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This page is for users seeking advice on notability and whether or not a topic meets Wikipedia's criteria for its own article. Sources showing notability, and whether they meet Wikipedia's general inclusion criteria, will be examined here. Some topics have specific topic guidelines, which are listed below under "Subject-specific guidelines". To show notability, you should list the key evidence of reputable journals, independently published books, reputable news and media sources, widely reputed measures of recognition, and other reliable independent published sources, which show significant attention being paid by those independent sources to the subject of the proposed article. These are crucial and must be available to support an article, as it is a measure of how much the wider unconnected world has shown significant and likely enduring attention. Sections older than 31 days archived by MiszaBot II. (For help, see Wikipedia:Purge)
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Yellow dress of Reese Witherspoon

The subject of this article is mentioned in passing in a few sources but there's nothing that can be said to be substantial coverage. In my opinion the article is ripe for deletion but I'd like to get some second opinions before nominating it as it seems there's a handful of editors who are quite protective of this article for some reason. waggers (talk) 08:10, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Since Dr. Blofeld and I are the only two editors to have made substantial contributions to it, and a handful is more than one and less than six, I am mildly insulted that you would suggest that I would have ownership issues with it, as my only contributions were to expand, add sources, and remove a PROD tag that I didn't think applied any more. But I digress, as that's not what we're here for I suppose. Fact of the matter is two years after it was worn, InStyle wrote a paragraph about it in the 100 best dresses of the decade (where it earned the spot of number twelve), and five years after the dress was worn, an article in the New York Times included a paragraph about it. Given my limited knowledge of dresses (or how to get women out of them for that matter), I thought that with my additions the article stood well enough to not be deleted as "uncontroversial" (as that is what PROD is for). But what do I know, I may have ownership issues...--kelapstick^(bainuu) 08:35, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that all the editors involved have ownership issues - I was mainly thinking of the message at the top of User talk:Dr. Blofeld. I don't think one mention in a list and a solitary paragraph five years later cuts it as "substantial coverage" per the guideline. I can see this information sitting happily within other Wikipedia articles or lists, but the dress itself doesn't meet the notability criteria as far as I can see. But like you I'm no expert in this subject matter so perhaps there's some substantial coverage in a reliable source that I'm missing. waggers (talk) 12:58, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

This is a great example of an article topic needs to be nominated for merger, not deletion. Not sure which article it should be merged into (there are several good targets), but it would be better placed if discussed within another article. Blueboar (talk) 17:11, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

While a good suggestion, I don't know what the target would be, I wouldn't want to see an article about Dresses at the XX Golden Globes, lest we turn into Us Weeklypedia. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 22:30, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

My suggestion would be a broader 2007 in fashion article. waggers (talk) 09:49, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Bravo, Waggers... Excellent suggestion. Blueboar (talk) 12:27, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I'd question whether some of these red-carpet gowns actually do represent contemporary fashion. Perhaps Red carpet fashion in 2007 is more appropriate. Mabalu (talk) 16:55, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

I like that idea, broader, more encompassing (i.e. Golden Globes, Oscars, etc.) --kelapstick^(bainuu) 23:52, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

That makes a lot of sense to me. So where do we go from here? Is the next step to start {{merge}} tagging the relevant articles? waggers (talk) 14:09, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Do we really want a run of articles for red carpet fashion by year? Maybe by decade would be better to start with - say, Red carpet fashion in the 2000s/1990s/2010s. I also feel that these pages would see a lot of bumph added into them, so would need quite active monitoring and moderation, with all individual dresses needing to show reason for their ongoing noteworthiness. Otherwise it could become a long list of what EVERY person on a red carpet that year wore, and that would be overwhelming. Mabalu (talk) 14:20, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Feedback please? I know what I said above on 18 May 2012, but after working on this: User:Mabalu/Red carpet fashion in the 2000s I'm beginning to wonder if it wouldn't be better to have an article generally about the concept of "red carpet fashion" with the header and separate articles for each year (ie, Red carpet fashion in 2000, Red carpet fashion in 2001, despite what I said above. The ref list section alone is getting quite out of hand, even though I am trying to keep to overviews and not going into excess detail except about dresses that received more than the usual amount of coverage... Would really appreciate people's thoughts on this. Apologies if this is the wrong page, but I thought the discussion was relevant. Thanks so much. Mabalu (talk) 18:06, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

