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which one of his movies has the bad guy as the good guy?
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== Who Want To Be A Millionaire odd question ==

A few minutes ago on TV was this question: Which is nearest to the equator: [[Mount Rushmore]], the [[Suez Canal]], the [[Gobi Desert]], or [[Ayers Rock]]? And the man said it was.....Ayers Rock. Is that correct? [[Special:Contributions/89.240.34.241|89.240.34.241]] ([[User talk:89.240.34.241|talk]]) 19:57, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

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April 6

hey

what is lil waynes hotmail address? —Preceding unsigned comment added by XXrecklessXx (talkcontribs) 05:38, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Celebrities don't often disclose or tell anyone their contact details, because if they did they'd just be bombarded with fanmail and spam. It'd be hard to get your hands on it Chevymontecarlo. 07:25, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While it may not be possible to obtain his email address for you, you can send him written letters at his current address in prison as he serves out his sentence until November. He is not allowed internet access while being held at Rikers Island, ( so I doubt his hotmail address would be any good to you) but there is a website that gives you information for sending him letters. He reads them and has someone post updates on the site. look here: [1] 10draftsdeep (talk) 14:38, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

more heartgold/soulsilver

i've actually got two more questions about heartgold/soulsilver.

one, is it possible to beat all the gymleaders, and rival and elite four, while using one pokemon the entire time?

The other is, the team of pokemon i was going to get was typhlosion, lugia, tyranitar, scyther (preferrably scizor, but i dunno how to evolve it), amphoros, and dragonite. I know how to get typhlosion, (level up my quilava to 36) and mareep (ampharos) but how do you get scyther to evolve, at what point can I catch Lugia (I've got soulsilver), and where can i find larvitar (tyranitar) and dratini (dragonite)? Jds500 (talk) 17:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your first stop should be one of the GameFAQs FAQs about these games. Does that answer your questions? Comet Tuttle (talk) 17:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your first question is quite interesting. It would be clearly be difficult, but it may even be fundamentally impossible because of HMs. Surf (HM05) is needed to complete the game and Totodile (and his evolutions) is the only starter that can learn it. I am not sure which other HMs are strictly required, but because Totodile can learn most of them, it might actually be possible. Note that Totodile cannot learn Fly, which means you would have to walk everything. You rather than me.
As for some your other questions:
  • Scyther evolves upon trade (with Metal Coat attached).
  • Lugia is caught quite far into the game, between the 8th badge and Victory Road.
  • Dratini and Larvitar can both be found in the Johto Safari Zone. 83.81.42.44 (talk) 18:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

After which city, progressing through the game, is the Johto safari zone? Thanks for answering the other questions.Jds500 (talk) 18:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is north-west of Cianwood City, but note that you cannot enter it when you first reach that town: you first need to get the SecretPotion in Cianwood and take it back to Jasmine in Olivine. I don't think you actually need to beat the Cianwood gym leader first, so that would be after the fourth badge then. However, the fourth badge allows you to use Fly outside of battle, so without it you would have to go back to Olivine and back to Cianwood again by sea. Therefore, it seems more practical to beat the Cianwood gym first. 83.81.42.44 (talk) 17:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As for your original first question, I found out that there is a actually term for what you are suggesting: "solo run". This page proposes some rules for this, but note that they allow you to use other Pokemon for outside-of-battle (HM) moves like Surf, so I think it simply cannot be done with exactly one Pokemon. 83.81.42.44 (talk) 18:58, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!! Jds500 (talk) 22:24, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

German chord chart

This sort of comes under both music and language really... I've just started to play the German Waldzither Mandolin and the only good information is in German and was hoping I could get some help from here. I was wondering what this chart http://www.waldzither.de/noten/Matrix%201-6.pdf means when in it's talking about Begleitakkorde, Nebenakkorde and Mollakkorde? Also the headings Tonika 1. stufe, Dominant-Septime der Moll- Subdominante Parallele , Tonika-Gegen Akkord 3. Stufe, etc?.. I've also noticed that the H is B and The B is Bb but on the first page it mentions both B and Bb, is it the same?.. And finally what is the 's' and 'is' found next to the notes? Thanks to anyone who can shed any light on this. 85.242.154.48 (talk) 18:37, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See the article Note. There's a chart partway down the page, compare the "English name" section with the "Northern European name" section. It should help. --Jayron32 20:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Here's some other translation guesses:
  • I put Begleitakkorde, Nebenakkorde, and Mollakkorde into Google Translate and played around with breaking the words with spaces or not ("Begleitakkorde" vs "Begleit akkorde"). They seem to mean something like "accompanying chords", "secondary chords", and "minor chords".
  • From the various dictionary translations Google provided, Stufe probably means degree, as in scale degree.
  • If you already knew about English scale degree and chord names, some of the words have obvious English equivalents: Tonika is tonic, Sub-Dominante is subdominant, and Dominant-Septime is dominant seventh.
  • I'm not sure what "Tonika-Gegen Akkord 3. Stufe" translates to in English, but it seems to just be a minor chord built from the third scale degree of the particular key in question.
  • In the key of F major, F is the tonic (first scale degree) and English B flat/German B is the subdominant (fourth scale degree). I don't know if the "b" in the Bb on the first page is significant. In the fingering diagrams on page 4, the corresponding cell in the table shows just B without the "b". --Bavi H (talk) 01:17, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou so much for your help... Absolutely invaluable 82.154.225.62 (talk) 17:35, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Begleitakkorde Nebenakkorde Mollakkorde
Tonika Sub-
Dominante
Dominant-Septime Dominant-Septime Dominant-
Septime der Moll
Moll-
Subdominant
Parallel-
Moll-
Akkord
Tonika-
Gegen Akkord
Subdominante Parallele
1 4 5 2 6 3
C F G7 D7 A7 E7 d a e
Primary chords Secondary chords Minor chords
Tonic Subdominant Dominant seventh [Secondary] dominant seventh Dominant seventh
of the minor
Subdominant parallel Tonic parallel Tonic counter parallel
Subdominant[?] Parallel[?]
I IV V [V/V] [V/ii] [V/vi] ii vi iii
C F G7 D7 A7 E7 d a e

Hyacinth (talk) 07:37, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Identify current song

