User talk:Midgley

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The doctor is: mostly retired.


Welcome to the Wikipedia[edit]

First named edit open source processes at the Medical algorithm article

In common with other users, I like to keep it short. See archives etc.

the admins noticeboard




Tidied to its own page. l1.


I'm at least keeping an eye on this. WikiProject Health controversies

My guess is that the unpleasantness around it arises from the chips on various alternate shoulders, and that the concealed agenda may prove more troublesome than the disclosed one.


Vaccination stuff[edit]

Re:sociology and vaccinations[edit]

Regarding this, I think sb at my dept is actually doing a related dissertation, but she probably haven't edited Wiki before :( --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 01:07, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll ask her, but what exactly do you need?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 02:34, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm interested in the phenomenom, rather than the people, particualrly in the way that copied information spreads, despite later corrections, across websites. Also in the sociological view of the whole thing. Midgley 02:37, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Vaccination success[edit]

I don't know whether you spotted the recent WHO press release, I've put the topic up at wikinews: Global measles deaths plunge by 48% over past six years. Great achievement, but clearly more to do, easpecially in Asia where vaccination take-up currently less good. David Ruben Talk 03:32, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

It will be interesting (but not very) to see what the anti-vaccinationists say about that. Midgley 10:37, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
If you can only find a single living anti-vaccinationist, that is. --Leifern 13:28, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
I've found 3 here. It isn't complicated, just English.

Medical controversy attractors[edit]

Your comment: Are there any health controversy pages which don't have Ombudsman and Leifern in their edit histories, because if there are no great number, a solution to the problem presents itself. Midgley 01:38, 13 March 2006 (UTC) humored me. Mathematicians have a concept of attractors, which seems apropos. Do you have experience in clinical trials? A sense of efficient case finding is common in people who have such experience. Steve Kd4ttc 02:07, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Just a bit - we are in an asthma one and ramping up for a hypertension one that I can't yet talk about. I first read James Gleick's book "Chaos" C17 years ago having bought it in Dulles airport and while travelling South backward at 500 mph, and some of the attractors are indeed strange. Leifern has been away for a while, and returned in foul form - really obnoxious to the extent that something should be done. Coincidentally whaleto popped back up at the same time, I guessed he had been having a lie down. Midgley 02:36, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

current business[edit]

  1. writing an encyclopaedia
  1. writing a collaborative medical textbook

Replies here or on user pages[edit]

User:Whaleto (or site whaleto) rfc[edit]

repeated links in violation of WP policies Midgley 21:50, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I will take a look at it InvictaHOG 23:58, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
We appear to have reached a resolution of the problem. Midgley 20:28, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

“Medicine” on MCOTW[edit]

After a bit of inactivity, Medicine has been selected as the new medicine collaboration of the week. I am taking the unusual step of informing all participants, not just those who voted for it, since I feel that it is important that this highest-level topic for our collaboration be extremely well-written. In addition, it is a core topic for Wikipedia 1.0 and serves as the introduction to our other articles. Yet general articles are the ones that are most difficult for individuals to write, which is why I have invited all participants. I hope it isn't an intrusion; I don't make plan to make a habit of sending out these messages. — Knowledge Seeker 02:16, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

The humour: dry[edit]


Thank you for the common sense edits. English, you want English? Was ist los, sprichst du kein Deutsch? Ok it is late.  ;-) Point taken. That was a stupid sentence. Only I do have a question about one change you made. Your phrase 'tending to wall off' isn't exactly what I was trying to say. Don't you think the body's immune system actually does try to wall off the foreign object? I agree that 'in an attempt to' is rather awkward. Can you help me think of a better way to describe this, without a detailed explanation of the immune system? I don't think 'tending' provides quite the correct meaning, do you? Thank you!! molly bloom 05:17, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

I just caught your 'it evolved that way'. ROFL Of course it did. I daresay that you might get an argument from some fundamentalist religous people on that one. There are folks who insist the earth is 6,000 years old, too. I don't think I would want to be the one editing that Wiki article. molly bloom 05:24, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

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Arbitration on Biological psychiatry[edit]

Midgley, first of all, I'm sorry about any work you did on the Biological psychiatry article that was discarded with the re-writes. If you'd like to put any of that back in, feel free. Thanks for all your work on it. However we have a bigger problem with Cesar Tort and Ombudsman constantly pushing the POV tag on that article.

I asked Cesar Tort and Ombudsman for mediation or arbitration. They didn't respond so regretfully we must proceed. Without mediation, we go straight to arbitration. If you're willing to support this, please read the below. I'll file the request later today, unless you suggest otherwise. Joema 19:37, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

War stuff at Anti-vaccinationist[edit]

Thanks for the info, I must have misconstrued the original version when I was copyediting... I haven't added anything new, just changed a few words so it doesn't imply why the war might have caused any epidemic. Obviously add more at will. Sparkleyone 06:31, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


(Re: your comments in this edit). The "100k" case number seems high to me as well. The CDC's MMWR report (PMID 16617290) cites ~56,000 in '04-05, which leaves me at a loss to find the other 40,000+. Heathhunnicutt cites this cite for the 100,000 figure - which just boldly states it without citing. -- MarcoTolo 02:18, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

May I suggest holding such discussions on the page's discussion page? There's no need for secrecy when it comes to finding references, is there? Heathhunnicutt 13:09, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, I have compiled the whole thread on User_talk:Heathhunnicutt, and the bit about the epidemic on the article Talk:Mumps. Heathhunnicutt 17:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea what this is about but it needed some heading[edit]

what is this extra-pyramidal effect?

can't find an article on it

u claimed what i thought to be tardive dyskinesia to be this e-p eff Chris

—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

THe pyramidal tracts carry motor signals into the spinal cord and thence to the muscles. (Roughly). They are fairly plain wiring. There are various systems that work on _position_ rather than power, and allow you to eg specify the position your hand should be in, that being different to where it currently is, movement occurs until it is there. (Very roughly). SO things affecting movement that are not due to a problem with the pyramidal tracts are extra-pyramidal effects and are common with anti=psychotic drugs of the Chlorpromazine --> Olanzapine sort of axes. (Very very roughly). Parkinson's disease, whcih is related to Dopaminergic nerves, produces effects that are not completely unlike some of these. Anti=psychotic drugs as above have efects on dompaminergic neurones. I may have to write an artile on this now, if there really isn't one, here or more likely on http://ganfyd./org but I'd need to do some reading _first_. Tardive duskinesia is a late (late = tardy - tardive) and unexpected effect, extra-pyramidal effects are prompt and expected and reversible. Midgley 21:29, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Thanks[edit]

