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    The Spam-whitelist page is used in conjunction with the Mediawiki SpamBlacklist extension, and lists strings of text that override Meta's blacklist and the local spam-blacklist. Any administrator can edit the spam whitelist. Please post comments to the appropriate section below: Proposed additions (web pages to unblock), Proposed removals (sites to reblock), or Troubleshooting and problems; read the messageboxes at the top of each section for an explanation. See also MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist.

    Please enter your requests at the bottom of the Proposed additions to Whitelist section and not at the very bottom of the page. Sign your requests with four tildes: ~~~~

    Also in your request, please include the following:

    1. The link that you want whitelisted in the section title, like === example.com/help/index.php === .
    2. The Wikipedia page on which you want to use the link
    3. An explanation why it would be useful to the encyclopedia article proper
    4. If the site you're requesting is listed at /Common requests, please include confirmation that you have read the reason why requests regarding the site are commonly denied and that you still desire to proceed with your request

    Important: You must provide a full link to the specific web page you want to be whitelisted (leave out the http:// from the front; otherwise you will not be able to save your edit to this page). Requests quoting only a domain (i.e. ending in .com or similar with nothing after the / character) are likely to be denied. If you wish to have a site fully unblocked please visit the relevant section of MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist.

    Note: Do not request links to be whitelisted where you can reasonably suspect that the material you want to link to is in violation of copyright (see WP:LINKVIO). Such requests will likely be summarily rejected.

    There is no automated notification system in place for the results of requests, and you will not be notified when your request has a response. You should therefore add this page to your personal watch list, to your notifications through the subscribe feature, or check back here every few days to see if there is any progress on it; in particular, you should check whether administrators have raised any additional queries or expressed any concerns about the request, as failure to reply to these promptly will generally result in the request being denied.

    Completed requests are archived, additions and removal are logged. →snippet for logging: {{/request|812508127#section_name}}

    Note that requests from new or unregistered users are not usually considered.

    Admins: Use seth's tool to search the spamlists.

    Indicators
    Request completed:
     Done {{Done}}
     Stale {{StaleIP}}
     Request withdrawn {{withdrawn}}
    Request declined:
    no Declined {{Declined}}
     Not done {{Notdone}}
    Information:
     Additional information needed {{MoreInfo}}
    information Note: {{TakeNote}}



    Notice to everyone about our Reliable sources and External links noticeboards

    If you have a source that you would like to add to the spam-whitelist, but you are uncertain that it meets Wikipedia's guideline on reliability, please ask for opinions on the Reliable sources noticeboard, to confirm that it does meet that guideline, before submitting your whitelisting request here. In your request, link to the confirming discussion on that noticeboard.

    Likewise, if you have an external link that you are uncertain meets Wikipedia's guideline on external links, please get confirmation on the External links noticeboard before submitting your whitelisting request here.

    If your whitelist request falls under one of these two categories, the admins will be more willing to have the source whitelisted if you can achieve consensus at one of the above noticeboards.

    Proposed additions to Whitelist (web pages to unblock)


    Steve Reich — Clapping Music [two pianos and stop motion]

    • This site should be whitelisted to provide new content and promote new insights on creative music making, specifically in the context of the work of Steve Reich (music composer) and the piece Clapping Music.
    • Both "Steve Reich" and "Clapping Music" would benefit from the addition of the link.
    • The specific link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-oEZwWv4Jk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Duarte82 (talk • contribs) 14:44, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    information Note: It looks like you've figured it out, but you were trying to add links to "youtu.be", which is blocked as a URL shortener. Adding the full YouTube link works fine. Kuru (talk) 16:08, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
     Not done, nothing to do. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:07, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    www.chinatravel.com

    I am not sure why this site is blocked. In any case, it has good and important information about Chinese bamboo weaving that I would like to use. The specific link is www.chinatravel.com/facts/chinese-weaving-craft.htm. Thank you for your consideration. Gryffindor (talk) 20:48, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    The blacklisting was logged here and here. Smooth alligator (talk) 21:20, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    So we cannot make an exception to just this page? Gryffindor (talk) 21:38, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    An administrator will probably look at this soon. I was just pointing out those log items for informational purposes. Smooth alligator (talk) 22:09, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gryffindor: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist, could maybe be considered for delisting, 8 years old rule. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:21, 29 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    PissedConsumer.com

    Hello everyone,

    I already wrote to the "MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#Proposed_removals" and to the user "Cyphoidbomb" regarding the removal of PissedConsumer.com website from "media-wiki blacklist". In last comment in "MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#Proposed_removals" section the user "Beetstra" declined my request and forwarded me to submit the request to this page. Pissedconsumer.com website was added to the media-wiki blacklist in August 2016 for the following reason: "As of this note there are about 20 links across the project. The site redirects to "Four Seasons Sunrooms Complaints and Reviews" at four-seasons-sunrooms.pissedconsumer.com/ which is obviously not a useful source of any kind. Both sites should be blacklisted, and I'll gladly do the honors."

