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After attempting to clean up the formatting of the section added, I noticed (after reviewing the talk page) that it didn't belong. However, you beat me to it. :) Just wanted to let you know that I am in complete agreement with your edit summary, 'famous INTJs' don't belong in that article, unless they've been tested (and can be verified). Also, the source listed didn't mention any 'famous INTJs' in any way.- SudoGhost (talk) 18:39, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Nod. The biggest problem with the lists is that the people are too often not tested, but I have problems with their triviality also. It's not important to the subject of INTJ that persons x and y were INTJs, though it might be important to those persons… *shrug* --Izno (talk) 19:29, 8 April 2011 (UTC)


I based the last edited dates on the last constructive edit, which would not include talking about how inactive the project is. What is your opinion? MrKIA11 (talk) 22:46, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Already asked: MrKIA11 (talk) 06:24, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Tower Defence[edit]

Why are you deleting Master of Defense info from this page?

Here are few quick prooflinks about first standalone Tower Defence game for PC: —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:11, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

None of which verify the claim made, and a few of which are unreliable. Further, I have a sneaking suspicion that, were we to geolocate the IP, it would be an IP close to the company developing the game. But it's just a suspicion. --Izno (talk) 06:34, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

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WP:VPT Talk page question[edit]

Perhaps one for you: [1] given [2]. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:13, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council[edit]

I just wanted to say thank you for your answer to my question. I hadn't had the time to check it and it was only a few hours ago that I was able to read it. I did not think that it would be appropriate to re-activate the topic after such a long time just to say thanks, but I wanted to thank you anyway. So, once again, thanks. Jfgslo (talk) 00:10, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Parkour Page Contributions[edit]

Thank you for helping clean up the Parkour article. I may not agree with all of the changes, but I am glad we came to a good compromise. It is nice to see the lead become more concise. You should have seen it two months ago; it was a three-paragraph monster. Glelin (talk) 03:06, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Operation Rainfall for deletion[edit]

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What information do you think should be cited?[edit]

You restored the pointless reference tag for the Ultima series. [3] Do you see anything at all that actually needs to be referenced? If so, put a [citation needed] tag on it. Having a reference needed tag when there isn't a single "citation needed" request anywhere at all, makes absolutely no sense at all. Dream Focus 20:42, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

  • Please actually read what the tag banner says. "This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (August 2009)" What do you believe needs verification? Dream Focus 20:44, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
I have read exactly what it says. "If so, put a [citation needed] tag on it.": So you want the entire article covered in CNs? That's the alternative, because it is essentially the entire article which needs citations (aside from one brief subsection). "Having a reference needed tag when there isn't a single "citation needed" request anywhere at all, makes absolutely no sense at all." No, it makes sense. It means "you should cite this article", as opposed to "you should cite each sentence marked". Plainly, the article needs references, and that's what the tag is for. It is hardly "pointless", if even you don't agree with the fact that it's there. --Izno (talk) 23:26, 25 September 2011 (UTC)


Ok so the specifications are not relevant to the book maybe. But I just don't feel comfortable with the data not being on Wikipedia, could it perhaps be possible for a "Ringword (structure)" page to be created for them, and maybe for ideas on the engineering of similar structures like the halos from halo? Omni314 (talk) 20:31, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Not really. That page was actually previously deleted and the content merged to the book's page. There's probably some room on the book's page for a little more than there is currently, but the table at least should be removed. --Izno (talk) 23:48, 9 October 2011 (UTC)


Regarding this, I'm glad I wasn't the only one baffled by the Lady Gaga userbox in something to do with Evanescence! :D Acalamari 09:09, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

 :^) --Izno (talk) 09:36, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Izno,

I just saw this...what's that supposed to mean, exactly? Thank you. -- MelbourneStar☆ (talk to me) 06:06, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

There you go...mentioned in one discussion above. I swear I'm half asleep, thanks anyway. :D -- MelbourneStar☆ (talk to me) 06:10, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Depracetd template[edit]

Hiya. It seems you set Template:WikiProject Strategy games as deprecated. I presume that consensus asked for this. Could you direct me to the related discussion? Thanks, Trafford09 (talk) 23:33, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Control Systems[edit]

Get off wikipedia and pay attention to Control Systems! -Deathsythe (talk)

I hate that guy. I prefer to sign with three ~ than 4. -Deathsythe (talk) 15:22, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Template reformatting[edit]

