Wikipedia:Requested moves

Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.

Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.

Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

• Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
• Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
• A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
• Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

• Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
• Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
• Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
• Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
• Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself.
• Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
• Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
• Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
• Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.

Undiscussed moves

Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

• No article exists at the new target title;
• There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
• It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Uncontroversial proposals

Only list proposals here that are clearly uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete (for example, spelling and capitalization fixes). Do not list a proposed page move in this section if there is any possibility that it could be opposed by anyone. Please list new requests at the bottom of the list in this section and use {{subst:WP:RM2|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}} rather than copying previous entries. The template will automatically include your signature. No edits to the article's talk page are required.

If you object to a proposal listed here, please relist it in the #Incomplete and contested proposals section below.

Incomplete and contested proposals

• Team Pacman (professional wrestling) → Team Pacman — There are no other "Team Pacman" articles, this is an unnecessary redirect —«»bd(^talk _stalk) 17:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  • "Team Pacman" plain, sounds like a Pacman topic, not a wrestling topic. Anthony Appleyard 19:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
    • Anthony, do you even understand why article titles are disambiguated? I ask this because I've noticed you contest a lot of proposals with dubious reasons for opposing the move that have no basis in any Wikipedia guideline or policy. I genuinely wonder why you are so active at Wikipedia:Requested moves when you still seem to be inexperienced in the area of naming conventions/disambiguation. Maybe Stemonitis or GTBacchus could help you out, those guys are experts at Requested moves. Crazysuit 04:14, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
• 020 (UK dialling code) → 020 —(Discuss)— There is no reason for this appendage. "020" is completely unambiguous and redirects there. —Reginmund 06:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  • 020 is a number, and a number can mean very many things. Leave the bracketed note on. Anthony Appleyard 13:30, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• The system is not letting me do this because Flammability redirects to Inflammability. Inflammability is not an industry term. The fire protection industry uses the word flammability. There are several nationally accredited standards to test flammability, for example UL94, ASTM D 635, 49CFR-571-302, ISO 3795 and NFPA 701. All use the term flammability. What's worst is that when you google flammability, our inflammability page is the first one that turns up and it's a bad term AND a bad article. Everyone on the talk page agrees that the article needs work and I was going to start by correcting the term but I need help with replacing the name. --Achim 03:04, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

  Not the normal way to file an "incontroversial" request, but it might be helpful to note that it was moved from the proposed title to the current title by cut-and-paste in June, so this should probably go through. 221.90.134.44 04:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

  • I have histmerged Inflammability into Flammability and Talk:Inflammability into Talk:Flammability. Both needed to be histmerged. Anthony Appleyard 14:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• Carling Academy Brixton → Brixton Academy — Brixton Academy is the name still widely used, including the media and ticket agencies. —SilkTork *SilkyTalk 08:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
  • If the academy has been renamed recently as Carling Academy Brixton, then the name Carling Academy Brixton will likely become more common in the future. Anthony Appleyard 22:16, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
    • It was rebranded in 2004. The name hasn't stuck. The official website is www.brixton-academy.co.uk SilkTork *SilkyTalk 01:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

• Lists of basic topics, Lists of topics, and List of glossaries were moved to portal space completely out of the blue and without any discussion taking place prior to the move. A discussion is underway at Wikipedia:Lists concernng the apparent contradiction between lists and WP:ASR (the guideline cited as the reason of the move). Please move the lists back to their original locations until it is decided they should be moved from their original locations. Thank you. The Transhumanist 22:10, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

  The main discussion over which namespace they belong in is at Wikipedia talk:Contents. I've asked for help with this issue at dozens of places over the last few months (namespace/list policypages, pumps, mailing list, individual admins) without any solid consensus developing. More feedback there would be much appreciated. --Quiddity (talk) 21:17, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• A mass move proposal is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Rank articles: capitalization of title. Fram 14:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

• I request that Me'shell Ndegéocello be moved to Meshell Ndegeocello. The artist no longer uses unusual punctuation in spelling her name, as the article and her website indicate. The article was moved from Meshell Ndegeocello to Me'shell Ndegéocello by User:MuzikJunky on September 13, 2007 without any discussion. Strobilus 17:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

• telephone → phone. More common name. Voortle 11:06, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
  • The form "phone" is slang. Anthony Appleyard 11:31, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
    • I checked M-W, AHD, Random House, and Chambers -- none flag the term as slang or informal. Do you have a cite that it is slang? --SigPig |^{SEND - OVER} 20:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

• Big stick Diplomacy → Big Stick Diplomacy—proper capitalization. Kuralyov 06:39, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
  • I thought that the usual spelling was "big stick diplomacy". Anthony Appleyard 10:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
    • It is not, because it's detailing a specific policy. It is "Monroe Doctrine", not "Monroe doctrine", "Manifest Destiny" and not "manifest destiny", etc. Kuralyov 03:59, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Google search shows a mixture of capitalizations and lack of it. Anthony Appleyard 06:22, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
  • I concur it should be capitalized. If "diplomacy" is capitalized, then so should "stick". Ng.j 12:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
  • There is no one originator of big stick diplomacy, like Monroe for the Monroe Doctrine. It happens whenever a nation with a big enough navy and/or army threatens a weaker nation. Anthony Appleyard 07:15, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

