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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:26, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revera (event)

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Unsourced with no notability per GNG or EVENT. Google search returned no reliable independent coverage on the event. Promotional tone with no denotable notability. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 16:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: I couldn't find anything about it on the web except for Facebook posts. This topic doesn't seem notable at all; it appears to be promotional and fails to meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline (WP:GNG). Grabup (talk) 16:14, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: it appears to be promotional, fails WP:GNG or WP:N(E) ~~User:Spworld2 (talk) 2:14, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete. No sources on the page and this page seems like promotion of an event held by student union of a college. WP:PROMO. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 15:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No reliable sources are provided, event do look like some promotion. Hookiq (talk) 15:09, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete lacks sources fails WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 23:37, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arkadia Joint Lyceum

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Local high school in Finland fails WP:GNG and WP:NSCHOOL. All available significant coverage is from official websites. Media coverage exists, but it is either in local news providing list-style coverage of high school graduates and test scores, or it is routine coverage in news related to school openings and closings. One news story appears to constitute significant coverage, but one is not enough to clear the hurdle. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:08, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 22:43, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Compugoal College

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It exists but I don't think it meets WP:ORG / WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 19:41, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Shivaji University as an AtD. Given limited participation after one relist, this is in effect a 'soft' redirect. Daniel (talk) 03:24, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shri Raosaheb Ramrao Patil Mahavidyalaya

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability. College affiliated with a university. I'm normally pretty lenient regarding GNG sourcing for schools but this one has zero independent sources much less GNG sources. And I couldn't find any. North8000 (talk) 18:50, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to Lin Chih-chien. Owen× ☎ 23:55, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lin Zhijian's paper plagiarism case

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I've already suggested what could happen here (WP:BLAR) but haven't gotten a bite yet; meanwhile I'm a bit worried about potential BLP issues here. Many of the sources are very low quality, and the article's level of detail seems idiosyncratic, unencyclopedic, and more than a little POV if treatment of plagiarism by other public figures in articles is anything to go by. I feel I have little choice than to bring it to AfD, I'm not even sure what else needs to be said about the plagiarism on Lin's own article. Remsense诉 06:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Lin Chih-chien for all the reasons you give. Policies and guidelines may include WP:SUSTAINED and WP:POVFORK. As you say there's not a lot more to be said on Lin's article, although that section of his article could use a bit of editing. Oblivy (talk) 07:13, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as per User:Oblivy. --Wish for Good (talk) 04:15, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep. Cleanup is needed (including mispelling of Chih-chien as Zhijian), but there are arguably RS covering this incident, so it seems to pass WP:GNG as a stand-alone topic from the subject's biography. (Most sources are in Chinese, unfortunately, but for example Taipei Times covered this in multiple dedicated articles: [1], [2], [3] - note are cited, in our article which unfortunately relies solely on Chinese sources, likely due to being a translation from Chinese Wikipedia). We have many similar articles, see Category:Plagiarism controversies. What we need is a review of sources by someone familiar with Chinese (Taiwanese) outlets, in terms of which are reliable. PS. The incident is mentioned in at least one academic, English article: Liao, D. C. (2023). " Party Turnover" on the Move? Assessing and Forecasting the Dynamics of Taiwan's Politics after the 2022 Local Elections. American Journal of Chinese Studies, 30(1). (I can't link it due to EBSCO being link unfriendly and paywalled, but it comes up in Google Scholar query here. --Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here 04:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I haven't really disputed that the subject passes WP:GNG, but could you articulate why the subject should have its own article and isn't best treated in a section of Lin Chih-chien per WP:PAGEDECIDE? Notability is not the only criterion for whether a page should exist. Remsense诉 07:07, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Page size and WP:DUE (particularly in BLP context) are all relevant considerations. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It is a tad troubling if the best solution is to have a very underdeveloped base BLP and a very well-developed article about an exclusively negative aspect of that BLP. I do not think this is in keeping with the spirit of NPOV if we let the abstraction of a separation in pages result in the total content of material covering a BLP be totally lopsided like this. See the examples at WP:SPINOFF. Remsense诉 06:03, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I tend to agree with @Remsense except I don't agree it's a particularly "well-developed article", just a long one. I think any merge would have to cut it down quite a bit. Lin's article is relatively short at about 13K and this one is about 50K. Even if all of the text was ported over (something I'd 100% oppose for WP:DUE reasons) it still wouldn't be beyond page size guidelines.
    Note that the plagiarism article is entirely about Lin, not about some larger issue of which this incident was emblematic. There's a sentence fragment about strengthened anti-plagiarism measures at the school, and a weak attempt to blame the DPP's overall showing on him. The latter is only supported by a source that regurgitates a press conference in which he apologized. Nothing is gained by separating the two. Oblivy (talk) 06:28, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge due to NPOV concerns and because the article doesn't cover anything that could not be discussed in the main article on the subject. Jake Wartenberg (talk) 14:30, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Delta State Statesmen and Lady Statesmen#Football. as a viable ATD. History is preserved if folks want to merge Star Mississippi 01:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Delta State Statesmen in the NFL draft

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No evidence that this grouping meets WP:NLIST, the article is just a straight copy of the single database source. Can at most be merged to Delta State Statesmen and Lady Statesmen#Football if this is deemed of some importance after all. As can be seen at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 420#DraftHistory.com, there are concerns about the source anyway, so new creations based on this source should probably be stopped. Fram (talk) 08:47, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep There are multiple sources in regards to Delta State football players being drafted ([4], [5], [6]), though I agree that a lot of the lists should be expanded upon (which myself and a lot of others are very much trying to work on), and turned into FL's. In regards to this list, I would not be completely opposed to a merge/redirect, but for now I just view it as a Stub. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 17:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What's required for list notability is reliable secondary sources doscussing the grouping, not the members of the group. 4.37.252.50 (talk) 22:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Subject does not meet the WP:LISTN due to a lack of secondary sources. The sources cited here along with the one in the article are all primary. Let'srun (talk) 00:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. LISTN asks that "Delta State Statesmen in the NFL draft" be discussed significantly in IRS as a topic in itself; separate sources on individual Statesmen in the draft are not sufficient. JoelleJay (talk) 05:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 03:47, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PES PU College, Mandya

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The references do not indicate that the subject passes the general notability guideline or the notability guideline for organizations, and a quick search for sources turned up nothing to disprove that. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 03:47, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MPM Govt High School, Adavimallanakeri

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This is a contested draftification. The references do not indicate that the subject passes the general notability guideline or the notability guideline for organizations, and a quick search for sources turned up nothing to disprove that. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:36, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: None of the sources meet WP:SIGCOV, and the single sentence of article barely makes grammatical sense. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 06:41, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - No sources found (outside the ones provided by the article). No prejudice towards a redirect to Advimallanakeri as well. Sohom (talk) 19:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: No reliable sources have been found to establish the notability of this government school. Generally, there is limited reporting on government schools in India, except in some special cases. Grabup (talk) 08:16, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Again, this page too has poor sources and per nom, page does not satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. RangersRus (talk) 14:07, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 06:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kitulu Day Secondary School

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Non-notable institution and un-sourced article, a search returns nothing. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. Allan Nonymous (talk) 14:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 07:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Temoc