Seeing as I can find neither hide nor hair of a discussion that you participated in that suggested that every single video game navbox template be reformatted to use the "hlist" formatting that you have installed, I have gone through your edits and reverted the instances where you have put this formatting into place. If you can show me the discussion that precipitated this random spate of edits you have performed over the last week, I will gladly go into my contributions and revert all of my reverts to save everyone time.—Ryulong (竜龙) 10:55, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Also, the hlist formatting seems to produce an unnecessary error when you do ** entries, as it registers the space after the ** as part of the entry.—Ryulong (竜龙) 10:58, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Your bot reformats to hlist[edit]

Is he slated to go through all Templates? Specifically, Template:Yoshi series, which is untouched. I'd do it manually but unsure of the exact formatting. Salvidrim! 17:47, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Re:Missing important parts[edit]

Hahaha, no problem. I also noticed that you removed the root category from a few of the templates ([4] [5]). I restored them in those cases because they're on my watchlist, but I was curious why you decided to do that. Axem Titanium (talk) 04:05, 9 January 2012 (UTC)


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Serious Sam template[edit]

Hey there I really don't understand why it was necessary to undo my edit there.. It was much better that way... — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:32, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, for one, we should avoid anchors in templates as a general rule. As to your supposition that it will be fixed later, I'm not sure all of those games have notability. If they withstand that test, then they may more than appropriately be listed in the template. --Izno (talk) 03:39, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

What was the problem now? -- (talk) 18:14, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

You added links which were redirects. Those similarly should not be on the template. --Izno (talk) 13:21, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Action real-time strategy rename talk[edit]

Izno, when you replied to Dotaveteren in the new section concerning a move back to "Dota (genre)", I was uncertain if you were voicing support for the current name (Action real-time strategy) by referencing the "move to moba" section, or for the old name (Dota (Genre)). Could you clarify your position so we can ensure consensus is clear?

Thanks! -- ferret (talk) 22:21, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

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Bobby Kotick photo[edit]

Izno, could you please look at my clarifications about Bobby's photo source. He released this photo on his official Flickr page as copyright free. Please let me know if you can put it back. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nyakushev (talkcontribs) 15:24, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

The license for the photo I am trying to add to Robert Kotick Wiki page has been changed to Attribution-ShareAlike Creative Commons. here is the photo: This is the latest photo of Bobby that I feel reflects his current image. Would it be possible to put this to his page? I do represent Mr. Kotick and only would like to make factual chnages on his page. I also added his actual birth date. Please let me know if you think that this information is beneficial to be added. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nyakushev (talkcontribs) 19:47, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Any particular reason why Bobby Kotick photo was deleted? I am not sure why robot removed that, would like to make sure that nothing was wrong with the image. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nyakushev (talkcontribs) 20:13, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


Hello. I see I'm not the only one to notice these redirect reversions. Just FYI, I've commented on it here, in case you want to add any input. Cheers. ClaretAsh 11:29, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Never mind. I just saw the discussion at WikiProject Video games. ClaretAsh 11:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)


Very useful edits--thanks. Drmies (talk) 17:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Help us develop better software![edit]

Thanks to all of you for commenting on the NOINDEX RfC :). It's always great to be able to field questions like these to the community; it's genuinely the highlight of my work! The NOINDEX idea sprung from our New Page Triage discussion; we're developing a new patrolling interface for new articles, and we want your input like never before :). So if you haven't already seen it, please go there, take a look at the screenshots and mockups and ideas, and add any comments or suggestions you might have to the talkpage. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 16:48, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

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Marbury v Madison[edit]

Thanks. I think this lead-in is much more accurate now. QuantumOfHistory (talk) 08:26, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

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Quan Chi got restored again, and again no refertences etc.[edit]

And speaking of this practice, maybe could you do something about this guy? --Niemti (talk) 22:04, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

TheElderDarkStar, vel Luigi00001 (I think)[edit]

OK, I said I've got no problem with him, but this this is what I just came upon:[6][7] (two Mortal Kombat characters, at the same time from 2 acounts, replaced the small-res images with a HUGE ones still claiming "low resolution", and linked Wikia as "official site", still keeping the "press kit" licensing for this). --Niemti (talk) 21:39, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Scratch this, Luigi00001 might be someone else after all. --Niemti (talk) 21:42, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Constitutive equation[edit]

Please see here - just in case you were going to clean the article up. Thanks, I appreciate your good faith edits, and should apologize (as ever!...) for my rudeness. Best, F = q(E+v×B) ⇄ ∑ici 19:33, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't think I have it on my watchlist, so I would never have known. :^) --Izno (talk) 19:38, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Removal of Wowwiki links[edit]