• The Oblong Box (short story) to The Oblong Box (no need for parentheses, but current "The Oblong Box" article is redirect to a film version based on this story) --Midnightdreary 13:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
  • I made The Oblong Box into a redirect between 2 stories which seem to be completely different (found by searching with Special:Prefixindex). Anthony Appleyard 15:46, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm satisfied with this (although, one is a story, the other is a film... I've updated the disambig page to better reflect this). Thanks! --Midnightdreary 21:46, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• Frederick II, Landgrave of Hesse → Frederick II, Landgrave of Hesse-Cassel — Hesse was not united during Frederick's reign and was composed of the landgraviates of Hesse-Darmstadt and Hesse-Cassel. Hesse-Darmstadt became the Grand Duchy of Hesse and Hesse-Cassel became the Electorate of Hesse, but because they had the same rank before elevation to different statuses, they had differencing names. The article was moved over a year ago on the assumption it was a noble title, but it was a ruling one. —Charles 02:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Charles listed this under "Uncontroversial proposals", but since this page has been moved four times since creation, I'd say that it's name is at least somewhat controversial. Noel S McFerran 02:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd say confused, admittedly, but certainly not controversial. Three moves were by one editor: Incorrect move to a form specified for kings, emperors and consorts, incorrect move to the wrong territory and a final move to the correct territory. A second user came in and assumed it was a title of a royal house (e.g. a title like "duke of Savoy" or "duke of Orléans") and moved it. A move to the correct territory is non-controversial in light of the past confusion of others. All of this occurred over a year ago. Charles 02:50, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

RM would certainly go through without a hitch, I'd say. If it is thought to be necessary given this, I'll go ahead with that, if not, I think the noncontroversial nature can be realized through the admittedly confusing move history. Charles 02:55, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

• The Toolbox Murders (1978 film) → The Toolbox Murders — Unnecessary disambiguation; a hatlink to the other similarly titled film works well. —Masaruemoto 16:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
• Toolbox Murders (2004 film) → Toolbox Murders — Unnecessary disambiguation; a hatlink to the other similarly titled film works well. —Masaruemoto 16:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
  • These two names are very confusingly similar and should be pointed to by one redirect file. Anthony Appleyard 23:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
    • Having a disambiguation page for two articles that are only similar means 100% of readers never get the article they are searching for. Hatlinks are the way these are usually dealt with, and means that some/most people get the article they are looking for first time. If they don't, they just click the hatlink instead of being redirected to a 2-article disambiguation page. Masaruemoto 02:28, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

• Athletic Bilbao → Athletic Club — The official and only name of this football club from Bilbao, Spain is Athletic Club, as you can see in their official page: http://www.athletic-club.net/ (Note: right now their official page is not working, try maybe tomorrow morning (European time) —Xagasi 03:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Not clear enough title. There are next-to-infinity athletic clubs in the world. Anthony Appleyard 06:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
    • I think the most prevalent English name for this team "Athletic Bilbao". --Howard the Duck 12:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
      • There are many athletic clubs, so I don't think this should be moved. Oysterguitarist 14:08, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Opposed - exceedingly generic. 132.205.99.122 19:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

• Grupo Santander → Banco Santander - there was a previous discussion about combing the Grupo Santander and Banco Santander Central Hispano articles to Banco Santander, but it was merged to the Grupo Santander article. As that term is not used by the company itself (anymore), the proper entry should be Banco Santander Alast0r 00:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

• Northwestern → Northwestern University —(Discuss)— Most people who type in "Northwestern" are searching for Northwestern University as it is far more known than anything else on the list. I think that there should be a disambig link at the top of the page for those who are not searching for the University. There was a previous discussion which resulted in "no consensus" but there has been talk since that last poll and I think consensus will be reached this time around. —Wikipediarules2221 20:08, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• Boondock → Boondocks — "Boondock" isn't a word; it must always be used in the plural. Presumably, the creator of the page "Boondock" was adhering to the "singular noun" naming convention. However, according to the policy regarding singular nouns, a plural noun should be used if the word in question is always in the plural form in English. Such is the case here. —GrittyLobo441 19:19, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
  • "Boondock" in the singular IS a word: read the page boondock. Anthony Appleyard 19:43, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Actually, most dictionaries do not support the singular usage presented in that unreferenced article. older ≠ wiser 00:50, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
      • Webster, Random House, American Heritage, and Oxford dictionaries do not acknowledge the singular of "boondocks" as a word.—GrittyLobo441 02:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
        • What about as an adjective as in "backward" or "unsophisticated" (from the article)? We're not a dictionary, so the dictionary test isn't valid. (Wiktionary does have an entry, though) Rocket000 04:02, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
          • That would be more persuasive if they had a source. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 02:59, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
            • The creators of both the encyclopedia article and the wictionary page were both mistaken in assuming that "boondocks" must have a singular form. Though wikipedia is not a dictionary, editors may and should use the dictionary to clarify which words exist and which do not. Correcting these errors is beneficial.—GrittyLobo441 20:42, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