I heard this song at the mall, I assume it's a recent or current pop song. One distinctive part is someone singing "wuh wuhh wuh" roughly like mi ti do (first note, down 5 -- or 6? -- semitones, and then sliding up a semitone). I think the main singer is a woman. Thanks! 198.161.238.18 (talk) 18:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, that is probably not quite enough information for someone to identify the song. The vocals/lyric pattern you are describing could fit a number of songs from a variety of time periods and genres. Any more information you could provide might help, such as the tempo,type of music, geographical area where you heard the song, etc. 10draftsdeep (talk) 15:03, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You could be right. But songs have been identified with less. I assumed this song was current and popular enough to be easily identified because other store patrons were singing along -- just not the kind of stuff I listen to. I heard it in Canada. I doubt it's Canadian. The "wuh wuh wuh" part is a recurring theme sung as to mimic a muted trumpet (at least that's how I would mimic such). The best description I can give you is pop... it all sounds similar to me. how about obnoxious? It struck me as particularly obnoxious. But that's just me. My next stop is Yahoo Answers...don't make me do it, refdeskers. 198.161.238.18 (talk) 16:51, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am going go with a couple of possibilities here, based more on the fact that other patrons were singing along and these artists are currently popular. (and may be considered by some to be "obnoxious" as you say.) It could be Blah Blah Blah (song) by Kesha or perhaps something by Lady Gaga. 10draftsdeep (talk) 20:45, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestions. The Blah Blah Blah song is indeed obnoxious but I'm pretty sure it was more of a "wah". The hook "wuh wuh wuh" seemed to be like:

wuh (8th note, pitch of E) wuh (quarter note, pitch of B below the E) wuh (quarter note, pitch of C halfstep up from B)

Starting on the "and" of 2nd beat in 4/4 time. 198.161.238.18 (talk) 21:28, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could this be it? [2]99.154.241.62 (talk) 06:53, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Solved -- thanks, 99! The song is indeed Spy by Shakira. 198.161.238.18 (talk) 14:57, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Christian Bale

why has a moderator not ruled on the additon of information regarding the alleged assault by actor christian bale on his mother and a sister? 2 information entries about this have been removed. someone working for christian bale is believed to be responsible. the christian bale site may need to be made to be uneditable, as the steven segal site is, to name one. thanks.189.200.1.1 (talk) 19:13, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Section title added. Comet Tuttle (talk) 19:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I clicked the "history" tab at the top of the Christian Bale article and saw that the editor who reverted your addition to the article asked, in his edit summary, that you see the talk page archives for why. I then clicked the "discussion" tab at the top of the article, and saw "Archives: 1", so I clicked the number "1", and rapidly found Talk:Christian Bale/Archive 1#Accused of assault by Mum and Sister which is a lengthy discussion from 2008 of the allegations. It appears that the allegations are not sufficiently established. By the way, the paragraph you added did not have an inline citation of a reliable source, which is especially required on articles which are biographies of living persons — editors are particularly sensitive about crime allegations in these articles, because some innocent individuals out there have been slandered on Wikipedia by anonymous and pseudonymous editors; see the Wikipedia biography controversy article. If you do have a good reliable source you can cite in detail, then I would add the information in the article along with your citations, and add backup support information if needed on the discussion page. Comet Tuttle (talk) 19:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia doesn't have moderators. We have admins, but they only can do things about editor conduct, not article content. Article content is basically a free-for-all where the editors with the loudest voices and most free time on their hands tend to win content disputes. In any case, Wikipedia has specific policies about biographical material about living people and that all contentious material be verifiable by reliable sources. I don't really know much about Bale or his Wikipedia article, but a quick Google search finds many reliable sources about the incident[3][4][5] so it seems to me that some mention - with appropriate care - might be justified. However, a quick skim of that talk page archive mentioned above does have some legitimate concerns about weight. Basically, that means that you can't take one aspect of an article topic and blow it out of proportion. Weight issues are tricky to resolve because they often require editors to have a deep understanding of the topic. This incident may not be as significant as say, Roman Polanski's legal problems. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 19:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think AQFK is misrepresenting the ideal nature of Wikipedia. Yes, sometimes people can make themselves loud and obnoxious, and that will tend to drive people away; however the way Wikipedia is supposed to work is for the editors to let the sources do the talking. It is somewhat unfair to characterize the entire of Wikipedia as being run by bullies, and people who behave as though that were the case often create the very conditions that their paranoia has led them to believe exist. If you have something you wish to have added to an article, collect some reliable sources and let everyone see and evaluate those sources. That having been said, sometimes there is some information which is irrelevent or trivial even if one can find it mentioned somewhere, there are editorial concerns as well; and being published previously is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for including some information. Wikipedia isn't really a gossip rag, so sometimes true statements about people aren't included in articles for stylistic reasons. Have a reasoned discussion, and arrive at a consensus with people. And Wikipedia is not for everybody. If it is very important that what you write gets published, and that you have complete freedom over your writing, you could perhaps start a blog of some sort. --Jayron32 20:30, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Information on The Wildflowers' (x Snake of Eden) Landeberg Triplets

I know their names are Calle, Nisse and Pelle; better know as Kelii, Izzy and Rock. They were on "Daisy of Love" and in Lady gaga's "Paparazzi" Video. The band name was originally "Snake of Eden" and is now "The Wildflowers" after one of their songs. The live in Japan and travel back to their homeland of Sweden.

Does anybody have an information on them;

-such as who is the oldest and youngest triplet;

-how tall are they; any other siblings;

-and the reason Gaga picked them for her video (their purpose in it).

Any other info would be appreciated.

ThanksWideeyed10001 (talk) 21:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]


April 7

During an episode of Steptoe and Son, a scrabble board was briefly shown. It had lots of rude words in it. Is a picture or diagram of the board available to see online anywhere? Thanks. Update: The episode was Men Of Letters, series seven, 1972. 92.29.111.79 (talk) 00:22, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Visible at 1:30 meltBanana 01:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. 78.149.173.243 (talk) 10:41, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, another place where you can find Dirty Scrabble depicted in a visual medium is the 1978 movie Foul Play. The game is being played by two old ladies who don't notice Gloria (Goldie Hawn) standing on their balcony and trying to attract their attention after escaping from captivity, and the scene is shot in such a way that the nature of the game is not made explicit. --Anonymous, 21:57 UTC, April 7, 2010.
If I recall correctly, one of the sweet old ladies creates a 12-letter word that starts with "mother-". How lovely. :) -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 11:44, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Western card games with "Eastern" scoring?

I enjoy playing Eastern games. One such game is Koi-Koi. The scoring seems different from that I have read of in Western card games. In terms of scoring method, the closest Western card game I can think of to this is Cribbage-- actually, I am a bit surprised that Cribbage actually is Western. Are there any other such popular Western card games? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.210.250.70 (talk) 01:13, 7 April 2010

Well, Mastermind also uses pegs to keep score, but then, the whole game is played with pegs. StuRat (talk) 01:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There are some versions of dominoes that use non-numerical scorekeeping, not pegs per se, but IIRC, I have played versions where the score is kept by drawing a "house" for each player with line segments, and the game is won when someone completes their "house". Its been about 15 years since I played this version (in Chicago IIRC) so I don't remember the details, but I do remember the weird non-numerical scorekeeping, much like Cribbage. --Jayron32 04:58, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, no, no!! I do not mean how the score is physically kept, but rather how points are earned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.42.156.169 (talk) 01:43, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, and what method of earning points are you looking for, exactly ? StuRat (talk) 02:33, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I gave examples, because I am not quite sure how to describe it. What I mean is that, instead of individual cards being worth points, combinations of cards are worth points. Please see the relevant articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.35.96.50 (talk) 04:39, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Pinochle is a notable example of scoring via combinations (as well as scoring through more traditional trick-taking means). Our stub on melds may be of use, as that's the term used in Pinochle. — Lomn 14:45, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bridge has two methods of scoring; points for tricks and for "honors", that is holding certain cards in yoru hand before the trick-taking portion start. Honors are essentially points awarded for good bidding. --Jayron32 04:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Pagat.com web site contains an index of card games classified in various ways, which may be useful, although it's clear that such classification is difficult. For example, cribbage is classified as an "adding game", but I looked under a couple of other categories for it before I thought of trying that one. Although the site contains a large number of games from many countries, koi-koi is not among them. The game is mentioned in the category of Games played with flower cards, but presumably you would not find any "western" games there. --Anonymous, 00:09 UTC, minor edit 02:51, April 10, 2010.

