User talk:Addshore/Archive 16

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Revision deletion

Hi, could you redact this grossly offensive edit per WP:REVDEL? [1] Thanks. Logical Cowboy (talk) 05:11, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Eh, that's kinda on the borderline of being not bad enough for revdel; nevertheless, I went ahead and did it for you. Writ Keeper  05:30, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Got to love talk page stalkers, unfortunately I had just gone to sleep when you had posted it so you just missed me! ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 08:46, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Bot flag


I hope to fix the bot when I have time so would prefer the bot flag to remain to save my administrative overhead. If I have to reapply for a flag it will become still more difficult to find time to repair the bot!

Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 06:51, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the message and your wish to keep the flag has been noted :). I feel I may have to start re thinking the way I go about cleaning up some of these bot flags as currently I am finding it very hard to follow which users are responding regarding which bots! ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 09:25, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

RfA question

Thanks for the clarification. Though I think it would be perfectly fine to take part in a crat discussion because the purpose of that discussion is to evaluate the validity of various arguments. For the record, I agree with your opinion on the argument itself :) --regentspark (comment) 14:06, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I think in the case of the Jason Quinn RFA I would not have taken part even in a crat discussion. I remember the RFA well, it was just after failings of the RFA process had been pointed out to me, I saw this user who just seemed to have everyone jumping on them because they were being honest. Thanks for all of your comments :) ·addshore· Talk To Me! 14:28, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


hyyyyyyyy — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Hey! ·addshore· talk to me! 11:46, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Did you mean ...?

Hi. Your reply to Q13 concluded: "I feel I have proven myself as a trustworthy administrator and see no reason for this trust to be carried over to the bureaucrat role." Did you mean "... no reason for this trust not to be carried over ..."? :) --Stfg (talk) 14:16, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I did indeed! Thanks for spotting and letting me know! I have spent an hour or 2 pulling links together and writing responses for these 6 questions! I knew I was going to slip up somewhere! :) ·addshore· talk to me! 14:22, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

RfA/RfB nominee silencing

I've noticed an unfortunate and ongoing trend in which there is a significant and noticeable element of silencing discussion and nominees in RfA discussions. In various discussions, it appears that you have simply responded in good faith to speak your mind. Some of the contributors at your RfB have immediately stated that you have "badgered" people. Of course, this is not the case whatsoever. In the "real world" it is functional and righteous to address matters and to point out observances that one finds significant, particularly in work environments. While Wikipedia is part of the real world, it sometimes doesn't function as such. It appears that some contributors to RfA (and related) discussions have made a routine of immediately dismissing rational discourse as "badgering", a one-word explanation to oppose, in response to a person simply speaking (via typing) in a discussion. Intelligent discussion is certainly not pestering people. Good faith efforts to state or address concerns should never be dismissed using a one-letter word. How absurd. I encourage you to avoid caving-in and self-censoring because of some editors misinterpreting discussion as "badgering," which has unfortunately become part of the status quo at RfA (et al.) discussions.

At my (first and only) RfA, which I went into cold with absolutely no preparation whatsoever, I also received some opposition because I spoke there. Rather than retreating and silencing myself in hopes to improve my chances, I instead just spoke freely when I felt that it would help to clarify matters. Freedom of speech is an important tenant in human rights; it's strange that people who contribute to an encyclopedia appear to contradict this so vehemently, eagerly discouraging nominees from speaking. In fact, it's just wrong. Northamerica1000(talk) 08:52, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the message! I still fail to see how my edits have been 'badgering', I was even more surprised that people had said I had been commenting in the same way at other RFA, so much so that I went back and checked every RFA that I have ever participated in (finding nothing). Your comments are definitely appreciated! ·addshore· talk to me! 11:22, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Sure thing. Yeah, it's definitely peculiar to be told that elements of a discussion (note that RfA's/RfB's have an actual section titled "Discussion") cannot actually be discussed. Wikipedia is the only online community where I've ever seen this. Northamerica1000(talk) 19:58, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Interwiki link requests

Hi there. Is there a page/form for submitting requests for Addbot to update/remove certain interwiki links that are still on a Wikipedia? Namely, now that the English page Gloriosa superba has been created, it is incorrect for its equivalents in other languages to manually link back to en:Gloriosa_(genus) (see e.g. [2]). Best, It Is Me Here t / c 20:00, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Not yet! This should get picked up next time the bot gets a list from a database dump! I might try and create such a page where people can submit articles or lists to the bot to check! ·addshore· talk to me! 11:46, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


Addbot removes the 'Orphan' tag from Edgel on the grounds that it is linked to from Edgell.

However the latter is not an article page but is a disambiguation page and my understanding is that this doesn't stop Edgel from being an orphan. If you agree could you prevent Addbot from de-orphaning items that are only linked to from disambig pages?

Keep up the good work! Best wishes S a g a C i t y (talk) 11:44, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

this edit should stop the bot from removing the tag on Edgel :) ·addshore· talk to me! 11:51, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

merge tag does not negate orphan tag

Hi, I just added a merge tag to Tactics of terrorism suggesting that Typology of unconventional terrorism tactics should be merged into the former. Addbot automatically removed the "orphan" tag from Typology of unconventional terrorism tactics which probably shouldn't happen. It's not a big deal, but if it's possible to filter for this, it might be a good idea. - TheMightyQuill (talk) 19:13, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for reporting! I have turned the script off until i can fix this! It's odd as I don't believe the script has ever done this before! I'll try and remember to post here once it is fixed! ·addshore· talk to me! 19:25, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


Ive just had to approve a page edit by Addbot. Shouldnt Addbot have auto-confirmed status, or something better? See: -- Nbound (talk) 16:42, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

As far as I can tell the bot has autopatrol and autoreview build in through the bot flag which can be seen at Special:ListGroupRights. Is this the first time you have had to do this for Addbot? ·addshore· talk to me! 19:54, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, autoreview is supposed to do it--perhaps post a message at WT:PC? I've never seen Addbot before personally in the pending changes queue, though. Theopolisme (talk) 20:04, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
@Theopolisme:, what were you planning on this message to WT:PC saying? Asking if anyone else had seen this? or..? ·addshore· talk to me! 20:16, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Mhmm, so as to determine if it was a freak accident or something more serious. Theopolisme (talk) 21:37, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Yep, first time I have seen AddBot in an edit review, but I have only been a reviewer for less than a week aswell! -- Nbound (talk) 01:13, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
I will investigate with some others shortly ! Thanks for the report! ·addshore· talk to me! 09:07, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
See Wikipedia_talk:Pending_changes#Addbot_in_pending_changes ·addshore· talk to me! 09:09, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Looks like this is all because the edit before the bots was not yet approved. So the bots naturally could not be approved :) No bugs! Just the way the wiki works! :D ·addshore· talk to me! 08:06, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

I'd beat the 'crat....