    This issue was happened as a result the Pissedconsumer.com website was subjected to 'black hat' SEO attack. One of the tools involved was External Links Section of Wikipedia.org where attackers put bad old domains that 301 redirected to their business profile on PissedConsumer.com. At least two companies wanted to suppress freedom of speech and remove reviews about their business from search results:

    1. four-seasons-sunrooms.pissedconsumer.com
    2. glam-seamless.pissedconsumer.com

    Please, find here more information - pissedconsumer.com/blog/2017/09/negative-seo-on-pissedconsumer-and-its-effects/

    Pissed Consumer has been a trusted source of information for media outlets large and small, and even government agencies, for years. They are involved in more than consumer reviews. They're in consumer advocacy, and they've actively worked to protect consumers from unscrupulous reputation management schemes. Also Pissed Consumer has been the winning side of prominent industry court cases protecting online publishers of user-generated content. Scams we've uncovered were reportedly a factor influencing changes in policy with Google (www.pissedconsumer.com/blog/2016/03/dark-side-of-online-reputation-management-orm/; www.pissedconsumer.com/blog/2016/04/dirty-games-with-dmca-notices-for-pittsburgh-cbs-and-pissedconsumer/ ), as well as an investigation by the Texas State Attorney General. And PissedConsumer has also been active in industry events, presenting at and sponsoring several conferences. For example - https://www.ungagged.com/speaker/michael-podolsky/

    Major Media Press Coverage:

    1. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/10/31/lawsuit-against-lawyers-who-allegedly-filed-improper-lawsuits-aimed-at-getting-internet-criticism-deindexed-by-google/?utm_term=.da826c0768b6
    2. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/09/28/solvera-group-accused-by-texas-ag-of-masterminding-fake-defendant-lawsuits-now-being-sued-by-consumer-opinion-over-california-lawsuits/?utm_term=.7a6044468a5e
    1. https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2017/09/14/the-man-who-duped-google-into-suppressing-bad-corporate-reviews/2/#481c213923c6
    2. https://www.forbes.com/sites/legalnewsline/2017/10/12/law-firm-drops-suit-against-pissedconsumer-com-over-reviews-about-sexual-dalliances/#2e6328330184

    Coverage in other media includes:

    More information you can find here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#PissedConsumer.com PissedConsumer is a website used by millions of people around the world as a source for information before making important buying decisions. So, most probably some of Wiki articles can reference to this website. Also links that I ask to add to "whitelist" would be added to Wiki article about PissesConsumer in future. Links requested to be whitelisted:

    1. pissedconsumer.com/static/about-us.html
    2. pissedconsumer.com/blog/
    3. help-center.pissedconsumer.com
    4. pissed-consumer.pissedconsumer.com

    We were placed on the Blacklist due to the fact that Wikipedia did not have sufficient information about 'black hat' SEO attack on PissedConsumer. We are trying to set the record straight. Could you assist me by adding PissedConsumer links to "whitelist"? Thank you. ElinaSivak (talk) 12:03, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    "Your edit was not saved because it contains a new external link to a site registered on Wikipedia's blacklist."

    The blocked link is to a now closed petition on Change.org

    change.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

    initiated by the biographee:

    Link requested to be whitelisted: change.org/p/chris-gahagan-senior-vice-president-of-products-sell-sibelius


    The petition attracted almost 12,000 signatures, and was hand delivered by the subject to the Managing Director of the company at a public meeting of British Academy of Songwriters, Composers and Authors called specifically for this issue that Avid Tech had fired most of the Sibelius (software) development team. I feel this is material to the article currently under construction and would like to have it freed up for this purpose. Because of the block, the text so far is not published in Sandbox, and so is included below for reference:


    "In October 2012, (subject name) launched a '(link removed)' to try and persuade Avid Technology to divest itself of its flagship score writing application, 'Sibelius'. [1]"


    The block message states:

    If you feel the link is needed, you can: 

       Request that the entire website be allowed,

    Which led me here. I don't need the whole website unblocked, just this link to the closed petition for reference purposes.