Most intelligent card games?

Some simple card games may be no more than a mechanical playing out of simple rules. Which games have intellectual depth, like chess? Poker may be one such game, because of the uncertainty involved, but are there others? The important aspect of chess may be that moves made now can have difficult-to-predict results in the future. This may not apply so much to poker, but what about other games? Side-question - are there any intelligent patience or other single-player games without opponents? Thanks 78.149.173.243 (talk) 10:12, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Canasta and euchre spring to mind. DuncanHill (talk) 10:21, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Some games may have complicated rules, but which ones have true depth? I'm not a card player so I don't know where Canasta or Euchre would be. 78.149.173.243 (talk) 10:47, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Contract bridge. --Richardrj talk email 10:56, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bridge involves lots of mechanically playing out rules, they just aren't simple rules and the rules aren't part of the game but rather part of your chosen bidding system. --Tango (talk) 12:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The question was which card games have intellectual depth. If bridge doesn't have that then I don't know what does. --Richardrj talk email 13:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think people's problem with contract bridge is that the game is usually reduced to a memorized set of "bidding conventions" with little attention paid to actual strategy. During the bidding phase, if everyone correctly uses the bidding conventions, all 4 players know the hands of each other, and the hand pretty much plays itself. I prefer other games of the Whist family, for example auction bridge plays exactly like contact bridge, but with a scoring system that has greater penalties for being "set", and less penalty for underbidding, which as a result turns bidding into actual bidding and not just a complex code for telling everyone your cards suriptitiously. Bid Whist and Spades and Forty-fives also come from this same family, and have similar levels of strategy and depth. --Jayron32 15:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
To say that "the hand pretty much plays itself" is a serious mischaracterization of contract bridge. (Of course it is true sometimes, but that applies to any card game.) You usually have only partial information about people's hands, and to play the game well you have to make inferences from things like what bid someone did not make, what card someone did not play, your opponents' mannerisms (but not your partner's), the probability of different layouts of the cards, and which card someone discarded eight tricks back when diamonds were last led. In tournament bridge (duplicate bridge), on top of all that you also also have to think about what is likely to happen when other people play the same cards, and this in relation to the particular form of scoring in use. It is certainly not easy.
The word "surreptitious" is also a mischaracterization; full disclosure of bidding agreements, whether conventional or natural, is required. If you find it distasteful that a bid in hearts may sometimes by agreement show spades rather than hearts, that's your prerogative, but there's nothing surreptitious about it.
I'm not saying a word about the other games Jayron mentioned, because I've played them much less or not at all, and I'm certainly not saying that Jayron ought to like bridge because I do. I am saying that he's giving bridge a bum rap to say it's anything but deep.
Further, the existence of complicated bidding systems (which people aren't required to use, by the way, although it's certainly helpful to be able to understand the implications of your opponents' bidding) is another way in which contract bridge is a deep game. Not only are there sometimes deep tactics involved in the play of the hand, there is also deep strategizing involved before you ever touch the cards, in the choosing -- or if you're inclined that way, the designing -- of the bidding methods you'll use. Of course, you will typically start by playing a standard bidding system, so that part's already been done for you, but you don't have to stay with it. --Anonymous, 22:39 and 22:43 UTC, April 7, 2010.
It's clear that neither Tango nor Jayron32 have in-depth knowledge of bridge. Both bidding and playing take a great deal of skill. It's a pretty telling sign that newspaper bridge columns are stilling going strong after all these years, dissecting the intricacies of both. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:36, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I started playing bridge at 7 or 8 years old, and played it along with many other card games, such as the ones I mentioned above, along several other games, pretty regularly (weekly to monthly) from that age until today. My extended family (mom came from a family of nine, so aunts, uncles, cousins, dozens of us) would get together every few weeks and play cards, most often bridge. Be careful when you say "its clear that..." I don't know what I am talking about. --Jayron32 04:55, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but what about Anonymous' response to your comments? --Richardrj talk email 05:16, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Anonymous said nothing wrong or inaccurate or made any attempt to spread falsehoods about my knowledge of cardplaying merely because I expressed a preference for some card games over others. He said I am free to like or dislike any game, as is he. I agree with his analysis 100% insofar as it involves defense of his opinion of contract bridge, and it is well thought out and well reasoned and an excellent analysis of all of the good points of contract bridge. His comments are great and informative for people trying to pick up the game. He didn't try to tell me I didn't know how to play a game I have played regularly for almost 30 years, as others did. --Jayron32 05:23, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I still don't quite understand how you can say that "Anonymous said nothing wrong or inaccurate" when his analysis of the game differs fundamentally from yours. --Richardrj talk email 08:04, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Anonymous explained aspects of the game that made it enjoyable or challangeing or intellectually satisfying for him. I explained aspects of the game that I found to be annoying or bothersome. His description of elements of the game was factually correct, and is not in dispute. His feeling that the game was enjoyable is also not in dispute because that is his opinion, and thus is beyond criticism. I am not a mind reader, so I cannot say if he is lying about his own opinion, I must assume he is telling the truth about his feelings towards the game. So he said nothing wrong. Clarityfiend said that I was inexperienced in a game I have been playing since the early 1980's, which is a falsifiable statement of (supposed fact). Having 25-30 years experience at something is almost never described as "inexperienced" under any reasonable definition of the word, so that statement is something one can raise an objection about. --Jayron32 19:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In my defense, when you say "if everyone correctly uses the bidding conventions, all 4 players know the hands of each other, and the hand pretty much plays itself", what else am I to conclude? It is impossible to know everybody else's hands just from a few rounds of bidding, no matter how sophisticated your bidding system is. As for hands playing themselves, oy vey. Hundreds of bridge writers would beg to differ. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:16, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is, the level of knowledge you have about the cards at the start of a hand of contract bridge is greater than the level of knowledge you have about the cards at the start of a hand of Spades or Auction bridge. In both contract and auction bridge, you can see 50% of the deck (your hand and the dummy's hand); however in contract bridge the bidding conventions allow you to communicate additional information about your hand that you could not otherwise communicate. If you pay attention to the bidding, you can reliably know, say, if another player is long in a suit, or has honors, or has lots of face cards, or none. That additional information makes your array of options, as a player, much easier to choose from. In auction bridge, I know a) 50% of the cards and b) what suits the opponents are strong in, if they even bid; it is not uncommon in auction bridge for both partners to pass the opening bid, revealing absolutely NO information about their hands. In contract bridge, because the scoring system places higher rewards for making the contract exactly and places less penalaties on getting "set", there are more opening bids, and thus more opportunities for extracting information about your opponents hand. This additional information is where some players find additional "intellectual depth"; i.e. interpreting how the bids give that extra information. The thing is, because of bidding conventions, I find that this information is too specific. For example, in auction bridge, if I open with a two club bid, it means "I think I can make 8 tricks, and I want trump to be clubs" and nothing else. I am bidding exactly what I say, and I reveal nothing else about my hand; I have a strong hand in clubs. If I make the same bid in contract bridge, I am saying "Hey partner, I have a really strong hand. Why don't you tell me what you have, and we'll chat back and forth and come up with a strategy on how we should play this hand, before anyone even plays a trick." By making several additional bids, my partner and I have placed more bits of information into public knowledge. Yes, there is something to learning the code, but once you know the code, its just table talk. It's just you and your partner saying, in the end "Hey, I got Ace and King of Spades. Do you have the other face cards? Good. And your short in another suit? Even better! Lets bid spades!" I prefer to make my strategy on the fly, I find it much more intellectually stimulating, as a matter of personal preference, to interpret the hands as cards are played; rather than hashing it out beforehand. Which is why I prefer games like auction bridge or spades... --Jayron32 19:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(Unindenting)