But if I'm reading your RfB right, that would now be you. Congratulations! --j⚛e deckertalk 00:02, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Hah! Only just spotted this sneakily above the other section! Thanks for the support! :) ·addshore· talk to me! 08:09, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


Just thought I should let you know I got to the bottom of the pinging issue, see here. I added the links after I added the main reply, therefor I did not sign in my edit and it did not ping :D ·addshore· talk to me! 09:07, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Your note is appreciated; the explanation resolves questions I had about the mechanism and helps far more than by just resolving this one specific incident. Nyttend (talk) 12:38, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Also another quick question, do you by any chance have a link to when the whole bot inactivity thing was 'proposed back in 2011'? :) Checkout Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/The_bot_flag and see what you think! ·addshore· talk to me! 08:17, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 73. Nyttend (talk) 12:12, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Cheers! ·addshore· talk to me! 09:38, 6 June 2013 (UTC)


Hi there! I was wondering if I could have rollback privileges so I can use the Huggle feature, I also wanted rollback because it would be easier to revert vandalism via browser, you can check my contributions if you think I am ineligible, if so please tell me why :) Thanks! --PrabashWhat? 02:05, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

I have checked over your contributions and they all look good! Great work with WP:STiki! When using huggle make sure you have downloaded the latest version. Also make sure you revert edits using the correct warnings :) ·addshore· talk to me! 09:36, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

A small cup of coffee.JPG Hey Addshore, a big congratulation to you for becoming a crat. Take this cup of coffee from me. Drink it quickly or else it'll become cold. Face-wink.svg Pratyya (Hello!) 10:44, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
20 minutes and it has been drunk! Cheers! :) ·addshore· talk to me! 11:09, 6 June 2013 (UTC)


I go away for a week, and I miss your RFB...congrats btw. :) Steven Zhang Help resolve disputes! 12:37, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Cheers :), I did just spot your message on IRC ;p ·addshore· talk to me! 12:38, 6 June 2013 (UTC)


Your upgraded uniform.
I think that's a regulation hat as well.

I've closed your RfB as successful. As the result was certainly very close, I hope that you will keep in mind the concerns raised in the opposition. Good luck with your new tools, Maxim(talk) 00:03, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Congratulations Addshore. I wish you success in your new role. - MrX 00:06, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Congrats! I trust that you'll do a good job. AutomaticStrikeout  ?  00:08, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Congrats addshore — -dainomite   00:42, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Nicely done, Addy. MBisanz talk 01:11, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Congratulations and best of luck. It's a Fox! (What did I break) 01:20, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Congratulations Addshore! :) I was a little worried there, but I'm glad to see that everything turned out well. — Mr. Stradivarius on tour ♪ talk ♪ 04:50, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Congratulations! — ΛΧΣ21 05:16, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Indeed, congratulations! I'm sure you'll do great things for WP! --Jackson Peebles (talk) 05:17, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Go take a nap or something...nothing more traumatizing that the 24 hour extension ;) Theopolisme (talk) 06:07, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks all! :) As ever I will try my best not to let anyone down! Also Theopolisme, I decided it was best to sleep during the extension! Now I am wide awake! :) ·addshore· talk to me!
  • Congratulations from me as well. Good luck in your new role as a 'crat. --Meno25 (talk) 11:46, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Congratulations and I wish all the best on your new role. Tolly4bolly 18:57, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Belated congratulations from me! You'll do great with your new tools! Boy, was that suspenseful... Vacation9 19:33, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Congrats and good luck! -- King of ♠ 06:01, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
  • I just spotted you made it :o here you have a pivo from me Beer Bernard 1.jpg and we will have much more of them on octoberfest! Petrb (talk) 18:12, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
And then, we finally, delete the main page. I just need to push a patch to operations/configuration that allows removal of main page by bureaucrats. Petrb (talk) 18:14, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Editing_Under_the_Influence :O ;p ·addshore· talk to me! 11:04, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
  • I think the community made the right choice in the end; congratulations. Mkdwtalk 07:47, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Cheers! :) ·addshore· talk to me! 11:04, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
  • And a congratulations from me, as well. It looked like it was one of those "make you sweat" RFXs, but BAG could certainly use having you as a bureaucrat. Useight's Public Sock (talk) 14:15, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Using my own name for user name

I've read about it and I am comfortable with using my real name as user name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pandiaeee (talkcontribs) 04:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

 Done ·addshore· talk to me! 17:02, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

A pie for you!

A very beautiful Nectarine Pie.jpg I like awarding pies, so I have decided to award you one. Well done for passing the RfB, and also for deleting some of my user subpages at my request. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 19:02, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
Hehe! Cheers! :) Just as I was getting hungry ;p ·addshore· talk to me! 19:36, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MenoBot 4

Hi, Addshore. Sorry for bothering you but can you review my bot's task 4? Thank you. --Meno25 (talk) 12:29, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Approved for trial (50 edits). ·addshore· talk to me! 17:04, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the quick approval. Keep up the good work. Cheers. --Meno25 (talk) 16:36, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Recent CHU

Hi, I saw your rename of User:WilliamTaylorSimpson to User:IntlWriters, and I'm concerned. First, the stated reason for the username change isn't true. Any 'issues' the user has been experiencing are as a result of massive WP:IDHT and have nothing at all to do with their username. Second, I'm concerned about the new username itself, which seems corporate/organizational on its own, and doubly so when you look at some of the references and wording he uses. — The Potato Hose 16:55, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi @The Potato Hose: ! Issues referred to with the previous name are not necessarily on wiki, naturally use of a real name can cause various privacy concerns / issues. The editor does indeed claim to be an author although I see no specific breach of WP:U. The account, as seen by the previous name, represents a single editor rather than a group or organisation (after a speedy google search and flip through contributions I found nothing specific linking to 'IntlWriter'. If you feel there is is a group or organisation that I have missed could you let me know and I will follow it appropriately. ·addshore· talk to me! 17:17, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Hiya. It's more of a nebulous feeling, along with evasion of direct questions about COI that have me concerned. — The Potato Hose 17:27, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
At this stage I feel things are best left as they are (WP:AGF and all). I have added the user to my watch list and if it comes to light that the new username does not follow WP:U as you suspect I will raise the issue with the user. Of course if you see anything before me feel free to point me toward it! ·addshore· talk to me! 17:38, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Sounds like a plan. Have a good day. — The Potato Hose 17:40, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
And you :) ·addshore· talk to me! 17:41, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 resolved below ·addshore· talk to me! 11:19, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

William Taylor Simpson

You renamed WilliamTaylorSimpson (talk · contribs) to IntlWriters (talk · contribs). I think the new name violates our policy against corporate user names. Or am I being too fussy? Please reply by endorsing or contradicting my request at User talk:IntlWriters#Username. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:28, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