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Was turned into a redirect due to having no independent sources before I brought it back. I think this does deserve some discussion because there are a lot of mascot pages that are sourced similarly to Temoc. Okmrman (talk) 21:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: If this was changed to a Redirect, what would the target article be?
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  • Comment perhaps the article could be broadened to be about "student life" in general? A lot of the article is about topics only tangentially related to the athletic mascot. Texas–Dallas Comets is the only plausible merge (or redirect) target I see, none of this material needs to be in the main university article. Walsh90210 (talk) 16:25, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Looking for more opinions. We have a possible Redirect target to be Texas–Dallas Comets but not much consensus for it. I almost feel like this could be closed procedurally as the nominator was indfinitely blocked for their single-minded deletion campaign in AFDLand.
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The result was redirect‎ to Srimanta Sankaradeva University of Health Sciences. Only one !vote to keep, favoring the sources, but no one concurs. Even though more say to delete, no argument is solidly backed up, discussion is on the light side, and consensus is not strong, so go with the suggested redirect as the least destructive option. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 07:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Government Ayurvedic College, Guwahati

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Tried to improve the article but I failed to improve it per WP:SNG as well as others. Twinkle1990 (talk) 16:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There are plenty of reliable sources and qualifies for WP:GNG. It have both WP: PRIMARY and WP: SECONDARY sources mentioned as references. It also has historical importance as it is first and only Ayurvedic College in North East India region. -AjayDas (talk) 08:30, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was also not in favor to delete it. But I couldn't find sufficient references to establish the WP:GNG. If you can demonstrate the notability with sourcing, please do it. Otherwise, just a! vote and " it is first and only Ayurvedic College in North East India region." is not helping it anyhow.
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  • Delete. This page has poor sources and it does not satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. RangersRus (talk) 14:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Srimanta Sankaradeva University of Health Sciences to which it is affiliated. Founded in 1948 it is 75 years atleast clearly a search term.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:25, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: As per my check, I found nothing that can be called in-depth coverage. The subject fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:NSCHOOL. It requires in-depth coverage from multiple independent reliable sources to establish notability. GrabUp - Talk 08:47, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. I don't think a 3rd relisting would lead to a consensus. There is a basic difference of opinion here among well-intentioned editors on the quality of available sources and standards for notability that need to be met. Of course, those editors interested in pursuing a Redirect option can start a discussion on the article talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 03:07, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cristo Rey San Diego High School

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Fails GNG and NCORP. Sources in article and found in BEFORE fail WP:SIRS, nothing addressing the subject - the San Diego campus - directly and indepth. Article is a unneeded CFORK of Cristo Rey Network, no objection to a redirect.  // Timothy :: talk  17:19, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Redirect. Per WP:ORGCRIT, local units of larger organizations need to show coverage of the sub-unit beyond the local area. All reliable, secondary sources cited here are local to San Diego. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:28, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and redirect Redirect to Cristo Rey Network. No sources found outside of non-independent or non-local media that meet SIGCOV requirements. ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:32, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Cristo Rey Network. Not independently notable. It is already listed at the target, and there is not really anything that needs merging. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:10, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep. See WP:NSCHOOL. WP:ORG specifically says in the first paragraph, The scope of this guideline covers all groups of people organized together for a purpose with the exception of non-profit educational institutions, (italics mine) religions or sects, and sports teams. The appropriate guideline is thus not WP:ORGCRIT, but WP:SIGCOV, which says "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. Non-local sources are not required for GNG, and this article has 3 RS from local television news (CBS8 and 2 from ABC 10 News San Diego KGTV), as well as San Diego Entertainer Magazine and San Diego Business Journal, which are independent of the subject, as defined in SIGCOV. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 17:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Firstly, yes you are correct. A GNG pass is sufficient (SIGCOV is part of that but independent reliable secondary sources are still required - I think you address that though). My problem with the sources cited so far, however, is that these are all local, and describing the new school for what it has set up to be, and the way it is funded. There is, however, a case that there is something innovative (if not revolutionary) about this school, and that this will attract notice. What would clinch it for me is some national attention, or some attention in something other than a news report. I note that there is, in fact, only one ABC 10 News San Diego KGTV source, but even if there were more, they would all be treated as one for purposes of GNG. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 10:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    National attention (or even a non-local source) is NOT a requirement of SIGCOV. That's the difference between the NORG requirement and GNG. Non-profit schools can meet the notability requirement with either NORG or GNG or both. This one meets GNG.
    I also found and added one additional source announcing a full-ride scholarship opportunity from the University of San Diego. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 11:35, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    An announcement of a scholarship is a primary source. Primary sources do not count towards GNG. Also the ABC 10 report is clearly not independent. The writer is a staff writer, but it is based entirely on an interview with the head, and ends with a fundraiser. It also has a questionable claim in it. How can someone be 300% below the poverty line? But I suppose bad maths is not an issue. The writer has a declared interest in faith based schools. The CBS8 source also has primary news/independence issues - it is a piece that is bylined "Cristo Rey San Diego High needs more corporate sponsors for work study program." It appears to be predicated on that basis. I do not see how any of this crosses the GNG threshold. If we have no national sources, local sources need to be in depth and to provide sufficient information to write an article. These sources do not. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:01, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    GNG is a red herring in this thread. In response to @Grand'mere Eugene's comment that this would pass GNG with local sources, WP:NORG supersedes GNG (this is very clear at WP:ORGCRIT). And under WP:BRANCH, a local unit of a national org requires coverage in sources outside of the local area to be considered notable. The only notability this local school has is tied to the unique model of its network, which is why a redirect is best. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:05, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment WP:NSCHOOL is a subsection of Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) under the section, "Alternate criteria for specific types of organizations" that specifies, All universities, colleges and schools, including high schools, middle schools, primary (elementary) schools, and schools that only provide a support to mainstream education must either satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations (i.e., this page), the general notability guideline, or both. Either NORG, or GNG, or both. GNG is thus not a "red herring", but one of the ways schools may satisfy WP's notability requirement. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 05:29, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Passes GNG. See, for example: this. Carrite (talk) 02:36, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That is the CBS8 source considered above. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:50, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep the CBS8 and SDEntertainer sources are sufficient for GNG; the arguments that this is insufficient because this is a school affiliated with a national organization are unpersuasive. Walsh90210 (talk) 03:15, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Welcome to Wikipedia. Please note that this is not all that the discussion says is wrong with these two local news sources. Sources must be multiple, with significant coverage, independent of the subject, in reliable secondary sources. As above, these are not independent, aspects of them are primary sources, coverage of the school itself is limited and we are still short of multiple. Reliability has not been assessed. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:43, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I dispute your definition of "independent". Just because a TV station interviews somebody with the school doesn't mean it's not independent. And the "byline" you claim earlier is actually part of the headline. Walsh90210 (talk) 16:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, the headline. So the article is not independent. Likewise I said rather more than just that the article was entirely off an interview with the head. The fact it ends with a fundraiser is also pertinent, and that is not the only problem identified with that source. Now you have made 100 edits to Wikipedia in your 3 days here, and nearly half of these are to AfD or RfD. You are very welcome to the discussion, but might I suggest there may be a little more to the evaluation of sources then you may yet be aware of. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:44, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you saying that a CBS station isn't "independent" of a private school because the headline mentions the name of the school? I agree the source isn't perfect, but claims that CBS isn't "independent" of this school make me dismiss everything you say. Walsh90210 (talk) 21:39, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Clearly I didn't say that. The concern is that the headline makes quite clear that this local news article is predicated on a call for local businesses to act as sponsors for their local school. "... needs more corporate sponsors for work study program." Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:21, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment— I added another source from ProQuest, which is accessible via Wikipedia Library. To access this source, login to Wikimedia, then login to WP Library before clicking the ProQuest 2550545515 id link.
— Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 15:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewing this source, it is another local news source. "The San Diego Business Journal (SDBJ) is a weekly newspaper in San Diego, California covering local business news." - San Diego Business Journal. It is written by the paper's editor (Jay Harn), and is not clearly predicated on a funding drive. The coverage again only talks about the funding model. We really aren't getting much to say about the school beyond the funding model, and if that model were so significant, there ought to be national coverage. As a news source, reporting is a primary source, and sources should be secondary. I still believe that if the funding model itself were notable, a national news source would clinch it. Otherwise, for purely local coverage, more depth is needed about the school itself, such that an article about the school can be written. I will say I am not far from a keep here - I just don't think local reports about the funding model are enough on their own. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:34, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Lubao#Notable schools and colleges. Liz Read! Talk! 23:00, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lubao Institute

