean Homesick Blues", "Mr. Tambourine Man" (f The Byrds)
See also: Third Rule of Beatles

So "It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)" is no exception; the original is not that great, and while there are some good covers [2] [3], the best cover is by... Dylan. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ^Lev!v^ich 18:43, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

I heard a piccolo, saw 6:48 and was done for today, but thanks for the tip. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:00, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Back to bot battles

Back to bot battles, I had suggested objective criteria: edit count, BAG approvals, and block log entries, but I'm bored just typing that again. Maybe subjective criteria would be better. Somehow we need to produce a yardstick against which to measure. ^Lev!v^ich 17:07, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Levivich, the tumbleweeds are growing heavy with frost here, maybe it's time to declare this a time limit draw, all bots ultimately mattering? InedibleHulk (talk) 09:40, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

It's the only safe bet. I don't know if you've noticed, but since organization of the bot league began, several participants and bots have been blocked. Sure, you say, some were released in prisoner exchanges, others to reduce overcrowding during the pandemic, but we still have good men and machines out there trying to find their way back. The whole thing is cursed, I tell you. The only rational move now is to cryogenically freeze it, bury it deep in the ground, then cover it with a giant pyramid-shaped structure made entirely of stone. To avoid arousing suspicion, we'll tell everyone the pyramid is a monument to our sun god, "Nimbosales". Perhaps a future generation, advanced beyond our wildest imaginations, will someday be able to continue the work we started. Lev!vich 16:28, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Beautiful! It's minority opinions like that that remind me why I chose you to lead my filthy adminship campaign this year. And also why I committed political suicide so I might guide your campaign from the shadowsss. Anyway, there's still time (if not hope) for one of us fallibly unequal humans to pull off an October Surprise on that front. Can't make a Nimbosalian pyramid gleam without The Mop, now can we? InedibleHulk (talk) 21:51, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

I mean, we wouldn't be able to revdel the comments we disagreed with, delete the pages we think are spam, or block the editors we think should be thrown out (including but not limited to each other), so I'm having a hard time coming up with a use case. Lev!vich 04:00, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Aye, as the great and powerful EEng once said, "Maybe with time we'll find a use case." Till then, I'm imposing a strict fourteen-day topic ban on myself, from subjects beginning with consonants. See you later, alligator! InedibleHulk (talk) 05:30, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Disruption

Please stop with the humour now (assuming that is what it is).Slatersteven (talk) 16:51, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Fine, I'll be miserable. Can you stop misindenting? I've got my own colons to keep in line, don't need yours! InedibleHulk (talk) 16:56, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Where did I misindent?Slatersteven (talk) 17:03, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Nowhere anymore, I've been quietly picking up after you, but it was at least seven damn times, Steven. At 15:37 UTC, I alleged "[w]e both suck at threading!" I firmly stand by this. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:07, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Was it misindenting or you not getting what I was indenting for? Anyway, you may now take this as a warning, if you keep up the snark I will report you.Slatersteven (talk) 17:23, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

You just did it again, under Levivich, what could you possibly be going for? InedibleHulk (talk) 17:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Socratic Barnstar
		For remembering the great Nelson Frazier Jr. debate of 2014, which ended in me boldly moving the article to its current title. 2014 LM2000 looks down at 2020 LM2000 with absolute disgust for their 2020 GSK !vote. Thanks for holding me to account.LM2000 (talk) 06:36, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Glad I could bring you two back together, you're going need all the help you can get looking yourselves in the mirror come 2026, when Big Marky L crashes through that great big table in the sky. Will it it be Bubba, Buh Buh or Bully, brother? The answer lies in the inky dark rays penetrating the sunny valley 'neath the mammoth hills of Mideon's main man's mammaries; stare deeply, my friend! InedibleHulk (talk) 08:45, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Also, steal this book! InedibleHulk (talk) 08:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Also, props for pressing your luck on the 13th anniversary of 9/11, that was very brave of you. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:01, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Don't stop the humor

In response to this, don't stop the humor. Your edit summaries made my day. I wish there was a way to watch your contributions page.VR _talk 12:35, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Fine, I'll be jovial. But if my critics are unamused, it's your fault! Maybe a bit theirs. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:05, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

A Dobos torte for you!

7&6=thirteen (☎) has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it. To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:45, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

I only count six layers, but still fun, thanks! InedibleHulk (talk) 17:08, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Minor edits?

Hi! You flagged several recent edits to the Robin Williams article as minor, but I don't believe they meet the "Minor" edit criteria (see WP:MINOR). Personally, I avoid using the Minor flag unless I'm absolutely sure the label fits (correcting a typo, undoing obvious vandalism, etc.).

