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::*Geez. What is with video game editors these days? Trying to be cool and upstage Gibraltar? The nerve. [[User talk:GamerPro64|<font color="red">GamerPro64</font>]] 18:22, 6 August 2013 (UTC) |
::*Geez. What is with video game editors these days? Trying to be cool and upstage Gibraltar? The nerve. [[User talk:GamerPro64|<font color="red">GamerPro64</font>]] 18:22, 6 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:::*I've not been that active on Wikipedia of late, so haven't seen the other hooks. But the current hook, "...that it costs nearly US$170 to buy all three versions of the iOS video game The Idolmaster Shiny Festa, and that it would be cheaper to import the PlayStation Portable version?" is lame and should not have been greenlit. Import it where? Does that include taxes? Either way, it's very US-centric. The game was the first in the series to be localised in English, and the hook decides to focus on some pricing complaint. - [[User:Hahnchen|hahnch]][[User:Hahnchen/E|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Hahnchen|n]] 01:36, 7 August 2013 (UTC) |
:::*I've not been that active on Wikipedia of late, so haven't seen the other hooks. But the current hook, "...that it costs nearly US$170 to buy all three versions of the iOS video game The Idolmaster Shiny Festa, and that it would be cheaper to import the PlayStation Portable version?" is lame and should not have been greenlit. Import it where? Does that include taxes? Either way, it's very US-centric. The game was the first in the series to be localised in English, and the hook decides to focus on some pricing complaint. - [[User:Hahnchen|hahnch]][[User:Hahnchen/E|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Hahnchen|n]] 01:36, 7 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:::: And is also approaching subculture insider lingo. The only people who are even going to immediately understand the relevance of that information, or care, will be hardcore gamers. It's like having a DYK blurb on advanced mathematics and assuming the reader knows what a modular form or a quarternion is. [[Special:Contributions/72.28.82.250|72.28.82.250]] ([[User talk:72.28.82.250|talk]]) 19:16, 7 August 2013 (UTC) |
::::: And is also approaching subculture insider lingo. The only people who are even going to immediately understand the relevance of that information, or care, will be hardcore gamers. It's like having a DYK blurb on advanced mathematics and assuming the reader knows what a modular form or a quarternion is. [[Special:Contributions/72.28.82.250|72.28.82.250]] ([[User talk:72.28.82.250|talk]]) 19:16, 7 August 2013 (UTC) |
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Who picks the image of the DYK box?
I don't want to criticise anyone, but I find it strange that an image of a US post office has been chosen to be diplayed in the DYK box, whilst at Ponte Vella, a much more impressive picture could have be found? That choice would have illustrated the DYK fact about the "steepness" of the bridge quite nicely.--FoxyOrange (talk) 21:18, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
- I suggest you ask at WT:DYK. Modest Genius talk 21:26, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
- It's a little arbitrary, to be honest. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:09, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
- Adam is correct that the hook selected for the image slot is somewhat arbitrary and the person assembling the DYK has a fair amount of discretion. As the person who assembled the DYK set in question, I can tell you it was differences in the articles that was the primary determining factor. I tend to favor placing hooks for larger/better developed articles into the highly desired image slot on the theory that the extra work needed to create such articles should be rewarded. A quick and dirty metric for seeing the difference between that articles in question is comparing the size of each article's readable text (article size after things such as infoboxes, categories, images, and references are removed). The bridge article contains 1559 characters of readable prose, not much more the the minimum of 1500 required by DYK. The post office article in comparison contains 10973 characters of readable prose (more than 7x the size of the bridge article). A secondary factor is the bridge article was created by members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Rosblofnari. Members of this group tends to produce a fairly large number of DYK nominations with large/well developed articles and thus receives a fairly large number of DYK image slots (see the 00:00 31 July 2013 (UTC) update for the most recent example). As the group is regularly receiving images slots, I also try to "share the wealth" with other DYK nominators by more actively placing the group's smaller articles into non-image slots. --Allen3 talk 23:16, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for the comprehensive explanation, which I very much appreciate.--FoxyOrange (talk) 18:06, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting explanation. Good to know. Awien (talk) 12:09, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for the comprehensive explanation, which I very much appreciate.