Please restore the Wowwiki links you removed or you will be reported. -- (talk) 05:46, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I simply removed them from the article where they were added, basically as WP:SPAM. If you want to chat with people, find a consensus about their appropriateness, that's up to you. Threatening me, especially as an IP, is probably not what you want to be doing. --Izno (talk) 14:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
It's not spam if you're consciously choosing Wowpedia over Wowwiki. Wowwiki existed long before Wowpedia. It's not a threat. It's what is recommended by Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism before reporting. I us an anonymous IP because I was harassed on my user account and admins did almost nothing (as some were admins). Not all admins are bad, but I've found logging in as having very little benefit. -- (talk) 15:46, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Except I'm not? I'm simply maintaining the status quo (where some pages have such links and some do not), because I know there are tensions about the two. As for length of existence, that doesn't matter. Adding "the original WoW wiki" is especially SPAMmy, though, so I doubt you're impartial on the point of the two. And, quite personally, a wiki is not the actual website but the people running it, which means the people working on Wowpedia would have more right to any links. /shrug

As for being an IP, my point was more about the threat. If you're making a good faith effort to communicate, you talk to me about why they should be restored, not threaten to report me, especially to a vandalism noticeboard when what I did was not particularly clear vandalism. --IznoRepeat (talk) 15:54, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Izno, this guy hit every article it looks like that mentions Wowpedia. I haven't reverted them yet but it seems a clear case of spam. I would think only Wowpedia should be listed, as a recognized authority since Blizzard links directly to Wowpedia on their sites and tools, not Wowwiki. -- ferret (talk) 16:43, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Whether something is officially recognized or not isn't a concern of Wikipedia—only whether it is falls within the external link guidelines. I'm not planning to revert the IP again, but I do plan to bring it up at WT:VG to see if we can get some help on the matter. --Izno (talk) 16:54, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Please bring it up with WT:VG. I'd love to hear what they say. -- (talk) 01:28, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Polymer solar cell[edit]

Sorry, I must go offline, but will get back tomorrow. After you removed Fig. 2 [8] the text makes no sense. Please reconsider. Figure identifiers like Fig. 2 are acceptable in wikipedia articles (we have GA/FAs with those. Regards. Materialscientist (talk) 14:24, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

"In figure 2, the polymer chain is the donor and the fullerene is the acceptor. After dissociation, the electron and hole may still be joined as a "geminate pair", and an electric field is then required to separate them." <- that line? I'm not sure I agree. It may be a question of an incomplete description, but it makes physical and grammatical sense to me (the lead in might not; I wrote this without looking at the lead into the sentence).
Yes. "The polymer chain is the donor and the fullerene is the acceptor" only makes sense when describing that particular figure. While the C60 fullerene is a strong acceptor, some fullerenes (derivatives) may be not, and C60 is surely not the acceptor in those cells. As to polymer chain, it can be anything. Materialscientist (talk) 00:59, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
As for figure 2 itself, the table markup etc. should be done as one full image for the desired effect, I would say.
Creating animations takes time. If a table works and saves this time - let it be. Its modular character might even be an advantage when changing molecular species, isn't it. Materialscientist (talk) 00:59, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
As for whether "fig. n" are acceptable, I'm of the opinion that figures should be able to stand alone without being referenced by the text. I would also challenge the age of those G/FAs which employ it. I find that use of the notation can make editing the article difficult. Additionally, the large majority of F/GAs do not use that figuring, and that includes many which could easily be said to be in science fields. Lastly, we're not writing for researchers much less for students, which are the few places I can think of where 'fig' is used. --Izno (talk) 16:28, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
While I myself do not use this notation on wikipedia, some regulars like Spinninspark do and go well with it. I also tend to remove/substitute it, but only when there is no loss of clarity. Using "figure to the right", "top figure", etc., is more confusing and vulnerable to formatting changes. Materialscientist (talk) 00:59, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Let me use bullets. :)
  1. So could that language be removed, or could it be reworded to make sense? I'm not personally sure myself, but it looks to me to be an example rather than something required for the topic to be understood.
  2. True. That said, I personally didn't understand the figure and I certainly don't think it conveys what should be conveyed, much less for the layreader.
  3. What I'm saying is that images should be both relevant to the topic of the article as well as self-sufficient; in other words, that I could look at the figure and understand (from the caption and the image itself) what it is that the image is talking about, without referring to the text. I think, on this point, that Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Captions is with me.
I pinged your talk page about this. --Izno (talk) 17:02, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
In general, yes, text can be rephrased and schematics made clearer, along with their captions, I just didn't feel that particular deletion made the article better, which is why I got here. Fig. 2 is as bad as most such hand-drawn schematics, but it shows that there are chains, C60 molecules which are freely rotating, and a polaron (some package that propagates along the polymer chain). Sure, chains are neither straight nor have that zigzag pattern, C60 molecules are too many, the polaron depiction is rather naive, etc. Materialscientist (talk) 23:03, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Dispute Resolution[edit]

