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Image request

Can someone add an image for Portal:Infrastructure? Maybe a line drawing of a bridge, a highway, a train, and a power transmission tower? Delphi234 (talk) 03:32, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

I've added an image at Template:Portal/Images/Infrastructure. Just change it to a different one if you want to. -- WOSlinker (talk) 08:57, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

standard margin

Please change the first line from:

  • {{#ifeq: {{{left|}}} | yes | 0.5em 0.5em 0.5em 0 | 0.5em 0 0.5em 0.5em}}


  • {{#ifeq: {{{left|}}} | yes | 0.5em 1em 0.5em 0 | 0.5em 0 0.5em 1em}}

The margin on the side with text is set to 0.5 em and should be 1em; 1em is bog-standard on floating things such as thumbnails and infoboxes and this should match those. As it is, text is getting too close to these portal ads. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 10:19, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

 Done; thanks. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:57, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Discussion of a Google Chrome problem with this template at the Village Pump

Lua implementation

I have written a Lua implementation of this template at Module:Portal. It in turn uses the modules Module:HtmlBuilder (well-tested) and Module:Error (written by me, and this will be its first heavy use). Test cases are at Template:Portal/testcases.

Visible differences:

  • An unlimited number of portals can be displayed, as opposed to a maximum of 18 portals in the old version.
  • The "No portals specified: please specify at least one portal" error is displayed only if there are no portals specified; previously it was displayed if the first positional parameter was empty, regardless of other positional parameters.
  • When the "No portals specified: please specify at least one portal" message is displayed, the box size now matches the size of the text.
  • Some special characters display slightly differently, but this only applies to characters which break wikilinks, so I don't think we need to worry about getting an exact match. See for example Template:Portal/testcases#ASCII null value.

Differences in the back-end:

  • The table is generated by html directly, rather than through a wikitable.

I think the Lua version is ready for deployment, but as this template has more than four million transclusions, I want to get this right first time. If anyone finds any bugs, has any objections to the implementation, or if you can think of new features you would like to see, etc., your feedback will be most welcome. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 18:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

I would suggest adding a pcall trap at "imageloc = mw.title.new(imageloc, 'Template')". mw.title is an expensive function (as is #ifexist), and it fails with script error if the expensive parser function limit is reached. (By contrast, #ifexist just returns its false value, which tends to be less disruptive.) There aren't that many pages in Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls, but it does come up occasionally and Module:Navbox already tripped over this. Dragons flight (talk) 04:26, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Good call, thanks! I've updated the module, so now it should fail in the same way as #ifexist. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 05:59, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I made some changes to simplify the code a bit, including removing the lines where you nil out variables that are no longer needed. Unless there's some particular reason for doing this in the Scribunto environment, it seems like a negligible premature optimization. Toohool (talk) 06:13, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, those changes all make a lot of sense. And you're probably right about the optimization - Lua is highly likely to know more about optimization than I do. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:48, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Looking at it again, I did catch one bug.
        local _, imageloc = pcall(mw.title.new, imagetemplatename, 'Template')
        if not (imageloc and imageloc.exists) then
            imagetemplatename = 'Portal/Images/Default'
In this code, if pcall fails then imageloc takes the value of the error message string. This means that the imageloc portion of the if test would actually return true. The code still worked because imageloc.exists returns nil anyway, but it's probably better to make things transparent. I've changed the code so that it checks _ as well (and I've given all the variables more descriptive names). — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:08, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
I've just switched the main template to the Lua version. If anyone notices any issues, please let me know. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:46, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 5 May 2013

I am suggesting that for the Portal/Images/Television image, it be replaced with File:Television.svg in order to make it a vector. Most non-photographic images in the template are vectors.