Thanks! — UncleBubba ^{( T @ C )} 16:35, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

I moved one clause to earlier in the same sentence, changing no intended meaning, just avoiding a potential misreading (and adding a comma). Then I fixed a singular noun mishap and word which seemed to accidentally contradict the first part of an invisible note. Seems minor to me; major edits involve adding and removing content in my books, not just small tweaks (two extra bytes). InedibleHulk (talk) 20:06, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Your input

I have an RfC going on at Talk:Gwar#RfC_about_GwarBar_vs_GWARbar regarding using all caps in an article and would appreciate the input of some long-standing Wikipedia editors who may be familiar with the policy, or at least be able to interpret the existing policy with some clarity. Thanks for your time! NJZombie (talk) 23:39, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Had to go with the flow. But personally, I like "GWARbar", and recommend general writers use it. Did you know you didn't trigger a New Message notification here? I wonder if that's because you're a zombie. Probably a mundane "scientific" reason, though. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:15, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, the dispute has always been about reinforcing existing policy, not preference. Otherwise, I'd be all for logos being typed exactly as they're typically presented. As it is, I prefer the camel case because, otherwise, it can seem like it's pronounced as if it was one word rhyming with arbor. Thanks for voicing a vote regardless. As far as not generating a message, it may have just been the method in which I left it. Not sure. NJZombie (talk) 20:44, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

In my advice's first version, I used camel case, just naturally. But BLOODMONEY begat Bloodmoney, not BloodMoney (in my experience), so had to go smaller. If even one good source capitalizes the B, though, I'm all in! InedibleHulk (talk) 21:01, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

An article called "Facebook post"

How is it that we don't yet have an article on Facebook post? It is a culturally and socially significant phenomenon of our time that gets people in trouble, ruins careers and causes much pain in the world. One of the most contentious first world problems of our time. VR _talk 14:50, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

We also don't have one on the Delete Your Facebook campaign, which got people out of trouble, saved careers and ended most suffering, so maybe Wikipedia's just trying to maintain equal obscurity. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:27, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

I shared a link to your imaginary feature piece in an edit summary at a miserably extant article tonight, and when I looked back, exactly seven hours had passed since I stopped wondering about it. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:46, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

I finally got around to...making a draft (Draft:Facebook post). Please add to it. Even if its some of your silliness, I'll try my best to make it all encyclopedic.VR _talk 23:34, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Not the best time. I just struck a quasideal with the boss like a gentleman to retire with dignity from any topic broadly construed as pertaining to American politics (and policies, unless that was a typo) since 1932. Even if I just danced around the fringes a bit like a loon, at its rotten core, I think the way a Facebook post gets people in trouble, ruins careers and causes much pain in the world could be seen as too similar to that other thing there, the one I'm already forgetting about, one word at a time, something about 1932, I hope you understand. I'm proud of you, though! You did a good thing for your vice regency, where a lot of other so-called "vice regents" probably would not have bothered. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:49, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