That's okay. Anti-vaccinationists seems like a really interesting topic and I'd really like to get the article to a better standard, but its so difficult to find comprehensive, unbiased information. Anyway, I suppose its me who should be thanking you - you obviously put lots of time and effort into the article (and many others), it's very much appreciated :-). Bodil 18:29, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


I have been searching for information on this (Steth actually did remove it), and it is quoted as being from a book by DD Palmer, but I don't have the book.... Please email me and I'll send you what I have. It's all very interesting. The spiritualist, occultist, Freemason, roots of chiropractic. -- Fyslee 20:00, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Smallpox Hill[edit]

Hi - good to know someone's out there! It's at grid reference ST775984. I'd be delighted to hear more about it - I only heard the name in the mid-sixties, when I spent some time in that area. - Ballista 09:58, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi - just moved this from your user page where, with great shame, I have to admit I put it in error, y'day! Apologies - Ballista 04:29, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Was the reply from you? - yes, I'd been told as a teenager, by a local, that it was a smallpox hospital but had never verified that fact. For all I knew, it was just a great local legend, but why shouldn't it be true? - Ballista 16:02, 24 April 2006 (UTC) I also replied to User:Downhamhill

Science is science and many other things are perfectly reasonable other things. Pseudoscience I take to be wrapping non-science in the trappings of science in order to confuse. Orgonite, [[[Royal Rife]] and - given the assertion of subluxations - chiropractic's fundemanetal theoretical basis are pseudoscience. Science is powerful and pseudoscience is an attempt to steal that power for fraudulent purposes. Midgley 08:50, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I've run over this hill many times in the last fifteen years (it's on a round, together with Cam Peak, Cam Long Down and Uleybury, which we cheekily call the '4 Peaks') - the long top bears many hummock marks but no signs of building footings; as I'm sure others have mentionned, plans to excavate the site were firmly squashed, for a variety of reasons, some ten or so years back. Bob aka Linuxlad 16:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Anecdotal evidence[edit]

Thanks for the kind words about the anecdotal evidence rewrite! Jokestress 01:32, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

!Grin! Midgley 07:11, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Just another RFA thank you note[edit]

1581 Bunting clover leaf map.jpg Dear Midgley, I appreciate your vote and your kind words in my RFA. It has passed with an unexpected 114/2/2 and I feel honored by this show of confidence in me. Cheers! ←Humus sapiens ну? 04:16, 26 April 2006 (UTC) RfC[edit]

?where does this go from here?Gleng 11:54, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Carefully through WP procedure I think. The first thing is that John having responded rather shortly and essentially denying the legitimacy of the RFC, should be encouraged/given another opportunity to either respond or reject it. If he would accept a mentor or if anyne felt like offering him advice (Arcadian did several times I know) then this would be a reasonable part of demonstrating he has had every cnhance to take on board the criticism of Whale and of his linking to it. If he indicates that he does not accept the WP procedure - the RFC and so on - then it is a request to ArbCom to consider it next.
Meanwhile, my feeling is that an admin looking at a link by John to , and arguably at a link by anyone who can be shown to have been made aware of th RFC, to , would not be acting unreasonably in blocking that user. But of course that is just my view.
As a secondary activity, I note there is an RFC on WP:RS one idea in which is to list certain sources that are reputable, and by implication at least, certain sources that are not reputable. It may be reasonable to write an essay which would have the same standing as eg WP:CB or WP:SNOW saying in essence WP does not link to or its clones as a source becuase it has been determined by RFC that it is not reputable as a source. Midgley 12:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

reaching outDrugs for lipids[edit]

archive and discussion by all means

Clarify edit summary[edit]


Orwell's essay Politics and the English language] is quite good

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Cesar Tort and Ombudsman vs others[edit]


An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Cesar Tort and Ombudsman vs others. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Cesar Tort and Ombudsman vs others/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Cesar Tort and Ombudsman vs others/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Johnleemk | Talk 09:33, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Midgley 09:38, 1 May 2006 (UTC)


Let me think about it - I think there are some significant differences between RFCs and RFArs that should be addressed, but I haven't given any thought at all to how to approach them before today. Phil Sandifer 00:13, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Need comments on Biopsych arbitration case[edit]

Midgley, please read this section closely and make any comments you think appropriate under the "comment by parties" headings: RFA Cesar Tort, Ombudsman proposed findings of fact. Joema 17:16, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Jeryl Lynn[edit]

I really appreciate the reworking you gave to the page on Jeryl Lynn and the girl it was named after. Thanks! Heathhunnicutt 19:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Mumps Vaccine[edit]

Mumps vaccine is a reasonable topic combining history with a view of a subject of wider than N. American, or even N. American + UK scope. From a historical point of view, the story of Jeryl Lynn Hilleman and her father is an interesting one that actually points to serendipity and the personal touch still being a significant part of science. Buried somewhere in there is a Cold War commentary to be written on how the USA neither bought a Russian 1950 vaccine, nor really used their existing, killed, one, instead waiting until Merck produced one. Seventeen years later. A general point on managing vaccine articles is under Talk:DPT vaccine.

Vaccine articles need the sticker often found on food on them though.