• Appetite for Destruction (disambiguation) → Appetite for Destruction - There is three uses, two albums and one song. The more famous album is having the one without "(album)" etc... tags. The other one is "Appetite for Destruction (artist album)" and the song is "Appetite for Destruction (song)". So to make it look better the album that is "Appetite for Destruction" without band name should be moved to the band name and move the disambiguation to "Appetite for Destruction". --Woop-Woop That's the sound of da Police 10:34, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

  Or move Appetite for Destruction to Appetite for Destruction (Guns N' Roses album). Many people have not heard of either album or the song. Anthony Appleyard 21:32, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

  That's what I mean, the Guns N' Roses album should be moved to the "(Guns n' Roses album)" tag and the disambiguation to simply Appetite for Destruction. Woop-Woop That's the sound of da Police 14:55, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

• The Guns N' Roses album album sold over 26 million, it's clearly the primary topic here, so should be the article without disambiguation. Crazysuit 05:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
• I'm in complete agreement with Crazysuit. Someone went ahead and made this move a few weeks ago, and I asked for everything to be put back where it was. --Bongwarrior 18:53, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

It's not about how much it sold, I know it's more notable, but to make it uncontroversial I think it should have been with the "tag". Woop-Woop That's the sound of da Police 17:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Other proposals

November 12, 2007

• vampire films → vampires in film and television —(Discuss)— Already covers television, and is the main articles for the vampires in film and television section of the vampire article. —Gordon Ecker 00:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

November 11, 2007

• Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University → Virginia Tech —(Discuss)— Article should be moved as per WP:COMMONNAME because "Virginia Tech" is a much more common name than the official name of the institution. The name "Virginia Tech" also appears on the university's homepage and in its logos, and all other articles relating to the university begin with that name, such as Virginia Tech Hokies, as opposed to Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Hokies. —–Dream out loud (talk) 21:30, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• Brazil Nut → Brazil nut —(Discuss)— Proper capitalization per WP:NAMING —Hnsampat 20:48, 11 November 2007 (UTC) --Hnsampat 20:48, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• Origins of Anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea → Anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea —(Discuss)— More general title, restricting itself to "origins" excludes all other aspect of this phenomenon —Jjok 20:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• Teatro Nacional: Centro Cultural Miguel Ángel Asturias → Centro Cultural Miguel Ángel Asturias —(Discuss)— Official name for subject, as well as more adequate article title —ChaChaFut 20:18, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• Ysgol Gyfun Gymraeg Treganna → ysgol cymraeg treganna —(Discuss)— Wrong word in title (welsh)/mutation —Cf38 20:07, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• Australia national football (soccer) team → Australia national football team —(Discuss)— Almost all national football team articles uses "Country national football team" format. I think we should unite the standard. —Raymond Giggs 09:43, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• Buddha (disambiguation) → Buddha —(Discuss)— Per Talk:Gautama_Buddha#Name and Talk:Buddha#Renaming_this_article_and_moving_current_Gautama_Buddha_article_here.3F, it was discussed at length and then voted on that the prior Buddha article would be moved to Buddha (general) and this dab page would be moved to Buddha. In a nutshell, the basis for these moves is that, based on an examination of other authoritative encyclopedia, a Google search, and a check of pages that wikilink to these articles that the word "Buddha" is most often associated with the founder of Buddhism (see Gautama Buddha) and is only secondarily associated with "Buddhahood" and other aspects discussed on the old Buddha (new Buddha (general)) page. Moving this dab page to Buddha will prove the least disruptive/confusing to the general WP reader. Thanks for your help! —Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 08:48, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• Air 1 Radio Network → Air 1 —(Discuss)— Official name of the network is "Air 1." No disambiguation is required, and move was made with no discussion/consensus. —JPG-GR 07:26, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• K-LOVE Radio Network → K-LOVE —(Discuss)— Official name of the network is "K-LOVE." No disambiguation is required, and move was made with no discussion/consensus. —JPG-GR 07:26, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• City designated by government ordinance (Japan) → City designated by government ordinance —(Discuss)— A Japan-specific term, no disambiguation need shown. —Tokek 05:55, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• Nobel Prize in Economics → Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences or Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics —(Discuss)— Resolve longstanding dispute because the most common name for this prize is arguably ambiguous and "incorrect." This proposal uses a recognizable compromise title that showed promise on a subpage debate. Cool Hand Luke 01:52, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