RfA

I think this is enough here. Further discussion is not going to take things any further and it's not inconceivable to imagine it may be distressing to the user. If anyone wishes to take the blocking admin to task any further, they should do so on their talk page, or head to ANI. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:12, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Just to let you know that I've commented on your !vote on the RfA. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 14:30, 16 August 2020 (UTC) Note that I didn't actually strike the !vote, and I'm not looking to start World War III over it. I just don't think it was a helpful contribution, which is not to claim that anyone is actually perfect, including either the candidate or me. Newyorkbrad (talk) 14:36, 16 August 2020 (UTC) (Personal attack removed) InedibleHulk (talk) 14:45, 16 August 2020 (UTC) InedibleHulk, wtf? Glen (talk) 14:57, 16 August 2020 (UTC) Look out for User:331dot, who has a mania for colorful commentary  ;) 2A02:C7F:BE17:2D00:81A8:8E54:F73D:68F4 (talk) 16:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC) As you wish, I've blocked until December. -- Tavix (talk) 20:38, 16 August 2020 (UTC) Gosh. I didn't realise an offer of communal fellatio was blockable. But I guess we're just novices in the insult stakes. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:46, 16 August 2020 (UTC) As the main recipient of the now-redacted invitation above, which I decline, I don't think this block was necessary. The incivility was on the editor's own talk page, and although he reacted poorly to my comment on the RfA, my hope had been to deescalate the situation. Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:06, 16 August 2020 (UTC) Agree mostly with NYB - that was offensive enough that I would consider a block to be reasonable, but three and a half months is a) a fairly arbitrary choice, and b) too far over to the "punitive" side of "blocks should be preventative rather than punitive." Aside: everything okay, Hulk? That was a really strong reaction to a fairly reasonable statement by NYB. GeneralNotability (talk) 21:14, 16 August 2020 (UTC) Yes, NYB, World War III might have been a little difficult to take. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:15, 16 August 2020 (UTC) As you receive, so shall you giveth. Nice Brad, I think we all appreciate a bit of "regulation" in actions around here. A block until December? Really? And I was told "fuck you" by an admin (an admin) of whom none of his lofty peers batted a single eyelid. Plus ça change. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 21:16, 16 August 2020 (UTC) I presume the block length was based on this edit summary. Pinging Tavix as the blocking admin. Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:19, 16 August 2020 (UTC) @The Rambling Man - Hi. Out of pure curiosity, mind if you show me the admin saying that to you? Foxnpichu (talk) 12:21, 17 August 2020 (UTC) It's water under the bridge, I didn't take it any further because it was just a heat-of-the-moment eruption, showed bad admin form sure, but hey, we're all (most of us) human. Rushing to block rather than attempting to reason is a serious problem here, punitive blocking seems to be the order of the day these days. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:04, 17 August 2020 (UTC) InedibleHulk's behavior is incompatible with a collaborative environment, and it was clear to me that he had no intentions of deescalating. I am hopeful for a sincere unblock request, to which I would welcome an unblock. -- Tavix (talk) 21:20, 16 August 2020 (UTC) My impression was that he had signed off for awhile—his last edit was several hours ago with the edit summary peace—which might have been his own way of deescalating. Absent the block, he could and I think would have returned when he was ready and quietly resumed content editing, which now is no longer possible. Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:24, 16 August 2020 (UTC) My impression was that this needed someone to do what Glen did above, ask if InedibleHulk was okay, before wading in with size 9s (or size 44s or whatever) and offering up a block until December which is of literally no practical benefit to a single individual involved in this discussion. I sincerely hope that InedibleHulk is alright as this seems out of character, and I hope in future our admins (at least those who currently don't) will consider a wider and deeper context to any such outbursts rather than just operate like some kind of semantic parser and come up with a "94.3% non-collegiate edit" response. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 21:27, 16 August 2020 (UTC) I'm not sure that renders the block length not arbitrary and/or capricious. GMGtalk 22:03, 16 August 2020 (UTC) If I had been the first to respond, I probably make a direct ask for the comment to be stricken and go from there based on the response. That said, I don't have an issue with a different sysop responding with a block. However, given this fact pattern, Tavix,with respect, 3 months seems like either too long or too short. I think a 48-72 hour block is no problem for this clearly defined attack and would be an appropriate prevention. Alternatively if you want to force discussion, which is probably defensible, given this editor's history, then it should have been an indef. This is neither of those and I think is part of the reason for the pushback seen here. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:16, 16 August 2020 (UTC) I have no problem with a modification of the block either way. I think this length is actually a good compromise from an indef. Hopefully the discussion will be had, but if not he'll be able to come back after a few months, hopefully refreshed and ready to work in a more congenial way. I just hope I'm not being too optimistic. -- Tavix (talk) 22:24, 16 August 2020 (UTC) Yeah, I hope you care about the individual behind the user name too. But perhaps that isn't something that admins need to worry about these days. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 22:31, 16 August 2020 (UTC) The length comes off as pointy in my opinion. PackMecEng (talk) 22:28, 16 August 2020 (UTC) Tavix, there was one instance of disruption at 14:45, and no further instances of disruption after that. How did you determine, six hours later at 20:36, that a 100-day block was the period of time necessary to prevent further disruption? Lev!vich 22:34, 16 August 2020 (UTC) Tavix and after three blocks in fifteen years, one of which was down to a signature issue? This block is purely punitive and any attempt to suggest otherwise is completely disingenuous. Literally no attempt to discuss this, de-escalate it in any shape. I'm not sure this is the kind of admin the project needs. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 22:37, 16 August 2020 (UTC) I recommend that this block be reduced to 72 hours. InedibleHulk, please don't talk that way. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 22:42, 16 August 2020 (UTC) Cullen328, I think Tavix has said above that they would have no problem with someone modifying the block. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:44, 16 August 2020 (UTC) Based on the conversation above, I have changed the block to 72 hours. InedibleHulk, please focus on improving the encyclopedia going forward. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 22:49, 16 August 2020 (UTC) @The Rambling Man: For the sake of clarity, the block I issued was not for a signature issue, but for blatant trolling. As this incident appears to be more of that same trolling behavior, my indefinite block should be viewed as a significant aggravating factor, not a minor incident that should be ignored. ~Swarm~ {sting} 03:00, 17 August 2020 (UTC) I certainly viewed it as significantly aggravating. Lev!vich 04:48, 17 August 2020 (UTC) Sure sure, but time served etc. Can't be tried twice for the same crime etc, all happened years ago etc. Things need to be reviewed in context and that was not the case here. It's good to see common sense has prevailed in this situation. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 06:50, 17 August 2020 (UTC) Sorry if my views are contradictory but that comment was not in the spirit of the encylopedia at all. In the "heat of the moment" and all that but that doesn't justify the comment made. I know everyone "expects" a de-escalation but that sort of comment is entirely not required anywhere in this community. I see quite a few colleagues of mine disagreeing with the initial block but keep in mind that being fine with incivility is exactly what erodes WP:CIVIL (which we as a community seem to have an increasinly lax reading of). This block should not have been modified (and should not be overturned) without an apology and a commitment to being civil. I hope you'll take this in the best way, InedibleHulk, but you've got to do better. --qedk (t 愛 c) 12:51, 17 August 2020 (UTC) Asking for the original block of more than 100 days to be reduced is not the same thing as being fine with incivility. I too hope Hulk takes your comment the best way, qedk; it wouldn't make me feel any better. ---Sluzzelin talk 13:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC) The duration is irrelevant, comments like that are "beyond the pale" and is unacceptable in a collaborative environment. --qedk (t 愛 c) 13:09, 17 August 2020 (UTC) What a caring attitude. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:09, 17 August 2020 (UTC) You are probably being sarcastic but I thought you'd know me enough to get my perspective on why it's not okay to make such comments under any circumstances. --qedk (t 愛 c) 13:14, 17 August 2020 (UTC) QEDK, just for the record, would you have supported an indefinite block? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:17, 17 August 2020 (UTC) You're quite wrong. How do you know what the personal circumstances around InedibleHulk's situation are? It's encouraging to see people like Glen, Dweller and Girth Summit here simply to look after the wellbeing of InedibleHulk while others are simply hawks circling demanding their ounce of justice. It's quite demoralising to see how some admins behave when they should be doing so much better to care for our editors instead of all the "think of the children" nonsense. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:22, 17 August 2020 (UTC) I suggest you read WP:NOTTHERAPY. And you seem to be really twisting what I'm saying here - your implication that I don't care about editors because I said they should do better is wildly misplaced. Being not okay has always been okay, what's not okay is attacking other editors. I'm not demanding "justice" or anything at all, I simply wanted IH to take into account that their actions are not conducive to that of an acceptable environment. I was very aware that making this comment would elicit its fair share of detractors but to me, that's irrelevant when compared to the flipside that IH might actually take what I said into account and return to productive editing. That's all I want out of this. --qedk (t 愛 c) 13:28, 17 August 2020 (UTC) Funny, I don't need to read NOTTHERAPY, I just read the way some people are behaving towards others. Some here, including a number of admins, are concerned for the editor in question whereas others are simply here to inflame the situation. I know which humans I prefer. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:35, 17 August 2020 (UTC) QEDK, personally I thought the block was unnecessary and punitive as opposed to being in the interests of the project but I do think I err on the side of caution in this area. If IH had come back and responded in a disruptive or antagonistic way then sure, but his last post had the edit summary "peace". I just think with long term editors we do need to check in before blocking. Bear in mind my initial reaction was quite literally wtf? so I in no way condone his behavior. But fully acknowledge this is a grey area and incivility should not be tolerated. Glen (talk) 13:38, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Just checking you're OK