First, thank you for 'renaming' as requested. After the rename was approved, etc. RHaworth has deleted my user page and deleted the rename. I continue to fail to see why RHaworth has done these actions. He has previously proposed my writing for a deletion discussion, renamed my article twice prior to that, and now has deleted this page after it was renamed today. Can you please revert his actions. How can he override your actions? Can you please put the user page back as it was before RHaworth's deletion? RHaworth's action seems to continue to be against Wikipedia policies for how a rename is completed. I trust that RHaworth's actions will be "contracted" and perhaps RHaworth asked to cease these continued actions. The user page for IntlWriters was deleted by RHaworth. Please see deletion notice on page. Thank you for your assistance. WilliamTaylorSimpson (talk) 23:40, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
I am currently in no position to really reply, read or deal with any of the above. Please also read the section above this and I will be back in the next 24 hours. (written on an android) ·addshore· talk to me! 23:59, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I have read the comments above and his comments are not accurate or relevant. It seems that RHaworth continues his quest and I might add that I have no idea what caused it.WilliamTaylorSimpson (talk) 00:03, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Your userpage was deleted because it's a straight-up copy of an article. That's not allowed. In some situations, it's possible to have a deleted article returned into your userspace, but that doesn't seem likely here.
This is pretty simple to resolve though. What is 'International Writers' and what is your connection to it? And since you haven't answered yet, what is your connection to Mr Smith? — The Potato Hose 04:18, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Username now  resolved ·addshore· talk to me! 11:20, 10 June 2013 (UTC)


It was broken the infobox. Please give me a chance to compete the remainings. --777sms (talk) 14:07, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Please see this. Please also read my most recent comment on your talk page. ·addshore· talk to me! 14:09, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
I didn't know it would require a bot account, but I know now. I will use it with prudence. Thanks.--777sms (talk) 14:54, 12 June 2013 (UTC)


here you accuse yitan of threatening you, where exactly has this happened? ·addshore· talk to me! 14:14, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I have had enough of this. I tried to join wikipedia to help add articles but you are all bullying me and i want to leave. How do i delete my account?

I am not bullying you, I am asking where this happened.. You did after all ask where you could report such things to. ·addshore· talk to me! 14:25, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I've tried to explain things to User_talk:GossipQueenNoughties but it appears she completely missed the point every time and just kept vandalizing my Talk. Not sure what else I could have done.  Yinta 14:22, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Well if you look back at the conversations you will see.

I am a fan of musical theatre here in the uk and i wanted to add an article about someone i saw in a show and yintan was extremely derogatory in his reasons for submitting a deletion request. I feel he was threatening me saying i would be blocked. He also states "now that was a dumb thing to do" I took this as a direct threat as he implied a consequence. I then tried to be the mature one and reason with him stating that perhaps i did need some help with my contributions but he was not forthcoming with help at all. I then deleted everything and told him this should be the end of the matter but he keeps reinstating it to his profile. I feel extremely unwelcomed by him and as an 'admin' he should be supporting people not looking for fault and being aggressive. I would appreciate any assistance you could provide me with in deleting all matters to do with my article and i would also like to delete my accout GossipQueenNoughties. Many Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GossipQueenNoughties (talkcontribs)

Seeing as this is now here I will reply here. Firstly I will point out that User:Yintan is not an administrator, they have the rollback flag so that they can revert vandalism. Most of the messages that Yintan has posted to your talk page come from templates and they are all worded in a non threatening way simply saying 'could get you blocked' or 'you may get blocked'. "now that was a dumb thing to do" is perhaps a bad summary of the edit but it is generally bad to remove things from other peoples talk pages, especially if they have already been read and responded to.
Finally accounts with edits on the project can not be deleted as they have edits attached to them. Please see Wikipedia:U#Deleting_and_merging_accounts.
·addshore· talk to me! 14:39, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
As far as being agressive goes, the only one who threw insults around is GossipQueenNoughties herself: "You obviously have no life. You are very bitter", etc. I wrote the "dumb thing" remark simply because constantly blanking my Talkpage was a dumb thing to do. Don't read anything else into it. Anyway, to show I honestly never meant to threaten or attack (and I don't think I have), I'll blank the discussion on my Talk as a courtesy.  Yinta 14:46, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Well i do not feel i have been treated fairly or kindly by yintan or his cronies that ganged up on me. I was going to do profiles for all of the people in the show but i dont want anything to do with wikipedia as evidently you condone bullying. I will be informing the police of what goes on here. You ought to be ashamed of allowing such behaviour on a site that actively encourages contributions. GossipQueenNoughties (talk) 14:52, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay, that's it, I give up.  Yinta 15:08, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Looking foward to getting into touch with those who have written or edited the entry about Osvald Siren

I am a PhD student in China doing a dissertation on Chinese Art connoisseurship collecting. I am interested in Osvald Siren's stay in Peking in the early 1920s. I guess he might have visited the most prominent collector of Chinese art in early Republican-era Peking, Ching Hsien( also known as King Pu-sun or Ching Pu-sun). But unfortunately I have no access to Osvald Siren papers or his works. I think if the name Ching Hsien(Ching Pu-sun or King Pu-sun) appeared in indexes to Osvald Siren's works, it might suggest that Osvald Siren might have visited Ching Hsien. I look foward to getting into contact with those who have written or edited the entry about Osvald Siren. My email address is — Preceding unsigned comment added by 鄂鲵叶 (talkcontribs) 15:23, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't think I can help you, you have probably come to this page because my bot was the last edit made to the page. Take a look at the page history and try talking to some other users on their talk page. ·addshore· talk to me! 15:30, 12 June 2013 (UTC)


The changes have been made to all the articles and I double checked the work; there should be no issues on any of the affected pages now. I'll be online for a bit running different checks momentarily. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 22:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Lovely :) ·addshore· talk to me! 22:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)


I had made the remining thing done, and it works good. I did the duty sincerely. Please give me a chance to do it. I see the talk and I promise I will use it prudently.--777sms (talk) 09:04, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

When you next have something you wish to do with AWB just come and tell me on my talk page. If what you are doing is good I will add you back to the AWB list, if it needs a bot I will help you setup a bot with AWb. ·addshore· talk to me! 10:58, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Category Updating (birth/death)

I wish to do Category Updating (birth/death) with AWB. So I tell you on your talk page. :)--777sms (talk) 12:02, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

What exactly do you mean? How will you know when to update the categories and how many pages will you be editing? :) Addshore (talk) 12:04, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Like this. [3], [4]-- 777sms (talk) 12:06, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
I have added you back to the list. If you ever want to do a task which edits over 1000 or so pages drop me a message and I will help you through the BRFA process. Also try not to make changes to templates in the way you did before without first discussing them :) ·addshore· talk to me! 12:09, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Ok. If I need a bot I will ask for you. Thanks.:) --777sms (talk) 12:14, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
np! ·addshore· talk to me! 12:15, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Addshore/Sandbox