Fairly OddParents Freak (Fairlyoddparents1234) T | C Member: WP:TVS 19:07, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Would File:Television icon.svg be more appopriate as it looks more similar than File:Television.svg does? -- WOSlinker (talk) 21:08, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Anything works. As long as its SVG... Fairly OddParents Freak (Fairlyoddparents1234) T | C Member: WP:TVS 21:27, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Done. I've used File:Television.svg, as there's no real requirement that we keep the image similar, but I'll be happy to change it if others feel strongly about it. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 21:44, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Perfect. You may however want to talk to the guys at WP:TV and see what they have to say... Fairly OddParents Freak (Fairlyoddparents1234) T | C Member: WP:TVS 23:37, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Cryptozoology portal image trouble


On the Panama Creature article, I noticed that the image for the portal was not displaying. I tracked the imported image to Template:Portal/Images/Cryptozoology but everything looks fine there. The image exists and the name used is correct. Could somebody help me solve this? Jason Quinn (talk) 13:52, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

There was a blank line in Template:Portal/Images/Cryptozoology which I've removed -- WOSlinker (talk) 14:24, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. Ah, that makes sense. Wow! I guess it's been that way for two and a half years. Jason Quinn (talk) 14:39, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

PS I think that image isn't such a good choice for the portal. It's too detailed to be displayed at that small size. Something more iconic like a famous Bigfoot photo or the famous Loch Ness Monster photo would be better. Jason Quinn (talk) 14:47, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Merge functionality from Template:Portal-inline

I recently discovered a template variant of {{Portal}} called {{Portal-inline}} and I think the functionality of that template should be merged with this one. A lot of people complain about the space that Portals take up on articles and how they overlap sections, where they are located, etc. I personally think this Portal-inline template looks very clean and professional and is a great improvement over the rather clunky and cluttered looking Portal. With that said, I realize others may feel differently so it seems appropriate that the functionality be available and allow the editors to choose. Kumioko (talk) 18:44, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Kumioko. Which part of the functionality would you like to see merged? I'm not quite getting that from your description. Are you suggesting that {{portal-inline}} be updated to allow for multiple portals, or that the styling for the existing {{portal}} be changed in some way? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 22:04, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
What I meant to suggest and sorry if I wasn't clear was to eliminate {{Portal-inline}} and incorporate the functionality of that template into portal by adding a parameter for |inline= and |tiny= which I think are the only 2 in Portal inline that aren't in this one already. If that isn't possible then yes I think it would be good to make this template be able to support multiple templates. I hope that explains it well enough but please let me know if it doesn't. Kumioko (talk) 01:16, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
It wouldn't be too difficult to add that functionality to Module:Portal, but we wouldn't be able to just redirect {{portal-inline}} to {{portal}} without going through all 43,000 transclusions first and adding |inline=yes. Also given that the existing code of {{portal-inline}} is pretty simple (and therefore fast) I don't really see a big reason for making that change alone. Having said that, I would be in favour of porting this template plus all of the other portal templates over to Lua if it involves getting rid of all the image subpages. I have had thoughts about replacing these thousand-or-so subpages with three Lua submodules (one for each level of protection) that simply list all of the image names, but compiling the lists will be a laborious task, and I think it needs to be done by bot. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:39, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
I think that sounds like a great idea. If you just need a list of the images I can get you that without a bot. Retagging the pages would probably need a bot your right but why couldn't we just do it a s awrapper template like I do for some of the WikiProject templates supported by WPUS? Template:WikiProject Arizona is one example. Kumioko (talk) 14:11, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I was almost able to do it with a Lua script, but I was thwarted by the need to know the protection level. Lua can't detect the protection level yet, and the relevant magic word only works for the current page, not for other pages. So it's going to need the API, and probably a bot, though I'm not all that knowledgeable about such things. The information I would need to know is the portal name, the image name, whether the page is a redirect or not, and the page's level of protection (none, semi, or full). Once I have that information in some format, I will be able to convert it into a Lua table with the help of some scripting and/or regex. After that, creating the submodules and updating the main module shouldn't be too hard. Any mistakes would affect thousands of articles, though, so it is important that we get it right. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:46, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Compiling a list of images on one page would introduce a disadvantage which is that it will be impossible to protect highly-used image names and leave unprotected those ones that have only few transclusions. --DixonD (talk) 14:41, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
My idea was to have three lists - one unprotected, one semi-protected, and one fully-protected. The module would check the fully-protected list first for any matches, then the semi-protected one, then the unprotected one. That would ensure that new images could be added to the unprotected list without too much fuss, while still meaning that highly-used images cannot be vandalised. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:49, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Fortunately new portals aren't added or removed all that often and the images don't change that much either so it shouldn't be to much work to keep updated even if the whole list is fully protected. Kumioko (talk) 16:19, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Image request