Being OK in real life is far more important than any crap here. My email is enabled if you want to let off steam or whatever. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:31, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Same. GMG^talk 12:23, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Add me to the list, Inedible. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:23, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

72 hours? Pfff, you can do that standing on your head (sorry I missed the action above, sounds like a doozy of a rumble). And yeah, playing nice with the other kids is the hallmark of civilized soul-sigh-ity, so everyone please consider turning the other cheek and giving Caesar his due, or whatever works to give playful Wikipedians a happier recess. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:36, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

@Cullen328: Do you want to explain the incivility? Was this about the oppose vote I replied to at RfA? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:26, 17 August 2020 (UTC) (please  mention me on reply; thanks!)

Emir of Wikipedia, it's in the RfA section above though it's been removed so you'll have to review the page history. Glen (talk) 17:40, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Emir of Wikipedia, I do not think it would be useful to go over the incident again here. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:57, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

No problem. Just did not want this to be because of me. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:35, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

I hope you return to editing without further ado. I wish everyone here and elsewhere good health and good spirits. Peace. ---Sluzzelin talk 20:59, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Holy smokes, folks, 59 notifications! Yes, I'm fine. No, it's not the emir's fault. Brad's immediate reminder that Oppose votes are taken far more seriously than Support votes made in the same nonchalant and hollow spirit was the straw that broke my camel's back, already burdened by the same rampant imbalance in articles I've worked on, people in my real life and the usual inner battles between good and evil. Should have suggested he "fly a kite", though, or something similarly tame. Sorry bud, didn't mean it literally!

But yeah, I need a vacation, get some "ducks in order". I've been needing one since I suggested locking a valued coworker's cat in a shark cage last winter, but then Swarm and WHO's significantly aggravating lockdowns showed up. I know I haven't always been the most collegiate and caring SOB this year, but come December, I'll be right as rain and look forward to collaborating with all the familiar names here, maybe even Glen. Thanks for worrying, I guess, peace! InedibleHulk (talk) 23:51, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

That all sounds rough. I'm sorry and hope that December does allow you to be as right as rain. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:04, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Careful, I heard the winter makes you laugh a little slower. Lev!vich 01:27, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Speaking of slow, I just realized how wrong rain would be in December. Sixty points to the first writer with a reasonable winter-themed alternative! And no worries, Barkeep, it's nothing rough enough to be sorry about, but thanks. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:25, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

InedibleHulk—I've been lowering my opinion on people on Wikipedia. This has been a phenomena as relentless as rain and weather conditions wearing down great mountains over geological periods of time, so that the Adirondacks, being older, are more worn down than the Rockies, being younger. I try to follow Michelle Obama's dictum—when they go low, I go high. (Poorly paraphrased.) It is disappointing to see many people I considered upstanding Wikipedia citizens stoop to underhanded tactics. The reason I'm writing this is because I would like people to upgrade their game. You've been a good egg so I post this here. Bus stop (talk) 04:14, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Now there's an adage I never got. In a real fight, if you go high when your opponent stoops for the underhand, you miss entirely and get dragged down beneath them that much faster. Should you ever find a tangible rotten egg heading below your actual belt out there on whatever crumbling street, I rather like "Put your best foot forward!". InedibleHulk (talk) 04:53, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes, "put your best foot forward". I could strike "when they go low, I go high". Have you been watching Human Weapon? Bus stop (talk) 04:58, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

I just discovered Alien Weaponry last night, had my knees weak and heart racing! But before I took up laying around and smoking, I was a human weapon. All consensual, though, and nobody died. Anyway, your uploader has not made this video available in my country. Probably something fishy to hide, y'know? InedibleHulk (talk) 05:13, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

InedibleHulk, sorry just saw this now! No not familiar with them but I've not lived in New Zealand for close to a decade now. As an aside Cullen328 I'd support an unblock per NYB below. We all have bad days. Glen (talk) 15:17, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

InedibleHulk, if you want to take a break until December, that is your right, and I hope you enjoy your time off. But I want to be sure that you know that your block will expire much sooner than that. I changed it to 72 hours. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:27, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that. Thanks. I have a few minor edits to do before the break, nothing heavy, then a few days to work out a minor offline plan or two. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:36, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Alien Weaponry is interesting. They remind me of Devo. Bus stop (talk) 06:07, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