    Thank you!

    Chrisdevelop (talk) 14:17, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    References

    1. ^ Banks, Adam. (17 August 2012). Avid hits bum note with Sibelius, 'MacUser'. Page 14. Publisher: Dennis Publishing (London, England)
    @Chrisdevelop: did you read /Common requests? The '(link removed)' can be replaced by petition or by a petition called "<name>" without any loss of information provided. Note that we do not link externally in prose, normally (see the external links guideline). --Dirk Beetstra T C 17:37, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks Dirk Beetstra User_Talk:Beetstra Special:Contributions/Beetstra, I'll check these out.

    Chrisdevelop (talk) 17:47, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Following this up: [1] suggests that inline links to external sources are ok so long as they amplify, don't duplicate, and follow the other rules regarding malware and other items on the exclusionary list at [2]. Would you mind taking a quick look at the opening few paragraphs in my Sandbox, as well as the Activist subsection and commenting on whether you believe the inline links conform with this?

    Thanks again

    Chrisdevelop (talk) 00:58, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Chrisdevelop: Yes, but not in the prose, and rather limited. /Common requests explains the use of petitions. Barring specific reasons there simply is not much use in linking to the primary petition. —Dirk Beetstra T C 04:21, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    tradingview.com

    Hi. I saw a notification on the article about TradingView, mentioning these 4 links to their site. I request to whitelist them, because they are unique sources with official information that is relevant to the article about TradingView. Those links are used to detail and source several statements in the article. Nothing is sold on those pages and they don't require any registration to view the content. Thank you for your consideration. PaulSarutman (talk) 16:23, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @PaulSarutman: per /Common requests#About, we would need an about-page or a full url (including an index.htm) of the index page (the last one in your request). Can you please provide a suitable link? --Dirk Beetstra T C 19:52, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Beetstra: Sure, here you go Link requested to be whitelisted: www.tradingview.com/contacts/ PaulSarutman (talk) 20:48, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @PaulSarutman: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 21:09, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, I have a general question. I see many broken reference links to different websites (page not found / cant find server / 404 error) under financial market related articles (in English), which are not helping anybody. I use and like the tradingview site and see them as a good source. Would replacing any of those broken links mean going through whitelisting requests as well? Could I submit those requests here? Asher999 (talk) 08:01, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Your amendment citing tradingview.com/contacts has been reverted as a bad source. Whitelisting was perhaps not a good idea. . . Mean as custard (talk) 10:17, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    This is one of the problems of whitelisting, links can be used elsewhere. See m:2017 Community Wishlist Survey/Miscellaneous/Overhaul spam-blacklist. I view the act of using the links anywhere else than where discussed here as abusive. —Dirk Beetstra T C 12:38, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    aceshowbiz.com

    Hi, I was going to use this image as an external image on Lauren Ambrose (using the external media template) however I obviously found it was blacklisted so is there any chance the image could be whitelisted?, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 17:19, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Davey2010: I don't think this is really needed, especially when it is on a blacklisted server. I am sure other images can be obtained. no Declined. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:27, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't see the harm in whitelisting one image but whatever nothing I can do about it, When did this place become so pathetically bureaucratic ?. –Davey2010Talk 11:17, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    fivebooks.com interview with Jim Hunter

    I have found a very useful interview with Prof Jim Hunter, one of the academic experts on the Highland Clearances. Jim Hunter, Eric Richards and Tom Devine are the three major academic writers on the subject - all with current or emeritus professor status at relevant universities - and their work summarises and cites much of the work done by other academics working in the field. They stand in contrast to the many "popular" writers in the subject, who tend to express outdated, romanticised or biased views of the subject. (There are some writers who fall in-between these extremes.)