Re:vandal and fraud[edit]

I don't quite see the problem. Could you point me to the specific sentence that is causing you trouble? You should be aware that WP:ANI is not for settling content disputes. enochlau (talk) 03:13, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmm I see, I'd suggest taking this to WP:AFD. enochlau (talk) 04:06, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Mediation Request[edit]

Hi, you made a mediation request here. Could you please fill in all the required information as soon as possible or it may well be removed. We are happy to help mediate discussions but we have to know the full details before doing so. I understand you may be angry or annoyed at the conduct of other users but the best way to resolve such disputes is by providing full and frank information to all parties. Thank you for youy time -- Tmorton166 (Errant Emote)  talk 18:57, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, your mediation request will be considered and should be taken up in the next few days. If there is no mediator response within 5 days then please feel free to get in touch with me or any of the other mediators on the list. Thanks -- Tmorton166 (Errant Emote)  talk 19:30, 24 May 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for pre-empting me in moving thimerosal to thiomersal. =) -Techelf 01:13, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


I've added some comments re: your recent edits to Talk:Epilepsy. Regards, Colin°Talk 20:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

G. Patrick Maxwell[edit]

The message is being sent to all those involved in the G. Patrick Maxwell editing dispute. Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Please also note that this does not mean you have three reverts to use every 24 hours, and such deliberate attempts to work around the 3RR will also lead to action being taken. As a note, should I take action against anyone involved for reverting after this warning was given, all parties who have broken the rule will face equal punishment. Thanks! Ian13/talk 18:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I wonder[edit]

Have we fallen for a ruse? This is terrible. InvictaHOG 01:51, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

It's just hard to believe the constellation of dysfunction InvictaHOG 02:15, 7 June 2006 (UTC)


You wrote: "It is late here and I can't see what the point you are worried about amounts to, but there is a copyvio tag you should put on a page from which you have removed material on the grounds of copyvio. That makes a link to the place where people who understnad this watch to see what happens. I would think it very surprising if a link was a violation of copyright - how would the Web work?"

Thanks for the info. I checked WP:TM, and the only template I could find was *enormous*. It seems there should be a smaller tag like (citation needed), so that others would check, and I hesitated to add that enormous tag when I'm not not sure of the violation, and no one has yet responded. At any rate, to answer your other question (how would the web work if a link was a violation of copyright), a link that it is a PDF copy of someone else's article easily violates copyright. It's the same as taking a picture of someone else's work, and putting it up without rights. You get the Times article, convert it to PDF format, upload it elsewhere -- that's a violation of their copyright. The NY Times (or any other source) doesn't allow you to capture a PDF picture of their article, and put it up on another website, without their permission -- at least, that what appears to have happened there. Hope this makes the problem more understandable? Sandy 03:38, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I deleted it as a copyright violation (which I believe have a somewhat urgent nature?), as I don't have access to the original article. I was looking for something to justify that the man was notable, which he doesn't seem to be, but those who wrote the article and included the references should find and provide legitimate references. I only noticed the copyright violation when I was trying to follow up on the references per the AfD. Hopefully by deleting the copyright violation and calling attention to it, the person who added the reference will be able to track down the original source? Sandy 03:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC)



Please stop responding to Jgwlaw[edit]

Hi there. I come here to ask you to please stop responding to comments by Molly (Jgwlaw) in the talk page of the AfD debate in the interest of putting the conflict behind us. I have asked her to do the same. Thanks. Cowman109Talk 22:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Mutter. OK. Mumble. Thanks.Midgley 22:33, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Have a cookie. Choco chip cookie.jpg Cowman109Talk 22:36, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Re "Do you want half"[edit]

As long as it is sugar-free. I'm on a diet. Except yesterday was my birthday and "DH" (dear husband) took me out for an all too large steak dinner.  ;-) MollyBloom 22:44, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Vaccines (copied from mediation page)[edit]

can believe it - I'd been there before, and some of the same people were there... did you look at the anti-vaccinationist RfA. I saw it coming... in April. Midgley 22:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

no, I haven't. I hope to never see another ridiculous free-for-all like this again. It is a waste of energy, and it is uncivil. I am going to have to look up all these TLA s (three letter acronyms) since I am Wikifuddled (to plagiarize someone else's term). I don't even know all the debate or whatever over vaccines. I am only glad that there were polio vaccines, for example, so we did not have another generation of crippled people. I wish there were a vaccine for some other disease like MS, or lupus.  ;-( My own personal belief is that some of the pharma has gone too far, like advertising on US television for meds for made up disease like "Social Anxiety Disorder" (what the heck is that?) to sell a new drug, but that is a whole nother topic and not germane here.MollyBloom 23:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

As to Ombudsman, my only suggeston is that kindness (or civility) goes a long way to mend fences. I don't know a whole lot about your disputes with him, and I don't want to get involved.MollyBloom

Mmmh. That's a bit radical. (I think US: Liberal is only a little to the right of our conservatives, isn't it?) There is something in that. Are you sure you are not going to get into the mediation thing - although maybe not there to start with? I saw US television a couple of times*... I think that the nuts and bolts of the immune system are slowly being teased into piles, and we are likely to come up with some sort of fixes. I rather like telling my (Type 1) Diabetics that if they stick with it, there is likely to be a cure for them ... I suppose we have to either get very radical with dissemination and sharing of knowledge, or put up with some of the Pharma foibles. I think social anx. dis is what we used to call shy, and needed drawing out and not teasing - over here telling people they work that way and it is all right and tablets will not improve their life still works, often, so the rearguard is still in place. (*CNN has its moments though)Midgley 23:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
1. US:Liberal. Yes, I think you're are absolutely correct. Conservative in the UK v. conservative in the US are altogether different. The US conservatives have been overrun by right wing religious fanatics and Lochnerites (um.  ;-) You would have to look up Lochner in Wiki). My brand of 'liberal' once was considered fairly conservative in the US.
2. Soc. Anxiety disorder. Exactly. I doubt that either you or I are in danger of having this "illness".
3. Pharma. I wish that we had more sanity about tablets over here. I don't know what the answer is to the Pharma foibles. It is an increasing problem, though. Another ad I truly detest is the one for viagra and 'EDD' or erectile dysfunction disorder. Wasn't that one time just called impotence? oi vey maria
4. Autoimmune disease. I wish there were more knowledge in this whole area. IT does make sense that the 'cause' is a combination of genetic susceptibility and environmental exposure...but then, that doesn't shed much light. I hope there is a cure for Ty 1 diabetes, but also MS, lupus and other autoimmune disorders.