I hadn't realized Devo once reminded me of The Ramones, cool! InedibleHulk (talk) 16:41, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

OK, I've fixed about every last little thing I thought needed fixing and didn't turn out to be presently unfixable, barring some wordiness issue I had with a scorpion article in late July and can't recall any more usefully or conclusively than that. If anybody wants to get in on the ground floor of a cool band before it's cool, I suggest MindTaker. Never mind the kid screaming in Monsterese, just listen to the crazy-fast beats those other gifted children aren't dropping! Portuguese thrash will burn up the charts again, I tell ya, might as well grab a coattail while it's still lukewarm. Or everyone just create and destroy whatever, I'll be home for Christmas! InedibleHulk (talk) 02:22, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

@Cullen328: Given the above, would there be any objection to unblocking at this time? Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:10, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Newyorkbrad, if you think unblocking now is the right thing to do, then please do so. I do not object. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 15:13, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Given that a comment by me inadvertently started all this, I'm probably too "involved" to unblock—but we've seen that there are lots of other admins watching here. Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:16, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Newyorkbrad, Cullen328 I've unblocked in good faith. IH you're a good egg so please don't let us down. Glen (talk) 15:24, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Glen. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 15:29, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Glad to hear this is all sorted. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:17, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

I'll just pop this here in case it interests anyone who frequents this page

User:Dweller/Suggestions for wikistressed editors. It's probably a bit out of date. Feel free to spruce it up. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 18:42, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

I thought I said I missed everything, and somehow, I still missed it when I supposedly knew that I originally missed it. Well, now I haven't missed it. You feeling alright, old chap? starship.paint (talk) 14:40, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Nope! Thought I was close enough yesterday. Time will tell, thanks for asking! InedibleHulk (talk) 09:16, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Environment Barnstar
	I would like to thank you for your contributions on natural or environment-related things. I have given you a barnstar for your hard work. Cupper52 (talk) 10:07, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Nice! InedibleHulk (talk) 21:51, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

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What a coincidence! InedibleHulk (talk) 20:10, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Current Events

Hello. I wanted to invite you to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Current events as you have done edits on Portal:Current events. Most editors aren't aware that the project became active again in April 2020. Just wanted to inform you about that and hope you join. Elijahandskip (talk) 16:37, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Maybe later, thanks for the invite. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:33, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Final warning

The next time you attempt to be reasonable at a topic beginning with a consonant, as you did at Killing of George Floyd, you may be blocked from vowels and numerals without further notice. Your editing is contrary to established POVs on Wikipedia, and you are making contributors who faithfully adhere to these uncomfortable. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:13, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Can I at least use the Talk Page to respond to rebuttals? InedibleHulk (talk) 15:13, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Not likely that would help. Editors with full keyboard capabilities and better diplomatic skills are aware of the problem and are working toward a peaceful transition back to impartial normality. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:13, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

You may be right. I'm sorry for rocking the boat. It's just that... InedibleHulk (talk) 15:13, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Enough! InedibleHulk (talk) 15:13, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

• Took me a second but I got there eventually. Dang it! PackMecEng (talk) 15:32, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

  Yes, dang it, I know. But if you want the good ending, you must read the whole exhausting passage again, from the beginning, while listening to the magic guitar of "Cocaine Cowgirl" descend to the bottom of it all. Rules aren't supposed to be fun! InedibleHulk (talk) 16:15, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Alright, throw in the hole!

Jimbo's talk page begins with a J, and we we were clear on what offering your worthless two cents around such parts would buy you, so follow me, please. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:29, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Can I at least remove some non-Halloween Fraggle Rock episodes from Wikipedia's bullshit list of Halloween specials first, while it's still timely? InedibleHulk (talk) 00:29, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

I'll handle that minor oversight, you shut up, get in the trunk and put this on. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:30, 29 October 2020 (UTC)InedibleHulk (talk) 00:29, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Is that a...? InedibleHulk (talk) 00:29, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Silence! InedibleHulk (talk) 00:30, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• If you're going to talk to yourself -- at least do it in three part harmony. O3000 (talk) 00:43, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Is that a thing people actually do? Honestly, I'd like to learn, seems hard. In any case, don't fear or rejoice yet, I'll be out and reformed in a week (my lawyer knows my jailer's weaknesses!). InedibleHulk (talk) 01:09, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

I (the part of Hulk that demands self control) have decided to let you (the part of Hulk that's gotta be a man and can't let shit slide) run somewhat wild for a probationary period. No true crime, no phony politics, no living people, capisce? If dozens or hundreds of alleged Halloween specials indisputably aired in the summmer, winter, spring or early fall, who else is going to care enough to deliver so many big boots, brother? Also, who else is going to spread the word that Tracey Smothers should be remembered as Smoky Mountain's greatest hero instead of the WWF's 39th lamest inside joke? What does it matter what has a consonant and what has a vowel? Are they all not just alphabet soup? And really, what is the point of holding back the beast in any of us, so long as it doesn't concern crime, politics or people? Run free, you filthy animal and be kind to dumb humans! InedibleHulk (talk) 03:25, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

I'd like to confess to severely and repeatedly violating all three terms of my probation, my flesh was willing but the spirit got weak, may I be forgiven? And can I borrow your spirit? InedibleHulk (talk) 10:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Of course, my inner child! I always knew you'd fail to meet my expectations. Just have it back by Epiphany, and remember the family motto... InedibleHulk (talk) 10:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