November 10, 2007

• Greg Olsen (American football) → Greg Olsen — I thought i'd put this here because I dont know where else to put it, some one copied and pasted Greg Olsen (American football) to Greg Olsen, and the edit history is all messed up, can someone fix it--Yankees10 20:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

• National Assembly of People's Power of Cuba → National Assembly of People's Power —(Discuss)— "Of Cuba" is redundant; no other body so called exists. Target name exists as a redirect with edit history. —Lapicero 19:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

• Battle of Hulluch → Gas attack at Hulluch —(Discuss)— The only source that lists this as the "Battle of Hulluch" is derived from wikipedia. The attack lasted three days and only spanned a divisional front, so it pales in comparison to the Battle of the Somme, for example. It is, however, notable for being a gas attack. — RJH (talk) 14:05, 10 November 2007 (UTC) —RJH (talk) 14:07, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

• Talia Madison (Jamie Szantyr) → Talia Madison —(Discuss)— we dont need both her ring name and birth name in the tile of the pafe —Skitzo 12:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

• George Grey (Premier of New Zealand) → George Grey —(Discuss)— A change to "primary topic" disambiguation rather than "equal" disambiguation, mostly for the usual reason of one being more significant than the others and attracting nearly all of the links to the disambig page, but also because both the page's current name and its recent ex-name "George Edward Grey" have issues of their own —Pm67nz 10:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

• Holy Crown of HUngary → Holy Crown of Hungary —(Discuss)— The name of the crown accepted in the English language publications of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences and the Hungarian Catholic Episcopal Conference is: Holy Crown (of Hungary). This name is however occupied by previous naming. When trying to rename it now, I committed a spelling error (capital U in Hungarian). So the renaming was accepted, but now it has a spelling mistake in it. —Szilas 06:01, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

• AFP (disambiguation) → AFP —(Discuss)— the original AFP page already was a disambiguation page —Una Smith 02:01, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

• Lists of mathematics topics → Portal:Mathematics/Lists —(Discuss)— There are some previous discussions on where to move this page in the talk page archive, but that was apparently before considering a move to portal namespace (I'm not even sure that namespace existed at the time). Then there was a move without apparent discussion in 2006: [1]. Compare ongoing discussion at Wikipedia talk:Lists. I think Portal namespace suits very well here, per the description at Wikipedia:namespace#Portal: "The portal namespace (prefix Portal:) is for reader-oriented portals that help readers find and browse through articles related to a specific subject. It also may contain links to encourage readers to contribute to relevant WikiProjects". Note also that the current page name (in plural) is not consistent with WP:NC#Prefer singular nouns —Francis Schonken 00:34, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

• Frederick II, Landgrave of Hesse → Frederick II, Landgrave of Hesse-Cassel or Frederick II, Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel —(Discuss)— Frederick II was landgrave of the Cassel/Kassel division of Hesse, not of Hesse in its entirety. During his reign, there was a separate landgraviate of Hesse-Darmstadt. Both Hesses together made Hesse. I prefer the form Cassel as it was the form used in the titles, also noting that: Hesse-Cassel/Kassel ≠ Cassel/Kassel, meaning the city and its name is not the same thing as the landgraviate and its name. —Charles 00:27, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

November 9, 2007

• P8 pistol → Heckler & Koch P8 —(Discuss)— Per naming of other H&K articles. —GregorB 23:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

• Ride the Ducks → Duck tours —(Discuss)— More common usage possibly but be safe. —Simply south 21:05, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

• National flags inspired by the flag of Turkey → National flags similar to the flag of Turkey —(Discuss)— There has been no substantiation whatsoever of the claim tha the flags mentioned therein have been inspired by (as opposed to simply being similar to) the flag of Turkey. The article should be renamed, in the same manner as other relevant entries, e.g. [2] —The Gnome 08:54, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

• Masurian language → Masurian dialect —(Discuss)— It's a dialect, not a language —Xx236 08:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

• First generation immigrant → First generation citizen —(Discuss)— Only one generation can be an immigrant, so no need to qualify, but multiple generations can be citizens—Javidjamae 07:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

• 3d United States Infantry Regiment (The Old Guard) → 3rd Infantry Regiment (United States) —(Discuss)— Official name is "3d Infantry" but for Wikipedia standards, it should be "3rd Infantry Regiment (United States)" in order conform to Wiki prescedence for naming U.S. Army units. Please see argument: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_mediation/3rd_US_Infantry -TabooTikiGod 05:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

• List of non-canon castes from the Alien films → List of castes from the Alien expanded universe —(Discuss)— more accurate name —Gordon Ecker 04:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC) Gordon Ecker 04:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

• Anton Golovaty → Antin Holovaty —(Discuss)— Correct name of person —Ostap 01:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