I truly appreciate the truce. Now I can go do some editing on the law project. The editor on criminal battery didn't define it correctly, or distinguish it from tortious battery.MollyBloom 00:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

To the left of me? Better not tell many US doctors that. um.  ;-)


You might take a look at the entry,. There is something wrong with it....looks like a partial URL or something on the page. MollyBloom 02:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


Hi there, I have apparently been successful at generating a potential compromise regarding biopsychology article. (at the RFC)Perhaps you will go look at it, thanks. Prometheuspan 03:21, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

en-WP is an encyclopaedia about things that happen in English speaking countries?[edit]

When I added that comment tag, the sentence was adjacent to another sentence in the preceding paragraph. The duplicated use of "monovalent mumps vaccine" seems unfortunate in that the lay reader will think all monovalent mumps vaccines are literally the same thing. Therefore, the sentence about Leningrad-3 as a monovalent mumps vaccine was actually obfuscating to the audience. Naturally, the vast majority of the en-wiki audience is from the Anglosphere, and optimizing for relevance to the audience is good.
I agree that the account should remain. You can see that I moved the sentence to its own paragraph in order to disambiguate the two monovalent mumps vaccines in question there. But you throw the noun-phrase "monovalent mumps vaccine" around so much it must be confusing to the audience. In my opinion.
As for your examples including French couture, I am completely struggling to understand why that would be a relevant example in your mind. Even in that article, the material is likely organized in a way that is relevant and useful to the reader.

Heathhunnicutt 05:48, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

It almost seems like you are going around looking for little barbs to be wounded by, and you don't understand American sarcasm, i.e., take things too seriously. To take that comment tag and blow it into the extremes you came up with, I again find remarkable. Heathhunnicutt 05:50, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I thought Americans didn't do sarcasm and were bemused by us Englishmen:¬). The thing about monovalent ("single" perhaps, but "single" in the UK has acquired emotional baggage, and monovalent is a useful term) vaccine is that there was the moderate-sized row in the UK, and the two other countries, Russia and the USA, give two contrasting examples of what is done with the vaccine - the USA introduced a vaccine, Jerryl Lynn sold as Mumpsvax, and then mixed it into MMR leaving the already approved vaccine avaialble, whereas Russia never bothered to mix Mumps with anything else, thus leaving Mumps vaccine available. The UK didn't adopt a mumps vaccine until it adopted the mixed one, and thus (Merck Sanofi et al never spent the money to get the individual component vaccine licenced separately and the UK) never made it available.
So when the question in the reader's mind is "why didn't the UK adopt a single Mumps vaccine?", as it has been from time to time because of that row, WP now answers it. The England & Wales dept. of Health never did answer it, as far as I know, so WP is a more useful resource on that single point than the government information service. So that is why I dug into that. It isn't perfect, of course, and we can shape it better. (I think the section above would be easier to read if I'd allowed myself the use of "monovalent". Midgley 18:23, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Tradenames... Most UK doctors prefer to use the drug name (eg "Live Mumps vaccine - Jerryl Lynn strain" or "Lercanidipine" to the trade names (Mumpsvax and Zanidip). Is there a convention on WP yet? Midgley 18:23, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


I still dont' think the article is encyclopedic. But we can agree to disagree.MollyBloom 01:23, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Sense of humor[edit]

I have to know, DId you put in the image of the hooka smoking caterpillar? (sp?)

Yes, Tenniel from Wikicommons. There is often something suitable there. Someone mentioned "sheer brass neck" in the anti-vaccinationist talk page, so ...
Padaung woman

(arguably the hot air balloon was going too far) AKM I was thinking about our dispute....and after we cooled off, I was thinking of people I have known that I have fondly called Curmudgeons. And I thought, oh know, Midgely is a Curmidgeon. Don't take this wrong, because it was meant to be humorous, not an insult, and I would never call you that on any public page as disparagement.

Fully paid up member of the awkward squad. AKM

Thank for the half cookie on my user page. I see you had already added yours, so I only added a comment.MollyBloom 01:23, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Vanity pieces[edit]

Thanks for your comment. I noted stubs on a law clerk (forget judges) which is patently absurd. While it is quite an acccomplishment to be the law clerk of a US SUpreme Court Justice, a career of law clerk positions is hardly notable in itself. That astounded me. See [[1]] I do have a problem with vanity pieces. I have seen all too many in Wikipedia. Frankly, Maxwell's bio looks like an ad for any dozen plastic surgeons, as well as a POV. But that pales in comparison to the stub for this law clerk. Exactly why is a law clerk notable?

Interesting. I went via history to the originator, and I think the answer is there is an effort to cover all of a certain group[2] - it took me longer than it would you to de-acronymise SCOTUS but I got there. See User_talk:Pmaccabe. There is a topic in there which comes up in various places, of lumping versus splitting. I tend to lump, resulting in an article such as Mumps vaccine and a paragraph on Jerryl Lynn (which is not in that article, at present, but could be) whereas Heathhunnicutt tends to split, resulting in Mumpsvax, Jeryl Lynn and at least potentially Jeryl Lynn (strain) and Jeryl Lynn Hilleman. Neither is wrong, and a lumped article tends to make a splitter say aargh and vice versa. So I suppose the answer is "as a member of a group of some notability and/or potential notability". If each of those individuals had a paragraph on the main list page then it would get big, and also a page called "list of" seems by convention to stay close to being a list (and to be vulnerable to deletion, though that one is definitely not). So notability by concatenation, I suppose... My view is that the solution to that is to use clear sub-pages for such things, but there may be technical reasons in MW development that make that unwise. 16:57, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I see. Well, that does make more sense, although a separate bio is not neccessary for all. Obviously, many SC law clerks have gone on to be highly notable in their own right. It's a bit premature for the law clerk of a brand new SC justice. Still, thanks for the info. I need to spend some more effort and time on the WIkiLaw project. I am still new to Wikipedia, and that.Thank you Pmaccabe. MollyBloom 18:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Nuclear fuel graphs[edit]

You made a comment in April about the graphs on the nculear fuel page. Are you talking about the graphs of temperture as a function of distance from the center of the pellet ? I could not understand your comment. Please could you explain what your worrys are. (Answer on my talk page please).Cadmium 21:21, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Cesar Tort and Ombudsman vs others[edit]

This arbitration case is closed and the final decision has been published at the link above.