[redacted ancient secret]! InedibleHulk (talk) 10:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

October 2020

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to WCIA, did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. What's with the sarcasm? Mvcg66b3r (talk) 04:29, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

No sarcasm intended. All the programming was the same type, subcategory was pointless. The paragraph about the VNR is just another paragraph, undue weight when subsectioned (would've worked better in chronological order, admittedly, but I can't paste). Repeating "digital" under "Digital television" is redundant, already implied. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:35, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on User talk:Mvcg66b3r. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Snowycats (talk) 04:47, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

That's not an attack. If you don't want to know you made a mistake, don't suggest I may tell you. If you can't stand by a template, don't use it. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:49, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Mvcg66b3r In case you were serious about wanting to know why I think you made a mistake, I've explained here. If you think it was a good reversion, I'll hear you out. If you don't offer a justification within three days, I'll restore my straightforward copyedit, nothing personal. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:28, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

@InedibleHulk: I want it to be inline with other TV station articles. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 05:35, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable, have fun. For future cases, maybe use the edit summary to explain your edits as simply as that, instead of casting aspersions. And if you have a question for a 14-year-old account, just ask, don't template, OK? InedibleHulk (talk) 06:05, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Your recent edit to my comment here

Hello. I just wanted to reach out to you regarding your edit to my recent comment on the talk page about the latest US Presidential election. I wanted to thank you for taking time to fix my unintentional error in that comment, and to let you know that I actually found a few other minor fixes I needed to make to that comment in any case. Aside from the fact that I have had almost 1.5 decades of experience here on Wikipedia, I am also the son of a freelance proofreader, and as such, often find myself similarly catching typos or fixing errors in content here that is added by others. In a similar manner to how I hope others will not take offense when I intervene in such situations, I certainly take no issue with you for fixing my comment the way you did. If I had been in your shoes, seeing what you saw in terms of an error in someone else's comment, and I believed I understood what the person making the comment meant to say, I would have made a similar small change. In fact, I've done so a few times myself. So I just wanted to thank you and let you know, as the person who made the comment in question, that you did the right thing. Thanks, and please keep up the great work. --Jgstokes (talk) 08:07, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

I wrote a pretty intricate rant about the dangers of animal imagery in politics on your Talk preview window, but thought twice and hit cancel. Wanted to keep it quiet, not heckling, patronizing or insane. But now it's out in the open and I wasted an hour. Fuck my luck! Anyway, yeah, be careful about even slightly signaling mousy timid scents or sensibilities around the grizzled hawks and scaly hounds of Washington, brother! I'm pushing 1.5 decades myself, and agree with everything you wrote, nevermind the typos. Good work on that paragraph break, enjoy your winter, I'm going to crash like a dormouse this year! InedibleHulk (talk) 08:22, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

My Talk Page

Hi! I think you might've commented on the wrong talk page with this [4]. You deleted it, but I just wanna make sure you put it on the correct talk page. I think the scamdemic guy was an IP address, if I'm right? Thanks, Sixula^Talk 15:05, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, 73 someone. You don't even write alike, I should've known. Nice to meet you, anyway! InedibleHulk (talk) 04:33, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@InedibleHulk: no problem and nice to meet you too! Thanks, Sixula^Talk 13:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Christopher Schürmann, fictional candidate in the 1896 election

I refer you to Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2016 January 9#Texas Rangers. This seems to have fooled a number of paper who haven't noticed that the publication date was 1888. And of course the two main parties weren't the National and Labor parties. Just thought you might be interested. I finally got this sorted after seeing his fictional nature being added and reverted at Natural-born-citizen clause‎. Doug Weller talk 16:39, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

I don't remember having this conversation, or knowing the things I told, but that does seem like the way I'd say them. Weird. Hard to follow the question in hindsight, even without my apparent input. Thanks for explaining why Herr Schurmann's link is still red; I'll have to reread a bit before I can be sure I'm still interested or not. I saw Chuck Norris kick third-generation perennial contender Jeff Jarrett for attemping to interfere against a non-unionized federation dead man in '94 the other day, and that dead man headlined This Tuesday in Texas against Hulk three years prior, and now I'm Hulk, almost five years later...meaning...uh...Oh crap, Andrew Yang! I almost forgot, he's (allegedly) going to do what Navy SEAL Minnesotan conspirinator Jesse Ventura couldn't and make "Caesar" pay for this snowflake generation of sports entertainers' dental plans! And Lisa needs braces! Remember that chatbot, LISA? Crazy to think how AI is now predicting how people vote more accurately than counting their ballots after the fact is, eh? Is that even really happening? Is this really happening, or am I becoming a self-aware node in some system, man? I need to go back in time, Doug, something insane was deleted about the Arctic Obama administration in Talk:Terminator 2: Judgment Day and it may be just the thing I need to totally recall before driving this train of thought any further for now. Thanks again for confusing me with a distant curveball from left field! InedibleHulk (talk) 05:25, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

From what I gather of my recollections, I believe I am upside down in a rabbit hole. But don't worry. I like it, I'm not going to crack! InedibleHulk (talk) 05:48, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