Can someone add an image to the Royalty Portal since it currently has none? My suggestion for an image would be File:Crown of Saint Edward.svg being that it's not overly intricate (as compared to File:Russian Imperial Crown.svg for example) and it's a vector image. It's also the first image on commons for Category:Royalty. Thank you, — -dainomite   03:17, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Done I created Template:Portal/Images/Royalty. If you want to add more portal images in the future, you can just create the subpage yourself; no need for an edit request. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 03:43, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you kind sir. — -dainomite   04:01, 26 July 2013 (UTC)


Note: I have moved this thread from Module talk:Portal in an effort to keep the discussion centralised. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:57, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Is it possible to rewrite that template using this module? It shares a part of logic. --DixonD (talk) 05:26, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

It would be possible with a little tweaking, but I don't think there would really be much point. Portal-inline is quite a simple template, and we wouldn't get any real performance gains from porting it to Lua. I don't think there's any need for increased functionality either (though correct me if I'm wrong). — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 18:53, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 27 July 2013

I've found some vector images, which can be better to illustrate its topics.

Please replace this:

  1. File:Eiffel tower.svg (for paris portal)
  2. File:Free Software Portal Logo.svg (for free software portal)
  3. File:Blank television set.svg (for Television portal)
  4. File:Friendly stickman.svg (for Fictional characters portal) per much better image from its portal page

--Rezonansowy (talk) 20:38, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

DoneMr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Last changes

Is the last change a good idea? It means that every time a portal changes images, all the 5000000 pages has to be refreshed. (talk) 14:37, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

It does have that disadvantage, yes. However, it should be faster than using subpages for each portal, and doesn't increment the expensive function count. If changes to portal images are very frequent, then it might be worth switching back to the old system, though. I suggest we wait and see how many requests come in - it will be easier to assess which way of doing things is better after we have some solid data. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:06, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Portal request

Please add Portal:Patna to this list? img-File:Biskoman Bhawan ,patna.jpg

SHIVAM SETU ([[User:|U]]-T-C-E) 09:33, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

@Shivamsetu: Sorry, but the image you've specified isn't acceptable as it has a watermark - see WP:WATERMARK for the policy on this. Are there any non-watermarked images which can be used instead? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:55, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the notice Mr. Stradivarius. Ok how about this one? File:Biskoman Bhawan Patna.jpg SHIVAM SETU (U-T-C-E) 10:39, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
That's definitely better. But come to think about it, how about using something which will be more recogniseable at small resolutions, like File:Gandhi Setu Bridge in Patna, India.jpg? this is what they would look like at portal size:
Portal icon
Even better would be to have something in svg format, though, as that would look fine whatever the resolution. Let me know what you think. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:19, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Sir, or add this one

(Image from Buddha Smriti Park, a famous park in Patna.) SHIVAM SETU (U-T-C-E) 12:33, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

File:Buddha Park Patna.JPG is quite good in terms of contrast, but it's a shame that it's still being built in that photo. The other two aren't so easy to see at small resolutions. How about the Golghar? File:Golghar, Patna, 1888.jpg - Golghar, Patna, 1888.jpgMr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:00, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Totally agree with your suggestion. Thanks Mr. Stradivarius for your clear explanation. SHIVAM SETU (U-T-C-E) 11:34, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Ok, Done. Sorry to keep you waiting! — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 17:15, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Image request

Can someone change the image alais for Portal:Muppets from the currently outdated one to the new logo? The new one is being used to identify the franchise now, as well as the image being used to represent the main article. ~ Jedi94 (talk) 20:55, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but we can't accept fair use images for portals - they have to be available under a free licence. The old one is probably your best bet, as it is simple enough that it doesn't fall under copyright. The new one is complicated enough that it looks copyrightable to me, and it is listed as fair use on the file description page. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:47, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

need Image removed from Module

["city of port of spain"] = "POScrest.jpg",

needs removed from Module:Portal/images as it is non-free. Werieth (talk) 12:46, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Partly done: I've replaced it with File:POS Academy for the Performing Arts 03 2012 0960.JPG, so that there is at least some picture there rather than the default image. If anyone wants to use a different image, though, I have no objections. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:15, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