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice that User:Addshore/Sandbox, a page that you created, has been tagged for deletion. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 13:08, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Fixed :> ·addshore· talk to me! 13:08, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Sorry but that was one nomination I just couldnt resist :> Also, you might want to use the article wizard the next time you create new pages TheOriginalSoni (talk) 13:16, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

name change

Bureaucrat note: "Are you aware of (and comfortable with) the potential implications associated with using a real name?" Quoted HAL, 27/06/2013 ·addshore·


 Done. The user "Dealondon2012" has been renamed to "JelanaFehmi". ·addshore· talk to me! 11:57, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Please shoot me an email

I just got a subscription request to wikien-bureaucrats that I'm 99.9% sure is you, but just to verify, please send me an email and tell me what your email address is. Thanks! EVula // talk // // 14:17, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

 Done :) ·addshore· talk to me! 14:18, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

WP:Snuggle is live at

The snuggle logo

Snuggle, the newcomer socialization tool I've been building, is finally ready for general use. All you need to do to get started is point your browser to Let me know if you run into any trouble. I'll be watching WT:Snuggle. Or you can also just contact me directly. Thanks for your patience.

See also:

--EpochFail(talkwork) 19:46, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Re: Snuggle on Labs

See User_talk:EpochFail#Snuggle_on_Labs. --EpochFail(talkwork) 01:44, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Alexgriz username change

Yes, I am aware of what might happen- I hope my edits are non-controversial enough that I will not run into trouble, and I can use an anonymous post if necessary. I have to admit, though, I am making the request with the idea that if it gets bad, I will revert to a more cryptic username, possibly my old one. If that is the wrong attitude, then don't make the change, but I feel like I would like to try using my real name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexgriz (talkcontribs) 19:08, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

 renamed ·addshore· talk to me! 19:10, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Bristol Wiki Meetup

You are invited to the Bristol Wiki Meetup which will take place at The Commercial Rooms, 43-45 Corn Street, Bristol BS1 1HT on Sunday 28 July 2013 from 1.00 pm. If you have never been to one, this is an opportunity to meet other Wikipedians in an informal atmosphere for Wiki and non-Wiki related chat and for beer or food if you like. Experienced and new contributors are all welcome. This event is definitely not restricted just to discussion of Bristol topics. Bring your laptop if you like and use the free Wifi or just bring yourself. Even better, bring a friend! Click the link for full details. Looking forward to seeing you. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:00, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Global name change request

I would like to request a global username change now that my simple username change has been completed. The goal is to also change the Commons username from Elcaminoplaza to Peterzapp. Thank you for your assistance.Peterzapp (talk) 05:03, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. Your request on enwiki can be seen here and has been completed! You are now editing from your new username. To get a rename on commons please see this page and add a request (similar to the one you added here on enwiki) ·addshore· talk to me! 21:58, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Regarding Simpsons episode: KABF21

You edited the article of the episode "The Burns and the Bees" a few months ago, so I thought you'd be good to ask. A bit of a dilemma on a scene.

In the episode, at part of the bees forming a beard on Lisa, one part had me worried. Before that, the queen be stung her cheek and then she had hold the stinger in place in order to give off-- er.. "phere-mones" to attract the rest, but Lisa still looked unharmed and it confused me. I understand that a queen bee has a barbless stinger which can be used several times and that seems to indicate me that her sting can be stronger. If a queen bee stings can it be seriously toxic and/or do any paralysis of any kind? Is the queen be dangerous when made contact with, that is when it is healthy? I've never been stung myself, but I understand that an allergy to bee stings runs somewhere in my family, I worry about how dangerous it can be. Anyway, why was nothing else said about Lisa getting stung, nor was any mark left? The regular show shows mainly natural content now and then while in canon running. It may not matter and I may just be getting touchy, but I just can't stand by. Please reply soon. -- User:CastellanetaFan —Preceding undated comment added 02:49, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. Sorry but I havn't actually made any edits to this page! The page was edited by an automated script that is run by me, see the edit here. Sorry for any confusion caused. ·addshore· talk to me! 22:03, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Christopher Dorner

Why has my edit on this true legends' page been removed?

The man stood up for what he believed in and sacrificed his life to root out corruption in the LAPD. He is the definition of a national hero.

Please Re-instate his Hero status on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:10, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. Your edit was reverted during a mass rollback of edits which can be seen here to remove vandalism from the page (not by me). Please note if you add infomation to an article it should also be sourced or it may be removed. ·addshore· talk to me! 09:13, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

cant tell if up for review

So i wrote an article. It said it was a draft and not pending review

So i clicked where it say submit for review, but on that page the actual info itself still has a box saying not submitted for review

but below at the end of the page says in yellow it is submitted for review...i am so confused on how to tell i its up for review or not — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnotherStreamFan (talkcontribs) 12:14, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi there! Please see in the box at the top of the article that says If this submission is ready to be reviewed, click here.. :) Click the link and follow the instructions and this will submit it for review :) ! ·addshore· talk to me! 12:17, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

So i thought i did that, but when i visit my contributions page and look at the article it has a grey box in the middle saying its just a draft, and at the bottom of the page a yellow box that says it is submitted for review....which one is correct — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnotherStreamFan (talkcontribs) 12:21, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Ahh sorry, as said once you visit the link
This will add a notice to the bottom of the page and won't blank it! The new template which says that your draft is waiting for a review will appear at the bottom; simply ignore the old (grey) drafted templates and the old (red) decline templates. A bot will update your article submission. Until then, please don't change anything in this text box. Just press "Save page".
If you look at the bottom of the page you will see the new box that has been added, your article has been submitted for a review :) ·addshore· talk to me! 12:24, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Ohhhhh okay that makes sense. Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnotherStreamFan (talkcontribs)

No problem :) ·addshore· talk to me! 12:27, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Why did you move the Tanzania articles?