Delivered for the arbitration committee as a clerk (I don't take part in making these decisions). --Tony Sidaway


Hi Midgley: I introduced the article Eschatology (cult). Perhaps you may find it interesting since I mention the religious beliefs of Christian Scientists and other cultists who die prematurely because they are reluctant to go to the doctor when needed? —Cesar Tort 04:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Half Cookie[edit]

Thanks again for the half cookie. I may have removed it inadvertantly. Cheersjgwlaw 03:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

You are basking in the sunshine? Isn't it a little warm there? I'm used to it here, because our seasons are 'hot' and 'hotter'.jawesq 16:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Alan Yu[edit]

Thanks for drawing attention to Alan Yu - there's not a lot there, and maybe he's not worth having on Wikipedia. I'm going to do some research in the next few days and see what I can dredge up on him. - JustinHall 05:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


I just now saw the link you left me. Lovely photos. Are you in them?jgwlaw 06:32, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Medical wikis[edit]

You obviously have a talent for promoting medical wiki's -so how about adding:
No Blood [3]
Fluewiki [4]
to the article: Open-source#Health.--Aspro 17:57, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Interesting idea. Is open source the same as open information/digital commons though? Midgley 20:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Antoine Béchamp and Günther Enderlein[edit]

Hello Midgley, saw You there. if you like, i may translate the german article * into simple (perhaps ugly) English. I wrote that article a couple of days ago. However: i need a native englisch speaking expert to check my spelling. I may shorten that article, the german version is quite long. btw: i am a 50 years old ex-doctor. CU, michael Redecke 11:05, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

i forgot: you may also contact me, if you need info about german-related health or quack articles or issues (bioresonance, dark-field microscopy in alternative medicine, alternative diagnostics, anti-cancer diet...) on my user-page you will find my email-address, to contact me if i do not answer on my discussion-page. michael Redecke 11:09, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Günther Enderlein, made about half the way. finished. there is however a contradiction to the english speaking text i linked, it concerns the role of pH. This issue should be checked later. michael Redecke 23:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Bioresonance therapy[edit]

do you have time to check my edits there ? i tried to make that article more npov. michael Redecke 13:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Excellent edit on Category:Alternative Medicine[edit]

Much better wording regarding research into alt-med[5] -- thank you! cheers, Jim Butler(talk) 00:08, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Ehrenfried Pfeiffer[edit]

Hello Midgley ! Can you take a look at that article ? these image forming methods of anthroposophy are not suited for any cancer detection, they play a very limited role as tests for bio-food in some contries. regards, Michael Redecke 17:03, 29 August 2006 (UTC)



the main page of WikiProject Medicine has just been redesigned, comments are welcome! Please consider listing yourself as a participant.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

edit protect help[edit]

I don't know how to edit protect and theres an article that is repeatedly vandalized (podracing). Could you please help? Thank you. Ilikefood 00:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

never mind, but thanks anyway. someone already got it. Ilikefood 00:19, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Bush and Levinson[edit]

I appreciate your comments, Midgley. Levinson was not merely a recent Ph.D. graduate; when Levinson returned from his fellowship at Cambridge, he had already proven himself to be one of the most outstanding mathematicians of his generation (certainly to both Hardy and Wiener), so there was no excuse for Bush not to hire him. -- Rglovejoy 16:30, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding your questions...
According to, in 1932, Bush was made a Vice President and the Dean of Engineering at MIT.
In, it is stated that:
"Three administrative levels were implied in the plan: president, vice president, deans and administrative officers. However, all administrative officers reported directly to the president. Vice President Vannevar Bush served largely as an advisor to the president and as chief administrative officer in his absence. Bush had an office in the presidential suite where he could confer daily with Compton. They shared files and secretarial staff."
So although he did not have the title of provost, he did have many of its powers. What would have happened was that Bush tried to block Levinson's appointment, and Hardy and Wiener went over Bush's head to get Levinson hired.
I'm no longer an MIT student, having graduated in 1991, and unfortunately I live a couple of thousand miles away from the Institute. So all I have to go on is what I am able to find on the web. -- Rglovejoy 17:00, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
So corrections to the text indicated, at the very least, and I continue to think that one assertion, by someone who was not there, based on hearsay, and written in half a century later, is not a good basis for the assertion made.


Would you like to have a quick look at bowel infarction please, so that it doesn't actually mislead. Bob aka Linuxlad 16:38, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Ta! (I must add in the Maurice Gibb reference sometime) I also made a passing comment on Smallpox Hill, which I sometimes run over with the Dursley club. Bob aka Linuxlad

Thiomersal and dental amalgam controversy[edit]

  • Thank you for your message on my talk page. This discussion should preferably be on the talk page of the article where issues such as these are discussed. While I respect your point of view, the issue of dental amalgam , as a source of mercury amongst other sources, does not preclude the inclusion of thiomersal. One of the reasons given by those supporting restrictions or a ban on dental amalgam is to reduce such sources of exposure. There is a wiki link to mercury as such in the article and thiomersal is a mercury containing compound. So while there is no thiomersal in amalgam, a child with amalgam given a vaccine with thiomersal will have additional exposure to mercury. The point made is that the exposure to mercury is the problem.

I am not sure if there is an underlying issue here regarding vaccination....As far as references you are certainly welcome to add them.NATTO 23:18, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

The problem is the tendency for every article to end up being about the same thing... Midgley 23:21, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
That is a very general statement based on your point of view. The Dental Amalgam Controversy is a well defined issue related to mercury pollution and toxicity. Wiki links to relevant articles and topic are acceptable. If you have other reasons please discuss them on the talk page first. Thank you. NATTO 07:02, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Relevant, would be...Midgley 20:53, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Autism incidence[edit]

Autism incidence is increasing in Denmark, and in a fairly linear fashion (see the journal article for a graph). Thus, there is a rate of change in the incidence, which did not change as a function of the changing criteria. I've attempted to clarify the writing a bit, so that it is more clear. --Limegreen 00:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Dental amalgam controversy[edit]

I really appreciate your input into the dental amalgam controversy article. It is very easy for these kinds of articles to portray some concepts as true when the majority of experts believe it to be untrue. Even though I think an article on this specific topic is needed, hopefully we can keep the information clear, concise, and accurate. - Dozenist talk 15:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Total Mesorectal Excision[edit]