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for this, clearly a mis-click. I hadn't even noticed that, maybe I'm slipping up on my phone again. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 14:20, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


The editor who updated the wiki to the b&w publicity photo agreed to use a color photo if one could be found. Why the revert despite the agreement? Erikeltic (Talk) 03:09, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

The provided image is pretty apparently nonfree. The removal is per WP:NFCC. You're unlikely to find an image which is non-free (I doubt the freeness of the B&W, but I haven't verified it either way), which is why I'm confused the image that was there before the edit war hasn't been kept on the article... /shrug. --Izno (talk) 03:21, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Well, if you have any feelings you'd like to share the original uploader of the b&w image has already nominated the color for deletion. ~sigh~ Your comments/feelings my be helpful. [9] I don't get the rationale at all, but I don't do a lot in Wiki Commons. Erikeltic (Talk) 03:27, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


Krystaleen has asked a question at the teahouse as to why you removed these anchor links. I do not know of any policies that state one way or the other. Perhaps you could consider leaving a note at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#anchor links on navboxes. I'm interested in hearing your response to this too. Ryan Vesey Review me! 18:23, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

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My Lord section[edit]

You marked the My Lord template for deletion because it only links to 2 games. The series actually has 4 iterations, and 3 have been translated (the third was translated as "No Heroes Allowed" The issue is that the series does not have a consistent name in the west, in fact each iteration has had a different title. I've been meaning to write up articles for the third, and fourth games but just haven't gotten around to it. The series does deserve a template box though as I feel it has enough iterations to warrant one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Damnedfan1234 (talkcontribs) 19:32, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Most navboxes without the support of written articles end up being deleted without prejudice toward recreation. I might suggest you leave that same rationale at the TfD to see if you are agreed with. --Izno (talk) 20:36, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

NBA templates[edit]

Would you be able to take a closer look at how Template:Basketballstats is meant to be used? The template does actually require a bit of work to implement; you need to specify which links you want displayed (out of multiple options), and you need to supply a specific part of each URL. There's a lot of room for a bot to screw up. Even Koavf admitted that replacing things would require some work. I don't think the older templates should have been tagged as deprecated to begin with. When the discussion was taking place, I didn't realize anyone was planning to replace all the old templates; I thought the new template was being proposed as another alternative.

I'm sorry if I seem to be a worrywart about this, but there are so many other problems with NBA articles that I get really nervous about potential massive changes. Zagalejo^^^ 23:20, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. Zagalejo^^^ 01:49, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Template:Wild Arms series[edit]

Hello. Why did you undo my revision? Alter Code F is a separate game, not just an updated version, and should be mentioned in the series. Plus there's also discussion of splitting it to a new article page. But even if it stays in the same page as Wild Arms for the time being, it should be mentioned. I cannot even begin to name vg template examples where the same has been done. Punkalyptic (talk) 06:31, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

So, in other words you're telling me that if we just split the game into a new article it can be included in the template. A mere typicality prevents the game entry from being displayed? But the content of the article would be the same, regardless of it being merged or split. How just is that, for a user/reader that simply wants to quickly get informed on the series entries?
And yes, I do have seen quite a few examples of game remakes that are shown in parenthesis (either having their own article, or being merged in the original's), and I've also seen templates with link-less titles for informational purposes, or with articles missing. Just don't make me try to find them, I'll have to go through my whole collection again.
Anyway, I wanted to state something which -from a neutral perspective/informational perspective- seemed the most obvious and sensible thing to have in a template, but if typicalities prevent such an action, then there's nothing we can do, I guess. The world is cruel. Thank you for the response. Punkalyptic (talk) 03:31, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Just to make myself clear, I don't doubt the rules. Yes, I've read most content from WP:NAV that applies to the issue. I'm just thinking that there should be exceptions, judged by people like us with experience in videogaming that can tell the difference (and that can prevent templates from being overstuffed with low value links, as you say). For example, yes, most anchor link-ed games do not deserve to be there (simple ports, enhanced editions, re-releases). But new games, re-imagined remakes etc. do deserve their inclusion, as I said, again, for informational purposes. That's my opinion anyway. Punkalyptic (talk) 04:18, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Nah, I prefer discussion over war any day. I've learnt to deal issues with patience in my eight years of website management. And to respond to your question, the line that we draw is (should be) decided on a case by case basis, taking into account multiple criteria (like overstuffing, canonicity, number of IP iterations etc). I'm not prepared to go to extremes over Wild Arms, I'll just leave it as it is, I just wanted to share an opinion that could benefit the neutral reader. Now, if and when the Alter Code F article is updated and more content is added, then perhaps we can talk about it again. Punkalyptic (talk) 04:53, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Wing Commander (franchise)‎[edit]

as you one of the editiors of Wing Commander (franchise)‎, need your opinion about [10] at Talk:Wing Commander (franchise)‎