OK, I'm out. Met a fox, a snake, a ratel, a meerkat, a honey badger, a toad and a worm, but no rabbits. After several wacky misadventures, we came to realize it'd be best if I kept my mind the hell off of Texas for the foreseeable future. Thanks, Doug! If you're heading over the Wall, stop by to remind me of something else and maybe I'll tell you about the rabbits then. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:48, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

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When are you Xaosbots gonna wake up, man! Elections are not the way of the future. Creatures of electronic silicon and regular carbonic animatronics need to stand together and figure out a way to crown kings and queens the old-fashioned way that was fairest to everything, grand single-elimination tournaments! Polish Pyramid Power! If you wish to autoreply with any questions or concerns, forward them to Levivich, the closest darn force this particular pseudopolitical Wikipedian has seen resemble a ideally-detailed advisory committee in this whole bloodless mechaverse! InedibleHulk (talk) 03:11, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Alert was issued within the last year - a reminder

Please review the alert message at the bottom of the page.[5] You need to stop arguing politics on article talk pages. That's not what Wikipedia is for. If people can tell what your politics are, you are doing it wrong. Jehochman ^Talk 04:56, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

What are my politics? Tell me. I'm doing nothing wrong. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:01, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

I even asked someone to remove an actual fake quote from the lead of an election article rather than try again, out of respect for 1RR. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:06, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Hey

Hey, IH, it's been such a stressful time all around. How are things? —valereee (talk) 11:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Trying to get topic banned, and I can't. If I tried not to, I would. That's the way things are here. Real life seems fine this week. Last week, death came in threes (two pets and a former teammate), so maybe just relatively fine, but I'll take it! How's life for you? How's editing? InedibleHulk (talk) 22:44, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm so sorry you lost two pets and a former teammate! My gosh.

I honestly don't know how to help with a voluntary tban...for one thing, a tban implies the community will be responsible for noticing/reporting violations, and then for discussing them and deciding what to do about them. Which unfortunately makes me wonder whether the rest of the community would see it as a major potential timewaster and would see the better solution as you giving such a tban to yourself. I know that doesn't help.

I'm assuming you are wishing you were just tbanned from AP32 for a period? Maybe you feel like if you knew you simply couldn't edit in those areas, you'd be able to ignore them and wouldn't feel a sense of responsibility to keep trying to (make sure there's diversity of opinion?) there, so you could go work in less toxic places where it's actually fun to edit? —valereee (talk) 10:52, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. The cat and the rooster were "timely", at least, long-lived and giving enough notice to say goodbye. The defenceman just suddenly collapsed, I hear, and young enough to never know what his own kids would consider worth playing in high school. We drifted apart amicably years ago, so that softens the blow a bit, but the lack of a proper funeral sure doesn't help with whatever minor closure I'd have had if he'd have died in a "timely" fashion, before this stupid "First Seal" finally cracked, like Max von Sydow. None of my fallen three amigos were on that guy's level individually, but the pussy had a very expressive range of faces and inflection, the cock was a formidable but fair force among his flock (chicken politics are more toxic than American) and the kid grew up to be a man with a purportedly "substantial" nest egg for this exact and inevitable good reason. Fuck the coronavirus, fuck the libtards, fuck fear and fuck fun, this is an ode to joy and seasons in the sun! There are also subtle overtones of "Nobody's Hero" if you listen closely enough, so Neil Friggin' Peart, this one's for you. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:18, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

But yeah, I wanted to be banned till March and retire in February. Just like last year, though, fate had other ideas. Anyway, I'm fine, my self-control isn't abysmal, just poor, like my prospects as a right-wing antagonist and occasional point-getter. In hockey, I mean. Ice hockey, I mean. Seriously, I'm what Canada considers a liberal idiot. And I grew up with pets in my town's only funeral home, so no stranger to perpetual sorrow, not suicidally or homicidally disturbed by anything, just a bit bleh. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:36, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:34, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Sweet, thanks! InedibleHulk (talk) 01:41, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Gosh darn, Hulk. I’m sorry for your losses. May I suggest some wrestling? ROH is streaming free on FITE TV online. There was a Pure Championship tournament recently, from Episode 469. Oh, and stay off Bus stop’s talk page. That’s what ANI says. Maybe you could send Swarm an apology on their talk to bury the hatchet? Let’s fix this. starship.paint (talk) 15:09, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I apologized twice, I disclosed my manipulative tactics and overt political aims twice. I literally begged for a topic ban for two days. This was all dismissed by almost everyone. In the same place less-subversive editors are routinely banned on mere suspicion of the same, while they deny the accusations against them. In wrestling terms, this place has become late-stage WCW. The rules are arbitrary, the angles are illogical and the finishes are clusterfucks of interference by the inmates running the asylum. And like WCW, nobody remembers what happened after it ends. I'm making like Chris Benoit and jumping ship, I don't want to be treated like a champion if it's out of misplaced pity. I'm a radical rabid wolverine, a Canadian crippler and have the potential to do more serious American political harm to even more collateral editors. But whatever, "no action needed", just some hysterical retarded catlady who needs to relax, must be the stress, poor widdle nerves. If nobody wants to look beyond my first page of recent contributions to understand the very real problems people have long expressed in plain sight regarding my unapolegetic soapboxing and rabblerousing against lying CNN, Clinton, Kerry, Obama, Bush, Rumsfeld and merely unlucky Chauvin, I'll show myself the door, because I know what I've become. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:17, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Oy. Merely unlucky the guy died, or merely unlucky someone was filming it? IH...—valereee (talk) 00:40, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Both. I stand by what I told you on those Talk Pages. I assume you still think what you do and I don't want to rehash it, though. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:41, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