November 8, 2007

• Golden Age of Arcade Games → Golden Age of Video Arcade Games —(Discuss)— Page deals specifically with the golden era of video arcade games, and not arcade games (pinball, EM machines, skeeball, etc.) in general —Marty Goldberg 21:49, 8 November 2007 (UTC) --Marty Goldberg 21:49, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

• Bible Training Institute → International Christian College —(Discuss)— Cannot move page as the page it should be moved to already exists as a redirect to the old name of the college. —GiollaUidir 18:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

November 7, 2007

• Male' Atoll → Malé Atoll —(Discuss)— spelling correction; the correct spelling now redirects to Kaafu Atoll, of which Malé Atoll is a subset —Tamfang 23:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• Jin Dynasty, 1115–1234 → Jin Dynasty (1115–1234) —(Discuss)— The beginning and ending years should be put into brackets for disambiguation. The current form is not correct. See also Jin Dynasty (265–420) —Neo-Jay 21:41, 7 November 2007 (UTC)--Neo-Jay 21:41, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• Pooka → Pooka (disambiguation) —(Discuss)— Pooka should redirect to Púca, As it constitutes a "Primary Topic" according to WP:Disambiguation. —20:45, 7 November 2007 (UTC)Verdatum

• The Simpsons Halloween episodes → Treehouse of Horror episodes —(Discuss)— Put it under the name most users would search for. —Scorpion⁰⁴²² 19:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• Jonathan Edwards (theologian) → Jonathan Edwards —(Discuss)— This should be the primary page rather than one among several on the disambig page since nearly all the links to the disambig page should go to this one. Cf. WP:DISAMBIG#Primary_topic. —Flex (talk/contribs) 17:38, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• Militia movement (United States) → Criticism of "militia" movements (United States) —(Discuss)— Bracton 16:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• Eduardo Perez → Eduardo Pérez —(Discuss)— Unclear which form of the name should be used. —Carcharoth 14:42, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• RTP 1 → RTP1 -(Discuss)— The name of this Portuguese channel is in fact RTP1, and not RTP 1. The sister channel RTP2 has a correct title.

• Asha → Asha (Zoroastrianism) —(Discuss)— I am proposing a move of existing “Asha” article to “Asha (Zoroastrian principle)” and the new “Asha” or “ASHA” has to be re-directed to “Asha (disambiguation)” page. (existing ASHA also to move later) This is because I see that a variety of Asha's with distinctive senses. —Avinesh Jose 07:55, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• Sophie of Sweden → Princess Sophie of Sweden —(Discuss)— WP:NC(NT) specifies, for females, the current form of this article's name (Sophie of Sweden) for the following: empresses-regnant, queens-regnant, empresses-consort, queens-consort and princesses around or before the 17th century. Sophie was "only" a grand duchess and in practise, and cited as in accordance with WP:NC(NT), articles for consorts below the rank of queen are moved to the form Title Givenname of Place. —Charles 05:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• Portal:Egyptology → Portal:Ancient Egypt —([[Talk:Portal:Egyptology#Requested move|Discuss]])— (discuss)This portal deals more with Ancient Egypt content than Egyptology content, which is too narrow a focus. Suggest moving to portal:Ancient Egypt. NB there is a redirect there which has more than one edit in its history and a talk page with some content on it, so need admin help if we move —Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 03:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Backlog

Move dated sections here after five days have passed.

• Premier of the Republic of China → President of the Executive Yuan —(Discuss)— The current name isn't either common or official, the common name Premier of Taiwan, is more controversial for the Pan-Blue Wikipedians, so I suggest moving this article to the official name President of the Executive Yuan. —Jerry 21:09, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

• Richard Curtis (screenwriter) → Richard Curtis —(Discuss)— This page was originally at Richard Curtis but was moved to disambiguate from Richard Curtis (politician). However it is my opinion that the screenwriter is the more well known and brief look through the incoming links on Richard Curtis appear to mostly relate to the screenwriter rather than the politician. —Tim! 17:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

• BWF (disambiguation) → BWF —(Discuss)— The disambiguation page should be located at BWF, as the acronym has several common meanings. —Korg (talk) 17:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

• Mormonism and Christianity → Latter Day Saints and mainstream Christianity —(Discuss)— Mormonism is a deprecated term that is often considered offensive. The Manual of Style recommends Latter Day Saints. The comparison is not with Christianity as a whole, but mainstream (or common) Christianity. Current title uses deprecated and offensive title for the LDS and inherently implies "Mormonism" is a separate faith from Christianity (which is the POV of some Christians, not a universal or scholarly consensus). —Vassyana 11:50, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

  It doesn't say "vs. Christianity", so I'm not sure that the implication is there? - jc37 12:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

• Regional Electricity Companies → Public Electricity Suppliers — article now deals with the Scottish boards which including the RECs where referred to as Public Electricity Suppliers --Barryob Vigeur de dessus 11:40, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