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Fails WP:NORG/WP:NSCHOOL. found no independent sigcov online. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 22:23, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 03:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dastak Welfare and Development Organization

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I don't see this Pakistani NGO passing the WP:NCORP. Fails WP:GNG as well. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 19:25, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Jake Wartenberg (talk) 15:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Presidential Initiative for Artificial Intelligence & Computing

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WP:PROMO - I believe not everything in this world deserves a WP page. No WP:LASTING —Saqib (talk | contribs) 19:29, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Rename to identify this as being a Pakistan initiative. — Maile (talk) 02:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Done —Saqib (talk | contribs) 09:34, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Notable initiative initiated by the President of Pakistan. I think it should be kept. Wikibear47 (talk) 13:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree, it' was a cool project but I think we prioritize WP:GNG over WP:ATA. While there is some press coverage, BUT it's not sig/in-depth enough to meet WP:GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 14:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep While I understand the nominator's concerns, this clearly meets the GNG, and sources like [7] from 2021 show that it is still relevant to tech education in Pakistan. The article doesn't seem very promotional to me, and adding some of the criticism from that source I linked would help. This isn't some initiative that was announced and then disappeared – as far as I can tell, it is still operating and has a large number of students (in the thousands). Toadspike [Talk] 10:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have added three sentences of (largely) criticism from that source. I hope that addresses some of the PROMO concerns. Toadspike [Talk] 10:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 03:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mahira Miyanji

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She doesn't appears to meet WP:GNG beause the press coverage she received in WP:RS lacks significance or depth which does not satisfy WP:N. N-Peace Award alone may not confer WP:N —Saqib (talk | contribs) 15:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to Mapúa Malayan Colleges Laguna. Star Mississippi 18:29, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MCL College of Arts and Science

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Subject could be redirected to Mapúa Malayan Colleges Laguna. Sanglahi86 (talk) 09:32, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. I see a consensus to Keep this article, especially after a little clean up has been done by the nominator and discussion participants. Liz Read! Talk! 22:33, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Assumption College, Kilmore

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Cassiopeia talk 22:53, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Subject fails GNG to meet significant coverage from independent, reliable source where by the sources talk about the subject in length and in dept and not passing mentioned or verification.

Most of the sources are primary (assumption college or its founder Marist Brothers). Sources are not from Assumption College or Marist Brothers are the "Notable alumni " section where by - source -1, - source 2 and source-3 only mentioned the alumni members and not mentioned about Assumption college in length or in depth and info are part interview pieces which makes it not independent. source-4 is football club which is not reliable source. source-5 is football organization which is not a reliable source. Section on "Assumption College VCE results 2012-2020" - source -5 is from private company which makes it not reliable. Section on "Sporting achievements" which does not mention Assumption college and the the article is partially interview piece which makes it not independent.

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  • Keep - On the face of it this is a significant sized school and at the older end of all Australian schools. Not the oldest but a venerable institution. It has significant web presence, but like the concerns about sourcing on the page, much of that is not independent. There are three books about the school on the page that are not discussed above. However, one of these is published by the school, and the other two by a Kilmore publisher so independence is questionable. Yet a school that is publishing volumes about its history is still unusual in itself. Add to that very considerable sustained newspaper coverage, including a lot in The Age. The Age is an Australian newspaper of record, and a reliable source. Much of the coverage is primary, but again, 125 years of coverage is certainly not to be sniffed at. Then it gets mentioned in multiple books that are independent. E.g. [8], [9], [10], [11]. Although passing mentions don't help much, there is more significant coverage in some of these, and again, the very fact it gets mentioned so much indicates a level of significance. This looks like a GNG pass to me. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 22:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sirfurboy, This is Wikipedia and an article needs to pass the notability requirements to have a page in Wikipedia and it is NOT about how old and institution it has been operation or the unusual the history of the school. Primary sources can NOT be used to contribute to the notability requirements. Your sources [12], [13] - is a primary source; [14] is about the owners of the school and not about the school and it is just a book cover which does not indicated it cover the school in detail or in length; [15] is about Research Methodology and Research Results in Catholic Schools in Victoria, Australia and not about the school itself and lastly [16] is about Two Centuries of Surgery in Papua New Guinea not about the school itself. As you have mentioned, they are all passing mentioned which do not pass the notability requirements of Wikpedia. Cassiopeia talk 02:56, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It is in my nature to draw attention to the weaknesses of the sources I present at AfD as part of a rounded argument. My drawing attention to the fact that many sources are primary therefore is a demonstration of familiarity with the guidelines, not unfamiliarity. But I note that your nom. statement only discusses the sources in the article (and misses the three books) and does not take into account the huge number of sources shown up in the linked searches (Google/books/news/scholar) and in newspaper archives. Looking at that, and at the detail here, that this is a very large and very old school, with sustained coverage and an actual history book written about it that has been accessioned by the National Library of Australia [17] - which book is already linked on the page, and which tells us it is noted for academic and sporting prowess and was one of the largest country boarding schools in Australia - I personally would not even have considered nominating this article after a WP:BEFORE. It does need cleanup, but AfD is not for that. Very clearly notable. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:00, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your last source is good but not the last 4 including the 3 books where the books are not talking about the subject but part of it, further more, you provide the book name and not the info of the book about the subject. If you can point to the page where we can read the info and verify significant coverage is in place then that is the different story but not because the old established of the subject as the means to pass the notability. To say this, it is unfortunate many colleges/educational institute or in the matter of the fact academics do not have a page in Wikipedia because of only primary sources covered them. Cassiopeia talk 08:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So again, I already highlighted the issue with passing mentions in the 4 books I highlighted (but remember that a book or article does not have to be about the subject to count towards notability). The point was not to say that those themselves were the best sources - the point is that on the face of it, there is not a snowball's chance that a school with this level of attention, coverage and mentions will fail to meet GNG. And I didn't just provide the name of that book, I provided its full bibliographic record at the National Library of Australia, which also includes an ISBN number. Not that this is strictly necessary, because that book is already listed on the page. I don't need to provide a page number - the whole book is a history of the school. I don't have it. It was published in 1976, and I do not think there is an electronic copy. Recall that sources do not need to be on the page, nor do they need to be available electronically to count towards notability. They merely must exist, and this book exists). However the information I was able to ascertain about the book can be seen on this ebay listing: [18] Very handy that they show us the synopsis and the contents pages. And it doesn't stop there. I made the case I did to save the necessity to trawl through 2,481 newspaper articles mentioning the school. But if you were to search Newspapers.com in the Wikipedia library, the very first page of hits would show up this thorough article[19] which would count as reliable (the Age is a reliable paper of record) with independent secondary coverage, a full page spread certainly being significant. There are other papers too that discuss the school [20], but more significantly, articles in The Age about their sporting prowess, this being just one example.[21] This school is notable. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:28, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. I do agree the article in its current state is promotional and relies mostly on primary sources. However, under WP:ARTN, Article content does not determine notability. Notability is a property of a subject and not of a Wikipedia article. If the subject has not been covered outside of Wikipedia, no amount of improvement to the Wikipedia content will suddenly make the subject notable. Conversely, if the source material exists, even very poor writing and referencing within a Wikipedia article will not decrease the subject's notability. On Talk:Assumption College, Kilmore, I've listed four RS (and two more passing mentions from alums that might help balance the tone of the article). The subject meets WP:GNG, even though the article needs an overhaul. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 22:28, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I revised the article substantially to remove the promotional language and reorganize the "team of the century" table but did not have time to add the potential sources listed on the talk page. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 06:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks to User:Sirfurboy for sources added to Talk:Assumption College, Kilmore. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 21:43, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Sources satisfy WP:GNG. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 05:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vistamar School