Could you give this cheerful topic a quick road-check please. Bob aka Linuxlad 13:41, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

A bit colorectal surgical for me, IE outside my area of expertise in particular techniques. It isn't rubbish, I would tend to assume it is correct. In the 20 years, or thirty anyway, staple guns have made quite a difference to how low an anastomosis you can do. Midgley 01:02, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


Hello, I'm a contributor on the French Wikipedia, and I see you've uploaded this picture on the English WP. Could you please upload it in Commons so as I could be able to use it on the French article about Richard Hooker ? My server doesn't allow me to upload in Commons... Thanks ! --Bsm15 11:38, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm very happy for that to happen, I may have to learn how to do it before it happens if it is left to me. Anyone? Midgley 01:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for help editing Fraser Island[edit]

I noticed you made some useful edits on the article Fraser Island recently. I've been trying to clean up the article as of recently. I too visited Fraser Island when I did a tour of Australia this past July (I'm originally from Canada). If you have any more info please continue to edit, I'd be happy to have an editor to help shape up the article. Bobo is soft 08:41, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Holotropic Breathwork[edit]

Can you take a look at this disputed therapy? [6]. Sam Weller 12:43, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Wakefield Master article[edit]

When you edited the article about The Second Shepherds' Play, you suggested creating a second article for the Wakefield Master. Such an article used to exist, but it was combined with the Wakefield Cycle after discussion on both talk pages.--Cassmus 22:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

entirely sensible of course. A

AfD Discussion involving you[edit]

You may already be aware of this, but frequency of autism is being considered for deletion, and Ombudsman (talk · contribs) has used the forum to level some accusations of past wrongdoing against you. Just a courtesy notification. MastCell 04:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't aware he was on probation for such behavior. I've reported it at the ArbCom's enforcement page. MastCell 01:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. He may not be salvageable. The page in question likewise. Midgley 02:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

More dangerous Ombudsman material

MMR Vaccine[edit]

Please see the edit history of MMR Vaccine as soon as you have time. I can't revert to my own most recent revision, and IMO the POV war has begun again. Heathhunnicutt 17:43, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Please don't edit war to restore your comments on Ombudsman's page[edit]

I have warned him not to use edit summaries that imply your remarks are vandalism.

Please don't edit war to keep your remarks on his page. Given the history between the two of you, it's understandable that both of you might be touchy, and it would be best if you took the high road. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 16:35, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Warnings have produced no effect. Midgley 04:33, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


Please see my reply (a little overdue) at WP:AE. Thanks. Thatcher131 20:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

This is a revealing edit summary[7]. JFW | T@lk 15:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

RRR =[edit]



AfD 18:44, 27 June 2007 (UTC)



Vaccine controversy[edit]

I'm watching them, and it looks like I've got some good company with User:MastCell and others. I actually decided it was time to try and overhaul the article(s) because of the timeliness of the "controversy" in relation to the lawsuit. Cool Hand Luke 01:04, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of David Ayoub[edit]

An article that you have been involved in editing, David Ayoub, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Ayoub. Thank you. Sideshow Bob Roberts 20:06, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Royal Rife[edit]

(cur) (last) 11:42, 3 August 2007 Midgley (Talk | contribs) (38,463 bytes) (→Biography - where did Rife claim that? And unless it is established true, "fraudulently claimed" would be the correct phrase.) (undo)
Claim what? Obfuscation? Midgley (talk) 13:33, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Phishing[edit] - location of phishing attack. Midgley 14:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Kardashev scale[edit]

Hi, recently the Kardashev scale entry has gone through some major reverts, I'd like to talk about the reinstatement of the material. I've looked around and have seen that you've made some remarks about the article, you mentioned that a Type II might not shout signals from space, and that part of the talk page has recently been updated. I feel we need to talk about the reverts and reinstatement, and talk about whether either are justified. Talk:Kardashev scale If you could help or add your two cents I'd really appreciate it. Thanks--Sparkygravity (talk) 13:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Survey request[edit]

I need your help. I am working on a research project at Boston College, studying creation of medical information on Wikipedia. You are being contacted, because you have been identified as an important contributor to one or more articles.

Would you will be willing to answer a few questions about your experience? We've done considerable background research, but we would also like to gather the insight of the actual editors. Details about the project can be found at the user page of the project leader, geraldckane. Survey questions can be found at geraldckane/medsurvey. Your privacy and confidentiality will be strictly protected!

The questions should only take a few minutes. I hope you will be willing to complete the survey, as we do value your insight. Please do not hesitate to contact me or Professor Kane if you have any questions.

Thank You, BCeagle0312 (talk) 14:36, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Afd of Mucoid plaque[edit]

Mucoid plaque is up for AFD... again.

The latest discussion is here. As a previous participant in a AFD discussion for this article, you are encouraged to contribute to ongoing consensus of whether or not this article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion.--ZayZayEM (talk) 02:40, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Cardiology task force[edit]

Cardiology task force[edit]

-- Addbot (talk) 00:07, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

T.F.AlHammouri (talk) 22:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Not really quite my thing, alas. Seems a good idea though. Midgley (talk) 14:46, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


Bollux. Midgley (talk) 22:31, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

"Ganfyd" AfD[edit]

I have submitted "Ganfyd" to AfD. Axl ¤ [Talk] 21:51, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Nomination of Ganfyd for deletion[edit]

The article Ganfyd is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ganfyd until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Burhan Ahmed | Penny for your thoughts? 10:25, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Note, this should be linked to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ganfyd (2nd_nomination) instead. Soap 12:24, 14 January 2011 (UTC)


Are you a Midgely whom I met playing a no-longer-existing word game on PopCap? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:29, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

No.Midgley (talk) 05:07, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Talk:International_Agency_for_Research_on_Cancer#Rebooting the renaming discussion[edit]

You were previously involved. Please see.LeadSongDog come howl! 16:59, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Richard Granger[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Richard Granger[edit]

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Richard Granger, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent. If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions about this.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion," which appears inside of the speedy deletion ({{db-...}}) tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. MarkDask 21:43, 24 June 2011 (UTC)


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Hello, Midgley. You have new messages at January's talk page.
Message added 11:43, 26 June 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

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I apologise for double stamping Richard Granger for speedy deletion. The article was severely lacking but tagging it the second time was only because you annoyed me. I dont often compromise my worth to Wikipedia but on this occasion Mea Culpa. MarkDask 17:56, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Check my recent record[edit]

Hey man I thought you might like to offer an opinion on the articles I have recently CSD'ed. hereunder I hope I can persuade you I aint a timewaster.