Given that the Tanzanian government entitles its ministries "Co-operative" and "Co-operation", on what basis did you move these articles? Cheers. AfricaTanz (talk) 21:40, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi there! My moves of 3 articles today were to clear up another editors 'copy and paste' move. My move was made to retain the history of the article in its new location. I have no opinion on the move itself. If you wish to discuss it you should raise the issue on the talk page of the article. ·addshore· talk to me! 21:56, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
You did not move, for example, Talk:Ministry of East African Co-operation (Tanzania) to Talk:Ministry of East African Cooperation (Tanzania), as my watchlist says you did? ‎Maybe you can explain further what you mean. Cheers. AfricaTanz (talk) 22:06, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
By the way, I do not need talkback templates. Thanks. AfricaTanz (talk) 22:06, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
User:Sundostund is the user that actually performed the cut and paste move (although the creation of the move is not visible as it has been deleted) the action can be seen by the creation of the redirect such as here. This left the history of the page at [Talk:Ministry of East African Cooperation (Tanzania)]] while the article content itself was at Talk:Ministry of East African Cooperation (Tanzania). My action deleted the copy and paste move and correctly move the history of the article to the new location. I also carried out this fix on the following pages and their talk pages:
As said above the initial move was not me, I was simply fixing the move. The copy and paste move was made by User:Sundostund and I suggest you bring up the move on their talk page or on the article talk pages. ·addshore· talk to me! 22:12, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I already have. AfricaTanz (talk) 22:18, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
No problem! And sorry, I am aware such fixes of page moves do indeed confuse :) (feel free to revert the move if there is consensus to do so without contacting me) :) ·addshore· talk to me! 22:20, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Several account names

CHUS name change

Hi, addshore, you changed a user name above. I got to that name change because I was looking at T.A.V, which has been tagged for speedy deletion. That led me to this subpage of User:T.A.V Tunes (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log). Putting aside the merits of the A7 tag, although User:T.A.V Tunes hasn't edited since September 2012, I'm assuming he is the same person as RohanBose, who didn't disclose this connection when requesting a user name change.

This is twice this week that I have gotten caught in the thicket of user name changes, which before this, I never had anything to do with (and as a non-crat have no authority anyway).

Is there any reason for concern here?

Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:23, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

They could indeed be the same person. On the other hand there is no way to really say for sure. RohanBose (initially Amgmedia) could have a link to T.A.V_Tunes but this could be two individuals interested or involved in the same area TAV. The link as far as I can tell is that RohanBose (initially Amgmedia) probably made the TAV website.
I wouldn't bother being concerned over this! :). What was the other username change you got caught up in this week? ·addshore· talk to me! 09:35, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, addshore. See this discussion, followed by this discussion, after which I've pretty much given up. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 00:05, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

You are invited for discussion


As one of the participants in the original discussion, you are invited to participate in the follow-up discussion to a Mass removal of indefinite rangeblocks under controlled conditions. Your views will be appreciated.

Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 06:47, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Name change

Salutations Addshore! I was just hoping you could give me an idea what goes on behind the scenes in name changes? At Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple, I see every few hours admins. doing what they do, yet I always get passed up, w/out comments...I'm not complaining, nor asking for special favors, I'd just like to know what/if any issues are preventing my name change. Thank you! EzPz (talk) 22:21, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi there! I am still thinking about your particular request, also wondering if any other crats have any opinions. My problem is that the name change would indeed leave you username to be very very similar with another account which could confuse people. I think it would be better if you could think of a different username that isn't as similar to the other that you previously tried to USURP to! Let me know what you think! ·addshore· talk to me! 10:40, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
I can appreciate your concerns about the similarity between the names, as they are nearly identical. Atleast from my point of view, I see him as not likely to return after being gone for four years and leaving a post suggesting he was thinking about leaving Wikipedia. I personally don't mind dealing with any potential confusion from other users, if that is an issue. I realize admins might have another level of concern that I am not aware of. All that in mind, given the choice, I do still want to have my name changed to AstroChemist. Thank you for keeping me updated, EzPz (talk) 10:53, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
After consulting another crat the rename has been done! I have also tidied up the other similar users pages adding links to your new user and talk pages to try and avoid any confusion that might occur! ·addshore· talk to me! 22:59, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Changing user name

Could you please tell me what are the risks would I have to face? What you mean by detaching account from global account here?
Thanks a lot for involving in this case :) --තඹරු විජේසේකර සාකච්ඡාව (Thambaru Wijesekara) 03:46, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey! There are no risks. The rename on enwiki only happens on enwiki. You would therefore still have your account on other wikis under the name User:තඹරු විජේසේකර. On enwiki you would have to log into your new user each time. Please see

meta:Steward_requests/Username_changes. ·addshore· talk to me! 10:25, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Oh! I just thought Global accounts will be renamed. :( Anyway, is it possible? If so, please do. (or tell me if should I request/mention about that anywhere again)--තඹරු විජේසේකර සාකච්ඡාව (Thambaru Wijesekara) 11:14, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
As I said take a look at meta:Steward_requests/Username_changes. Everything should be explained there :) ·addshore· talk to me! 13:00, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing me there. We don't have any bureaucrats in So could you please do this for si,en and simple wikis? --තඹරු විජේසේකර සාකච්ඡාව (Thambaru Wijesekara) 16:19, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
I can only rename on enwiki. You need to request on Steward_requests/Username_changes for wikis that do not have bureaucrats. ·addshore· talk to me! 16:09, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Gave up :P Thanks for the help! --තඹරු විජේසේකර සාකච්ඡාව (Thambaru Wijesekara) 16:32, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

BOT for COI Request Edit

Hi Addshore. About two months ago there was a successful bot request to test Template:COI editnotice on the Talk page of articles about extant organizations. I was circling back to see if the template had produced more Request Edits on those articles and realized there were only 40 articles in the category I suggested we test it in!

Naturally, we need a sample size closer to 1,000, seeing as 5 Request Edits per month on 1,000 articles (16% per of them per year) would be a reasonable success.

Is it possible for us to expand the trial implementation to a larger category?. CorporateM (Talk) 14:02, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Where was the initial bot request and trial? :) ·addshore· talk to me! 22:58, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Good question. It took some digging, but I found it. CorporateM (Talk) 19:57, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
As that task does indeed only approve the category mentioned in the request it might be a good idea to file a more open ended task request if you want to expand it! ·addshore· talk to me! 16:12, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
So open a fresh bot request? CorporateM (Talk) 19:12, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
yup, seems reasonable! ·addshore· talk to me! 08:54, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Posted here. I noticed the original bot request said it would effect 1,000+ articles, so now I'm unsure if we needed a larger category or if the bot was never run on the entire category, since he was still doing some trouble-shooting. CorporateM (Talk) 14:13, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Your best bet is to try and get in touch with Riley! ·addshore· talk to me! 08:56, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
He's retired, but it looks like Theopolisme is going to help. On a related project, I'm hoping on replacing the "Click Here" in the template with a link to something like this. People have been talking about making a wizard like this for years and it's way passed due, but I definitely will need some coding magic to make it work properly. Any ideas on how I could go about finding someone to help? CorporateM (Talk) 15:23, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
What sort of coding magic? :) ·addshore· talk to me! 08:28, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Username change request

I am new on Wikipedia, I want to contribute my free time to add some genuine content and information.