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advertising. All the sources self-referential, little hope of finding others, no NPOV Melchior2006 (talk) 17:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, non-notable school Traumnovelle (talk) 20:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment - Significant write up on it here. [22] The page is indeed very poor (and tbh, it would be no great loss to just delete it). However there may be more sources, now that the school is approaching 20 years old. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:00, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I revised the article, adding sources (at least 3 meet WP:SIGCOV for WP:GNG). I also listed another ten potential sources on Talk:Vistamar School, as more evidence of notability, keeping in mind that notability attaches to the subject, regardless of the state of the article. (ProQuest sources are available by signing in first to Wikimedia, then to Wikipedia Library Platform.) Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 22:22, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for updating the article. However, there are not 3 articles that count towards GNG. There is the LA Times article I found and then you have two from the Daily Breeze. These count together - multiple articles from a single source count as one towards GNG. I think it is the Daily Breeze articles you meant to count, but just in case, I have looked at all the sources you added, and produced this analysis. I am, however, leaning keep. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 10:38, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep - As per my comment above, We have two sources towards GNG. I consider "multiple" to mean three or more, to allow a thorough article to be written, but on the basis of the two, and particularly because one of them is in teh LA Times, I am leaning keep. Of course, an LA school is local for the LA Times - but the quality and reach of the source makes this a good candidate for notability. I also found other mentions in ProQuest, such as PR Newswire sources [23] but note the primary news reporting nature of many of these. Nevertheless, on the basis of the sources found to date, my feeling is that more are very likely to exist. Now that the article has been expanded a little, there is also a weak WP:HEY for keeping. I would like to see it expanded further, and I would like one more good source, but I don't see deletion as being a net positive in this case. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 10:38, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
Accredditing Commission for Schools [24] Yes ~ Reliable but a primary source No Directory ✘ No
Vistamar School History [25] No No Primary source ~ 404 on link so cannot evaluate ✘ No
LA Times [26] Yes Yes The source is a major newspaper Yes The article focuses on the school founding as a concept ✔ Yes
Daily Breeze [27] AND Daily Breeze (second occurence - multiple articles from the same source count as one towards GNG) [28] Yes Local papers (see below) often publish press releases with little alteration, and as such the independence is questionable. In the first case the author is given as Shelly Leachman. [29] A communications officer since 2012, we are old She previously worked more than a decade as a journalist for news outlets across California, covering primarily education[30]. This piece has her byline, and as such it is unlikely it is just a press release. Indeed she seems to have interviewed students for this piece.
In the second case the author is credited as Ian Hanigan. Researching the author, I find Ian Hanigan serves as chief communications officer for the Orange County Department of Education, overseeing the Communications and Media Services unit.[31] However he was the Daily Breeze educational journalist until 2006 by the same source. This piece is dated 2005, so it appears he write the piece himself - it has his byline and this was his beat. 		Yes Daily Breeze is a local paper with 57,000 circulation, slogan "LAX to LA harbour". This is local coverage only, but still reliable and secondary. Yes With local sources, the question is whether there is sufficient information to write an article in the source. This criterion is often not well considered, but these articles appear to give the basis for some article. The problem with my analysis is that I don't have Proquest institutional access to these full records and they are not available in newspapers online, so I cannot fully assess whether these are in sufficient depth to meet this criterion. However we have two articles, three years apart, and looking at different aspects, so taken together, I am giving a cautious yes here. ✔ Yes
NCS directory [32] Yes ~ The source is reliable but this is a primary source No Directory only ✘ No
Niche [33] Yes I am not sure how Niche select schools for listing but will give it a pass on this as it fails on other measures ~ A directory is a type of primary source, and it is not clear how the information is collated. Some is clearly taken from the school's own materials, again primary No Directory listing, and substantial information is copied from the school and is not created by Niche. ✘ No
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  • Comment: Sirfurboy, Thanks for providing your analysis in the above table. It's very useful, and I know it's a significant amount of work. Were you able to access the ProQuest sources, yet, that I listed on the talk page? Also, non-local sources are not required for WP:GNG, only for WP:NORG. The latter specifically exempts non-profit educational institutions like Vistamar School: The scope of this guideline covers all groups of people organized together for a purpose with the exception of non-profit educational institutions, religions or sects, and sports teams. I point this out because sometimes editors equate the term private with the term for profit, concluding erroneously that all private schools must meet NORG. Again, thanks for the care and thoroughness of your analysis. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 22:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The refs are primary, routine opening press releases etc., and databases. Even the LA Times is covering the opening and doesn't wash for GNG. Desertarun (talk) 14:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • weak keep: Source analysis table is a help. This isn't a strong keep, but we have just enough I think. Some PROMO concerns with the wording used, but that can easily be fixed. Oaktree b (talk) 14:17, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - A couple years ago we would not be wasting volunteer time and energy on this debate. The SNG for schools: (a) is it 9-12? (b) does it exist? QED. Carrite (talk) 02:42, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - >>"Even the LA Times is covering the opening and doesn't wash for GNG." — This is wholly incorrect. Carrite (talk) 02:49, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Passes GNG (as do all American high schools bigger than a breadbox). THIS is LA Times 1/21/2007, p. 200 ("The School as Brainchild"). Carrite (talk) 03:03, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 16:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brenda Jean Patrick

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(Renomination: the discussion from 2010 closed as "no consensus.") I don't believe that Brenda Jean Patrick fulfills the notability requirements for inclusion in Wikipedia. She is (was? I think I found an obituary) an educational consultant who touted the idea of "customer care" in school districts. Most of the information I can find about her consultant work is in the form of press releases in local papers when she held workshops for a district. I don't see independent coverage outside of her PR. Joyous! Noise! 17:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of schools in Jordan. Liz Read! Talk! 05:48, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scientific Reyada School