Can't you and your partner create your own bidding convention before the game, just to bewilder your opponents?

If you're talking about springing an undisclosed convention on the opponents, that might be bewildering, but it's also cheating. As I said above, the rules require agreements to be disclosed. If you just mean inventing a new agreement and properly disclosing it, that's legal (although in tournament play the sponsoring organization may limit what conventional agreements you are allowed to have) and a legitimate part of the game. Good opponents will not be bewildered. --Anonymous, 07:23 UTC, April 11, 2010.
If this is the case, then I am guessing that, in a computerized tournament at least, there is no need to actually bid: one need merely select a bidding convention before the game, and the computer will perform this phase automatically. This would kill any possibility of cheating.
No, bidding is not that automatic, although some bids may be required by one's chosen system. In addition, it is permissible to deliberately make a false bid (called "psyching") as long as your partner is as likely as the opponents to be fooled. --Anonymous, 05:25 UTC, April 12, 2010.

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Free cell solitaire seems like a somewhat complex single player game. StuRat (talk) 11:22, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Tarock, when played seriously, includes a lot of strategy and thinking. TomorrowTime (talk) 12:13, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't really help you much, but there is one game I know of that is 100% skill: snap. --Tango (talk) 12:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Another way of asking the question is: for what card games is it difficult to program computer players that can beat skilled humans? Poker I believe, what else? Thanks 78.144.248.81 (talk) 23:49, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cripple Mr. Onion..hotclaws 12:05, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hemidemisemiquaver

Which musical compositions have hemidemisemiquaver notes or hemidemisemiquaver rests? -- Wavelength (talk) 18:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
[I am wikifying "hemidemisemiquaver rests". -- Wavelength (talk) 18:38, 7 April 2010 (UTC)][reply]

I think you'd probably find examples of both of them in J S Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor! --TammyMoet (talk) 19:08, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The note sequences with four beams in the image at Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565#Toccata confirms the presence of such notes.
-- Wavelength (talk) 19:20, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Giulio Regondi's Reverie (Opus 19) for guitar. A review of one recording here contains the line "A slow introduction is followed by clusters of gossamer-like hemidemisemiquavers (64th notes) before the tremolo section is heard." Karenjc 22:20, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
They are not that uncommon. The first examples that came to mind were: Beethoven's String Quartet No. 14 (see, for example, the first complete score at [6], page 13), JS Bach's Partitas, BWV 825-830 (see [7], page 15), and Bach's Goldberg Variations (see complete score at [8], page 37). There must be many hundreds of other well known examples. Pfly (talk) 11:03, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all for your answers. -- Wavelength (talk) 19:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]


April 8

S you in your A's

What does "S you in your A's, don't wear a C, and J all over your B's" mean? I can figure out the last three, but what about "S you in your A's"? It's a quote from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, if that helps. Adam Bishop (talk) 05:37, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've never heard of this sitcom, but I just googled your phrase and apparently it's "F you" not "S you," which might make sense as "fuck you in your ass". 213.122.49.53 (talk) 11:58, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Screw you in your asses, don't wear a condom and jizz all over your boobs" caknuck ° needs to be running more often 00:27, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Lovely. -- Flyguy649 talk 02:13, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't mean anything. There's a running joke throughout the series that Charlie is braindamaged and makes no sense. I think the line after that is even "He makes less and less sense as the days go by." 202.10.91.173 (talk) 09:14, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's F, it definitely sounds like S, and I didn't think of "Screw you" (I guess I was expecting it to be more vulgar). But then, if it doesn't mean anything, that also makes sense. I've never seen the show, only this clip. Thanks! Adam Bishop (talk) 12:39, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name this game

I am trying to remember the name of a computer game I played about 10 years ago on a Mac (may well have been a PC port). It is an flying first person shooter not unlike Terminal Velocity with the exception that the player only controls the ship in two dimensions (although the game itself is in full 3D). The story involves the player attempting to repel an alien invasion of earth in the near future using a fictional high tech fighter plane of some sort. Many of the alien enemies were tripod like walkers. It featured live action cut scenes which I remember as being fairly high quality for the time. It also had a sequel which I played which was nearly identical in game play and style. Any thoughts as to what this game might be called. --Leivick (talk) 07:41, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Blind guess: Descent (video game)? Zunaid 08:27, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No definitely not Descent. The ship couldn't be flown up or down, it was limited to 2D. It also took place only on Earth (the sequel might have involved other planets). --Leivick (talk) 09:24, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please help me find this movie about a pair of undercover detectives dressed as blonde twin gals

At first, the two agents start out in New York and after receiving a delivery of what they believe to be drugs, the agent fights the alleged drug dealers, then when they're done, he opens the contents and realizes that it's vanilla ice cream. He then asks, "Where are the drugs?!" The deliverers assert that they didn't have any. They eventually realize that they made a massive mistake.

They're reassigned to the L.A. area and made to go undercover as a pair of blonde twin gals. A football star gets attracted to one of them. Also, a thief snatches a purse from one of the agents, but thanks to the agent's sprinting ability, he's able to overtake, assault the thief, and take the purse back.

Toward the end, when their true natures are revealed, the friends they've made said, "We liked the (name of) Twins better when YOU were them!"