Please change my username, Its blocked by mistake. I want to new start sir — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amaratechnofutures (talkcontribs) 13:16, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. I currently am not very available due to a current lack of access to the internet. Please post your request on Wikipedia:Chus ·addshore· talk to me! 08:27, 2 July 2013 (UTC)


I want to add some picks of one Indian politician please help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amaratechnofutures (talkcontribs)

Do you mean pictures? Please see Wikipedia:Uploading_images#Procedure_to_upload! Please make sure you know the copyright status of the image before uploading. ·addshore· talk to me! 08:34, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Regarding this user, please see my note at User_talk:King_of_Hearts#Dick1968 - I am becoming very confused regarding what is going on but am pretty sure that Delhidc1986dc (talk · contribs), Rritu (talk · contribs), Vamindian (talk · contribs) and Tkimtg (talk · contribs) are also the same person. - Sitush (talk) 08:59, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Hopefully this will help. 'Amaratechnofutures' was renammed to 'Dick1968' @ 18:40, 16 June 2013. 'Amaratechnofutures' was also renamed to 'Delhidc1986dc' on the 26th. I don't think this is a case of abusive sock puppetry, I think this is a case of the user does not realise that their account has been renamed and continues to log into the old account therefor recreating it. The three users above are indeed the same person, 'Amaratechnofutures' came first. I will now block two of the three accounts as only one should be used (I will leave the one that is currently being used). ·addshore· talk to me! 08:29, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks but there have been developments since, including what appears to be yet another account. Please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Dick1968. - Sitush (talk) 08:35, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
I have responded there also. ·addshore· talk to me! 08:42, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Username change request

I request you to please rename my account as The One. I assure you that I will not bring any disgrace to new username and I will be very responsible, active and fruitful wikipedian. Thanks. neo (talk) 07:42, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

User:Carly3737 and User:Sticks830

Hi, addshore, you renamed this account on July 2. User:ItsZippy blocked Sticks for edit warring. Carly came along and continued the edit war. I could just block Carly for the equivalent time as the Sticks account, but it seems that more is needed. What are your thoughts?--Bbb23 (talk) 19:17, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Another account has come from nowhere: User:Mike2910. I'm thinking we need to impose socking blocks on all accounts with Carly being the master. For the moment, I've semi-protected the page for a few days.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:51, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Well as a next step I have blocked Carly3737. *waits to see what happens next* ·addshore· talk to me! 07:54, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Dairy Farm Simulator

This regarding Dairy Farm Simulator.

I don't get why Dairy Farm Simulator gets removed while others like:

Still are up their. Dairy Farm Simulator is an unique. It is the first and only game out their that ever was create of this genre being as realistic as possible. That's why it should be up on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatrickNZVDM (talkcontribs) 01:56, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi there! The reason the article was deleted was because the article did 'not indicate the importance or significance of the subject'. If you look at the differences between the article on Dairy Farm Simulator and the other articles that you have linked to you will see that all of the other articles carry references in the references section to other sources, Dairy Farm Simulator did not have any. Try to find some to reference the content in the article and it may then stay! ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 11:48, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

I have found some references, One in particular using which the games uses these formulas and methods for calculate milking times that no other similar game uses this for their milking algorithm -> — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatrickNZVDM (talkcontribs) 15:40, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I am still not sure that this single reference would be enough to hold the article up :/ ·addshore· talk to me! 10:40, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

I have found another reference as especially in New Zealand milk payouts are calulated as milk solids and Dairy Farm Simulator does exactly that instead of others like per liter payout. PatrickNZVDM (talk) 01:36, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

A forum is generally not a reliable source, please see Wikipedia:Sources#Reliable_sources ·addshore· talk to me! 10:29, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Does this count: PatrickNZVDM (talk) 22:38, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

After a quick glance I would probably say yes. ·addshore· talk to me! 07:53, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

I found some more references: , PatrickNZVDM (talk) 05:38, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

heh! you cant use wikipedia as a reference ;p ·addshore· talk to me! 19:36, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Is that enough to hold up the page or do I need to find more references.PatrickNZVDM (talk) 04:21, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

You potentially have enough, though make sure you have read Wikipedia:Sources#Reliable_sources first. ·addshore· talk to me! 07:29, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Will do. Can you please remove the protection of the page: so I can add the references to them.PatrickNZVDM (talk) 02:04, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

If you make a quick list of the references here! :) ·addshore· talk to me! 12:28, 12 July 2013 (UTC) PatrickNZVDM (talk) 05:11, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

It could work, although the main problem I see if that none of the references talk about 'Dairy Farm Simulator' at all. ·addshore· talk to me! 11:36, 14 July 2013 (UTC)


Hi. I noticed your question about past discussions around un-bundling the admin tools, at WP:BN, and was curious. I had a quick search, and found Wikipedia:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard/Archive_28#Tools as the most recent abstract discussion in that forum. I also added 2 more examples to Peren. HTH.

Now back to other tangents! ttfn, –Quiddity (talk) 05:40, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! ·addshore· talk to me! 11:33, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Naming Issues

Hi Addshore,

I got recommended here off the IRC:I have a naming request. On the IRC, due to . not working, my name is Matty007. My username on WP is Matty.007, and I was advised, upon a query, to register the username Matty007, with a redirect to my normal user page, such as User:IDoH redirecting to User:I dream of horses for IRC reasons. However, Matty007 was registered in 2007, see here. As someone on the IRC said, please could you "rename it and let you [me] have the username"? Thanks, Matty.007 11:23, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Your best bet is to jump onto WP:Usurp! I don't have much time or bandwidth for renaming people right now :/ Trying to solve it! ·addshore· talk to me! 11:37, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
OK, request placed. Thanks, Matty.007 12:24, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

IRC office hours for wiki-mentors and Snuggle users

Hi. We're organizing an office hours session with the Teahouse to bring in mentors from across the wiki to try out Snuggle and discuss it's potential to support mentorship broadly. The Snuggle team would appreciate it if you would come and participate in the discussion. We'll be having it in #wikimedia-officeconnect on Wed. July 17th @ 1600 UTC. See the agenda for more info. --EpochFail(talkwork), Technical 13 (talk), TheOriginalSoni (talk) 17:07, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

I will be there :) Just make sure you ping me? :D ·addshore· talk to me! 11:33, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey addshore. Here is your 24h ping. See you there.  :) --EpochFail(talkwork) 15:55, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm ready for it! :) ·addshore· talk to me! 17:14, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

You've got mail!