WT:RM#Move without redirect[edit]

Boomerang ping.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:00, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Re: Template[edit]

To be honest...I don't recall because of how long it's been. I think it had something to do with the fact the move caused a lot of double redirects due to just how many redirects point at that one (there used to be a lot of sub-templates for each game series back when that one was made).--Kung Fu Man (talk) 03:52, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Template: LittleBigPlanet[edit]

I've started a discussion on the template talk page. - X201 (talk) 08:33, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Oklahoma education navigational boxes[edit]

I closed this as delete for most, but due to the fact that no one else expressed an opinion, I wasn't quite ready to delete the ones with several links. Please feel free to relist the remainder if you still think they should be deleted. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:36, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Noted. I'll be along when I have access to normal Internet again. --Izno (talk) 23:20, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of List of Command & Conquer mods for deletion[edit]

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Thermodynamics template[edit]

Hello, I just rolled back your recent changes on Template:Thermodynamics and I wanted to explain why. I am sure these were entirely well intentioned, and perhaps were an intermediate state of affairs. I have made some notes on the talk page there about the details which I thought required explanation on my part and perhaps further discussion. Thanks. dhollm (talk) 03:35, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Age of Empires II (The Age of Kings and The Conquerors)[edit]

Hello Izno, this is my first message like this on Wikipedia, so please excuse me if I do something wrong. I just wanted to ask why did you remove the external links from ["Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings"] and ["Age of Empires II: The Conquerors"]? Those didn`t do any harm and I think they didn`t break any Wikipedia rules (in my opinion, but please feel free to correct me if I`m wrong), but were there just to help users with the game. AoKHeaven has been there for years (one of the oldest, still active AoE2 places), and I added AoCZone as the currently most active international Age of Empires II (The Conquerors) community, having tons of useful AoE2 resources. I would really like to hear your opinion, and help solving any possible misunderstanding. Thank you for your time, Boogisha (talk) 00:49, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Frankly, the edits look[ed] like spam. I've gone ahead and added the dmoz template as a middle position. If the sites are so useful, they should be represented there. --Izno (talk) 17:01, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. AoKHeaven is already there, while I just submitted AoCZone. Still, this looks like a step too much for an ordinary Internet user in search of a fast and reliable answer - where the community is? While, of course, none of the sites mentioned can "claim" to be any more "official" then any other related site out there (and no one wishes to say that), it seems that if you want to find out anything (and I mean anything) related to the "Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings" and "Age of Empires II: The Conquerors" nowadays, to get help with game compatibility issues, a tip from an advanced player, or just watch a recorded game from the very beginning of "Age of Empires II" till now, you will go there.
It was not my intention to force a promotion of any of those sites through Wikipedia, as the sites themselves are very well known among the people connected with the game, but to make it easier for potentially new players to get involved as smoothly as possible, to enjoy this game that today celebrates its 13th anniversary - and with lately extremely popular live streaming and top player tournaments, being as active as it ever was.
I`ve been a part of many "Age of Empires II" community websites myself, trying to do my best to help those in need, and that is what I am still trying to do - and I strongly believe that having those links on respective Wiki pages is not spam by any means, and that will only benefit the readers. I doubt that you have much free time, but I invite you to visit the sites mentioned and decide for yourself. Those might not be the best looking places on the net, as free time is limited to all of us, but if you`re into these games - those sites are the place to be. These days, in the future - who knows :)
I`m more than willing to provide any explanation/info you might need, if it can help to get those sites back to the link section - no to help them get more visits, but to help readers get more related info. If you still think that those won`t benefit Wikipedia users interested in the topic and that they don`t belong there, I`ll understand. Sorry for a bit long post, and thanks for your time, Boogisha (talk) 18:23, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
I actually don't think they help the pedia (it is written for generalists, not even those who are looking to play but haven't), but I'm not so strongly against them that I would revert a re-addition of the links.
For the future, I would advise that this type of discussion of what is or isn't in an article be placed on the article's talk page. That helps preserve the traceability of discussions. A notice on the relevant editors' user talk pages would then ideally link to the discussion on the article talk page. These two suggestions are by no means necessary, but I like to think that they are helpful. --Izno (talk) 19:46, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for understanding, I re-added the links, but this time removed AoCZone`s lengthy extra description (specializing/listing the site contents). And I agree with your advice, that might be helpful. I`m still new to all this, not familiar with the system, but learning :) All the best, Boogisha (talk) 21:47, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
If you have questions, feel free to drop by. I've been around wikis for a while. --Izno (talk) 01:46, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Wikipedian engineers[edit]