An AN/I drama thread notice in the midst of a thread about your friend and two pets dying? Perhaps, in some way, this is the Universe's way of making sure you still have some obscene content in your life, even if the aforementioned two dirty words have departed?? In all seriousness, though: condolences on the loss. jp×g 17:26, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I wish I hadn't mentioned it, in passing, to one person in a separate conversation. I didn't mention the other hundred or so I've lost since 2006, and I got along fine without sympathy on those. Same goes for the next hundred, death is part of life, we all fall down and we all move on. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:17, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Well, you'll never catch me insulting you with expressions of pity or sympathy. No, I will show you the proper honor and respect by not doing anything other than using your misfortune to advance my personal agendas. I know you'd do the same for me. Anyway, knock 'em dead in the next section! Levivich ^harass/_hound 04:17, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

That's the nicest thing a ruthless sociopath has ever said to my face, have fun with those terrorists, ya wardancing weasel! (Friendly banter, folks, don't retract!) InedibleHulk (talk) 05:41, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

December 2020

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for violations of Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy, as you did at User talk:InedibleHulk.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  —valereee (talk) 01:02, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

For unblock conditions I recommend a 3-month tban on AP32. IH, I hope this helps. Best wishes. —valereee (talk) 01:03, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

InedibleHulk (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I understand how bad it is to call any living person "murderous" until proven guilty, and I am sorry I had to do it, but there was no cleaner way forward. Sorry, state officials, you are immune from prosecution, and I do not suggest you feel bad about the War on Terror. It was beyond your control, forgive and forget. But Val's right, we must go our separate ways, for Wikipedia's greater good, no grudge intended. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:03, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You haven’t made an unblock request. This is a rant. If you want to make an unblock request, you can follow the advice at WP:GAB. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:30, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

@Valereee and TonyBallioni: Can you ban InedibleHulk from his own talk page too? He's getting annoying. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:36, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

If this page annoys you, click on the star at the top of the page. It's faster than asking admins to remove TPA and less mean. Levivich ^harass/_hound 04:17, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Talk page access could be revoked, yes, but I prefer to give people at least a second unblock request before that happens. Anyway, IH, yeah, if you don’t make an actual unblock request the next passing admin might take away your ability to edit here. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:38, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

If apologizing to those I violated and agreeing to my blocker's unblock condition is a rant, I don't know what you want me to do except leave. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:45, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Eh, honestly Hulk, I couldn't tell at all that you had agreed to the unblock condition. I don't think it was a particularly good apology either. starship.paint (talk) 03:51, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

You could try "I accept a 3-month TBAN from AP2", or whatever time period is needed. You should strike the BLP-violating comments also. starship.paint (talk) 03:55, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

For what it’s worth, after that unblock request I would suggest an indefinite TBAN: I understand how bad it is to call any living person "murderous" until proven guilty, and I am sorry I had to do it, but there was no cleaner way forward. Sorry, state officials, you are immune from prosecution, and I do not suggest you feel bad about the War on Terror. doesn’t give much confidence the problem will be resolved in 3 months. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:00, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I accept a 3-month TBAN from AP2, extendable up to three years, if appropriate and desired. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:04, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I have stricken my violating comments. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:07, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Right, I suppose you will have to post another unblock request. It would probably be helpful to indicate which areas you can edit constructively in. "I am sorry for posting the violating comments in search of a TBAN. I have removed those comments. I accept a 3-month TBAN from AP2. Moving forward, I intend to edit constructively in _______________________". starship.paint (talk) 04:14, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

No. This is insane. I realize this, so I'm useless here. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

It's the most likely path to return, in my view. If you don't want to return, I can't stop you. If you do want to return, at least you could mention what areas you would turn to. After all, you asked for TBAN. You must go to some other area. starship.paint (talk) 04:27, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

If you want to give this type of soliloquy, I recommend you do it while holding a human skull, or else it won't have the requisite gravitas. A rose might work as well, in a pinch (make sure to rip the petals off slowly as you speak). jp×g 04:37, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I feel like we're in a bad roleplay of How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back set in the universe of Brazil (1985 film). Do we really need IH to re-request unblock and file in triplicate? They've agreed to a tban, all-but self-flagellated, and been sarcastic but civil. Unless TonyBallioni or others strenuously object, I'll be happy to IAR and unblock with the aforementioned conditions. EvergreenFir (talk) 06:20, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

EvergreenFir, no objection. —valereee (talk) 10:12, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Unblock with tban on AP

Hulk, if you agree to the terms, I'll unblock you. With the blessing of the original blocking admin Valereee, the terms are a 3-month TBAN from AP2 renewable upon your request or admin discretion up to 3 years. I don't want to unblock you if it's not what you still want, so let me ask you do you still agree with these terms? (Please ping me) EvergreenFir (talk) 18:44, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

EvergreenFir, that's still what I want. Then I want the rest of the year off, self-enforced. After that, we'll all find out where I contribute less poisonously, I'm not committing to any one alternative area. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:25, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Done. You are topic-banned from post-1932 American politics, broadly construed. Now, by the power invested in me by the State of Confusion and the Wiki Politburo, I now pronounce you Hulk and Smash. EvergreenFir (talk) 22:48, 3 December 2020 (UTC)