--FoxyOrange (talk) 18:06, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- Adam is correct that the hook selected for the image slot is somewhat arbitrary and the person assembling the DYK has a fair amount of discretion. As the person who assembled the DYK set in question, I can tell you it was differences in the articles that was the primary determining factor. I tend to favor placing hooks for larger/better developed articles into the highly desired image slot on the theory that the extra work needed to create such articles should be rewarded. A quick and dirty metric for seeing the difference between that articles in question is comparing the size of each article's readable text (article size after things such as infoboxes, categories, images, and references are removed). The bridge article contains 1559 characters of readable prose, not much more the the minimum of 1500 required by DYK. The post office article in comparison contains 10973 characters of readable prose (more than 7x the size of the bridge article). A secondary factor is the bridge article was created by members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Rosblofnari. Members of this group tends to produce a fairly large number of DYK nominations with large/well developed articles and thus receives a fairly large number of DYK image slots (see the 00:00 31 July 2013 (UTC) update for the most recent example). As the group is regularly receiving images slots, I also try to "share the wealth" with other DYK nominators by more actively placing the group's smaller articles into non-image slots. --Allen3 talk 23:16, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
- It's a little arbitrary, to be honest. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:09, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Doctor Who
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I love the show as much as the next guy, but I'm not really sure that anything to do with it can be significant enough to get into ITN. It's not really up there on my list of significant events on the world stage. 75.156.68.21 (talk) 01:18, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Join the "discussion" at WP:ITN/C — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:20, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
So one moment I look, the story is up on the front page. The next, it's gone. The next, it's back again, and so forth. What a huge embarrassment this is for Wikipedia! Some of the most unprofessional display I have ever seen. Either the "in the news" needs to be scrapped completely for its lack of coordination, or some admins need to have their bits removed.128.227.67.108 (talk) 12:31, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Well, there's a discussion at WP:AN. But I suspect you already knew that. Pedro : Chat 12:36, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Just to make it abdundently obvious, the use of scare quotes in "discussion" above by Crisco 1492 was entirely apt. That was not so much a discussion, as a stream of lies, unfounded personal opinions, and general BS. The section clearly has absolutely nothing to do with what's "in The News", but neither is there any appreciable clue on display of what it's for. It seems you can just turn up there and say whatever you like, and someway, somehow, it gets listened too. Up to a point, because Jusdafax hates Doctor Who so much he declared it closed himself and demanded everyone should just move on, because apparently it's all too tiring for the Wikipedia peeps to deal in actual facts. Much easier just to engage in that special brand of nonsense, and then sweep it under the carpet, letting people like Jusdafax decide what is and isn't "deeply unencyclopedic and an embarrassment", whether he can prove that or not. Oh, and if you complain about it, it just gets censored. Makes Zimbabwe look like the model country, eh.DW meter (talk) 12:58, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
"The Idolmaster"?
So, is The Idolmaster going to be the next Gibraltar/Lugo? I honestly would have never guessed that there was enough of an audience to have three separate DYKs in less than a week... Tupin (talk) 04:58, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Never underestimate the collective power of rapid Japanophiles. They know no compromise. 75.156.68.21 (talk) 05:03, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Neither do rabid ones, but hopefully they take prisoners. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:08, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Geez. What is with video game editors these days? Trying to be cool and upstage Gibraltar? The nerve. GamerPro64 18:22, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- I've not been that active on Wikipedia of late, so haven't seen the other hooks. But the current hook, "...that it costs nearly US$170 to buy all three versions of the iOS video game The Idolmaster Shiny Festa, and that it would be cheaper to import the PlayStation Portable version?" is lame and should not have been greenlit. Import it where? Does that include taxes? Either way, it's very US-centric. The game was the first in the series to be localised in English, and the hook decides to focus on some pricing complaint. - hahnchen 01:36, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
- And is also approaching subculture insider lingo. The only people who are even going to immediately understand the relevance of that information, or care, will be hardcore gamers. It's like having a DYK blurb on advanced mathematics and assuming the reader knows what a modular form or a quarternion is. 72.28.82.250 (talk) 19:16, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
1st fem. coast to coast
Love the little feature on Alice Huyler Ramsey featured in OTD. What a cool story! (Is there a book about it?) This is the sort of thing WP can do well. Great choice. Sca (talk) 13:42, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Boden Professor of Sanskrit election, 1860
What an absolutely great article! Such an apparently trivial, irrelevant topic as an election for an obscure university chair a hundred and fifty years ago - and it turns out to be an amazing window into a bygone time and place, bringing it to life as history all too often fails to do. One of the best ever. Awien (talk) 16:27, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
- I agree! 72.28.82.250 (talk) 18:08, 7 August 2013 (UTC)