I think that's an excellent piece of work and would encourage you to move that into article space. My view on this matter is pretty simple: Yellow dress of Reese Witherspoon doesn't merit an article of its own. I'm open as to what we replace it with, but the status quo needs to be changed. I think [[Red carpet fashion in the [decade]]] probably is the best approach, as it allows the use of WP:SUMMARY STYLE to create articles on individual years or individual dresses should they merit it. WaggersTALK 08:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! I have created Red carpet fashion as a general overview, and done a couple of trial articles for 2000 and 2002. I was thinking of creating a template for red carpet fashion to replace the Academy Awards template too, which I have trialled here: User:Mabalu/Red carpet fashion template - although I want to create a few more "Red carpet fashion in (year)" articles before going live so it's not a total sea of redlinks. Mabalu (talk) 14:17, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

The Synapse, Oberlin College's science publication

The Synapse is the name of Oberlin College's science magazine established in 2011. Although not yet nearly as established as the Daily Illini, for instance, does it qualify for its own page. The page will of course grow with the development and additional publications of the magazine. The website, which is under construction, can be found here.

Flawrenc (talk)

Howdy, Flawrenc. I watched quite a few articles about new publications fail to survive an [[W::AfD|article for deletion]] discussion. I looked at the web site. A separate article isn't appropriate. Objections, in Wikipedia jargon, would be WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL, among others. For now, I recommend you edit the Oberlin College article, specifically the Publications and media section, to include information about The Synapse. Take care, DocTree (talk) 02:04, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Uncreated (yet) notability question

As a preemptive war, i recently met someone who has traveled across multiple continents climbing mountains as an "explorer", was featured in NJmagazine, and was wondering if hed be notable enough (yet) for WP. Hes also started a biz recently and has more details on his personal website (apparently not updated as yet sine hes just got back some less than 2 weeks ago from a long trip (family whathaveyou, i imagine)). But speaking at Rotary Club and Verizon (notable enough for WP...and not some student group at a community college), in addition to the other feats (mountain climbing and motivational speaker), could make him notable as an explorer? It shouldnt be too hard to make it more than a stub of an article.Lihaas (talk) 18:13, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

I would say "not yet". What you need are published sources that have commented on his explorations in some detail. Blueboar (talk) 18:38, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Wouldnt the NJ magaine count? (i added that after the original comment)

Also found something else + would thiscount too?Lihaas (talk) 18:39, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Let me rephrase... the reason I say "not yet" as opposed to "not notable" is that, so far, the sources that comment upon him and his explorations are all very local in scope (as were the speaking engagements). What I think you need are sources with a more national/international scope. Blueboar (talk) 18:48, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Ah, okey, thx.

Just came back to comment that the article wont be an orphanLihaas (talk) 18:52, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

national source?Lihaas (talk) 15:33, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

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Asfar lake

Asfar lake is a lake located in eastern Saudi Arabia. It has been the subject of a few environmental studies. Its birds have also made the news.

Would this geographic feature be considered notable enough for its own article?VR _talk 00:31, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Based on the comment above it would need internatiotional RS sources (whch the freelibrary is dubious), but the first seems okey. I would think it is worth the effort...how big is the lake and what is exceptional about it (ie- what notable birds...making sure its not an orphan aricle)? hopefully its not a pond.Lihaas (talk) 21:48, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

I agree that an Al Asfar lake article 'is worth the effort'. Most articles on a geographical feature will survive an Articles for Deletion discussion if notability is questioned. My Goggle search located proposed studies [1] related to the lake, some controversy about its use as a source for drinking water and for agriculture versus its preservation due to ecological concerns and concerns about polution. I found Saudi government requests for proposal to "rehabilitate" the lake. Based on my quick look, Al Asfar lake appears to be a notable geographical feature that is at least somewhat significant to the ecology of two continents. DocTree (talk) 14:54, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Power Rangers Megaforce

Power Rangers Megaforce currently redirects to Power Rangers. User:Ryulong is suppressing any attempt to start an article for this forthcoming TV series, saying that all we have so far is a press release. Surely that is a reliable source that proves it's notability? It's not like we're just assuming it's going to happen because the Sentai exists, it's been officially announced. There's even a logo out. Digifiend (talk) 22:18, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