I can't remember the title, and Google hasn't been forthcoming after I submitted a few of that movie's quotes, so please enlighten me here. Thanks. --70.179.176.30 (talk) 20:26, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

White Chicks. Adam Bishop (talk) 20:34, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

April 9

What's The Back gournd Music

An ad played for a pub advertised as a pub where the girls of Sex in the city would drink at 5:33pm or 5:32pm in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, today on the 91.7 Bounce radio station.

My question is what is the backround music playing?

This pub is located on Jasper Avenue. And the ad is narrated by a female sounding voice. The ad says that downtown is lively again, I think. I believe the pub is Hat.

Ok, searching a bit more, it might be this bar (well pub as advertised on the ad).

What is the background music that was playing (during this ad)?174.3.123.220 (talk) 02:11, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wangju

[9]

Is the first line "Tour Farther"?174.3.123.220 (talk) 02:12, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No. It is "Your Partner". -- kainaw 02:14, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Truth in Numbers: The Wikipedia Story - What's the hold up??

Truth in Numbers watch trailer Anyone know when this film is finally going to be released? or why it's taking so long to come out? -- œ 09:57, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Their own description has not been updated since 2007 with a planned release of 2008. If it was still planned to be released, they wouldn't be claiming that it will be released in 2008. -- kainaw 13:03, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The IMDB shows a planned US release date of 2010. As there is only a year and no actual date, presumably this is still tentative. --Anonymous, 22:58 UTC, April 9, 2010.

So I guess it's unknown as to why the delay? Has anyone bothered to ask the creators? I would but I'm not sure how to contact them, is there an email address to contact someone involved in the making of the film? I'll see if I can't get a definite answer.. -- œ 05:01, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Wikipedia is a work in progress and Wikipedia:There is no deadline. Maybe the work ethic of the encyclopedia has become also the work ethic of the film, at least to some degree. -- Wavelength (talk) 15:02, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Consensus#Consensus can change. -- Wavelength (talk) 15:19, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You can watch for contact telephone numbers at the end of this short video (about 3:50). -- Wavelength (talk) 16:05, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You can contact the founder of Wikipedia via Jimmy Wales (jwales) | formspring.me. -- Wavelength (talk) 00:35, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wow where do you find these sites... Thanks Wavelength! -- œ 13:08, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Truth in Numbers (3rd nomination), MFG provided a link which is redirected to the video.
(The video is similar to the trailer to which you linked in your opening comment, but some content is different.)
At Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2010-03-08/News and notes#Briefly, point 4 of 5, I learned about the second web page.
-- Wavelength (talk) 14:48, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. The result of AFD was "no consensus" and it got deleted anyway. The system works! Matt Deres (talk) 02:09, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Excerpt from "American Psycho" by Bret Easton Ellis.

I read this a few years ago, and I've been looking for an excerpt from it. I've spent an hour looking through my copy and Googled for another hour, but I just can't find the full version. I'm beginning to wonder if I hallucinated it. Can anyone who's read the novel tell me roughly where in the book Patrick says something along the lines of "If she has a soul, if souls exist, then all men must have souls, and I can assure you, I do not"? 202.10.89.143 (talk) 13:51, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's not in the book. It's hard to prove a negative, but the only places the word "soul" is used, is in a description of Huey Lewis and the News and their hit single "Heart and Soul", and when Bateman recalls an "incident" with a girl named Alison (Not a soul could've possibly heard about that lovely, horrible afternoon). decltype (talk) 13:18, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Other bands are in Wikipedia yet when I enter a band page it was removed

A while ago I wrote an article about a band called beef supreme. http://www.beefsupreme.ie is their site so the band exists. Other bands articles are written in wikipedia. Why was mine removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xual235 (talkcontribs) 15:05, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Probably because they're not notable. In order for there to be an article on them, there needs to be already some references to them in other professional publications such as books, magazines, newspapers and reliable professional music websites. Those references can then be used to construct the Wikipedia article. Without that media coverage, sorry but there's no place for Beef Supreme in Wikipedia. --Richardrj talk email 15:14, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The notability criteria for bands are here. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:22, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It is strange that many, many people exclaim "but they are a real band. They really do exist" when the article about their band is deleted. Simply existing is insufficient for a band to be considered notable. It is rare for a band article to be deleted because it is a hoax, but it is very common for band articles to be deleted because they are simply not notable enough for inclusion in the encyclopedia. The other thing to note is that claiming "Other bands are in Wikipedia" (also known as the WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS defence) is also unhelpful and is ignored as a reason to keep the article. Astronaut (talk) 19:22, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Latin "Te Deum" by Stanford

About 30 years ago I sang a piece of choral music in a concert at school. It was a version of the "Te Deum" in latin and I'm sure it was by Charles Villiers Stanford. Now I cannot find any reference to a "Te Deum" in latin by him and have been told that he did not write one. I've searched sites listing his works and also listened to online music sites, without success. It would, I assume, be either a separate piece or part of a morning service.91.110.143.151 (talk) 23:59, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Te Deum is listed in Stanford's article here, and here is an external link [10]. What is your actual question? Cheers. Winston365 (talk) 00:15, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, Winston, the Te Deum you pointed to was an organ work. The OP was interested in a work for choir. Stanford did write a Te Deum for solo voices, chorus and orchestra, his Op. 66, but it wasn't listed in our article; I've just now rectified this. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 01:10, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ahh. I saw it listed under choral works in the link I gave (as Op 115) and thought it was the same thing. I stand corrected, nice work! Winston365 (talk) 01:25, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I sang Stanford's Te Deum when I was about 8 years old. The title is in Latin but the text is from the Book of Common Prayer so that it could be used in Anglican worship - it is part the office for Morning Prayer; "We praise thee oh God, we acknowledge Thee to be the Lord, All the world doth worship Thee, The Father everlasting....". Alansplodge (talk) 08:03, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And is it long and boring, as in tedium ? StuRat (talk) 13:17, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's actually rather jolly. Traditionally associated with celebrations - when Shakespeare's Henry V wins the Battle of Agincourt he says "Let Te Deum be sung". Alansplodge (talk) 15:00, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Me again - I put some links in, and found that CVS wrote several Te Deums. The one I sang was I think this one[11] in B Flat Major which I believe is part of Opus 10. The Te Deum page also lists Te Deum in C, Op. 115; and Te Deum in A by him. The Charles Villiers Stanford page lists these as part of musical settings for Morning Prayer, which are going to be in English. However, I think I would go with the Te Deum, Op. 66 (recomended by Jack of Oz above) although I couldn't find any more details. Alansplodge (talk) 21:35, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Great minds etc. I've just queried (at Talk:Te Deum) whether he did in fact write more than one, because my source mentions only the Op. 66. The Opp. 10 and 115 are called "Morning, Communion and Evening Service". -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 21:49, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Well, many thanks to all you who so quickly volunteered help with this. Unfortunately I still haven't tracked down a Stanford Te Deum in Latin. Op 66 is in English, as are Op 10, 12, 81 and 115. I have managed to locate mp3 files for all these and checked. That leaves Op 36, 143 and the Service in D major for unison choir. I have not been able to listen to any mp3 files or see scores for these, so assuming the list of choral works on the Wiki pages is now complete, these are the only remaining possibilities. To clarify, what I'm after is an Op no., a link to an mp3 file or any other confirmation that Stanford did indeed write a Latin version of the TD. 91.110.249.108 (talk) 18:26, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Further to that, I've just found this page: http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/Te-Deum-Laudamus-Latin/19390793 - frustratingly without any further details, eg Op no, key, etc. I've e-mailed them to ask for further details and will let you all know if what they claim to have is the piece I'm looking for.91.110.249.108 (talk) 23:32, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The plot thickens - let us know if you have any joy. Alansplodge (talk) 17:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

April 10

Ear worm!

