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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Beetstra (talk | contribs) at 09:02, 18 September 2021 (→‎ancient-origins.net: Added to Blacklist using SBHandler). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

    Mediawiki:Spam-blacklist is meant to be used by the spam blacklist extension. Unlike the meta spam blacklist, this blacklist affects pages on the English Wikipedia only. Any administrator may edit the spam blacklist. See Wikipedia:Spam blacklist for more information about the spam blacklist.


    Instructions for editors

    There are 4 sections for posting comments below. Please make comments in the appropriate section. These links take you to the appropriate section:

    1. Proposed additions
    2. Proposed removals
    3. Troubleshooting and problems
    4. Discussion

    Each section has a message box with instructions. In addition, please sign your posts with ~~~~ after your comment.

    Completed requests are archived. Additions and removals are logged, reasons for blacklisting can be found there.

    Addition of the templates {{Link summary}} (for domains), {{IP summary}} (for IP editors) and {{User summary}} (for users with account) results in the COIBot reports to be refreshed. See User:COIBot for more information on the reports.


    Instructions for admins

    Any admin unfamiliar with this page should probably read this first, thanks.
    If in doubt, please leave a request and a spam-knowledgeable admin will follow-up.

    Please consider using Special:BlockedExternalDomains instead, powered by the AbuseFilter extension. This is faster and more easily searchable, though only supports whole domains and not whitelisting.

    1. Does the site have any validity to the project?
    2. Have links been placed after warnings/blocks? Have other methods of control been exhausted? Would referring this to our anti-spam bot, XLinkBot be a more appropriate step? Is there a WikiProject Spam report? If so, a permanent link would be helpful.
    3. Please ensure all links have been removed from articles and discussion pages before blacklisting. (They do not have to be removed from user or user talk pages).
    4. Make the entry at the bottom of the list (before the last line). Please do not do this unless you are familiar with regex — the disruption that can be caused is substantial.
    5. Close the request entry on here using either {{done}} or {{not done}} as appropriate. The request should be left open for a week maybe as there will often be further related sites or an appeal in that time.
    6. Log the entry. Warning: if you do not log any entry you make on the blacklist, it may well be removed if someone appeals and no valid reasons can be found. To log the entry, you will need this number - 1045014199 after you have closed the request. See here for more info on logging.
    snippet for logging: {{/request|1045014199#section_name}}
    snippet for logging of WikiProject Spam items: {{WPSPAM|1045014199#section_name}}
    A user-gadget for handling additions to and removals from the spam-blacklist is available at User:Beetstra/Gadget-Spam-blacklist-Handler


    Proposed additions


    e-book.business

    Spammed from multiple socks, site is just a affiliate link portal to garner commissions from amazon.com. - MrOllie (talk) 22:11, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello @MrOllie, thanks for mentioning me - I have never received a reasonable answer (on your talk page) regarding my edits. For some reason you consider it acceptable enough to delete new content created (including math formulas and clarifications on certain niche IT-related topics). My understanding is you are willing to exterminate any link and contribution that does not fit your personal opinion (however, the mentioned website seems to be a collection of reviews and informational articles as well). I also cannot see any meaningful explanation from your side regarding other (numerous) requests from other users that can be found on your talk page. Your huge experience and time spent on Wikipedia is remarkable and I very much respect it, but would like to ask you for a bit more well-weighted decisions. Thanks!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Miosi042 (talkcontribs)

    @MrOllie: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. We will continue to exterminate link affiliate sites that are spammed abusively, as this one has.--OhNoitsJamie Talk 23:03, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @MrOllie:  Defer to Global blacklist, cross-wiki problem. --Dirk Beetstra T C 04:15, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @MrOllie and Ohnoitsjamie: Handled on meta. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:29, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    linkuppuppies.com

    Bot generated site spammed from many accounts. Pachu Kannan (talk) 10:51, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    @Pachu Kannan: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. I am afraid that we will see this soon globally, but there is not enough (yet) to blacklist it on meta. --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:25, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    topinfoguide.com

    News scraper spammed from many accounts. Pachu Kannan (talk) 11:02, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    theartsofentertainment.com

    Website persistently spammed from many accounts. Pachu Kannan (talk) 11:11, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    ancient-origins.net

    Useless garbage which is frequently spammed and should not be used anywhere, per the obvious consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#ancient-origins.net_is_surely_an_unreliable_source; where editors also express reasonable doubts that this will keep getting added in if no action is taken. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:31, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    @RandomCanadian: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 09:02, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    Proposed removals

    byscoop.com (removal)

    I have just gone through the reasons why my site got blacklisted and understood the way Wikipedia wants the content and the linking. My reason for posting my link was to give citations where ever possible. However, my purpose was never to spam the Wikipedia pages. Also, the warning given to me regarding this was on public IP hence I could not get it. As correctly cited, one of the functions of my website is of a news aggregator and the news published on the site is collected from various sources. The language used on my site is changed significantly so that our users may understand it in a very simple way. The same links of our site was used as citations on wikipedia pages just with a simple though to make the citation stong. Now since I have a good undestanding of what Wikipedia wants, I would reqquest you to unblock byscoop.com and give you the following reasons that the blocking is not required anymore: First: Unnecceasry links will not be added anymore from my side. Second: Links will be added only when proper content addition is made from my site.