A press release by the creators is not conducive enough to say something will affirmatively happen and be notable; this is NOT social media. Tag it on to Power Rangers for now, if need be, and if and when its in the making and released an article could be goodLihaas (talk) 17:37, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

It was unveiled at the International Licensing Expo, so there's more than just the press release. All the details are here: http://blog.samuraicast.com/rangercrew-interview-with-saban-brands-about-power-rangers-megaforce/ One of the blog posts even includes an interview with the production company, and there are a number of images. Digifiend (talk) 12:39, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

In all likelihood that won't be considered a legitimate source for the press release. But I'm sure this one would be: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/saban-brands-power-rangers-megaforce-to-premiere-on-nickelodeon-in-early-2013-2012-06-11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.77.75.227 (talk) 01:00, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

74.77.75.227, that is still a press release just posted on another website. Here are some independent reliable news sources that talk about Power Rangers Megaforce.[2][3][4] With that, I think Power Rangers Megaforce should have its own acticle. Powergate92Talk 01:35, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Saban Brands has confirmed that Power Rangers Megaforce will be airing in early 2013. There are several press releases, the logo, marketing teasers, and articles that have supported this fact. User:Ryulong is preventing actual promotion of the upcoming season and information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.132.78.83 (talk) 23:46, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Mother Fukker's

Mother Fukker's was a brand name of snack foods. I believe it was based in Pennsylvania and had its heyday in the 1970s and 1980s, but I could be wrong as that's strictly from faint memory. Google doesn't turn up much of anything. I'm pretty certain that in the pre-Internet age, it has been mentioned by whatever media outlets might have had the balls to print such a name in their pages. I figure this is a tough one, since the name alone would likely preclude widespread mention.RadioKAOS (talk) 00:07, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Well you would need at least some RS sources to mention its worth. Though i too would suspect the name may have generated controversy enoughLihaas (talk) 10:11, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

All I can think of was a mention in the "True Facts" section of National Lampoon. In one issue, the editor of "True Facts" offered a list of what NOT to submit, because he was tired of repeated submissions of such. Out of that list, all I can remember was "cartons of homo milk" and "packages of Mother Fukker's nuts." I very much doubt that any library near me keeps copies of National Lampoon issues amongst its collections, and if I have any issues of the magazine anymore, they've been buried in a box in storage for years. Therefore, I'm afraid that I'm not of help inasfar as non-web verification.RadioKAOS (talk) 21:15, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Club Chess in Greece... (again)

After the last time I asked for my opinions in this subject failed to produce any replies, I'm asking again.

Do you believe club chess in Greece is considered a notable enough subject? --Rigas • Talk • Deeds • 21:08, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

1. what does "club chess" mean?

2. do you ahve any RS sources that mention this (And not just primary sources)Lihaas (talk) 10:13, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Club chess is like any team sport: teams of different players face each other.

Numerous sources exist, but of course it all depends on the prestige of the competition. For example, the A' Division Championship which ended today is heavily sourced on many different chess sites. Lesser competitions have fewer sources. --Rigas • Talk • Deeds • 14:24, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

A Satyanarayana Shastri

Discover Lasting Happiness

Born on June 2, 1925 Prof A Satyanarayana Shastri left his Annamaya Kosa on January 16, 1940 in Bangalore. After his BSc in 1943 from Central College and MSc from Dharwar, he served Vijaya Collega as a lecturer and later as a Professor for 18 years in the Department of Chemistry. He is survived by his wife, three sons and four daughters. He has been the philosopher and guide to Vivekananda Yoga Anusandhana Samsthana and became the Chief Adviser of the Deemed University Vivekananda Yoga Mahavidyapeetham of VYTASA. He was also the president of Advaita Samsodhana Pratisthana chaired by Sri Arun Kumar.

Exploring Upanishads with a brilliant intellect and top scientist’s vision, Prof. Shastri became an intense sadhak par excellence initially to solve his own tensions and anxieties. His masterly exposition of Yoga Vasistha was fascinating to all his listeners.