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WP:UNSOURCED school with no good place to redirect. A quick search reveals nothing more. Allan Nonymous (talk) 14:00, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect to List of schools in Jordan where it is listed. It is not notable for a page, which is the bottom line. If there were a more focussed redirect target I would suggest that but it gets no mention on the Amman page, for instance. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:11, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 03:31, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Junior School

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PROD countered. Per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, articles about primary schools are only kept if they can be shown to meet WP:NORG. That is not the case here. Indeed, this is an article about a kindergarten. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Schools, Kenya, and United Kingdom. Skynxnex (talk) 03:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep It is also a story about a UK-based charity. I added a few references. Hopefully just enough to save this story.Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 04:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Ruud Buitelaar.Tamsier (talk) 03:06, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - although happy to consider a suitable redirect. I'm sorry but there is just not enough information about this school, as is the case of the vast majority of junior schools. Yes, this one is a charitable venture. Lots of them are. There are now four sources on the page. I analyse these below (with the first SHOFCO source being the only one that was there prior to AfD). On my analysis we do not have anything that meets WP:SIRS. There is almost nothing we can actually say about this school in an article. Source analysis:
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Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Secondary? Overall value toward ORGCRIT
SHOFCO [37] Yes SHOFCO is Shining Hope for Communities, US based, I think it is a charity, and with a focus on Kibera. Yes SHOFCO appears legitimate. I have not investigated too hard on that score because this source fails on SIGCOV No The link is dead, but it is dated April 2009, and archive.org has a copy of the article [38]. There is no mention of this school at all in the article. As there is no mention of the school, this is moot.
Charity Commission [39] Yes Yes No An overview of the charity, Maisha Tust. Nothing about th school. The charity is small too. No This is a primary source.
Optima [40] Yes Yes Fitzwilliam College Newsletter with news of an alumna, the school's founder. No There is a single paragraph telling us that Sarah Shucksmith, a former Geography student, founded this school in her gap year, and they are building a new school building. It's creditable, but it's not notable. – It is reporting and this is primary per WP:PRIMARYNEWS. However, as I know people will want to claim otherwise, and SIGCOV is not met anyway, I'll leave that as undetermined. It does not change anything.
Rus Newton [41] No This is a WP:SPS - a blog is a self published source – I have no reason to say the writer is unreliable, but this is still self published. Yes To be honest, this would be well short of CORPDEPTH, but I would give ground to this being a charitable work, not a corporation. There is a little information here from which a page could be written, but it really isn't much. A lot more is needed, but I'll give it a yes on this one. Yes y

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Delete per above. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 04:23, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hubert H. Humphrey Fellowship

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Fails WP:GNG —Saqib (talk | contribs) 15:07, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep and improve - This is an exchange program through the US State Department. Granted, the article needs work, and needs better sourcing. But this is a very impressive program. It would be a shame to write this off. — Maile (talk) 15:43, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added some valuable links to YouTube info created by the Fellowship program. — Maile (talk) 21:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm currently working on whe wording and sourcing. — Maile (talk) 23:38, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note - Do Not Delete - Work in Progress: This was inadvertently and prematurely deleted yesterday for copyright errors. I am currently reworking this article in my personal user space, to avoid misunderstandings over sourcing, etc. This is an important article that needs work. Please have patience, and I'll get the article in better shape. — Maile (talk) 12:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am surprised to see you say that I "inadvertently and prematurely deleted" copyright content from Wikipedia. There's no such thing as "prematurely" removing copyright content from Wikipedia. We can't host copyright content on Wikipedia, not even temporarily for editing. And we can't include it in sandboxes or drafts either. — Diannaa (talk) 13:44, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, I just did an edit update of this article. The lead is now more informative about how this program originated, complete with sources. And I've done a sample list of US and foreign universities which act as hosts. — Maile (talk) 23:37, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I just went through and reviewed the edits made by Maile. Not a single source supports notability under WP:GNG or WP:ORGCRIT. All sources are primary sources (e.g. the authorizing legislation), or they are not independent (State Department webpages or the webpages of Humphrey Fellowship sponsoring institutions), or the coverage is trivial (single references to someone in the article being a Humphrey Fellow). The MPR News source fails verification. My BEFORE search turns up nothing else useful for establishing notability. (One potential source is here, but it is published by a Humphrey Fellowship sponsor institution and I don't have access to the actual text to validate whether it is independent.) Failing the unearthing of significant coverage in multiple, independent, secondary sources, this doesn't clear the bar. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:11, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: This feels like PROMO for a US gov't program... Sourcing is solely to universities around the world, or the US gov't. I tried a Gscholar search, but anything not published by the US gov't is very hard to find. One mention of funding in a medical study, but I don't see any critical discussion of the program. I'm amazed it's been around for 40 yrs or so and there is no analysis of this fellowship. Oaktree b (talk) 19:45, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This [42] but it's on the ed.gov web domain, I'm not sure if it's independent of the gov't or not. This [43] in a Malaysian journal... Jstor has nothing, using the Wikipedia Library link only brings up the case study listed in my first link. There just doesn't seem to be anything about this. Oaktree b (talk) 19:47, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment In reviewing additional feedback, I continue to find the rationales for keep insufficiently policy-based ("this is an impressive program," "the subject is notable enough"), while the sources (both in the article and beyond) simply don't support notability according to policy. The sources added by one of the editors arguing for keep are primary or trivial, and the Youtube links are promotional. I encourage the closer to review the sources! Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:35, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom., Dclemens1971, and Oaktree b. Fails WP:GNG. Sal2100 (talk) 15:59, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete doesnt satisfy WP:GNG MaskedSinger (talk) 05:22, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Westview Secondary School

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Nominated for deletion as this article entirely lacks WP:Sources and doesn't meet WP:Notability neither WP:GNG

I wondered why it is retained on Wikipedia from 2006 till this moment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by War Term (talk • contribs) 02:28, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sekolah Kebangsaan Bukit Tinggi, Kedah

Sekolah Kebangsaan Bukit Tinggi, Kedah (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Semi-advertorialized article about a primary school, not properly sourced as passing notability criteria for schools. As always, schools (especially at the primary level) are not "inherently" notable just for existing, and have to be shown to pass WP:GNG on reliable source coverage about them in media or books -- but this is "referenced" entirely to the school's own self-published website about itself, which is not support for notability, and is written in a tone that resembles the school writing about itself ("in the center, you'll find an open book and a scroll, representing the thirst for knowledge and the quest to uncover it") rather than objective third-party analysis. Bearcat (talk) 15:22, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

English Language School, Dubai

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I have carried out WP:BEFORE for this article about a school in Dubai, and cannot find references to add. The only existing reference in the article is to the school's website. The school's names make it difficult to search for, but if there is WP:SIGCOV it ought to be findable. I don't think it meets WP:GNG, WP:NCORP or WP:NSCHOOL. Tacyarg (talk) 15:16, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bukit Jalil National Secondary School