I'm not sure I agree that it should be a container category, as I am sure there are some Wikipedians who identify as engineers who are not called out in the subcategories. I don't particularly see why we should create new categories to fit those people. Regardless of whether it is now or not, having a tag which requires it to be a container category defeats it for the use of those Wikipedians who aren't called out.... --Izno (talk) 15:07, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

The issue isn't whether someone may wish to self declare as an engineer (one may use a userbox or some other userpage notice for that). It's that the term (Engineer (disambiguation)) is not specific enough for navigation/collaborative usage. If a person was to look in a category called Wikipedia engineers, we have no way to know what kind of engineer they are looking for. Which defeats the navigational purpose of categories. - jc37 21:20, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Ticker symbols in article leads and next steps[edit]

Hi. I'm contacting you as you participated in the policy village pump discussion regarding ticker symbols in article leads.

I've posted a section here about next steps to take, specifically examining whether an RFC is needed to reach a clear consensus on this issue. If you have the time and/or inclination to weigh in, please do! --MZMcBride (talk) 18:43, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Blackarachnia page[edit]

Hello there, I just wanted you to know that I put a lot of work into fixing the Blackarachnia page. I know someone kept putting in a bad cut and paste just job that wasn't evfen accurate. It's now accurate and has many good citations, so please don't just change it to a redirect. Feel free to talk about any concerns on the talk page. Thanks. Mathewignash (talk) 22:17, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Hey faggot[edit]

Why'd you delete my contribution? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tstane7 (talkcontribs)

I worked really hard on writing that and you deleted it all. You've hurt my feelings and you owe me an apology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tstane7 (talkcontribs) 08:55, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
I disagree with your conclusion that "no apology is owed." I think you came to the decision too quickly and had you taken the appropriate time to consider all the information regarding our interaction you will undoubtedly find that the apology in question is in fact owed. To avoid incurring further expiatory debt it is recommended that you apologize post-haste. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tstane7 (talkcontribs) 01:11, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Removal of maintenance tags[edit]

Hello, Izno

I see that you have removed a maintenance tag from Template:Devil May Cry chronology without solving the problem. Well, there is very little to be said about this: Please don't do this anymore! According to our policy, every allegation of fact in Wikipedia requires citation from a reliable source. Contents without source are challenged or deleted. Burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. (In this case, you.)

If you wish to remove the tag again, please provide a source.

Best regards,
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Discussion awaits[edit]

Greetings Izno, have you the time and management to spare for the Kid Icarus discussion? ArealFatRabbit is not agreeable currently. Denial of a vital point is evident and so far no explanation of its removal is present.

P.S. The vital point added is reverted the minute I add it back. You are correct, ArealFatRabbit has a conflict of interest. Either the article is watched too closely, or the user has some kind of bot to revert the edit.

Deltasim (talk) 19:42, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Holiday wishes![edit]

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Izno, I wish you excellent holidays and a glorious 2013!

I hope you'll have great meals, memorable family reunions and joyful times with those you love. :)

  • Salvidrim!, signing off on my best year yet, thanks in no small part to y'all!
Thanks! In other news, it's my day of birthing today. Have happy holidays! --Izno (talk) 13:41, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy New Year![edit]

Hey Izno! Wishing you a very happy New Year :) CURTAINTOAD! TALK! 23:42, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


Happy New Year to you as well. I have to ask you to join the talk and kindly explain what makes you think you can delete all the info the same way 4meter4 did. There are information out there and as long as Wiki is encyclopedia a wikipedist has no right to judge what is right and what is wrong regarding published information. Thanks Carlmarche (talk) 14:31, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Halo navbox[edit]

May I enquire what part of WP:NAV is violated by including a link? Not all the novels have their own articles, so it makes sense to provide a link to the "parent" page. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 15:05, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Help:Citation Style 1[edit]

Curious on your edit to Help:Citation Style 1. What was the accessibility issue? --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 20:47, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Revert on Dissociation Constant[edit]

Hi! I left comments on the Chemistry Project Page regarding your revert of the Dissociation Constant page. I agree with the revert. Maybe you should leave something on the Dissociation Constant Talk Page so the editor knows why a revert was done? Sean Egan(talk) 21:01, 18 January 2013 (UTC)


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Request for comment on designer credits in infoboxes[edit]

Hey Izno, I was wondering if you would be interested in participating in discussion on this topic. The discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#RfC: Designer credits in Infobox video game has stalled a little bit and I'd like to reach a consensus on it. Even if you have no objections, a physical acknowledgement of that would be appreciated. Thanks, Axem Titanium (talk) 01:09, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Bit confused[edit]

Hello Izno,

I'm not enough of a linguist to understand your use of "list semantics" above, so please elucidate – especially as I'm now wondering whether I've unwittingly "broken" such semantics elsewhere...