His teachings on message of Upanishads and the concept of Dharma centred around Sukha Duhkha Pariksa embellished with practical examples of day to day problems of modern life, enchanted thousands of listeners. He provided vision to top scientists, engineers and doctors, transforming their lives towards inner search of silencing the mind for bliss.

His inner revelations in sadhana are condensed in the following proclamations repeated in all his: ‘Sukha is silence and deeper the prasamana, greater the happiness. Slowing of thoughts and expansion of mind are the key components of all yoga sadhana’. Energy Model was his discovery to explain the above feelings. Published: Yooga Sudha Vol XX No.3 March 2004

Speeches

A General Survey of Spiritual Study

• A General Survey of Spiritual Study Part 1
• A General Survey of Spiritual Study Part 2
• A General Survey of Spiritual Study Part 3
• A General Survey of Spiritual Study Part 4
• A General Survey of Spiritual Study Part 5
• A General Survey of Spiritual Study Part 6
• A General Survey of Spiritual Study Part 7
• A General Survey of Spiritual Study Part 8
• A General Survey of Spiritual Study Part 9
• A General Survey of Spiritual Study Part 10

Response

Firstly, this is not a place to post an article to create, thats what AFC is for. At any rate, a bunch of youtube videos are guaranteed not to make this chap notable. There are self-help gurus all over.Lihaas (talk) 10:18, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

TAR1 gene

Hi there, I am new to editing Wikipedia. I am considering making a page for a gene that I am working on called TAR1, found on chromosome XII, in Saccharomyces cerevisiae. TAR1 is unique for it is a protein coding gene that runs anti-sense to a non-coding, structural RNA (the 25s rRNA). There is a modest scientific literature for this gene, which is hypothesized to be an evolutionary response to mitigate the drive of selfish, dysfunctional (hypersuppresive) mitochondria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sauropterygia (talk • contribs) 20:21, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

It sounds notable but i would ask what RS sources are there to indicate the research into (and to indicate the statement is not OR). Since your working on it, and to maintain AGF, I would also ask you to read about WP:COI so someone doesnt accuse you of popularising your personal paper. (for self-interest alone)Lihaas (talk) 10:19, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

John DePetro

I'm not sure I'm doing this right, since this is the first article I've nomed for deletion. I marked the article for possible deletion and here's why:

The subject is a minor individual, and the article is full of excessive detail, so excessive and irrelevant and puffy that I suspect it was written by the subject or someone associated with him. Trudyjh (talk) 02:31, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I agree with your nomination. It would also be fitting that you give the person a COI flag. Oxfordwang (talk) 03:19, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Unsourced with a couple of ELs to local sources, i think its totally delete worthy. Start a deletion disscusionLihaas (talk) 10:22, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

You didn't actually nominate them for deletion; you just tagged them for notability. Thousands of articles have this tag, and some linger for years. However, it's one way of giving people a chance to improve the article before actually nominating it for deletion. --KarlB (talk) 19:08, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

How do I actually nominate this for deletion? I grubbed around and could not find out how. What is "giving the person a COI flag"? Thanks. Trudyjh (talk) 14:27, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Schuf Fetterolf

I deleted the article on this as it was a copyright violation. The subject is an international industrial valve design and manufacture company established over 100 years ago, which owns a number of patents. On that basis it sounds notable, but a quick Google search didn't bring up much other than primary sources. WaggersTALK 08:15, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Liam Payne

| name = Liam Payne | image = File:230459 10150187302517751 225963747750 7319379 6475420 n | dateofbirth = 29 August 1993 | cityofbirth = Wolverhampton, West Midlands | countryofbirth = England | profession = singer | band which is part of = One Direction