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Non notable school fails to satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations see WP:NSCHOOL. Existing sources show passing mentions only and a before comes up with nothing of note. Theroadislong (talk) 17:17, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is a Malaysian article, you don't search Bukit Jalil National Secondary School which is the non-native name and expect to find a lot of things. As per the Wikipedia article, the school is commonly referred to as 'SMK Bukit Jalil' and 'Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan Bukit Jalil.' Here are the materials/citations that I've not put and put some are in Malay and some are not. In the mean time the article has been moved to draft.
  1. https://www.mymrt.com.my/ms/info-truck-year/2018-ms/page/3/?post_type=mrt-info-truck
  2. https://bjalil.pimaxis.my/pendidikan.html
  3. https://www.limkokwing.net/cambodia/news/article/smk_bukit_jalil_students_visit_limkokwing_university
  4. https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news/2024/03/31/freak-thunderstorm-wreaks-havoc-in-government-housing-schemes-in-kl
  5. https://www.thestar.com.my/news/community/2006/10/27/latecomer-still-shines-in-handball
  6. https://unclekentang.com/blog/2020/03/11/taklimat-cpr-kepada-350-badan-unit-beruniform-smk-bukit-jalil/
  7. http://kmz.com.my/?page_id=417
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Comment You have clearly misunderstood what we mean by significant coverage, all of the above are passing mentions only. Theroadislong (talk) 18:08, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, no sign of notability of any flavour. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:20, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom; notability nowhere near established. Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom; searching for further coverage under the "commonly referred to" names referenced in the first comment here doesn't dredge up anything supporting notability either. Chiselinccc (talk) 06:21, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A.P.J.M. Matriculation Higher Secondary School

A.P.J.M. Matriculation Higher Secondary School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Delete Fails to meet WP:NSCHOOL. Can be mentioned as an educational institution in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanyakumari_district Wikilover3509 (talk) 14:28, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Prabodhan Vidyalaya School

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Zero coverage in independent sources,fails WP:NSCHOOLRatnahastin (talk) 02:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Narayandas Laddha High School

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I cant find any mention of this school in reliable secondary sources, fails notability requirements for school (WP:NSCHOOL). Ratnahastin (talk) 02:08, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • The Narayandas Laddha High School article does not provide enough reliable sources to demonstrate the school's notability according to Wikipedia's guidelines. Furthermore, the article lacks detailed, verifiable information and appears insufficiently comprehensive to warrant inclusion in an encyclopedia.--Welcome to Pandora (talk) 08:26, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nkawkaw Senior High School

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Nothing much to be notable. While I agree with WP:NSCHOOLS, "secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist, and are still subject both to the standards of notability, as well as those for organizations." I can't find any WP:GNG or WP:ORGCRITE for a simple article. WP:SIRS already was not enough except for the schools 50th anniversary. A redirect can be kept though at List of schools in Ghana#N. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep This may not be the most influential school in all of Ghana, but it meets the GNG and WP:NORG. See source analysis below. Bgv. (talk) 08:57, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Babegriev, I still guess why this and this should be called WP:SIGCOV or attribution for WP:GNG. Per WP:NHSCHOOL, these are type of sources used to clarify a school exist just not about notability. It was a passing mention of "breaking a teacher's windscreen or thereabout" in this source, and here about a set/class that did something for the school (which is no way notability). It's very hard to see this things and say a school lacks notability, that's why even the SNG guideline says "all school are assumed to be notable". You can also see WP:SCHOOLOUTCOME. Thanks. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 09:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://www.ghanaiantimes.com.gh/nkawkaw-shs-celebrates-50th-anniversary/ Yes No association with subject known Yes Meets WP:NEWSORG Yes School is the subject of the article ✔ Yes
https://newsghana.com.gh/nkawkaw-shs-lacks-logistics/ Yes No association with subject known ~ Appears to meet WP:NEWSORG Yes Critical article about the school and its administration ~ Partial
https://www.modernghana.com/news/1119989/solution-to-west-african-senior-school-certificate.html Yes No association with subject known Yes Meets WP:NEWSORG Yes Speaks to the school's involvement with a state examination controversy. ✔ Yes
https://www.modernghana.com/news/817913/nkawkaw-senior-high-school-receives-support-from-1992-year-g.html Yes No association with subject Yes Meets WP:NEWSORG Yes Coverage of alumna's philanthropy to school. ✔ Yes
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G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College

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Fails GNG and NORG. Sources in article and found in BEFORE are listings, primary, name mentions, routine mill news, nothing that meets WP:SIRS, addressing the subject directly and indepth  // Timothy :: talk  02:12, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Schools, which says:

    All universities, colleges and schools, including high schools, middle schools, primary (elementary) schools, and schools that only provide a support to mainstream education must either satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations, the general notability guideline, or both. For-profit educational organizations and institutions are considered commercial organizations and must satisfy those criteria. (See also WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES)

    Sources
    1. Lam, Yim-hung 林艷虹 (2022-11-24). "優才（楊殷有娣）書院 特色課程培育多元人才" [G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College's special courses cultivate diverse talents]. Hong Kong Economic Journal (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.

      The article notes: "優才（楊殷有娣）書院（下稱優才）為直資一條龍學校，小學初小部（小一至小三）位於旺角校舍，高小部（小四至小六）及中學部（中一至中六）則設於將軍澳校舍。 ... 值得一提的是，優才以推動資優教育見稱，校名英文縮寫G.T.，G代表Gifted，即與生俱來的天賦；T是Talent，表示每一個小朋友都有獨特才華，因此提供多元特色課程來培育孩子。"

      From Google Translate: "G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College (hereinafter referred to as G.T.) is a one-stop school under the Direct Subsidy Scheme. The lower primary section (Primary 1 to Primary 3) is located in the Mong Kok campus, the upper primary section (Primary 4 to Primary 6) and the secondary section (Secondary 1 to 6 ) is located at the Tseung Kwan O campus. ... It is worth mentioning that Youcai is well-known for promoting gifted education. The English abbreviation of the school name is G.T., G stands for Gifted, which is innate talent; T stands for Talent, which means that every child has unique talents, so it provides diverse Special courses to nurture children."

    2. Hui, Lok-hang 許珞珩; Cheung, Wai-ting 張瑋婷 (2022-10-24). "升小備戰｜直資優才(楊殷有娣)書院小學部　5層架構推動資優教育" [Preparing for primary school entrance｜Directly gifted G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College 5-tier structure promotes gifted education] (in Chinese). HK01. Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.

      The article notes: "優才（楊殷有娣）書院小學部共有兩個校舍，小一至小三的初小部校舍位於旺角洗衣街，高小與中學部則共用將軍澳調景嶺嶺光街校舍。學校由天才教育協會會長李業富教授於1996年創辦，多年來均實行小班教學及分組學習形式，老師會按學生的能力及長處分成小組，每班6組、每組約4人，不同科目也採用此形式上課。"

      From Google Translate: "The primary school of G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College has two school buildings. The junior school building for primary one to primary three is located on Sai Yee Street, Mong Kok. The upper primary school and the secondary school share the Ling Kwong Street school building, Tiu Keng Leng, Tseung Kwan O. The school was founded in 1996 by Professor Li Yipfu, President of the Gifted Education Association. For many years, it has implemented small class teaching and group learning. Teachers will divide students into groups according to their abilities and strengths. Each class has 6 groups with about 4 people in each group. Different subjects are also included in the school. Take this class."

    3. Hui, Melody (2023-05-09). "優才小學5.13開始報名 校長分享3大面試貼士 小朋友有一個特質最重要" [G.T. Primary School starts registration on May 13. The principal shares 3 interview tips. There is one trait that is most important for children.]. Sunday Kiss (in Chinese). New Media Group [zh]. Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.