Hello Wikipedians,

I have a song stuck in my head, and I only know a bit of it, and google isn't helping at all! I think it's a dance remix, I don't think it's new. It goes "eh eh-ehoh eh" I don't really know how to show what the tune is through writing, I hope you can help! Thanks 65.255.185.142 (talk) 08:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you're going to have much luck unless you can record yourself humming or scatting it. 202.10.89.143 (talk) 10:46, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Cancelled" [12] by Milk & Kisses. I'm reminded of Clarence Frogman Henry's "Ain't Got No Home" -- but that's "woo woo", not "eh oh". Pepso2 (talk) 11:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tune from Mickey Mouse cartoon

What is the name of the tune played in this Mickey Mouse cartoon at around 7:37?--99.251.239.89 (talk) 17:35, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"The Girl I Left Behind". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots17:45, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It has many variations. Here's one mentioned in the article.[13]Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots17:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The first one that came to mind, which I finally found, is this[14] from the opening credits of She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, a great western classic from John Ford and John Wayne. "The Girl I Left Behind" starts about 1 minute in. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots18:05, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have heard this song in several Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies cartoons, and I looked up the name several years ago -- which I had forgotten since then. The only cartoon I can remember off the top of my head that has an example of this song is 1940's A Wild Hare. (I didn't see this cartoon mentioned in the song's article, perhaps it would make a good candidate for addition.) Bugs Bunny walks off at the end of the cartoon playing an arrangement similar to the O.P.'s Mickey Mouse cartoon on a carrot. Often the song is used in an American Revolution setting -- which makes me think Bunker Hill Bunny uses it as well -- although that is not the case here. Xenon54 / talk / 18:22, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, at about 7:55.[15] It's an old song with an Irish flavor and more variations than I can count. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots18:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
One big reason why particular songs got used over and over again in the cartoons, aside from fitting the scene: They were public domain, hence no royalties had to be paid. Other songs that were used frequently were songs that WB already owned the rights to, such as songs written for films they had produced. "The Lady in Red" would be an example of the latter. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots18:33, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What anime was this and what game was this?

There is an anime that I have seen that has a part or episode where a spacecraft heads towards the Earth and transforms into a space shuttle upon entering its atmosphere. It then transforms into a boeing 747 to land in some airport. All while the charcters inside get changed and masqueraded in some wierd digital-like way by some evil guy. Ive seen this a long time ago and I didn't manage to see or find out what it was called. Do you know what anime is this?

Also, there was a tiling game that I played also long ago where you have to put jewel pieces of various shapes and sizes into large figure slots. The figure slots move from right to left as youu complete each one in a particular set. Jewels come from a old conveyer belt on the bottom right of the screen, and they can be smashed into smaller pieces using a crusher-like thing on the bottom left of the screen. Once a particular set is completed, you get to do a sort-of boss stage, in which you have to complete a particular figure slot on the left while a mythical creature of some sort (like a centaur) on the right slowly destroys the pieces you put up. The myth creature is different for each set, and the harde the set, the more difficult the creature you have to face is. I dont remember how many sets there were, but there was quite a lot. I'm asking this because I really enjoyed the beautiful music and landscapes that were in the game, and the artwork done for the creatures is just spectacular. Anyone know what game this was? Yes, its a PC game. <class="autosigned">—Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.75.158.193 (talk) 22:13, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jewel Charm sounds a bit like the game you described. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:03, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, thats not it. There were no characters in the game, the pieces don't have to be in a particular shape or color, and sets are not worth anything. Also, there were different mythological creatures for each level (like a centaur, phoenix, unicorn, etc.), not just a dragon. Remarkable gameplay similarity, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.75.158.199 (talk) 10:09, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Magic Inlay (screenshots)? Clarityfiend (talk) 02:43, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

April 11

Premier League relegation/return statistics

Is there someplace on the intertubes where I can see statistics on Premier League relegation and rates of return? West Brom and Newcastle are back up immediately this year, and that makes me curious to see what the break down is... a nice graph with relegated teams on the Y-axis and years it took to return on the X-axis would be perrrrrrrrrrrrrfect. :-) 74.115.162.12 (talk) 00:21, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't find anything online but the data you need is available at List of Premier League seasons. Since i'm bored you get:

  • 1992-1993 - 2 x 1 season to return, 1 x 2 seasons to return
  • 1993-1994 - 1 x 12 seasons to return, 2 x not yet returned
  • 1994-1995 - 1 x 1 season to return, 1 x 2 seasons to return, 1 x 5 seasons to return, 1 x 9 seasons to return
  • 1995-1996 - 1 x 1 season to return, 1 x 4 seasons to return, 1 x not yet returned
  • 1996-1997 - 2 x 1 season to return, 1 x 2 seasons to return
  • 1997-1998 - 1 x 3 seasons to return, 2 x not yet returned
  • 1998-1999 - 1 x 1 season to return, 1 x 2 seasons to return, 1 x not yet returned
  • 1999-2000 - 1 x 6 seasons to return, 2 x not yet returned
  • 2000-2001 - 1 x 1 season to return, 2 x not yet returned
  • 2001-2002 - 1 x 1 season to return, 1 x 5 seasons to return, 1 x not yet returned
  • 2002-2003 - 1 x 1 season to return, 2 x 2 seasons to return
  • 2003-2004 - 1 x 5 seasons to return, 2 x not yet returned
  • 2004-2005 - 3 x not yet returned
  • 2005-2006 - 2 x 1 season to return, 1 x 2 seasons to return
  • 2006-2007 - 3 x not yet returned
  • 2007-2008 - 1 x 1 season to return, 2 x not yet returned
  • 2008-2009 - currently 2 x 1 season to return (West Brom / Newcastle are promoted) and 1 x not yet to return (most likely)
  • Overall there are 43 teams that have played in the Premier League, 7 of which have been in that league the entire time it has existed (Arsenal, Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man Utd, Spurs) by my read-through of (List of FA Premier League clubs)194.221.133.226 (talk) 08:56, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

since i'm really bored...