Liam Payne

Liam James Payne,[139] born 29 August 1993 (age 18), is from Wolverhampton, West Midlands, England. Born three weeks early to mother Karen and father Geoff,[140] he has two older sisters, Ruth and Nicola.[113] Until the age of four, Payne had regular tests done in hospital as doctors noticed one of his kidneys was scarred and dysfunctional. To help cope with the pain, he had 32 injections in his arm in the morning and evening as a child. Regarding his one functional kidney, Payne said "I have to be careful not to drink too much, even water, and I have to keep myself as healthy as possible."[141] Growing up, his mother would juggle shifts as a nursery nurse to accompany him on all his auditions.[110] As a student, Payne was heavily involved in sports, primarily trying out for various school teams, he eventually found his place on the cross country running team, coming first "From then on I was training all the time and getting up at 6am to run for miles. At the age of 12 they put me in the school's under-18s team."[125] Payne was bullied in secondary school and took up boxing lessons at the age of twelve.[125][142] He was a music technology student at City of Wolverhampton College.[143] Before The X Factor, Payne had once performed in front of a 26,000 crowd at a Wolverhampton Wanderers' football match.[6][7] Payne first auditioned in 2008 to The X Factor's fifth series when he was fourteen. He made it to the judges' houses, but Cowell thought he was not ready for the competition and asked him to come back in two years. Payne cites Justin Timberlake as one of his biggest influences. He also says he draws inspiration from Take That member Gary Barlow when performing.[144] He is currently in a relationship with dancer Danielle Peazer.[145] They met on The X Factor in 2010 and have been in a relationship ever since. The backing dancer for The Saturdays and Jessie J has received death threats and other forms of cyber bullying on social networking website Twitter, due to her relationship with Payne.[146][147][148]

Name: Liam James Payne Age: 18 DOB: 29/08/93 Star Sign: Virgo Home Town: Wolverhampton Favourite Film: All three of the Toy Story movies Celeb Crush: Leona Lewis Man Crush: Michael McIntyre Bet you didn’t know: He only has one kidney. Turn-ons: Knee socks, PDAs, giggling, squealing and tattoos. Turn-offs: Burping, farting, swearing, fake tan and bling.

Liam is a loyal and faithful boyfriend. On a date he would wear jeans and a T-shirt. His perfect girl would have to be cheeky but quiet and a bit shy as well. He likes happy, smiley girls. He also likes mousy brown haired girls. Apparently, he has been grabbed on his crotch a couple of times. If he sees you cry, he will probably go out with you. He owns a pain of pink hair straighteners. He’s the daddy of the group.1\5 of One Direction!

notablelity

What does notabilty have to do with theTrusted website? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.230.8.180 (talk) 19:47, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Can you please re-word that since the current question does not make sense?--174.93.167.177 (talk) 02:08, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

notablelity

Why is notabilty important? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.230.8.180 (talk) 19:50, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

The reason it that we would be flooded with articles if we did not have that standard.--174.93.167.177 (talk) 02:07, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Notability Policies and Guidelines

• Notice - There are ongoing AfDs at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Czech Americans and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Irish Americans where the issue of WP:NOTDIR and possible application to other Guidelines is under discussion. Additional community discussion is requested. Disclaimer: I am the editor who submitted these AfDs. --Tgeairn (talk) 17:34, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

WP:NOTNEWS or not?

I want to write an article about "Keep 32," which is the name of a chemical developed over the past seven years that is purported to be able to kill Streptococcus mutans in about 60 seconds and thus has the potential to reduce the formation of cavities (if the claims end up being true this could very well revolutionize dentistry). The problem is that the main coverage is from the last few days, though the coverage is substantial. Currently the researchers are attempting to get funding for human trails. Is it too early to write about this? Sædon^talk 05:34, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Depends on the sources. If it's being extensively discussed in peer-reviewed publications, go for it. However, if your depending on reports from the popular or popular scientific press that are problaby just rehashes of promotional material or hype, then it's too soon. Be very wary of scientists who run to the popular press to publicise their ideas. We learned a lot form Pons and Fleischman. And, as always, be wary of sensationalistic claims like "revolutionize the practice of dentistry". There are a lot of one-day-wonders and flashes-in-the-pan in this type of research. For a good example, read the last paragraph of the Huffington Post article on your compound: [[5]]. I'd wait until an actual product is released for sale and becomes notable, or until enough is published in the peer-reviewed literature about the product than just primary reports from the discoverers. Good luck! Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 06:40, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks DV. I'm going to try and get in contact with the researchers to get the chemical name and find out whether they've published anything before I write the article of course. I was asking here mostly because the article would be based on primary literature in regards to the chemical, and news sites with recent coverage to demonstrate notability. As an aside, when I run across a science article on the huffington post I generally quickly click a link to somewhere else, hypertension and all :). Sædon^talk 07:01, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Project XJ7