Hello, Addshore. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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Replied :) ·addshore· talk to me! 08:55, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

The Dan Crary article,

That article is not an autobiography or the work of anyones self interest. It is the Biography of a renowned musician. Yes it needs work but it does not require anything other than assistance. This assistance has been requested on the articles Talk Page. I removed the tags your bot placed on the article and am looking around for a tag that says something such this article needs help. Thanks for your help. And feel free to join in on the editing of this article. Michaelgossett (talk) 22:30, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. By bot has not added a tag on the page. ·addshore· talk to me! 07:55, 18 July 2013 (UTC)


Hey Addshore. For reference, WeldingBot, which you blocked as an unauthorised bot, has also been found to be a sockpuppet. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/LogoSubcheck for more information. No action is required, I just thought you might appreciate being informed. Thanks! --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 23:14, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! :) I was going to follow it up today as I made the block on my practically dial up speed internet the pops in and out of existence like bubble in a kettle! ... :) ·addshore· talk to me! 07:23, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

'Aryan' webpage

Hello,,can you please take a look at what has been happening on the 'Aryan' webpage,,Administrators are deleting all material relating to the Gaelic word Tara as having a possible link to the word Aryan,,even though it has perfectly valid references.They are even deleting material from the talk page and from the undelete request page and they have locked the page,one of the Admin by the name of Paul B started abusing a user also with the word ,Domn't, . Something very wrong is going on here, can you please help sort this out.--Fomact (talk) 23:29, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Username Change please

Hello. I would like my name to be renamed. My current username does give away my name and the year I was born. I would like it to be changed to SweetMustard. Thank You! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timee96 (talkcontribs) 21:15, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi there! Please see WP:CHUS ·addshore· talk to me! 08:48, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Request for attention

You're listed as an active member of the Bot Approvals Group. I would like to draw your attention to the outstanding WP:BRFA requests (including requests that are specificly flagging as need BAG attention). Please take a few minutes out of your busy schedule and take a look at the open requests. Thank you Hasteur (talk) 18:09, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

I will try and take a look today :) ·addshore· talk to me! 08:48, 1 August 2013 (UTC)



I request that my account be deleted with immediate effect, and that all my edits in the past, and past edit histories, be permanently removed from public viewing. Deletion of my account, City of Lukington, would be immensely appreciated.

I hope that this reaches you soon and that you are able to act upon my request.

Yours sincerely, Unknown user (formerly City of Lukington) — Preceding unsigned comment added by City of Lukington (talkcontribs) 20:31, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) This is not possible (see WP:Delete account for more info).  Hazard-SJ  ✈  03:17, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
The account seems to have been blocked after posting this. ·addshore· talk to me! 08:33, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Question on changing account name

Hi Addshore, One of the admins said they don't like my account name. Now that I have a little experience with Wikipedia, I get that this account name sounds sort of sanctimonious in debates. WP:Account says "User accounts with few or no edits might not be renamed, as it is quicker and easier to simply create a new account." How do I determine if I have few enough edits to create a new account? If I create a new account, is there anything I need to do (besides never accessing the old account) to avoid any appearance of sockpuppeting? Thanks for any info -Truthwillneverdie (talk) 20:50, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

If you just post a request for rename at WP:CHUS we can take it from there :) ·addshore· talk to me! 08:34, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Misuse of {{Unreferenced}} by Legobot?

Hi. Check outå

"(cur | prev) 02:00, 6 August 2013‎ Legobot (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (5,820 bytes) (+19)‎ . . (BOT: Dating templates: {{unreferenced}} (1). Errors? stop me) (undo)"

There are tens of references to articles for this profile, why was the {{unreferenced}}- tag put in?

The bot didn't add the template ! It only added a date to the template. The not (and many others like it) do this whenever they find such a tag without a date. These bots generally do not check to see if the tag is still needed, so, that is the reason if is still there. If there are indeed references on the article then feel free to remove the tag! (Sorry I can't really look at this more but I am replying from my phone :) ) ·addshore· talk to me! 16:36, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Need help regarding deleted file

Hello, could you be as kind as to inform me as to who was the original uploader of this file? I'd like to contact this user to obtain a copy of the file, as it was deleted on both the Commons and Wikipedia. Thank you. Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 23:52, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

hi there! I have restored the image as the only reason it was deleted was that it could be found on commons. I presume you are going to re add it to the article? :) if not let me know as it will likely be deleted again. Cheers! ·addshore· talk to me! 16:33, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for restoring it; I've added it back into the article. I strongly believe this image is in the public domain because it was created as part of an official governmental edict and a search of the U.S. Copyright Office shows that this work not registered under any copyright. Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 00:07, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
No problem! :) ·addshore· talk to me! 10:41, 9 August 2013 (UTC)


Addbot moved 5 interwiki links from Political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union to Wikidata on d:q4204204 and left 3 interwiki links in the article. I don’t know why the 3 interwiki links are left. It seems to me they should be moved as well. --Psychiatrick (talk) 23:44, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

The code tried as hard as it can to move any links it can. Without looking into any detail I can only imagine that the links that remain are already on another Wikidata item. ·addshore· talk to me! 16:27, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
The it interwiki does not exist and never has. The no interwiki links to a non existent language code in Wikidata (nowiki is nb in Wikidata) and the uk interwiki link is already on Wikidata and the link in that item is unrelated. John F. Lewis (talk) 19:33, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

I vote to have Fut.Perf.☼ Administrator status removed!

I am sorry if I am bothering you. This is not a personal attack on this guy, but when I was discussing a proposal that I made on both the Roman and Byzantine Empire talk pages, user and administrator [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼] came off extremely rudely on both, closed the discussions on the Byzantine Empire talk page and went as far as threatening to block me from editing if I were to discuss it further. That was completely uncalled for! I brought this up on my talk page and even though this user who has almost as many rights as [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼] does opposed the proposal, he did agree that what the administrator did was abrupt and rude and did not know why he did such. I went on to [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼] calling him out on it and asked for an apology and he has yet to give me one. I have not been a user on Wikipedia for that long at all. In fact, I have only been a user on Wikipedia for 3 weeks. I have never encountered someone who has come off so rudely or has been rude or mean like that period. Many people have also complained to him about how he flags other users contents. With all of this being said, it is safe to assume that he has been abusing his administrator rights and deserves to be stripped of his administrator status. Keeby101 (talk) 22:41, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Keeby101. I have removed the archive from one of the sections you have linked to as it should probably be allowed to continue and pointed the other to the same discussion on a separate talk page. I have also dropped a note in at User_talk:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise#Talk:Byzantine_Empire_and_Talk:Roman_Empire.
Now although you are allowed to open discussions on talk pages and generally discuss anything you think potentially should be changed it does look like you have been doing this rather a lot recently (which can be seen at Special:Contributions/Keeby101). Talking is great on a collaborative project and I can see that you have a lot of energy but it is probably best to see how the first one or two discussions and ideas pan out before you try to roll a change out across the whole of wikipedia! :) If you continue some users may see your cross talk page messages as spam and you could indeed get blocked for disruption.
Just try and slow it down a bit! :), Personally I don't think Future Perfect at Sunrise has abused their administrator rights in any way (especially as they haven't actually used them) so I won't be looking into that any further! If you have any further questions feel free to ask here! ·addshore· talk to me! 23:13, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