• Port Authority Trans-Hudson → PATH —(Discuss)— This is the primary use of PATH so it can be moved over the redirect with a top link added to the dab page. The previous discussion indicates that there may be support for this move. —Vegaswikian 19:32, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• FC Steaua Bucureşti → FC Steaua Bucharest —(Discuss)— The result in Dynamo Kiev is clear, but someone still using consensus as their criteria. So I have to make the discussion. I don't prefer to do this, but I still have to copy the naming convention there. (The convention is listed at the next proposal, I don't copy it again.) —Raymond Giggs 17:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• FC Arsenal Kyiv → FC Arsenal Kiev —(Discuss)— I don't want to repeat it again, but consensus(who opposed moving Dynamo Kyiv to Dynamo Kiev) still using their criteria. Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Sports teams has stated clearly:

Sports teams This is the English language Wikipedia so generally the regular English name should be used. For example, use Bayern Munich rather than FC Bayern München, Red Star Belgrade rather than Crvena Zvezda and so on. Note the English name is not always the 'authentic' name used on the club crest and so on. For example, Sporting Clube de Portugal are always called Sporting Lisbon in the English-speaking world.

—Raymond Giggs 16:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• Bewick's Swan → Tundra Swan —(Discuss)— see reasoning on article talk page. SP-KP 15:57, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• Road safety camera → Road rule camera —(Discuss)— Bus lane, toll-booth and high-occupancy vehicle lane cameras have virtually nothing to do with safety. —Jusjih 15:05, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• Auto racing → Automobile racing —(Discuss)— as per WP:ENGVAR "a common substitute (such as fixed-wing aircraft) is favored over national varieties" and "Use an unambiguous word or phrase in preference to one that is ambiguous because of national differences." —Bungalowbill 14:42, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• Eddie Lee → Eddie Li —(Discuss)— Two different spellings for the same actor's name. Li seems to be most accepted, i.e. the actor shows up on IMDB under Eddie Li. Eddie Lee brings up a list of crew members, none of which seem to have any connection to the actor in question. —Esilenna 11:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• Felidae → Felines —(Discuss)— As stated by Alai at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2007/October/29, the page should be renamed for uniformity - the category name is Category:Felines. —Od Mishehu 08:12, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• William Marks (Latter Day Saint) → William Marks (Latter Day Saints) —(Discuss)— This change might seem a bit counterintuitive, but all other bio articles involving individuals related to the Latter Day Saint movement use the pluralized "(Latter Day Saints)" as the DAB term. See, e.g., William Smith (Latter Day Saints), Martin Harris (Latter Day Saints), William Law (Latter Day Saints). —Snocrates 00:05, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• Susan Mayer → Susan Delfino —(Discuss)— There seems to be an editwar going on, with conflicting opinions on "Susan Mayer" or "Susan Delfino" as the base name for this article and the character it covers. I have never seen the show and thus have no opinion other then the fact that a discussion needs to take place. —Krushia 23:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

• 1986 EDSA Revolution → People Power Revolution —(Discuss)— We've discussed it on the talk page. No-one really calls it "1986 EDSA Revolution", as it was the first to take place, the 2000s one was called "EDSA II" which shouldn't confuse anyone. —ætərnal ðrAعon 11:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

• Town of Oyster Bay, New York -- Towns in New York do not typically have "Town of" in their article titles. Meanwhile, hamlets are simply average unincorporated places; the status of its being a CDP is less common (all CDPs are hamlets, but not all hamlets are CDPs) and therefore should be noted in the name. Anyway, that's the standard way for naming these articles. --Nyttend 03:07, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Town of Oyster Bay, New York → Oyster Bay, New York
  • Oyster Bay (hamlet), New York → Oyster Bay (CDP), New York
    • Or Town of Oyster Bay, New York → Oyster Bay (town), New York and leave Oyster Bay (hamlet), New York where it is. Many people (including me) outside America do not know what a CDP is. Anthony Appleyard 14:35, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
• Mala Prespa and Golo Bardo → Mala Prespa and Golo Brdo —(Discuss)— Wrong transliteration of the Macedonian language term used by the officialy recognized Ethnic Macedonian minority in Albania. —21:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)Dzole

Oppose. There are both Macedonian and Bulgarian minorities in Albania and fail to see how to see why why the ethnic Macedonian spelling is preferred. ForeignerFromTheEast 22:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

An existence of a Bulgarian ethnic minority is not officialy recognized by official Albania.[3] (source: Southeast European Times),and hence the Bulgarian language is not in official use. There's no a reason why the title should be in Bulgarian. However I didnt remove the Bulgarian spelling inside the article, its still there (despite not being properly sourced) Dzole

Support. As seen above Albania says there is no Bulgarian minority. It would be irredentist POV to list Macedonian cities under Bulgarian names. Ireland101 23:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Meanwhile, several additional sources were added (explained in a detail), and an image, along with a source, which has been already accepted by many other editors in Vergina Star. Dzole 05:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