South Sudan

Portal:South Sudan should get image File:Flag of South Sudan.svg. --Soman (talk) 04:50, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

DoneMr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:55, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Portal module Image update request for ACC

Can someone please update the image for "acc" to "ACC Map crop 2014.png"? The image of the map that is in use is now out of date as the conference has expanded. Thank you! CrazyPaco (talk) 23:53, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Done. I did this during the move to the new module code you can see mentioned below. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:33, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Remove image

Please remove the line: ["maharashtra"] = "Seal of Maharashtra.png",

from Module:Portal/images/m. The file doest exist. Werieth (talk) 18:01, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Partly done: I've replaced it with a map image, rather than removing it. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 22:05, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

New Image

We have a new portal Portal:Calgary ... could I get someone to add File:Flag of Calgary, Alberta.svg for its personal image. Thank you -- Moxy (talk) 07:49, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Actually, better question, why do we have all of these, when this template doesn't call them anymore? 117Avenue (talk) 23:42, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
They are still used by {{Portal bar}} and {{Related portals2}}, possibly others. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:17, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm actually hoping to fix that today, by adding a function to Module:Portal that returns only the image name. Watch this space... — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:43, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Done. Ok, the new version is now up. Portal image names can now be accessed from the module. For example, {{#invoke:portal|image|Calgary}} produces Flag of Calgary, Alberta.svg. The next step is to update all the other portal templates to use this function, which I should get round to tomorrow. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 16:16, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
It now works because you added Calgary to the module, Template:Portal/Images/Calgary is not being used. I am I right in assuming that because you haven't added the pre-Lua function to look for a Template:Portal/Images/... page you want to reserve the ability to change portal images to administrators? Perhaps that's the wrong tone, but I am shocked that this hasn't been brought up yet. 117Avenue (talk) 02:44, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
This does have the effect that only administrators can add, edit, and remove portal images, yes. I see this as an unfortunate side-effect of the move to Lua, though, and not something I want in particular. It is possible to write Lua code that accesses the old Template:Portal/Images/... pages, and indeed there was code in the first version of the module that did exactly this. The problem is that it's not very good from a coding standpoint. If we access the old image pages, we have to do so through the MediaWiki parser, which is a lot slower than using native Lua functions. And if we store several image names in one module, as is the case now, then each of them will have several thousand transclusions, which necessitates protection. I suppose we could change it to a system where each portal gets its own image module written in native Lua code. The code would be fairly simple; for example, for Portal:Art the module would just consist of:
return "Ballerina-icon.jpg"
There are about 1500 portal images in use, though, so this would need a bot to do properly. And because it would need to protect the module pages as well, it would have to be an adminbot. And also, having 1500 image subpages is hard to maintain; the current system of 28 subpages is a lot more manageable in that respect. That said, if people are unhappy with my technical choices here, we can always talk through the other options. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:35, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
I see. Thanks, 117Avenue (talk) 02:08, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Missing images

Here are some suggestions for portal images. I'm working from this report, to find "Related portal" boxes displaying the default icon.


Suggested images

That leaves Portal:Social sciences and Portal:Software Testing, for which I can't think of an image right now. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:26, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

How about File:DrustveneNauke.png for social sciences, and File:Green bug and broom.svg for software testing? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 22:04, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes, why not? -- John of Reading (talk) 06:23, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Ok, all added, apart from Portal:Himalaya region which already existed in the form of Portal:Himalayas. I added it as an alias instead. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:21, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

De link images

Have noticed many many many images attached to theses portals were being vandalized or replaced. After some investigating come to find out that if someone clicks on the image in the portal box it takes them to the image ...not the portal they wish to see. We need to fix this as the space to click on is so small ....cant have 40 percent of the space in theses small boxes linking to the image that is there. Need to go back to old format - that is even if you click the image it takes you to the portal -- Moxy (talk) 22:52, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