      The article notes: "直資一條龍小學優才（楊殷有娣）書院小學部每年吸引超過3,000人報讀小一，學校推行獨特的教學模式，及深受家長喜歡小班教學，以每級5班、每班不超過26人，每年提供約130個小一學位，平均27人爭1學位，競爭非常激烈。本周六（13日）為2024／25年度小一報名日期，陳偉傑校長回覆記者查詢時，分享學校的教學特式、面試貼士及模式。優才最吸引家長的其中一個原因是一條龍學校，逾九成學生直升中一，而中學部同時開辦中學文憑試（DSE）及國際預科文憑（IB）雙軌課程，小學學生在無需面對升中選校的壓力下，可充分享受校園學習生活。"

      From Google Translate: "The primary section of the DSS one-stop primary school Youcai (Yang Yin Youdi) College attracts more than 3,000 students to apply for primary one every year. The school implements a unique teaching model and is well received by parents for its small class teaching. There are 5 classes per level and no more than 26 students per class. There are about 130 primary one places available every year, and an average of 27 people compete for one place. The competition is very fierce. This Saturday (13th) is the registration date for Primary One students in 2024/25. When responding to reporters’ inquiries, Principal Chen Weijie shared the school’s teaching style, interview tips and models. One of the reasons why Youcai is most attractive to parents is that it is a one-stop school, with more than 90% of students going directly to Form 1. The secondary school also offers dual-track courses of Diploma of Secondary Education (DSE) and International Baccalaureate Diploma (IB), so primary school students do not have to face Under the pressure of choosing a school for high school, you can fully enjoy campus study life."

    4. Chan, Yik-chiu 陳奕釗. "香港學校｜優才(楊殷有娣)書院壓縮正統課程 特色教學培育優秀學生" [Hong Kong School｜G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College compresses the orthodox curriculum and cultivates outstanding students with unique teaching]. am730 (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.

      The article notes: "優才(楊殷有娣)書院特別注重兩文三語、語文能力及溝通技巧。學校不單實行普教中，更讓學生學習法文、韓文、日文、意大利文及西班牙文等第三語言。... 成績方面，學校前年出了3位IB狀元，在全球3,500所IB高中學校中名列第11，香港則排名第3。2023年該校學生IB成績亦不俗：有一個45分狀元、兩個44分榜眼。而本屆69位畢業生中，該校有86%同學在Jupas獲得好成績，能入讀心儀大學及課程，"

      From Google Translate: "G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College pays special attention to biliteracy, trilingualism, language proficiency and communication skills. The school not only provides general education, but also allows students to learn third languages ​​such as French, Korean, Japanese, Italian and Spanish. ... In terms of results, the school produced three IB top scorers the year before last, ranking 11th among 3,500 IB high schools in the world, and Hong Kong ranked third. The IB results of the school's students in 2023 are also good: there is one top scorer with a score of 45, two top scorers Second place with 44 points. Among the 69 graduates this year, 86% of the school’s students obtained good results in Jupas and were able to enter the university and course of their choice."

    5. "Direct Subsidy Scheme Schools". South China Morning Post. 2009-06-13. Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.

      The article notes: "Founded in 1997 as a private school and turned DSS in 2002. Merged with Chi Kit School in 2004. Multiple intelligence approach emphasising creativity, self-esteem and social responsibility. Class size: Primary 24; Secondary 24-26. School-based and activity-based curriculum. Over 50 talent classes, run by part-time tutors in small groups, offered twice a week as part of the curriculum. Regular visits to museums and other places of interest. Enhancement for gifted children. Secondary curriculum will lead to HKCEE, HKALE, and other public benchmark tests, IB Diploma may be offered in 2009. Medium of instruction: Primary: Cantonese, with English taught by native speakers. Secondary: English, except Chinese and Chinese history."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College (traditional Chinese: 優才（楊殷有娣）書院; simplified Chinese: 优才（杨殷有娣）书院)) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 08:30, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reply, promo, interviews, all obviously based on the same info/source, nothing above show WP:SIRS or notability, they just show marketing at work. Nothing wrong with promotion, but it doesn't equal notability.  // Timothy :: talk  12:29, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per Cunard's sources. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:18, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: A very decent search of sources by Cunard. I personally have some doubts on the reliability of Sundaykiss (as well as all outlets of New Media Group [zh]), but the other sources from Hong Kong Economic Journal, HK01, am730, and South China Morning Post are fine and all demonstrated notability of the school. I disagree with Timothy's claims that the sources are based on the same information and are simply for promotional purposes. For instance, the SCMP source was published in 2009, the HKEJ source was published in 2022, while the am730 source was published in 2024, so these sources are very unlikely to be based on the same source of information or sharing the same source materials. Besides, the sources are also obviously covering different topics. For instance, the SCMP source was discussing the schools of the Direct Subsidy Scheme, an educational policy in Hong Kong. The HKEJ source is about gifted education in the school. The am730 source is about the curriculum and academic results of the school in recent years. I think these few sources are quite neutral, at least hardly be considered as advertising the school or whatsoever, and obviously covering different aspects of the school. Moreover, the sources provided by Cunard are also only the tip of an iceberg, as there are in fact a lot more older sources. (For instance, a Sing Tao Daily article in 2015 about the school's public examination results[44], a TOPick article in 2018 about the school's reform policies on examinations[45], a Sky Post article in 2018 about the school's extra-curricular activities[46], a HK01 article in 2019 about the school's application and interview details[47], a Tai Kung Pao article in 2019 about the school being the first three schools to introduce the Citizenship and Social Development subject[48], etc.) Therefore, I agree that this article has well passed GNG and fulfilled the requirement of WP:NSCHOOL. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 14:02, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hoërskool Noordheuwel

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Previously deleted at AfD in October 2023; insufficient improvement in sourcing to meet N:SCHOOL. Sources are to hyperlocal news sources that read like user-submitted or sponsored copy ("Die kersie op die koek: Hoërskool Noordheuwel is die TOP AKADEMIESE SKOOL in Gauteng-Wes en bekleë ook die nr 5 posisie in Gauteng waarop ons baie trots is"... "The icing on the cake: Noordheuwel High School is the TOP ACADEMIC SCHOOL in Gauteng West and also holds the No. 5 position in Gauteng, which we are very proud of.") or a news site comprising regional high school sport news, not clearing the bar for NORG or GNG. A BEFORE search turns up no significant coverage in independent sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:56, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Universities and colleges

Walton School of Auctioneering

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This is just a bare ad for a non-notable school listing its curriculum that's been inserted into Auction school as a form of advertising. lizthegrey (talk) 04:24, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hazari Gonj Hamidia Fazil Madrasah

Hazari Gonj Hamidia Fazil Madrasah (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Sources do not demonstrate notability. Nothing indicates that this high school is notable in the article. Vinegarymass911 (talk) 17:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mangrove Institute of Science and Technology

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Delete Fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:NSschool. Most of the references are from the institute’s website. The other link https://theorg.com/org/mangrove-institute-of-science-and-technology is from an internet directory. Wikilover3509 (talk) 05:08, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Washington International Diplomatic Academy

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Sources provided are primary and/or non-independent. A search does not uncover any further SIGCOV in independent sources. Organisation seems unlikely to meet WP:GNG or WP:NORG. Triptothecottage (talk) 22:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Benazir Bhutto Shaheed University of Technology and Skill Development