  1. [8]
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  4. [11]
  5. [12]
  6. [13]
  7. [14]

I spent the entire day on New Page Patrol and only CSD'd these. Choose which you would keep and let me know. Most of my time I spent reffing decent articles - and you can check that on my contribs. I hope this serves to assure you that I dont CSD carelessly. MarkDask 18:40, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

December 2011[edit]

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Coombe, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. The reverted edit can be found here. nprice (talk) 04:32, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I've known that for 2011-2004 = 7 years longer than you. And I know why Coombe is called Coombe, and tend to have been there. Midgley (talk) 04:45, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
I've responded on my talk page, should you care to read it. Since you have *so* much tenure here, you probably don't really need to read what I said anyways. nprice (talk) 04:51, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Since when is age relevant? The only thing you accomplished there is sounding like a dick. You didn't even check his account age! Frankly, I'm inclined to regard you as a pompous individual. It's an accident. Accept it and move on. Be the bigger user, if indeed age matters. Mythpage88 (talk) 18:37, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Age is nothe same as experience here. His page declares his start to be 2011, as mine declares mine to be 2004. The habit of checking things and thinking before acting grows with age. Both are useful for for writing an encyclopedia. Are you the same chap, because if not I see no reason why you should be joining this conversation. And you are rude. Midgley (talk) 01:41, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Deletion review for Lida Hensley[edit]

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I'm contacting you because, as a participant at Wikiproject Medicine, you may be interested in a new multinational non-profit organization we're forming at m:Wikimedia Medicine. Even if you don't want to be actively involved, any ideas you may have about our structure and aims would be very welcome on the project's talk page.

Our purpose is to help improve the range and quality of free online medical content, and we'll be working with like-minded organizations, such as the World Health Organization, professional and scholarly societies, medical schools, governments and NGOs - including Translators Without Borders.

Hope to see you there! --Anthonyhcole (talk) 07:13, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

THanks Midgley (talk) 22:06, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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You've been doing some fine editing, Artificial induction of immunity in particular. Have a pint on me. Chris Troutman (talk) 06:10, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
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Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter[edit]

Books and Bytes

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The Wikipedia Library's Books and Bytes newsletter (#2)[edit]

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Books & Bytes New Years Double Issue[edit]

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Books & Bytes, Issue 4[edit]

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Books & Bytes - Issue 5[edit]

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Books & Bytes, Issue 6[edit]

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  • New donations from Oxford University Press and Royal Society (UK)
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The Wikipedia Library: New Account Coordinators Needed[edit]

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Books and Bytes - Issue 7[edit]

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Books and Bytes - Issue 8[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 8, August-September2014
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs)

  • TWL now a Wikimedia Foundation program, moves on from grant status
  • Four new donations, including large DeGruyter parntership, pilot with Elsevier
  • New TWL coordinators, Wikimania news, new library platform discussions, Wiki Loves Libraries update, and more
  • Spotlight: "Traveling Through History" - an editor talks about his experiences with a TWL newspaper archive,

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:51, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

New Wikipedia Library Accounts Now Available (November 2014)[edit]

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says sign up today :)

The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for, free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for:

  • DeGruyter: 1000 new accounts for English and German-language research. Sign up on one of two language Wikipedias:
  • Fold3: 100 new accounts for American history and military archives
  • Scotland's People: 100 new accounts for Scottish genealogy database
  • British Newspaper Archive: expanded by 100+ accounts for British newspapers
  • Highbeam: 100+ remaining accounts for newspaper and magazine archives
  • Questia: 100+ remaining accounts for journal and social science articles
  • JSTOR: 100+ remaining accounts for journal archives

Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 23:25, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

You can host and coordinate signups for a Wikipedia Library branch in your own language. Please contact Ocaasi (WMF).
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New Wikipedia Library Accounts Now Available (December 2014)[edit]

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says sign up today :)

The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for, free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for:

Other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page. Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team.00:25, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

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Books and Bytes - Issue 9[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 9, November-December 2014
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs)

  • New donations, including real-paper-and-everything books, e-books, science journal databases, and more
  • New TWL coordinators, conference news, a new open-access journal database, summary of library-related WMF grants, and more
  • Spotlight: "Global Impact: The Wikipedia Library and Persian Wikipedia" - a Persian Wikipedia editor talks about their experiences with database access in Iran, writing on the Persian project and the JSTOR partnership

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:36, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:M gelling 1965.png[edit]

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:M gelling 1965.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you object to the listing for any reason. Thank you. Kelly hi! 21:20, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

The metadata provided with it, by me, is that it is an image I made, from a passport photo. I think passport photos are not restricted from copying, otherwise the passport system as operated by the UK and the USA among others now would not work or would be illegal. Pragmatically, it seems unlikely that the original photographer or his heirs will regard reproduction as requiring a separate licence. What sort of "evidence" did you have in mind, given the declaration already provided that I made it? Midgley (talk) 21:36, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
I btained a view from the National Archive, who talk to the Passport Office and other arms of the UK government. A photograph of a part of a passport - the picture of the person it was issued to as here - is not restricted. If it was practical to determine the photographer who took it, and they were available, then perhaps a problem might arise, but it generally will not be. The licence would be the UK Government licence, which is permissive for this. You might want to note that this wasn't a copy of a photograph, it was a copy of an element of a passport, and the copyright of the assembly is that of HMG, I'd say. Midgley (talk) 13:32, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 10[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 10, January-February 2015
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs)

  • New donations - ProjectMUSE, Dynamed, Royal Pharmaceutical Society, and Women Writers Online
  • New TWL coordinator, conference news, and a new guide and template for archivists
  • TWL moves into the new Community Engagement department at the WMF, quarterly review