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MOBA IWs[edit]

Curious why the removal? I'm not super familiar with IWs, so just curious. -- ferret (talk) 13:36, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

list semantics[edit]

you might be interested in this thread. Frietjes (talk) 17:39, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. --Izno (talk) 19:11, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Undid revision...[edit]

Hello again, Izno:

(Undid revision 537483540 by CsDix (talk); unbreak lists)

This may've unbroken the lists, but it looks like it also undid other amendments, including at least one intended to make more users feel included – or maybe you think it doesn't..? CsDix (talk) 03:13, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Thief (film)[edit]

I did what (I think) you were asking for with your CSD tag and moved Thief (1981 film) back to Thief (film), but I'm unclear as to the reason for it ... since there are multiple films named Thief, wouldn't it be better to have this one named Thief (1981 film) (like you had it)? --B (talk) 04:20, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

International Cricket Seasons infobox[edit]

I just made a quick infobox which incorporates all of the seasons in which international cricket has been played. You can see it here. I believe this is a better presentation compared to the current infobox which has been proposed for deletion. Rubaisport (talk) 23:09, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

What you are saying makes sense and off-course once the new articles are added/created they can be added to the navbox. Either way your presentation is much more intuitive than the current format.Rubaisport (talk) 23:34, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Templates to "clean"[edit]

Don't forget these:

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Template:About continent and region topic templates

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CsDix (talk) 04:57, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

That's a little pointy, but okay. I'll have a look into doing some of them this weekend. --Izno (talk) 05:01, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
If you are going to go around enforcing one-size-fits-all template formatting, at least make sure you don't break the templates. Thank you. CsDix (talk) 05:03, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
That was quite deliberate, thank you. You should not be adding a new parameter for any reason whatsoever. It makes it more difficult to maintain using bots, is inconsistent with previous usage, and adds no benefit. Furthermore, the use of an explicit parameter makes the template future proof to changes. --Izno (talk) 05:05, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
  • First, it's not a new parameter. Secondly, it adds the benefit of not having to use "expanded=" all the time. Furthermore, don't moan at progress; fix your bots and future-proofing instead. Finally, if you are going to insist on continuing in this inflexible vein, please update the parameters in all instances of each template before moving on to the next one. CsDix (talk) 05:09, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Wikify/tutorial[edit]

Ambox warning pn.svgTemplate:Wikify/tutorial has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. GoingBatty (talk) 17:33, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Template:Ghost in the Shell[edit]

Both Lucia Black and myself have reverted your attempts to edit the template that result in redundancies. Please take that as a hint.—Ryulong (琉竜) 21:42, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Also your blind revert removed my link to the Arise page I created.—Ryulong (琉竜) 21:42, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

If someone reverts a revert you made of someone else, maybe you should take that as a hint. I also see absolutely nothing on WP:ACCESS that forbids the use of one level of <small>. It even says it is preferable to absolute font sizes and also this is a template we are talking about and not an article's prose.—Ryulong (琉竜) 16:50, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Will you stop "fixing" the template already?—Ryulong (琉竜) 00:52, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Back off. I don't even know how you can oppose that change. I just don't get it. If you want to have the link be in the header, fine, and I accept that no one was willing to back me up on the template talk page. But that doesn't excuse the shitty html semantics implied by the list as is. --Izno (talk) 02:16, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
It's formatted that way so it matches the rest of the template and every other template out there. Lists of episodes are generally placed in parentheses, particularly if they are listed after the show that they're a part of.—Ryulong (琉竜) 02:28, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


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Dota 2 layout 'fix'[edit]

Just to clarify my last edit on Dota 2, I completely accidentally screwed up a paragraph mid way down the article in the process, but my main intention was to move the references list under the last picture as it looked odd being sat by the side of it. Samwalton9 (talk) 15:09, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