Benazir Bhutto Shaheed University of Technology and Skill Development (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lacks sig/in-depth coverage so, fails WP:GNG. I don't see it passing WP:ORG either. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment: Does any law from the government or state say it's a public university? Charlie (talk) 04:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Other school or university articles

School District 42 Maple Ridge-Pitt Meadows

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This article is nominated for deletion as it doesn't meet WP:V, WP:N and not WP:S talk more of WP:RS — Preceding unsigned comment added by War Term (talk • contribs) 03:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of leaders of UNSW student organisations

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Fails WP:NLIST, WP:NOTDATABASE, WP:GNG. 5225C (talk • contributions) 08:35, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ayatollah Khamenei's letter to students at U.S. universities

Ayatollah Khamenei's letter to students at U.S. universities (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not need to be a separate article and not notable. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, but article requires significant improvement.
Coverage that is at least potentially RS (not necessarily complete) which is not currently included in the article:
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    Also notice this one please. --Mhhossein talk 13:37, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Such interactions by the head of state of a theocracy to a significant section of Western society is quite rare. As a comment it would be nice to have this in Wikisource if applicable. Borgenland (talk) 17:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UWSP Albertson Center for Learning Resources

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Not written in an encyclopedic format and fails WP:GNG - all of the sources are primary. If kept, needs significant cleanup. Some of this information may be able to be merged elsewhere, but I'm not sure where. SportingFlyer T·C 19:20, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cardiff School of Engineering

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No evidence school is particularly notable outside notability of university DeputyBeagle (talk) 12:06, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Otago NORML

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Most of the sources are either regional publication (mainly the Otago Daily Times), university newspapers (Critic Te Arohi) and primary-sourced YouTube video. I only see two national sources. The first I can't access, and the second is a mention of a cannabis museum but does not go into detail. ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I'd give the ODT more credit than being a regional publication; it's the major newspaper covering Otago. Yes, that is a region, but you could also argue the same for The Press in Christchurch, and I would also disagree with that thinking. The sustained ODT coverage brings this over the general notability line for me. Schwede66 07:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as the ODT and One News coverage clearly establishes notability imo. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 08:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep While there are not 'more' sources available, but the existing ones establish the subject's notability. For example, the Critic here, establish GNG. Others include Otago Times here among others. --Tumbuka Arch (talk) 08:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think Critic Te Ārohi established notability as it is a student newspaper of Otago University. ―Panamitsu (talk) 09:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:RSSM applies here: given their local audience and lack of independence from their student body, student media does not contribute to notability for topics related to home institutions — HTGS (talk) 10:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep, agreed with comments above. ODT establishes notability. Student newspapers are prone to inaccuracy and errors but I suppose they might be used in this context. Alexeyevitch(talk) 09:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete (or redirect to NORML New Zealand) as lacking significant non-trivial coverage. I don’t think the ODT is an unreliable source, nor do I think regional papers should be looked down on (technically all of NZ’s printed newspapers are regional), but most of the “coverage” in the article is very sparse, and neither the ODT nor the One News sources represent non-trivial coverage of the org itself, so much as coverage of various events and people where the org was mentioned (per WP:SIGCOV example on Clinton’s high school band). I have the impression the org is currently defunct or inactive. Thanks Panamitsu, I have been meaning to nominate this article for a while. — HTGS (talk) 10:10, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. None of the discussion of Otago Daily Times is relevant; WP:BRANCH is extremely clear that "the individual chapters of national and international organizations are usually not considered notable enough to warrant a separate article – unless they are substantially discussed by reliable independent sources that extend beyond the chapter's local area." Every source in this article, and every source I could find in a BEFORE search, is either local to the Dunedin area or to the university itself. (The only non-local source is really about Abe Gray and a museum, not sigcov of Otago NORML.) I would encourage other editors and participants here to engage with the WP:BRANCH criteria here, since WP:ORGCRIT establishes a higher standard than WP:GNG for organizations. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/Merge per above Traumnovelle (talk) 04:35, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Master of Science in Global Finance

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This appears to be one program for one university that does not seem to be notable in itself. Sargdub (talk) 00:25, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not only is it unsourced, a quick google search reveals it isn't exclusive to one or two university. 104.7.152.180 (talk) 03:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: To be honest, I think this can be considered a G11 case, as it seems like a pure advertisement of HKUST and NYU on their dual degree program. Just like what the IP user above said, a simple Google search can tell this program title is not exclusive to these two universities. Regardless, I found no sources which covered this program, not even some passing mentions in articles merely by the program's name. Undoubtedly fails GNG. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 13:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mathematics education in New York

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Almost entirely unsourced and out-of-date. Insufficiently distinct from Mathematics education in the United States. Possibly could be redirected to New York Regents Examinations. Walsh90210 (talk) 02:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Microlecture

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A hat-rack article with no clear topic. Primarily a list of citations, rather than actual content. Walsh90210 (talk) 03:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bago University Students' Union

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I have performed WP:BEFORE and searched for in-depth coverage from independent reliable sources. However, I found only these:

These sources are just passing mentions. The subject fails to meet WP:GNG. The majority of sources that are cited are about the protest and arrest, where other people and this union's members were arrested. Does this establish notability? Please ping me if you find any in-depth coverage of the subject. GrabUp - Talk 10:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cardus Education Survey Canada

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Came across the article on the Christian think tank Cardus today, which appears to be the result of WP:UPE. I stubified that rather than nominate it for deletion because it looks like there's enough out there for WP:ORG. But that led me to this, a long article on one of Cardus's reports, again with no good independent sourcing at all (but a whole lot of text). Wouldn't be surprised if this were UPE too. In any event, if there's a little bit of coverage it can be summarized in the main article. WP:GNG fail here. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:22, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Robert Gordon University – Garthdee campus

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This whole page reads like an overly detailed promotional pamphlet for the Robert Gordon University, and the main Robert Gordon University article has most, if not all, of the useful information from this article in its Garthdee campus section UltrasonicMadness (talk) 19:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Erasmus Student Network Armenia

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Local branch of Erasmus Student Network, no independent notability. Broc (talk) 08:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep- Working on expanding the article. ESN Armenia is quite active and one of the more notable student organizations within the country. English publications may be limited as most of the content referencing the org is in Armenian. Will continue to expand with refs. Any help is appreciated :) Archives908 (talk) 15:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge into a subsection of Erasmus Student Network. I do not think it is bad that the information is out there if verifiable and noteworthy enough to mention specifically, though ESN Armenia is hardly notorious enough to warrant their own WP article, considering that there are 44 national, and even more regional ESN network organisations. Note also that Erasmus Student Network Yerevan has also been created, and would merit the same treatment. --Konanen (talk) 18:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Adventist schools in the Philippines

List of Adventist schools in the Philippines (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Contested prod. Prod reason states "This list is made up of mostly schools that are not notable and also there are no references it has been like this from day one that it was created". As I am conducting a procedural AfD, I am neutral on the matter. --Lenticel (talk) 02:21, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to List of Adventist universities in the Philippines. As far as sourcing goes, I wouldn't know what is available in reliability, but I figured reducing the list to be just the colleges and universities would be more suitable to WP:LISTN. Conyo14 (talk) 04:14, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the majority of Seventh-day Adventist schools in the Philippines are not notable and never will be. And we do not need a separate list for Seventh-day Adventist colleges and universities in the Philippines, that is why we have List of Seventh-day Adventist colleges and universities. Catfurball (talk) 16:14, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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