  • 22 teams have been relegated only to not have returned since been relgated. That gives you 45% of teams relegated have yet to return, 30% return within one season (15 clubs) and 8% after 2 seasons (4 clubs) - note not cumulative. Cumulatively speaking it takes around 6 seasons before 50% of the clubs that were relegated are back in the Premier League, but after that it's only at 55% after 12 seasons, since a good 45% of clubs never return! 194.221.133.226 (talk) 09:07, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

note that there have been 49 relegated teams, but some teams have been relegated and promoted more than once hence there been less teams overall (43) that have played in the league than there are teams that have been relegated and promoted. 194.221.133.226 (talk) 09:11, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! Outstanding, thank you! That's interesting that 6 years seems to be a bit of a cliff. I guess by that point you've largely replaced your roster and the new lads are from the Championship League talent pool so you kinda get stuck? Thanks again! 61.161.170.254 (talk) 09:39, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What I find is there are some teams (West Bromich Albion being a key example) that are seemingly 'too good' for the Championship but also 'not good enough' for the Premier League). They seem to yo-yo back and forth. Sunderland are similar but somehow I don't count them as the same yo-yo type team. Crystal Palace did it a few times too. As for 'why' my theory is similar to yours - when a club gets relegated they have largely a squad that is much better than the league below, so provided they can retain the squad they stand a good chance of re-promotion. If they don't, however, with every passing season it seems to be less 'guaranteed' that they'll return. Some clubs (Leeds United for example) suffered hugely financially and so ultimately had their fate decided for them. They'll be back one day though no doubt, too many fans and too big a club not to end up back in the Premiership (though I suppose that's what Notts Forest and Sheff Wednesday fans would argue too!) 194.221.133.226 (talk) 09:51, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

West Brom aren't a yo-yo club, they're a yam yam club. The parachute payment system gives relegated clubs an advantage over others in their new league. There is discussion about extending these payments to a period of four years.--Frumpo (talk) 16:29, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

With or Without You

In the U2 song "With or Without You", the lyrics say "See the stone set in your eyes, see the thorn twist in your side, I wait for you" and then "Sleight of hand and twist or fate, on a bed of nails she makes me wait, and I wait without you", but I've noticed that Bono in the first part says "I waits for you" and the second part he says "And I waist without you". Can anyone tell me if Bono actually says "Waits" and "Waist" instead of "Wait" in the song? David Pro (talk) 15:16, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know the song, but let me run these two possibilities by you and see if either of them make sense: (1) He messed up [it happens] and meant to say "waits" again; (2) He said "waste", as in "I'm wasting away" or something like that. Also, have you tried to google the song? Almost any song you can think of has lyrics somewhere on the web. Although that's not necessarily authoritative, as the lyrics often from average citizens listening to the song. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots15:25, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And, even if the lyrics are "official", that may just mean they list what the singer was supposed to sing, not what they actually sang. There can also be variation from one performance to the next. StuRat (talk) 15:31, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Especially if the song is recorded "live", where mistakes can end up staying for posterity if they don't do a retake. Or if the singer decides to change the words, which also can happen. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots15:36, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He's singing... "i'll wait for you" and then in the second he's singing "i'll wait without you" and he has an Irish accent so you're hearing a pronunciation of a word you're not used to. Having just listen to the song there's no doubt he's singing "i'll wait for you" and "i'll wait without you" (mine being from the 1980-1990 best of US album). ny156uk (talk) 16:15, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You might find the mondegreen article has some insight into why you heard what you though you heard. Astronaut (talk) 18:59, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shave and a haircut...

I'm trying to locate a file of the music that "shave and a haircut - two bits" is usually set to. In the UK we have many words set to this music, but what I remember is "barm tiddy batch cake - brown bread" from my childhood. Can anyone help with this please? --TammyMoet (talk) 19:13, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is one at the bottom of shave and a haircut. Adam Bishop (talk) 19:20, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well we really do have an article on everything! Thank you! Yours, one gobsmacked Brit. --TammyMoet (talk) 19:36, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There's a scene in Who Framed Roger Rabbit where the antagonist and the rabbit "perform" that short bit. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots20:39, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Seems to be used frequently by Amtrak trains as they depart the station:[16] Fittingly, the tune is used at both the beginning and ending of this song[17] which dates from 1915 when the tune was presumably still new. The original words to that little tune apparently were "shave and haircut, shampoo". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots13:06, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Snooki Polizzi's income

According to this morning's Parade magazine, Snooki Polizzi, of MTV's Jersey Shore, earns $2200 per year. Are we really supposed to believe that these guys aren't being paid for their appearance on the show? Woogee (talk) 21:40, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Or maybe she claimed $2200 of income last year; that's a big difference than earning $2200 in total. There are legal ways of reducing your declarable income in terms of filing your federal income taxes. The entire system of deductions is so complex that it is impossible to go into it all here, but when a magazine reports "So and so earned $XXXX last year" what they are really saying is "We looked at the publicly availible tax returns of so-and-so, and they claimed $XXXX of declarable income". --Jayron32 02:53, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

April 12

Can't recall dance song

I remember it from about 10ish years ago. In it, a woman (or someone who sounds like a woman) holds a continuous note for >30ish seconds. I thought it was Narayan by The Prodigy, but I listened to the whole track but it isn't. I realize I'm not giving a lot of info, but this is driving me nuts.

Thanks98.209.119.116 (talk) 05:31, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not a dance song, but When I'm With You by Sheriff has a really long and high note at the end, which according to the article holds the record for longest note ever in a pop song. That came out around 1990. 75.157.57.12 (talk) 05:51, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Silence (song) by Delirium and featuring Sarah McLachlan? Not sure about 30-seconds but her singing style involves a lot of holding notes for pro-longed periods of time. What sort of dance music was it? 194.221.133.226 (talk) 09:07, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Some possibilities though they may not qualify as 'dance' music per se.

Exxolon (talk) 15:20, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't listen to a lot of dance music, so this might not be completely accurate, but I would classify it as trance. The woman in it sang it like a traditional Indian song, not unlike the early notes of this woman here in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrf2k0Klc-U

98.209.119.116 (talk) 04:14, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reminds me of hearing Johnny Mathis on the Ed Sullivan Show performing Johnny One Note; he held one note for the whole song while The Lennon Sisters sang the lyrics. Amazing. --jpgordon::==( o ) 06:04, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Use of "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" song on Drew Carey Show

I love BTO's "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" and am sure that I remember seeing it on an episode of the Drew Carey Show when the guys did a striptease. I think that episode was made when everybody was still making mileage from "The Full Monty" (film). Trouble is, no one I've spoken to seems to remember the Drew Carey use of the song, and it's not mentioned in your references to other uses of that song. Did I only dream that I saw it on the Drew Carey Show?Choosewiki (talk) 07:30, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you dreamed it, you weren't the only one. Dismas|(talk) 07:35, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And the episode was apparently entitled "The Dog and Pony Show". It aired in November '97. The Full Monty was released the same year. Dismas|(talk) 07:39, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Song in the Suite Life of Zack and Cody programme

Hello. Can anyone tell me the name of the song that is played at the very end in the episode of the above programme, "A Prom Story"? Thanks. 86.166.101.235 (talk) 15:12, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not familiar with the episode, so I don't know whether it's "at the very end"; but would it be Tracy Chapman's "The Promise", as suggested in this question and answer? Deor (talk) 17:47, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. It is at the very end just as (this won't mean much to you if you don't watch the programme) Maddie Fitzpatrick and Zack Martin dance at the end of their prom. The clip in question can be found on YouTube ([18]), the song is at the end of it. Oh, and I don't think it is Tracy Chapman, the lyrics are the same but are different if you watch that clip.