    I would like to be able to use the interview appearing in fivebooks.com as it brings together, and specifically states, opinions that one can readily deduce from other works, but to do so might be accused of WP:SYNTH. Therefore, please would you whitelist the interview with Jim Hunter.
    Thanks, ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 22:47, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @ThoughtIdRetired: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:32, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    tradingeconomics.com use of inflation rate chart

    I would like to use charts from both URLs in the article of Zero Interest Rate policy, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_interest-rate_policy Thanks! User talk:polylyd 11/11/2017, 3:28AM (UTC)

    @Polylyd: I am doubtfull here, that data behind the graphs is rather public, but the graphs are taken from the ref. At first glance I would think that the images are therefore 'non-free' (which may be fine as it is educational, but also not fine because it is replaceable). I will wait for a second opinion on these graphs. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:42, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    waremakers.com

    I have created a draft for a page on the business Waremakers. As declared on the page I am associated with the owner, but have done my utmost to write a bias-free, strictly informational page. While doing this, I discovered that the domain had been blacklisted. After some investigation I found that this was caused by an intern doing reference-spamming over two days in 2016, without the owners' knowledge. This is being debated on the Wikipedia global blacklist page. I am asking for a whitelisting of just the home page here so it can be added to the draft page about Waremakers. Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Henksluipert (talk • contribs) 14:54, 15 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    If the article passes through the draft phase, I see no issue with temporarily whitelisting and adding the domain to the article. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:21, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Henksluipert: per /Common requests#About, we would need an about-page or a full url (including an index.htm) of the index page. Can you please provide a suitable link? --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:35, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you @Billinghurst: and @Beetstra: I can't add the URL here because the domain is blacklisted! So I have replaced 'waremakers' with 'replace': The index page is only accessible through waremakers.com (no /index.htm version exist). Alternatively the about page URL is: waremakers.com/about-waremakers 08:29, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Link requested to be whitelisted: waremakers.com/about-waremakers --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:35, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Henksluipert: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:35, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    rebelmouse.com

    Hi There. I'm trying to create a page for RebelMouse, but the domain is showing as blacklisted. RebelMouse's old free platform allowed for User-Generated Content that was often times abused by users. I'm assuming the source of the blacklist has something to do with something a user posted. That platform has since been shut down, so there is no risk for future abuse. Can you please whitelist this domain? Rebeldan (talk) 17:23, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]


    www.econlib.org/library/Mill/mlP73.html

    Can your stupid bot be switched off? It's repeatedly posting it's dumb, disruptive, spammy warnings. This link is fine. Why should people waste time telling you what's not blacklisted? If you can't get it right, then pack your bot in and go away. Wikidea 12:32, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Wikidea: no Declined - no reason to respond to requests phrased in this way. --Dirk Beetstra T C 17:59, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    www.justjaredjr.com

    I have found a useful interview with a young actress that I would like to use as source to add his middle name "Elizabeth" in the article. The specific link is linked above. Thank you for your consideration. --Miaow 17:13, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 18:01, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/microarchitectures/zen

    I would like just this specific page of wikichip to be whitelisted because it's the only website I've been able to find that not only lists the die sizes for both of AMD's current Zen based chips, but actually goes into great detail in regards to how exactly those numbers were calculated, which makes it possible for anyone to verify their accuracy simply by using some basic math. Every non-blacklisted source of these die sizes were either notably rounded (aka not truly accurate), rough estimates, or given without regards to where said #'s originated or any way to verify their accuracy Cooe (talk) 05:03, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]


    formsbank.com

    We would like to offer our apologies for the actions of our ex-SEO team. As we've mentioned in talk with Kuru ( About FormsBank ) we have found out that our hired SEO team had been posting spam-like links to parts of our website in the reference section of Wikipedia’s articles. This kind of approach is not something our company practices: the responsible employees have been suspended and as of today we have taken the necessary steps to prevent this sort of thing from happening in the future. We are currently working diligently to undo their actions and remedy the situation. As we said before, Formsbank's objective has always been to provide genuinely good content and deliver quality user experience.

    With that being said, we find that some of Wikipedia's paperwork-related pages would benefit from having a visual sample of the document or concept described in the article. An excellent example of this would be the articles on Shipping list or Sales order and our sample forms that could be useful for users.

    We are hoping that you find our input useful and look forward to possibly contributing to the Wikipedia community. Thank you in advance, Igor, Formsbank team 74.117.180.68 (talk) 15:21, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    no Declined. Thats where images come in handy. --Dirk Beetstra T C 17:51, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    roblox official

    Main site not used appropriately, considering blacklist. —Dirk Beetstra T C 03:53, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Blacklist executed, whitelisting the couple of links that are needed for Roblox. Note, do not whitelist mainsite, that is the one that is abused next to a lot of material on the site. --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:10, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Beetstra: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:10, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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