If you were going to do it correctly, you would use {{clear}}. I personally wouldn't support the use there, because not all readers need it. For those who do, you're probably reading with enough columns not to need it. For those who don't, don't.
The problem I had with the edit is that something in whatever Javascript you're using had a bad side affect: see the wikt link in the article. --Izno (talk) 15:14, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, hadn't seen {{clear}} before. On the topic of using it or not, I've just tried reading the article on a 1440x900 monitor and that also doesn't display properly, would the use of {{clear}} honestly have any negative drawbacks if it were used?
And yes I didn't notice the wikt link screw up until your revert, not sure why that happened. Samwalton9 (talk) 15:18, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm not terribly dead set against it, but I'm certainly not for it. Ideally, there would be more content in the section so that the image wouldn't need 'help'. --Izno (talk) 15:41, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Just curious if you could help me with the Javascript issue you pointed out, it just happened again, changing some seemingly random words in the article I was editing. Any idea what could be causing it to happen? I'm rather confused... Samwalton9 (talk) 21:14, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Motion to close RFC/U[edit]

I really have no idea where he might be able to comment, being blocked, but it seemed to me that he was entitled to notice just like every other editor who commented on that RFC/U. He'll have to figure out for himself what the process would be to make a comment, assuming he wants to. Fladrif (talk) 14:46, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

I've followed your suggestion, and also notified the blocking admin as well. Fladrif (talk) 15:00, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 March 16#Template:Rozz Williams[edit]

Hi, perhaps you'd be interested in revisiting this discussion? Articles have been created and then expanded on a few other albums; three are certainly worthy of articles, others may well be. J Milburn (talk) 16:51, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Template:Mass Effect[edit]

The Template:Mass Effect Media row, as is now, doesn't distinguish between (Books, Comics, Films) or (Print, Films). I'd like to see a characterization similar to how the Games row distinguishes Trilogy games from Related games. Any suggestions? – Conrad T. Pino (talk) 17:14, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't really see it as important to distinguish. Any way, I would just prefer a) to avoid duplicate links and b) nonlinks in the main part of the template. --IznoRepeat (talk) 18:37, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

The Proposal[edit]

Hi Izno! I'd like to know you're view on Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Apps... I hope I've answered your questions and can you help get this project into the mainstream namespace of Wikipedia or should I just let it be a task force? Waiting for your answer... The Wikimon (talk) 15:18, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

About This Div div class="noprint"[edit]

About This Div div class="noprint Try this; go to : "Print/export" Then Go To Download as PDF" And see! be free to see the problem. When the table is too wide.. you can't print in PDF... and if you are going to do a book with 100 articles inside you can't render the book. Please try!! and any way.. what is the problem with that div?? you can still view the page without problems, and the pdf work good.. but without the table. The problem is the table not the div.

Try add in a book this articles.. then save in you personal computer and watch: "Print/export" -> "Create a book" add.. and generate as pdf. " WARNING: Article could not be rendered - ouputting plain text. Potential causes of the problem are: (a) a bug in the pdf-writer software (b) problematic Mediawiki markup (c) table is too wide

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Template:Star Trek[edit]

  • rv; thanks for explaining your edit. would you like to talk page it up?

-ok, here it is - it's more logical to delete sub-templates and make one that can be used everywhere (star trek pages) than make a mess with many sub-templates, you don't think so? With Template:Star Trek you can get everywhere from every page, as about size, well, it's a big franchise, so i think it's the only logical choice. FreeRogue  ·  ·  · Talk ·  ·  · 03:37, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

-p.s. i will let you to revert your changes, i don't want to start edit war FreeRogue  ·  ·  · Talk ·  ·  · 03:38, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Alcohol laws of New Jersey[edit]

Izno, let's discuss your changes at Talk: alcohol laws of New Jersey#Liquor License Tables. DavidinNJ (talk) 03:55, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

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A request[edit]

Take my user page off your watchlist.—Ryulong (琉竜) 15:08, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

I reserve the right to watch pages of my choosing. --Izno (talk) 15:20, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
In other news, please do not use rollback to revert edits which are not clear and obvious vandalism. Thanks. I'm fairly certain you've been warned about that before. --Izno (talk) 15:23, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm free to do whatever the hell I want on my talk page.—Ryulong (琉竜) 18:32, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Learn something new every day. Interesting that it's not the first time it's been brought up. Shrug. --Izno (talk) 19:26, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Apology and adieu[edit]

I apologize for the mistake I had made over on the Ad hominem page. I think that edit was made by Fladrif, who has been blocked for personal attacks and disruption. By the way, I am going to be on a Wikibreak to prepare for the final exams, which are this week and will be on Wikibreak until May 5-7. Also, some of the stress has got to me as well. I will only be here to work on a couple of articles as well as trying to help deal with vandalism. Until then, farewell. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:24, 1 May 2013 (UTC)