Berief Summary

Project XJ7 aka "Elizabeth Lynn Van De Walle" is a United States Air Force top secret mission. Walle as it has been come to be known by is a genetically enhanced robotic humanoid, created by the USAF in order to counter act the presence of Cyborg DS 12 aka "Dana Sellers". Cyborg DS 12 was sent to earth from the future by an evil cooporation LACA. LACA headed by evil genius Lanodrey Abotken, is formed as a poorly thought up plan to take over the world. After many years of war between Project XJ7 and Cyborg DS 12, Project XJ7 disabled Cyborg DS 12 and the USAF was able you program a virtual life into her memory drive.

Rise of LACA and Lanodrey Abotken

Lanodrey Abotken was born in South Africa on November 4, 1991, and was raised in a Houston, Texas in a suburb named Missouri City. (Side bar many people think that Mo city as it is call is not part of Houston when it is in fact most definitely part of Houston, Jeff) Lanodrey did very well in school and got a full ride to Baylor University. Well on his way to becoming a world famous Doctor, however Lanodrey began making friends with the wrong crowd, a group known as the A-Team( really?, so Unoriginal, lame). To keep the identity of these me secret lets just name them

• The leader Jody A. the handsome and best all around member
• Laday A. The smartest and coolest of the group
• Alex Nowaya the most hipster and "chill" whatever that is member
• Austin Doornail the best athlete and most nice member( if that means anything in an evil organization)
• Jeffery Afish the muscle and most wrong member — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cla312 (talk • contribs) 03:50, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

The Black Album/Come On Feel the Dandy Warhols

Tried twice to delete this as I don't believe it can be established as notable. I would like an expert opinion on what to do if possible. LF (talk) 00:45, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Mark_Erelli

Hi, I'm new but have been editing a little bit under an IP for a couple of years, though sporatically. I've found this article in the title after working on another one. Well, I like to practice researching and learning new things, and Wikipedia is great for that, so I finally created an account. :) Anyways, I found this 'board' after looking for some type template to add to the Mark Erelli article that could help draw attention, but it seemed a lot more involved and complicated so I thought I'd take it here for fear of doing the wrong thing..like "nominating it for deletion" ACK! I don't feel comfortable going that far, and don't really have a lot of time to work Wikipedia in that capactiy. Just little edits, adding refs, etc. I did read the requirements for BLP, but it didn't really help, so not sure if this person is notable or not. I did do a search of his name with Google, but what comes up are mainly self-published links, such as Facebook, MySpace, AllMusic, YouTube, etcs and only local references. Although I didn't go past the first page, and don't have time to really look so here I am, and here he is. I would like any feedback about this and any other issue anyone may find with any edits I've made so far. Thank you. RupJana (talk) 01:48, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Red links justified because notability is undetermined?

The article List of wineries, breweries, and distilleries in New Jersey is mostly red links. WP:REDNOT recommends against linking to topics that are unlikely to be created but because we cannot determine which are notable and which are not, some editors think the links are justified because articles may be added for them some day even though it's understood that there are many that will never have an article. I welcome comments. Jojalozzo 17:11, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Mathew Chuk

This article has had three deletion discussions (see first, second and third) all resulting in a keep decision - however I feel that due to the proximity of the discussions to events taking place in the article, reviewing the article now, four years on, may be a good option.

It appears that Chuk's election at the end of 2006, and the broader Wikipedia article on him, is less notable than claimed in the deletion discussions - and a redirect to the relevant section of the NUS page would suffice. The most relevant area for the article to meet notability is WP:POLITICIAN.

A similar case occurred with the article on Felix Eldridge - kept after a deletion discussion in 2006, before being deleted following a 2010 discussion.

Australian Matt (talk) 04:31, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Some questions

Hello. I'm creating a new article (userspace draft currently) and I met a question, hopefully someone can answer. The article is about a free, online web service created by an organization. Here is the question:

1. Does it violates copyright if I upload a screenshot of a website? (Not official screenshot given by the web service, just a mere screenshot I captured with my software)

Thanks!Greek Fellows (talk) 08:33, 21 July 2012 (UTC)