@Moxy: See #Image attribution above. A [rather complicated] workaround would be for the module to tell the templates whether the selected image is public domain. This would lead to inconsistencies that would trip up the readers. An easier workaround, but disruptive in the short term, would be to remove all the CC-BY and GFDL images from the lists in the module, and insist that all portal images have to be public domain images from here on. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:30, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Would protecting the images work as a solution? We could get a bot to upload them all locally and then protect them with cascading protection. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:25, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
I've just created Template:Portal/doc/all, which uses Module:Portal/sandbox to create a portal box with all existing portal images. This could be used for cascading protection - but again, it won't do much good if the images themselves are on Commons. This page might also be useful for visually checking the images that we use (I already found one glaring error). The red links are deceptive though, as there is no way for the module to know the proper capitalisation of the portal name, so as a quick hack I just did the Lua equivalent of {{ucfirst:}}. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:04, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

TfD discussion

It has been proposed that {{portal}} be merged with {{portal bar}}. You are invited to leave comments at the TfD discussion. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:26, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Image edit request on 7 September 2013

WonderBoy1998 (talk) 14:04, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

DoneMr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 17:41, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

non-free image

Please remove

["luton"] = "Luton_Crest.jpg",

from Module:Portal/images/l Werieth (talk) 18:58, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

 Done -- WOSlinker (talk) 19:22, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Image edit request on 13 September 2013

Would an admin be kind enough to add File:Estelada blava.svg as the image for Portal:Catalonia? Thank you, — -dainomite   23:08, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

@Dainomite: It looks like there are already a few aliases for this portal. Portal:Catalonia and Portal:Catalan already redirect to Portal:Catalan-speaking countries, and at the moment Portal:Catalan and Portal:Catalan-speaking countries have the portal image File:Penó de la Conquesta.svg. This should probably be changed to just having "Catalan-speaking countries" in Module:Portal/images/c, with "catalan" and "catalonia" as aliases at Module:Portal/images/aliases. But which image would you like? The existing image of File:Penó de la Conquesta.svg, or the one you proposed, File:Estelada blava.svg? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:57, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
@Mr. Stradivarius: Oh shucks, hrmm, would you mind replacing the current image with the one I proposed? Thanks for your speedy reply. — -dainomite   01:57, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Done. All should be working now. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:33, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Image edit request on 16 September 2013

We have a new portal Portal:Regina ... could I get someone to add File:Flag of Regina.svg for its personal image. Thank you -- Cpottruff 16 Spetember 2013 (UTC)

Done. By the way, you need to set the "answered" parameter in {{edit protected}} to "no", or leave it out altogether, otherwise admins won't notice your request. I only saw it because I happened to be watching this page. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:02, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Image attribution

According to Help:Visual file markup there should be restrictions on which images can be used as clickable portal links: "Unless the file is public domain attribution must be provided in some other fashion". This rule hasn't been enforced; should it? I started looking through Module:Portal/images/j and found about half of them have CC-BY and/or GFDL licenses. The template documentation needs to say which licenses are acceptable. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:55, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

The images are clickable (at least the ones that are output by {{portal}}), so attribution is provided by the image description page. So there is no problem with images licensed CC-BY-SA/GFDL. It's probably a good idea to note in the docs that we can't accept free fair-use images, though. I'll go and do that now. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:17, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
This won't be popular, but I've updated {{Related portals}}, {{Related portals2}} and {{Portal bar}} so that the icons link to their file page and not to the portal. {{Portal-inline}} is protected - would you mind removing the "link=<nothing>" from that template? -- John of Reading (talk) 10:07, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Done. Sorry for the delay - was distracted by a few things. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:06, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Two new portals need images

There's two new portals that need images if an admin would be kind enough and add images onto their pages

Nairobi123 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Done. I've added a demonstration above as well. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:13, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Image edit request on 6 October 2013

Could an admin please change out the image for the American Civil War portal? It currently displays a barnstar image for the image when here is the same image without the barnstar.. File:United states confederate flag hybrid.png. Thank you, — -dainomite   23:00, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Essentially that would be a revert of this edit. Might be worth asking MarcusBritish (talk · contribs) why that was done. --Redrose64 (talk) 06:41, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
I've made the change. Can't really think why the star would be appropriate there? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:09, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
I don't remember doing that, but I can see from the replaced portal image that it is poorly toned, so I probably uploaded or linked to the wrong one a year ago, as American flags are red not that disgusting magenta/hot pink tone. I have uploaded a retoned one to Commons. Ma®©usBritish{chat} 11:00, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply but thank you User:MarcusBritish for fixing that file. —  dainomite   01:07, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Image edit request on 11 October 2013