    The reason why this will be useful for visitors is: that byscoop.com is an educational website and is in a growing phase. We keep an updated track on latest events in India. Hence we can very much help to keep wikipedia's content updated on time.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:201:4:1845:2415:68c6:8c1c:26ef (talkcontribs)

    Comment 2405:201:4:1845:2415:68c6:8c1c:26ef (talk · contribs · WHOIS) triggered the spam filter on Vijay Rupani for byscoop shortly before posting this, suggesting that the blacklisting entry is working as intended. OhNoitsJamie Talk 02:20, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    The "owner" admits to spamming the site, with the content usually copied from a more reputable site. So copyright issues there. A fair number of the times it was added there was already a high quality reference that supported everything meaning the additional was pure spam. And where they "rephrase" (and it's not much, at best), just use the original reference in Wikipedia and rephrase it here. Perfect solution! Can't see why this should ever come off the blacklist. Ravensfire (talk) 03:42, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    No, you got me wrong. My purpose was never to spam Wikipedia. Also, try to understand the purpose of our website. Our website serves news content to students who are preparing for competitive exams. So we extract the most important part of any news and publish it in 3-4 lines. Apart from this, we also publish our original contents on topics like Banking. So in future we will not do any such thing that you consider as spamming. Whatever links we add in future will serve the purpose of Wikipedia. Hence I request you to remove this blacklist.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:201:4:1845:2415:68c6:8c1c:26ef (talkcontribs)

    Why would Wikipedia use a news aggregator when we could simply use actual news articles from the original sources? (hint: we don't use news aggregators). Your site doesn't qualify as a reliable source for banking articles, and has no use on Wikipedia. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:54, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    You now we are on the same page. See I got your point that news articles can be linked directly from original news websites, so I will not link my news article. But our banking articles are of great use to students. These can be also helpful for the rest of the public if they add some info to Wikipedia content. All our articles on banking are regularly updated by us. So it is a humble request to remove the blacklist and give us an opportunity. And rest assured we will not repeat our old mistake which you termed as spamming.

    no Declined I'm sure you can find other venues to promote your site.OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:39, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    No, its not about promotion. Last thing I can ask is, You can warm me this one last time, and if in the future a single useless link is shared you can block me immediately. No one would like to be blocked on a reputed site like Wikipedia that too for the work done in ignorance. So once again request you to unblock me with this being the last warning from your side to me. Thanks!!!

    For the last time, no. OhNoitsJamie Talk 17:02, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    wowsurigao.com

    wowsurigao.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

    This was black-listed because it was consistently added as spam (see example), not as a valid reference, which I want to do now. No doubt people related to this website tried to promote their site, but I trust that after almost 10 years they have moved on. As a source for references it should be permissible and not indefinitely black-listed because of some actions 10 years ago. Of course, if this website is added again as spam, we can reevaluate. Thanks. -- P 1 9 9   14:18, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    • I don't see how a non-official tourism website would have any legitimate uses in Wikipedia, as it doesn't qualify as a reliable source. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:31, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Sponsored content is not automatically unreliable. In this case, it involves uncontroversial info, rather matter-of-fact historical and geography info that I can't seem to source elsewhere. -- P 1 9 9   14:55, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    I think it makes more sense to consider individual links on a case-by-case basis;  Defer to Whitelist. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:58, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    Logging / COIBot Instructions

    Blacklist logging

    Full instructions for admins


    Quick reference

    For Spam reports or requests originating from this page, use template {{/request|0#section_name}}

    • {{/request|213416274#Section_name}}
    • Insert the oldid 213416274 a hash "#" and the Section_name (Underscoring_spaces_where_applicable):
    • Use within the entry log here.

    For Spam reports or requests originating from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam use template {{WPSPAM|0#section_name}}

    • {{WPSPAM|182725895#Section_name}}
    • Insert the oldid 182725895 a hash "#" and the Section_name (Underscoring_spaces_where_applicable):
    • Use within the entry log here.
    Note: If you do not log your entries, it may be removed if someone appeals the entry and no valid reasons can be found.

    Addition to the COIBot reports

    The lower list in the COIBot reports now have after each link four numbers between brackets (e.g. "www.example.com (0, 0, 0, 0)"):

    1. first number, how many links did this user add (is the same after each link)
    2. second number, how many times did this link get added to wikipedia (for as far as the linkwatcher database goes back)
    3. third number, how many times did this user add this link
    4. fourth number, to how many different wikipedia did this user add this link.

    If the third number or the fourth number are high with respect to the first or the second, then that means that the user has at least a preference for using that link. Be careful with other statistics from these numbers (e.g. good user who adds a lot of links). If there are more statistics that would be useful, please notify me, and I will have a look if I can get the info out of the database and report it. This data is available in real-time on IRC.

    Poking COIBot

    When adding {{LinkSummary}}, {{UserSummary}} and/or {{IPSummary}} templates to WT:WPSPAM, WT:SBL, WT:SWL and User:COIBot/Poke (the latter for privileged editors) COIBot will generate linkreports for the domains, and userreports for users and IPs.



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