No, it doesn't sound like "The Promise" (which I've just listened to), and the lyrics are different. Sorry. Deor (talk) 20:20, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Regional DVDs

What happens if I live in the USA and purchase (and then play) a DVD that is not from Region 1? Say that I purchase on the internet a Region 2 DVD. What would happen when I try to play it on my American DVD player? Would the movie not play at all? Would the DVD player not recognize the DVD at all? Would the movie still play, but with terrible quality (be grainy, scratchy, filled with snow and static, etc.)? Thanks. (64.252.65.146 (talk) 16:32, 12 April 2010 (UTC))[reply]

It won't play, unless you have a multi-region player. There are ways round this, at your own risk, such as here and here.--Shantavira|feed me 17:20, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Most multi-region hacks are pretty trivial. I presume you can easily get multi-region players in the US? I wouldn't buy anything else here in the UK. Once your player is multi-region, DVDs from other regions should play perfectly. --Michig (talk) 17:24, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Multi-region or region free DVD players are rather hard to find in the US. There are various models that can be unlocked by entering a code in the remote, but this is never an advertised feature so you will have to rely on other resources to find these DVD players. Buying a region free DVD player in the US is not easy to do, but if you're willing to put in the research, they can be found. Caltsar (talk) 19:30, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some software players, such as VLC media player, will play Video DVDs regardless of the region code of the disc or your DVD drive. Many DVD copying programs will remove region coding (as well as encryption and other features), leaving an any-region unencrypted copy. The legality of this will vary. -- Finlay McWalterTalk 19:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
To answer your specific question about what will happen: You will get an error message from your DVD player that says something like it's the wrong region or an incompatible disc. For exampe, something like this. --Bavi H (talk) 23:49, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note that the region coding is per VOB file, not per disk. Thus, some video segments, which aren't protected, may still play. This includes ads and sometimes extras. StuRat (talk) 12:50, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yiddush vaudeville comedian

I am looking for information about Shepsil Schnitelputzel, a comic who appeared in the '40s at the National Theatre on Second Avenue near the Williamsburg Bridge. This was a Yiddush vaudeville venue.

I notice you twice spell the word "Yiddush". Is this in any way different from "Yiddish"? I found nothing on Google, but you never know ... -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 19:38, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yiddish is the Yiddish word for "Jewish", and comes from the German Jüdisch. The Joys of Yiddish by Leo Rosten gives no alternative spellings, so I conclude there is no "Yiddush". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots12:49, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As I suspected. Thanks, BB. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 18:17, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I found one Google hit for the spelling "Scheptzl Schnitzlputzl" (see under "subject.keywords") that appears to be somehow related to your man. I don't have the correct software to hear the linked audio file, unfortunately. This sounds like something that needs to be researched in old books and periodicals that are unlikely to be online; perhaps that spelling will help. (It would be helpful to know the real name behind that comic stage name, for instance.) Deor (talk) 20:11, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was able to listen. Thanks for that! It looks like "Scheptzl Schnitzlputzl" was one of Irving Jacobson's stage characters. The song, "Az men muzsh muzsh men" can be found on Yiddish Vaudeville anthologies, such as here. The artist is always credited as Irving Jacobson. "Schnitzlputzl" only occurs in Deor's link (which also credits Jacobson).
As for the name, Scheptzl corresponds to the first name Shebsel, Schepsel, etc. "Schnitzlputzl", apart from just being a funny name, can also be a term of endearment."Putzl" or "Putzerl" (more frequently heard in modern day Austria) means something like "Baby", in an endearing way. In a less endearing way, it can mean something else too. ---Sluzzelin talk 03:43, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the entry I linked, I also suspected that Schnitzlputzl may have been a persona adopted by Jacobson, but I couldn't find any confirmation in the online information about Jacobson, so I decided not to mention that. You're probably correct, though. Deor (talk) 12:03, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

April 13

Hercules and the Augean stables in film

What are some depictions of Hercules (or Heracles) cleaning the Augean stables in film? I am particular interested in color, live action films from 1985 or earlier.

I checked that neither Hercules (1958 film) nor Hercules Unchained contains this labor.

I recall seeing such a thing, but I cannot recall if was swords and sandals or Ray Harryhausen. JackSchmidt (talk) 01:53, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IGN Account

Hi, how can I delete my IGN account? There doesn't seem to be any FAQs or help on the site so I was thinking there's maybe been other users in the same situation. Can you even delete it or should I just leave it? Chevymontecarlo. 06:05, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They have a contact page. Help from them might come just as fast as an answer from one of us. And it's likely to be more complete and accurate. Dismas|(talk) 06:52, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Chevymontecarlo. 14:40, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Football player identification

Hi, I am trying to add a description to this photo. Can anyone help me with the year and the player's names? It looks like a World Cup because they have a familiar emblem on their arms, but I can't remember what World Cup it is. Can anyone help? Chevymontecarlo. 06:28, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like Sotirios Kyrgiakos on the ground, playing for Greece. Don't recognize the other player.--Michig (talk) 06:34, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The other player appears to be Etey Schechter (FIFA link). Compare with this image. From the game Greece - Israel on 1 April 2009? ---Sluzzelin talk 07:10, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I will add you information. Thanks. Chevymontecarlo. 14:40, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Federico Fellini

i heard Federico Fellini movies are whats bad is good good is bad ect i like movies like that. can someone suggest one of his movies for me to watch?

La Dolce Vita would be the one to start off with. --Richardrj talk email 13:00, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm particularly fond of I clowns. His segment of the anthology film Histoires extraordinaires (Spirits of the Dead) is also interesting, though you have to sit through the dreadful Roger Vadim/Jane Fonda segment to get to the Malle and Fellini segments. Deor (talk) 13:14, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]


which one of his movies has the bad guy as the good guy?

Who Want To Be A Millionaire odd question

A few minutes ago on TV was this question: Which is nearest to the equator: Mount Rushmore, the Suez Canal, the Gobi Desert, or Ayers Rock? And the man said it was.....Ayers Rock. Is that correct? 89.240.34.241 (talk) 19:57, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]