Could an admin add File:Saxophone 01.svg as the image of Portal:1920s and File:Fifties jukebox.png for Portal:1950s? Thank you, Bleff (talk) 00:25, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

@Bleff: That's a good image for the 50s, but I'm not sure about the saxophone - as far as I'm aware saxophone jazz music didn't become popular until the swing era in the 1930s and 40s. But maybe there's something I'm missing here? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:49, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
@Mr. Stradivarius: I proposed the saxophone beacause the 1920s are also often referred to as the Jazz Age. I didn't know if saxophone jazz was popular, perhaps a trumpet like this one File:Trumpet01.svg would be better. Or any other image that isn't jazz-related but represents the 20s.--Bleff (talk) 22:21, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
I'd go with the trumpet - Louis Armstrong pre-dates Charlie Parker --Redrose64 (talk) 22:31, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Ok, Done. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:33, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Image edit request on 12 October 2013

on Module:Portal/images/m, could someone add "File:Marion County FL Seal.png" for the marion county, florida portal please? CentralFloridian (talk) 04:41, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Do we really have portals for U.S. counties? Cities like Miami I can understand; in fact, looking through Category:United States portals by state or territory I don't see any other portals for counties that do not include large cities. Marion County, Florida doesn't seem to be particularly populous - it seems to be ranked 15th by population at List of counties in Florida. I may be wrong: but I don't think that it deserves a portal of its own. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:45, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Not done: per Redrose's comment. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:54, 14 October 2013 (UTC)


I've nominated this and all its subtemplates for deletion. Please direct any comments to Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 October 14#Template:Portal/Images. Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:14, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Image edit request

A new portal needs an image

Nairobi123 22 October 2013 (UTC)

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:54, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Image edit request on 26 October 2013

The image File:Clock Tower - Palace of Westminster, London - May 2007 icon.png has been created to replace File:Clock Tower - Palace of Westminster, London - May 2007.jpg as the icon for Portal:London as the latter file is hard to identify when reduced to the size of an icon; could the relevant change please be made to the documentation at Module:Portal/images/l? Ham 20:43, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:31, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Image edit request on 7 November 2013

Would you please delete the following line from "Module:Portal/images/d":

["dravidian"] = "Dravidian people.png",

The image "Dravidian people.png" was deleted from Wikimedia Commons on 27 October 2013 due to lack of source information. Also, there is no portal called "Dravidian portal", although the one called "Portal:Dravidian civilizations" was created way back on 17 August 2007‎. This is part of a backlog reduction project at Category:Articles with missing files. Thanks! - tucoxn\talk 21:44, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

DoneMr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 21:52, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Face-wink.svg Thanks - tucoxn\talk 22:30, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Image edit request on 13 November 2013

["logic"] = "Logic portal.svg"

Replace Venn 0001 0110.svg by Logic portal.svg, because the Venn diagram rather looks like set theory. mate2code 16:26, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

DoneMr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 22:10, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

New logo for Portal:U2

Please, replace "U2 Ireland flag.svg" with "U2portallogo.png"

Line to be replaced:

["u2"] = "U2 Ireland flag.svg",

New code:

["u2"] = "U2portallogo.png",

Thanks in advance. –pjoef (talkcontribs) 08:59, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

DoneMr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:16, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Catalan countries flag

I would like to revert the changes made because of this thread: #Image edit request on 13 September 2013. The previous flag representing the Catalan Countries (Senyera) has been replaced by the separatist one (Estelada). It does not seem a trivial nor a neutral change. Thanks in advance. Paucabot (talk) 19:12, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for letting me know about the background here. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:02, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks to you. Paucabot (talk) 09:33, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Image edit request on November 24

Please change the image for the portal "Portal:Military of the United States" to "File:Pentagon satellite image.jpg". The image "File:Flag of the United States.svg" is used already for both portals "United States" and "Military of the United States".