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:40, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

A new reference tool[edit]

Hello Books & Bytes subscribers. There is a new Visual Editor reference feature in development called Citoid. It is designed to "auto-fill" references using a URL or DOI. We would really appreciate you testing whether TWL partners' references work in Citoid. Sharing your results will help the developers fix bugs and improve the system. If you have a few minutes, please visit the testing page for simple instructions on how to try this new tool. Regards, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 11[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 11, March-April 2015
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs), Nikkimaria (talk · contribs)

  • New donations - MIT Press Journals, Sage Stats, Hein Online and more
  • New TWL coordinators, conference news, and new reference projects
  • Spotlight: Two metadata librarians talk about how library professionals can work with Wikipedia

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:27, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library needs you![edit]

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Call for Volunteers

The Wikipedia Library is expanding, and we need your help! With only a couple of hours per week, you can make a big difference in helping editors get access to reliable sources and other resources. Sign up for one of the following roles:

  • Account coordinators help distribute research accounts to editors.
  • Partner coordinators seek donations from new partners.
  • Outreach coordinators reach out to the community through blog posts, social media, and newsletters or notifications.
  • Technical coordinators advise on building tools to support the library's work.
Sign up to help here :)

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The Wikipedia Library needs you![edit]

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We hope The Wikipedia Library has been a useful resource for your work. TWL is expanding rapidly and we need your help!

With only a couple hours per week, you can make a big difference for sharing knowledge. Please sign up and help us in one of these ways:

  • Account coordinators: help distribute free research access
  • Partner coordinators: seek new donations from partners
  • Communications coordinators: share updates in blogs, social media, newsletters and notices
  • Technical coordinators: advise on building tools to support the library's work
  • Outreach coordinators: connect to university libraries, archives, and other GLAMs
  • Research coordinators: run reference services

Sign up now

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Books and Bytes - Issue 12[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 12, May-June 2015
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs), Nikkimaria (talk · contribs)

  • New donations - Taylor & Francis, Science, and three new French-language resources
  • Expansion into new languages, including French, Finnish, Turkish, and Farsi
  • Spotlight: New partners for the Visiting Scholar program
  • American Library Association Annual meeting in San Francisco

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The Interior 15:23, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 13[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 13, August-September 2015
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs), Nikkimaria (talk · contribs)

  • New donations - EBSCO, IMF, more newspaper archives, and Arabic resources
  • Expansion into new languages, including Viet and Catalan
  • Spotlight: Elsevier partnership garners controversy, dialogue
  • Conferences: PKP, IFLA, upcoming events

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The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:30, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 14[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 14, October-November 2015
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs), Nikkimaria (talk · contribs)

  • New donations - Gale, Brill, plus Finnish and Farsi resources
  • Open Access Week recap, and DOIs, Wikipedia, and scholarly citations
  • Spotlight: 1Lib1Ref - a citation drive for librarians

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The Interior, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:13, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Books & Bytes - Issue 15[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 15, December-January 2016
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs), Nikkimaria (talk · contribs), UY Scuti (talk · contribs)

  • New donations - Ships, medical resources, plus Arabic and Farsi resources
  • #1lib1ref campaign summary and highlights
  • New branches and coordinators

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The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:20, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Books & Bytes - Issue 16[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 16, February-March 2016
by The Interior (talk · contribs), UY Scuti (talk · contribs)

  • New donations - science, humanities, and video resources
  • Using hashtags in edit summaries - a great way to track a project
  • A new cite archive template, a new coordinator, plus conference and Visiting Scholar updates
  • Metrics for the Wikipedia Library's last three months

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The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:17, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Books & Bytes - Issue 17[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 17, April-May 2016
by The Interior, Ocaasi, UY Scuti, Sadads, and Nikkimaria

  • New donations this month - a German-language legal resource
  • Wikipedia referals to academic citations - news from CrossRef and WikiCite2016
  • New library stats, WikiCon news, a bot to reveal Open Access versions of citations, and more!

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The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:36, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Wikiversity Journal of Medicine, an open access peer reviewed journal with no charges, invites you to participate[edit]


Did you know about Wikiversity Journal of Medicine? It is an open access, peer reviewed medical journal, with no publication charges. You can find more about it by reading the article on The Signpost featuring this journal.

We welcome you to have a look the journal. Feel free to participate.

You can participate in any one or more of the following ways:

The future of this journal as a separate Wikimedia project is under discussion and the name can be changed suitably. Currently a voting for the same is underway. Please cast your vote in the name you find most suitable. We would be glad to receive further suggestions from you. It is also acceptable to mention your votes in the email list. Please note that the voting closes on 16th August, 2016, unless protracted by consensus, due to any reason.

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File:Corfecastlegate00297.jpg listed for discussion[edit]


A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Corfecastlegate00297.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Kelly hi! 09:06, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Books & Bytes - Issue 18[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 18, June–July 2016
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi, Samwalton9, UY Scuti, and Sadads

  • New donations - Edinburgh University Press, American Psychological Association, Nomos (a German-language database), and more!
  • Spotlight: GLAM and Wikidata
  • TWL attends and presents at International Federation of Library Associations conference, meets with Association of Research Libraries
  • OCLC wins grant to train librarians on Wikimedia contribution

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The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:25, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 19[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 19, September–October 2016
by Nikkimaria, Sadads and UY Scuti

  • New and expanded donations - Foreign Affairs, Open Edition, and many more
  • New Library Card Platform and Conference news
  • Spotlight: Fixing one million broken links

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19:07, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

Scale of justice 2.svg Hello, Midgley. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 20[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 20, November-December 2016
by Nikkimaria (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), UY Scuti (talk · contribs), Samwalton9 (talk · contribs)

  • Partner resource expansions
  • New search tool for finding TWL resources
  • #1lib1ref 2017
  • Wikidata Visiting Scholar

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:00, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 21[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 21, January-March 2017
by Nikkimaria (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), UY Scuti (talk · contribs), Samwalton9 (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs)

  • #1lib1ref 2017
  • Wikipedia Library User Group
  • Wikipedia + Libraries at Wikimedia Conference 2017
  • Spotlight: Library Card Platform

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:54, 6 April 2017 (UTC)