• Spice World (film) → Spice World —(Discuss)— Spice World currently redirects to Spiceworld (the album) with a hat to Spice World. This seems backwards to me. The movie is definitely better known, and the space/capital configuration is the proper spelling for the movie but improper for the album. A move to Spice World for the movie with a hat disambig at the top would suffice. — Revolving Bugbear (formerly Che Nuevara) 22:10, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• Western concert flute → Flute —(Discuss)— overwhelming weight of modern usage (just ask google or any search engine) —Blouis79 21:17, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• 64 de Hakken! Tamagotchi Minna de Tamagotchi World → Tamagotchi 64: Minna de Tamagotchi World —(Discuss)— Tamagotchi or a N64 discovery Tamagotchi, are descriptive notes above the tile. —Floppydog66 21:13, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• The University of Southern Mississippi → University of Southern Mississippi —(Discuss)— Relist to gather additional voices. I believe there was already sufficient agreement to move, despite one dissent, but would welcome further comments. —Septentrionalis PMAnderson 15:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume Two: No World for Tomorrow → No World for Tomorrow —(Discuss)— The album has been released and the official title is "No World for Tommorow". There is no evidence to suggest that "Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume Two" should be included in the title. —MikeCerm 17:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Relisting, a SNAFU occurred. Duja► 12:24, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• I forgot to list these on the day (10:53, 1 November 2007 (UTC)) that I requested the move, but here they are. These are all requested moves to bring them inline with the current naming convention pertaining to film series. Some of these have yet to be contested, however there are some exceptions. I am putting them together here, however, it is best that they be discussed individually. - LA @ 10:57, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Apocalypse Trilogy → Apocalypse (film series) — (discuss)
  • Apu trilogy → Apu (film series) — (discuss) (nc)
  • Black Triad trilogy → Black Triad (film series) — (discuss)
  • Blade Trilogy → Blade (film series) — (discuss)
  • Bourne Trilogy → Bourne (film series) — (discuss)
  • BRD Trilogy → BRD (film series) — (discuss)
  • Calcutta trilogy → Calcutta (film series) — (discuss)
  • Dollars Trilogy → Dollars (film series) — (discuss) (nc)
  • Europa trilogy → Europa (film series) — (discuss)
  • The Grudge Trilogy → The Grudge (film series) — (discuss) (moved)
  • The Human Condition (film trilogy) → The Human Condition (film series) — (discuss) (nc)
  • Koker trilogy → Koker (film series) — (discuss)
  • The Lord of the Rings film trilogy → The Lord of the Rings (film series) — (discuss)
  • Mediocre American Man Trilogy → Mediocre American Man (film series) — (discuss)
  • Mexico Trilogy → Mexico (film series) — (discuss)
  • Pusher trilogy → Pusher (film series) — (discuss)
  • Qatsi trilogy → Qatsi (film series) — (discuss) (nc)
  • Road Movie Trilogy → Road (film series) — (discuss)
  • Samurai Trilogy → Samurai (film series) — (discuss) (nc)
  • Spy Kids trilogy → Spy Kids (film series) — (discuss)
  • Star Wars original trilogy → Star Wars (original film series) — (discuss)
  • Star Wars prequel trilogy → Star Wars (prequel film series) — (discuss)
  • The Sabata Trilogy → The Sabata (film series) — (discuss)