tahc chat 06:56, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with having the same image for two different portals, but I can see a problem with using File:Pentagon satellite image.jpg. At small resolutions it's very hard to make out what it is actually supposed to be an image of, because there is not much contrast between the building and the car park. I've made a mock-up of what the template would look like so that you can see what I mean. Is there an image of the Pentagon which is easier to make out? If not, maybe sticking with the flag would be better. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:09, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
I see nothing at Commons that would adequately work here. As simple as we need images to be here, I doubt anything other than a line drawing of a pentagon would work, which would be...unattractive. For that reason, I think keeping the flag icon is the best option. Huntster (t @ c) 07:53, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I've disabled the request. Feel free to reactivate it if you can find a suitable image. — Mr. Stradivarius on tour ♪ talk ♪ 08:00, 24 November 2013 (UTC)


Please add the image used for Portal:Telecommunications icon to links for Portal:Telecom and Portal:Telecomm.

Reason: The word "Telecommunications" is quite long, and spills over into other portals in Related portals sections.

This way, it won't do that, and we can keep the portal location where it is, no harm done.

Thank you,

Cirt (talk) 20:00, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Done. I've added "Telecoms" as well, which I've heard used a lot in the UK. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:33, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! Can you then also add Portal:Telecomms? — Cirt (talk) 02:02, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Ok, done. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:13, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Oh, thanks so much! — Cirt (talk) 05:54, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Image edit request on 28 November 2013

Could someone please add File:20131031 AT14 Heike Manhart 9222.jpg as the image for Portal:Women's association football? Thank you. Hmlarson (talk) 08:03, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

20131031 AT14 Heike Manhart 9222.jpg
It might be better to crop out the background, leaving only the players. When scaled to 32x28px, the image isn't at all clear. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:15, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Would this one work OK? Womens-soccer-icon.png File:Womens-soccer-icon.png Hmlarson (talk) 23:24, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 Done I think. Let me know if there is anything else that needs to be done here. Technical 13 (talk) 01:09, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Military of Australia

The image File:Adf.jpg for the portal 'Military of Australia' was deleted from commons 4 December 2013

Not sure what the original showed but I assume Adf stood for Australian Defence Force so replacing the image with File:Autriservice.gif would seem to fit the requirements.

Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:29, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid that File:Autriservice.gif won't do, because it is a "fair use" image. We can't use those just for decoration. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:12, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Hmm - I should have noticed that. Maybe it should be changed for File:Flag of Australia (converted).svg then unless (until) someone suggests something else. KylieTastic (talk) 15:27, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 Done -- John of Reading (talk) 21:51, 4 December 2013 (UTC)


Could someone please add the image File:Urdu example.svg for the Urdu portal? Cheers, Mar4d (talk) 14:19, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done -- John of Reading (talk) 14:33, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. Mar4d (talk) 14:43, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

/* Flag of Sindh Province.png */ +

Please replace it by the SVG, for deleting the duplicate.--Antemister (talk) 19:21, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Done here. LittleMountain5 19:32, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Short description below

Please see Template:Portal/sandbox2. I think the portal box should have this description below, which informs what this box is, so propose to add it. Please comment. --Rezonansowy (talkcontribs) 17:27, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

OK, I think there's no Conflict of interest, so edit-protected. --Rezonansowy (talkcontribs) 11:43, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
I don't think this is necessary. It's pretty obvious what a portal is after you click through to an individual portal page, and if anyone is in any doubt then there your link is included at the top of many portal pages anyway (e.g. at Portal:Art). — Mr. Stradivarius on tour ♪ talk ♪ 16:19, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit protected}} template. I agree that this is unnecessary. Thank you for your interest in contributing to this template though, Rezonansowy. If you can however build a consensus other than that of Mr. Stradivarius and I, I'm sure either one of us would be happy to carry out your request. Technical 13 (talk) 04:32, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Portal:Nudity image icon

  1. Portal:Nudity
  2. File:Human.svg

Please add File:Human.svg as the portal icon image for Portal:Nudity.