One last favor.  :)

I sincerely hope I am not wasting your time with this topic. I will try my hardest to explain this. This is a current edit war that has been going on for a while. I am not sure if I should have gone to a Bureaucrat about this a long time ago or not, but I probably should have as it has gone on for too long and keeps getting rehashed. If you see here: it has been going on for four years. When I was a brand new user on Wikipedia, my first edit was on the Sasanian Empire article and I went on to the talk page of the article to discuss it: and it kinda got out of hand. One of the users named Constantine ✍ came off strong and I fired back (didn't know guidelines at the time) and then I made new maps, but another user came in and complained about the color so I made another map and then that Constantine ✍ came off strong again and then I made another map and had multiple sources to back it up. It eventually came to the point where I put in a dispute resolution request and asked for as many administrators as possible to either come on to the talk page and decide which map would be the infobox image or take a vote on on having a brand new map being made by one of the Administrators or from somewhere on the internet , but it didn't work as the request was closed as unresolved and only one who commented on the discussion was Constantine ✍ who is the main user that I have been edit warring with. User Kathovo has agreed and disagreed on some of my maps. In fact Kathovo has been rather neutral on the matter. Then an administrator named Stephan Schulz came onto the talk page and originally he did not aknowledge most of the sources that I cited so he went on to my talk page and said and I quote

"Hi Keeby101. I've tried to look at the list of sources you provided, and it is indeed not always easy to figure out what you re referring to. While there are many different academic styles to citing, the core idea is always the same: Identify the source in a way that makes it possible (and convenient) for the reader to find your source. Thus, for a book you typically provide title, author, publisher, and year of publication. When you only use a small part of the book, a page number is appropriate. Some books are really collections of individual essays. The Sassanian Era is an example. You can usually identify these because the book has an editor, not an author. In that case, you usually cite not the book, but the individual essay (say Nicholas Sims-Williams (2008). "The Sassanians in the East". In Vesta Sarkhosh Curtis, Sarah Steward. The Sasanian Era. I.B. Tauris & Co. Ltd. pp. 88–102. Retrieved 10 August 2013.). You don't need to use the templates, but do provide the information. Sims-Williams has his own bibliography online here - you can see how the author himself list his publications. Good luck!"

Back on the Sasanian Empire talk page I was confronted by a user named Laszlo Panflex who had been involved in the edit war for quite a long time and I told him that I am indeed very busy in real life and as a result I do not have enough time to those very same books that I read long ago and even if I did, I do not exactly keep track of the page numbers and then I told him that I have a hard time citing the pages and if I was able to do so I would cite them and quote from them and most certainly win the edit war. I asked him to help me try to cite the pages and then he ended up saying

"You are asking me -- no, "everyone" -- to teach you how to do research and cite sources. I'm sorry, but I don't have time to be your tutor, and I have research of my own to conduct in the limited time I do have. You say you are busy but disregard that we are, too. You do not have to link to everything you cite, but providing page numbers is essential. Simply saying, I read it a long time ago does not help someone who wants to look up the source. (Ultimately, WP is a research source to lead others to more comprehensive sources; if you do not cite with precision, it does not help people find information they are seeking.) If the book is online, provide a link. How? Look at how Constantine cites his sources and follow that. Go to tutorial pages (as I have directed you to before) and figure it (like we have had to do). Ask at the help desk where people volunteer to help. How to do research? Google research methodology and read up on the subject. Take some courses -- I've spent years learning to do thorough and precise research. Want an example of how to cite a statement, here you go: "Avoid excessive emphasis: CAPITAL LETTERS are considered shouting and are virtually never appropriate. Bolding may be used to highlight key words or phrases (most usually to highlight "oppose" or "support" summaries of an editor's view), but should be used judiciously, as it may appear the equivalent of the writer raising his voice. WP:SHOUT." I've repeatedly encouraged you to review etiquette guidelines and other wiki-policies (including the page I quote here), but you continue to lose your temper and disregard them. Getting in constant edit wars with people should tell you that you are approaching this improperly. I tried to explain that a couple of weeks ago, but it is simply taking up all my wiki-time and is apparently not helping.

I replied back saying "Alright, understood and actually your explanations to me are helping a little. On the bolding and shouting part, I aknowledged all of what you said and stated on my talk page that I will no longer do that. I will not bold or use caps anymore, repeat, will not do that anymore. Now I have not disregarded the pages you have directed me to. At least not all of them, I disregarded the tutorial pages for reasons I have no idea why and I regret it. Truly I do not mean to bold or use all caps. I indeed have a short temper and I will fix that. Now I will go to those tutorial pages when I have spare time and when I figure it out (which will take a while) I will cite the pages as you all have asked Ok. Peace ☮"

No one has responded since then, but I know that someone will and when that happens tensions are going to heat up again. I put up this map: in the mean time which is from what I have read in books that I have rented from my local libraries (which were the books that I cited on the talk page) and Encyclopedia Iranica accurate. The reason why I am bringing this up is because I do not know what to do about this situation anymore. A consensus has not been reached and probably never will by the looks of the way this edit war is going and the dispute resolution didn't work either and no matter how many administrators I try to get involved to try to end this it won't end, instead it either is briefly calm or it ends up escalating. I truly do not know what to do about this anymore. So I have decided to turn to you and see if you can possibly bring this thing to an end and possibly prevent an edit war like this on that talk page from being rehashed like it has been for the past 4 years (well before I was even a user here). I just wanted to see if you could do one last favor. :) Keeby101 (talk) 01:32, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

P.S. I hope that this is not considered Canvasing. To be brutally hontest I didn't know what Canvasing was until an hour ago when administrator Sowlos mentioned it to me. Still I hope you can do this one last request of mine, I am not saying for you to take my side, I just thought that you will take a neutral course of action and end the edit war on the talk page via neutral point of view. Peace ☮ Keeby101 (talk) 20:33, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

There is basically nothing I can do :) I have no 'power' over consensus. If there is no consensus nothing should be done. ·addshore· talk to me! 15:39, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Addbot removing orphan template from orphaned page

Hello. I recently added {{orphan}} to the article Will McCants, which was reverted by User:Addbot on the grounds that it's linked from McCants. However, McCants is a disambiguation page, and WP:ORPHAN#Criteria clearly states that links from disambiguation pages don't count. (Perhaps the bot couldn't tell that McCants is a dab page as it doesn't have 'disambiguation' in the title?) Anyway, that aside Will McCants has no incoming links, so the orphan template should be restored. Robofish (talk) 18:05, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Indeed the bot should not count disambig pages! The task is currently not running and is pending a rewrite so I will make sure this case is taken into account when and if the task comes back up! ·addshore· talk to me! 15:33, 14 August 2013 (UTC)