• Market Street, San Francisco, California → Market Street (San Francisco) —(Discuss)— Name of article should be in line with naming conventions used for articles on other San Francisco streets, which, when disambiguation is needed, follow the "Street name (San Francisco)" format. "Market Street (San Francisco)" is currently a redirect to the current article, so I was unable to make the move myself. —Eco84 | Talk 02:46, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• Militsiya → Militia (Police) —(Discuss)— The term Militia was used in many former communist states in their respective official languages. Currently it is not clear what perspective the article deals with: Only the ex-Soviet and/or the modern Russian one? Or it includes the Eastern Bloc countries such as Poland which had the Milicja Obywatelska and the Non-Aligned SFR Yugoslavia which had its own Milicija? All of these countries regardless of their differences adopted the term "militia" for their police forces following the same Bolshevik Leninist example: The usage of the term "militia" for "police", despite its original military conotation, originates from early Soviet history, when the Bolsheviks intended to associate their new law enforcement authority with the self-organization of the people and to distinguish it from the "bourgeois class protecting" police. A decision should be made: either the article will deal with the Russian police only OR it will deal with all the (former) communist police forces named Militia regardless of the country. Moreover the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs (Ministry of Police) has its own article with a detailed overview of the history of law enforcement in Russia. —Dzole 02:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• Elizabeth Charlotte, Princess Palatine → Elizabeth Charlotte of the Palatinate —(Discuss)— The current name for Liselotte is in a form which is almost always prescribed for individuals holding substantive titles or titles in their own right. Liselotte, however, was not one of these people, nor was she a princess in the sense of holding it as a title. The daughter of an elector, her father held a hereditary position and used the territorial designation of his reigning title, Count Palatine of the Rhine, that is, the Palatinate of the Rhine. Thus, Liselotte could be described as of the Rhine, of the Palatinate or of Simmern, the name of her line of the House of Wittelsbach. The designation of the Palatinate, however, is the most common one for her. —Charles 01:20, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• New Hampshire International Speedway → New Hampshire Motor Speedway —(Discuss)— I am proposing this move because of the annoucement to rename the track after Bruton Smith Purchased the track. The soruce for the name changes are here at http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=99758&p=irol-newsArticle&t=Regular&id=1071914& and http://www.jayski.com/pages/tracks/nhis.htm. I am holding off on this right now becasue I don't know if the name change is active or not yet. The discussion is to rather go ahead and make the change or hold off until the begining of next year. — Sawblade05 ^{(talk to me | my wiki life)} 21:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• KV62 → Tomb of Tutankhamun —(Discuss)— WP:NC(CN). Common name. —WP:NC(CN) SilkTork *SilkyTalk 21:08, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• Blood Tribunal of Toruń → Execution at Thorn —(Discuss)— Made-up title versus established one. Ironically, it is the established one that is still in red letters. —Sciurinæ 18:07, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• Battle of Krojanty → Skirmish of Krojanty —(Discuss)— Was not a battle, but the skirmish that lead to the famous myth of Polish cavalry attacking German tanks — Matthead ^discuß!     O       13:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Inflammatory request by a user known for his attitude problem. --Poeticbent talk 16:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• Shapefile → ESRI Shapefile —(Discuss)— this is the official name of the format, as pointed out in the article itself and as used on the developer's (ESRI) website —eneuron 10:28, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• Negeri Sembilan FA (NS NAZA) → Negeri Sembilan FA —(Discuss)— No sponsor is better, but it common name is Negeri Sembilan, i don't know it should use FA, FC, or (football club). —Matthew_hk tc 03:59, 2 November 2007 (UTC) Matthew_hk tc 03:59, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• M82 Barrett rifle → Barrett M82 —(Discuss)— To follow the proper article title format with manufacturer, then the weapon name. Also keeps similarity to Barrett M95 and Barrett M468, or any other firearm article such as Heckler & Koch G36 or Steyr AUG. M82 Barrett rifle is not a U.S. Military designation, so that is not a reason to object the move. —Hayden120 00:04, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• Northern Line → Northern line —(Discuss)— All other London Underground lines are in "Name line" format, as per Transport for London's current naming convention  — MapsMan [ talk | cont ] — 20:24, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

• List of basic self topics → Self —(Discuss)— This is the best general article about the concept of the self, taking the place of the disambiguation page now at Self (disambiguation) —Ewlyahoocom 08:47, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

• Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 14:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

• Bacab → Bacabs —(Discuss)— Bacabs links up with non-English Wikipedias and the plural is more common than the singular —86.87.62.150 21:30, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

• The Boondocks (comic strip) → The Boondocks —(Discuss)— "The Boondocks" only directly refers to two things: a comic strip and a television show. Currently, the space in question serves only as a redirect to a scanty, unnecessary disambiguation page. In other instances where a comic has become a show, the comic traditionally retains the primary namespace (see Dilbert and Dilbert (TV series); The Batman and The Batman (TV series) —GrittyLobo441 19:02, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
  • See Talk:Boondocks for additional discussion. - EurekaLott 20:06, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
    • And a song, makes 3 things. Anthony Appleyard 22:51, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
      • The song's title doesn't include the definite article "the". "The Boondocks" refers to two things.GrittyLobo441 16:21, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• Rodimus → Hot Rod (Transformers) - Discuss - Wikipedia: Naming conflict suggests quite clearly [[4]] that common names take precednce over current. Hot Rod is far better known than Rodimus and has been used in the bulk of fiction (including the most recent IDW comics), while Rodimus has only a few toys, and is used primarily because Hot Rod is copyrighted these days.SMegatron 14:26, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

• Civil war in Iraq → Sectarian violence in Iraq - (Discuss) — This is the proper name since by the article's own admission the violence "has the elements" of Civil War but it still cannot yet be classified as such, WP:CRYSTAL. We can all agree there is "Sectarian violence" and this is what the article is about —Southern Texas 19:43, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

• Audience wave → The Wave —(Discuss)— Replace Wikipedia neologism with term used in North America, where The Wave was born. —Mwalcoff 23:40, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

• Fictional film → Fiction film —(Discuss)— Move over redirect. A "fiction film" is a film that is a work of fiction. A "fictional film" is a film that exists within a work of fiction, such as those in Category:Fictional films. —Otto4711 19:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

• Public Enemy (band) → Public Enemy —(Discuss)— revert warring at the main entry, let's discuss it —Ewlyahoocom 03:39, 21 October 2007 (UTC)