Thank you,

Cirt (talk) 06:16, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

 DoneMr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:49, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Edit request on 23 January 2014

Please change "Книги_3.png" to "Horseshoe and devil.svg" in Module:Portal/images/f. The file File:Книги_3.png was deleted on Wikimedia Commons on 21 January 2014. Thanks! - tucoxn\talk 11:28, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:44, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Edit request on 26 January 2014

Regarding {{portal}}, please change "Seal of Haryana.jpg" to "YamunaRiver.jpg" in Module:Portal/images/h. The file File:Seal of Haryana.jpg was deleted on Wikimedia Commons on 26 January 2014. Thanks! - tucoxn\talk 01:25, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Not done for now: I've submitted a request to have the local copy of the file restored. If it doesn't go through, feel free to reopen this. Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:58, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Done Since the seal was deleted from commons because it was non-free, it won't be suitable for use as a portal image. I've switched to File:YamunaRiver.jpg. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:34, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Edit request on 30 January 2014

An editor has recently created a new Portal:Trams. We now need to add an image to the links to that portal. Please use this image, which is the tram equivalent of the icon already used for links to Portal:Buses. Thanks, Bahnfrend (talk) 12:05, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:16, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Image edit request on 18 November 2013

As Portal:Miley Cyrus does not have an image, I propose 50px. Thank you, Bleff (talk) 02:19, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

DoneMr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:38, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
I can't believe that this was seriously considered. I don't think it's a BLP issue, as ultimately Miley did strike that pose, but I still think that it's an inappropriate image for representing the portal. Something like File:MileyCyrus signature.svg is a much less controversial choice, and doesn't condense the subject matter into once incident. I propose that the current image be switched out for the signature. Sven Manguard Wha? 01:19, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Done. You're right - I probably should have looked for more suitable images before I fulfilled the previous request. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:22, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 February 2014

In Module:Portal/images/i, please replace the existing image for Portal:indigenous peoples of north america File:Spiromoundsraccoon.svg. The current image has been superseded. --evrik (talk) 04:28, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Done. Cheers, LittleMountain5 05:31, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 Febuary 2014

In Module:Portal/images/s, please replace the existing image for Portal:Superhero fiction with File:Question bubble thing.svg. The current image has been listed as, and will shortly be deleted as, a derivative work of a copyrighted character (i.e. non-free, and thus not usable in this context).


["superhero fiction"] = "Uomo ragno 1 (Small).jpg",


["superhero fiction"] = "Question bubble thing.svg",

Thanks, Sven Manguard Wha? 02:53, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Given that the subject of the portal is a specific genre of fiction, it may have been best to have replaced the image with a representative fictional character from that genre for which the copyright has expired. I would like to propose a revised alteration:


["superhero fiction"] = "Question bubble thing.svg",


["superhero fiction"] = "Beetle Pop Out - transparent.png",

Thank you for your reconsideration. --Cast (talk) 02:35, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

I personally am not in favor of that. The thing about portal icons that makes them tricky is that they have to look good not only in the related portal section of Portals, where they're in the 50x50 pixel size range, but also in portal bars in articles, where they're in the 20x20 pixel size range. The image you're suggesting wouldn't be identifiable at 20x20 pixels. See http://oi57.tinypic.com/155rvgp.jpg for what I mean. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:28, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Right, I often try to check which images will still be identifiable as smaller thumbnails. I didn't realize my suggestion wasn't going to function well, but I'd still like to see a more representational image used. However, I recognize that this is not a priority, so I'll do some work to find a better image before making another recommendation. --Cast (talk) 03:16, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
There may be two or three good suggestions at Category:Sculptures of comics characters. – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 13:12, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately, several useful images presently in that category would also likely be contested in the same way the original image was. Others may be too distorted as a smaller thumbnail. What may function best would be a superhero from the golden age that has fallen into public domain, in a simplistic pose that remains distinguishable when small. Here's a potentially useful one:
["superhero fiction"] = "File:Flame 002.png",
Incidentally, I dimly recall experimenting with this image as the portal thumbnail some years ago. As I recall, it looked well, but I avoided it because the character is too generic to be representative. Given the lack of better options, I think it will serve now.--Cast (talk) 06:59, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Edit request on 15 February 2014

In Module:Portal/images/a, please insert the following text:

["alternative medicine"] = "⚕",

It's the Rod of Asclepius. Thanks! --evrik (talk) 01:43, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done APerson (talk!) 02:54, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
It appears that the module only accepts images, not symbols. I think File:Rod of Asclepius2.svg or a variant would do the job. LittleMountain5 07:34, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 Done -- John of Reading (talk) 08:28, 15 February 2014 (UTC)